Growing up in Eritrea we always dreamed to see our Eritrean rides in Tour De France. Today, Binyam Girmay gave us bigger than what we always dreamed... He gave us Victory!! Thank You Bini!!
You should see cycling in Eritrea. It's massive. There is lots of talent waiting for a chance. The boss of Intermarche said as much in a quite impassioned speech about how there's so much Eritrean and African talent with great engines but with little opportunities
He was born in Africa but his is not black African by the way he is English born in Africa as nationality he was racing for England representing his country so don’t consider him as African …
I think JB means by saying “African” racing for Africa. African country flag next to name. I don’t think his skin color has anything to do with it. It certainly was a good performance. BRAVO, crushed it.
Great coverage and commentary as usual. And btw for Johann the amazing uber linguist .. it is a 'historic day' rather than a 'historical day' as Biniam Girmay 'made' history. ;)
Johan you mentioned on this episode that you thought this was EF’s first Yellow Jersey, but in 2020 Sergio Higuita won it and wore it until another rider very disgracefully took his front wheel out and he got back on but few kms down the road had to drop out. It was a nasty crash. His head bounced off the pavement.
EF Education-EasyPost Richard Carapaz celebrated his gold medal with Wout Van Aert (silver) and Tadej Pogacar (bronze). It´s not a coincidence that he´s 1 today.
Indeed. Especially Lance often turns conversation out of the Tour, even out of cycling that often has no relevant connection with why we're here on The move.
I thought the 5KM is better than 3KM. because all the GC team are gone from the front. The crash happens 2.5km, but at least we don't get a GC guy leaving the race. For me that a good thing. And the crash doesn't take down the entire peloton or a carnage. So I think that's better IMO. I read somewhere that UCI said that they are testing the 5KM on the TDF, so I'm assuming on all the sprint stages. As far as VL car, I think it's about level playing the field. How's that fair with other small team? They got all the data real time to the team, while Arkea didn't have an advantage for that. Cooking is one thing, but this is not about that. It's about the live race data on the riders, wind etc. That's not good. That's what I call, and "unfair advantage."
I think that if bikes and roads where availble to africans---or even african americans---that were easily accessible then we would see black pogacr's left and right
Africa and inner-city black America are widely impoverished. There is wealth and there is middle class segments of these populations but there’s tons of poverty. I’ve seen it with my own eyes
@@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc so have I, I grew up in those areas and I can tell you from experience African Americans have bikes, although they’re usually not theirs.
to the yahoos who don't understand a multi stage race and are groaning over the headline This is JB2 where the talk is about the race, and stage's which are a single part of the whole. The same reason Girmay is king.... for today. Tadej is on tape after stage 2 asking Remco if he got yellow. Tadej wanted to give it up yesterday. That Tadej gave it up today is BIG news for the strategy of the race - not just a single stage - ba-du-bump!
I think the title was influenced by The Move's title which came out just before. I mean are you more or less likely to watch 2 30 minute videos on the same channel if they have the same title.
Mário Cipollini !! What's the point of these stages (more than 210 km and flat ),but if is windy nobody will go to the breakaway because they know they 'll be caught and won't be allowed to take more than 3,4 minutes, the effort is greater than the possible reward!! For the broadcast in TV the stage is without fights, not points of interest, etc . A stage with 140 ,150 km with a few climbs ,up and downs all day long is a spectacle that makes people stay in front of the TV, tablet,cell phone, etc .
Cheating has a long tradition at the grand tours, riders even hid behind bushes during the race so they could wear the black shirt that belonged to the last rider in the peloton, not to mention doping and other crap. Only the naive think that cheating is no longer possible today, in some way cheating enforce competition and progress, but it's killing the spirit of the sports. What Visma can do with its van, if it is equipped with AI technology, is to collect and analyze data from the race broadcast and from other sources directly from the race field. If in addition, they include historical data in the analysis, it is practically possible to instantly predict the course of the race with a very high probability, over 90%, with AI models. No sports director has the capacity and efficiency to compete with AI models that use quality data sets for processing, so it is logical that teams will prioritize AI in terms of tactical directions. No sports director will object to the AI if he wants to keep his seat in the escort car! Regardless of the complexity of the data analysis process, the results in the form of guidance for the cyclist can be very simple. So that the transmission of the tactical conclusions that the AI model will reach in a second when changes occur in the race, from the "AI van-center" to the sports director and from the spot director to the rider, can take place in a few sentences. The cyclist does not need much guidance, just like in a car, the sports director increases and decreases the speed by pressing the pedal, he can also tell the rider to attack, wait... or use codes a,b,c...or smoke signals on mountaintops With AI the game is over and the big wave of AI is coming so fast that when it hits us the only thing left to do will be to unplug from the power grid to not watch the massacre. It doesn't matter where AI it's located, whether in a van or in the Netherlands, as long as you have access to the source of information (with the advancement of technology, teams will no longer need a van). It is impossible to completely limit the transfer of data to the rider and to the sports director from the AI centers, so the key in the future will be to completely cut off radio communication with the rider in direction from the sports director to the rider. Paradoxically, the race for those of us who follow the race through the TV screens would become more interesting with the use of AI technology with more data at disposal, but the cyclists would be managed by AI like racing horses without any autonomy, and we would have fun watching.
Love the podcast, but at some point both Johan and Lance are going to have let go of their undying hatred for Jonathan Vaugthers. It's 2024. Let it go, FFS. It's toxic.
JB1 I think this 5km is just BS, when the ASO lays out the course 🤷♂️ they say "if there's a situation" WTF they make the finish. Stop making dangerous finishes. It's that simple. I think Adam Hansan needs to be much more of a big mouth about the dangerous courses that they put together 😥🤞🙏
@@natus99u cant be serious..in years to come nobody is gonna talk about the stage sayin pogi lost the yellow but rather the monumenetal victory for girmay...stop being a troll
Growing up in Eritrea we always dreamed to see our Eritrean rides in Tour De France.
Today, Binyam Girmay gave us bigger than what we always dreamed... He gave us Victory!!
Thank You Bini!!
Glad you enjoyed it dude, it was pretty special - hopefully he's not done yet in this tour!
Great behind the scenes info by Johan. Best show covering the Tour!
JB2 thank you for such awesome show
Johan's depth of knowledge is just incredible. His passion for cycling is something to behold.
thanks - another great listen!
Great show, very informative, thanks 👍
Bini make history . And bini i hope win 4 times in tour de france 2024
Great show, thanks
This win will definitely set a stage for the new African riders
we can't wait!
johan: thor hushovd wore yellow for garmin/ef back in 2011 while in rainbow
You should see cycling in Eritrea. It's massive. There is lots of talent waiting for a chance. The boss of Intermarche said as much in a quite impassioned speech about how there's so much Eritrean and African talent with great engines but with little opportunities
Johan You the man thx
Chris Froome was born on 20 May 1985 in Nairobi, Kenya! Wink Wink!
I knew I wasn’t the only one who was privy to this.
???? What’s the winking about?
@@poppyrowland1385 A white African!!
He was born in Africa but his is not black African by the way he is English born in Africa as nationality he was racing for England representing his country so don’t consider him as African …
I think JB means by saying “African” racing for Africa. African country flag next to name. I don’t think his skin color has anything to do with it. It certainly was a good performance. BRAVO, crushed it.
You are correct Johan, this was indeed the first ever Tour de France stage win for Intermarche....
Great coverage and commentary as usual. And btw for Johann the amazing uber linguist .. it is a 'historic day' rather than a 'historical day' as Biniam Girmay 'made' history. ;)
"Johan" dude, not "Johann" haha.
Johan you mentioned on this episode that you thought this was EF’s first Yellow Jersey, but in 2020 Sergio Higuita won it and wore it until another rider very disgracefully took his front wheel out and he got back on but few kms down the road had to drop out. It was a nasty crash. His head bounced off the pavement.
Historic
EF Education-EasyPost Richard Carapaz celebrated his gold medal with Wout Van Aert (silver) and Tadej Pogacar (bronze). It´s not a coincidence that he´s 1 today.
3:00 - I tought those ketones help the memory and mental state overall... 🤪🤪
Correct title : The Day Biniam Girmay has an African Cycling Dream!
Cycling is in Our blood thanks to Italy 🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷💥💥💯💯🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Why does it say 2023 stage 7 in description??
JB squared is even better than The Move. I dont even watch it anymore.
Indeed. Especially Lance often turns conversation out of the Tour, even out of cycling that often has no relevant connection with why we're here on The move.
Who cares
@@5508Vanderdekken Many do. Moron.
Anything on Wedu without LA is worth watching.
weak sauce take
Stupid thing to say
Be kind man. The man has changed for the good.
I thought the 5KM is better than 3KM. because all the GC team are gone from the front. The crash happens 2.5km, but at least we don't get a GC guy leaving the race. For me that a good thing. And the crash doesn't take down the entire peloton or a carnage. So I think that's better IMO. I read somewhere that UCI said that they are testing the 5KM on the TDF, so I'm assuming on all the sprint stages.
As far as VL car, I think it's about level playing the field. How's that fair with other small team? They got all the data real time to the team, while Arkea didn't have an advantage for that. Cooking is one thing, but this is not about that. It's about the live race data on the riders, wind etc. That's not good. That's what I call, and "unfair advantage."
I don't understand why pog has to do all the attacking.
I don't understand why UAE don't make Yates et al a factor in the GC to make Visma think
I think that if bikes and roads where availble to africans---or even african americans---that were easily accessible then we would see black pogacr's left and right
Ironic you think bikes are not easily accessible to African-Americans lol
Africa and inner-city black America are widely impoverished. There is wealth and there is middle class segments of these populations but there’s tons of poverty. I’ve seen it with my own eyes
@@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc so have I, I grew up in those areas and I can tell you from experience African Americans have bikes, although they’re usually not theirs.
to the yahoos who don't understand a multi stage race and are groaning over the headline
This is JB2 where the talk is about the race, and stage's which are a single part of the whole. The same reason Girmay is king.... for today.
Tadej is on tape after stage 2 asking Remco if he got yellow. Tadej wanted to give it up yesterday. That Tadej gave it up today is BIG news for the strategy of the race - not just a single stage - ba-du-bump!
I think the title was influenced by The Move's title which came out just before. I mean are you more or less likely to watch 2 30 minute videos on the same channel if they have the same title.
Mário Cipollini !! What's the point of these stages (more than 210 km and flat ),but if is windy nobody will go to the breakaway because they know they 'll be caught and won't be allowed to take more than 3,4 minutes, the effort is greater than the possible reward!! For the broadcast in TV the stage is without fights, not points of interest, etc . A stage with 140 ,150 km with a few climbs ,up and downs all day long is a spectacle that makes people stay in front of the TV, tablet,cell phone, etc .
What do we have in eritrea nothing but cycling and patriotism.
Am I mistaken? Kenya is in Africa, Chris Froome was born and raised in Kenya. Is he not considered African?
He’s not black. That’s what they’re talking about.
Yeah but he played for Britain not for Kenya.
Molines was born in africa but was a french citizen
What about Paul Sherwin
mostly a domestique.
Who
And his suitcase of courage.
Cheating has a long tradition at the grand tours, riders even hid behind bushes during the race so they could wear the black shirt that belonged to the last rider in the peloton, not to mention doping and other crap. Only the naive think that cheating is no longer possible today, in some way cheating enforce competition and progress, but it's killing the spirit of the sports. What Visma can do with its van, if it is equipped with AI technology, is to collect and analyze data from the race broadcast and from other sources directly from the race field. If in addition, they include historical data in the analysis, it is practically possible to instantly predict the course of the race with a very high probability, over 90%, with AI models.
No sports director has the capacity and efficiency to compete with AI models that use quality data sets for processing, so it is logical that teams will prioritize AI in terms of tactical directions. No sports director will object to the AI if he wants to keep his seat in the escort car! Regardless of the complexity of the data analysis process, the results in the form of guidance for the cyclist can be very simple. So that the transmission of the tactical conclusions that the AI model will reach in a second when changes occur in the race, from the "AI van-center" to the sports director and from the spot director to the rider, can take place in a few sentences. The cyclist does not need much guidance, just like in a car, the sports director increases and decreases the speed by pressing the pedal, he can also tell the rider to attack, wait... or use codes a,b,c...or smoke signals on mountaintops
With AI the game is over and the big wave of AI is coming so fast that when it hits us the only thing left to do will be to unplug from the power grid to not watch the massacre. It doesn't matter where AI it's located, whether in a van or in the Netherlands, as long as you have access to the source of information (with the advancement of technology, teams will no longer need a van). It is impossible to completely limit the transfer of data to the rider and to the sports director from the AI centers, so the key in the future will be to completely cut off radio communication with the rider in direction from the sports director to the rider. Paradoxically, the race for those of us who follow the race through the TV screens would become more interesting with the use of AI technology with more data at disposal, but the cyclists would be managed by AI like racing horses without any autonomy, and we would have fun watching.
Love the podcast, but at some point both Johan and Lance are going to have let go of their undying hatred for Jonathan Vaugthers. It's 2024. Let it go, FFS. It's toxic.
JB1 I think this 5km is just BS, when the ASO lays out the course 🤷♂️ they say "if there's a situation" WTF they make the finish. Stop making dangerous finishes. It's that simple. I think Adam Hansan needs to be much more of a big mouth about the dangerous courses that they put together 😥🤞🙏
They had a food truck.....where their riders could eat and then visit Dr Ferrari
. He left that part out.
Awful choice of title😮💨😮💨...u did the stage and the victor an injustice.
in the end Tour is about GC, the rest is a side show - so Pog giving the jersey is the topic.
Too many people complain about spoiling the results in the titles.
@@natus99u cant be serious..in years to come nobody is gonna talk about the stage sayin pogi lost the yellow but rather the monumenetal victory for girmay...stop being a troll
@@natus99 "In the end" it's about GC. Along the way it's all the other stories and stage winners. It's been like that forever.
Why does anyone give a shit about that guy?