Bill Mollison explains a Trompe

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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    Bill Mollison explains a Trompe:
    Beginning with a small stream, we can let it out, leading it towards a box tunnel into which the water can free fall. At the top of this tunnel, we can install a large funnel apparatus with holes drilled into it and pipes, like drinking straws, leading to the holes and creating tiny air bubbles. As the water falls through the funnel, it pulls air with it into the tunnel, and because the water is falling faster than the tiny air bubbles, the air becomes trapped below. We can design a large underground chamber into which the air bubbles collect and become highly compressed with the water moving on unused. This air is isothermically compressed.
    Isothermically compressed air is tremendously useful. It’s very clean, free of the vaporized oil found in air out of compressed, which means it could be used for scuba diving. More significantly, though, a little pipe could be run to the chamber, and isothermically compressed air can be attached to a shop with a spigot to give access to it. That air could then be used to drive any machine, i.e. power tools. It could be led into an insulated room and released as refrigeration and freezing. It could be bottled and used to run motors, actual cars, with the exhaust being cold rather than hot.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 54

  • @claytonjohnson6031
    @claytonjohnson6031 4 роки тому +35

    I'm a teacher and I might start saying "speak bastard" to call on my students now. Thank you, Bill!

  • @christopherfisher128
    @christopherfisher128 2 роки тому +6

    Ok, older video I know but this is probably the single most valuable video I have watched so far!!
    The initial expense/labor may be tough but the pay off!! Thanks so much for sharing :)

  • @MrChiahgoo
    @MrChiahgoo 7 років тому +11

    This guy is a genius! Wish I could have met him. Thanks for the share

  • @BradKaellner
    @BradKaellner 2 роки тому +8

    Who knew you could run an entire machine shop and freezer on falling water! Mind blown

  • @rusticraver82
    @rusticraver82 3 роки тому +3

    Brilliant lecture. Fascinating man.

  • @nickryan4066
    @nickryan4066 7 років тому +38

    An epic food forest with little compressed air powered motorcycles to get around on. My dream is taking shape.

    • @kingblaze7227
      @kingblaze7227 7 років тому +2

      hahahaha fuck yea exactly what i was thinking.

    • @queeniebaggins3732
      @queeniebaggins3732 7 років тому

      Sounds like bliss 😊

    • @shanekonarson
      @shanekonarson 5 років тому +4

      Love to see someone build a Trompe and have a quad bike running off compressed air . And put it on UA-cam. American guy built a small one and ran a Nail gun of a Trompe .

    • @shanekonarson
      @shanekonarson 5 років тому +1

      ua-cam.com/video/bsTK-BiUgtg/v-deo.html

    • @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
      @voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 4 роки тому

      I just use a folding bicycle.

  • @LilianaUsvat
    @LilianaUsvat 2 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @DiscoverPermaculture
    @DiscoverPermaculture  6 років тому +9

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed_air_car
    To achieve mass trompe power we need to swale, dam and re-hydrate our hill catchment which will reforest the world by default : )

  • @byrdhemenway369
    @byrdhemenway369 2 місяці тому

    Best video ever love this

  • @aptorres01
    @aptorres01 Рік тому +2

    Sounds fascinating. Are there any examples of this in practice ?

    • @octane7047
      @octane7047 Рік тому +1

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressed-air_car

    • @octane7047
      @octane7047 Рік тому +2

      Also check Ragged Chute hydropower plant in Canada. In the full version of the lecture, Bill mentioned about how oil companies bought over compressed air car companies in 1935 to close them, removed books about this technology from libraries and tried to patent the trompe. Our dependence on fossil fuel nowadays is entirely forceful. The power players that control this energy wilfully removed/hindered all other options

  • @VeganChiefWarrior
    @VeganChiefWarrior 7 років тому +1

    sounds good i might use that 1 day

  • @planetbob4709
    @planetbob4709 6 років тому +7

    1 atmosphere = 14psi
    15' drop in water = 1 atmosphere.
    Thoughts on practical application
    1. Run the compressed air through a cooling radiator.
    a. refrigeration
    b. air conditioning
    c. power tools.
    d. power generation.
    e. vehicles.

  • @joseph.langifisi
    @joseph.langifisi Місяць тому

    imagine building a large scale trompe under a waterfall 🤯

  • @samuelreed2994
    @samuelreed2994 2 роки тому +2

    This is the real reason they built the pyramids. The “lingam” was actually where the water would fall to release the air into the hyperbaric chamber.

  • @AndrewHunt-w5j
    @AndrewHunt-w5j Рік тому

    good

  • @mohammedfrancis
    @mohammedfrancis 7 років тому +3

    Sounds lovely.....but is it practical?

    • @bellacheamaria7539
      @bellacheamaria7539 7 років тому +2

      They apparently ran two cites on it imagine trompe & primary source water ??

    • @mohammedfrancis
      @mohammedfrancis 7 років тому

      Bellachea Maria Well, it's s a 16th C concept used today to clean up dirty water (UA-cam). Otherwise, not much else!

    • @rthickling
      @rthickling 7 років тому +3

      It is a way of harnessing hydro power: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe.
      Note that it needs to operate on a slope with a water source: the water exiting has to be on a lower level.

    • @rdh-daliasjb3796
      @rdh-daliasjb3796 7 років тому +9

      Abu Hamza Mohammed - Sorry Abu, total lack of imagination on your part. Are you saying that compressed air can't drive machinery?
      It's applications are myriad, clean and cheap, once the infrastructure is in place.

    • @DiscoverPermaculture
      @DiscoverPermaculture  6 років тому +7

      Hi Richard the water needs to fall at terminal velocity to get the most pressure in the shortest distance. 100 feet or 35m will get a good pressure for compressed air engines which will have freezing temperature pure air exhaust.

  • @annoyingbstard9407
    @annoyingbstard9407 2 роки тому

    So the water goes into the chamber…..and then inexplicably goes out of the chamber again. 😅

    • @MannElite
      @MannElite 5 місяців тому

      yeah I don't get it... seems like it would work once, then the chamber would just fill with water and you'd stop getting downward flow of water.

  • @atomicsmith
    @atomicsmith 7 років тому

    I've never heard of these cars he's talking about. There was a recent attempt to make compressed air cars, but it was not nearly as efficient as he describes...

    • @dreadragonflame7224
      @dreadragonflame7224 7 років тому +4

      Search: engineair and Angelo Di Pietro and his rotary air motor design, it's not just cars, the same motor can be used to power just about anything, the more power required, the more motors you add so everything is interchangeable and NO LUBRICANTS required. Not surprising that virtually nobody has heard of them. There are limitations though in colder climates.

    • @shanekonarson
      @shanekonarson 5 років тому

      Adam Mackey Smith ua-cam.com/video/bsTK-BiUgtg/v-deo.html

    • @christopherfisher128
      @christopherfisher128 2 роки тому +1

      You'd have to go back all the way to the 19th century, Before the original robber barons 'cornered the market"

  • @MrRobertjparsons
    @MrRobertjparsons 4 роки тому

    luv this guy but it NOT a perpetual motion system. The descending water full of bubbles is Less Dense than the de-bubbled return rising water, therefor a Pump is required in the model, which uses as much energy as was in the compressed bubbles. His physics were getting a bit shaky there. sorry, jus sayin. don't hate. Try cellulosic alcohol as motor fuel, still green but Actually works.

    • @davidhampton180
      @davidhampton180 3 роки тому +7

      It’s not meant to be a perpetual motion system.the idea is to use water running naturally off high terrain,pumping not needed,got it

    • @annoyingbstard9407
      @annoyingbstard9407 2 роки тому

      It’s not even a viable energy system of any sort.

  • @MaximusShantaro
    @MaximusShantaro 4 роки тому +2

    his accent is so weird i could barely understand anything.

  • @samuelreed2994
    @samuelreed2994 2 роки тому +1

    That’s why they built the pyramids.