DPM vs MTP Camouflage Test
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Myself and Survival Bloke have been speaking about different camouflage for a while, we decided to put the 2 main UK Military Camo's to the test.
Please comment with which you think was better in this scenario/woodland.
/ survivalbloke
It'd be easier to judge if the video didn't have the resolution of a Lego portrait.
they are both good - depends on what background you stand in front of.
there will never be a "one camo works everywhere".
mtp was designed for afgan and dpm for uk.
Actually MTP is multi terrain pattern, and can be used in any country some work better than others... and excluding snowy areas where as dpm is for any forest/jungle areas (basically anywhere green)
"Multi terrain pattern" is exactly that. Jungle AND desert where as before, it was dpm for jungle, and desert for desert.
funkyprepper Dessert pattern was designed for that dessert, the only reason We Changed to MTP, was because of NATO, USA, And other NATO Forces all moved to a form of MT Pattern. I have sets of all DPM Jungle, Dessert and MTP. At end of day whatever works.
The mtp was made to suit Afghan because the troops had to go from desert areas to green vegetation
Multicam was marketed back in the day with the slogan that went something like: "Better to have a camo that works alright anywhere, than one that is perfect somewhere but completely useless everywhere else." I would say that sums it up pretty well.
MTP practically glows in the dark!
Both patterns are pretty cool but in my opinion they could both use some improvements. The DMP is effective at close range but it's too dark like most patterns it tends to black blob when you get beyond 15-20 yards, whereas the MTP is very effective at longer distances up close it's too light and can easily be spotted. But great video though it was a good demo, I really enjoyed it.
Not true, wore these for years in the Army and once washed a few times DPM blends right in. MTP is much too light for europe and lacks any contrast to break up shapes - at 300m against a woodland background it just looks like a pale green person. DPM at the same range and conditions is all but invisible.
DPM is perfect for British forests
IMO I still love the DPM, but for use in greener, darker woodland where the darker stripes in the DPM mimic natural shade and 'disrupts' your human shape. I would trust the MTP more on open moors or open woodland aswell as all Arid environments because its pattern better mimics light hitting objects in the foreground - something you don't get as much in heavy woodland. Good video guys.
***** Great comments James
i agree
Spot on james i totally agree
Exactly, horses for courses (as we say).
DPM is superior; MTP glows in the dark, and a moor offers absolutely no cover, and thus not a place where light infantry want to be conducting combat operations in the daytime.
They are both GREAT CAMO ! I'm from the U.S., and was stationed in Hawaii. I trained with British and ghurka soldiers. I must say I liked DPM better than woodland because its hard to see a repeat in the pattern. I was a camouflage instructor and an artist, I got really good at finding the pattern repeats in woodland, not so with DPM. DPM would be my first choice for dense , moist vegetation, but MTP is a better all terrain pattern. Its too bad the U.K. didn't go with pencott, but it is so $$$ !
I love the MTP but it seemed to reflect a lot more light on the near side position. All my gear is DPM and sticks out in the Autumn season. I go SF black for all seasons night or day. Good food for thought. Bex
DPM still rules.
nah, indonesian army still using them but their camo version is too much white and when they done an exercise the camo looks too white and too much wet stuff inside the rain forest makes this camo lose some green color and they just look worst lol
@@nightwalker9828 yeah DPM wins hands down
DPM was designed for British and European Forests for Cold War. It works miles better than MTP which obviously suits other terrains, but in Britain DPM is king.
DPM all the way!Beech,oak and pines in my woods told me so. ;-)
For standard British woodland I find DPM is the best. For moor land I find MTP is the best. It depends on the terrain.
Try flattening off the fabric shine by a few light dust coats of matt spray. Drab olive and brown. Lighten up the dpm slightly and darken the mtp. Customise until your happy.
MTP is too light and bright for mainland europe, but hey the wars we fight are all in the middle east anyway.. it's all about the oil..
If you are really using MTP, for extended periods it will pick up plenty of the local environment soon enough. Wet dirty kit darkens and takes on new shades etc.
It's all about Saudi and Israel. Oil is just a bonus.
Nick Thorp saying that as mtp washes it fades and gets even lighter, y about 5 washes it’s useless
@@Surv1ve_Thrive military hygiene rules dictates that u must wash your kit out in the field (whenever possible)
@@_--Reaper--_ why tell me this? I realise that, have had to do it. Doctrine is all very well when you can follow it. Kit like MTP is intended for use in battle, in war, thats the point of it, not for padding about barracks in even though that's what most will do as life is such. But it's there for if and when the wearer finds himself in combat. kit gets dirty in battle. Even if the conflict allows for some laundry its unlike barrack laundry. So...it needs to be looked at how it performs when wet and dirty. Which was my point. Even in training it will get wet and dirty for some time by the way!
I've been wearing the Type 95 for my early season deer hunting. It is still an outstanding pattern and does a great job of disguising me and my equipment.
My left ear enjoyed this
I have both and as others have said it depends on light levels.MTP in dusk conditions might have the edge. DPM is an old favorite in the woods. Good video, and, yes if the subject were hidden first it would give a better test. Interesting subject. Thanks for sharing. Just subbed you btw. Thanks
Wash your DPM a few times lighten it a bit, then it'll perform as well as MTP.
I have original MTP kit I traded from a few Brits in Camp Bastion, Afghanistan. I like the way it fits and the only downside is that its a bit light for real lush woodland environments, DPM is actually a bit dark. If you fade DPM a bit, it works pretty good, if you dye MTP in Rit dark brown slightly, it works better. My other option would be using PenCott Greenzone, that stuff is really good in woodland environments, I think it is the best so far. MARPAT is too dark and works better when faded quite a bit. Nonetheless, I thought you guys did a really good job on the video. Mine came out the same way when I used the HD feature, I now dont use it at all as the video quality better resembles real life. Are you making another video in the future? Do you have any MTP (new, unissued) shelters? I am looking into getting me a few ponchos in that pattern to see how it blends in, but i cannot find any material. Thanks guys.
***** Hi Eddie I have a MTP Basha that has been featured in a few of my videos, I am hoping to do another Camo test soon, thanks for the info, I will bear that in mind. Stay Safe
From the video footage I'd say using a DPM upper body and mtp lower body is the best route.... The mtp favours the ground foliage whereas the DPM favours the tree patterning and colours
let;s face it guys. if you're as close to another person as the 1st and seconds spots i think you'd be noticed whatever you're wearing! At the more useable 2nd spot the MTP was better. But what i propose is a half half camo outfit with one camo pattern to the front and one to the back in which you can position yourself towards/away from the ambient lighting conditions accordingly to further blend in?
I have a number of pieces of dpm kit, from Falklands era to more recent, and the variations in colour over the years, and from contractor to contractor is also worth noting. On an early 2000s dpm basha that I have, the light areas are almost a bright yellow/buff colour, which in my opinion break up the "dark" outline superbly. Looking at the pattern out of its intended environment, you'd think it was too bright, but in a typical British wood it is amazingly effective, more so than the mtp I reckon.
I have both myself and prefer the MTP/Multicam stuff myself. they do have pros and cons as said below, and in your test in a woodland setting I think the DPM "might" have the edge, purely based on tree bark darkness, but as MTP would be effective as a desert usage also, and thus dual purpose as per design, that does have it for me.
Cheers Jedi, I think I will come back to this test next year and try it again in a different season.
I have both and I like both. If I was hunting during the day, MTP. Low light, wet and lush green, DPM.
I prefer the DPM smock material for comfort and warmth.
It's the patterning that makes them both work so well. Almost hypnotic in its randomness.
When it's dry and brown grass land and dirt, DDPM is brilliant.
The DPM concept kit (soldier 95 or the old Nato standard kit) is better in our european enviroment but the muliticam kit is better in my view in dryier climates having worn both sets of kit.
Ten points for getting out in the bush fellas.
That was an interesting comparison, worthy of more study and thinking.
When I stealth wild camp in English woodland I found I had to camouflage my mtp basher....I now use a dpm one and don’t have to!
DPM seem to win that for me
When it comes to it, I was extremely surprised and impressed by the MTP against the dry grass and bracken of the Northumbrian landscape. In wet woodland it seems to morph and darken with the lighting. It's more effective, Ultimately that's what's most important !
I like DPM more for woodland
Thanks for the video. DPM in woodland and jungle is awesome. Thing of finely crafted work. However, It does get very dark when fully wet and can look almost black in some situations. Its not as great in urban scenarios, where fighting is extremely likely in a conflict. MTP is also awesome and really does what it says that it fits many terrains. Bear in mind for both you adopt some natural camo if really fighting anyway, mud, dust, concrete dust, brick dust etc plus foliage, sweet wrappers, wallpaper, cuddly toys etc can all be added on purpose in order to help blend in to terrain if things get very nasty indeed. Thanks for le vid. Liked.
The film compression doesn't help, but a good test is to jump to a frame where the person is still and see how easy it is to see them without the advantage of having just seen them move. Movement is easy to spot.
You are slightly comparing apples and oranges with this. DPM was designed in the mid 60s for temperate NW Europe, hence its green. (Desert DPM was issued for sunnier climates, when it was invented much later). MTP was designed due to soldiers moving from one area of vegetation to another while in the same theatre, i.e. when patrolling along the green zone in Afghanistan. If you wore desert DPM you were ok in the arid areas but stuck out like a dog's danglies in the irrigated areas. Of course this is reversed if you wore temperate DPM. MTP was designed to allow you to traverse both areas with the best chance at blending in. I have seen the presentation given by Defence Clothing to Army HQ giving the different types of patterns which were considered and what their discovery times were, it was actually quite surprising how well MTP did. I'd have to see if I still have it for the times.
So in conclusion, Temperate DPM was deigned for NW Europe , so should fit in better in UK when it's green. MTP should give you good concealment all year in all environments.
Oh yes and remember that CS 95 is a style of clothing, just the same as PCS is for MTP. DPM and MTP refers to the pattern, the other letters describe the style.
cnb1971 Are you in the British Army? If you are, do you know if you're allowed to wear your belt over the top? I was reading an article about it around the time of its issue and some of the comments came from active soldiers who were complaining about how the belt isn't shown, and it made the new uniform look "scruffy". Although, I went for my Selection last month and the lads there had their belts over the top. Does it depend on the setting?
+John Travolta is My Dad yes I am and until recently (about 6weeks ago) it was up to the local commander (CO or your unit Commander) as to what and how you wore uniform. The latest direction from Army HQ is that we are all to now tuck our Jackets into our trousers and wear green issue belts. No more stable belts! Hooray!
The ones who were complaining around the time of issue were muppets who are all about looking smart and every thing else is an embuggerence. 'Scruffy' is in the eye of the beholder and after a few years of working in a NATO HQ, jackets out look absolutely fine. The worst offenders are those who want to retain some form of identity such as the jocks and guards, especially with No2 dress. For me the clue is in the title, uniform! I'm all for history but....
Anyway. Bottom line is now jackets tucked in, with green belt.
cnb1971 Ah, that makes a lot of sense now. Thanks for clearing that up. What was you in?
Sorry, I read that wrong; I thought you said that you was in up until six weeks ago. What ARE you in?
Ha ha, no I am still i the RLC. The rules were changed about six weeks ago.
Dpm for dark woodland areas and mtp for lighter areas
They were both relatively effective; however, the MTP material appeared to be shinier. In the shadows, the MTP was very effective, but in the sunlight it had a gloss to it. Therefore, possibly more for the material it is made from I prefer the DPM.
MTP for sure mate! The lighter colour variations eliminate the body figure and blends into the natural bright/shades of the forest. Great simple demonstration! Thanks!
Interesting comparison.... both did well in their perspective areas and I believe there is a place for both. I have always favoured DPM but I am biased based on the period of my own service. In two or 3 weeks, you kit will be so dirty it will be naturally camouflaged........ :)
Wow it's hard to choose, they both do such a good job! Great post!
I have been collecting and using both. I can say when it comes to manufacturing quality DPM wins hands down! The MTP jacket has far too much velcro on it, and it is a pain in the ass. But the main thing I couldn't believe about the MTP clothing, is that it is made in China! No wonder this country has gone to the dogs! !
I love the DPM camouflage, I really do, but the MTP really does camouflage you better
I'd say at a distance in the environment you are in there, the 95 pattern is more effective camoflague. The more modern stuff might me more appropriate to an urban environment with it's greys, I can see it fitting a greater range of landscapes. For our woodlands here in England (and the UK generally in my experience) you can't really beat DPM.
The first position you both showed pretty good, the DFM slight better because of its darkness. Second position both blended good. Thrid position DFM slightly better at unrecognition. .
I thought that MTP was to light!
I presume that different times of the day would have different light levels, thus meaning more test needed.
During briefing for a CASEVAC ex our CO emerged from the trees and wasn't noticed until he'd left the treeline whist wearing MTP. Definitely worked well with the light barked trees in British woodland. Even though I like DPM, I'm more of an MTP kinda girl; I love getting new Gucci kit. PCS is so much better than CS95 too
Hi. The MTP stood out like a sore thumb when you crouched near the darker areas of the we tree trunk. But was effective in areas that the leaves were lighter. DPM was better where dark/shaded areas were available. Use of natural camo would increase the effectiveness of both types. Also selection of your route to work with form and siloete.
Being still, the DPM is better. I thought that It would be my choice. The last few seconds of this video when both of you were walking towards the camera. DPM is the dead guy. MTP, I saw second...
The DPM is too dark, but as an alternative, try the Dutch DPM, it's slightly lighter and softer, and therefore more effective in my opinion.
I like the DPM better and for hunting feel it's much more effective here in upstate NY. Our killing ground is very heavily vegetated with many trees and some scrub. An 80 yard shot around here doesn't come often.
Both have their merits
DPM seemed to get darker as time went on, the lighter, earlier stuff was fantastic, the later stuff was prone to ''blobbing'', could never figure out why they were always trying to fix it when it wasn't broke!!
jelkel25 I agree DPM got much darker from the 1980s onwards and the earlier colours used in it were actually closer to what MTP is nowadays. I used to think that it was just because the older surplus stuff was worn and washed out but I tend to think it was just because of poor quality control when the MOD switched and changed manufacturers
jelkel... yep, I agree. The dyes used in the British DPM pattern were darkened in an attempt to improve the material's anti infra-red signature, which it did. However, to the naked eye during daylight... it's a big, big mistake. My old smock and trousers that I was issued during the early 80's (handed a rougher set in to the QM when I de-mobed) has the lighter tones, mid green and a more russet brown colouring... and is way superior to any of the 90's kit, for sure !
Both looked great but I'd have to go with the first one Michael. It may have been the time of year, but second pattern seemed a bit light in color against the background. JMHO
The quality of your camo depends on your surroundings.personally, I prefer to break myself up a bit more. I did go with the newer camo Brit basha, while my trousers are US Army woodland, jacket is dark olive drab , and my pack is USMC MARPAT. Had my girlfriend walk out a bit in that, and she disappeared very quickly.
I use MultiCam/ MTP for the spring and summer and flecktarn/ DPM for autumn and winter.
I think the patterns depend on the terrain. The DPM looks good in your environment, probably best in a shaded woods or in overcast, but in a drier environment the MTP would show better, I'd think.
I think originally DPM was designed with woodland / forest in mind. Think European theatre with infantry mainly in forested areas facing USSR forces.
The original patterns of DPM from the 60s and 70s used lighter shades of green and brown. The colours just got darker as time went on. Just an observation.
Overall if you use vegetation from the local area to cam your kit MTP might be better.
Have a look at dancam (danish camo) ideal for that type of woodland, dpm is too dark when new and mtp too light for a lot of conditions. Used to use austrian amoeba pattern for autumn with a bit of hessian added takes some beating, keep up the good work like your positive mental attitude its a key to survival. for more on camo try looking for camopedia it covers most types atb J.
Great video. DPM is better as its concept is similar to the American Woodland and the Tigerstripe patterns. The new Camos now are just a patch to fix what did not need fixing.
+ratagris21 new camo patterns are for soldiers abroad like iraq/afghanistan
ratagris21 the mtp looks like a lighter verstion of us ocp
When you stand near big trees DPM is much-much better because if brown spots. But for second place MTP was really brilliant. But what also can I say - now, in winter, around trees here in Ukraine even when ground is covered with snow, but when you are in the forest DPM works very well. Though we didn't do any comparison with MTP.
I'm no expert but I'd say in this terrain DPM would work better while standing or crouched but MTP would be better in prone.
They both have there places in different conditions. I like the darker camo better for the area I live in.Good video, thank you.
In my opinion, DPM in fading light and when standing. MTP in bright conditions and when prone as it seems to work better against grass/dead leaves on the forest floor
I'd say the dpm was the better all round camo in this test but I did think at the 2nd further point the mtp was brilliant would not have known you were there if I did not see you walk there
Atb Steve
Damir Pryce Agreed, DPM works great in dense woodland, especially when the season is damp and colours are dark, MTP seems to blend better with earth tones so works better across a wide range of light woodland, grass and arid areas.
I've noticed with my MTP that the colours definitely seem to trick your eye, laying it on some khaki gear it blends with that but lay it down on some green gear and the greens start to stand out and it blends with that instead.
DPM would definitely work better at night though, MTP looks a little too pale in the moonlight.
DPM doesn't work as good in twilight compared to MTP, with DPM it looks like a big dark blob which is quite noticeable, as ambient light gets brighter every year, MTP is just going to get better, it disappears quicker than DPM in these lighter conditions at night as well, don't get me wrong DPM is better than MTP in darker coloured woodland and jungle environment.
Hi guys, well im DPM till i die, but i gotta say that the further back the MTP went back in the woods the more difficult it became to see. DPM works much better when there is a little less light. Either way, great effort lads. Greetings from Ibiza.
To analyse this a little you have to consider the reasons for the DPM and the MTP. DPM was designed to be used in UK woodlands and as a result it's darker and blends in better at home in the UK. 90% of military patrols happen at night and for a UK Woodland environment DPM is perfect. You could be standing right next to someone in DPM at night in the woods and walk straight past without noticing. MTP was created to act as a Multi Terain material as 99% of operations the UK forces are involved in now are on foreign soil. MTP is lighter to take into account the terrain being more open and lighter such as desert and remote and bare mountainous environment. DPM for the UK woodland environment for me is better than MTP. MTP is so light in colour that it stands out totally against a darker background and would catch the moonlight. I served for 10 years so have quite a lot of experience with Camo.
carroj9 It's designed for Northern Hemisphere woodland. Hence it's good for almost any woodland environment and perfect in the UK. It works well in Europe because the woodland and forest landscapes are very similar to back home. Operations in Afghan and Iraq forced the change from DPM. There is very little woodland in those countries and dpm is useless.
Here is a funny one for you. In Iraq we called the Aussies the Ice Cream boys....... their desert camo made them look like ice cream sellers
Clansman...woodland DPM was designed to face the threat, which was primarily Soviet so not just for UK woodland but European woodland, fields etc. A minor point but important historically etc.
I think they both have pros and cons depending on the light and terrain. Great tests James, thanks for sharing. ATB Shaun
MTP was designed with many potential theatres in mind.MTP has been tested all over the world. The deficiencies with DPM were recognised in Afghanistan. DPM was not just designed for UK. Woodland DPM for woodland etc in general, particularly in Europe where the Soviets were high on the threat list. A version of desert DPM was developed during trials with an additional shade, so closer to multicam. This was sold to Iraq at the time (in the 80s?) so could not be adopted by the UK. We went with the sort of white and tan colours only, brighter. Shame as is an improvement having more complex nature, pics can be found of it online in use by Iraqi forces at the time.
DPM for wooded areas in the UK, plus I think it looks better than MTP around the camp anyway.
MTP was designed to be used across multiple terrains, whereas before you had 2 sets of DPM, one for desert conditions and one for woodland.
MTP will never be as good as using a dedcicated pattern to match a particular terrain, but it's halved the production cost of producing 2 sets of combats for everyone, which is probably the main reason it was introduced, to save the government money...
Personally, i use DPM as it suits me better (playing in a woodland area) and when i come across others using MTP in these environments, they stick out so easily, they may as well be wearing arctic camouflage or none at all. I'll be using DPM in an urban environment where i'm sure i'll see a mixture of MTP, DPM, black and more so it will be interesting which one seems to work the best with an urban area containing dark corridors and light outdoor areas.
MTP is a bit bright close up but blends in well in light coloured foliage. DPM a bit dark close up but both I think blend in weel. How abought doing the test later on in the day I.e. near dusk?
I'm in the ATC, and when I joined 2 years ago, I was issued DPM. Now the uniform is altering to MTP. Personally, I think MTP would be more useful for soldiers fighting in afghan and desert terrain, yet DPM is clearly more suited for forestry camo...I think they should keep both and alter to suit their surroundings.
They were equally visible at the closest posision. And they both did extremely well at distance, however the mtp did alittle better i think because the mtp is closer to the colors of the surroundings.
Predator.....Brilliant, Thanks for watching!
I agree with many comments.
DPM is better in Woodland and dense jungle.
I was never found wearing it night or day..
MTP is better in light woods & grass though, or warmer countries.
I've not had to evade capture wearing MTP though. Yet.
The answer is simple, MTP, DPM will have several advantages over MTP in the spring and summer, but what about winter and autumn? If you’re planning on being able to change uniforms in accordance with the seasons, DPM is your best bet, however, if you’re planning to only be wearing one pattern, be it because of a financial issue or an extreme survival issue, MTP is your best bet, it blends with almost all environments and you can almost always drop and cover your MTP with the foliage around you to adapt to any environment at all, yes, even snow, I’ve found that MTP works exceptionally well in Arid as well as tundra environments.
I also have both dpm and mtp as I do a lot of hunting and it all depends of the colour of the foliage the dpm in this video does better against the darker surroundings just as the mtp does better against the lighter surrounding on an average scale there both as good as each other because they both have good and bad points great video through guy it sparked a great discussion
Both camos do what they're designed for but, in a woodland environment CS95 excels where as MTP does better in Desert/tropical areas
Depends I use both I Find DPM is better in damp conditions and MTP is better in dry Conditions to me it’s all about hiding the shape of you body so they both work well to me.
Sounds like a cost-cutting measure trying to get a one camo fits all situations with the MTP. Having said that I thought up close DPM was far superior, farther away there wasn’t much in it. I think up close in desert MTP would have bossed the DPM.
They are both good enough, movement is what draws attention to you.
The MTP seemed to be less detectable when you started to move.
Keep your movement slow, cover all skin with camo to avoid the shine off your skin.
In the woods MTP works better in spring or in autumn, there're more fallen leaves and stuff. DPM is greener and IMHO better for hiding behind a bush or in tall grass.
All in all MTP is multi-terrain, because it's more versatile - usable as in the woods so as in the desert. Like little of everything, but not too much of each.
DPM won simply because the patern uses darker based colors, which blends better to the background and trees because of the overall tone of the shaded forest floor. I would like to state that the MTL was a better match for the breaks of light ( brighter parts) in between the trees and brush; however given the fact that they just walked around and didn't actually use any concealment techniques I can't give a true evaluation on either DPM, or MTL camo.
I think DPM is better I woodland such as I the UK and MTP is more designed for Afghan, but I prefer the technical advances in the MTP more,eg.pit zips, enclosed buttons,drain holes in pockets etc.both outstanding jackets though,or should I say not "outstanding".
Great comparison vid, it's DPM for me...... But if either reduce casualties of our guys and girls in theatre it's all good !
The darker one won although at the further point both were on par if not the lighter one tiny bit better, maybe the darker one was better because nothing in the wood is as light as the lighter jacket?
I still own one pair of DPM trousers (cold climate) with the Velcro gaiter fastening and the old, shiny green buttons. I think they are earlier issue than Soldier 95, I think possibly mid 80s to 88 pattern. I find my MTP kit & brown Haix boots are still useful for grounds work (& in my opinion) are a more effective camo than the DPMs, but (& I know it isn't the point or purpose of camouflage) I much, much prefer the DPM pattern. When the govt introduced MTP as a part of the PECOC Programme it was universally unpopular amongst the troops, In much the same way that a UN blue top (beret) is less desirable than a regimental lid (british cap badge & beret). I think the issue there was that it is a derivative of the US pattern Multicam and not a "British" design. I remember one comment- A Light Dragoon saying he felt like he didn't look like a British soldier.
I own a MTP pcs and a DPM cs95, I must say that I find that dpm can be too dark at times, also it really does depend on where u r, mtp tends 2 camouflage u much better though. Also I find it more comfortable. At night it doesn't matter which you wear, dpm is dark anyway and the mtp becomes looks darker at night. BTW this is at times when it is pitch black and you have to do 5 he ghost walk and the cat crawl and all that stuff just to get around.
I think your second and third stops you were a bit more in the dead space and the MTP worked a little better. Your first post your were right up on the tree and the MTP stuck out pretty bad.
sensors now days can pick up body heat ,camo not much good ,when the enemy is seing eluminues white figure in his sights.But both seem to work,depending back ground.
I personally prefer the MTP because, it does what it was made to do. They made it both for woodland and desert environments.
What about making a pattern that is in between these two?
Litreally just thought that haha
I think it all depends upon the season as colours change dramatically. MTP will work better in autumn but DPM better in the height of summer. Although they both work really well, its like viewing a piece of abstract art. The human eye will psychologically and automatically, inform the brain to seek out a face or recognisable human shape. I think its not the colours, its the necessity of breaking up of the body pattern/outline against any given backdrop that provides the best camouflage. nice 1
hi guys
thx for video. i think the mtp is to light when u were in shady areas. can u test in non woodland, ie desert, urban, mountain areas. to give us an idea of how they work.coz this is why they made mtp.
I love DPM, It's still a great camo, but the MTP does blend better during movement.
MTP works better but DPM looks better
unless i genuinely needed to hide for a very good reason (like the militery have) id be working with DPM
i love the style and fit of the mtp, but i have to say it should be theatre specific, like desert dpm was, issued for hot light foliage dusty places, dpm works far better than mtp in the wet woodland dark greens and browns of european theatre, i have both uniforms, i wear mtp as it is current and gucci, but for field work i go for dpm every time! great video lads well done,
I think both are good, but one is too light and the other too dark for your surroundings. That said I think the MTP is blends better with the negative spaces. The darker DPM has a good disruptive pattern, but one just looks like a dark figure in most instances. My eyes gets drawn to it to determine what the dark object is.
DPM all the way is my opinion.Very good here in Finlands forests,been using it about 20 years now.Just as good as new Finnish one.
may I just say these two did not do either camo justice as wearing them just as 'the uniform ' doesn't disrupt body shape. secondly mtp is multipurpose and when use correctly is effective in temperate landscape to jungle to desert. dpm however is a temperate landscape camouflaged.