It’s not marketed as a fuel saving hybrid system, rather as an additional performance boost. Plus having that instant torque in theory will make it better off road compared to even a diesel. The soft suspension is a trade off for improved wheel articulation in tough off road conditions. Just replace the rubbish tyres it comes with. Even compared to the newly upgraded Prado it’s still a decade ahead in terms of technology and comfort with significantly less noise than that prehistoric 2.8 litre diesel engine. A tweak to the suspension, with dual purpose tyres and it rides significantly better. Yes it isn’t proved over time in Australia, yet China have been making cars domestically for decades now. Even in the naughties I was impressed with driving in China. I’ve also owned a couple of Landcruisers over the years including the last generation. Plus you also need to factor into the fuel economy that this doesn’t require premium fuel so that’s a 15-20% saving to also consider.
I don't believe he did his research on how this system is designed. It's designed to have v6 performance from a 4 cylinder without killing it with boost. And it does it well.
I’d be interested in your opinion on the best of the “cheap” SUVs - would it be the Chery Tiggo Pro 8, the Haval H6, or something else? No car reviewers ever seem to compare them against each other. Also which ones do you think will last in Australia and which ones will most likely fail after a couple of years.
how much Toyota payed to him or he is their fanboy!!when you sit in Prado or that Ford suv and similar price suvs they.looks like you sit in tractor not in vehicle
Driving Enthusiast is obviously not being paid by the CCP. Also go to other reviews and you'll see many "positive" comments of supposedly people that have either driven or own the Tank. It's so obvious chinese bot comments praising the Tank.
@@Cptshad001 7.5m is fairly significant, yes. One of the longest distances I have ever recorded on a new car. The time is not really important but it gives some idea of pitch/dive body movement; the Vbox records all movement.
This hybrid tank 500 is only for Australian market because of that emission thing . In Chinese domestic market, I believe only the 3.0 v6 TT version, because it is initially designed to have larger engine, not that pity 2L petrol with a battery. And not a even PHEV. So it is almost pointless to chase up fuel economy as well as performance. The hybrid version of tank 500 is just a ram without balls, because Labour Party stopped the larger engine vehicle. The average fuel economy for the v6 TT tank 500 tested in China is about 15L per 100, which is not bad compared to my previous v6 Kluger(14.6) and RX350(13L per 100), btw the RX350 is a shit, you can’t do anything with it, only tows 1600kgs. Can’t even tow a small caravan.
You get what you pay for. I reckon these Chinese cars are good overall value making it affordable for most people. People's Republics of China mate. Not like the land down under where most people can't afford a flat. sorry mate it is what is TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. CHINESE MAKE LIFE AFFORDABLE ADMIT IT. It looks really pretigious inside out and if you drive sensibly it should last a few years. Whho would have guessed that you can get fully fledged off roaders like Tank 300 and 500 from 50 GRANDs.
This is $64,000. That’s not cheap. You can get an Isuzu MU-X 4x4 3.0TD from around $60,000 including on-roads. Or a Mitsubishi Pajero GLS 4x4 from around $60k including on-roads as well. Both offer better resale value, a more reliable powertrain package, bigger dealer network, and superior driving dynamics. The Mitsubishi even comes with a 10-year warranty. I recommend ‘leave it’ - as you suggest.
I recently purchased an Everest Trend 4WD (MY23.50), I did look at the Prado (price and yeah price was the issue, well that and the lame duck engine and the fact its being superseded soon), Fotruner (um, yeah was tempted on price but overall function let it down and that lame duck engine), Pajero Sport (was tempted and almost bought it, but none in stock anywhere in trim and colour I wanted) and also the Rexton (just wanted to test drive it was never serious) and did look Tank 300 (lol) and Tank 500 (even bigger lol) as both are petrol turbo (with the 500 having hybrid tech). Seriously the Tank 500 is nice however you would be throwing good money at bad vehicle and the resale would kill you alone (reports are the wholesalers are only going to give 30% retained value after 5 years ... YEESH), unless you can justify throwing away your money then you cant seriously think about this vehicle from GWM, that said should the Tank 500 hold up well in service they will make for an excellent 2nd or 3rd hand purchase in 3 to 5 years time.
The VX Prado is actually second from the top - only the Kakadu sits above it. There's also the GXL and GX lower down. I've used the VX to level the price a bit between the two, but in any case the Prado and Tank 500 officially compete in the same segment in Australia.
I drive it everyday, amazing vehicle and makes the Japanese feel old. Toyota has gone from the best selling brand in China (the biggest car market in the world) to number 9, Mitshibishi has gone bankrupt, Jeep & Nissan are going the same way , I'm not even sure the Japanese car market will survive let alone the USA car manufacturers market.
That's not correct at all. Toyota was number 3 best-selling car brand in China in 2023 (1.7 million sales). And number 2 in 2022. And that only includes Toyota vehicles that are produced in China (any form of import is not counted in their figures).
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia My mistake, I meant to say number 7. Number 3 & 1.7 million sales was last year, things move very quickly in China & yes Toyota has plummeted to number 7 (January to May 2024) with only 292,377 sales & a pitiful 3.6% market share. With sales declining like that & Toyota being the most indebted Company in the world, it's not looking good for them. The Chinese are realising that out dated overpriced Japanese cars are yesterday's news...
the braking distance would put me off. That is 14 metres longer than my BMW SUV same weight. Yes it costs more but 14 metres is the difference between life and death. Literally
good to see a review that isn't immediately blowing smoke up GWM's bum like the rest of the mainstream - great, honest auto journalism mate, we're loving it
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia User error maybe?? Car sauce got 6.9 0-100! I've driven one of these and they drive amazing. At least 10 years of the dying Japanese brands. What the Japanese did to the English cars is exactly what the Chinese are doing to the Japanese.
@@simonbates5939 Disagree. Back in the days the Japanese cars were actually better than some of the local stuff. That’s why they succeeded. From what I can see and what I’ve experienced so far this is not at that standard (yet). User error? Did you not see the “powertrain error” message come up? Hard for a user to purposely cause that.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I drive drive one of there tank 500's everyday, 10 times better than an old feeling Prado. Easy to see why Toyota has dropped from the best selling company in China to number 9. I'll be surprised if Toyota survive considering the downfall it has take-in the largest car market in the world. In China, Mitsubishi is already bankrupt, so is jeep, Nissan , Honda & Mazda not far away...
@@simonbates5939 Do you work for GWM? Also, isn’t that mainly because China has more and more of its own brands popping up, flooding out existing players? My guess is their tax system makes it very difficult for imports to compete against locally made stuff. And yes, I realise many of the established brands have factories in China too. But I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘Mitsubishi and Toyota are failing’ in that market.
Why does the car move in launch control mode before the brake pedal is released? Isn't the whole point of a launch control program to prevent wheel slip from brake boosting?
Good question. In my opinion these systems are not true launch control. Proper launch control is really only possible with automated-clutch automatics, including DCTs. This is like many other carmakers, like BMW, that offer 'launch control' but really it's just brake-loading with some tweaks to the ECU and transmission mapping to optimise acceleration. Long story short, even with the brake pedal pushed hard the engine is still engaged with the gearbox and wants to move the vehicle forward. I tried harder during actual Vbox timing - the external shots are purely video. Hope that helps.
Enjoyed your content. Based on dimensions isn't this a competitor for landcruiser??? - it is much larger and heavier than Prado. Compared to landcruiser it is abt +$60,000 cheaper. I've heard landcruiser Lane keeper assist is rubbish. In fact most people that I know that have lane keeper and blind spot monitoring in their cars turn it off as it is to intrusive in city. Fuel consumption is disappointing. What do you mean "you don't want a heavy car off road"? The king of off road, the Landcruiser is 2580kg!!!
Thanks for watching. LC300 isn't as long but track widths are 30mm wider (46mm wider overall), also 45mm taller. But mainly I'm referencing VFACTS vehicle classification. Tank 500 is in the same "SUV Large < $80K" segment as Prado etc. LandCruiser is in "SUV Upper Large < $120K" class. Hope that makes sense. Yep, lane keeping aids are annoying in all cars in my opinion, and I often criticise other cars just the same. However, the lane keep setup and in particular the driver monitoring camera in this seems to be poorly calibrated compared with other (also annoying) systems out there. As for the weight, the top-spec Prado Kakadu weighs 2455kg and the top-spec Tank 500 is 2605kg (kerb, according to Redbook). That's 150kg more. And yes, the LandCruiser is heavy as well - that's not good either. If it was lighter it would get even further off road. Hope that all make sense.
I think that with respect to some draw back,, we have to kind of appreciate the level of craftsmanship of this vehicle and the efforts that has been put to to it in terms if design and technology , so even if it lags in some way or the other it is still a “good car” overall with thay price tag and exclusive 10 year drivetrain warranty is second to none. We have to remember that this car is compared to only few cars around the world with this category! To name some land cruiser or nissan patrol or ford Everest! Off course we want the best bang for out buck! But also it comes with, price tag !
@@GoldenPreacher Mitsubishi Pajero Sport is the same price, just as capable, and is covered by a 10-year warranty (not just powertrain). Isuzu MU-X is also same price and just as capable. Both offer better resale value and have proven history.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia sorry i forgot to mention that i was talking specifically about middle east region! So the tank we have is only one option which a fully gasoline engine 3.5L twin turbo boasting a staggering 350hp and 500 ft/p torque. No hybrid available!! The Pajero has been phased out (discontinued ) since 2021! Only available in Australia market! Comparing the Isuzu is like comparing g apples and oranges! Completely different vehicles
Did you even read the manufacturer's notes, the hybrid system is designed for power and performance, not the economy, maybe watch a few of the other reviews?
@@kevlyn1963 I did read the media kit but I call BS. I’m a journalist - my job is to ask questions and find answers, not simply listen to what a big company says. No car manufacturer adds complex and heavy hybrid tech only for the sake of performance. It is there to pass emissions laws and restrictions imposed in some areas. Even in F1 racing, hybrid tech is only there to meet FIA regulations and to help with the development of such tech for the road cars for the respective brands. PS. It’s not doing a good job of adding performance anyway; official 0-100 claim in 8.3s does not match the so-called 255kW output.
The Vbox only starts recording when it passes down through the 100km/h mark, as shown in the results on the phone. I have to go above an indicated 100 as pretty much all speedos are out. For example, if I only watched the speedo the vehicle might only be going 94-95km/h and therefor the Vbox would not record a result. Also keep in mind this is how all vehicles are tested on this channel. Thanks for your feedback 😀
Because ANCAP doesn't actually test things like driver monitoring cameras. It's just a tick-box. If it has it, the car is eligible for 5 stars. It doesn't matter how well (or not) it works. As long as it has it. There are a few technology prerequisites like this. Also, ANCAP does not test braking performance, at all.
Definitely don’t buy the Chinese car version that not been sold in China. I don’t want to say that but Chinese mandate iteration is very fast sometimes clients are test drivers and they will update the bugs and issue afterwards. For instance Tank300 has sold 30k cars in China (mainly in petrol) and it updates the gearbox software for several times ( to improve the smooth between 2nd and 3rd) gear. Those issue we have seen in AU versions are mainly new issues for those cars. ( 17inch ATT tyres are main choices in China with no break issue; no compulsory emergency line keeping). HEV are not sold in Chinese market so u would better not buy this.
From Car expert which tested performance in the proper testing ground, the braking distance is 45.6 metre which is awful in my opinion, but it is still similar or even better than some of its competitors, eg. Everest/Pajero Sport. Yes, the braking is even worse than the last gen Prado, but mainly due to the Giti tyres, as most of Chinese reviews got under 40m results with Continental tyres… Even with the worst situation, the acceleration is still much better than most or all of the competitors…and it gives torque when off-road. It’s petrol, it’s certainly using more fuel than diesels…but yes, PHEV is the way to get much better fuel efficiency which GWM sell in China. The interior space is not worse than the Pardo 7seats, if it is not better… The thing I cannot comment is the reliability…
Thanks for your comment. It's never a good idea to compared results from different channels/tests because the surface, temp, timing equipment is all going to be different. Even the vehicle is likely different. I also notice Car Expert has a GWM ad campaign running next to their review on the website... When you say: "The interior space is not worse than the Pardo 7seats, if it is not better…" Are you referring to boot space? Boot space is listed at 98L with three rows up in the Tank 500 and 120L in the Prado.
Regarding on the 255kw, it’s the simple combination of the maximum output numbers of the engine and P2 elec motor. As it’s a system with a quite large motor and a small 1.7kwh battery, the discharge rate of the battery is not enough to support the motor all the time. PHEV is the way to get constant power output. Anyway, I don’t think 7.7 to 8.5s are a huge difference.
The stats I referring are all their tested results. For the boots, I could barely see the difference with the third row up, but the official numbers should be right.
Not certain I would want be an early adopter of one of these. I think you find a Prado VX will be significantly more especially the new model when released which will likely be over $90k driveway for a VX.
Yep, new Prado prices have gone up (excluding on-roads): GX: $72,500 GXL: $79,990 VX: $87,400 Altitude: $92,700 Kakadu: $99,990 Keen to test the new model. If it is much better than the predecessor then I guess some of that extra cost is justified. But even as it is, the outgoing Prado, in my opinion, is a superior product to this Tank 500 in terms of long-term reliability, efficiency, real-world safety, resale value, and driving dynamics. I'd be happy to pay extra for that.
For only a few grand less than a Prado you'd have to have rocks in your head to buy one of those. And even aside from having to live with a shitbox for however long you tolerated it, the resale will be woeful. Fuel consumption over 14l/100 by the time you got to the offroad section too. It's genuinely amazing to me that people even consider it - and it's shameful that none of the other fawning reviews of the vehicle have noted the soggy suspension and appalling braking performance. Thankyou for being one of very few honest reviewers. Keep it up, if there's one thing the world needs it's people telling it how it is.
Thanks a lot. Yes I agree - it's bad enough with politicians. I think there are some advertising deals going around with GWW. That might be why others aren't reporting this stuff. A good way to tell is check out the written reviews and if there is some kind of campaign going within the review, that isn't an automated Google ad but a custom GWM ad (or whatever the respective brand is), it's probably some kind of paid deal.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia yes, sometimes you see a review of a car you're familiar with and think there simply has to be something going on because it's so detached from reality. I've got a huge collection of older car mags and it's really notable how the tone has changed. If something was crap in the 80s or 90s it was called out. There should be rules around graft, at least it should have to be declared like it is with other types of media. You're as close to the Peter Wherrett ethos as I've seen in years and I mean that as a big compliment. I always had the utmost respect for his style - you've probably seen that the ABC has uploaded some old Torque episodes and it's really stark to see the contrast between someone saying what they really think about a car without being scared and some of the reviews you see now where the worst thing people will say is "it uses a little more fuel than I expected" or "I don't like this colour".
@@mahcooharper9577 That is a huge compliment mate. I loved watching his reviews. Still do. Thanks! Classic; 'I don't like this colour'. When a reviewer really wants to go on the next launch gig and be wined and dined, that's the go-to criticism haha.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia - lol Bret ... Um yeah looking at a certain car sales editorial review *wink*wink* The so called experts over in Melbourne that used to give advice also are known to be in the back pocket of Haval/GWM. Did I say that out loud? Maybe Cadogan can look into it :)
Watched it from start to finish. Wow. What an overpriced,under performing s-box. From the glitchy driver monitoring, to the terrible highway economy, lack of space, and lack of brakes. I'd be steering well clear of this unproven train wreck.
Thanks for watching. It does have some positive aspects, like the interior is really nice and the screens are crisp. External cameras are great as well.
@@klausschroiff4405 I've timed a Raptor 100-0 on the same piece of tarmac in 46.96m. It has pretty crazy off-road tyres. This has 'HT71' tyres, highway terrain. And it took 50m.
@@drivingenthusiastaustraliaFrom other reviews tested in the proper testing ground, the Everest with highway tyres has similar brake distance to this tank 500…
I own the ultra tank 500
Already got 10000 kms on
With around 3000 towing a 2t boat
I prefer this car over my landcruiser any day
So say what u like 👍
LOL! you loser!
This blokes never said a thing good about gwm 🤦🏾♂️
I think he is Chinese manufacturer hater
It’s not marketed as a fuel saving hybrid system, rather as an additional performance boost. Plus having that instant torque in theory will make it better off road compared to even a diesel. The soft suspension is a trade off for improved wheel articulation in tough off road conditions. Just replace the rubbish tyres it comes with. Even compared to the newly upgraded Prado it’s still a decade ahead in terms of technology and comfort with significantly less noise than that prehistoric 2.8 litre diesel engine. A tweak to the suspension, with dual purpose tyres and it rides significantly better. Yes it isn’t proved over time in Australia, yet China have been making cars domestically for decades now. Even in the naughties I was impressed with driving in China. I’ve also owned a couple of Landcruisers over the years including the last generation. Plus you also need to factor into the fuel economy that this doesn’t require premium fuel so that’s a 15-20% saving to also consider.
I don't believe he did his research on how this system is designed. It's designed to have v6 performance from a 4 cylinder without killing it with boost. And it does it well.
this much more luxurious car then whst others have in that price range or higher and if you get 7 year warranty its good too
I’d be interested in your opinion on the best of the “cheap” SUVs - would it be the Chery Tiggo Pro 8, the Haval H6, or something else? No car reviewers ever seem to compare them against each other. Also which ones do you think will last in Australia and which ones will most likely fail after a couple of years.
Thanks for your comment. Great idea for a future video. I’ll see if I can put something together very soon 👍
how much Toyota payed to him or he is their fanboy!!when you sit in Prado or that Ford suv and similar price suvs they.looks like you sit in tractor not in vehicle
That indicator sound sucks, over time it would annoy me endlessly
Driver monitoring camera would annoy me also
Not your cup of tea
Dead ringer for the older lincoln navigator from the front. Looks alright but the design is quite uninspired.
I love your headline. Whilst other journos are saying "Prado killer", you say it how it really is.
Driving Enthusiast is obviously not being paid by the CCP.
Also go to other reviews and you'll see many "positive" comments of supposedly people that have either driven or own the Tank. It's so obvious chinese bot comments praising the Tank.
Well named....🤪
what is the braking distance of a prado or everst? Has anyone tested that?
@@Cptshad001 Yes, on this channel.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I see, 4s vs. 3.36s, 50m vs. 42.62m is it that much of a difference though
@@Cptshad001 7.5m is fairly significant, yes. One of the longest distances I have ever recorded on a new car.
The time is not really important but it gives some idea of pitch/dive body movement; the Vbox records all movement.
Sounds like that's a shitbox 😅
Perhaps you're the one, who is paid to trash all these Chinese cars? Asking for a friend 😂😂😂
Paid by who exactly?
Are you always so underwhelming? asking for a friend.
@@shaun1900 My level of excitement and animation is usually a reflection of the product I'm reviewing.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I'm talking about Chris, love the work you do and the honesty you bring to UA-cam.
@@shaun1900 My apologies.
Thanks for the feedback.
This review seems very biased. I like general scepticism with product reviews, but it really seems like you have gone out of your way to mark it down.
This hybrid tank 500 is only for Australian market because of that emission thing . In Chinese domestic market, I believe only the 3.0 v6 TT version, because it is initially designed to have larger engine, not that pity 2L petrol with a battery. And not a even PHEV. So it is almost pointless to chase up fuel economy as well as performance. The hybrid version of tank 500 is just a ram without balls, because Labour Party stopped the larger engine vehicle. The average fuel economy for the v6 TT tank 500 tested in China is about 15L per 100, which is not bad compared to my previous v6 Kluger(14.6) and RX350(13L per 100), btw the RX350 is a shit, you can’t do anything with it, only tows 1600kgs. Can’t even tow a small caravan.
You get what you pay for. I reckon these Chinese cars are good overall value making it affordable for most people. People's Republics of China mate. Not like the land down under where most people can't afford a flat. sorry mate it is what is TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. CHINESE MAKE LIFE AFFORDABLE ADMIT IT. It looks really pretigious inside out and if you drive sensibly it should last a few years. Whho would have guessed that you can get fully fledged off roaders like Tank 300 and 500 from 50 GRANDs.
This is $64,000. That’s not cheap. You can get an Isuzu MU-X 4x4 3.0TD from around $60,000 including on-roads. Or a Mitsubishi Pajero GLS 4x4 from around $60k including on-roads as well. Both offer better resale value, a more reliable powertrain package, bigger dealer network, and superior driving dynamics. The Mitsubishi even comes with a 10-year warranty. I recommend ‘leave it’ - as you suggest.
same as with other manufacturers ,you pay more but get shit
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia Pajero is not even close to Tank 500. You pay more for less quality. So smart!
@@JJ-yg1sf But you don’t pay more - Pajero Sport is the same price. That’s what I’m getting at.
Looks like a mini 2nd generation Toyota Sequoia
Good old Marrickville metro ❤️
i think u get paid by toyota😅😅😅
I recently purchased an Everest Trend 4WD (MY23.50), I did look at the Prado (price and yeah price was the issue, well that and the lame duck engine and the fact its being superseded soon), Fotruner (um, yeah was tempted on price but overall function let it down and that lame duck engine), Pajero Sport (was tempted and almost bought it, but none in stock anywhere in trim and colour I wanted) and also the Rexton (just wanted to test drive it was never serious) and did look Tank 300 (lol) and Tank 500 (even bigger lol) as both are petrol turbo (with the 500 having hybrid tech).
Seriously the Tank 500 is nice however you would be throwing good money at bad vehicle and the resale would kill you alone (reports are the wholesalers are only going to give 30% retained value after 5 years ... YEESH), unless you can justify throwing away your money then you cant seriously think about this vehicle from GWM, that said should the Tank 500 hold up well in service they will make for an excellent 2nd or 3rd hand purchase in 3 to 5 years time.
Where did you hear the resale value from? That's really concerning.
@@nickc6882he predicted it.
@@erwin734 ah, understood. So he made it up. Thanks.
Keep up the great content mate - killing it with the authentic reviews, noting the good, bad and ugly
Brakes like my dads old mirror minor panel van 😅
Then again…my neighbor has a supercharged f150 raptor and that stops in the next time zone as well
You are comparing the upper limit price of Tank500 and lowest limit price of Prado. It is really a "fair" comparison.🤧
The VX Prado is actually second from the top - only the Kakadu sits above it. There's also the GXL and GX lower down.
I've used the VX to level the price a bit between the two, but in any case the Prado and Tank 500 officially compete in the same segment in Australia.
Ooh is this a Lincoln Navigator? Oh no! Wait, it’s a GWM
Agree Brett that chrome grill needs a redesign
It'll only be 'chrome' for a little while - then the tape will peel off
I like the chrome look trim -(I assume it is plastic).
I drive it everyday, amazing vehicle and makes the Japanese feel old. Toyota has gone from the best selling brand in China (the biggest car market in the world) to number 9, Mitshibishi has gone bankrupt, Jeep & Nissan are going the same way , I'm not even sure the Japanese car market will survive let alone the USA car manufacturers
market.
That's not correct at all. Toyota was number 3 best-selling car brand in China in 2023 (1.7 million sales). And number 2 in 2022. And that only includes Toyota vehicles that are produced in China (any form of import is not counted in their figures).
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia My mistake, I meant to say number 7. Number 3 & 1.7 million sales was last year, things move very quickly in China & yes Toyota has plummeted to number 7 (January to May 2024) with only 292,377 sales & a pitiful 3.6% market share. With sales declining like that & Toyota being the most indebted Company in the world, it's not looking good for them. The Chinese are realising that out dated overpriced Japanese cars are yesterday's news...
Yep a vehicle that Will do a wheelie without trying too hard when you slam on the brakes 😂
Toyota Prado from TEMU ...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Temu are crapp vs Aliexpress!!much lower amount of merchandise for offer there and as i see higher prices too
the braking distance would put me off. That is 14 metres longer than my BMW SUV same weight. Yes it costs more but 14 metres is the difference between life and death. Literally
Maybe before doing a review,do you homework
You were in a petrol version
Sounds like you need to do some homework. There is no petrol model in Australia, only this 255kW hybrid, in Ultra and Lux trim level.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia well what is hybrid (petrol)motor
it’s the only version coming to Australia
And maybe I know because I had to fill up my fuel tank
good to see a review that isn't immediately blowing smoke up GWM's bum like the rest of the mainstream - great, honest auto journalism mate, we're loving it
Thanks for doing a proper review. Somehow, a very popular Australian review website rated this as an 8/10.....
@@RodneyW Out of 100 maybe.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia User error maybe?? Car sauce got 6.9 0-100! I've driven one of these and they drive amazing. At least 10 years of the dying Japanese brands. What the Japanese did to the English cars is exactly what the Chinese are doing to the Japanese.
@@simonbates5939 Disagree. Back in the days the Japanese cars were actually better than some of the local stuff. That’s why they succeeded. From what I can see and what I’ve experienced so far this is not at that standard (yet).
User error? Did you not see the “powertrain error” message come up? Hard for a user to purposely cause that.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia I drive drive one of there tank 500's everyday, 10 times better than an old feeling Prado. Easy to see why Toyota has dropped from the best selling company in China to number 9. I'll be surprised if Toyota survive considering the downfall it has take-in the largest car market in the world. In China, Mitsubishi is already bankrupt, so is jeep, Nissan , Honda & Mazda not far away...
@@simonbates5939 Do you work for GWM?
Also, isn’t that mainly because China has more and more of its own brands popping up, flooding out existing players? My guess is their tax system makes it very difficult for imports to compete against locally made stuff. And yes, I realise many of the established brands have factories in China too. But I don’t think it’s as simple as ‘Mitsubishi and Toyota are failing’ in that market.
Mate you try too hard push it down.
@@MachinegunJ I didn’t push it - it’s already down.
$80k driver away for a brand new 23/24 VX is a bargain in Australia. Do you know where you can get one?
Why does the car move in launch control mode before the brake pedal is released? Isn't the whole point of a launch control program to prevent wheel slip from brake boosting?
Good question. In my opinion these systems are not true launch control. Proper launch control is really only possible with automated-clutch automatics, including DCTs. This is like many other carmakers, like BMW, that offer 'launch control' but really it's just brake-loading with some tweaks to the ECU and transmission mapping to optimise acceleration. Long story short, even with the brake pedal pushed hard the engine is still engaged with the gearbox and wants to move the vehicle forward. I tried harder during actual Vbox timing - the external shots are purely video. Hope that helps.
Enjoyed your content.
Based on dimensions isn't this a competitor for landcruiser??? - it is much larger and heavier than Prado. Compared to landcruiser it is abt +$60,000 cheaper.
I've heard landcruiser Lane keeper assist is rubbish. In fact most people that I know that have lane keeper and blind spot monitoring in their cars turn it off as it is to intrusive in city.
Fuel consumption is disappointing.
What do you mean "you don't want a heavy car off road"? The king of off road, the Landcruiser is 2580kg!!!
Thanks for watching.
LC300 isn't as long but track widths are 30mm wider (46mm wider overall), also 45mm taller. But mainly I'm referencing VFACTS vehicle classification. Tank 500 is in the same "SUV Large < $80K" segment as Prado etc. LandCruiser is in "SUV Upper Large < $120K" class. Hope that makes sense.
Yep, lane keeping aids are annoying in all cars in my opinion, and I often criticise other cars just the same. However, the lane keep setup and in particular the driver monitoring camera in this seems to be poorly calibrated compared with other (also annoying) systems out there.
As for the weight, the top-spec Prado Kakadu weighs 2455kg and the top-spec Tank 500 is 2605kg (kerb, according to Redbook). That's 150kg more. And yes, the LandCruiser is heavy as well - that's not good either. If it was lighter it would get even further off road.
Hope that all make sense.
Thanks for your reply - enjoy your videos.
I think that with respect to some draw back,, we have to kind of appreciate the level of craftsmanship of this vehicle and the efforts that has been put to to it in terms if design and technology , so even if it lags in some way or the other it is still a “good car” overall with thay price tag and exclusive 10 year drivetrain warranty is second to none. We have to remember that this car is compared to only few cars around the world with this category! To name some land cruiser or nissan patrol or ford Everest! Off course we want the best bang for out buck! But also it comes with, price tag !
@@GoldenPreacher Mitsubishi Pajero Sport is the same price, just as capable, and is covered by a 10-year warranty (not just powertrain). Isuzu MU-X is also same price and just as capable.
Both offer better resale value and have proven history.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia sorry i forgot to mention that i was talking specifically about middle east region! So the tank we have is only one option which a fully gasoline engine 3.5L twin turbo boasting a staggering 350hp and 500 ft/p torque. No hybrid available!!
The Pajero has been phased out (discontinued ) since 2021! Only available in Australia market!
Comparing the Isuzu is like comparing g apples and oranges! Completely different vehicles
As long as one applies the brakes a day in advance, you should be fine!😱😵💫🤣
That is WOEFUL. Imagine the wet braking performance
Tanks but no Tanks.
good one!
Why
tanks for your support， love from Beijing
Did you even read the manufacturer's notes, the hybrid system is designed for power and performance, not the economy, maybe watch a few of the other reviews?
@@kevlyn1963 I did read the media kit but I call BS. I’m a journalist - my job is to ask questions and find answers, not simply listen to what a big company says.
No car manufacturer adds complex and heavy hybrid tech only for the sake of performance. It is there to pass emissions laws and restrictions imposed in some areas. Even in F1 racing, hybrid tech is only there to meet FIA regulations and to help with the development of such tech for the road cars for the respective brands.
PS. It’s not doing a good job of adding performance anyway; official 0-100 claim in 8.3s does not match the so-called 255kW output.
To be fair the breaking test 100km to zero you were actually doing closer to 120km. But over all a pretty honest review.
The Vbox only starts recording when it passes down through the 100km/h mark, as shown in the results on the phone. I have to go above an indicated 100 as pretty much all speedos are out. For example, if I only watched the speedo the vehicle might only be going 94-95km/h and therefor the Vbox would not record a result. Also keep in mind this is how all vehicles are tested on this channel.
Thanks for your feedback 😀
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia Ah ok, thanks for the reply and clarification.
A very honest review then,👍
Cars with barely working breaks get 5 stars but they can’t get 5 stars without a useless driver monitoring system.
they got better tires there not this here
If the brakes and the safety tech is bad then....... How did it get 5 Star ANCAP rating?????😂
Because ANCAP doesn't actually test things like driver monitoring cameras. It's just a tick-box. If it has it, the car is eligible for 5 stars. It doesn't matter how well (or not) it works. As long as it has it. There are a few technology prerequisites like this.
Also, ANCAP does not test braking performance, at all.
Definitely don’t buy the Chinese car version that not been sold in China. I don’t want to say that but Chinese mandate iteration is very fast sometimes clients are test drivers and they will update the bugs and issue afterwards. For instance Tank300 has sold 30k cars in China (mainly in petrol) and it updates the gearbox software for several times ( to improve the smooth between 2nd and 3rd) gear. Those issue we have seen in AU versions are mainly new issues for those cars. ( 17inch ATT tyres are main choices in China with no break issue; no compulsory emergency line keeping). HEV are not sold in Chinese market so u would better not buy this.
From Car expert which tested performance in the proper testing ground, the braking distance is 45.6 metre which is awful in my opinion, but it is still similar or even better than some of its competitors, eg. Everest/Pajero Sport.
Yes, the braking is even worse than the last gen Prado, but mainly due to the Giti tyres, as most of Chinese reviews got under 40m results with Continental tyres…
Even with the worst situation, the acceleration is still much better than most or all of the competitors…and it gives torque when off-road.
It’s petrol, it’s certainly using more fuel than diesels…but yes, PHEV is the way to get much better fuel efficiency which GWM sell in China.
The interior space is not worse than the Pardo 7seats, if it is not better…
The thing I cannot comment is the reliability…
Thanks for your comment. It's never a good idea to compared results from different channels/tests because the surface, temp, timing equipment is all going to be different. Even the vehicle is likely different. I also notice Car Expert has a GWM ad campaign running next to their review on the website...
When you say: "The interior space is not worse than the Pardo 7seats, if it is not better…"
Are you referring to boot space?
Boot space is listed at 98L with three rows up in the Tank 500 and 120L in the Prado.
Regarding on the 255kw, it’s the simple combination of the maximum output numbers of the engine and P2 elec motor. As it’s a system with a quite large motor and a small 1.7kwh battery, the discharge rate of the battery is not enough to support the motor all the time. PHEV is the way to get constant power output. Anyway, I don’t think 7.7 to 8.5s are a huge difference.
The stats I referring are all their tested results.
For the boots, I could barely see the difference with the third row up, but the official numbers should be right.
I like all the objective results from your reviews, and car expert as well. These are great jobs
Not certain I would want be an early adopter of one of these. I think you find a Prado VX will be significantly more especially the new model when released which will likely be over $90k driveway for a VX.
Yep, new Prado prices have gone up (excluding on-roads):
GX: $72,500
GXL: $79,990
VX: $87,400
Altitude: $92,700
Kakadu: $99,990
Keen to test the new model. If it is much better than the predecessor then I guess some of that extra cost is justified. But even as it is, the outgoing Prado, in my opinion, is a superior product to this Tank 500 in terms of long-term reliability, efficiency, real-world safety, resale value, and driving dynamics. I'd be happy to pay extra for that.
Good honest review, so many others singing the praises of these junkers…
Copy everything from the Prado except it's amazing engineering
If you were going to copy something & make it better, why would you not look at the engineering? Makes no sense at all
prado are for driving in woods and around barns,this is luxurious more
Prado from Temu 😭😂💀
For only a few grand less than a Prado you'd have to have rocks in your head to buy one of those. And even aside from having to live with a shitbox for however long you tolerated it, the resale will be woeful.
Fuel consumption over 14l/100 by the time you got to the offroad section too.
It's genuinely amazing to me that people even consider it - and it's shameful that none of the other fawning reviews of the vehicle have noted the soggy suspension and appalling braking performance.
Thankyou for being one of very few honest reviewers. Keep it up, if there's one thing the world needs it's people telling it how it is.
And if that's 255kW I'll eat my hat.
Thanks a lot. Yes I agree - it's bad enough with politicians.
I think there are some advertising deals going around with GWW. That might be why others aren't reporting this stuff. A good way to tell is check out the written reviews and if there is some kind of campaign going within the review, that isn't an automated Google ad but a custom GWM ad (or whatever the respective brand is), it's probably some kind of paid deal.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia yes, sometimes you see a review of a car you're familiar with and think there simply has to be something going on because it's so detached from reality. I've got a huge collection of older car mags and it's really notable how the tone has changed. If something was crap in the 80s or 90s it was called out.
There should be rules around graft, at least it should have to be declared like it is with other types of media.
You're as close to the Peter Wherrett ethos as I've seen in years and I mean that as a big compliment. I always had the utmost respect for his style - you've probably seen that the ABC has uploaded some old Torque episodes and it's really stark to see the contrast between someone saying what they really think about a car without being scared and some of the reviews you see now where the worst thing people will say is "it uses a little more fuel than I expected" or "I don't like this colour".
@@mahcooharper9577 That is a huge compliment mate. I loved watching his reviews. Still do. Thanks!
Classic; 'I don't like this colour'. When a reviewer really wants to go on the next launch gig and be wined and dined, that's the go-to criticism haha.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia - lol Bret ...
Um yeah looking at a certain car sales editorial review *wink*wink*
The so called experts over in Melbourne that used to give advice also are known to be in the back pocket of Haval/GWM.
Did I say that out loud? Maybe Cadogan can look into it :)
Watched it from start to finish. Wow. What an overpriced,under performing s-box. From the glitchy driver monitoring, to the terrible highway economy, lack of space, and lack of brakes. I'd be steering well clear of this unproven train wreck.
Thanks for watching.
It does have some positive aspects, like the interior is really nice and the screens are crisp. External cameras are great as well.
@@drivingenthusiastaustralia🐂💩 paid by TOYOTA to be biased.
This car will never be better than any Prado only until it proves itself globally for 10 years onwards. Which we know it won't 😂Simple as that.
Why are we letting these death traps in our roads (in theory on our roads noting no one’s going to buy one)
At least they haven't cheated in the Safety test like Toyota etc...
A Ford Raptor has an even worse braking distance ...
And pretty much all 4x4/Utes with off-road tyres.
@@klausschroiff4405its a Ford😌it's a soft spot
@@klausschroiff4405 I've timed a Raptor 100-0 on the same piece of tarmac in 46.96m. It has pretty crazy off-road tyres. This has 'HT71' tyres, highway terrain. And it took 50m.
@@drivingenthusiastaustraliaFrom other reviews tested in the proper testing ground, the Everest with highway tyres has similar brake distance to this tank 500…
I'd be surprised if someone even bought this 😂