Primera on the Highway - how did its first long trip go?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- It's the first long trip in Peggy the Nissan Primera P11, so join us as we cruise along the M4 motorway. What's good and what's bad about this British-built Japanese family motor?
Apologies for the variable sound in this one. We were experimenting with different things.
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To be fair Ian i have always got a pain in the arse when travelling , but she will just not stay home 🤭👍
I've got one of those🤨
Now that was funny.
That SR20 is a cracking engine, my favourite 4 pot. We had the Nissan 3 litre 6 in Holden VL Commodores , and that was a fantastic engine as well, so much better than the old 202 Holden lump.
The 202 had a unique character. It was sad for Australia when they stopped making it. Yes it was totally obsolete and environmentally unfriendly. A real shame that they neglected to develop a replacement or significantly improve it to keep it up to date.
I had a Nissan note that was particularly uncomfortable, bought a beaded seat cover, did the job nicely 😀
Did you have the stereotypical decorative tissue box on the parcel shelf? 👌😂
The Nissan Note isn't really a beaded seat cover car.
My Grandad had a beaded seat cover in his Metro, I never understood that or the go faster stripes he also added. The Venn diagram of go faster stripes and beaded seat covers must surely be , just my Grandad.
I have found every Nissan I’ve driven or been a passenger in to be extremely uncomfortable for more than half an hour.
Yes mt I had arlmer omg seats rubbish
Thanks’ Ian & Carly that has cheered me up after a pretty poor day where I went to hospital to find I have two blood clots in my leg, back there at 8:30am tomorrow for scans the 2 injections of Heparin in the stomach were not entirely pleasant :(
Gosh. Hope you're feeling better soon.
@@hubnotes Thanks my Easter so far has been pants :( Every time I walk it feels like someone is pulling fishing hooks through my legs!
I owned one for three years. Bullet proof reliability and economical. Great car.
I’ve had various P11 Primeras, mostly the 2.0GT (still own one I bought in 1998), and 40+mpg was pretty easy on a run. Loving the content on it.
In terms of comfort, the bucket seats on the GT (and Si / SRi) are one of the most comfortable I’ve sat in as you get base tilt adjustment too.
“Steve Wright has finished for the day so that’s good news” 100% truth.
Vine’s better tbh
I'm not alone.
Jeremy Slime and Steve Sh*te on Radio pooh, I think I might have lost my mind if I was still listening to them.
It's all about Ken Bruce and Popmaster
@@phhu7554 That made my day.
Nice bit of chatter there on the motorway , happy easter to you two and the kiddies , oh and the dogs.
Get beaded seat cover it suits the character of the car well also makes you look like a professional driver of the 90s era.
Memory foam cushions would come in handy.but don't forget to bring them :-)
What a lovely cheerful video. Still amazes me that car manufacturers make seats that are uncomfortable. £500 million developing a car £100 spent on seats 🙄
That’s why I love my Volvo S40. When designing their seats, Volvo enlisted the expertise of some orthopaedic clinicians. By far the best car seats I have ever sat in.
@@Elvis_TheKing I had a 1998 S40. I agree about the seats! I loved that car, so well made, quality materials and good to drive. I think the seats are the most important thing in s car. My 1983 Citroen BX seats come a close second.
Modern (this term is obviously relative, I don't mean 1.0 3-cylinder turbo era) cars, even relatively big engined ones, can be surprisingly economical when sat at cruising speed on the motorway. Not unusual to see mid-40s in a Mondeo V6. Sadly, single digits are similarly possible when you give it the aforementioned beans, but it makes a great noise when converting money to noise.
If you haven't already, one day you should try an accord Mk7. Not that old or typically 'hubnut', but they suddenly realised seat comfort was important and upped their games to Volvo/Saab levels.
It may have been a waffle vlog but I thought it was brilliant,and Miss HubNut filming was a great part 👌
You’re doing well with the Primera’s fuel economy. I must admit I haven’t undertaken the same exercise with the N15 Pulsar but I suspect it isn’t so good - that’s doing over 3000rpm at around 60mph. But it does go well pretty well through the rev range, and doesn’t mind being pushed along at 4000rpm (those GA engines are outstanding and last forever). I have to say I find the seats very good in the Pulsar, they’re firm and offer good support all round. Only thing is you feel like you’re sitting on the road when you’re driving, but then again I’m used to my Nissan Datsun ute and NV200 Vanette as they’ve been my daily rides. Thanks Ian and Miss H for sharing, and allowing me the opportunity to compare notes 😀
My friends Primera broke down on the M4, clutch lost drive... He was lucky because he spotted a Mr Clutch and managed to exit and roll into it. They did a brilliant job for a good price.
Wait. There's dedicated CLUTCH repair places on the M4?
With clutches I find they work or they don't...you don't find many 'brilliant" ones out there.
@@rollingtroll yes but only for Nissans
@@whitemonkey7932 Shops can up sell things like flywheels when they are not needed.
They can also fit substandard parts that fail a year or so later..
Furthermore they can leave out bolts, break clips and generally mess up your car.
I'm assuming you two may have the same issue me and my other half have with car seats (she 5ft11 and me 5ft4 ) - finding something that suits us both! We're now onto our 3rd VW Polo as it's one of the few cars the seats suit both of us!
Love how it revvs
Well it is nice to see you both now out & about enjoying the open road.
44 miles per Imperial gallon = 36.6 miles per U.S. gallon, or 6.42 L/100km.
Aaand here's the Dutch doing km/l :D.
1:15.6 :D.
Stick to your audio!!! 😂
So ?
Brilliant video Ian 👍
Good cruising car the Primera apart from the seats. That's what I love about my Qashqai work it hard on a slip road and it makes a wonderful noise, same with my Micras that I had once you planted it, built up the revs the engines would just sing. I find myself taking mine out down a bit of the A7 near my house from time to time and there is 3 straight bits with roundabouts and I come off and plant it slow down for the next roundabout and do the same and again and do the same again on the way back... Not sure what latest Nissan engines are like but not as good as the ones in the Primera and Micra
The Primera 2.0 hatchback has an advertised mpg of 37.3 so 44 mpg sounds a little optimistic but a good result none the less! I am curious what the next filling up will show. Thanks for the video!
Quality content, cheers 👍
It might be uncomfortable and look a little plain but it sounds brilliant when driven enthusiastically.
'Ptchoo' in a HubNotes video. Very HubNut! Glad to see the Primera doing what it was designed for. It sounds a lot like my old Accord 2.2 iVTEC in its power delivery. Happy easter Mr and Miss HubNut.
Interesting that seat info! We made a trip in our Volvo the other day and our conversation quickly went to how reassuringly supportive the Volvo seats are over a long period of time and for completely different persons.
Cheered up my Easter 👍
First of all; Liking this video format!
2:22 Ian completely misses what is actually said here :D
Also if my car did 37mpg on the highway I'd kick it out. That's not good fuel economy at all. The Volvo does 42 and I think that's on the limit of what I'd expect for highway use. My Astra F 1.6 did 47 on the highway!
Ah! Update on fuel. That's better.
4:14 That's what you do. Don't fix it, imitate it.
My Micra had rubbish seats too, made my lower back absolutely scream.
The problem was solved by an extra cushion added for my lower back, might be worth a shot!
Good to be on a mission.
Hi u2 I've just injured the video thankyou again. You and the hubnut family take care 😊😊
Seat comfort is really important to me. European manufacturers seem to get it right. Reading to Carmarthen in a (hired) C200 was fine, no numb bum! Stopped when the car suggested I have a coffee! I have also done many 1000 km days over the years here in Australia in a succession of Volvos, Volkswagens and Peugeots. Also a Bluebird and a Skyline, but Nissan Australia fitted Australian designed seats. I think their engineers knew something! Also did 4 hours in a Toyota 86. No problem. On the other hand , more than an hour in a Hyundai I30 was not pleasant.
My dad owned many cars in he’s time and he always said he’s Montego had the most comfy seats. My MK3 Mondeo has very comfy seats .
As stated elsewhere, you need to try a C5. Not the Sinclair one preferably.
The stock seats in my 66 beetle are surprisingly comfortable. Everywhere in the US is a long drive. 🤪
Same with my 2CV!
A friend of mine had one in red with chome door handles automatic gear box as well thst was fast
We should point out to our US friends that all mileages stated are in Imperial gallons rather than the smaller US gallons. According to my conversion app, 44mpg Imperial= 36mpg US.
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I was one of the 5 or so people who bought a 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis with the 5.8 litre (352) Windsor engine and the Trailer Tow III Package. On a straight cruise, 7 litres per 100 km, or 40 miles to the Imperial gallon, on a straight highway cruise. On a 70 litre fill, 1,000 km, or 625 miles. Impressive for a car rated for 6,000 pounds of trailer weight.
Hmm, used to drive my K10 and K11 Micra's long distances but never got back/bottom issues. Maybe your back/bottoms are a bit ring rusty after lockdown, but tbh 300 miles in any car is as much as I want to drive before a) the call of nature forces me to stop or b) just nice to stretch the legs and have a break. Never understood drivers who seem to think driving non-stop until the tank is dry is a badge of honour. Just plan in a little break, breaks up a monotonous motorway journey and gets you to your destination feeling fresher.👍
My dad had an M reg 2.0 SGX as the family bus years ago. Fantastic car, 170k when it sold. Engine was sweet, unfortunately the old Nissan rot set in!
Hi to the pair of you, great to see you back on the road again.
The Primera makes a surprisingly good noise when you give it the beans. I like it. A Gregg's lunch and a motorway fuel stop? Sounds like Moto did well out of team Hubnut
I am sure the seat comfort can be fettled in some way because Peggy seems to revel in the long distance cruise. Steve Wright, on the other hand can prove detrimental to relaxation, radio can be fettled also. The little doughnut neck cushions can help passengers quite a bit. As for the posterior, you will have to try several solutions to find what suits.
Seat comfort is important and often overlooked. It's a reason when you get it right to stick with the same model especially if you've had bad experience with others. My Leon mark 3 is reasonable on that front. May ache a little after 3 hours or so but will recover with a short stretch and walk about. Alfa MiTo was the worst. Back ache set in after just 30 minutes and by 2 hours you were really uncomfortable. It then persisted for hours. Sold the car after a year as a result. Vauxhall Astra test drive 25 mins long and after only 15 slightly uncomfortable. No sale there then. Hyundai i20 hire car lacking in support. 1 hour wasn't good. Mazda 3. Odd one this. Uncomfortable after 30 mins, more so by 60 but by 2 hours things actually had improved. If a manual you need a good foot rest. Leon has only one for the left foot, no where to rest right foot on a cruise with cruise control on. Mark 2 Leon had one on each side. Why remove it? My focus mark 2 was also reasonable. Never had anything amazing in this respect. But I have traveled as passenger in BMW and Jags and been very comfortable. But the plush velor seats if the 90s Granada are probably my favourite
A friend had a Landover Discovery Series 1, I think. After 3 hours behind the wheel I had to stop driving. The seats pinched either a nerve or a blood vessel and my feet and lower legs were completely numb. No thanks
A beaded car seat is a must in that car!
I never found any problems with either of my P11's with seat comfort. Yes they are perhaps more German than French with not much cushioning but I'd get out the same as I got in . Quite a lot of adjustments available, so worth plying with those perhaps. Yes, motorway mpg very good and if yours has the computer you can see it go up as you drive. It doesn't take long for it to lose about 10mpg after you get back into town and 30 limits though.
Clip the hanging mic to a sun visor maybe?
We both found the seats fairly harsh. Did have a good play with the various settings.
As cars go I found that the Nissan Premier was a good all round car. 👍👍
A seat change is definitely needed, a couple of comfy seats like the Rover has if they fit, a bit of research and a trip to a breakers to find some.
Yes the Rover 75 or any Volvo seat will blow your mind on a long run.
@@seancooke4127 I drive a 400,000 mile Volvo 240 Estate. 6 hours and no ache is not bad. The best seat ever for me was the bench seat on a base model 79 Ford Thunderbird. 14 hours behind the wheel between an early breakfast and a late dinner, and not an ache to be felt
@@michaeltutty1540 now that is a beautiful car. No chance of that massive bench fitting into a P11 Primera though. The P11 is what you would call an Infiniti G20. That being said, 14 hours with no pain is epic Man. Amazing.
Nope, I didn't giggle at the "sore bottoms" part, totally didn't do that at all........... :P
Very neat. They are nifty little cars, but even in the Infiniti G-20 version the seats are hard and uncomfortable after a few hours
Hi folks, have any of you tried the " taxi beaded" seat covers? This may aliviate the bottom and back discomfort.
Instead of a highlight at the end. HubNut finishes on a headlight. Seems very HubNut.
Can you get thick lambswool seat covers for a Primera?
Could buy some memory foam and make some nice cushions of you own
Also.... I thought pchooooooo was reserved for Hubnut not Hubnotes?
Know how you feel about Steve Wright, always want to visit him and give him a serious kickin ( no g) how he gets away with doing the same stuff he did in the 80s is beyond me
It wasn't even good in the 80s Man. He still talks over the intro or the ending on every single track. It was impossible to record off his show without compulsory editing afterwards leaving silly long pauses on your cassettes. Maybe the record companies employed him to stop us knicking the latest singles off the radio. Tommy Vance was much more considerate.
I'm no massive fan of Morrissey as a person, but he did write the immortal words "hang the deejay, hang the deejay, hang the deejay" about Steve Wright. Mark & Lard were much better.
You might slag him off but you're still listening to him...🤔
His show could probably be an hour shorter if he didn't play so many jingles. It does annoy me when he cuts a song short just to fit a jingle in too
Is he still regularly inflicting Toto on the unfortunate listeners ?
for my 2001 C. Impala, if i drive 66-70MPH with 210K miles on it, and emlers glue poured into it decade ago (the old lady who owned it son had a stroke, was like a 5yr old, so to punish her dumped the whole bottle of glue into the oil fill)... i can get 34-37 on highway, normaly get 25-26 on city.
I see the "Ptshcoooooooshhh"'s have migrated here now :-D
To be honest, this was going to be a full HubNut video, but I've got some stronger content coming and felt this video was more of a HubNote. After filming...
Could you not swop the front seats for more comfortable ones , say Rolls Royce ? I considered this but then found they would not fit in my Panda so I had to settle for a cushion in the lumbar spine area.
A pitchoo? On HubNotes??? :)
Sounded like Anthony Reid back in the day as you wound the old girl up on the slip road!
I live about 6 miles from the services you stopped at and work about 2 miles from there, so close!!!!!!!!
Penllegaer services ? Got family in Gorseinon....haven’t been down for ages. Last saw them in Worcester of all places October 2019, hopefully we can travel and mix now !
44mpg is good. I am lucky to get that in the Mazda 6 Sport 2.2 auto I have been given. 2015. I used to get 55-60mpg in the V70 I had before.
55-60 mpg in a V70? Diesel I suppose?
@@volvo480 1.6 Diesel DrivE.
i think primera seats just need more time spent refining the position than some others- against your musings previously i happily did brum to cornwall in one hit in my 96 vectra as if i was nipping to kings heath from shirley but then i thought the recaros in a sierra were uncomfortable!
peggy awwww
Padded seat covers, cheap and cheerful then they can be moved to another car when you have a change. Love it when you two are chatting away but....we could hardly hear Miss Hubnut.
Yes, we were experimenting with different mic positions. Very hard to get a good balance.
I'd love to see you modify a car until it was ideal for your needs. Different seats, new suspension etc. A tailor made hubnut-mobile
I do have a dream to build such a vehicle. I even know what the base vehicle will be.
@@hubnotes ...but you're not going to tell us! 😄
MissHubNut needs a bit of sticky tape for the headliner mic
"We need to do something about the comfort" I think that means that the primera won't stay long. Also how about a p38 range rover that should fix the space and comfort problems 🤣
You are missing a tin of those car sweets.....you know the ones...
I wish we could still find 'Smith Kendon'.
I've been in a few Neesons (as our American cousins pronounce it) that have uncomfortable seats. I think they must have the same seat designers as aircraft manufacturers. Or, it could be me that's an odd shape? Maybe.
“Neesarn” actually....
That's one of the most off putting things in a car if it has uncomfortable seats, in fact it's a real pain in the butt........ literally.
They do rev quite high......
the taxi is a good car Nissan 🤓👍 try a Dagenham mondeo Ford 🤓👍 happy 🐣 Easter Mr and miss hubnut
Wish I knew what Steve Wright had on his bosses, annoying, talentless and prime excuse for not paying your license fee.
A Mondeo is far more capable & comfortable but we know you won't 😂👍
Ah the Licence Fee. The very reason people like this earn 100s of thousands a year while fabulous local DJs have to have second jobs
What?...............the "PITTTU" is here on this channel as well now???? LOL!
Peggys on her way out the fleet then
The Japanese don't like to be too comfortable...it's in the culture of Bushido.
We expect comfort in the west 😎👍🏼
skinny japanese and portly brummie (joke ian) big difference lol
HubNut´s other japanese car ( the Daihatsu ) has quite comfy seats although it´s a Kei car. I own one myself, they are not too soft, not too firm, just *right* :)
Happy Easter hub nut family , p.s what's the best route from London to cardigan is it M4 all the way or turn off and cross country.
Yeah, M4 as far as possible, then Carmarthen to Cardigan. If you have the time, heading up to Oxford and following the A44 across to the A487 coast road (using the A470 for a time) is a pleasant run. A slow one though!
@@hubnotes thanks.
It would be cheaper to go off the motorway to find a supermarket for fuel than pay rip off prices.
May I ask what the interest rate on the mortgage was? I've always felt like I needed one to stop at Moto!
1.43 per litre.
@@hubnotes you're having a laugh aren't you.
@@hubnotes At least Dick Turpin wore a mask!
Oh...Hang on....
If you like the car Pegy why don't you change the 2 chairs
Get a Xantia or Pug 407 for comfort
There are also some Citroen C5s about at good money with the HDI engine
Yeah, I'm well overdue a C5 really.
@@hubnotes lovely car I had one as a company car it had 120k when I had to let it go , one of the most underrated cars I have driven to be honest
I would have called the primera Paula
Good car but like vectra better
Never seen a “highway” in the British Isles . We become more Americanised ever day, even my children struggle to pronounce z properly. Sorry it just really bugs me !
You won't keep it long... My boss bought me one as a company car. It put me in hospital for a week with my back and those dreadful seats..
Uncomfortable seats I have a solution just create a cushion seat cover out of those old wish T-shirts.
knock off airhawk from your favourite chinese mail order firm 14 quid - air or water fill choice that would work
There must be a simple fix for those seats.
Bead seat covers
@@jtothew4201
A gold crown air fresher and tissue box too
Not sure I like the rest of the car enough to try changing seats, or fitting beaded seat covers. It's a good car, but not entirely my cup of tea.
Yeah - sell it😂
The simplest fix is to replace the whole car with a Volvo or a Saab. The best seats in the business.
Sitting at 75 mph on an English motorway and cars and vans are flying by at 90 maybe?
Turns out the speedo underreads quite dramatically, so an indicated 80 is necessary to hit 70.
@@hubnotes So you were probably only cruising at 65. Other traffic was whizzing past so they must have been well above the permitted speed limit which is what my point was.
Yeah, a constant stream unless there were cameras...
Buying fuel at motorway services ! This man must be made of money 😂
A rare slip! I don't usually make that mistake... Then I had to fill it as I wanted an MPG figure. Ugh.
Who calls a car peggie lol
*motorway
I know, but that didn't scan as well with the Steppen Wolf going through my head.