I just found your video, thanks for posting! I had the good fortune of growing up in italy and loved building models..in 1971 at the age of 11 I saw the phantom sedanca coupe in the front window of GIORNI, the best hobby shop in rome at the time..I had to have it but my mother thought it was too complicated and expensive..later that year she surprised me with it for christmas! It took me 6 months to build, I was allowed only 2 hours a day on the car, but I finished it and actually still have it..in 2 years I went on to build 4 more and 2 that are unfinished! I still have all of them and I display them proudly in my house in los angeles just a quick note to let you know that pocher is actually pronounced by italians po as in pole and cher as in care with the emphasis on the o in po..anyhow it's a strange name even for italians, from the north eastern town of trento and possibly of austrian origins all the best!
Wow! Thanks for the great info! I discovered Pocher when I lived in Pordenone, Italy for about two years. Although I didn’t buy one while there, I did when I arrived back in The US!
I heard you say what I’ve also have thought is well it fun to work on the little models when my body says take it easy as you aren’t that young anymore. So I get to play with both
I am in the process of building the Bugatti T50 and the Alfa Romeo 8C 2300. All my extras will come from Model Motorcars. I bought both kits at a store that was closing them out over 20 years ago. Combined, they cost me almost $50 for both kits. Your video gave me a lot to shoot for in building the finished model. Being an automotive illustrator I overdue detail, thus it takes me a bit longer to build but the finished model is worth the effort.
Great Video. I always wanted to add a 1:8 to my collection of 1:18s and 1:24s. I'd be more interested in the Rollses, the Merc or the Bugatti in the video. But I am not sure I have all the tools sand parts to build one perfectly. Plus the patience.
WARNING I signed up for the De Agostini 1/8 GT Ford. I received shipments for 15 months, then in February of this year they stopped arriving and I was still charged. I contacted De Agustoni customer service multiple times over the past several months. They stated my subscription was active and they have escalated the problem. I’ve invested over $1,200.00. Obviously the inventory I’ve received is worthless unless my subscription is completed. Their website now indicates they have discontinued that model.
David R Lentz, USA A couple decades past, I almost bought one for round 200 USD (that now seems shockingly low, especially given what I am hearing here) at a local hobby store. I think Pocher/Model Motor Cars yet had been in operation, which may have been a factor, as they were readily available. Had it been some car model I had recognised-a 1920s Duesenberg SJ, Lincoln, Packard, Mercedes Benz, Cord, Auburn, Oldsmobile touring car, or the like-I might have gone for it. It was some sort of old-fashioned racer that to me looked rather like an oversized sausage with thin, solid tyres, so it had no caché with me.
Makes sense accounting for inflations and everything, nowadays a new Pocher 1/8 kit costs about $700 to $850 give or take, I would say it is still worth it though if you have the economic capability, considering that any 1/12 diecast would cost you that much or even higher end 1/18 such as cmc, exoto
I scored a 540K at an estate sale. Incredibly cheap compared to online. We've started building it last Christmas it's now a rolling chassis, and it's gotten my daughter into 3d printing.
@FullEarthWorkshop easily accessible CAD files and 3D resin printers, may feel a bit like cheating compared to the way it had to be done back when they were new. But honestly, that would be so beyond my skill set. Also, scaling and refining a downloaded part engages my daughter over a longer time than bending copper and soldering would.
Man! I gotta decide if I wanna work on my own street car, or build on of those models. 😳 I’ve been building models since the mid seventies, and owned my first car in 84. I’m torn, whether I should keep on building models, or trying to make my street car a a piece of what I wanted to drive to be an example of how I thought it should be. I had no idea of how model kits have become so advanced. I just keep an eye on what’s happening in both worlds, then struggle to make sense of it. I’m getting older now, and crawling under my car, and maintaining it is getting harder.
Thanks for the note Steven...look at it this way, if you build a really nice 1/8 display model, it will be worth more than you have paid for the parts. Try that with a street rod! All the best friend, Doug
@@FullEarthWorkshop I am from Los Angeles if you were anywhere close to Los Angeles I would just give you this model because I don’t think I would ever build yes this thing is too big
Just start building take your time and do every single part very very carefully and take as much time as needed to make it look good and use high end model building glues cements and 2 part epoxy like 10 minute epoxy for the metal parts and for parts that support weight of it, get you a air brush and if you mess up paint you just strip it back off sand down and start again I built one and never built a model before and man it's flawless like it's museum show room quality perfect I ly thing I had done and paid for was to have the plastic parts that was chromed done by someone with a airbrush and metal clad type special paints that is legit metal basically and takes a expert to perfect it to look real and not toyish. But man it's beautiful
My dad, the toy buyer for Kmart, bought out the entire supply Tyco, importing them at the time, had in 1975, after a fire in their Wearhouse, to sell in Kmart stores. Many stories with this. An exec called my dad in and said it was the worst purchase he ever made. My dad told him if there were any left he would personally buy them all. They were bought for a Christmas Promo but never made it. Hobby enthusiast rushed stores and they were sold out in no time. Luckily he brought one for me.
Believe it or not.. My Dad bought me 4 of these cars before I was born and told me about Kmart having a sale due to a warehouse fire. He gave me one each year when I was 8. I still have them and never started building them. They used to have the plastic on them with a Kmart sticker on them.
I"m a long time model builder of plastic kits. I build armor, aircraft and cars . Nothing is better than working with an airbrush, glue ,tools and plastic. But these Pocher models are not worth the money and they're just too big in the 1/8 scale. They also lack much detail in areas and diecast doesn't take to shaping like plastic does! Also since they're basically screwed together it's not real model building!
Hm iv`e seen em truely scaled down cars real engines real gas real brake fluid real transmission fluid real brakes,basicly turn key literally turn key cars for smurfs. Hint me on where to find or just see them,again. ty.
Yes- the quality controls were not good, but with a lot of patience (and scratch building) they can be stunning! The newer Pochers go together much easier, but are not as detailed as the 60s to 80s kits.
I purchased a Pocher kit decades ago, the 1932 Alfa Romero. It was a complete disappointment, a disaster. Probably the worst kit I've ever owned. In fact I gave it away.
I brought on in 1977 was disappointed in the the fit quality of engine parts and packed it away for another day it sat in my attic for years am getting back into modeling in my retirement. Am 63 I was 17 when I purchased the Phantom II kit !
I've been trying to find information about the 1/8 pocher spokes. Can someone please tell me the diameter of wire needed to make them. I need a set so I was going to make them from wire but need to know what Guage. Thanks for any information and help.
I just found your video, thanks for posting!
I had the good fortune of growing up in italy and loved building models..in 1971 at the age of 11 I saw the phantom sedanca coupe in the front window of GIORNI, the best hobby shop in rome at the time..I had to have it but my mother thought it was too complicated and expensive..later that year she surprised me with it for christmas! It took me 6 months to build, I was allowed only 2 hours a day on the car, but I finished it and actually still have it..in 2 years I went on to build 4 more and 2 that are unfinished! I still have all of them and I display them proudly in my house in los angeles
just a quick note to let you know that pocher is actually pronounced by italians po as in pole and cher as in care with the emphasis on the o in po..anyhow it's a strange name even for italians, from the north eastern town of trento and possibly of austrian origins
all the best!
Wow! Thanks for the great info! I discovered Pocher when I lived in Pordenone, Italy for about two years. Although I didn’t buy one while there, I did when I arrived back in The US!
I heard you say what I’ve also have thought is well it fun to work on the little models when my body says take it easy as you aren’t that young anymore. So I get to play with both
I am in the process of building the Bugatti T50 and the Alfa Romeo 8C 2300. All my extras will come from Model Motorcars. I bought both kits at a store that was closing them out over 20 years ago. Combined, they cost me almost $50 for both kits. Your video gave me a lot to shoot for in building the finished model. Being an automotive illustrator I overdue detail, thus it takes me a bit longer to build but the finished model is worth the effort.
Wow…amazing deal! Thanks for the note!
Doug
Great Video. I always wanted to add a 1:8 to my collection of 1:18s and 1:24s. I'd be more interested in the Rollses, the Merc or the Bugatti in the video. But I am not sure I have all the tools sand parts to build one perfectly. Plus the patience.
Awesome channel. Next level everything! 😮
Thanks so much Shane…I am a fanboy of your channel! Love your sense of humor…I think we could be great buds! I’ll go get a sixer!
Doug
WARNING I signed up for the De Agostini 1/8 GT Ford. I received shipments for 15 months, then in February of this year they stopped arriving and I was still charged. I contacted De Agustoni customer service multiple times over the past several months. They stated my subscription was active and they have escalated the problem. I’ve invested over $1,200.00. Obviously the inventory I’ve received is worthless unless my subscription is completed.
Their website now indicates they have discontinued that model.
It's amazing !
Thanks Daniel. Please subscribe!
David R Lentz, USA
A couple decades past, I almost bought one for round 200 USD (that now seems shockingly low, especially given what I am hearing here) at a local hobby store. I think Pocher/Model Motor Cars yet had been in operation, which may have been a factor, as they were readily available. Had it been some car model I had recognised-a 1920s Duesenberg SJ, Lincoln, Packard, Mercedes Benz, Cord, Auburn, Oldsmobile touring car, or the like-I might have gone for it. It was some sort of old-fashioned racer that to me looked rather like an oversized sausage with thin, solid tyres, so it had no caché with me.
Probably the Fiat…nice model…just very ancient design.
Makes sense accounting for inflations and everything, nowadays a new Pocher 1/8 kit costs about $700 to $850 give or take, I would say it is still worth it though if you have the economic capability, considering that any 1/12 diecast would cost you that much or even higher end 1/18 such as cmc, exoto
I scored a 540K at an estate sale. Incredibly cheap compared to online. We've started building it last Christmas it's now a rolling chassis, and it's gotten my daughter into 3d printing.
Awesome Marcus! Love these old Pocher kits!
Doug
@FullEarthWorkshop easily accessible CAD files and 3D resin printers, may feel a bit like cheating compared to the way it had to be done back when they were new.
But honestly, that would be so beyond my skill set.
Also, scaling and refining a downloaded part engages my daughter over a longer time than bending copper and soldering would.
wow how lucky!
Lovely models.
Thanks for watching. Please subscribe!
Man! I gotta decide if I wanna work on my own street car, or build on of those models. 😳 I’ve been building models since the mid seventies, and owned my first car in 84. I’m torn, whether I should keep on building models, or trying to make my street car a a piece of what I wanted to drive to be an example of how I thought it should be. I had no idea of how model kits have become so advanced. I just keep an eye on what’s happening in both worlds, then struggle to make sense of it. I’m getting older now, and crawling under my car, and maintaining it is getting harder.
Thanks for the note Steven...look at it this way, if you build a really nice 1/8 display model, it will be worth more than you have paid for the parts. Try that with a street rod!
All the best friend,
Doug
Thank you for this video! I own one of the Mercedes 500K model that my neighbor gave me un finish ! I wish I knew someone to finish
Hi Jerry! Jump in and start building! A Pocher is very rewarding to construct! Please subscribe! Doug
@@FullEarthWorkshop I am from Los Angeles if you were anywhere close to Los Angeles I would just give you this model because I don’t think I would ever build yes this thing is too big
Ha! Yes...you might have to build an extension on the house if you build too many! All the best! Doug
@@MrJearley6 I love these big cars like this. wish i had a friend that had one stashed away
Just start building take your time and do every single part very very carefully and take as much time as needed to make it look good and use high end model building glues cements and 2 part epoxy like 10 minute epoxy for the metal parts and for parts that support weight of it, get you a air brush and if you mess up paint you just strip it back off sand down and start again I built one and never built a model before and man it's flawless like it's museum show room quality perfect I ly thing I had done and paid for was to have the plastic parts that was chromed done by someone with a airbrush and metal clad type special paints that is legit metal basically and takes a expert to perfect it to look real and not toyish. But man it's beautiful
Very interesting story...
Crazy but true! Thanks for watching!
My dad, the toy buyer for Kmart, bought out the entire supply Tyco, importing them at the time, had in 1975, after a fire in their Wearhouse, to sell in Kmart stores. Many stories with this. An exec called my dad in and said it was the worst purchase he ever made. My dad told him if there were any left he would personally buy them all. They were bought for a Christmas Promo but never made it. Hobby enthusiast rushed stores and they were sold out in no time. Luckily he brought one for me.
Awesome story Alan…thanks for sharing!
Doug
thank you.
@@FullEarthWorkshop
Believe it or not.. My Dad bought me 4 of these cars before I was born and told me about Kmart having a sale due to a warehouse fire. He gave me one each year when I was 8. I still have them and never started building them. They used to have the plastic on them with a Kmart sticker on them.
That iseat. A building challenge. You must have all 4 that were available@@davidgarner9933
Mi spiace doverla correggere, ma il tizio nella foto, da lei chiamato: "Arnaldo Pocher", è in realtà: "Alessandro Rossi", fondatore della Rivarossi.
Thanks for the information! I pulled that photo from a story on the web…apologies to Alessandro!
I have an old 4wd robbe rc jeep cj7
I"m a long time model builder of plastic kits. I build armor, aircraft and cars . Nothing is better than working with an airbrush, glue ,tools and plastic. But these Pocher models are not worth the money and they're just too big in the 1/8 scale. They also lack much detail in areas and diecast doesn't take to shaping like plastic does! Also since they're basically screwed together it's not real model building!
Hm iv`e seen em truely scaled down cars real engines real gas real brake fluid real transmission fluid real brakes,basicly turn key literally turn key cars for smurfs. Hint me on where to find or just see them,again. ty.
Hi Ty! It sounds like some very cool RC cars I’ve seen…thanks for checking in!
I have had 2 of these kits and they are terrible the parts fit is terrible I can understand why they end up in the closet.
Yes- the quality controls were not good, but with a lot of patience (and scratch building) they can be stunning! The newer Pochers go together much easier, but are not as detailed as the 60s to 80s kits.
OK thank you.@@FullEarthWorkshop
I purchased a Pocher kit decades ago, the 1932 Alfa Romero. It was a complete disappointment, a disaster. Probably the worst kit I've ever owned. In fact I gave it away.
Pocher Classics are very fiddly…the newer versions are said to fit together much better! Thanks for checking in!
I brought on in 1977 was disappointed in the the fit quality of engine parts and packed it away for another day it sat in my attic for years am getting back into modeling in my retirement.
Am 63 I was 17 when I purchased the Phantom II kit !
I've been trying to find information about the 1/8 pocher spokes. Can someone please tell me the diameter of wire needed to make them. I need a set so I was going to make them from wire but need to know what Guage. Thanks for any information and help.