Anything that Disney touches now is pure garbage including Star Wars. They should stop trying to push an agenda and just make a good movie. It's mostly men that go see Star Wars and when you alienate them you're going to lose money. The 1 that said "I enjoy making men feel uncomfortable " should be fired for ruining the franchise
Your video is perfect, I really like what you're saying, specially at the end. The greatest sin of Disney SW for me is the disrespect of the original universe created by Lucas.
Since they announced the new movies would be once again centered on Rey, they really have learned nothing. Disney would rather lose money than change. That might be baffling to sane people, but the evidence is there that is in fact what they are doing. And I stopped watching the Mandalorian precisely because I did not understand what was happening and learned you had to watch Boba Fett, which I did not want to do.
Controversial opinion: I think Rebels should be retconned too. That show made the Empire unforgivably incompetent and got rid of the vileness Maul had in the Clone Wars.
That's not really controversial, Rebels is mediocre at best. Just recanonize the EU while changing the weaker aspects like the overuse of superweapons or the wishy washy references to the Clone Wars. OG Tales of the Jedi, KOTOR, the Darth Bane trilogy, Darth Plagueis The Republic comics, the 2003 microseries and CWMMP novels, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, the first Force Unleashed, the X-Wing novels, the Thrawn trilogy and Hand of Thrawn duology, the NJO books and the Legacy comics should be the blueprint on where to rebuild Star Wars.
Just as Disney's SW stuff needs to be purged from existence, or at least canon, so does Legend of Korra, which ruined the Avatar The Last Airbender universe.
@@trevturp6891 The OP says that The Legend of Korra ruined the Avatar UNIVERSE. Learn to read before asking dumb questions. The changes done by that show to the lore, the spirit powers and whatnot did indeed ruin a lot of the pre-established rules. Also Korra is a shitty character in comparison to Aang.
First thing Disney did after buying Star Wars was cancel the Clone Wars.... first major mistake, replacing with Rebels, which was inferior. They realized this was wrong as they brought back characters from Clone Wars into Rebela, and returned the series for one more season and created spinoff Bad Batch.
@@TreasonousTakes Not gonna lie, everyone who ever expected him to even be able to save Star Wars clearly overestimated him. Even his golden child, "The Clone Wars", as good as it was, still had flaws (like the obvious pro-republic bias) and unnecessarily retconned much of established Canon just for a quick story that's finished within 1-2 episodes. In truth the expectations of Star Wars fans declined ever since George Lucas left, and nowadays some people start crying when the see a 2 minute cameo from Luke or Anakin in a series and call it "peak Star Wars" just for that. Its not just the Star Wars brand that died, its also the fanbase.
they totally alienated the group of fans that made star wars and kept it alive during the late 80s into the late 90s gen x males . they are never getting us back
Dude, I'm Gen Z and grew up on The Clone Wars and Prequels. Once I saw Rey beat Kylo Ren, I had a bad feeling about where it was going. Then after The Last Jedi, i was done. They won me back with Mandalorian Season One, lost me for good with Season Three.
It would be wonderful if Disney sold Star wars. The company that gets the rights needs to eliminate all politics, race and LGBTQ crap from the movies since the only goal should be to make a great movie with good characters. If an actor who fits the role happens to be gay that is completely fine, but he shouldn't be hired because he is gay but because he fits the role. A way out is a trilogy about the Old republic with Darth Revan as the main character. He has a similar path to Anakin Skywalker, becoming a Sith after being a Jedi and then becoming a Jedi again. Then you can have standalone films about Malgus, Nihilus and Sion. If done correctly those films will restore the franchise and then the sequels can be remade taking into consideration George Lucas' plans.
I still haven't seen the last sequel. The Last Jedi pretty much killed off whatever faith I had in Disney. As soon as I heard the director say something about "subverting expectations" I knew the whole franchise was going in the opposite of the right direction. Fans of franchises like the Star Wars Universe don't want their expectations subverted, they want them met. Giving them the opposite of what they expect just pisses them off. Rian Johnson was a terrible choice of director for a Star Wars film. J.J. Abrams was exposed as a talentless hack, yet they bought him back. I would love to watch a good Star Wars movie/show, but my expectations are so low now I can't justify a Disney+ subscription. The only medium where Star Wars is still alive is gaming. The gaming industry still manages to put out some decent stuff, probably because they have much less oversight from Iger, Kennedy, and their idiot flunkies. A good way to resuscitate the franchise would be to basically take the scripts from KOTOR 1&2 and SWTOR base game, make them as movies for KOTOR and TV for SWTOR, and DO NOT change a fucking thing about them. Hire the original writers if you can. Those three games are a potential gold mine of good writing, plot and characters. They are also thematically consistent, linked, and have a defined chronology. The only way to fuck it up would be to try and make them better, try to "broaden their appeal", or try and "modernize" them. The only way to make Star Wars work again is to give the original fans what they want. Get them excited again and word of mouth will spread. That's how it got big in the first place. If the true fans aren't liking it there's no way it's going to get the attention of a broader audience. Disney has it completely backwards in that regard. It's a simple concept they cannot seem to grasp, but perhaps someone else could.
Likewise. Having been a Star Wars fan since 1977, after being disappointed by "The Force Awakens" and "The Last Jedi," I skipped "The Rise Of Skywalker." I did like " Rogue One "
And why do all these recent movies have to be filmed in gray and white and CPU tone? Don't they realize we like to see colors the first prequels or at least enormously colorful. They could be watched with the sound down and still be entertaining. A solo story was nothing but people in black and gray outfits fighting in gray ships on white backgrounds around white mountains or gray. Misty areas it put me to sleep. It was like watching a movie that was a fog
The Finn thing is weird. I bought the Force Awakens Falcon and it featured Finn not Rei. I get the feeling he was supposed to be the Luke of this film.
In order to truly save Star Wars. You cannot selectively choose Obi Wan Kenobi, Solo, Mandalorian Season 3, etc... You must make it so that it is fair regardless of the show. This mean The Clone Wars animated series as well because Dave Filoni contradicted a shit ton of lore from EU. Not to mention ruining characters like Quinlan Vos. Star Wars need to set an order. This mean that the new writers should read/watch the previous authors work so they understand the characters and lore. If this isn't done then is pointless even if you cherry pick the poorly written shows/movies. Somebody newer is going to writes/directs however he/she wants to because there is not any check and balances. Those writers/directors will probably going to fuck it all up just because they want to tell "their" vision of their story which does not have anything to do with the lore and continuity of Star Wars. By the way, George Lucas even care about EU. He did read some of the comics not all but some. Aayla Secura, Coruscants, Jedi Code and many more. He make a strict guideline, Vader and Obi Wan didn't meet each other until their fateful duel onboard the Death Star. Writers/Directors making such movie should adhere to it. Right now Disney couldn't give a crap about Star Wars so they just hired any talentless morons to direct their parody. Still can't believe scene like Kenobi hiding Leia underneath his trench coat was directed, edited and approved for productions. That shit was freaking hilarious.
The EU doesn't "save" Star Wars... that's way, way, way too much boring text, for anybody to read and coalesce in their heads. The EU was never anything but fan-fiction, far removed from Lucas' vision and intention, just a disgusting, predatory cash grab. I think you're letting your selfish nostalgia do your thinking for you. No checks and balances? So, how does the Star Wars Story Group work again? Do you happen to know, which mistakes in the ST can be attributed to Arndt, Kazdan and Terrio? That was so weird, though... Anakin: "When I left Mustafar after you did, I was but a burn out, but now, I uhh, have the... space station ground!?!" It doesn't really... flow, does it?
@@philippeamon7271 You do realize some of the Prequel stuff come from EU right? Without EU we wouldn't have gotten Corruscant or Aayla Secura. By the way, Star Wars as a franchise was literally dead not much going on back then and it was the EU who kept the franchise going with the Rise of Thrawn after Epsiode 6, Luke New Jedi Order etc. Oh by the way, George enjoy reading some of the EU comic and some of them made it into Prequels. But then again, to you who think reading novels or comic is just boring text, you must be JJ simp who love big stunning visual that shut off your brain in order to consume idiotic writings in the form of visual cinematic experience.
@@rhaelfixer2584 That's a couple of still visuals, that were lifted, I was talking about the actual narrative content. The movies tell us very little of both and nothing breaks, if George's designers'd had to draw something themselves. Kept the franchise going? Sure, but that's a cash grab, though - like the conveyor-belt streaming shows. The difference is, that all people can access movie content with minimal effort - you suggested, that 6 year olds should "just" read around 500 books and put the pieces together in their heads... That's not a reasonable ask. That wasn't my cinematic experience, though. Blinking lights apparently do not shut of my brain, I still heard what was being said - but it occurs to me, that a lot of people were too busy riding the hate train, and THEIR brains actually shut down, so much, that they completely missed the (hidden) story, and are still drowning in their frustrated self-imposed exile now 8 years later. Heart breaking!
@@philippeamon7271 You do realise people grow up right those 6 year old would eventually grow up watching the OT and Prequel eventually lead them to wanting to read comic and novels. But hey, Harry Potter books are also popular among kids and adults but you can't tell the difference?
I enjoyed Rouge One, I'm practically obsessed with Andor, and I thought Mando S1 was a bit of fun. I haven't enjoyed anything else Disney has produced within the universe.
Star Wars not a Micky & Friend,s cartoon so you have to study Gorge Lucas thought, Warner Brother imagination, Woody Allen emotion ,Clint Eastwood Flamboyance, Christopher Hope.
12:00 - the only solution is scrapping the whole of Disney contents altogether. Total reboot of the expanded universe. These are rotten fruits of a rotten tree.
The real sequel trilogy is Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command. 😎🥂 But I also want George Lucas’ sequel trilogy with Darth Maul and Darth Talon as the main villains! 😍 Universal Pictures for example should buy Lucasfilm, and then definitely decanonize the Disney sequel trilogy as well as the crap D- shows.
Can you elaborate on the continuity significance of having Maul and ?Darth? (How?) Talon as the villains? What does that imply for the future, in which direction would the story go, after they are gone again? Or did you just mean "because the Holdo manoeuvre looks sooo cool"-Maul&Talon? Like a placeholder? Are you arguing, that the villain arc doesn't matter, because you only like Rey? What does it create, to decanonize the conveyor-belt McStarWarslike? Nothing? You are coming off as unhinged angry and irrational, here... You do realize, you can't hurt a movie's feelings, right?
Why do people keep referencing Disney’s “promise” to use Lucas’s sequel plans?? Has anyone seen the prequels?? Total trash. That would have been a nightmare of a story too. Lucas is a world-builder and innovator, not a storyteller.
The idea is that he gave them the story and with talented writers they could have taken that and elevated it and removed things that are weak such as the dialogue and adapt it to work much better as George always was better at coming up with the story then everything else
@@TreasonousTakesfair enough, but who cares? I heard his treatments were similar to what we got with Luke ending up a hermit just like Yoda and and Obi wan. I don’t think we missed anything. I’m still recovering from the Prequel trilogy. The only reason the original trilogy was so good was people it was a collaborative effort, not just Lucas. When it’s just Lucas, you get the prequels.
@@blaisingm i can totally understand where your coming from and this is common with many directors/writers who gain to much control with no one to help. Its very much like James Cameron's Avatar.
The Force Unleashed simplified way too much and butchered Vader's story and person, not to mention his power. No one should be able to beat Darth Vader (or Palpatine) before Luke Skywalker... Disney went ahead and made this exact mistake in Obi Wan. I did not watch it though, but I heard about it and it sounds terrible.
@@achaudhari101 In the old cannon there was mentions of Vader essentially being unbeatable against force users (although he still gotten beaten a copule of times, but it was just books and comincs). Vader can be overwhelmed, but each time he is defeated it takes away from his final defeat at the hands of Luke Skywalker. SW:TFU takes this to a whole another level where not only Vader is beaten, but Palpatine is beaten too right after. What is the story? Star Wars or atleast the Galactic Empire ends right there, except a major deus ex machina happens and Kota convinces Starkiller to not kill the person, who's death could change the entire galaxy... It is just stupid, at least the royal guards and stormtroopers should have been to the ones to stop Starkiller, but that is only band aid to a bad wound.
I’m a fan of all the Star Wars eras I love the prequels I love the originals I love the sequels but the sequels definitely have there faults and definitely could of been better I love all the Star Wars shows apart from book of boba fett the 2d clone wars that’s thankfully not canon anymore and Mandalorian session 3 those shows were disappointing everything else is perfect in my opinion but I don’t think it’s fair to erase the movies or shows that did bad. there will always be someone who loves those and wants them to stay there so I think if they wanted to restart they could say everything they had done is not canon anymore and it takes place in another timeline like in legends but it would be called something different. This would be a win win because there keeping the media for people who enjoyed it so everyone can have their own timeline of Star Wars. Everyone’s timeline is different because everyone has their own head cannon and there perfect story in there head. They could do a reboot if they wanted they could make the sequels again but plan it this time and have one writer working on it one person one vision! And then continue things that are working if they don’t work try new things until it does work!
I totally agree, removing the content all together would be a bad idea it just would need to be made clear that it's not connected to the new continuity
@@TreasonousTakes Due to my current time/money situation, I'm not subscribed to any streaming services. Can you enlighten me as to the connections to the main storyline, you are referring to, with some practical examples that concern you?
@@philippeamon7271 An example of a problem with the Sequel trilogy is the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine in 'The Rise of Skywalker' as the problem in which it causes is that Anakin has always been the chosen one (George Lucas confirmed that he is) and was said to bring balance to the force, which he did when Luke helped convince him to sacrifice himself on the death star to stop Palpatine, but if he never destroyed Palpatine, he would have never brought balance to the force, thus not being the chosen one and in fact making Rey, thus chosen one which diminishes the impact of the Skywalkers family and in order for them to try damage control the many problems they have created they made Rey call herself a Skywalker despite not actually being a blood relative. I hope this gives a small idea of the 100s of problems they created.
@@TreasonousTakes There probably were Emperor clones on Byss, though canon hasn't confirmed it yet. But it makes sense for Luke to get in trouble with the force whip, picking up the red lightdagger, and realising what happened to him, when he was fighting with Anakin's lightsaber. But Emperor Gangrene is different. That only happens because Rey needed a false enemy, to "prove" how much of a hero she is. Like the Hosnian Cataclysm. Yeah, Anakin were the chosen one - BECAUSE of the Prophecy! (and from Lucas' perspective, well, he wanted to close and kill the space fantasy, so he could be the only Rey Lamewalker, so yeah, he'd like to pretend that he had never said anything about the Whills of the Force. Too late!) So even though it's real, it was created entirely by mortal Jedi, and therefore, it is a mortal Prophecy, not as set in stone eternal, as the Whills. In terms of bringing balance to the Force, Lucas stuck to the PC family-friendly answer: "kill bad man". That's more of a catalyst, though. Like Obi-Wan said: "Yes, it partially does control your actions! But it also obeys your commands!" He is describing how Jedi perceive and use the Force... multiple choices, conducted by over a thousand Jedi all the time for a thousand generations. Creating grooves, or paths of least resistance, for the Force to operate in. The Whills are, as a minimum sentient, but they may not realise how they are being led by the Jedi. They will however realise, once there is no longer anybody, at the other end of their leash. They start to move naturally again. Creating an interference pattern (probably), and where the highest wave meets the highest wave, we get the Dyad, and progressively smaller Demyads on either side of it. Why do you keep trying to kill the Skywalkers, when you complained about them being killed? Be consistent! "No one's ever really gone!"... Taste the word. Sky Walker, a person that walks in the sky. A biblically accurate angel summon avatar, that Rey's going to invent, because of Luke's Simulacrum thing. She'll make a Kylo for herself, as a dildo, but Ben, Luke and Leia will become available on the public marketplace. And the reason why, is because she threatens the galaxy, with her desire to be a hero - she needs to die in a helpful way, so she can still be the hero. And therefore, she will turn herself into a summon avatar spell, too. So yeah. she (will be)'s a Skywalker. In the same way that Rey Palpatine, is a Palpatine - it was never by blood, but by her actions. It's only because she wanted to be the hero, that she ends up regretting her choice of siding with Emperor Gangrene, and decides to fix her shit, go back in time on Tatooine, and confirm with her younger self, that yes, the timeline has been corrected, she declares herself Skywalker, now. Does that help? Anything else?
I know a lot of people including myself are hoping this show is great as Dave Filoni, despite the misstep with Mando S3 is still regarded as Star Wars saving grace. We will have to see, fingers crossed it is great.
@@TreasonousTakes Exactly! It's so bad that they announced three new Star Wars films and I don't care at all. As Traya said in Knights of the Old Republic 2: "Apathy is Death"
Whe have the legacy. 6 woNderfull movies and the apparition of Luc and Annakin in the series. All the other stuff are trash and is impossible to look at. And we have hope. One day Dinsey will down and somebody will buy the franchise.and will turn a.numer 7 movies. A good movie. Hope. HOPE.
Dead is very much subjective as yes they are still making content but to many people who use to enjoy star wars it's seen as dead or dying because its not content they would like which is evident by their declining viewership and return in investment. This is not to stop people enjoying the content they produce
@@TreasonousTakes Oh please, Andor was, before that was released, content that no one liked and that changed the moment the show aired. Just because it’s not what they like doesn’t automatically or necessarily mean that it’s doomed from the get go. Hell if that show is good also, I can see people praise Echo for being the better Marvel show than the likes of Secret Invasion for example.
@@achaudhari101 this topic is very opinionated and i understand where you are coming from, but as i said before there is evidence that the franchise is not healthy but this should never dictate your opinion. I hope this clarifies my stance
@@TreasonousTakes I understand both Star Wars and Marvel are not in the best of states right now, but dead? Not yet and hopefully never as at least with Marvel they are trying to fix their mistakes ever since the Strikes and those two articles (Though the Variety one seems to be debunked in its entirety).
@@TreasonousTakes You shouldn't have bothered with this guy. He's a known fanboy who doesn't take no for an answer, even in the face of blatant evidence. Star Wars is a moribund franchise, no one is buying a bunch of worthless lazy comics and pandering novels.
Oh! I know! THE FORCE AWAKENS Sucked! ROGUE ONE Even a broken clock is right twice a day. LAST JEDI Sucked! RISE OF SKYWALKER SUCKED! WILLOW Sucked! OBI WAN series Sucked. MANDO Sucked. BOOK OF BF Sucked. GALAXY SC HOTEL Closed. SOLO Least of the evils. ANDOR Revamping the menu on a sinking ship. INDY 5 $700. million up in flames. AHSOKA Sucked. REY film NEW REY FILM "Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay."
This video was alright until you started to spread the lie that disney Star Wars has feminist agendas. I may not like some of the new content but there is nothing to suggest that “woke” was the reason the sequels were bad. Especially when there is so much evidence debunking this. The biggest one being the Steele Wars interview that everyone ignores when Kennedy says that she had no idea the force is female shirt was controversial and in her eyes the force is for everyone. Hell in the last jedi men are shown doing capable things on screen Luke is shown saving everyone at the end. Finn (The man) defeats and stands above Phasma (The Woman) Kylo Ren manages to outsmart Snoke and kill him rule of two style and Poe leads everyone at the end (Even if it took a horrendous subplot to get us there.) Speaking of Holdo I guarantee you if she was a man then she would get the same amount of hate same with Rey and Rose which brings me into my next points. Rey being a female Jedi protagonist was in George Lucas’s notes so thats why she is female. If Rey was male in Georges outline then Rey would be male in Disneys trilogy. Even then people would still be calling Rey a Gary stu because of JJ Abram’s misunderstanding of the force which everyone ignores in order to promote this garbage theory also ignoring the fact that Kennedy did not write any of the sequel films. Btw I almost forgot to mention that Finn and Rose being diveristy chevk boxes is deconfirmed by behind the scenes looks. For Rose its in the art of the last jedi book where its stated that Rian Johnson had no race in mind for her and that people of all colors auditioned for the role before Kelly Tran was picked. Hell she was created at the last minute as he found that Poe didnt challenge Finns character enough. For Finn I saw on the wookiepedia page that Tom Holland was considered for the part of Finn and concept art shows him as caucasian. Bottom line anyone who says that Disney Star Wars has a “political agenda” is clearly either lying or has not done their research like I have. If they did they would see that they have been wrong all this time. With that I rest my case.
I'm not trying to put it down to woke agenda. The writing was awful. JJ Abrams didnt come up with an origional first film. He just copied and pasted things from the OT trilogy. Ryan johnson was not an action director/writer he is a crime writer with his previous work being Knives out, that's why he trys subverting audiences as it bled into his work. Its also no secret that writers put considerably less work into making female characters relatable and good, no fault of the actors. Finn was my fav character from the sequels but got sidelined after Ryan's film and put JJ Abrams in a corner. My intent is never to say its wokeness was the reason, its entirely writing. Arcane is woke but is a favourite show in my books, wokeness is just comonly associated with putting the story/writing on the backfoot in place for intersection of hot political topics. Its also hard to convey an opinion on the Internet without the chance it comes off differently to others. I hope this clarify my position.
Disney didn't kill it. Star Wars fan boys killed it. The best scene ever that summed it all up, was the one scene fan boys just didn't get. When Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder... it was Lucas wiping his hands of the whole mess because his point was completely lost on you. You guys just didn't get it. It wasn't about the color of your light sabers, or mitichlorians, or dressing up as the 501st StormTroopers to go to a CON, or writing spin off pulp fiction, or collecting crap plastic dolls still in their bubble plastic packaging. It was a movie that came out of the anti-war 1960's Hippies against the VIetnam war, about a grassroot resistance against a Republic subverted to an Empire because.. what else could a Republic become but an Evil Empire... it's in it's very DNA. Throw in a stolen trench run from another film, and that's it. That's Star Wars in a nut shell for you. All the rest was milking it out because you guys demanded more, until it was an exhausted dead carcass.
@@vladimirofsvalbard9477 Maybe he's a clone commisioned on Kamino. If they can clone Jango Fett for the Empire, they can clone the Emperor. Always back up your data... er I mean, Evil Emperors.
I just wanted to get out my opinion on the topic as you can see by my channels name and logo that I'm a huge fan of the franchise but I'm planning on leaving at this and not dragging it out over 100s of videos
Disney destroyed Star Wars.
I have to disagree: SW is still there and amazing, I like to watch the films in Blu-Ray, regularly. But yes, Disney's SW is garbage.
Not all of DSW is garbage.
Anything that Disney touches now is pure garbage including Star Wars. They should stop trying to push an agenda and just make a good movie. It's mostly men that go see Star Wars and when you alienate them you're going to lose money. The 1 that said "I enjoy making men feel uncomfortable " should be fired for ruining the franchise
Agreed
@@achaudhari101 That's like saying chicken pox isn't as bad as ebola.
Your video is perfect, I really like what you're saying, specially at the end. The greatest sin of Disney SW for me is the disrespect of the original universe created by Lucas.
Yup. I’ve all but stopped caring. I have zero enthusiasm for Star Wars these days.
Never thought that could happen
Which is dumb to do.
@@achaudhari101 o rly?
Yes really.
@@achaudhari101 to never think it could happen or to stop caring?
@@edroseptic9442 Both but the latter is what I condemn.
Since they announced the new movies would be once again centered on Rey, they really have learned nothing. Disney would rather lose money than change. That might be baffling to sane people, but the evidence is there that is in fact what they are doing.
And I stopped watching the Mandalorian precisely because I did not understand what was happening and learned you had to watch Boba Fett, which I did not want to do.
Casual say the garbage you said on Mandalorian.
Remember that this was all caused by Kathleen Kennedy and piss poor writers
"Somehow, they made a sequel to TLJ"
then
"They're making TV shows now! They're making TV shows now?"
They're making tv shows now.....😖🙄
Controversial opinion: I think Rebels should be retconned too. That show made the Empire unforgivably incompetent and got rid of the vileness Maul had in the Clone Wars.
That's not really controversial, Rebels is mediocre at best. Just recanonize the EU while changing the weaker aspects like the overuse of superweapons or the wishy washy references to the Clone Wars. OG Tales of the Jedi, KOTOR, the Darth Bane trilogy, Darth Plagueis The Republic comics, the 2003 microseries and CWMMP novels, the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series, the first Force Unleashed, the X-Wing novels, the Thrawn trilogy and Hand of Thrawn duology, the NJO books and the Legacy comics should be the blueprint on where to rebuild Star Wars.
Just as Disney's SW stuff needs to be purged from existence, or at least canon, so does Legend of Korra, which ruined the Avatar The Last Airbender universe.
It's the same type of brain rot with Modern politics, LGBTQ propaganda and woke shit.
Nah.
How did The Legend of Korra ruin Avatar The Last Airbender?
Typical misogynist
@@trevturp6891 The OP says that The Legend of Korra ruined the Avatar UNIVERSE. Learn to read before asking dumb questions. The changes done by that show to the lore, the spirit powers and whatnot did indeed ruin a lot of the pre-established rules. Also Korra is a shitty character in comparison to Aang.
First thing Disney did after buying Star Wars was cancel the Clone Wars.... first major mistake, replacing with Rebels, which was inferior. They realized this was wrong as they brought back characters from Clone Wars into Rebela, and returned the series for one more season and created spinoff Bad Batch.
The solo story was so unnecessary and stupid what they did. That Chewbacca's origin was beyond the ludicrous and shameful
I really enjoyed Rogue One & Solo but i am out of any Disney Star Wars stuff now. Back to the old novels for me now
Likewise, Dave Feloni did not in fact save star wars as some were claiming
@@TreasonousTakes Not gonna lie, everyone who ever expected him to even be able to save Star Wars clearly overestimated him. Even his golden child, "The Clone Wars", as good as it was, still had flaws (like the obvious pro-republic bias) and unnecessarily retconned much of established Canon just for a quick story that's finished within 1-2 episodes.
In truth the expectations of Star Wars fans declined ever since George Lucas left, and nowadays some people start crying when the see a 2 minute cameo from Luke or Anakin in a series and call it "peak Star Wars" just for that. Its not just the Star Wars brand that died, its also the fanbase.
@@LegioXXI The creativity also died with it
Andor is great.
Pretty dumb to leave.
they totally alienated the group of fans that made star wars and kept it alive during the late 80s into the late 90s gen x males . they are never getting us back
I grew up on Star Wars, am gen x, and I would happily watch more Star Wars if they would just make something good.
Dude, I'm Gen Z and grew up on The Clone Wars and Prequels. Once I saw Rey beat Kylo Ren, I had a bad feeling about where it was going. Then after The Last Jedi, i was done. They won me back with Mandalorian Season One, lost me for good with Season Three.
They’ve been saying that since 1999.
It would be wonderful if Disney sold Star wars. The company that gets the rights needs to eliminate all politics, race and LGBTQ crap from the movies since the only goal should be to make a great movie with good characters. If an actor who fits the role happens to be gay that is completely fine, but he shouldn't be hired because he is gay but because he fits the role. A way out is a trilogy about the Old republic with Darth Revan as the main character. He has a similar path to Anakin Skywalker, becoming a Sith after being a Jedi and then becoming a Jedi again. Then you can have standalone films about Malgus, Nihilus and Sion. If done correctly those films will restore the franchise and then the sequels can be remade taking into consideration George Lucas' plans.
Kinda hypocritical.
Toei Animation should buy Star Wars.
I still haven't seen the last sequel. The Last Jedi pretty much killed off whatever faith I had in Disney. As soon as I heard the director say something about "subverting expectations" I knew the whole franchise was going in the opposite of the right direction. Fans of franchises like the Star Wars Universe don't want their expectations subverted, they want them met. Giving them the opposite of what they expect just pisses them off. Rian Johnson was a terrible choice of director for a Star Wars film. J.J. Abrams was exposed as a talentless hack, yet they bought him back. I would love to watch a good Star Wars movie/show, but my expectations are so low now I can't justify a Disney+ subscription.
The only medium where Star Wars is still alive is gaming. The gaming industry still manages to put out some decent stuff, probably because they have much less oversight from Iger, Kennedy, and their idiot flunkies. A good way to resuscitate the franchise would be to basically take the scripts from KOTOR 1&2 and SWTOR base game, make them as movies for KOTOR and TV for SWTOR, and DO NOT change a fucking thing about them. Hire the original writers if you can. Those three games are a potential gold mine of good writing, plot and characters. They are also thematically consistent, linked, and have a defined chronology. The only way to fuck it up would be to try and make them better, try to "broaden their appeal", or try and "modernize" them.
The only way to make Star Wars work again is to give the original fans what they want. Get them excited again and word of mouth will spread. That's how it got big in the first place. If the true fans aren't liking it there's no way it's going to get the attention of a broader audience. Disney has it completely backwards in that regard. It's a simple concept they cannot seem to grasp, but perhaps someone else could.
Same, tlj bored the shit out of me. I was done but unfortunately a badly timed birthday meant I got gifted tickets to RoS
Likewise. Having been a Star Wars fan since 1977, after being disappointed by "The Force Awakens" and "The Last Jedi," I skipped "The Rise Of Skywalker." I did like " Rogue One "
And why do all these recent movies have to be filmed in gray and white and CPU tone? Don't they realize we like to see colors the first prequels or at least enormously colorful. They could be watched with the sound down and still be entertaining. A solo story was nothing but people in black and gray outfits fighting in gray ships on white backgrounds around white mountains or gray. Misty areas it put me to sleep. It was like watching a movie that was a fog
Weird nitpick.
The Finn thing is weird. I bought the Force Awakens Falcon and it featured Finn not Rei. I get the feeling he was supposed to be the Luke of this film.
he was but chickety china the chinese chicken said boo about it
In order to truly save Star Wars.
You cannot selectively choose Obi Wan Kenobi, Solo, Mandalorian Season 3, etc...
You must make it so that it is fair regardless of the show. This mean The Clone Wars animated series as well because Dave Filoni contradicted a shit ton of lore from EU. Not to mention ruining characters like Quinlan Vos.
Star Wars need to set an order. This mean that the new writers should read/watch the previous authors work so they understand the characters and lore. If this isn't done then is pointless even if you cherry pick the poorly written shows/movies. Somebody newer is going to writes/directs however he/she wants to because there is not any check and balances. Those writers/directors will probably going to fuck it all up just because they want to tell "their" vision of their story which does not have anything to do with the lore and continuity of Star Wars.
By the way, George Lucas even care about EU. He did read some of the comics not all but some. Aayla Secura, Coruscants, Jedi Code and many more. He make a strict guideline, Vader and Obi Wan didn't meet each other until their fateful duel onboard the Death Star. Writers/Directors making such movie should adhere to it. Right now Disney couldn't give a crap about Star Wars so they just hired any talentless morons to direct their parody.
Still can't believe scene like Kenobi hiding Leia underneath his trench coat was directed, edited and approved for productions. That shit was freaking hilarious.
The EU doesn't "save" Star Wars... that's way, way, way too much boring text, for anybody to read and coalesce in their heads. The EU was never anything but fan-fiction, far removed from Lucas' vision and intention, just a disgusting, predatory cash grab. I think you're letting your selfish nostalgia do your thinking for you.
No checks and balances? So, how does the Star Wars Story Group work again? Do you happen to know, which mistakes in the ST can be attributed to Arndt, Kazdan and Terrio?
That was so weird, though... Anakin: "When I left Mustafar after you did, I was but a burn out, but now, I uhh, have the... space station ground!?!" It doesn't really... flow, does it?
@@philippeamon7271 You do realize some of the Prequel stuff come from EU right? Without EU we wouldn't have gotten Corruscant or Aayla Secura. By the way, Star Wars as a franchise was literally dead not much going on back then and it was the EU who kept the franchise going with the Rise of Thrawn after Epsiode 6, Luke New Jedi Order etc. Oh by the way, George enjoy reading some of the EU comic and some of them made it into Prequels.
But then again, to you who think reading novels or comic is just boring text, you must be JJ simp who love big stunning visual that shut off your brain in order to consume idiotic writings in the form of visual cinematic experience.
@@rhaelfixer2584 That's a couple of still visuals, that were lifted, I was talking about the actual narrative content. The movies tell us very little of both and nothing breaks, if George's designers'd had to draw something themselves.
Kept the franchise going? Sure, but that's a cash grab, though - like the conveyor-belt streaming shows. The difference is, that all people can access movie content with minimal effort - you suggested, that 6 year olds should "just" read around 500 books and put the pieces together in their heads... That's not a reasonable ask.
That wasn't my cinematic experience, though. Blinking lights apparently do not shut of my brain, I still heard what was being said - but it occurs to me, that a lot of people were too busy riding the hate train, and THEIR brains actually shut down, so much, that they completely missed the (hidden) story, and are still drowning in their frustrated self-imposed exile now 8 years later. Heart breaking!
@@philippeamon7271 You do realise people grow up right those 6 year old would eventually grow up watching the OT and Prequel eventually lead them to wanting to read comic and novels. But hey, Harry Potter books are also popular among kids and adults but you can't tell the difference?
@@philippeamon7271 I didn't suggest a 6 year old to read 500 pages, when did I even said that? But then again you can't read what was written clearly.
Disney should sell it.
They can't make these types of movies, they have no understanding of adolescent and young adult sociology.
Knives came out after TLJ
Yeah, that pretty much killed what little faith I had in Disney.
He wrote other movies too
I enjoyed Rouge One, I'm practically obsessed with Andor, and I thought Mando S1 was a bit of fun. I haven't enjoyed anything else Disney has produced within the universe.
Same with me. Its a shame that’s all they have managed to produce in all these years
Great video 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Star Wars is going to have to go away. Disney destroyed it so completely that there's no resuscitating it.
That’s what I expect a Kennedy acolyte to say.
@@achaudhari101
Please explain why you think so.
Seems to me, a Kennedy acolyte would want to buttfuck Star Wars' corpse until there's nothing left.
Star Wars not a Micky & Friend,s cartoon so you have to study Gorge Lucas thought, Warner Brother imagination, Woody Allen emotion ,Clint Eastwood Flamboyance, Christopher Hope.
Christopher Nolan's
12:00 - the only solution is scrapping the whole of Disney contents altogether. Total reboot of the expanded universe. These are rotten fruits of a rotten tree.
Seeing what's happening with James Gunns rebooted DC plans, you are very much correct
@@TreasonousTakes the only problem with James Gunn's reboot is James Gunn. The Reboot was necessary because the whole DCverse is FUBAR
The Star Wars franchise under Disney might be dead, but I daresay Star Wars fanfilms have never been stronger.
The real sequel trilogy is Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command. 😎🥂 But I also want George Lucas’ sequel trilogy with Darth Maul and Darth Talon as the main villains! 😍 Universal Pictures for example should buy Lucasfilm, and then definitely decanonize the Disney sequel trilogy as well as the crap D- shows.
Can you elaborate on the continuity significance of having Maul and ?Darth? (How?) Talon as the villains? What does that imply for the future, in which direction would the story go, after they are gone again? Or did you just mean "because the Holdo manoeuvre looks sooo cool"-Maul&Talon? Like a placeholder? Are you arguing, that the villain arc doesn't matter, because you only like Rey?
What does it create, to decanonize the conveyor-belt McStarWarslike? Nothing? You are coming off as unhinged angry and irrational, here... You do realize, you can't hurt a movie's feelings, right?
Been dead to me since Force awakens. I'm proudly untainted by the final two 💩 dumpsters
Its time to make leftists very uncomfortable
KK is the problem...period
Because they thought jj Abram’s was a good story teller
Why do people keep referencing Disney’s “promise” to use Lucas’s sequel plans?? Has anyone seen the prequels?? Total trash. That would have been a nightmare of a story too. Lucas is a world-builder and innovator, not a storyteller.
The idea is that he gave them the story and with talented writers they could have taken that and elevated it and removed things that are weak such as the dialogue and adapt it to work much better as George always was better at coming up with the story then everything else
@@TreasonousTakesfair enough, but who cares? I heard his treatments were similar to what we got with Luke ending up a hermit just like Yoda and and Obi wan. I don’t think we missed anything.
I’m still recovering from the Prequel trilogy. The only reason the original trilogy was so good was people it was a collaborative effort, not just Lucas. When it’s just Lucas, you get the prequels.
@@blaisingm i can totally understand where your coming from and this is common with many directors/writers who gain to much control with no one to help. Its very much like James Cameron's Avatar.
If you make women uncomfortable it is called these days #meToo
The Force Unleashed was the TRUE bridge between III and IV.
No.
@@achaudhari101yes Force Unleash 4 life
The Force Unleashed simplified way too much and butchered Vader's story and person, not to mention his power. No one should be able to beat Darth Vader (or Palpatine) before Luke Skywalker... Disney went ahead and made this exact mistake in Obi Wan. I did not watch it though, but I heard about it and it sounds terrible.
@@clone3_7 Vader can’t be overwhelmed?
@@achaudhari101 In the old cannon there was mentions of Vader essentially being unbeatable against force users (although he still gotten beaten a copule of times, but it was just books and comincs). Vader can be overwhelmed, but each time he is defeated it takes away from his final defeat at the hands of Luke Skywalker.
SW:TFU takes this to a whole another level where not only Vader is beaten, but Palpatine is beaten too right after. What is the story? Star Wars or atleast the Galactic Empire ends right there, except a major deus ex machina happens and Kota convinces Starkiller to not kill the person, who's death could change the entire galaxy... It is just stupid, at least the royal guards and stormtroopers should have been to the ones to stop Starkiller, but that is only band aid to a bad wound.
I am a gen Xr and the original star wars, and the EU will always be. I just simply do not recognize Disney fan fic
Based
I’m a fan of all the Star Wars eras I love the prequels I love the originals I love the sequels but the sequels definitely have there faults and definitely could of been better I love all the Star Wars shows apart from book of boba fett the 2d clone wars that’s thankfully not canon anymore and Mandalorian session 3 those shows were disappointing everything else is perfect in my opinion but I don’t think it’s fair to erase the movies or shows that did bad. there will always be someone who loves those and wants them to stay there so I think if they wanted to restart they could say everything they had done is not canon anymore and it takes place in another timeline like in legends but it would be called something different. This would be a win win because there keeping the media for people who enjoyed it so everyone can have their own timeline of Star Wars. Everyone’s timeline is different because everyone has their own head cannon and there perfect story in there head. They could do a reboot if they wanted they could make the sequels again but plan it this time and have one writer working on it one person one vision! And then continue things that are working if they don’t work try new things until it does work!
I totally agree, removing the content all together would be a bad idea it just would need to be made clear that it's not connected to the new continuity
@@TreasonousTakes Due to my current time/money situation, I'm not subscribed to any streaming services. Can you enlighten me as to the connections to the main storyline, you are referring to, with some practical examples that concern you?
@@philippeamon7271 An example of a problem with the Sequel trilogy is the reintroduction of Emperor Palpatine in 'The Rise of Skywalker' as the problem in which it causes is that Anakin has always been the chosen one (George Lucas confirmed that he is) and was said to bring balance to the force, which he did when Luke helped convince him to sacrifice himself on the death star to stop Palpatine, but if he never destroyed Palpatine, he would have never brought balance to the force, thus not being the chosen one and in fact making Rey, thus chosen one which diminishes the impact of the Skywalkers family and in order for them to try damage control the many problems they have created they made Rey call herself a Skywalker despite not actually being a blood relative. I hope this gives a small idea of the 100s of problems they created.
@@TreasonousTakes There probably were Emperor clones on Byss, though canon hasn't confirmed it yet. But it makes sense for Luke to get in trouble with the force whip, picking up the red lightdagger, and realising what happened to him, when he was fighting with Anakin's lightsaber.
But Emperor Gangrene is different. That only happens because Rey needed a false enemy, to "prove" how much of a hero she is. Like the Hosnian Cataclysm.
Yeah, Anakin were the chosen one - BECAUSE of the Prophecy! (and from Lucas' perspective, well, he wanted to close and kill the space fantasy, so he could be the only Rey Lamewalker, so yeah, he'd like to pretend that he had never said anything about the Whills of the Force. Too late!)
So even though it's real, it was created entirely by mortal Jedi, and therefore, it is a mortal Prophecy, not as set in stone eternal, as the Whills. In terms of bringing balance to the Force, Lucas stuck to the PC family-friendly answer: "kill bad man". That's more of a catalyst, though. Like Obi-Wan said: "Yes, it partially does control your actions! But it also obeys your commands!"
He is describing how Jedi perceive and use the Force... multiple choices, conducted by over a thousand Jedi all the time for a thousand generations. Creating grooves, or paths of least resistance, for the Force to operate in. The Whills are, as a minimum sentient, but they may not realise how they are being led by the Jedi. They will however realise, once there is no longer anybody, at the other end of their leash.
They start to move naturally again. Creating an interference pattern (probably), and where the highest wave meets the highest wave, we get the Dyad, and progressively smaller Demyads on either side of it.
Why do you keep trying to kill the Skywalkers, when you complained about them being killed? Be consistent! "No one's ever really gone!"... Taste the word. Sky Walker, a person that walks in the sky. A biblically accurate angel summon avatar, that Rey's going to invent, because of Luke's Simulacrum thing. She'll make a Kylo for herself, as a dildo, but Ben, Luke and Leia will become available on the public marketplace. And the reason why, is because she threatens the galaxy, with her desire to be a hero - she needs to die in a helpful way, so she can still be the hero. And therefore, she will turn herself into a summon avatar spell, too.
So yeah. she (will be)'s a Skywalker. In the same way that Rey Palpatine, is a Palpatine - it was never by blood, but by her actions.
It's only because she wanted to be the hero, that she ends up regretting her choice of siding with Emperor Gangrene, and decides to fix her shit, go back in time on Tatooine, and confirm with her younger self, that yes, the timeline has been corrected, she declares herself Skywalker, now.
Does that help? Anything else?
Star Wars will be ruined if Ashoka series is ruined and rubbish see what happens
I know a lot of people including myself are hoping this show is great as Dave Filoni, despite the misstep with Mando S3 is still regarded as Star Wars saving grace. We will have to see, fingers crossed it is great.
It was not a good show.
Well that went well
RIP
Except it’s not a bad show.
I admire the way Lucas took these greedy liberals to the cleaners.
Trying to make Star Wars female centric is one of the dumbest moves made in cinematic history.
Same with Marvel, it will be looked back at in history as the dumbest decision in Disneys history.
@@TreasonousTakes Exactly! It's so bad that they announced three new Star Wars films and I don't care at all. As Traya said in Knights of the Old Republic 2: "Apathy is Death"
You can stop this video at "Bud Light".
Whe have the legacy. 6 woNderfull movies and the apparition of Luc and Annakin in the series. All the other stuff are trash and is impossible to look at.
And we have hope. One day Dinsey will down and somebody will buy the franchise.and will turn a.numer 7 movies.
A good movie.
Hope. HOPE.
Toei Animation should buy Star Wars.
'They ruined finn'😢 they did disney should focused on him and rey is just there getting the coffee
Franchise isn’t dead.
Dead is very much subjective as yes they are still making content but to many people who use to enjoy star wars it's seen as dead or dying because its not content they would like which is evident by their declining viewership and return in investment. This is not to stop people enjoying the content they produce
@@TreasonousTakes Oh please, Andor was, before that was released, content that no one liked and that changed the moment the show aired. Just because it’s not what they like doesn’t automatically or necessarily mean that it’s doomed from the get go. Hell if that show is good also, I can see people praise Echo for being the better Marvel show than the likes of Secret Invasion for example.
@@achaudhari101 this topic is very opinionated and i understand where you are coming from, but as i said before there is evidence that the franchise is not healthy but this should never dictate your opinion. I hope this clarifies my stance
@@TreasonousTakes I understand both Star Wars and Marvel are not in the best of states right now, but dead? Not yet and hopefully never as at least with Marvel they are trying to fix their mistakes ever since the Strikes and those two articles (Though the Variety one seems to be debunked in its entirety).
@@TreasonousTakes You shouldn't have bothered with this guy. He's a known fanboy who doesn't take no for an answer, even in the face of blatant evidence. Star Wars is a moribund franchise, no one is buying a bunch of worthless lazy comics and pandering novels.
Oh! I know!
THE FORCE AWAKENS Sucked!
ROGUE ONE Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
LAST JEDI Sucked!
RISE OF SKYWALKER SUCKED!
WILLOW Sucked!
OBI WAN series Sucked.
MANDO Sucked.
BOOK OF BF Sucked.
GALAXY SC HOTEL Closed.
SOLO Least of the evils.
ANDOR Revamping the menu on a sinking ship.
INDY 5 $700. million up in flames.
AHSOKA Sucked.
REY film NEW REY FILM "Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay."
You forgot Acolyte. I love this summary though as it's so on point
@@TreasonousTakes Yea! So sad! STAR WARS went from the greatest thing ever to "even a broken clock is right twice a day."
EU > Canon.
This video was alright until you started to spread the lie that disney Star Wars has feminist agendas. I may not like some of the new content but there is nothing to suggest that “woke” was the reason the sequels were bad. Especially when there is so much evidence debunking this. The biggest one being the Steele Wars interview that everyone ignores when Kennedy says that she had no idea the force is female shirt was controversial and in her eyes the force is for everyone. Hell in the last jedi men are shown doing capable things on screen Luke is shown saving everyone at the end. Finn (The man) defeats and stands above Phasma (The Woman) Kylo Ren manages to outsmart Snoke and kill him rule of two style and Poe leads everyone at the end (Even if it took a horrendous subplot to get us there.) Speaking of Holdo I guarantee you if she was a man then she would get the same amount of hate same with Rey and Rose which brings me into my next points. Rey being a female Jedi protagonist was in George Lucas’s notes so thats why she is female. If Rey was male in Georges outline then Rey would be male in Disneys trilogy. Even then people would still be calling Rey a Gary stu because of JJ Abram’s misunderstanding of the force which everyone ignores in order to promote this garbage theory also ignoring the fact that Kennedy did not write any of the sequel films. Btw I almost forgot to mention that Finn and Rose being diveristy chevk boxes is deconfirmed by behind the scenes looks. For Rose its in the art of the last jedi book where its stated that Rian Johnson had no race in mind for her and that people of all colors auditioned for the role before Kelly Tran was picked. Hell she was created at the last minute as he found that Poe didnt challenge Finns character enough. For Finn I saw on the wookiepedia page that Tom Holland was considered for the part of Finn and concept art shows him as caucasian. Bottom line anyone who says that Disney Star Wars has a “political agenda” is clearly either lying or has not done their research like I have. If they did they would see that they have been wrong all this time. With that I rest my case.
I'm not trying to put it down to woke agenda. The writing was awful. JJ Abrams didnt come up with an origional first film. He just copied and pasted things from the OT trilogy. Ryan johnson was not an action director/writer he is a crime writer with his previous work being Knives out, that's why he trys subverting audiences as it bled into his work. Its also no secret that writers put considerably less work into making female characters relatable and good, no fault of the actors. Finn was my fav character from the sequels but got sidelined after Ryan's film and put JJ Abrams in a corner. My intent is never to say its wokeness was the reason, its entirely writing. Arcane is woke but is a favourite show in my books, wokeness is just comonly associated with putting the story/writing on the backfoot in place for intersection of hot political topics. Its also hard to convey an opinion on the Internet without the chance it comes off differently to others. I hope this clarify my position.
Disney didn't kill it.
Star Wars fan boys killed it.
The best scene ever that summed it all up, was the one scene fan boys just didn't get. When Luke threw the lightsaber over his shoulder... it was Lucas wiping his hands of the whole mess because his point was completely lost on you. You guys just didn't get it. It wasn't about the color of your light sabers, or mitichlorians, or dressing up as the 501st StormTroopers to go to a CON, or writing spin off pulp fiction, or collecting crap plastic dolls still in their bubble plastic packaging.
It was a movie that came out of the anti-war 1960's Hippies against the VIetnam war, about a grassroot resistance against a Republic subverted to an Empire because.. what else could a Republic become but an Evil Empire... it's in it's very DNA. Throw in a stolen trench run from another film, and that's it. That's Star Wars in a nut shell for you. All the rest was milking it out because you guys demanded more, until it was an exhausted dead carcass.
I don't recall Star Wars fan boys writing a script including, "somehow Palpatine returned."
@@vladimirofsvalbard9477 Maybe he's a clone commisioned on Kamino. If they can clone Jango Fett for the Empire, they can clone the Emperor. Always back up your data... er I mean, Evil Emperors.
@@twirlygirlyno no no no that movie sucked donkie butt hole
@@twirlygirlywould it kill them to at least have a plan? Or well developed characters?
People are still making videos on this subject? 🥱
I just wanted to get out my opinion on the topic as you can see by my channels name and logo that I'm a huge fan of the franchise but I'm planning on leaving at this and not dragging it out over 100s of videos