Games Sega Should Be Ashamed Of

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  • @SegaLordX
    @SegaLordX  6 років тому +125

    Remember, these types of content are never me telling you that you are wrong for liking these games. This is MY opinion of these games. We all like different kinds of games. Two of my favorite NES games are Jaws and Rambo, games that are typically panned by all. But I was kid and I put crazy time in them, so it was what it was. It's all for fun. :)

    • @mgodoy-br
      @mgodoy-br 6 років тому +1

      I got your point of view, but my list would be different. The worst game that I've seen in Sega console were Alex Kidd in Hightech World and The Flintstones.

    • @JohnnyMatherson
      @JohnnyMatherson 6 років тому

      ye dont like Gale Racer arrrrrgh!! :O

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +4

      It would have changed everything. Maybe for the better if you took all the personal history out of it. But Sega consoles defined much of my gaming world for well over a decade. I can't imagine not having been exposed to all that goodness.

    • @michaelp6786
      @michaelp6786 6 років тому +1

      Dark Castle was atrocious too IMO.

    • @InsideSmoke
      @InsideSmoke 6 років тому

      You kind of contradict your disclaimer that people aren't wrong for liking these games but Sega should be ashamed for releasing them. people shouldn't feel bad for liking a product that a company should be ashamed of releasing? LOL. haven't even watched thee video yet, going to watch it now.

  • @SEGAEurope
    @SEGAEurope 6 років тому +196

    Hey, no one said being the Batman was easy!

  • @JustinWhangYt
    @JustinWhangYt 6 років тому +249

    How am I supposed to enjoy Altered Beast when the voice doesn't tell me to wise fwom my gwave?

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 6 років тому +55

    I'm really glad that REALLY easy targets like Sonic '06, Sonic Genesis and more weren't included in this video. I always prefer videos where people look into the horrible stuff we HAVEN'T heard bashed by a million people already.
    Also, Sega Smash Pack's emulation of SoR2's music may just be the worst sin ever committed against mankind.

    • @SoulforSale
      @SoulforSale 4 роки тому +2

      Streets of Rage has a soundtrack too good to be muddled.

    • @feederunderground
      @feederunderground 4 роки тому +2

      Maybe because you didn't heard the sound for golden axe, that is the greatest insult to mankind...

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 4 роки тому +1

      @@feederunderground Well, Golden Axe's music isn't QUITE as iconic for me, but granted, the Smash Pack turns a pretty classic soundtrack into a Master System-esque nightmare.

    • @SegaDream131
      @SegaDream131 3 роки тому

      ......
      Consider ATGAMES....

    • @rjsmith2007
      @rjsmith2007 3 роки тому +1

      Those games are 5 stars compared to the trash showcased in this video.

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 6 років тому +80

    Shocked that Sonic Genesis for the GBA isn’t on this list.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +27

      Indeed. I wanted to keep the theme actually on Sega hardware for this one.

    • @Trialwolf
      @Trialwolf 6 років тому +5

      Hope you do a video like this for games not on Sega hardware in future.

    • @JuanGomez-ke5py
      @JuanGomez-ke5py 6 років тому +1

      Ugly duckling of the Sonic port stereo so you can fight Sonic 1 on the PSP is a the on Xbox is available on the Nintendo switch it's on Android it's on it's on the eye is on the iPod and the iPod Touch the Belleville on Kindle Fires the on on the PS2 it's bearable on the original Xbox packaging with Sonic a generation is it play is it playing the Bobo born at this time you're speaking of on the GameCube

    • @johnathonturner2279
      @johnathonturner2279 6 років тому +3

      If only Sonic 06 was an exception...

    • @NeoZ45
      @NeoZ45 6 років тому +9

      @@JuanGomez-ke5py What the heck am I reading

  • @theharvardyard2356
    @theharvardyard2356 6 років тому +30

    Believe it or not I had some fun with Batman Returns as a kid. It was frustrating and I remembered that even then i questioned the controls and level design, but I actually really liked the presentation, as far as graphics and atmosphere. I thought it had a pretty unique dark-and-gritty while still kind of cartoony and stylized look.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +9

      Batman Returns had the unenviable task of following up Batman by Sunsoft for me. I was expecting a game of similar style and quality.

    • @theharvardyard2356
      @theharvardyard2356 6 років тому +1

      I hear you on that, Batman and Robin on Genesis is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Great video by the way!

    • @todesziege
      @todesziege 6 років тому +7

      I still love Returns' soundtrack, never really understood the dislike for the music. The graphics used a pretty unique approach in scanned-in hand drawn art rather than the standard pixel artwork - like many adventure games on computers did at the time - but passed through the Mega Drive's low palette it doesn't look amazing... I always thought it captured the look of the Batman comics of the time pretty well though, and like many games that rely heavily on dithering it looks a bit better on real hardware on a CRT TV.

    • @theharvardyard2356
      @theharvardyard2356 6 років тому +6

      Is that the technique they used? Makes sense, I did think they did a good job capturing the feeling of that era of the comics.

    • @IMO954
      @IMO954 6 років тому +4

      Batman Returns was better on SNES, I was just playing it today on my fire stick

  • @joshjohnson3442
    @joshjohnson3442 6 років тому +26

    This insightful video adds to the proof that Sega was its own worst enemy. With the ad-ons and wanting to outdo Nintendo by trying to beat them to every punch that could be thrown and not producing the promised results put them out of business. Meanwhile Nintendo just stayed on course and didn't do more than it felt like it needed to. Even with Playstation joining the fold, Nintendo never felt like it had to go above and beyond to compete and knew quality of the gaming will keep fans loyal to their brand.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion 4 місяці тому

      It reminds me of how Arnold Schwarzenegger got Sylvester Stallone to star in “Stop or my mom will shoot!” (A total POS) by floating the rumor that he himself wanted that part.
      Nintendo would juke out Sega making them think they were doing something then Sega would bite the fake and shoot themselves in the foot dumping resources into something stupid.

    • @elgoog-the-third
      @elgoog-the-third 3 місяці тому

      Well, it's not like it was all smooth sailing for Nintendo either. If it weren't for the GameBoy line, they'd have gone out of the hardware business at latest after the Gamecube.

  • @adamphillip5305
    @adamphillip5305 6 років тому +16

    I had Castle Of Illusion back then & rented Fantasia thinking it would be on the same level, what a disappointing day that was.

  • @alexandreandrade5365
    @alexandreandrade5365 4 роки тому +5

    Batman Returns on the Master System is amazing, though. I still play it from time to time. Pure fun old school platforming. It can be the nostalgia factor, but I love it.

  • @pdeaky
    @pdeaky 6 років тому +27

    Can tell straight away that the Streets Of Rage 2 music is off on that Dreamcast port! Terrible!

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +8

      There's actually worse deeper in the game.

    • @altfact5179
      @altfact5179 6 років тому +3

      There's messed up sound in all the Sega Genesis collections

    • @Nestalgba92023
      @Nestalgba92023 4 роки тому

      @@altfact5179 Wait what? Including PS2, 3 and PSP versions?

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 4 роки тому

      The inclusion of Virtua Cop 2 entirely validated the existence of the disk though....I used to play that nearly every night in Summer 2001

    • @DesertRainReads
      @DesertRainReads 3 роки тому

      @@Nestalgba92023 nah, the versions in Gen 7 and beyond are pretty spot on emulation wise. Sega Smash Pack Vol. 1 was an absolute rush job.

  • @RolandoMarreroPR
    @RolandoMarreroPR 6 років тому +35

    Batman Returns was an ok game. But it was horrible compared to the excellent Konami SNES version.

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 роки тому +3

      I don't feel the Mega CD game improved it with the driving sections.

    • @OmarOBboss
      @OmarOBboss 4 роки тому +1

      Man I was so sad when I saw footage of Konami SNES game as we didn't have SNES in my country

  • @Sutoraida1975
    @Sutoraida1975 6 років тому +13

    Every time I've seen a so-called "Arcade Selection" or "Arcade Hits" and it was nothing more than Genesis ports - that always frustrated me. The hardware it was made for could've handled the ACTUAL arcade versions. That's why I never bought any of these... It was an insult.

    • @ryzmaker11
      @ryzmaker11 6 років тому

      Dunno about those compilations but said games are arcade games anyway and the Mega Drive has many quality ports or exclusive remakes (e.g. Shadow Dancer) some of which better than the arcade versions so that's legit (even though I understand that it can be annoying for those who expect to get the arcade versions).

  • @KittyMeow1984
    @KittyMeow1984 6 років тому +20

    Sometimes I wonder how much better the Master System port of Altered Beast could have been if Sega hadn't blown half of the 2-megabit cartridge's memory on unnecessary digitized voices (or if they had used a 4-megabit cartridge) to add in all the missing content and bigger sprites.

    • @RetroGamerBB
      @RetroGamerBB 6 років тому +2

      sms had to use background tiles to do larger sprites

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +6

      I think Sega went a bit crazy with Altered Beast. The SMS was capable of great color, so all they really needed to do was adjust sprite size across the board so that it ran smoothly. Something along the lines of the Shinobi engine would have done it justice.

    • @kwkfortythree39
      @kwkfortythree39 6 років тому +2

      Sms cannot show sprites so big without a flickering or character-parts-disappearing fest, unfortunately

    • @KittyMeow1984
      @KittyMeow1984 6 років тому +5

      Or maybe even using tiny sprites like the NES version could have been a good solution too. The NES version was definitely a not a looker, but the gameplay sure was fast as heck (and it even added two extra levels, instead of removing one).

    • @kwkfortythree39
      @kwkfortythree39 6 років тому

      @@KittyMeow1984 this would be the sensible alternative I think.

  • @FlyingDuckMan360
    @FlyingDuckMan360 6 років тому +3

    Sega should definitely be ashamed of Fantasia. It was rushed to tie in with the film's 1991 VHS release, and one of the developers admitted in an interview that it needed at least two more months of development to iron out its flaws. It is the worst Disney game on any Sega system, and a glaring example of a bad licensed game in Disney's long line of normally well-made ones. Believe me, the Sega Genesis was home to some of the most memorable Disney licensed games; Castle Of Illusion, Quackshot, Aladdin, and The Lion King, just to name a few.

    • @Liam3072
      @Liam3072 5 років тому

      Meh, even two more months wouldn't have saved it imo. I mean ,Fantasia entirely revolves around classical music. And the game uses the GEMS sound driver... using that driver for such a game would be like using Kinect to play Sonic 2... it's just not fit for the purpose.

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 роки тому

      I agree.

  • @johns6265
    @johns6265 6 років тому +2

    My copy of Sega Smash Pack is still sealed and I think it will stay like that.

  • @chattingesque372
    @chattingesque372 6 років тому +14

    Altered Beast for SMS was pretty good fun actually, back in the day.

    • @toninhopavan2
      @toninhopavan2 3 роки тому +1

      It was the first 8-bit I have ever seen. And I loved it

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 6 років тому +22

    I enjoyed some of the master system ports. I played the hell out of altered beast back in the day

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +2

      I played quite a bit of SMS portage myself, but a lot of them played really good. Can't say the same for Altered Beast.

    • @SAM-ru4vx
      @SAM-ru4vx 6 років тому +1

      So what regions got the bad SMS ports? Was it only Europe and Brazil?

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 роки тому +1

      @@SAM-ru4vx Which bad SMS ports?

  • @ren7a8ero
    @ren7a8ero 3 роки тому +2

    I heard about fantasia in a interview Tom Kalinske gave to a Brazilian yt channel recently, actually there was a instruction Walt Disney left, to not publish further commercial works regarding Fantasia, but many people in Disney wasn't aware of it until it was too late and the game was released. So, they made an emergency call, pulled back all copies they could and paid Sega for all the games. It being a bad game was just an coincidence.

  • @milesevans1073
    @milesevans1073 6 років тому +8

    "American football", you sir, are right!

  • @ravinnox2640
    @ravinnox2640 6 років тому +35

    Much as I love the master system not even I can defend that port of Alterted Beast. SMDH its just sad.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +3

      It really is. I could have lived with the graphics and sound, but man, that gameplay.

    • @evilinsecticon3813
      @evilinsecticon3813 6 років тому +2

      To be fair to this game - had you not played ANYTHING beyond master/Nes, then this game is actually an incredible port. It could've been better, agreed. But you've already played through the Genesis version.

    • @johnpenguinthe3rd13
      @johnpenguinthe3rd13 6 років тому

      I have to agree with Evil intsection. I loved Altered Beast on Sega Master System, but I didn't play anything beyond a Master System and NES until about three years after I played Altered Beast on Sega Master System. Given what I had during 1989, I thought Altered Beast on Master System was fun and was 100 billion times better than Master System games like F-16 Fighting Falcon (which is the worse SMS game).

    • @ravinnox2640
      @ravinnox2640 6 років тому

      @@evilinsecticon3813 but I hadn't played anything past 8 bit games when I first played this. Still...perhaps its time to go back and take another look at it as its been a few years.

    • @ravinnox2640
      @ravinnox2640 6 років тому

      @@johnpenguinthe3rd13 I can't argue with that.

  • @vasileios6301
    @vasileios6301 6 років тому +7

    Nobody cared for the Sega Smash Pack as we had better emulation choices of all Megadrive games on the Dreamcast back then,its another reason why DC is a beloved console as it was the first console which had many emulators developed on it (thats the only good thing Windows CE offered on Dreamcast).
    Altered Beast on Sms should have followed NES port with small sprites but proper framerate and gameplay.
    I was expecting to see Daytona USA Saturn port among some others,what a a big dissapointment it was that made MANY people choose Psx with Ridge Racer instead.

    • @TheTrueBro
      @TheTrueBro 4 роки тому

      Well, Model 2 was way ahead of its time compared to the Saturn (or probably any other platform back in the day), 3D wise. Ridge Racer, on the other hand, ran on a less powerful system, closer to the PS1 specs, so the differences weren't as drastic.
      Or at least that's what I remember.

  • @SianaGearz
    @SianaGearz 6 років тому +9

    Hey Altered Beast for Master System isn't half bad. You need to try the ZX Spectrum version.

  • @ShadowArtist
    @ShadowArtist 6 років тому +16

    Garbage like the "Genesis 3", Sega Smash Pack and early Emulators with really spotty low-quality sound along with the low-fi sound drivers that many US made Genesis games used contributed to the "urban myth" among a portion of gamers that "Genesis games have crappy sound and music".... *smh* when that really wasn't true at all...

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 4 роки тому +1

      Even most versions of the Genesis 1 and 2 have terrible sound......if only the original wave 'High Definition Graphics' Model 1 sound chip was when Sega used throughout

  • @goatbone
    @goatbone 6 років тому +6

    I can’t imagine how many children had played the Capcom Mickey game and then were given Fantasia for Christmas or whatever and had their hearts broken.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +3

      It certainly broke my heart.

    • @TheFreeToaster
      @TheFreeToaster 6 років тому

      I actually enjoyed Fantasia back then, I would throw it in my rotation of games I would complete in a sitting quite often.

    • @10131337
      @10131337 6 років тому

      Well... for me it was amazing. I always loved Fantasia, the only problem is it's extreme difficulty. Even nowadays it's better than the Great Circus for me.

    • @TheFreeToaster
      @TheFreeToaster 6 років тому

      I never really thought it was any more difficult than most games back then. Things might be hard or seem hard initially, but the game never changes so once you nail a level you're only going to keep getting better at it.

  • @SomeOrangeCat
    @SomeOrangeCat 6 років тому +2

    Crapping the bed "from time to time"? By the time the Dreamcast had been released, Sega had crapped every bed in the house.

  •  4 роки тому

    Anyone knows what is the song starting at 0:14 and ending at 1:04?
    Its driving me crazy searching for it!!!

  • @billcook4768
    @billcook4768 6 років тому +8

    Totally disagree about Dreamcast Smash Pack. Yes, the emulation could and should have been better. But it was still an amazing collection and I played through at least half the games on it, for so many hours of fun gameplay.

    • @DARS_04
      @DARS_04 3 роки тому +2

      We're your ears good? Because the music is a big turn off for me.

    • @DARS_04
      @DARS_04 3 роки тому +1

      They probably just made an emulator for a "one size fits all" approach with their emulation.

    • @sozaj
      @sozaj 3 роки тому +1

      I guess soooooooo... UNTIL THE SEGA GENESIS COLLECTION ON PS2 COMPLETELY BLEW IT OUT OF THE WATER, KICKED ITS TEETH IN, SHOT IT IN THE HEAD, PISSED ON ITS CORPSE AND LEFT IT TO GATHER FLIES IN THE SUN.

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 3 роки тому +1

      The remaster of Virtua Cop 2 alone was worth it. Not sure why they didn't release it as a stand alone in North America.....I had the pack in 2001 and have gotten many years of enjoyment out of my light guns

  • @Sutoraida1975
    @Sutoraida1975 6 років тому +1

    I actually gave Fantasia a lot of effort in finishing it. I played Castle of Illusion, and I think that's what pushed me to play it. The worst, most unfair stage was the last one with the black background and invisible platforms. You really have to wonder what they were going for there.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Yeah, it was Castle of illusion that got me excited for Fantasia. Needless to say, I knew it was a mistake by the end of the second stage. Awful game.

  • @KTJohnsonkidThunder
    @KTJohnsonkidThunder 6 років тому +8

    Yep. Batman Returns for the Genesis was a disappointment. There was a Sega CD version that tried to remedy it with the driving stages, but it fared slightly better.

    • @DesertRainReads
      @DesertRainReads 3 роки тому

      The music was amazing in the Sega CD version, so there is that. But I do agree, Batman Returns on the Genny absolutely sucked.

  • @qjackz
    @qjackz 6 років тому +4

    I wasn't a big fan of Altered Beast on Genesis but I think the Master System version looks pretty decent considering what it had to work with

  • @gradualpull2171
    @gradualpull2171 6 років тому +10

    Altered beast was good. Thank God I had a genesis.

  • @BlownMacTruck
    @BlownMacTruck 6 років тому +5

    Holy crap, that amazing Revenge of Shinobi music is PAINFUL here!

  • @deathswirl
    @deathswirl 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video, always enjoyable to watch. You might want to put a epilepsy warning at 12:31 or cut those parts out of clips in the future

  • @Dorelaxen
    @Dorelaxen 2 роки тому

    The Sega Smash Pack was the only game that I've ever just returned to the store. Bought it new, took it home, fired up Phantasy Star II. 5 minutes later I'm driving back to the store to return it. I'm still absolutely amazed that it was just released like that.

  • @jsttv
    @jsttv 4 роки тому +4

    Whoever did the smash pack on the Dreamcast should of been fired. That was my first reaction listening to the Streets of Rage 2 music.

  • @scythemouse
    @scythemouse 6 років тому +4

    9:13
    "Rise from your crave!"

  • @MartellThaCool
    @MartellThaCool 6 років тому +8

    Congratulate you on getting 10k subscribers

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +1

      Thanks. :)

    • @MartellThaCool
      @MartellThaCool 6 років тому

      @@SegaLordX oh shock!!! 😎😁 So cool to hear Sega Lord X reply to me and it's awesome to hear from you. What's your favorite Sega console of all time? Are you looking for the Sega Genesis classics for Nintendo Switch? 😊😊😊

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +1

      Saturn by a mile. I plan on buying some of the Sega Ages games I do not have a direct equivalent of, like Virtua Racing.

    • @MartellThaCool
      @MartellThaCool 6 років тому

      @@SegaLordX I love virtual racing and Daytona USA

  • @mathewm6294
    @mathewm6294 4 роки тому +1

    And to think that when I was a fourth and fifth grader I used to love Batman Returns on the Genisis. It was that game that wasn't always at my local rental place (The Warehouse, which was like a Tower Records but was also a movie rental place) but when it was it was always a good time.

  • @MrFurious176
    @MrFurious176 6 років тому +2

    I don't remember Alterbeast playing all that well in the arcade either.

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum 3 роки тому +1

    It's a good thing you stuck to the retro stuff here, since otherwise, like 60% of SEGA's releases past the early 2000s would be on here

  • @shahid1296ify
    @shahid1296ify 6 років тому +8

    Sounds like AtGames made that Sega collection for the Dreamcast it was so bad

    • @random_gamer_guy82
      @random_gamer_guy82 6 років тому +5

      I work at argos and got asked about the at sega megadrive plug and play yesterday and told the lad he would have better results and more nostalgia trying to play his megadrive childhood games on his toaster. He bought it anyway. He's probably on ebay this minute looking for a megadrive.

    • @shahid1296ify
      @shahid1296ify 6 років тому +1

      @@random_gamer_guy82 hahaha classic!!

    • @marlonmontelhiggins8570
      @marlonmontelhiggins8570 3 роки тому

      @@random_gamer_guy82 - INB4 someone makes a Mega Drive toaster. 😆

  • @RolandoMarreroPR
    @RolandoMarreroPR 6 років тому +8

    Was that Sega Smash Pack 1 made by Atgames?

    • @thatguy8152
      @thatguy8152 6 років тому +11

      Atgames dream they could get that kind of sound quality

  • @jaekoff5050
    @jaekoff5050 6 років тому +5

    Seriously, did Sega flat out just not test that Genesis compilation at all??!!

    • @supersmashmaster43
      @supersmashmaster43 6 років тому +2

      Jaekoff probably not. By 2001, Sega just didn’t give a shit with some of their lower end games, so I can see them barely putting effort into something as a compilation.

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim 4 роки тому

      Sega Smash Pack came out the same day the Dreamcast was discontinued.

    • @TRJ2241987
      @TRJ2241987 4 роки тому +1

      The Smash Pack was not even a game you could buy separately if I remember correctly, it only came as a console bundle. I remember having to buy it through eBay, back when I hardly bought anything online.

  • @leepit7178
    @leepit7178 6 років тому +8

    Sega Touring Car Championship - Saturn version cannot be missing.
    Daytona USA got pop-up and low frame rate. OK, it needs time to understand the hardware.
    Sega then released Sega Rally, Daytona CC, Manx TT, all of them are great in game play.
    How can Sega make a piece of shit like Touring car?
    The ridiculous frame rate and poor control make it totally unplayable.
    It is the worst game I every tried in Sega Saturn.

    • @johnnycage3673
      @johnnycage3673 6 років тому +3

      I also agree. I bought this blind back in the day because I have played all the other SEGA arcade racing gems and was so disappointed by this (and every Daytona USA homeversion up to the PS3 & 360 versions where they finally managed to do it right).
      The only good thing about SEGA Touring Car Championship is the soundtrack: ua-cam.com/video/VqnV4YUT07U/v-deo.html

    • @johnnycage3673
      @johnnycage3673 6 років тому +1

      @Patrick - I also have all Daytona USA versions and I can tell you all the Saturn, PC and Dreamcast versions are terrible compared to the arcrade original. The SAT & PC versions have aweful graphics and frame rate and the DC game is only playable with a wheel, with a controller it's a completely unplayable mess. When I saw Daytona USA in the arcade in 1994 the graphics and sound absolutely blew me away and it always made me sad not having a decent home version of it.
      With the PS3 and Xbox360 versions that came out in 2011 SEGA finally managed to give us a proper port of the game - and it's even better than the arcade version with it's enhanced graphics and game modes.
      Watch this video and you believe me: ua-cam.com/video/Tv_GQNh9D68/v-deo.html

  • @KevinStriker
    @KevinStriker 6 років тому +1

    1:27
    Any time Sonic picks up a ring, it's like the sound effects from Master System/Game Gear Sonic 1

    • @Liam3072
      @Liam3072 5 років тому

      I think it's because the FM sound chip, that is exclusive to the Genesis, is not emulated correctly, but the PSG, which is both part of the Master System AND the Genesis, is emulated alright.

  • @GoreGraveBass
    @GoreGraveBass 6 років тому +3

    Maybe it was because I was really young, but I loved the Sega Smash Pack. I think I bought it as soon as it came out. The idea of playing older Sega games on my Dreamcast fascinated me at the time. I did notice the audio was off compared to the Genesis titles I owned but I kinda liked it. It wasn't as bad as the AtGames mini console. Sega Smash Pack was my introduction to Shining Force, which is one of my favorite RPG games. Great video!

  • @tlucier187
    @tlucier187 5 років тому

    Been watching a few of your uploads and gotta day you re-sparked my interest in some of these old sega games and systems just watched your sega cd vid and now got me digging through EBay looking For a deal lol, helping the economy one vid at a time!

  • @jeremygregorio7472
    @jeremygregorio7472 4 роки тому +1

    I *like* Altered Beast on the SMS :). As a kid with a Master System back in the day it was great getting to play it and Golden Axe when I couldn't afford a Genesis.

  • @omiglio
    @omiglio 4 роки тому +1

    Batman Returns is actually a good game. Takes patience and lots of practice. Over all, not too difficult. The Sega CD version has a masterpiece soundtrack. Once you get good at this game, it will rival the monotonous beat 'em up Snes version. I beat Batman returns on the Genesis back in the day and I cherish it today. Especially the Sega CD version which added the vehicle levels.

  • @georgeschannel9411
    @georgeschannel9411 6 років тому

    Great video as always. One thing I would add is how awesome 'Stadium cross' was on the arcade! It is clearly the inspiration for motocross championship but the arcade version is miles ahead.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Oh man, they aren't even close. Motocross Championship is a turd in comparison.

  • @seriousstuff8887
    @seriousstuff8887 5 років тому

    Just when you said about the sound being off on streets of rage 2 has anyone noticed how different the sound is on streets of rage 3 on the megadrive collection on the ps4 ? I assume its the same on xbox .

  • @NiGHTS1980
    @NiGHTS1980 6 років тому +1

    We never got the smash pack over here...I really wanted to play VC2 on the DC even though its not the arcade port.

  • @Guernicaman
    @Guernicaman 6 років тому +3

    Some SEGA fan should attempt to remake Batman Returns, Fantasia & Alien Syndrome (which you missed to include the lack-luster Master System version of, btw) on the SEGA Genesis. Also, I'd love to see someone take the Altered Beast graphics & instead make a Castlevania or Shinobi clone-style action game w/the ancient Greek Gods & Monsters theme. It would've been a better solution on the Master System than trying to emulate the gameplay of the arcade game & Genesis versions, that's for sure.

  • @shreknet
    @shreknet 6 років тому +5

    I was a crazy kid. I owned both Fantasia and Batman Returns and mastered them. The music in Batman Returns was awesome.

  • @LusRetroSource
    @LusRetroSource 3 роки тому

    Sega can really piss me off with some of the decisions they've made. That Afterburner Sega CD game was such a disappointment.

  • @jesterssketchbook
    @jesterssketchbook 4 роки тому +1

    i love this channel and youre putting out so much content!!!

  • @Retro90sgamer
    @Retro90sgamer Рік тому

    Not gonna lie! Even the grinch would have gave these games back on Christmas! Great review SLX!

  • @Manquant
    @Manquant 6 років тому +1

    Sega Smash Pack Volume 1 was (subjectively) a good package to me. At the time I was only seven years old and that was pretty much my gateway into the Genesis library. This also sparked my interest in using Sega emulators (like Gens) to play Streets of Rage 2 online with others and games that weren't in the compilation (or my dad didn't own physically).
    Objectively speaking, that compilation does have all sorts of issues in terms of the colors/look and the sound is extremely off to original hardware and other emulators available. Would I recommend this to others? Not necessarily, there's alternatives out there now that blow the compilation out the waters.

  • @bluestreakedladyshe-her8507
    @bluestreakedladyshe-her8507 4 роки тому

    I oddly quite liked the Altered Beast SMS port, but the fact there are no real sprites in the game (maybe outside the HUD or possibly enemies) and eveything is moving background tiles (like Golden Axe on SMS), really hurt it, and hurt the graphical quality since there weren't more colours onscreen than just the background palette.
    Using smaller sprites would have been better, or having characters being made of two sprites instead.

  • @johnv7317
    @johnv7317 4 роки тому +1

    Can you do a video on Games Nintendo Should be Ashamed of in the future please.

  • @jiv3019
    @jiv3019 5 років тому +2

    Batman returns literally made me hate my Sega. The NES VERSION was way better and completely different as was the case with 2 many of their shared titles

  • @BigHairyMarty314
    @BigHairyMarty314 3 роки тому

    Those sound effects in Revenge of Shinobi sound like PC Speaker noises from an 80's/early 90's DOS game. All it needs now is for the music to be turned off and for the graphics to be rendered in 16 colour EGA and it'll be good to go. :)

  • @ok-tchau
    @ok-tchau 4 роки тому

    I still remember when Batman Returns was launched for the SNES. Batman was huge and he had this move where he threw the enemies at the wall in the back of the screen. I was 7 years old and I remember thinking that was the most BADASS game I've ever seen.

  • @leegoderz83
    @leegoderz83 3 роки тому

    Love the channel fella keep up the good work 👍👍

  • @raymxslappedyall3660
    @raymxslappedyall3660 4 роки тому

    oh that noise is supposed to be thabell ringing?

  • @LoveatFirstHike
    @LoveatFirstHike 2 роки тому

    Could you imagine buying a Sega CD for $300 and a copy of After Burner III for $60 .. and then getting something that could have been done on the Game Gear? That’s why game rentals were so important back in the day.. I’d have thrown my CD out the window.

  • @marcusgreene8434
    @marcusgreene8434 6 років тому +1

    Just when I think it couldn't get any better. This by far is the most funniest video you made. Keep up the good work!

  • @samuraigundam0079
    @samuraigundam0079 6 років тому

    Eh, I didn’t mind the sound problems on the smash pack. I was just happy to have all these games that I never had the game to play the first time around. I didn’t think the music sounded that far off.

  • @EpicLebaneseNerd
    @EpicLebaneseNerd 4 роки тому

    it blows my mind to know that altered best arcade edition is so hard to come by, the only time i played it was on the ps3 collection disc, it was so good, at least i play it a lot on my pandora arcade cabinet at home.

  • @Monacomaverick
    @Monacomaverick 6 років тому +4

    I would throw The Ooze, Turbo Outrun, Galaxy Force 2, Super Monaco GP, and Super Thunder Blade in there, too. Turbo Outrun was by far the most disappointing game I've ever played on the Genesis!

    • @ForzaBlucerchiati
      @ForzaBlucerchiati 5 років тому

      super monaco gp? seriously? one of my all time favourite genesis games.I hated Thunder Blade though. awful

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 роки тому

      The Ooze is annoying at times but it has a lot going for it.

  • @bean528
    @bean528 6 років тому +2

    Where was the original Saturn release of Virtua Fighter? That port was shameful, not even much of an upgrade from the 32X port

  • @ncapone87
    @ncapone87 2 роки тому

    I had Sega Smash Pack and even as a 12 year old I could tell the music was off. "In the Bar" in Streets of Rage 2 was one that stood out especially

  • @jacobwickham6962
    @jacobwickham6962 6 років тому

    I had alot of fun playing the Smash Pack. However, I was cranking Ozzy and Megadeth for a whole summer while playing Shining Force, SOR 2, and Shinobi. I never realized how bad it was in the Audio Dept.

  • @dleave431
    @dleave431 6 років тому +6

    I actually liked altered beast as a kid jus saying

    • @smartacus88
      @smartacus88 4 роки тому +2

      He's not saying Altered Beast is a bad game. He's saying it's bad on Sega Master System, the predecessor to the Genesis.

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 4 роки тому +1

      @@smartacus88 Maybe he was talking about the Master System version?

    • @CarlosXPhone
      @CarlosXPhone 3 роки тому

      If you compared the SMS version to the Mega Drive/Genesis version, you'll realise the graphics was scaled down.

  • @TonyFrancis
    @TonyFrancis 6 років тому +2

    Butchering Yuzo Koshiro's music in the Smash Pack should be considered a crime against humanity.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому +1

      I agree. There's no excuse for it.

  • @fruitlion8
    @fruitlion8 6 років тому

    Fantasia was one of my first video games. I actually found the initial level music catchy, likely because I didn't know better. Seeing Mickey die so easily was creepy for young me xD

  • @JohnDoe-ml8ru
    @JohnDoe-ml8ru 6 років тому +2

    The fact that you included Altered Beast in this list tells me you don't know what youre talking about! I loved that game on my SMS as a kid.

  • @Scarflix
    @Scarflix 6 років тому

    Wow I love the Saturn. We just went through and liked all your videos. Top shelf.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Thanks. Appreciate the comment. :)

  • @lightdark28
    @lightdark28 6 років тому +1

    One good thing about the MegaCD version fo Batman Returns is that the driving sections are very impressive, and make good use of the hardware, the music is also better. It doesn't save the rest of the game from being a very mediocre affair.
    One game I would add is Sega Touring Car Championship. While the game itself isn't bad (at least the arcade) , the Saturn port was a poor effort for a 1997 game, not to mention the controls being pretty messed up.

    • @twoheadedthingies5000
      @twoheadedthingies5000 6 років тому

      The Mega CD version of Batman Returns lets you choose to have JUST the driving sections in the options menu, making it a great game after a tiny bit of fiddling.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Sega CD Batman Return's driving parts completely made up for the piss poor action game. I'm not even sure why they included that part.

  • @harrihaffi2713
    @harrihaffi2713 6 років тому

    hmm... Starting to get a itch for railshooters.. How is the support for modern lightguns?
    Ps: Tony’s chocolonely is also fantastic!

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Of the modern rail shooters, the Wii, Wii U, PS3, and PS4 have the best support. The Wii wands and the PS Move controllers are fair substitutes, and there are a number of good games for those systems.

  • @dub2536
    @dub2536 4 роки тому

    I thought that the Afterburner game was on the Master System since its graphics were so bad. To find out it was on the Sega CD reminded me of why I never bought the CD playing device for the genesis. Great video.

  • @airbikecop
    @airbikecop 6 років тому

    The Japanese release of After Burner 3 is way different than the US one. Closer to Strike Fighter music wise, supports that analog Mega Drive controller and the US one supports the six button pad but not the analog pad.

  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion 4 місяці тому

    5:00 I can’t help but feel as though the Japanese executives wanted the Saturn to fail outside of Japan so that the US branch wouldn’t have as much power in the company.

  • @bobskie321
    @bobskie321 6 років тому

    I wonder how difficult Sega Genesis architecture was because even Sega themselves struggles to emulate their own hardware (1:38) how much more for third party like AtGame.

  • @TheTrueBro
    @TheTrueBro 4 роки тому

    I got Sega Smashpack as a gift from a friend, and the first I noticed was "WHY DO THE GENESIS GAMES SOUND LIKE NES?". I mean, I admit I played and enjoyed the compilation (and Sega Swirl was surprisingly fun) but yeah, I understand the criticism on it.

  • @joemel2
    @joemel2 6 років тому

    No cosmic carnage from the 32x?

  • @AlucardsQuest
    @AlucardsQuest 3 роки тому

    Altered Beast on the Master System was so choppy because they used background tiles for everything instead of foreground sprites. While this eliminated flicker, it also decimated animation... And unfortunately, this wasn't the only game they tried that with. Golden Axe MS for example was also a victim.

  • @Guernicaman
    @Guernicaman 6 років тому +1

    Project: Altered Beast on the PS2 should've been included. Considering it came out at a time where all they would've needed to do was create a God of War or Ninja Gaiden clone & failed miserably, they should be ashamed of themselves. You could probably make the same argument for Golden Axe: Beast Rider, but Project: Altered Beast had the original arcade creators involved in it, so that makes things even worse!

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      My vids aren't one offs. I covered what I wanted in this episode. If people like it, I'll do more.

  • @butcherax
    @butcherax 6 років тому +1

    I don't get why games companies knowingly release shitty versions of their best games. Are they trying to ruin themselves??

  • @matrixguardian4539
    @matrixguardian4539 4 роки тому +2

    More like “Faltered Beast”.

  • @stevehandley1
    @stevehandley1 6 років тому

    Yea. Altered beast 8 bit felt like it played underwater

  • @doctorhino8736
    @doctorhino8736 6 років тому

    The really baffling thing is since Dreamcast ran windows ce they probably had a huge array of emulation options and still messed up that smash pack.
    That was when I knew the Dreamcast was dead, that game made me sad

  • @H00ps
    @H00ps 6 років тому +1

    Next episode...Sonic 2006. Nuff’ said.

  • @KorenLesthe
    @KorenLesthe 3 роки тому

    Isn’t Fantasia was made by Infogrames and not Sega ?

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  3 роки тому +1

      Sega of America got Infogrames to develop it for them since they didn't have an internal team at the time. Sega often farmed out their games to small western developers.

    • @KorenLesthe
      @KorenLesthe 3 роки тому

      @@SegaLordX I see, thanks for the info !
      Btw, I love your opening theme but it reminds me a lot of musics from Quintet games on the SNES like Terranigma, Illusion of Gaia (Illusion of Time in Europe) and Soul Blazer ^^

  • @TheWarriorFrenzy
    @TheWarriorFrenzy 6 років тому

    Batman's purple/blue color palettes were overused too. Instead of shades of grey or use of blacks were odd decisions. Ecco, Chakan, Cyborg Justice, and more from that time frame all had a purple look. Then games from Japan like Gunstar Heroes, Alien storm, Streets of Rage series, Golden axe, Ristar, etc had really great color palettes.

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      The stuff from Japan was so much better looking and sounding.

  • @ezehogan
    @ezehogan 4 роки тому

    Nintendo is known for their high quality releases as well as frequent delays in order to fine tune their software. They have their fair share of duds, like Wii Music, but they are quite infrequent. Back in the 90’s I more or less expected this same level of quality from Sega published games. As such, games like Batman Returns really burned as I was expecting something great. It felt even more insulting when SNES owners got a pretty good Konami game based on the film. That said, Sega was considered to be a master of sports games and NFL ‘97 was nothing short of disgraceful.
    Looking back, I feel bad for SOA. They single handedly made the Genesis a contender in North America and it seemed like Sega of Japan was constantly trying to undermine or outright sabotage them.

  • @andreasaristidou2578
    @andreasaristidou2578 3 роки тому

    How the heck they allow Altered Beast to be released in SMS like this????

  • @Death_To_Kong
    @Death_To_Kong 3 роки тому

    Motocross Championship was the last 32x game I ever bought and I couldn’t have been more disappointed. The good news is I only paid $7 for it in the bargain bin.

  • @stepheng8061
    @stepheng8061 6 років тому +3

    You took my suggestion! Nothing wrong with some lols every now and again!

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      It was a good one. :)

  • @filipmartinez1162
    @filipmartinez1162 6 років тому

    I think the Smash pack version of Virtua Cop 2 is just the PC version. They wouldnt have ported the Saturn version to it because the quad rendering wouldnt be compatible w the Dreamcast's architecture

    • @SegaLordX
      @SegaLordX  6 років тому

      Nearly all of the PC games back then were ports of the Saturn versions. Daytona, Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, etc. It was how Sega did things.