The BEST Way to Install a Valley!

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  • @RoofRepairSpecialist
    @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +7

    Let me know which of these 3 methods is your favorite to install!

    • @EstateFlip
      @EstateFlip Рік тому +3

      Been waiting for this video!!! Thank you!!! :D

    • @pastblaster3285
      @pastblaster3285 11 місяців тому

      Open valley .....

    • @ahmedsaleh4363
      @ahmedsaleh4363 4 місяці тому

      ام كمال 😅😅😊😊​@@EstateFlip

  • @tonesmith909
    @tonesmith909 5 місяців тому +6

    Such an awesome technique for installing that open valley, negating the need to cut shingles!

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому +3

    It's great that you give these videos because some people just can't afford a new roof.some people can do it themselves with the use of these videos

    • @rawilliams5881
      @rawilliams5881 3 місяці тому

      That's me. My menopausal butt is going up the ladder.

  • @MaMa-qh4dy
    @MaMa-qh4dy Рік тому +4

    Great comparison. Thank you. I like open valley with copper.

  • @tonymessinajr
    @tonymessinajr 6 місяців тому +1

    this was one of the finest videos I have ever seen... your details were clear and understandable and now I CAN'T WAIT TO DO MY ROOF... this helps me understand more clearly what the job is all about.... if I do the cut valley, do I use tin to line the valley before I put the paper, or after?

  • @terrydarden6165
    @terrydarden6165 Рік тому +1

    That valley installation is amazing and confusing. I am planning on having a new roof installed. This give me information to work with and questions to ask. Great videos.

  • @timbrown9305
    @timbrown9305 Рік тому +3

    This video should have a lot of likes... nice exposure to the possibilities.

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    I've been roofing for well over 30 years been a good trade

  • @ToufikToufik-qe2gw
    @ToufikToufik-qe2gw Рік тому +1

    Oui, merci Maître pour toutes les choses. Merci beaucoup.

  • @phil-spinelli
    @phil-spinelli 3 місяці тому

    well back in the day, when mostly 3 tabs were used, I'm put metal in the valley and weave the valley. that it the best, other then that metal in the valley and closed is awesome too. Great Video btw!

  • @MrMattDat
    @MrMattDat Рік тому +2

    Great video and will definitely help me with some roof modifications I need to do!

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video bro at least the old 3 tabs are gone and people can more easily wrap there head around arcutectual shingles

  • @slydog7131
    @slydog7131 5 місяців тому

    Good video. I saw one video about a particular valley in which a woven pattern was used. The reason is that the valley didn't join two roofs perpendicular to each other but instead the roofs merged with about a 20-degree angle. The thought was that a cut valley in that case would fail.

  • @mendoza59nm-76
    @mendoza59nm-76 7 місяців тому

    Good work thanks for sharing this video I live around the corner from you guys

  • @Badenhawk
    @Badenhawk 3 місяці тому

    Your videos have helped me so much! Thanks a ton! Fortunately I had a hipped roof but i was curious what doing a valley would look like. Seems like open valley is more diy friendly. Cut valley seemed a little less diy friendly but very doable. Woven seems like it would be easy to make it look messy for someone just learning this.

  • @timmclaughlin1787
    @timmclaughlin1787 Рік тому +1

    Hey this is a great video very well done I wish the valleys were longer but to do 3 types impressive. The cut valley wins for me.

  • @wwearmandoma
    @wwearmandoma 8 місяців тому

    Great presentation. Very educational. Thank you

  • @eastside0434
    @eastside0434 Рік тому +7

    A valley that doesn't leak would be the best valley.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      100% the best Roof is the one that doesn’t leak. Aesthetics is secondary in roofing

  • @benshelton43
    @benshelton43 10 місяців тому +1

    Great vid.
    Gotta say I like the woven valley. It looks like art. I sell it to customers as a mark of a roofer's signature skill. But that said, the cut valley does look crisp. Got no use for a metal valley.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  10 місяців тому

      All of them work. I think it’s opinion and what your used to. Thanks for watching and sharing your ideas

  • @renurenovationsllc7780
    @renurenovationsllc7780 Рік тому +4

    Quite a few manufactures spec sheets I have seen actually do not include woven as an approved option valley on architectural shingles. GAF specifically says not allowed. I know MALARKEY LEGACY, which is a thicker shingle, specifies that it does not allow woven.
    As far a open valleys go, my roofing supplier has all the metal roof colors, which is somewhere in the 30’s, I think anything can be matched.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      Ya, I dont think I've ever done a woven valley, but makes sence especially with thicker shingles.

  • @treymanning1077
    @treymanning1077 5 місяців тому

    I agree with your analysis
    Good Video

  • @mkhan6536
    @mkhan6536 6 місяців тому

    Thank you , a great video, I subscribed right away. good luck

  • @jogpe.quintana9909
    @jogpe.quintana9909 7 місяців тому

    Excelent information You Are Number # 1

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    Your work looks great

  • @bobchastek2306
    @bobchastek2306 Рік тому

    Nice. We use the cut method

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    I also like a space for water flow in valley and around skylights exc

  • @ThrowbackPassions
    @ThrowbackPassions Рік тому +2

    6" step back from the starter strip

  • @rudykirsh9113
    @rudykirsh9113 3 місяці тому

    I like the woven valleys best. Then cut valley..

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    I've been putting down time lately not much shingles and was not planned that way just by luck

  • @relaxwithclancy1073
    @relaxwithclancy1073 5 місяців тому

    So my observation about the 1st method is dependent on how hard it rains I think water will seep up under the shingles that are laid over the valley flashing. I could be wrong but that’s my observation.

    • @relaxwithclancy1073
      @relaxwithclancy1073 5 місяців тому

      Don’t get me wrong now…great content I am not criticizing your content just the 1st method that’s my observation.

    • @slydog7131
      @slydog7131 5 місяців тому

      Same case could be made for a cut valley.

  • @rudykirsh9113
    @rudykirsh9113 Рік тому

    I LIKE THE WOVEN VALLEY THE BEST. THEY SEEM TO WORK BEST WHEN THE OTHERS FAIL.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      A differing opinion I like it. I can’t say it’s a wrong way of doing it

  • @cesarmartinez3582
    @cesarmartinez3582 3 місяці тому

    Where can I buy it . Great job

  • @KidFreshie
    @KidFreshie Рік тому +3

    At 2:16 you started to "install your first row of shingles." But then at 3:06 that shingle is gone. What happened? Did you mess up and you weren't supposed to put that first row of shingles down yet?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +2

      Correct, that was a mistake. Thanks for paying stock close attention

    • @KidFreshie
      @KidFreshie Рік тому +3

      @@RoofRepairSpecialist Ah ok, Thanks for clarifying. Love your videos.

  • @wethepeople9412
    @wethepeople9412 2 місяці тому

    The flashing costs extra but is better bc debris collect with other 2 methods if u have any trees nearby.

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    35 years of roofing I've seen so much like running a kettle witch you must know I'm old know lol

  •  Місяць тому

    Voided warrant in all 3 cases

  • @quantaviouswimbley1959
    @quantaviouswimbley1959 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video. So the woven valley. Would that be the easiest way to do the valley? Also would you recommend putting roofing cement under the shingles in the woven valley?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +1

      Good question. I don’t think one is easier then the other. As far as mastic, it won’t hurt, but i always default to following manufacturer instructions

    • @natto_4
      @natto_4 11 місяців тому

      Don't weave architectural/composition shingles. You should only weave the bottom one or two at most. Most manufacturers will not approve the weave for installation practice

  • @kevinoshea9125
    @kevinoshea9125 11 місяців тому

    2nd method: did you trim each valley end of the course of shingles on the upper pitch? If you photographed straight down at the valley, we could get a better look!!

  • @johnnyrocket9372
    @johnnyrocket9372 Рік тому +1

    I am not a roofer in trade. When i replaced my parents roof about 6ish years ago in the valleies i ran ice and water shield, then a strip of 24" alum flashing, then i did a cut valley. I did this because growing up almost every year they had a different roofer come out to work on leaking in the valleies above an addition they had built. I dont know if its right, but it is not leaking.

  • @BlakeRobinson-l1q
    @BlakeRobinson-l1q Місяць тому

    Wats up with ur stagger bro

  • @shawncummings4653
    @shawncummings4653 10 місяців тому +1

    As a 35 year roofer there is only two types of valley I will ever install. My number 1 is w valley metal, and 2 is a cut valley. Weaved valleys are totally ugly, and a point out valley is a leak wating to happen.

  • @dennisbrinkley8613
    @dennisbrinkley8613 6 днів тому

    Which one has the most waste?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  5 днів тому

      The cut valley does. It usually balances out since for the valley flashing you have to buy the valley metal but have least waist

  • @ToufikToufik-qe2gw
    @ToufikToufik-qe2gw Рік тому +1

    OK merci

  • @briansuchoski4266
    @briansuchoski4266 Рік тому

    What about a "cricket"? Can I use one of these methods, along with ice and snow shield?

  • @dl9173
    @dl9173 6 місяців тому

    I'm doing my own roof. I'm using the atlas storm master shake shingles. I live near Detroit michigan. I have a 4/12 pitch going in to a 2/12 pitch. What valley method would you recommend for this ?

    • @Kyle-ys3cv
      @Kyle-ys3cv 3 місяці тому

      No “Hey, great video.” No “thanks in advance for any input.” Just a demand for someone’s time, no niceties. Gotta love it…shocked you didn’t get a response.

  • @JohnSmith-gu6hf
    @JohnSmith-gu6hf 6 місяців тому

    Why wouldnt you flip the row that sits aligned with the flashing such that it is a solid piece instead of the tabs.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  6 місяців тому

      If I understand your question correctly, it’s so that shingle is exposed on the granular side

  • @paul-rc7mh
    @paul-rc7mh 6 місяців тому

    I used to enjoy the woven valley but shingle supplers won't warranty it anymore

  • @compositesquare
    @compositesquare Рік тому

    With a cut valley, how close, and how far, should the cut valley seam, be from the valley? I just had my roof redone two days ago. My cut valley seam, seems esthetically, too far from the valley. It looks like it works. It looks like if them seam was closer to the valley, it would look nicer.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      I would look to see what the manufacturer recommends depending on the type of shingle installed. However I would say anywhere from directly center or a 1” offset. I think direct center looks nicer, however having it offset would allow for better water flow

  • @Cotronixco
    @Cotronixco 3 місяці тому

    I'm not a fan of butting shingles end-to-end with no overlap and installing them perpendicular to the valley just to get a straight line. Sometimes called a California valley, and also used within other valley installation methods. Here in the north, water can get under the shingle, freeze, expand, and move or crack that shingle and the adjacent shingle. The object should always be to divert all water off the slope as quickly as possible, and not retain water or rely on the ice & water shield or the flashing.

  • @danielcook4377
    @danielcook4377 Рік тому

    Is it better to start from shingling the valley first than outwards?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      No, always better to start from a straight end. A gable or a wall

    • @danielcook4377
      @danielcook4377 Рік тому +1

      What about on a hip roof

    • @denverscott37
      @denverscott37 10 місяців тому

      If you're right handed, yes, start at the left and work your way towards the right, absolutely you can start shingling the valley first, makes no difference. You could run straight up the middle and shingle both ways if you wanted to, I wouldn't do that because I hate shingling right to left, but absolutely that can be done.

  • @MrRandysrod11
    @MrRandysrod11 Рік тому

    Do we need to install any metal flashing going down the valley if we are doing the cut method? Or is it safe to do it over felt?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +2

      Just do it over felt, if you want to be safe out a roll of ice and water shield

  • @dreally7029
    @dreally7029 6 місяців тому

    Really like the explanation, but you can see the blow thru (?if correct) with the nail gun.

  • @terrydarden6165
    @terrydarden6165 Рік тому

    Do you have a company you can recommend in the Atlanta GA area?

  • @matthewzinn5291
    @matthewzinn5291 5 місяців тому

    All new roofs are installed with woven valleys. Go to any new or even 10-20 year old neighborhood with original shingles and you will see woven valleys. Raleigh , NC. Area I personally don’t like open cut because that open cut edge will curl after 5 years. That shingle edge is relying on the adhesive and caulking to make that valley watertight. Here’s the easier way to understand it….take a water hose and spray directly on that edge of the open cut, then take it and spray it in a woven Valley… which one do you think is going to be more susceptible to water getting underneath the shingle? Obviously the open cut with the raw edge .

    • @slydog7131
      @slydog7131 5 місяців тому

      And yet they seem to work just fine. That is not a typical failure point.

    •  Місяць тому

      Nope

  • @mikethompson7436
    @mikethompson7436 2 місяці тому

    Close valleys are one of the worst things to come over the border they go down just the the close cut pipeboot rage of the 90's what about that 3" stagger

  • @ItchyKneeSon
    @ItchyKneeSon 3 місяці тому

    Dude, your presentation style is way too similar to Lenny Pepperbottom of Neature Walk. lol

  • @ChrisHall0397
    @ChrisHall0397 5 місяців тому +1

    This is SO wrong in several ways. You were lining up the right side of different courses of shingles (at 6:23+) ! A few butt seems of the shingles were practically on top of nails of the lower course ! WTH Bro ?

    • @slydog7131
      @slydog7131 5 місяців тому

      Those shingles were cut short just to make the demonstration easier to show.

  • @boashna
    @boashna 3 місяці тому

    affrain barkala

  • @Kevinwatches
    @Kevinwatches 6 місяців тому

    So Tamko has a video showing starting on the larger roof/bigger slope, i put their valley install video link below. How much of a difference does it make starting on one roof or the other?
    ua-cam.com/video/I1uzjqXc72c/v-deo.htmlsi=xzv_ntkFBm3kUpUE

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  6 місяців тому +1

      Big or small the concept is the same.

    • @Kevinwatches
      @Kevinwatches 6 місяців тому

      @@RoofRepairSpecialist Thanks for the reply👍

  • @BrianDelaney-e7v
    @BrianDelaney-e7v 7 місяців тому +1

    Your shingle spacing is completely incorrect

  • @amy-joe5772
    @amy-joe5772 Рік тому

    Why do they mispronounced center it is not on center it is called center

  • @coreymclellan
    @coreymclellan Рік тому +2

    2" offset..... you are fired i tear off all your work and redo it!

  • @RobertMorrison-r3o
    @RobertMorrison-r3o 4 місяці тому

    That’s 100 wrong

  • @carlsmith4767
    @carlsmith4767 Рік тому +3

    Don't follow anything this guy doing he has no clue what roofing is.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +1

      I would say you have no clue, but you do look like a wise old man.

    • @carlsmith4767
      @carlsmith4767 Рік тому +1

      @@RoofRepairSpecialist yup I started roofing before they had nail guns

    • @EstateFlip
      @EstateFlip Рік тому +9

      So what's your suggestion? What do you think he's doing wrong? You can't make a comment like that on a short video like this and just not mention what the issue is.. otherwise you just look like a troll.

    • @gusmarokity6482
      @gusmarokity6482 Рік тому +1

      Agree with you. Fourty years roofer. Only use metal if roof too steep. Shingle over metal area lasts much shorter than field shingles and gets dirt under it real fast. For roof contractor is a good way to do it bc faster, but for homeowners not best especially as you see it here.

    • @andyeveritt9003
      @andyeveritt9003 10 місяців тому +1

      in England you dont nail all metal valleys along the sides to allow the
      metal to expand and contract or it splits in a few years especially zink

  • @kodihunt8631
    @kodihunt8631 7 місяців тому

    These videos can't be serious. I have sat here for the last hour and every one of these videos. These guys has called themselves out on their own videos of nailing wrong in the valley. What?

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  7 місяців тому

      Now get off the crack pipe and watch again.

    • @Kevinwatches
      @Kevinwatches 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@RoofRepairSpecialist I been watching videos lately to learn and most videos show the way you did it however shingle manufacture video below show starting on the other side of roof. How much of a difference will this make?
      It's a super quick tampko video showing a closed valley.
      ua-cam.com/video/I1uzjqXc72c/v-deo.htmlsi=xzv_ntkFBm3kUpUE

  • @mcdlb181
    @mcdlb181 8 місяців тому

    Sorry your job site/video is a mess

  • @steevemachine118
    @steevemachine118 Рік тому

    Open valleys are BS. You should never rely on the shingle adhesive nor should you nail in the flashing. The best valley remains the closed valley.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому

      Is your concern on open valleys wind?

    •  Місяць тому

      Depends on roof pitch and shingle thickness

  • @dwightsornberger8916
    @dwightsornberger8916 Рік тому

    He explains the rules of step back and then doesn't follow them. Not a very good example. Also you need paper going over the edge of the metal valley.

    • @RoofRepairSpecialist
      @RoofRepairSpecialist  Рік тому +1

      I’m pretty sure I do, I’m genuinely curios if not, can you call out the time in the video.

    • @thunderpuppyproductions6165
      @thunderpuppyproductions6165 Рік тому +1

      Pretty sure he means around 6:20 or so when you do not appear to leave a six inch setback. Looks almost like no setback.

    • @chadziegler7292
      @chadziegler7292 Рік тому +1

      Dry in goes under flashings always but I noticed the books were shrinking that can work if you know your nail placement come back and do your cuts