With the Dragonborn's help, the Civil War will be ended quietly and both Skyrim and Hammerfell can join forces and improve each others lifes and the lifes of their own citizens, perhaps they can even form an alliance with Morrowind (House Redoran in particular) and aid them in making peace or pushing back the Argonians, with them, the Thalmor's days are numbered
@@Senor_Penor People love to talk about this while ignoring the context of how we find out about Black Marsh beating back the Daedra invasions. That information about Black Marsh comes from the Infernal City book where an Argonian who wasn't even there was trying to discredit the fact that Martin Septim ended the Oblivion Crisis because they bought into An-Xileel propaganda. Lilmoth, Stormhold and Gideon (3 major cities in Black Marsh) were wiped out in that same book. And the An-Xileel aren't even special in regards to invading Oblivion, delving into Oblivion gates to close them is kinda the whole point of Elder Scrolls 4 and we know that Altmer on the Summerset Isles could accomplish the same thing
Nords meet their Redguards brothers to piss all over the white gold tower and liberate Imperial milkdrinkers from their th*lmor overlords 4E 202 beginning of special cyrodilic operation
whoa ... this unique, modded dialogue scene between them honestly looks SO DOPE and like it could even eventually be canon!!!!! Bro/Sis guard 🧕🏾⚔️🏜️ + Chadcloak 🐻💪🏼💙❄️🏔️🪓 💯%independent alliance fo shoooooo 🤝🏼😁
While I am more supporting of the Empird, I'm surprised Bethesda did not make a middle ground between the Stormcloak goal and the Imperial goal , some kind of " human confederacy "(not federation ) , the Stormcloak accepting to lay down swords and axes in exchange the Empire giving large autonomy to Skyrim, while both province help rebuild each other thus creating a solid and mutual defense against the dominion, end goal would be Skyrim becoming in the middle to long term independant but creating and contributing to a strong defensive alliance between human nations
It's so funny how she goes straight to Alfred Stormcloak and not the empire this is a clear fact that hammerfell is probably still angry at the empire Skyrim and hammerfell Stormcloaks and the red guards that's going to be interesting that would be interesting
I'm so tired of everyone being so fucking obsessed with the Thalmor, my man is rebelling against a corrupt Empire for Skyrim's freedom, not against the Thalmor.
This is so funny how the red guards ask for the Stormcloaks help instead of the empires it sounds hammerfell is still angry with the empire I think the Stormcloaks can hold Skyrim the Redguard did it surely the Nords of Skyrim can
I think skyroam and the hammerfell would make a powerful Alliance northern red guards the greatest warriors in Tamriel that would be so cool in Elder Scrolls 6 and then they crushed the Dominion
This is such a poor argument coming from the Emissary. Clearly, the Thalmor want the unification of Skyrim to be delayed so let's prolong the war by bringing the full might of the Imperial Army into Skyrim.
Depends on the strength of the current Imperial army. The Thalmor, Imperials, and Redguards all exhaused their forces during the Great War while Skyrim's forces remained largely intact. That's why the Thalmor needs to keep the Nords divided, and the Imperial army at this point probably can't match Ulfric's forces on their own, evidenced by the fact they are barely keeping the balance even with the backup of Elisif. You can argue the Thalmor is deliberately keeping the balance in order to weaken both Skyrim and the Empire, but that still means the Stormcloaks are strong enough to grind the Empire to pieces as they are largely out of the Thalmor's control at this point.
@@michaelsmith8028 There's a reason why the EEC office is in Windhelm. You think that the Empire is willing to spend on all its forces to deal with the Stormcloaks. They aren't. Your words are as meaningless as saying that "the colonial rebels are no match for the British regulars" or "the Vietcong are no match for the Americans". They pulled out when they realize that it's not worth the trouble.
This mod is based. We need more mod authors who are spineless prick that talks shit about the Stormcloaks. I always hate it when they put in their own bias especially when I try to do a Stormcloaks centric playthrough. I’m not even arguing that they should be pro Stormcloaks I would just prefer if they remain neutral. Hell even Inigo talks endless shit about the Stormcloaks once you get to windhelm
Literally me with Livia Silvain, or Auri or Kaiden or Inigo (I think?) And even Lucien Flavius. Too many Imperial aligned followers who dunks on the Stormcloaks or complains about them. Worst offender is Auri. The type of Bosmer that would say: Valenwood belongs to the Bosmer! While also hating on the Stormcloaks. Smh
Yeah...so spinless to not want to role play rascists...some of us are sick of it in real life so we aren't going to pretend to be supremacists in a video game So much spineless 😂
AI voice is a game changer man.This seems like legit dialogue and not spliced together lines
Vladimir Kulich was a superb choice for Ulfric
Hopefully we can can some huge battle mod to further the story .
Wow a follower mod that isn't written to shit all over Ulfric? Never thought i would see the day, amazing work by the mod author.
haha it seems like every new follower has to shit on ulfric with some cringe ass quips to be politically correct. glad this one isn’t
Imperial fans will say this is just a fan-fiction, but it is the fan-fiction I choose to follow!
Totally ❤
Ulfric did in fact send a letter to hammerfell in the base game so it not a stretch for this to semi cannon.
@@CommanderM117 Really? All the better - more arguments for me against Empire-advocates, thank you.
@@CommanderM117 No he did not, lmao.
@@dutchpatriot17he did you can hear his dialogue with jorlief about waiting replies from hammerfell about making alliance after he send a letter
With the Dragonborn's help, the Civil War will be ended quietly and both Skyrim and Hammerfell can join forces and improve each others lifes and the lifes of their own citizens, perhaps they can even form an alliance with Morrowind (House Redoran in particular) and aid them in making peace or pushing back the Argonians, with them, the Thalmor's days are numbered
OBLIVION couldnt take the Argonians so i dont think the Thalmor can.
@@Senor_Penor People love to talk about this while ignoring the context of how we find out about Black Marsh beating back the Daedra invasions. That information about Black Marsh comes from the Infernal City book where an Argonian who wasn't even there was trying to discredit the fact that Martin Septim ended the Oblivion Crisis because they bought into An-Xileel propaganda. Lilmoth, Stormhold and Gideon (3 major cities in Black Marsh) were wiped out in that same book. And the An-Xileel aren't even special in regards to invading Oblivion, delving into Oblivion gates to close them is kinda the whole point of Elder Scrolls 4 and we know that Altmer on the Summerset Isles could accomplish the same thing
@@NiceuRiceuPretty clear you never read the Novels.
Stormcloak: total elf death (feat Yakuda)
Hammerfell for the redguards and Skyrim for the nords
I wish this was a new Civil War Overhaul mod.
Nords meet their Redguards brothers to piss all over the white gold tower and liberate Imperial milkdrinkers from their th*lmor overlords
4E 202
beginning of special cyrodilic operation
whoa ... this unique, modded dialogue scene between them honestly looks SO DOPE and like it could even eventually be canon!!!!! Bro/Sis guard 🧕🏾⚔️🏜️ + Chadcloak 🐻💪🏼💙❄️🏔️🪓 💯%independent alliance fo shoooooo 🤝🏼😁
While I am more supporting of the Empird, I'm surprised Bethesda did not make a middle ground between the Stormcloak goal and the Imperial goal , some kind of " human confederacy "(not federation ) , the Stormcloak accepting to lay down swords and axes in exchange the Empire giving large autonomy to Skyrim, while both province help rebuild each other thus creating a solid and mutual defense against the dominion, end goal would be Skyrim becoming in the middle to long term independant but creating and contributing to a strong defensive alliance between human nations
i need this mod
It's so funny how she goes straight to Alfred Stormcloak and not the empire this is a clear fact that hammerfell is probably still angry at the empire Skyrim and hammerfell Stormcloaks and the red guards that's going to be interesting that would be interesting
I'm so tired of everyone being so fucking obsessed with the Thalmor, my man is rebelling against a corrupt Empire for Skyrim's freedom, not against the Thalmor.
I found this mod that lets any character In skyrim become your follower
Is this mod on Xbox and what’s the name
This is so funny how the red guards ask for the Stormcloaks help instead of the empires it sounds hammerfell is still angry with the empire I think the Stormcloaks can hold Skyrim the Redguard did it surely the Nords of Skyrim can
I think skyroam and the hammerfell would make a powerful Alliance northern red guards the greatest warriors in Tamriel that would be so cool in Elder Scrolls 6 and then they crushed the Dominion
This is such a poor argument coming from the Emissary. Clearly, the Thalmor want the unification of Skyrim to be delayed so let's prolong the war by bringing the full might of the Imperial Army into Skyrim.
Depends on the strength of the current Imperial army. The Thalmor, Imperials, and Redguards all exhaused their forces during the Great War while Skyrim's forces remained largely intact. That's why the Thalmor needs to keep the Nords divided, and the Imperial army at this point probably can't match Ulfric's forces on their own, evidenced by the fact they are barely keeping the balance even with the backup of Elisif. You can argue the Thalmor is deliberately keeping the balance in order to weaken both Skyrim and the Empire, but that still means the Stormcloaks are strong enough to grind the Empire to pieces as they are largely out of the Thalmor's control at this point.
@@seaneas100 The Stormcloaks are in no way a match for the empire.
They are in Skyrim. Maybe not against Cyrodiil but there not fighting Cyrodiil. There only fighting the imperials in Skyrim.
@@michaelsmith8028 The stormcloaks would absolutely crush the imperials bitches, just look at our real history
@@michaelsmith8028 There's a reason why the EEC office is in Windhelm. You think that the Empire is willing to spend on all its forces to deal with the Stormcloaks. They aren't. Your words are as meaningless as saying that "the colonial rebels are no match for the British regulars" or "the Vietcong are no match for the Americans". They pulled out when they realize that it's not worth the trouble.
This mod is based. We need more mod authors who are spineless prick that talks shit about the Stormcloaks. I always hate it when they put in their own bias especially when I try to do a Stormcloaks centric playthrough. I’m not even arguing that they should be pro Stormcloaks I would just prefer if they remain neutral. Hell even Inigo talks endless shit about the Stormcloaks once you get to windhelm
Literally me with Livia Silvain, or Auri or Kaiden or Inigo (I think?) And even Lucien Flavius.
Too many Imperial aligned followers who dunks on the Stormcloaks or complains about them. Worst offender is Auri. The type of Bosmer that would say:
Valenwood belongs to the Bosmer!
While also hating on the Stormcloaks. Smh
Yeah...so spinless to not want to role play rascists...some of us are sick of it in real life so we aren't going to pretend to be supremacists in a video game
So much spineless 😂
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