The Volcanic: Smith & Wesson's First Pistol
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- The deep beginnings of the Volcanic go back to Walter Hunt's Volitional Repeater, which became the Jennings repeating rifle, which then became the Smith-Jennings repeating rifle when Horace Smith was brought in to improve it. Smith was able to make it more commercially viable than the Jennings had been, but he recognized that the system needed significant changes to really become successful. He had met a fellow gun designer who had similar ideas, by the name of Daniel Wesson, and the two would spend a couple years developing and refining the system. In 1854 they thought it was ready for production, and formed the Smith & Wesson Company.
Included in the original company was a man named Courtland Palmer, who owned the patent rights to the Jennings system. Smith & Wesson's system would probably have been deemed an infringement of Palmer's patents, and by bringing him into the company they avoided legal trouble. The fact that he was a relatively wealthy financier of the new company certainly didn't hurt!
The pistol that S&W started producing was a manually repeating one with a tubular magazine under the barrel holding either 6 or 10 rounds. It was available in the .41 caliber Navy model (note: not actually adopted by the Navy) and the .31 caliber pocket version. In this first iteration, both used iron frames, which were all engraved lightly. The prices were pretty steep, and the guns suffered from some reliability problems and a fundamental problem of underpowered ammunition (the .41 caliber had a muzzle velocity of just 260 fps / 79 m/s). However, they did offer a much greater level of rapid repeating firepower than the muzzle loading revolvers of the period, and gained some loyal fans. In total, just 1700 of the guns were produced before the company went bankrupt, about a year after forming.
To recover from that setback, they reformed the company into the new Volcanic Repeating Arms Company, and sold stock in the new company to generate a new supply of capital. This allowed them to get back into production, and the Volcanic company would make another 3000 pistols, all .41 caliber Navy types, before also running out of money 19 months later in 1856.
At this point, Smith and Wesson decide to move in another direction, and one of the main creditors of the Volcanic company is able to acquire all of its assets and put the guns into production a third time. The name of this creditor? None other than Oliver Winchester. Winchester puts a new infusion of his own money into the company under the name New Haven Arms Company. This company produces another 3300 guns, both large and small frame by 1861. The New Haven company comes very near to bankruptcy itself before finally changing the design to create the Henry repeating rifle. The Henry's rimfire ammunition finally solved the reliability and power problems of the Volcanic, and became the starting point for Winchester to become one of the predominant American arms making companies.
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Ian has the power to summon up any forgotten weapon at will
M I R A C L E O F T H E G U N E M P E R O R O F M A N K I N D!
LOL praise gun jesus; we all just witnessed another gun miracle
Is that a Jennings rifle in your lap or are you happy to see me?
Except the hellriegel and ribeyrolles.
That's a hell of a Stand, what's it called?
Damn O'Driscoll's
It was actually used by Saint Denise police force
*HAHA FOUND YA LENNY*
@@jasonvolkanov3123 they use the Cattleman (Colt SAA), the standard carbine (Spencer 1860) and the double barrel shotgun (Colt 1878)
@@GunsNGames1 About 35% of them have Volcanic Pistols
@@GunsNGames1 i think they've got also the schofield revolver
"Volcanic rocket ball" sounds like a bloodsport you'd play in a dystopian future.
The Rogue Wolf like Mad Max or Fallout.
I'm thinking something in the flavor of dodgeball with rocket propelled balls that shatter upon impact, dousing whatever it hits in a flaming, pyrophoric liquid.
Yeah I was thinking of guys wearing ferrous plates and slinging magnetic grenade/rockets at each other. If hit, the grenade would magnetize nose first and would fire up, pushing the player away from his team before exploding with a napalm or thermite filler.
yeah it is, well I'm going to make it be
what happens is there are 4 8 man teams in a battle starting on the edge of a volcano and they are all using jetpacks and the objective is that you have to hit the other guys jetpacks with large metal balls to make them fall into the volcano and there is nothing to tell which team is which until all but what is left of one team remains and they will be alerted by a loud siren then the game controllers will cause the volcano to start erupting and give the remaining players time to escape before the eruption
there are no foul moves and to force players over the volcano there are explosives that activate 10 seconds after the match starts on the edge of the volcano and there are dudes on anti-aircraft guns that will shoot down anybody who flees the arena
Arsenic Poisoning damn that sounds more like a game youd see on deadman wonderland than any kind of future where keeping a population secure is an issue
*Summons a rare antique rifle from his crotch*
*Says a little history*
*Puts it back like it was no big deal*
This is no random guy, this is Gun Jesus we're talking about here. This is NOTHING for him.
He turns water into gunpowder
It's its natural habitat!
Gun magic
@@chaseembrey6750 top quality joke, much appreciated.
If you can't shoot yourself in the head successfully with the gun, It's probably not very effective.
-Ian McCollum 2017
Yeah. Obviously Ian had showcased many underpowered guns in the past. But to have a gun that is confirmed incapable of killing the user is a new one.
So this is the "less-than-lethal" option of the old west
Well, they could always bash their heads in with it if all else fails.
VallenChaosValiant too bad no one tried to shoot themselves with a Kolibri... that thing looks less-than-lethal for even squirrels
SSSSH!! For the love of *** Don't let the authorities know a non killing gun can be built! Mind you as a Gallery Gun, they are probably just right.
Well these are much more effective in Red Dead than they are in real life
This Dude so basically the shell of a volcanic with ammo that works properly.... that sounds like an interesting thing to try and engineer...
I love the gun in the game i don't know why but i feel like im a civilised cowboy and i feel like it really accurate
@This Dude Honestly after reading that in game I find myself occasionally thinking "what if they chambered it in a high power rimfire cartridge?" That is a peice of alternate history that could really have quite a large effect.
But, the Schofield revolver is significantly better, you can by valentine by robbing the side buisness
Well, in game explanation makes sense, there are cartridge volcanic replicas
Another great quote: "This could be a very intimidating weapon, if you don't actually have to shoot someone with it."
It would probably still sting pretty good. Not what I'd want to bet my life on but being on the wrong end would still kinda suck.
@big ian lead poisoning never looked so stylish
Blows my mind how many of the major gun company founders worked together at some point. So friggin cool
At least that did because the gun wouldn't have done that.
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
😂👍
He shot himself in the head several times... was found alive and depressed.
Not a ringing endorsement!
If you look at it from the suicide prevention standpoint it's promising.
twistedyogert not really cause then theyd just do it with something else if they were actually that determined to kill themselves
@@gcart7675 I guess that's true.
If each of these guns could tell its own life history... I'm sure a mix of exciting adventures, combined with years napping in a drawer, ending with "then some awesome guy was holding us in front of a camera and describing us on the "internet", whatever that is..."
I imagine a musket or arbiques saying "BACK IN MY DAY WE DIDNT HAVE YOUR NEWFANGLED IRONSIGHTS OR RIFLING! WE HAD BAYONETS AND SMOOTHBORE."
AND WE LIKED IT.
The wear on the toggle link of that one makes me think that it was used a lot.
Or in the case of the gun from Ian's story, "My owner tried to use me to commit suicide. I wasn't powerful enough to work so they sold the gun back to the shop."
Jay Massengill don’t forget “while a bunch of people commented about how they knew it from a game called red dead redemption must be one of them children’s board games”
Video games aside, the story about the suicide attempt is fascinating and upsetting. Glad the family was able to help him realize some reason to keep carrying on (hopefully that's what happened). Pain, physical or mental, can seem worse than death. Stay safe and don't be afraid to open up to those around you, you aren't alone.
Luckily he chose this "gun" so he wouldn't die
Imagine trying to take your life and the gun just says “Nuh uh”.
These are just beautiful pieces. Modern weapons are designed to look “tactical”. But these are just completely gorgeous and aesthetically pleasing.
Modern weapons are designed to work, not look tactical, and this gun sucks no matter how it looks
@@lapulga9000old aks are designed to work, modern weapons are often not a whole lot more than a pile of holey plastic
@@lapulga9000I’m pretty sure all guns are designed to work. Maybe except hi-points. Guns are also made to look cool and tactical. Idk why this is a point of contention
@@Brandelwyn Its ironic given how hard its been for countries trying to moderninze the AK with a lot of inherent issues due to the design, with complete redesigns being the way to go instead of keeping it the same.
That's slow enough that you could literally watch the bullet flying, that's slower than many air soft guns.
Now I want to see if fired terribly, you could probably dodge the round
.31 caliber Volcanic=first airsoft gun
Haha was gonna say my airsoft m4 has more than double the fps of this lol
ironically, air rifle is slightly better than this in that age.
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@@spyj1900 Interesting enough, that air rifle is about 70 years older than the Volcanic and still produces better numbers.
Ikr
I have a bb mauser c96 clone that does 300 ish fps with c02
Moral of the story: instead of continuing to throw money at making your product which no one wants just because you think there's promise in it, fix its damn issues.
farmerboy916 Hence the L85a1
I was thinking Goverment's do it all the time.. Now called Blue Sky Thinking, but hey when you do it get it right, all involved made money.
Companies to this day dont take this advice
Bethesda wants you to stop talking lol
EA, DICE, Disney, 95% Of Hollywood here are some modern examples for you
I'm so glad you did a video on these. The first iteration of S&W is relatively unknown, but deserves to not be.
Smith, Wesson, and Palmer. Sounds like a band name.
Smith, Wesson, and Palmer, "Volcanic", live at New Haven
From the sound of it no chance of Dead!
Better than the band "Darmok and Jalad" at Tanagra
Will Smith, Mel Wesson & Robert Palmer colab. I can't really put my finger on how it would sound but it'd probably be a combination of Fresh Prince - Summertime, Hans Zimmer - Inception soundtrack and Palmer - Addicted To Love. A weird combo between mid 80's pop/rock, early 90's hip hop and ambient music. I've heard DJs play weirder combinations tbh.
Sounds like a Western Sitcom to me.
Watching this video I got this image in my head of someone standing there with a volcanic and repeatedly shooting someone, with the victim going "Ow, Ow, OW...stop it....Ow..."
I'd like to assume as well that they're just kinda mildly swatting at the wounds as well, like they're bees or wasps, not a deadly firearm :P
😂😂😂
@@drownsinkoolaid4203 "deadly"
Karl Olson “CALL YOUR HITS!” Lmfao
@@ILikeToLaughAtYou NO RAPID FIRE IN BUILDINGS!
It is absolutely incredible how almost literally everything the henry had is already there on the volcanic. That all was done so much earlier and all they were lacking was the cartridge.
The big advantage of a gun like this seems to be: it can be intimidating for anyone who doesn't know it and if somebody steals it from you and tries to kill you with it: muahahahaha
Diabolical
thinkin you're immortal as little blood dribbles down your forehead from the shot then he dies of shock
First time I saw this weapon was in Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood. It was so different from the rest. Literally unforgettable.
I've been a fan ever since
You ever play gun?
@@jayvalle50 not him but i did.
Gun on Gamecube for me. I had seen it on History Channel's Tales of the Gun before that
Funny how in the game Red Dead Redemption 2, the Volcanic pistol is the most powerful pistol.
I like the Volcanic. I hipfire my LeMat and swap to the Volcanic. Both loaded with Express rounds.
Read the discrimination it says its a heavily modified version
@@wehweh3 le mat reload is too slow for me, I use a volcanic in my right holster and a double action or scofield In my left
Schofield is better and looks cooler imo
@@4skintim962 it's not better. Volcanic two-shots in the body, shoots faster and holds more bullets. It's the best pistol, by far
I remember using these in fistful of frags
Good times
community's still going, and bhops been reintroduced (sorta)
*pastor whiskey
KenCab117 *URRRRPPPP
Pass the whiskey
Red Dead Redemption man
I wonder what other weapons Ian hides under that desk.
Ｊｅｋｋｔ he doesnt hide them. He makes them materialise out of thin air.
A man breaks into ians home late at night. An ian wearing pjamas appears at the top of the stairs unarmed. With a snapping of air, and the smell of brimstone, a lever action antique rifle appears in ians waiting grip. He sights down the barrel.
A weapon to surpass Metal Gear
He just opens up the weapon wheel and picks whatever one he wants
the safest gun in the world, even when it fires it can't kill someone
Henry could definitely repro this in 22lr
That actually might seriously wound someone
I want one in .38 Special
.22 magnum would be nice.
@@julesmcgrules3860 I agree. This gun would be great in .22 magnum!
Or .500 S&W Magnum...
-"how's that score you stole from us?"
-"which one?"
It's a trap
LoL, 276 fps, that's less than many GBB airsoft pistols.
I'm fully aware that there's more than FPS to a bullet, the weight affects the kinetic energy and it takes much more energy to propel a heavier bullet at the same FPS as a lighter one (and airsoft BB's are very, very light). I was just reacting to the unusually low velocity of the gun.
Yeah, the idea of an actual lead-thrower having a longer travel time than my backyard fuckabouts pistol is a bit astonishing.
Thomas Andersson my cheap springer shoots faster
@@avshutsach mine too
My m4 airsoft shoots at over 400fps lol
Honestly, I kind of want to see what a modern rocketball cartridge's ballistics (using modern powder and maybe entirely copper instead of lead) would look like
farmerboy916 poor in all likelihood
SgtKOnyx I mean they won't be great, but they could potentially be decent. If you switched to something a bit tougher like brass and lengthened the skirt a little, used a pretty strong modern powder (keeping in mind that even the first single base powder was 3 times more powerful than black powder), then laquored the back instead of cork, you could have a marginally useful caseless cartridge I suppose. Still have to deal with extraction, but I think that'd be the lease of the issues
farmerboy916 It kinda just turns into a short, weak version of whatever caliber it is. Since modern ammo could use the same powder after all.
I admit it'd be a cool novelty, just not a practical choice overall.
SgtKOnyx Some people are obsessed with caseless, so it'd appeal to them at least.
I'm just wondering if you could reasonably make it have the same case volume/ length as whatever it's supposed to be mimic-ing, essentially just making it pseudo caseless ammo. On the other hand most cartridges are not as high pressure and as hot as they could reasonably be, having a lot of filler or lower power powder, so you could presumably upload a great many without the same case capacity.
its called caseless ammo
This is why I love your videos Ian. As soon as you said .44 rimfire I made the connection to the Henry rifle and realized that except for the longer barrel and rifle stock the two look exactly the same. I never would have made that connection before. Thank you so much for your work!
"Ultimately the solution was to build a hospital ship."
Or, you know, stop building in the direction of the super-infectious death house and then getting offended sick people exist near you.
Crazy talk.
This is relevant today
7:55 I want this quote on a t-shirt. This is going to be my new life mantra.
So I think a Volcanic pistol in .44 Henry would be interesting. That, or a Volcanic repro in .22 LR.
Yes I would like one in 22lr very much! - Or a look a like semiautomatic. lever cycling the action, for first round.
I think it would be easier to reproduce ammo for a volcanic, than to manufacture 44 rimfire.
He said .22lr. I think the OP is meaning for those later versions chambered in 44 rimfire, thus keeping the mechanism the same.
I was saying that it would be fairly simple to make a swaging die set for 41 rocket ball. The assembly of the other components would be time consuming and tricky, but less so than making forming dies to make 44 rimfire brass.
GunFun ZS: You are right, what would be interesting would be to take it next stage (The Henry Rifle mechanism which uses the same action and magazine) and make a .22 long rifle (Or better still .22 Winchester Magnum RF) "What if" Henry/Winchester/Volcanic hybrid .
A reproduction in 22lr would be awesome! I'd love to have that in my collection.
Came to this video again because of Red Dead Redemption 2.
CK funny how the gun actually kicks ass in the game
@@evildoctortaco It was a decent early game pistol honestly. I'm going to buy first game again and play the shit out of it before I move on to 2
Same here
it would be better to play 2 and then move onto 1 as it’s part is a prequel and perfectly sets it up for the original lol
Same
It would be cool if Henry would make a modern version that uses cartridges.
Yes please.
glad you leave these older vids up, it's pretty comfy too see 'em again!
*Gun in Red Dead* "This gun is so awesome, I want one!"
*Gun in Real Life* "Whoa! This is worthless."
9 dislikes... 1 for each time that man shot himself in the head and survived
The tenth one didn't even fire and jammed the gun. Fukkin' lul.
132 now, guy was depressed, but dedicated.
Wait, that means that the Jennings video from two days ago was the stealth prequel to the Winchester Lever Action series? I wasn't expecting that!
I also did one on a Smith-Jennings a while back. :)
A surprise, but a welcome one to be sure.
Ooh, I hadn't seen that one! Thanks.
I just thought I'd let you know, Ian, that you're a national treasure. In fact, you're a treasure of several nations. Keep up the good work!
I'm glad you're revisiting these!
I'd also like to say that as soon as I'm financially able, yours will be the first channel I support in that way.
Red Dead redemption !
My brief play of that game brought me here. :)
Funny that the pistol was so underpowered in real life haha, it was a pretty damn powerful pistol in game!
Mellisco sounded so badass too
POW *KTCH*
I'm here because of the PS2 game 'GUN'
I believe its called a Volcanic pistol because of the massive hammer. Vulcan was the roman god of fire and metal working, and was often depicted with a large hammer which he used to forge with. I believe someone must have made the connection between the two at some point, and coined the name Volcanic Pistol
Gun was a good game.
"I see you already met Rudibough. This is JJ Webb, my other right-hand Man."
@@hanxjorgensen1386 "this is for jenny"
Great game.
@@qiff6667 Lenny, this is for Lenny.
Thanks for all your hard work and research Mate. Its refreshing to me how your so knowledgeable on the subject and yet v humble which makes your channel a joy to watch
I find the development of the lever-action to be particularly interesting and indicative of the true nature of technical development in general. It often takes quite a few failures and iterations to get at anything truly innovative.
My dad worked at S&W before he retired, and they would have a family day where they toured the factory and had a picnic. They have a display old guns and one of them was an original volcanic with a really low production number like one of the first 10 made. I wonder how much that one costs?
More than most of the people there are worth, I'd assume.
I'm glad I watched this volcanic video!
It was like a college class with all the details of a very important time in firearm history! I grew curious about it while playing Red Dead Redemption 2 (a video game)... way cool!
Shooting oneself several times in the head seems like a pretty...hardheaded thing to do.
Most accurate and powerful handgun with one of the biggest magazine counts in Rdr2.
At the expense of rate of fire.
Totally worth it, salt and peppered a pair of them Blackened Steel and Iron, with engraved inlay of the opposite metal type on each.
It's beautiful.
I love how he just pulls a huge rifle out from underneath the table.
"this is a very intimidating weapon... if you don't have to shoot somebody with it"
Great in depth video. Especially liked the diagram and explanation of the "rocket' ball. After the the introduction of rimfire cartridges, were any Henry pistols made(either prototypes or commercial) or were only long arms made?
The Henry was only made as a rifle.
7:16 that is a PR nightmare if someone can walk up and claim they couldn't even shoot themself point blank with whats supposed to be a deadly weapon XD
Such an entertaining and teaching video. Ian's humor is great.
I really love the history behind the gun stories. I'd listen to an audio book by Ian of just those. *nudge nudge :)
Amazing! The Volcanic is like finding a missing link to both S&W and Winchester designs. Always love it when i can actually learn something from YT instead of just mindlessly wasting my hours! ;)
Disappointed that they do not shoot magma, false advertising on the word "volcanic"
Hi Ian, you are really a specialist! best gun reviewer alive! its so interesting to watch your stuff. everytime you bring in something totally obscure, or something commercial but in any kind production version. you are impressive! btw the rainbow colors in the korth handgun are from flame / point hardning the slide.
My dad had a cologne bottle that was like... It was THIS gun. I always thought it was some kind of over under two shot thing. Now I know... Now I know why someone modeled a bottle of cologne after it as well.
Edited to clarify:
The .31 caliber pocket model.
Ironically, mine had a cologne bottle also shaped like an old pistol too, the Derringer.
@@claudewinchester7068 Mine had that too. The silver foil was peeling every so slightly.
You kept that in excellent condition, I LOVE TO SEE THAT
The volcanic, a forgotten weapon
People who play rdr2:
this, the jennings videos and the volcanic video need to be in the Winchester Lever action Development playlist
I actually see some promise in this design... There could really be a market for these things in 2019. I'd like to invest in producing a few thousand more of these weapons without making any changes whatsoever to the ammo or design though..
You'd probably need to make alterations due to modern "gun safety" legislation potentially making the longer barrel variants into a blackpowder 12gauge Assault Carbine "Cop Killer" or some moronic shit ngl.
@@grimtv3218 I don't see why, the Henry rifle uses almost the exact same system and reproductions are very popular nowadays.
This video was a long time coming I can tell... thank you!
These were in the game Gun.... pretty good mid-game gun if memory serves me well
It was second best pistol, best ones were set of two Colt Navy revolvers.
Thanks for the history lesson! Very much appreciated
Was watching Red Dead Redemption 2 videos and this gem from Gun Jesus popped up.
With Smith, Wesson, Winchester, and Henry all in the mix I was half expecting to hear Colt and Browning thrown in this story. Fascinating bit of history!
Whenever I see that action...elegance.
I love when the first attempt at something is a terrible abject failure but it leads to an overwhelming success. The first Colt revolvers are another good example. The Patterson worked great on paper and it worked fine in real life provided you didn't shoot it much, carry it much, let it get dirty or and we're sure to handle it delicately. The Walker revolvers were ok as long as they didn't explode. The later revolvers though, were incredibly reliable and successful.
Wonder if this video will get a boost in views cause of this gun showing up in Red Dead 2
Red Dead 3* (red dead revolver was the first red dead game)
But not a redemption game m8
Lever-action caseless ammo is a combination I never expected to see, but I'm very happy it existed
Is there any chance you'd be able to get some rocket ball ammo and do some shooting with these guns? I'd really like to see you review its performance.
How is it this guy doesn’t have his own show on PBS?! How is it I only found his channel today?!
3:25 that $10,000 would roughly be $320,000 today that was crazy money then
This video shows up in my feed the same week Im playing Red Dead redemption 2 and watching related videos. I dont know who is connecting the two, but well done. The same thing happened with Battlefiled 1 and 5 and thats good.
Lots of information here. Start-ups are always risky propositions.
Volcanic... Volcanic never changes...
I suspect the price of said guns will rise after this video.
amin johari I don't know about that. These guns are pretty widely known already.
The Waifucopter I know, I was just kidding. 😁
I mean you joke, but Ian is no doubt a rather valuable source of publicity on RIA/Julia/Etc.'s part.
Because there are so many??? Dumbfuck
"Primer compound, Mercury Fulminate."
-Immediately thinks of Heisenberg in Tuco's apartment-
a 13 minute intro. I would not have listened from anybody else but Gun Jesus
I have finally acquired a small frame 6 inch barrel volcanic pistol, its just the coolest thing ever
Gun Jesus has the power to materialize guns for his videos out of thin air! ALL HAIL GUN JESUS!!!!
Brownells UA-cam channel just uploaded a 'From The Vault' video on the volcanic pistol from Rock Island. I was glad this video was recommended! Waaaay more informative.
Modernize that tool.... Make Volcanic pistols great again!!
Fabulous inflection point in the development of US firearms.
$10,000 in 1860 is about $290,000 today, and $40,000 would be about $1,000,000+ today. For anyone wondering.
For a gun manufacturing company that is a great deal!
This is literally my fav video from y'all I've watched so far
I was in love with this gun in "Call of Juarez"
Never thought one of my favorite pistols was the reason one of my favorite rifles came to be
I dual-wield these in Red Dead Redemption 2, one in gold, the other in silver. I call them "The sisters".
Same here but they are both gold with snakes on their pearl grips.
"Careful, kid. Youll shoot your eye out"
Poly-Rhythmic Octopoid not if it’s in .31 cal😂😂😂
both of mine are gold and silver plated and has the scorpion on the grips. cuz im a scorpio lol
same, but i always use blackened steel with gold inlaid engravings and ebony grips.
I have come late to your channel and this is a fascinating piece of history. I didn't realize that the Winchester repeating rifle action was invented by Smith and Wesson. I have always attributed it to Henry. Thanks for this one.
Im scared. Not knowing how many giant rifles he just has there. Sitting under the table.
always good to see the rose of new england represented on an item of historical significance. always knew my hometown had a connection to S&W but seeing it stamped in iron is tres cool
Was just shooting people with this gun on Red Dead Redemption
Wow these are brimming with history!
Next time royal armories in Leeds can you please take a look at the Rieger pistol, Its a really cool and rare austrian manuely repating pistol from 1889 with a Rotary magazine. I only know two examples one in Sturgess colletion and one in Leeds. Would be realy if you could do video one it.
That does sound rather interesting, very early transitional from revolvers. You can imagine where they got the idea
farmerboy916 Yea the 1887 schulhof pistol of course
I love the look of these, I remember using them in call of Juarez bound in blood. The brass ones are just super cool.
"I'd let to return this gun."
"Oh what happened?"
"I can't kill myself with it."
I believe that they are still better than today's many modern day gun's. 👍👌