I have been playing guitars from China, Indonesia, Mexico. It’s not the guitar it’s the musician, you get to know the instrument and put your soul in too it you can make it sound like a million dollar guitar. Chibson guitars are awesome.
It’s not the country of manufacture that bothers me, I have a few Far East guitars, myself. It’s the need to have the Gibson name on the headstock. Call it what it is, after all, you Chibson owners say you can have them spec’d anyway you want, put TedPedraza on it, I’d have Chibson on mine, anything but Gibson, because it’s anything but a Gibson.
@@BootleggerPhil and I do have one with my name lol. I had a music store owner tell me that I would never be able to afford a Gibson 59 Les Paul starting at $10.000, that was it. I was done with Gibson or any guitar that’s worth a house. Even if I had the money I still wouldn’t buy one I would buy a shit load of Chibson with Chibson on it.
@@tedpedraza8234 That’s good for you Ted. I got no problem with my little Epiphone, plus a really hated 2015 Special, neither costing that much, about as much as a tricked out Chibson infant. Both great guitars & no defrauding involved. Don’t know where you’d get a 1959 Gibson Les Paul for $10k, unless you time travel back to the 20th century, or a house for that matter… But think of how many times you could have TedPedrazza put on a Chibson if you’d of had the good sense to invest $10k into what a 1959 goes for. Personally, I’m cool with the small tally of Gibson Custom & Fender Custom Shop guitars I’ve managed to work & pay for over the years, and buy a house, raise a family, put back into an honest economy whilst working in the music industry. So I’ll chose to play those hard earned and we’ll deserved guitars, with the three additional Far East guitars I could afford back in the early days of my life, all of them with their own names on the headstock (I don’t think I’m that hot, I have to have my name on a guitar for votes or laughs). You see Ted, it’s cool to party, but if you keep it down to a night or so now & then of juice & toot, you wont be frightened off by guitars that are worth having for life, because you’ll have something left of your money & good sense. If all you can part with is a few hundred at a time; you must be Mr. Blowit…
@@BootleggerPhil I want a fake Gibson that says Gibson on it to spite Gibson because they are over priced pieces of junk. Also your name is hypocritical. A true bootlegger goes all the way. Name and all. You’re a fraud.
Bought the exact same one you got in the video amazing guitar for the money. Apart from the usual finish blemishes and a slight crack in the finish everything else was perfect frets,hardware etc all that was needed was a minor set-up and it plays great. All those haters I don't understand why they complain.
@@Ginger-krak just look up les paul take a look at a real model of a guitar on google so you know what to look for and make sure the seller has good feedback.
I have this Les Paul custom Chibson guitar too, it arrived here at my house on 08/23/2023! This is the best choice and best purchase I made! It was my dream 20 years ago! And I managed to do it!
Enjoy it man,, I got a real gibson custom, shes now 24 years old and but has mostly stayed in the case because I was always afraid of breaking the headstock etc.. Second chibber i got last week from ebay honestly plays 99% as good, needs tuners and pickups but it still sounds good and stays in tune.. ( just dont like the inconsistent turns on the tuners).. It looks tits too, burst finish i always wanted! And at $300 ill treat her like a strat :)
I got a Chibson LP custom black a little while ago. Nice paint, frets, binding, large pots, big neck. Cost $230 a really nice guitar for the money. Only minor thing crooked tuners on head stock.
Got the same model 10 years ago, ebony finger board, fret nibs and MoP headstock inlays, plays great. Gold plating is wearing thin these days though and nice wide strap as shes heavy
Chibson has gotten so good in the last couple of years that they should use their moniker Chibson on their products. I was so impressed in the professionalism of their recent builds, that I had my favourite builder, create a replica of a 2007 Les Paul Supreme. I own no less than 6 Chibsons, and all are comparable to north american guitar builders. The exceptions are the nut, and electronics, that use cheaper products. But remember the price difference from a real Gibson.
How about just letting the actual shops use their own names? That would eliminate the mystery and lead to the good makers being recognized and patronized…until some of the Chinese builders started pirating each other’s real names I guess…lol..I would actually prefer no name on the headstock at all
@petemadden8821 I'm all for it also. But for now I still won't pass up a good guitar simply because of a name. But I agree. If you got it, be proud of it.
Actually one one of my two Chibsons I swapped out the mini pots for CTS etc I ended up putting the old mini pots nack in as it had a better taper compared to the CTS that was more like a switch. I used A and B pots in all the configurations but no the cheapo minis work perfect !
The only thing that most of the manufacturers didn't understood yet is the distance from the logo to the D and G string tuner poles. There is a huge gap. If you look into the real thing, this is not the way. In fact all the 6 tuners should be at least 1cm higher.
They actually do it on purpose. So they do not meet the term "Exact" that is required to be considered a counterfeit. This is why if you really look everything is just a bit off. Taken as a whole its like 80% different. You can find one that's close in one area, but of in another's. Its not because they don't know, Its because they need to change it import them. This one is pushing farther than most, however next to a authentic Gibson the many many differences are obvious. Thanks for watching brother.
I think that they just use the same headstock model for classic and custom models, since the normal gibsons like Slash or a 60/59 etc, they have bigger headstocks with that exact proportions, but the custom has the gibson logo starting closer to the D tuner and the whole headstock is a bit smaller. These variants also are common even in the original production, I think that in 1955 the logo was completely off centered, it started lower like the customs ones but with the headstock of a classic gibson so you basically had a lot of blank space at the top.
@@k2rocksstl that problem is caused by the string coming with an angle from the nut to the tuners, they're not aligned like other headstocks such as PRS ones. Also the tuners are not staggered in height and the curve of the Gibson's headstocks is 17° if I remember correctly and it weakens not only the structure (in fact they brake quite easily on the scarf joint) but also improve tuning instability
gibson logo they slight different over those years , im not gibson guy , but i agreed the gibson logo always looks little odd , looks very hard to get right .
I got a blue burst custom for my daughters first guitar, but I was surprised by it. With some work like some fret polishing and a new nut and some plastics swap it would be hard for most Gibson fans to know the difference. The pickups aren’t great but definitely good enough. I see these as a great way to tinker into something pretty cool and not spend a lot. Now I’m looking at a black custom chibson with p90s. Because I need to put an alnico staple neck pickup into the right guitar 😊 I have every other real les paul pickup combination p90s, humbuckers, three humbuckers. But I’m not about to spend 6k on a 54 reissue black beauty!
First let me say I love your intro, Cold Gin, that band has inspired more people to pick up a guitar than any other, but that's another story. I've been wanting a Gibson Les Paul Custom in alpine white forever, at least over 30 years. But every time I get serious I walk away. I just can't justify the price, now by the time you add tax they're over 6 K! Certainly not in my budget. So I bought a Chibson LP custom in alpine white. It played great right out of the box! I liked it so much I bought another in Cherry Sunburst, and then another in black just like the one you have in this video. All three came from my home state of NJ so it arrived in one day transit time from Fedex. The fit and finish on all 3 is just fabulous! The neck relief and string height was well within specs. Yeah the pick ups and tuners are not the greatest, but for me, my stage days are over, and playing in my music room they are just fine the way they are. At high gain you get some ring from the pick ups but I'm also too close to my amp as well so that may be part of the problem. I never purchased from Ali Express but you got me thinking. I purchased all mine on ebay, so far no disappointments. But like you said, email the seller before you buy. If they don't respond before the sale then forget about any response after they got your money. These Chibsons can get addicting! I've also purchased 2 SG's and a Flying V all in Cream White. I love that color! Only one SG was unplayable out of the box. Truss rod was way too tight. In about an hour I had it set up and playing great. Anyway, I love your honest videos on these guitars and please keep them coming. I plan to watch them all. So, do I still want a Gibson Les Paul Custom in Alpine White? ABSOLUTELY!! Maybe someday. But , for now I'm happy buying all my dream Gibsons at an affordable price. Let the sickness continue....
Hey @JamminJerseyRocker I'm from Jersey as well and interested in these Chibsons. I play bass but been wanting to dabble in guitar . If you don't mind which E=bay seller did you use? Are the prices similar to AliExpress? The quick shipping and having to not possibly deal with customs sounds good.
Hey thats cool i got a chipson and the bridges most of them and harley bentons im having to move the bridges forward so you can set the intonations right. We’ve had to do two of them so far. In dealing with that with one right now. That the saddles are almost against the side of the bridge. And thats after putting a bone nut and leveling the frets. Its still to that point now.
Another score!!! I agree on the Nitro finish... I just painted my StewMac LP using Colortone nitro (I have a UA-cam short I added yesterday showing the results) and I love it. It produces a beautiful almost milky smooth clearcoat. You really scored on this one... so nice, congratulations!
Hello, just ordered the Ace Frehley blue burst from LS custom shop . Can’t wait to get my hands on it . Thank you for your videos , they are very informative and appreciated .
@@brucedickinson8993 yes, received already. Had a minor problem with high frets but otherwise in good condition . Could use better pickups but they are usable .
DUDE!! Great vid...I have recently got a chibby black "Les Paul Custom" almost identical to the one you showed here! I was blown away with it in terms of look, weight and feel!! I replaced tuners, pickups/wiring and strings....but honestly it now sounds really bad ass (and it sounded good before). Thank you for doing these videos, and I have subscribed to your channel and love your vids!!!!
@@FultonStreetBeats I love your honesty and show the good and bad!! As for pissing the guitar gods off...I say piss em all off.....ultimately if you enjoy the guitar, that is all that matters!!!
Loving this channel. I will admit I was a total Gibson/Fender snob until the prices started to get way out of control. You're showing that you can pay $250-350 for a Chibson or that excellent EVH Frankey you bought, and hot rod it to your hearts content. No more worrying about tanking the resale value because everything isn't original. Keep up the great work and I eagerly look forrward to your next video.
The only thing that worries me with these, is you don't know how the wood was stored and prepped for moisture before starting the build. I would be interested to see how well they all intonate too. They have come a long way though, I'll give em that!
I had an '86 Custom brown burst waiting for me under the Christmas tree one year when I was a teenager, it was the best guitar I ever had I believe. The music store owner said to me and my Dad before he bought it, "Why do you want a Preacher's guitar?" still remember that and laugh sometimes :) It still had the PAF stickers on the mounting rings and only had minor buckle rash. These Chibby's look cool but I'd feel like I was a bit of a traitor for buying one in a way. Great review and nice looking axe.
Man, what a beautiful guitar! I love the glossy black with golden hardware. Considering buying one, and when the pickups will shut due to use and time, i'll put some golden emg buckers on it 😁
@@FultonStreetBeats don't say to me that cause I just have the seller in fav because of you. Also I'm looking a v also. I'm avoiding Floyd rose cause if the pick ups are crap.. I can imagine the Floyd won't be better..
Fabulous,that's what I want to see, I've been wanting for one of these for a long time,maybe 6 months since I got my first chibby, and I kick myself for not getting this one first, but you know how you don't want to spend a lot,when testing the waters for the first time,I didn't expect to even get the cherry burst standard LP that I did get,but it's no where near as nice as this black beauty of yours,I'm going to check with the seller I went with the first time, see if he can get me one, heck mine was $220 so you really got a good deal on that one,can't wait to hear it,couldn't ask for a better review,just at the right time,I was really to order one anyway,now I know I want one,I'm thinking of rigging a brass nut up for under the truss rod cover, ,just fake enough to slide in the hex and stay there,use a little piece of a bolt for the brass nut to screw onto and maybe file the back of it hex shape to slide into the existing hex nut on truss,going to be fun, faking some friends out right, as always thanks for the video, nice to find like minded affectionados,of budget guitars,especially chibsons.
I followed them for a while on FB. But when I inquired about a couple of guitars, I never got a response. Then, I started to hear bad things about quality. However, I can't personally say. I am following my gut and staying away. Although I know some swear by them. They may be fantastic, but it's not for me.
I ordered 2 guitars from them. A lucille and a LP custom. I'll personally let you know how they are so you don't waste your money. I hear good things about them so we'll see!@@FultonStreetBeats
Alright man, I promised I would update. I got a Les Paul Custom - Chibson. I've had many of these in my life and they were all so-so but this one really shut me up. I can't believe how far the chinese have come.. It's kind of scary. I can completely vouch for P4M but damn its crazy good!
Any chance you can provide buyer details? I bought a Chibson off Ali and my luthier has only had to make minor changes - new humbuckers, toggle, and pick guard - 0 intonation. Am very happy with it for the price all up. Thanks for this video.
This video convinced me to try to buy one - again. The first one didn't make it through customs., and ended up getting my money back. But I did my research, and even paid for extra fast shipping - 3 weeks - as I was told that increases the chance of making it through customs. I ordered one just like you are showing in this video, but with chrome hardware. If it's as beautiful as the one you got, I will let you know.
Looks like a bunch of epiphone workers walked out. And went to the factory down the road. Most everyone i know says the last year all their chibsons are quite a bit bettèr than their 6 7 or 800 dollar epiphone's. Great guitar. Its a beauty. 😮
Did you change the pickups? I've heard some reviews saying they are complete garbage and some of them are showing up with Epiphone pickups and some other parts as well
@@FultonStreetBeats i was saving too so i can buy one for my Birthday, thank You Sir for a deep insight now i made up my mind, Godbless and more Power🙏🏼
Just subscribed your channel rock I own a couple chibsons myself I really want to build out an R9 to gig with /59 rep with CTS pots and after market bumblebee caps!! I’ve seen you on the firefly and chibson pages on Facebook keep up the awesome work just watched 2 vids!!
Hey Mike brother I love this channel thumbs up every week from me I had 2 1970s Gibson les Paul but had to sale to pay medical bills for my daughter just been very hard the last 2 years not having no guitar but I have my daughter an one day I will get me a chibson an be just as happy keep the videos coming thanks man
It's tempting to grab a entire line of replica gibsons at this level of build. Can easily swap out a few parts if and when wanted to to really dial em in. These are so not limited to wall art.
I would like to see you review a Neil Schon gold top Les Paul.I want that model and if Chinson can do it as good as this Black Beauty or the Ace Frehley model I will get one
Fulton, I was thinking buying from aliexpress . when you but a gibson copy from them , how do you know which guitars are the gibson ,chibson s. are they all the same, or do you have to look at the ones with the LP in the description. how do you know what you are getting?
Most of these come with a 14 degree angle on the headstock. I did purchase one from a seller and requested a 17 degree angle. But honestly it's hit or miss with these things.
Man, I wish there were a way to get this guitar. Back in 1981/82? My father bought a black Kent LP copy off his friend who was a studio musician, for me for xmas (I cant remember the exact year but it was before 1985. Other than the huge binding and gold plated hardware, this guitar looks almost identical to my Kent. I loved that guitar.. it meant the world to me. Sadly it was stolen from the back of a friend's pickup truck after a show one night as we were packing up. I've never been able to find another or anything close to it. 😞
How did you get it past US customs without it being impounded for the Gibson logo? That happened to a UK guitarist you tuber who sent for a couple. Border Force caught it and sent him a letter saying he had to agree to have it destroyed or they would contact Gibson and legal action may follow. Thoughts?
Wow! Great channel, man! I have a thing for Chibsons and ‘lawsuit’ LPs. I might have missed it, or maybe you didn’t/can’t say, but can I ask where you got this one?
New to the channel like the content and your reviews. I recently got a chipson les paul zakk wylde. I want to change the tail piece and stop bar. Do you have one you recommend from ali express or vendor you use to look more like a les paul set up. Any advice would be appreciated
Thank you. I usually use parts from Amazon, such as wilkinson. They make many quality parts. Especially the M series. Thanks for watching and welcome aboard 🙏
I picked up an ES-335 and 'sadly' the fit and finish is better than the Gibson's hanging at the authorized dealer. Now I have it and it actually plays well and sounds pretty good. The only downfall is that I can never sell it. If doing this again, I'll request the Gibson label to not be added. I agree with your assessment: some of these are pretty good! Note: when I had my Chibson set up the tech did an amazing job but claimed the intonation is not perfect because of the length from the nut to the bridge. I haven't noticed any issues with the intonation - it sounds perfect all the way up the neck.
I've bought a couple off Aliexpress and the only problem I ever had was on one the frets were just a hair out of place. So I never could get. A 100% correct internation.
I have heard of them coming with fret nibs but this is the first one I have seen, I can see them starting to punch the serial number on the back of the headstock instead of CNC cut serial numbers. I wouldn't mind one with a genuine Evertune fitted at manufacture, I would probably have to ship them the part though and getting a well routed and fitted one would be a coin toss. What do you think the purpose of the fake shipping number was?
Happened to me before. I think they want you to believe they shipped immidiately so they can manufacture the guitar and send it out without you canceling the order. I'm dealing with Aliexpress sellers for almost 5 years now and this has happened multiple times to me. It also happened once, when I already bought the guitar but was still in talks with the seller how I wanted it costumized.
Don't know much about Chibsons, but I've read a few places that if you get one with nibs on the frets, you have a good one. It's a lot more work to build the guitar like that, so it's likely more work went into the build and you have a higher quality instrument. Who knows?
Do you ever sell your guitars? This one in particular? I want to order one but dont have enough info on how to achieve getting all the apointments on the guitar without recieving a pile of crap.
@@FultonStreetBeats I have a 335 chibson and it gets way more play time due to it staying in tune more, also a set of Seymour Duncan antiquities combined with that center blocked hollow body sound. I just found a custom chibson for my son the other day in blue and I have to say I'm very jealous and want my own. I did some years ago score a 96' custom all decked out from creamtone parts but I gotta say I hated how it dealt in my hand so I sold it off.
There's a lot of snobbery over Chinese products and premium branding,When I had a Guitar shop in the UK I sold brands like AXL and Johnson(Same company).Also they made guitar bodies that were shipped to the US for final assembly.True some of the hardware was questionable but you get what you pay for.some even had Seymour duncan pickups! the all played exceptionally well.
I've also got a Chinese motorbike,made in 2002 a clone of a Honda, had it for three years and it's been totally reliable,the finish is about as good as my 1963 Triumph speed twin.Not Guitar related except through Rock& Roll.
I’m still kinda on the fence about using the Gibson logo. But instead of dropping several thousand on a authentic anything only to find out you don’t like it, maybe buy one of these. I did that with the Acoustasonic clone by IYV just to see if I liked it. Turns out I did and picked up a Fender Acoustasonic mim used at a good price. I might try one of these in the near future but doubt I’d buy a Gibson LP just because of the insane price. I did play my friend black beauty, but wasn’t overly impressed to save up and buy one, but to drop $300 on a good clone, yeah I could see that.
I got one last month (WILL COME UP ON MY CHANNEL LATER) with the same markings on the pickguard. It's a tiger maple top in a dark honey color. The fret ends are enclosed in the binding like that one. My first like that. Made it tricky, as it still needed frets leveled. Pups were ok, but I had planned to mod it before it arrived. 5 weeks. Took it 2 weeks to get out of China, which is what I normally see. That's a beauty. I avoid black as best I can cuz of the finger and arm marks. Constant battle to keep clean like black cars.
I love your chibson videos they are analyzed in depth! Just because i saw that golden one with broken neck how beautiful it was made i want to buy one. Can you tell me what store did you use to buy this black chibson? I have made an order to some store and they withdraw all items from the store now im in refund process lol.
Hi Fulton Street. Great review! Can you tell us the thickness of the neck? Is it a slimmer 60’s or a bit chunkier late 50’s? Possibly put a caliper on it? Many thanks. This is the one that I want! Regards
I am blown away by these chibsons! I've spent so many days looking for a somewhat reliable online store based on reviews and youtube videos and I feel like I'm making no progress at all. Can you please share the store link? I wanna get a silverburst. Cheers
I have been playing guitars from China, Indonesia, Mexico. It’s not the guitar it’s the musician, you get to know the instrument and put your soul in too it you can make it sound like a million dollar guitar. Chibson guitars are awesome.
They can be...
It’s not the country of manufacture that bothers me, I have a few Far East guitars, myself. It’s the need to have the Gibson name on the headstock. Call it what it is, after all, you Chibson owners say you can have them spec’d anyway you want, put TedPedraza on it, I’d have Chibson on mine, anything but Gibson, because it’s anything but a Gibson.
@@BootleggerPhil and I do have one with my name lol. I had a music store owner tell me that I would never be able to afford a Gibson 59 Les Paul starting at $10.000, that was it. I was done with Gibson or any guitar that’s worth a house. Even if I had the money I still wouldn’t buy one I would buy a shit load of Chibson with Chibson on it.
@@tedpedraza8234 That’s good for you Ted. I got no problem with my little Epiphone, plus a really hated 2015 Special, neither costing that much, about as much as a tricked out Chibson infant. Both great guitars & no defrauding involved. Don’t know where you’d get a 1959 Gibson Les Paul for $10k, unless you time travel back to the 20th century, or a house for that matter… But think of how many times you could have TedPedrazza put on a Chibson if you’d of had the good sense to invest $10k into what a 1959 goes for. Personally, I’m cool with the small tally of Gibson Custom & Fender Custom Shop guitars I’ve managed to work & pay for over the years, and buy a house, raise a family, put back into an honest economy whilst working in the music industry. So I’ll chose to play those hard earned and we’ll deserved guitars, with the three additional Far East guitars I could afford back in the early days of my life, all of them with their own names on the headstock (I don’t think I’m that hot, I have to have my name on a guitar for votes or laughs). You see Ted, it’s cool to party, but if you keep it down to a night or so now & then of juice & toot, you wont be frightened off by guitars that are worth having for life, because you’ll have something left of your money & good sense. If all you can part with is a few hundred at a time; you must be Mr. Blowit…
@@BootleggerPhil I want a fake Gibson that says Gibson on it to spite Gibson because they are over priced pieces of junk. Also your name is hypocritical. A true bootlegger goes all the way. Name and all. You’re a fraud.
Bought the exact same one you got in the video amazing guitar for the money. Apart from the usual finish blemishes and a slight crack in the finish everything else was perfect frets,hardware etc all that was needed was a minor set-up and it plays great. All those haters I don't understand why they complain.
where or what seller did you buy your chibson from. Thanks
@todski9992 I bought mine from Ali express but you need to do the research mine looks close to the real deal.
What is it called on aliexpress
@@Ginger-krak just look up les paul take a look at a real model of a guitar on google so you know what to look for and make sure the seller has good feedback.
Hey bro who’s the seller or can you send a link
Wow, finally some good news😄🙏
I just bought one. I am looking forward to receiving it!
Update: Mine arrived today via FedEx. Unfortunately, I will need to return it due to CRACKED neck below the headstock. SUCK!!!!!
@@islandfocus2 Damn that sucks did you get your money back ok?
I have this Les Paul custom Chibson guitar too, it arrived here at my house on 08/23/2023! This is the best choice and best purchase I made! It was my dream 20 years ago! And I managed to do it!
Which is the seller you got?
ask same, which seller you buy from please?
@@neliojunior4357
You dreamed of owning a Chinese copy ?
Enjoy it man,, I got a real gibson custom, shes now 24 years old and but has mostly stayed in the case because I was always afraid of breaking the headstock etc.. Second chibber i got last week from ebay honestly plays 99% as good, needs tuners and pickups but it still sounds good and stays in tune.. ( just dont like the inconsistent turns on the tuners).. It looks tits too, burst finish i always wanted! And at $300 ill treat her like a strat :)
I got a Chibson LP custom black a little while ago. Nice paint, frets, binding, large pots, big neck. Cost $230 a really nice guitar for the money. Only minor thing crooked tuners on head stock.
Got the same model 10 years ago, ebony finger board, fret nibs and MoP headstock inlays, plays great. Gold plating is wearing thin these days though and nice wide strap as shes heavy
Chibson has gotten so good in the last couple of years that they should use their moniker Chibson on their products. I was so impressed in the professionalism of their recent builds, that I had my favourite builder, create a replica of a 2007 Les Paul Supreme. I own no less than 6 Chibsons, and all are comparable to north american guitar builders. The exceptions are the nut, and electronics, that use cheaper products. But remember the price difference from a real Gibson.
I agree
ive been saying this for so long! I want a chibson logo!
How about just letting the actual shops use their own names? That would eliminate the mystery and lead to the good makers being recognized and patronized…until some of the Chinese builders started pirating each other’s real names I guess…lol..I would actually prefer no name on the headstock at all
@petemadden8821 I'm all for it also. But for now I still won't pass up a good guitar simply because of a name. But I agree. If you got it, be proud of it.
Wow!!! You have created a great channel Bravo!
I just today Ordered a LP Blond Beauty .. ALL Blond Fret Board also... Looking Forward to comparing it to my other LP... !
Actually one one of my two Chibsons I swapped out the mini pots for CTS etc I ended up putting the old mini pots nack in as it had a better taper compared to the CTS that was more like a switch. I used A and B pots in all the configurations but no the cheapo minis work perfect !
I leave one side together to hinge the box and it comes out very clean
Great content! Live the way you go through these! Keep'em going!
The only thing that most of the manufacturers didn't understood yet is the distance from the logo to the D and G string tuner poles. There is a huge gap. If you look into the real thing, this is not the way. In fact all the 6 tuners should be at least 1cm higher.
They actually do it on purpose. So they do not meet the term "Exact" that is required to be considered a counterfeit. This is why if you really look everything is just a bit off. Taken as a whole its like 80% different. You can find one that's close in one area, but of in another's. Its not because they don't know, Its because they need to change it import them. This one is pushing farther than most, however next to a authentic Gibson the many many differences are obvious. Thanks for watching brother.
I think that they just use the same headstock model for classic and custom models, since the normal gibsons like Slash or a 60/59 etc, they have bigger headstocks with that exact proportions, but the custom has the gibson logo starting closer to the D tuner and the whole headstock is a bit smaller. These variants also are common even in the original production, I think that in 1955 the logo was completely off centered, it started lower like the customs ones but with the headstock of a classic gibson so you basically had a lot of blank space at the top.
@@k2rocksstl that problem is caused by the string coming with an angle from the nut to the tuners, they're not aligned like other headstocks such as PRS ones.
Also the tuners are not staggered in height and the curve of the Gibson's headstocks is 17° if I remember correctly and it weakens not only the structure (in fact they brake quite easily on the scarf joint) but also improve tuning instability
gibson logo they slight different over those years , im not gibson guy , but i agreed the gibson logo always looks little odd , looks very hard to get right .
I got a blue burst custom for my daughters first guitar, but I was surprised by it. With some work like some fret polishing and a new nut and some plastics swap it would be hard for most Gibson fans to know the difference. The pickups aren’t great but definitely good enough. I see these as a great way to tinker into something pretty cool and not spend a lot. Now I’m looking at a black custom chibson with p90s. Because I need to put an alnico staple neck pickup into the right guitar 😊 I have every other real les paul pickup combination p90s, humbuckers, three humbuckers. But I’m not about to spend 6k on a 54 reissue black beauty!
man ive ben lusting after a 54 custom reissue for a long time. and if i ever have the cash on hand im going for it!
Love your videos bro! Thanks for all you do!
I appreciate that! Thank you!
Got a chibson les Paul 3 pickup guitar after some bridge adjustments it plays fine I like it.
First let me say I love your intro, Cold Gin, that band has inspired more people to pick up a guitar than any other, but that's another story. I've been wanting a Gibson Les Paul Custom in alpine white forever, at least over 30 years. But every time I get serious I walk away. I just can't justify the price, now by the time you add tax they're over 6 K! Certainly not in my budget. So I bought a Chibson LP custom in alpine white. It played great right out of the box! I liked it so much I bought another in Cherry Sunburst, and then another in black just like the one you have in this video. All three came from my home state of NJ so it arrived in one day transit time from Fedex. The fit and finish on all 3 is just fabulous! The neck relief and string height was well within specs. Yeah the pick ups and tuners are not the greatest, but for me, my stage days are over, and playing in my music room they are just fine the way they are. At high gain you get some ring from the pick ups but I'm also too close to my amp as well so that may be part of the problem. I never purchased from Ali Express but you got me thinking. I purchased all mine on ebay, so far no disappointments. But like you said, email the seller before you buy. If they don't respond before the sale then forget about any response after they got your money. These Chibsons can get addicting! I've also purchased 2 SG's and a Flying V all in Cream White. I love that color! Only one SG was unplayable out of the box. Truss rod was way too tight. In about an hour I had it set up and playing great.
Anyway, I love your honest videos on these guitars and please keep them coming. I plan to watch them all.
So, do I still want a Gibson Les Paul Custom in Alpine White? ABSOLUTELY!! Maybe someday. But , for now I'm happy buying all my dream Gibsons at an affordable price. Let the sickness continue....
I love this comment. Thanks brother 🙏
Hey @JamminJerseyRocker I'm from Jersey as well and interested in these Chibsons. I play bass but been wanting to dabble in guitar . If you don't mind which E=bay seller did you use? Are the prices similar to AliExpress? The quick shipping and having to not possibly deal with customs sounds good.
Yeah but they’re’not’ Gibsons.
Very nice ! Your right the quality has gone up !
Loving this series of videos, thanks man 🙏🏻
Glad you like them!
Hey thats cool i got a chipson and the bridges most of them and harley bentons im having to move the bridges forward so you can set the intonations right. We’ve had to do two of them so far. In dealing with that with one right now. That the saddles are almost against the side of the bridge. And thats after putting a bone nut and leveling the frets. Its still to that point now.
Luckily, I've had no intonation issues with any of the newer ones.
Another score!!! I agree on the Nitro finish... I just painted my StewMac LP using Colortone nitro (I have a UA-cam short I added yesterday showing the results) and I love it. It produces a beautiful almost milky smooth clearcoat. You really scored on this one... so nice, congratulations!
Thanks brother. It has the right vibe for sure. Feel free to through your link to your short right here.
@@FultonStreetBeats thank you brotherman! ua-cam.com/users/shortsOoLMbzZrpH4
@@FultonStreetBeats any chance you can supply the link to this particular guitar, been chasing a decent chibson custom
Hello, just ordered the Ace Frehley blue burst from LS custom shop . Can’t wait to get my hands on it . Thank you for your videos , they are very informative and appreciated .
Thanks for your support brother!
So, it arrived? It's Good?
@@brucedickinson8993 yes, received already. Had a minor problem with high frets but otherwise in good condition . Could use better pickups but they are usable .
Great guitar!!... Thanks for jumping through so many hoops to show us the true potential these guitars can have!🤟🎸🍻🇨🇦
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
@@FultonStreetBeats you got me for life!💯🤟🎸
@@THESESSIONROOM
DUDE!! Great vid...I have recently got a chibby black "Les Paul Custom" almost identical to the one you showed here! I was blown away with it in terms of look, weight and feel!! I replaced tuners, pickups/wiring and strings....but honestly it now sounds really bad ass (and it sounded good before). Thank you for doing these videos, and I have subscribed to your channel and love your vids!!!!
Thanks my brother. I manage to piss of the guitar gods. But we always show it the way it is. The good and the bad.
@@FultonStreetBeats I love your honesty and show the good and bad!! As for pissing the guitar gods off...I say piss em all off.....ultimately if you enjoy the guitar, that is all that matters!!!
Thanks. Could you send a link?
Loving this channel. I will admit I was a total Gibson/Fender snob until the prices started to get way out of control. You're showing that you can pay $250-350 for a Chibson or that excellent EVH Frankey you bought, and hot rod it to your hearts content. No more worrying about tanking the resale value because everything isn't original. Keep up the great work and I eagerly look forrward to your next video.
Thank you so much!
Where are you buying exactly I want to purchase
The only thing that worries me with these, is you don't know how the wood was stored and prepped for moisture before starting the build. I would be interested to see how well they all intonate too. They have come a long way though, I'll give em that!
I want a Greeny Chibson, but I kee seeing mixed reviews because different manufacturers. Till then, I'm happy w my Firefly's and IYV's.
Do you have the link to the seller or for this guitar?
I had an '86 Custom brown burst waiting for me under the Christmas tree one year when I was a teenager, it was the best guitar I ever had I believe. The music store owner said to me and my Dad before he bought it, "Why do you want a Preacher's guitar?" still remember that and laugh sometimes :) It still had the PAF stickers on the mounting rings and only had minor buckle rash. These Chibby's look cool but I'd feel like I was a bit of a traitor for buying one in a way. Great review and nice looking axe.
Man, what a beautiful guitar! I love the glossy black with golden hardware. Considering buying one, and when the pickups will shut due to use and time, i'll put some golden emg buckers on it 😁
Test the finish by putting it next to your open fridge for 10 minutes
Maybe in the freezer. LOL. Thanks for watching brother.
your videos have encouraged me to get a ESP eclipse. I hope goes so well as yours. im thinking in get the blue ACE frehely like your too!
Been playing mine all day. 🙂
@@FultonStreetBeats don't say to me that cause I just have the seller in fav because of you. Also I'm looking a v also. I'm avoiding Floyd rose cause if the pick ups are crap.. I can imagine the Floyd won't be better..
Fabulous,that's what I want to see, I've been wanting for one of these for a long time,maybe 6 months since I got my first chibby, and I kick myself for not getting this one first, but you know how you don't want to spend a lot,when testing the waters for the first time,I didn't expect to even get the cherry burst standard LP that I did get,but it's no where near as nice as this black beauty of yours,I'm going to check with the seller I went with the first time, see if he can get me one, heck mine was $220 so you really got a good deal on that one,can't wait to hear it,couldn't ask for a better review,just at the right time,I was really to order one anyway,now I know I want one,I'm thinking of rigging a brass nut up for under the truss rod cover, ,just fake enough to slide in the hex and stay there,use a little piece of a bolt for the brass nut to screw onto and maybe file the back of it hex shape to slide into the existing hex nut on truss,going to be fun, faking some friends out right, as always thanks for the video, nice to find like minded affectionados,of budget guitars,especially chibsons.
Have you heard of P4M (Jason) Bad Cat Instruments? If you have did you ever buy a guitar there and was it good?
I followed them for a while on FB. But when I inquired about a couple of guitars, I never got a response. Then, I started to hear bad things about quality. However, I can't personally say. I am following my gut and staying away. Although I know some swear by them. They may be fantastic, but it's not for me.
I ordered 2 guitars from them. A lucille and a LP custom. I'll personally let you know how they are so you don't waste your money. I hear good things about them so we'll see!@@FultonStreetBeats
Alright man, I promised I would update. I got a Les Paul Custom - Chibson. I've had many of these in my life and they were all so-so but this one really shut me up. I can't believe how far the chinese have come.. It's kind of scary. I can completely vouch for P4M but damn its crazy good!
How do we find this model if we want one?
You have to search Aliexpress. The seller I got it from is gone, unfortunately.
Any chance you can provide buyer details? I bought a Chibson off Ali and my luthier has only had to make minor changes - new humbuckers, toggle, and pick guard - 0 intonation. Am very happy with it for the price all up. Thanks for this video.
Is unfortunately that seller is no longer available
Is the body wood mahogany?
That's what they say. Feels like Mahogany weight.
Please include a link to where you bought it !
They are no longer there. Hear today and gone tomorrow situation. Plus, I got a bogus tracking number. Very odd indeed.
This video convinced me to try to buy one - again. The first one didn't make it through customs., and ended up getting my money back. But I did my research, and even paid for extra fast shipping - 3 weeks - as I was told that increases the chance of making it through customs. I ordered one just like you are showing in this video, but with chrome hardware. If it's as beautiful as the one you got, I will let you know.
Looks like a bunch of epiphone workers walked out. And went to the factory down the road. Most everyone i know says the last year all their chibsons are quite a bit bettèr than their 6 7 or 800 dollar epiphone's. Great guitar. Its a beauty. 😮
Thank you. And thanks for your support 🙏
They even gave it a more authentic-looking truss rod cover. Nice!
Wow that is impressive. And for $250 is absolutely amazing 👍
I really like the looks of this one ! The black rocks !!
Thanks Timmy. Black is beautiful for sure!
Wich name seller is it please?
Sorry. Unfortunately, the seller disappeared before the guitar even arrived.
Did you change the pickups? I've heard some reviews saying they are complete garbage and some of them are showing up with Epiphone pickups and some other parts as well
I actually have kept them stock. One of the few guitars that I have kept stock pups in. They sound great.
nice intro, and nice review👑
Thanks brother 🙏
@@FultonStreetBeats i was saving too so i can buy one for my Birthday, thank You Sir for a deep insight now i made up my mind, Godbless and more Power🙏🏼
Another great video 🎸..Do they have bass guitars as well ? With a nitro finish , possibly reliced ? Where to find those ? Thx from Germany 🇩🇪
I haven't had one of the bass guitars yet. That's a good question 🤔
Just subscribed your channel rock I own a couple chibsons myself I really want to build out an R9 to gig with /59 rep with CTS pots and after market bumblebee caps!! I’ve seen you on the firefly and chibson pages on Facebook keep up the awesome work just watched 2 vids!!
@@TyRoxYaMan thanks brother. I'm working on making it better every day
Mike, I don’t know how you do it, finding these killer Chibson guitars that are literally blowing away some Gibsons that you’ve come across!
Its just how it is so far this year. They have really upped the game. Im sure a bad one will come any day now. lol Thanks for watching Nick!
Hey Mike brother I love this channel thumbs up every week from me I had 2 1970s Gibson les Paul but had to sale to pay medical bills for my daughter just been very hard the last 2 years not having no guitar but I have my daughter an one day I will get me a chibson an be just as happy keep the videos coming thanks man
Thanks brother! Hang in there man.
So do you think 400$ is a good price with a hard shell case
I paid $358.00 for a custom-built (to my specs) for Randy Rhoads LP with a hardshell case. So it's a bit high. But not horrible if you get a good one.
Hello Can you tell me the name of the seller?? Boe
The seller is no longer up unfortunately.
Awesome my man Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That Ace Frahley guitar just seems like Chibson meets or exceeds Gibson some times.
It's tempting to grab a entire line of replica gibsons at this level of build. Can easily swap out a few parts if and when wanted to to really dial em in. These are so not limited to wall art.
I would like to see you review a Neil Schon gold top Les Paul.I want that model and if Chinson can do it as good as this Black Beauty or the Ace Frehley model I will get one
I actually saw one the other day on Aliexpress.
Fulton, I was thinking buying from aliexpress . when you but a gibson copy from them , how do you know which guitars are the gibson ,chibson s. are they all the same, or do you have to look at the ones with the LP in the description. how do you know what you are getting?
The best way is to just ask them about the logo. Always communicate before purchasing.
Most of these come with a 14 degree angle on the headstock. I did purchase one from a seller and requested a 17 degree angle. But honestly it's hit or miss with these things.
Man, I wish there were a way to get this guitar.
Back in 1981/82? My father bought a black Kent LP copy off his friend who was a studio musician, for me for xmas (I cant remember the exact year but it was before 1985.
Other than the huge binding and gold plated hardware, this guitar looks almost identical to my Kent.
I loved that guitar.. it meant the world to me.
Sadly it was stolen from the back of a friend's pickup truck after a show one night as we were packing up.
I've never been able to find another or anything close to it. 😞
Earned a like and a new subscriber from this
Thanks Brother!
You are on a roll the chibson and King
Lol. I find the 5% hate them 60% love them, 30% are Chibson curious. And the last 5% are closet chibson lovers. 😆
Could you share the sellers link with us? Thanks for the video!
Sorry the seller is gone. They popped up, and popped out just as fast.
Where do you order them from?
How did you get it past US customs without it being impounded for the Gibson logo? That happened to a UK guitarist you tuber who sent for a couple. Border Force caught it and sent him a letter saying he had to agree to have it destroyed or they would contact Gibson and legal action may follow. Thoughts?
Here's some information on how any why they can come through most of the time. ua-cam.com/video/M8tGCHJLCQM/v-deo.htmlsi=_IQj9P1Te7OGugiD
Wow! Great channel, man! I have a thing for Chibsons and ‘lawsuit’ LPs. I might have missed it, or maybe you didn’t/can’t say, but can I ask where you got this one?
If I remember correctly AliExpress. But the seller disappeared
New to the channel like the content and your reviews. I recently got a chipson les paul zakk wylde. I want to change the tail piece and stop bar. Do you have one you recommend from ali express or vendor you use to look more like a les paul set up. Any advice would be appreciated
Thank you. I usually use parts from Amazon, such as wilkinson. They make many quality parts. Especially the M series. Thanks for watching and welcome aboard 🙏
Why do they almost always get the cutaway wrong...?
I picked up an ES-335 and 'sadly' the fit and finish is better than the Gibson's hanging at the authorized dealer. Now I have it and it actually plays well and sounds pretty good. The only downfall is that I can never sell it. If doing this again, I'll request the Gibson label to not be added. I agree with your assessment: some of these are pretty good! Note: when I had my Chibson set up the tech did an amazing job but claimed the intonation is not perfect because of the length from the nut to the bridge. I haven't noticed any issues with the intonation - it sounds perfect all the way up the neck.
New Sub.... great video...great guitar.
Do you use the same seller? I've bought a couple of Chibsons...well three. They never got the horn cutout right. That one looks great
No this seller is gone now. Popped up, then disappeared just as fast.
Holy crap that is gorgeous
I've bought a couple off Aliexpress and the only problem I ever had was on one the frets were just a hair out of place. So I never could get. A 100% correct internation.
The link, please.
Can you do a Les Paul sg with the vibrola
As a matter of fact, I have been looking for the right one . Thanks for watching 🙂
it has fret nibs? wow!
I have heard of them coming with fret nibs but this is the first one I have seen, I can see them starting to punch the serial number on the back of the headstock instead of CNC cut serial numbers.
I wouldn't mind one with a genuine Evertune fitted at manufacture, I would probably have to ship them the part though and getting a well routed and fitted one would be a coin toss.
What do you think the purpose of the fake shipping number was?
I have no clue. But with them disappearing from AliExpress and giving me a fake tracking number. It was a bit scary. lol
Happened to me before. I think they want you to believe they shipped immidiately so they can manufacture the guitar and send it out without you canceling the order.
I'm dealing with Aliexpress sellers for almost 5 years now and this has happened multiple times to me. It also happened once, when I already bought the guitar but was still in talks with the seller how I wanted it costumized.
Don't know much about Chibsons, but I've read a few places that if you get one with nibs on the frets, you have a good one. It's a lot more work to build the guitar like that, so it's likely more work went into the build and you have a higher quality instrument. Who knows?
Do you ever sell your guitars? This one in particular? I want to order one but dont have enough info on how to achieve getting all the apointments on the guitar without recieving a pile of crap.
Sorry. I keep all of my Chibbys.
@@FultonStreetBeats I have a 335 chibson and it gets way more play time due to it staying in tune more, also a set of Seymour Duncan antiquities combined with that center blocked hollow body sound. I just found a custom chibson for my son the other day in blue and I have to say I'm very jealous and want my own. I did some years ago score a 96' custom all decked out from creamtone parts but I gotta say I hated how it dealt in my hand so I sold it off.
There's a lot of snobbery over Chinese products and premium branding,When I had a Guitar shop in the UK I sold brands like AXL and Johnson(Same company).Also they made guitar bodies that were shipped to the US for final assembly.True some of the hardware was questionable but you get what you pay for.some even had Seymour duncan pickups! the all played exceptionally well.
I've also got a Chinese motorbike,made in 2002 a clone of a Honda, had it for three years and it's been totally reliable,the finish is about as good as my 1963 Triumph speed twin.Not Guitar related except through Rock& Roll.
@ashleychurnside2245 That's awesome. My other channel that I just started is a motorcycle channel. REVVED UP WITH MIKE.
I’m still kinda on the fence about using the Gibson logo. But instead of dropping several thousand on a authentic anything only to find out you don’t like it, maybe buy one of these.
I did that with the Acoustasonic clone by IYV just to see if I liked it. Turns out I did and picked up a Fender Acoustasonic mim used at a good price.
I might try one of these in the near future but doubt I’d buy a Gibson LP just because of the insane price. I did play my friend black beauty, but wasn’t overly impressed to save up and buy one, but to drop $300 on a good clone, yeah I could see that.
Great Guitar! Can you pass the link where I can buy it? Greetings from Spain🎸🎸
Awesome video do you have a link i want to buy one rock on
I would like the name of the seller please.
Could you share a link on a seller?
Which shop did you buy from?
I got one last month (WILL COME UP ON MY CHANNEL LATER) with the same markings on the pickguard. It's a tiger maple top in a dark honey color. The fret ends are enclosed in the binding like that one. My first like that. Made it tricky, as it still needed frets leveled. Pups were ok, but I had planned to mod it before it arrived. 5 weeks. Took it 2 weeks to get out of China, which is what I normally see. That's a beauty. I avoid black as best I can cuz of the finger and arm marks. Constant battle to keep clean like black cars.
LoL.. I hear ya Mike... Black is beautiful but what a pain. Pretty to look at when clean. But then its a nightmare.
I wish there was a way to show y'all my favorite Chibsons. I love my Chibsons just as much, if not more than my actual Gibsons!!!
22:34 The lettering is too high above the tuners
do you know what builder/factory this one came from?
That looks great!
Where do you find Chibsons for sale??
I love your chibson videos they are analyzed in depth! Just because i saw that golden one with broken neck how beautiful it was made i want to buy one. Can you tell me what store did you use to buy this black chibson? I have made an order to some store and they withdraw all items from the store now im in refund process lol.
It was a new AliExpress seller thats now gone. That fast. That's the problems sometimes.
Hi Fulton Street. Great review! Can you tell us the thickness of the neck?
Is it a slimmer 60’s or a bit chunkier late 50’s?
Possibly put a caliper on it?
Many thanks.
This is the one that I want!
Regards
I am blown away by these chibsons! I've spent so many days looking for a somewhat reliable online store based on reviews and youtube videos and I feel like I'm making no progress at all. Can you please share the store link? I wanna get a silverburst. Cheers
Do you recall which vendor you got this one from or which vendor(s) would recommend?
Awesome channel for people who need an honest reality check ✔️ ✅️. Thank you!
Do you have link for those?
Is the tilt of the paddle like that gibson or epiphone?