NEXT LEVEL POND DESIGN
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2023
- Permaculture Instructor Andrew Millison visits a site in Oregon that has installed an extensive series of masterfully built ponds that have renewed the water supply in a dry valley. The site is called The Ground, and you can find more about the site here:
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The project was designed and installed by Zachary Weiss of Water Stories: www.waterstories.com/
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Water Stories is an online community of water regenerators and Zachary has installed many epic water systems around the globe with his business, Elemental Ecosystems:
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You can learn a lot more about his work at Water Stories.
More about The Ground:
Tabula Rasa Farms, the Ground's founding regenerative farm, spans 440 acres and is home to over 80 cattle, 75 pigs, 1,000 chickens, 500 ducks, 200 turkeys, and many vegetable crops. Over time, Brenda and her husband, Frank, have begun other enterprises-a farm store for farm-to-table sales, a bed and breakfast immersed within the farm, a restaurant in McMinnville serving farm-fresh food, and others. The Ground is fundamentally about connecting people to their food, their planet, and each other.
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This was great. Beavers used to do this free on every creek.
@@johnpage9472 haha good one! I just meant that humans have changed the landscape so much that beavers are not able to do this on every creek. Look up jakob shockey’s work. He did a great interview with Bret Weinstein. ✌️
@@johnpage9472 As of my latest information, they do not run on electricity.
And they still do! and WE still do. At every opportunity I enhance beaver habitat to create "bonus" ponds and lakes for our clients. However we do this with an eye to the entire watershed because that is what the beaver really need.
I love how we're realized the old ways worked better and we are working to return to them.
@@TigerLily61811absolutely:)
This was done in Sri Lanka in ancient times, it was done in large scale, lake systems that nurtured acres of forests and acres of farm land. This was made a intangible world heritage by Unesco aswell
Yes so many ancient systems were developed and often abandoned. I see Permaculture as pointing to those old systems and innovations. Water abundance not scarcity.
@@CharlesGann1 I remember reading once, there used to be 40,000 reservoirs in Dehli. and now there are none. From water abundance to water scarcity. All in the name of profit and insatiable greed.
@@00Tenrai00in name of stupidity cause it's proven that the financial gains are bigger with these sistems.
Basicly it increses the output from investment.
Where can I learn more about that?
@@00Tenrai00this is soo true
Fixing the hydrological system one property at a time. Hell yeah! I am starting to feel like I'm changing from a pessimist to an optimist for my children's future.
It can be done!
That's the dream! With the water stories community we are creating a global movement to make this dream a reality.
It's great to hear these stories of elegant solutions.
From Mollison to Millison, Permaculture is (imo) salvation and sanity in an otherwise upside down world. (Not forgetting everyone else, of course, just couldn't resist the name thing).
My name is just a fortunate twist of fate :-)
@@amillison Nature rhymes (or somesuch 💚)
You’re very right. Permaculture is the future and past of humankind and our connection to earth
Nice
This project actually wasn't developed using permaculture at all, but much like Sepp's work it's being called permaculture because it's a living example of what permaculture theorizes. How to get there is the important piece where permaculture often comes up short.
Wonderfull! I am a hydro engineer in Romania EU.. here we have strong legislation too, and I am very hapy to see this kind of videos! Thanks a lot! Respect!
Those overhead shots are what I use to illustrate to people how they can build a "chain of ponds" anywhere they find a shallow crease or fold in the land. You know that when it rains.... the water will flow down that natural gutter. So, if you put some small blockades, the Beaver Dam Analogs, along the way, you create a chain of very small little ponds that will do exactly what this larger version does. Sure, the water might soak into the ground within an hour, but that's okay. When you have a million little folds in the ground all slowing down a little bit of rainfall so it can soak into the ground, that's a huge win.
Many people make the mistake of thinking that if the water isn't held at the surface the system isn't working. But the real benefit comes when the water is IN the ground, spreading and watering far beyond the boundaries of the "pond"
@@peterellis4262 Yep. That's why I often don't try. I just show them images like this, and point out how even the smallest crease in the land is just a smaller version of what we see here..... and something everyone can "dam up" to give the rainfall a chance to sink in.
Yeah, that's so true. Slowing down the water gives it more of a chance to soak in. If I ever get the chance to own a property like this I would love to do something like that.
@@russellfrancis813 Don't wait until you own some land. All public lands are sadly in need of some help, and every tiny fold, dry as it might be at the moment, will become a gutter for the rains when the next storm comes. So, get out there and put in a few blockades on your next walk. A few twigs and leaves, strategically placed, can make a huge difference.
Absolutely. Strategic terracing has drastically slowed the movement of water across the land allowing for greater absorption.
I keep finding that here in germany the regulators are also looking for things to fit the existing box. But most regulators that came onto our farm and watched our mobile chicken but her where really exited that we can do it differently. Can't wait to plan our ponds and agroforestry systems this winter
Sounds like a pondsy scheme to me :)
STAHP 😂
Gotta watch out for those multi-level watering systems as well
We did this on my place multiple tall hills with a valley in between. 8 large ponds back to back, completely changed the landscape. Coal mine destroyed the water table so we needed a way to water our plant nursery, orchards, and cows.
This system was already applied during the 14th century in my home town Ternat in Belgium.... you can still see it in Gaasbeek ( a nearby town) and the castle of the 12th century
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The ponds are awesome, but its beautiful that they are grazing regeneratively. Getting started where people have ample funds and education is much easier than situations where people don't have the extra funds, and may not have the prior experience. I enjoy the more simple situations that anyone can take part in.
Amazing story!! 🌱
Thanks for sharing
Slow, Spread, Sink and Share the Wisdom! Thanks for this inspiring video!
Those ponds are lovely. Can't wait to see them 20 years from now!
1% grade on the pond to pond road drain is 1/8” per foot. Plumbers use that 1/8” fall in buildings where the sewer connection is too high for standard 1/4”/foot fall. The pipe at 1/8” fall must be 4” diameter minimum.
Street sewer pipes are often run at 1/8” fall as the flow is adequate to carry solids downstream.
Not only is it beautiful ,but well designed . Thank you for sharing .
I imagine the super productive farm wouldn't be there without the water they captured /created
Thank you so much for your videos, Andrew❤❤❤❤
This is exactly how my neighborhood ponds in SW Florida are constructed. When it rains, there are multiple trickle ponds that the water has to pass through before entering the intracoastal waterway. There is much greenery all around these ponds which, in its own is a completely native ecosystem!
whenever i see one of these impressive projects, it always seems like its still a couple decades away from being fully grown in. I'd like to see a very mature system like this
Sepp Holzer's Krameterhof is what you are looking for
Beautiful site. Love the 3 year timeline. This can be used everywhere instead of desert everywhere.
I love stuff like this
Thank you! You are welcome to visit the project, farm, and accommodations anytime.
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Thanks for the discussion of permitting and how/why this approach is different than simply stealing water from downstream. There would be a lot less water shortages if these small scale structures were everywhere as opposed to being rare.
Usually the problem is the opposite. Deforestation means more water goes downstream and becomes flooding. So this simply slows water down. Also means creeks and rivers won’t get dry when there is less rain.
@@emifer5356 it's a remarkable system, by taking advantage of what nature has to offer we can have less flooding and less drought.
It's so good to see a success story of working with regulators. Having the civil courage to do the work and the grace and poise to make the work understood is incredibly important and paves the way for the next project. This is the way change happens. Congratulations, Zach.
It can be done. In our experience, regulators are often unaware of the benefits and positive impacts that permaculture installations can provide. The more people who engage in the work and go through the permitting process, the greater chance meaningful change can occur at the regulatory level.
Spot on, we all need to have civil courage and do what is right by nature if we are going to climb out of the mess we've created. Brenda and Frank have been amazing in this regard, helping to pave the path for others!
You can absolutely blame any individuals involved with producing behaviors that create harmful consequences. That would be the logical, rational, and/or reasonable thing to do. Agricultural activities are protected in many states despite local ordinances that saying otherwise. Trust me, I would know from my experience the last 6 months in PA. The police sent codes to violate my rights (denied access, trespassed to obtain evidence) as a form of intimidation. This is a beautiful project that should be encouraged and incentivized all over the country without unnecessary government interference.
@lavidawithjoey TPTB are running scared their time is running out however the next 11 years will be increasingly difficult for us chattel
Great video , good conversations between regulations and making changes to the ecosystems.
As a specialist water harvester I am very disappointed. Although there are innovations, again it is a fail for not designing food forest systems and reverting to animal grazing systems. What a shame.
When I saw the ponds, I straight away knew it was Zach Weiss work, he has a way to design water harvesting structures that is very much his personal touch on the landscape, kind of like a painter would have his/her own style on its masterpiece.
Thanks for pinpointing beautiful projects, Andrew 12:51 ❤
Zach Weiss and the Water Stories team have been amazing to work with. He worked closer with Brenda to create installations that combined function, beauty, and are interactive.
Thank you, this is a wonderful compliment. People call permaculture a design science, and in response I call this strategy an awareness art. Your comment is the highest praise we could hope for. :-)
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Such an amazing project by @waterstories and Zach. It was really great to follow the development of the project in the course.
Amazing story, Andrew, amazing! Thank you!
Awesome!
Hi Andrew!
Great watching this!
After completing your PDC I did something almost exactly like this on my property!
We're in the middle of El Nino and my trees are still green!
Great job Andrew, keep on inspiring with these stories. You’re one video away from causing a revolution of change for the good of the land. Bravo.
I live less than 20 miles from this place and didn't know anything about it. Very cool. I'm a native Oregonian and have been to lots of other states and haven't found anything better than Oregon. The water, the air and, tree's are what make Oregon so great. Keeping Oregon Green and pollution free is the key to our health and survival. We must do all we can to preserve this.
Hello neighbor, I was thinking the same thing! Wishing you the best on your journey of preservation. I am trying to do what I can while living in an apartment until I am in a place to be on the land.
I would agree. Beautiful state, but then there is Portland and zero chance for a conservative to see his vote matter. No thanks.
@@danothemano1 I see and share your point. But can you say that your Vote really matters in any state? The voting system is rigged to one agenda to make you feel like you have a vote. So in the mean time I'll stay in Oregon with less issues and more clean air, water and cheap power and other resources.
Excellent presentation! The PDC online was great, giving me that which I needed to continue my permaculture dreams on my small farm in Costa Rica. Thank you, Andrew and your team! So grateful!
Thank you for sharing.
LOVE & HUGS
Love these stories, and lessons. Thanks for making this video Andrew and team!
Beautiful and sensible. Awesome 👍
Water is life. Thank you for the wisdom and bringing the place to life ❤❤❤
Hello, from BC.
Thanks for this, Andrew! UA-cam recommended this, and I appreciate it because it is very encouraging because it is a success story.
This planet and the landscape is so neat that it allows permacultre based earth/water projects to be crafted big and small. Even a tiny sloped 10' run along a side yard that would otherwise be a drain and pipe, could be transformed into a micro ecosystem using the concepts of flow and retention :) Thanks for this grand example and inspiration!
SIMPLEMENTE ESPECTACULAR. FROM LONDON. GRACIAS
Wow, great work, y'all! Makes me proud to live in this region. I can't wait to have my own land to steward and create my own shangri la with medicinal herb sanctuary.
When money is no object
I learn from you many thanks, and I want you say thank you so so much!
Now they just need a Viktor Shauberger inspired water fountain for the ponds. RIP Viktor
This is really cool and all, but doesn't that leave another valley starved for water?
Very nicely done! I think a lot of people miss that the biggest value when slowing the flow is to force as much water underground as possible.
as opposed to the water evaporating into the atmosphere?
@@LegendaryGelder yes, that and faster water flows cause increased erosion of the soils, which makes them less fertile.
Absolutely. One of the springs we tapped in 2020 originally was flowing at a rate of 6 gallons per second. When we tested it 2 years later, it was at 12 gallons per second!
So cool!! Serious Sepp Holzer vibes.
Zach is Sepp Holzer's protege
This project wouldn't be possible without the incredible mentorship and vision that Sepp provided me. So grateful for that incredible human!!!
We need you in LA Professor Millison. You should be redesigning the LA River. Lot's of opportunity for local ponds through LA, instead we shoot the water out to the ocean as fast as possible.
This is literally the exact model I want for my family and future homestead. I’m in trade school to become an electrician so I can make a living but also learn to wire this pump system for a super long term permaculture catchment system. I’m aiming to start this in the next 2 years in the El Dorado or Placer county hills of California. Please follow me for future content.
Love watching your videos!
It's amazing and Very well designed!!!
This project was executed beautifully. If only everyone had access to the finances required to source the knowledgeable & experienced people who can customise this type of permaculture terracing to each client's topography.
So exciting that they were able to permit this! I hope it can be a reference for other people who want to do something similar.
We hope it can be as well!
"Permits" are the problem lol
explaing ot the government what you want to do by digging holes in your land is rediculous. @@chriskay7233
@@chriskay7233 No, there are not. I saw many people who did landslide with similar projects, or flood basement other peoples.
@@rik0904ok well maybe the government will protect you and prevent that from happening..... Since landslides don't happen as long as something gets "certified" by a state sponsored bully.
Look up Duke Farms located in New Jersey. Some of the largest man made ponds and pretty much hand dug , with a very similar design. Also open to public and a very beautiful park in Hillsboro NJ.
Thank you for including the bit on permitting
Great design work Eric and thank you Andrew for making this informative video. Good to know that permits became retroactive... and that people can make small changes with big positive impacts.
Astounding just marvelous
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What lovely people!
These people should be our leaders
Awesome project, wow! Thank you!
Brilliant!
Absolutely love this. Hope it really starts to catch on. Also, in the unlikely event you see this, I'd encourage you to get in contact with Shaun Overton of Dustups Ranch, who is documenting his attempt and process of trying to turn his patch of desert in Texas into a desert forest, which it originally was. He's learning slowly over time, but I am sure someone like yourself would be such a huge aid to him and his efforts!
The more people who engage in this work, the better!
@@TheGroundOR Absolutely! And as a fellow Oregonian, thank you for what you're doing!
It's a beautiful property what a beautiful piece of land and the way you laid it out it is just pure genius .❤
Very inspiring to see people create beauty.
Awesome 👍
Awesome job! brilliant ideas to conserve water for life of the communities!
Amazing!
Farm I grew up on had successive ponds (Appalachia) and it never shrunk our local creek. When someone dammed the creek, THAT screwed things up. Killed downstream life, etc., and by the time we got the dam removed, life didn't recover for nearly 15 years in the creek. Believe: keeping water in ponds keeps it in the ground, which keeps the water table happy, which means creeks are happy!
Amazing project ! Love how they have added to the landscape more that what they take from it. Always a great sign of sustainability. I keep seeing a lot of uncovered soil all over this farm. I was wondering if they have considered seeding some of that place into a meadow of locally native wildflowers and grasses. It will add such a boost to the biodiversity while also bringing in a great variety of pollinators and natural pest control organisms through their farm. Also, meadow in bloom is a great view to have while sipping some nice coffee :).
I am from Sri Lanka we built this System 2000 years before (Ellanga system)“Ellanga Gammana” or Cascade Tank-Village system helps efficient management of water resources flowing through a network of small to large tanks for agricultural purposes and human consumption in the dry zone
This is what most modern people lack....the yearning to create something bigger than themselves, that beneifts everyone.
Absolutely, we can be keystone species in the restoration of Earth's bio systems. Thank you to Brenda and Frank for having the vision and faith in us to bring this to reality!
@Water_Stories and thank you for sharing your knowledge to folks like them and people all over!
I live on only 2 acres but am the crest of a gradual hill. Being the tip of a very long watershed, I feel compelled to do a few small things here too.
No, it is the system that most people live in that prioritizes profits over people. Most people have lived under that system, and most believe it is the only option
@Disabled.Megatron sad but true. Maybe one day that mindset will shift.
I would disagree, I see a lot of yearning, but the limitation is MONEY, for courses, machinery.
To those that say its unfair to the farms downstream, should know that the ponds are unlined and water still leaves the system albeit slowly rather than in a gush like in the rainy season.
Awesome that you try new things and don't vilify regulators! Proof that there is negotiation. Stop hating the gov't landowners! Work with them.
this is incredible i hope the whole country does this some day soon.
You guys are doing good work. Really.
Thank you so much for your work. These people are living my dream! I want to do exactly the same thing in my homelands.
The Water Stories Core Course is a training we developed to teach others how to create these kinds of transformations on their own lands, and also to have a community of practitioners to help support each other and share experience. Good luck with your project!
You are welcome to visit anytime and learn more about this project and our farm!
well done Andrew and Zach! and well done to the client land-owners who had the vision for such an integrated socio-landscape
I love that when they hit the wall of the legal system, they chose to inform and help restructure instead of go all "DOWN WITH GUBMENT! MAH LAND MAH LAWS!".
Would have been a lot better if they did
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wow!
Another great video
Amazing, Andrew.
Thank you for your efforts.
I would love to see people who don't have land or interest in hands on operations to assist with the legal and commitment to helping change laws as needed.
Often office work and appointments with officials.
Things like changing laws to allow kinder smaller slaughter methods and local production promotion,
Applications of hydrology like this on individual or district levels,
General advocacy work for individuals and districts,
Promotion within communities to encourage ANY landowner or householders to add to the vitality of their neighbourhood with less short lawns, healthier water runoff, growth of native vegetation, etc.
There is so much on that interface that needs to be done, and often farmer tyoes don't have the time or expertise to either do it, or stategise.
Not a word acknowledging the obvious reliance upon and use of P. A . Yeomans work!
I have acknowledged PA Yeoman's a great deal throughout my content. But in this case, Zach is the protege of Sepp Holzer and I would say if we were to acknowledge anyone in this video as the dominant influence it would be Sepp.
Andrew is spot on here. I'm of course aware of PA Yeomans, but it doesn't really have any influence on my work at all. This is all Sepp's approach manifested through his legacy of his student.
Thank you again for another fantastic video
This is awesome.
What an inspiring project and a beautifully made film.
Hopefully there has now been enough flooding in the UK for these principles and techniques to be implemented far and wide.
We can say it was their idea ;-)
Inspiring stuff, Andrew Millison 💪
Im waiting for the genius part of this. This is how every water supplie system works in every part of the world.
This is fantastic. Switching from a mentality of humans do harm to the land, thus, regulate to mitigate impact, to a mindset of humans can make the environment better through good design and understanding of ecosystems, so regulations should focus on restoration and fairness, that is a game-changer. I'm definitely going to look into the permaculture design class.
Thankyou 😊
Hippies are awesome!
Love it! It is functional and looks beautiful too. But I wonder, do the cattle have access to the ponds? It could be nice for the animals but could potentially pollute the water system.
Cattle do not have access to these ponds due to the steep slope, a desire to keep the water clean, and to prevent erosion.. We provide them with well water that is available on property.
Would love a more in-depth video on the engineering of this system, it’s amazing !
Zach probably has more in depth engineering info on Water Stories, his online community.
You can find a lot of background videos and the planing behind it on @waterstories
There is tons more about this project including a 3 hour deep dive tour and full construction time lapse as part of our core course.
great work.
Amazing!
6:14-6:21 trickle down agriculture haha
I had never heard this description of irrigating from the ground up before but I really like it!
You guys are saving the world we need to put the water back into the soil or we’re all going to flood, except people on the boat lol
Swales we need to talk more about it
Been wanting to build something like this, and it's amazing to see a real case! Amazing job
Im in Trail on 6 acres on a hillside and am determined to apply swales and a pond to restore the watershed for the summer months. Inspiring and informative vid, thank you 🇺🇲
This is very much in line with Phil Morrison's permaculture design
SOOO GOOD!!!