It's called "bear country" Not "bear and some gun totin' goof" country If you hunt, Fine. Shoot the critter, skin it, butcher it, Cook it up with some yummy Freedom Fries and a nice Chianti. Show us the leftovers. Don't bother stuffing its head an hanging it on the wall at the Elk's Hall-"Benevolent and Protective" my ass!
As a veteran, let me just say that there are many fellow veterans who shouldn't be anywhere near a school room with a gun. There's a reason that active duty soldiers have to store their personal weapons in the armory, and when they want to use them they have to check them out and return them when they've served whatever purpose they've checked them out for. Even during live deployments, there were arduous regulations surrounding weapon use. As a former member of a light infantry unit, I distinctly remember manning a guard post in the middle east under the following conditions: 1. My rifle had an empty magazine. 2. All the ammunition was kept in a sealed box whose seal was only to be broken if a threat refused to heed verbal warnings. 3. Once I broke the seal on the box and loaded my rifle I had to once again verbally confront the threat to give them another chance to back away. 4. I was finally allowed to fire a warning shot, and I'd better have a good reason for doing so because the platoon leaders were obligated to count all the ammunition in the box after every guard shift to verify that every single bullet was still there, and their chain of command was going to come down on them like a ton of bricks if they couldn't account for any discrepancies. 5. If the threat is still present after all that, then we're finally allowed to fire at will. Was I upset about all that? Not really, because while only a small portion of the people I served with were absolutely nuts, it just takes one guy with an assault rifle to bring hell down on the rest of us. After our deployment was extended for several months due to the escalation of conflicts in the region, I spoke to several soldiers who flat out said that it's a good thing the ammunition was locked up because they would have gone on a murder spree otherwise. When I laughed and said, "Yeah, good one," they replied that they were being absolutely serious. I wish I was lying. People have this impression that training someone in the use of weapons somehow makes them safer weapon users. While the military teaches rudimentary gun safety (about five minutes worth of explanations on how you should double check that your weapon isn't loaded when you're cleaning it, how you should keep the safety on at all times when not firing it, and how you should remove your clip and attempt to fire your weapon into a barrel of sand when coming off the firing range just to be sure the chamber is empty), weapon training does nothing whatsoever to address mental health issues. A crazy dude with training is more dangerous than an untrained crazy dude. It's ironic that these trained soldiers who are perceived to be more qualified to bear arms are subject to far more regulation and restriction regarding weapons use than any civlian would ever be. We need to think about why that is. Also, most of the "homeless veterans" you see on the streets aren't actual veterans. The few who are tend to be the guys with PTSD who shouldn't be anywhere near a school. Either that, or they're physically disabled in a manner that makes them unqualified to serve as guards. Veterans actually get decent benefits upon exiting the service, including tuition assistance and job counseling. Veterans who are sound in mind and body don't wind up homeless. I'm not saying that we shouldn't help them out, but I am saying that assigning them to guard school rooms isn't doing anyone any favors. Finally, while the idea of upping the pay for security guards sounds great, I guarantee there's going to be a huge outcry whenever we try to raise taxes to pay for those wage increases.
You do realise that you don't have to raise taxes to pay a proper wage and the notion of austerity is completely fictitious to keep the mega-rich in a position to tell those they exploit that ultimately there won't ever be any kind of pay equity? Because, although multi-billionaires don't pay tax, have vast profit margins, use of-shore accounts and tax havens for their own money, they have convinced the lowest earners that there just isn't any money anywhere and every time it looks like you receive a bonus of some kind, someone else in the system automatically takes it back from you in some form. All to keep people in their place and saying things like "the pay rises will have to be met with higher taxes for everyone else!"
Thanks a lot. Your descriptions does a lot of sense to me and shed light on my former experiences and observations securing an US army base in Germany as a german trained soldier. I was kind of puzzled to see the barrels of sand with a small opening to point the rifle in to unload it. We never had that anywhere, but it makes a lot of sense to me. The differences in gun training and gun handling are too many to tell ´em all here. I had to train for weeks handling/disassembling/assembling my assault rifle, before I got to shoot my first shot with it. When we changed the model, same thing again. In contrast to the US, German soldiers on watch anywhere (also in Germany) have fully loaded assault rifles and pistols on them. But they are well trained and follow strict procedures, so no worry.
"We got bears, we got wolves..." In the middle of e.g New York? That's a bollocks excuse and you all know it. Jeffries' "Fuck you I like guns!" comment is 100% accurate.
i know right? this fat virgin nerd thinks we are all dumb and he is the only intelligent person in the world. there are wild animals only in his country? like roaming around outside his house?
It's blatantly obvious that if schools need armed security, then something has gone seriously wrong. No other developed nation even needs to consider such an extreme measure and it is an extreme measure. The fact that there are more mass shootings, in the US, than there are days in a year and that the US has more gun deaths each year than the whole of Europe, by quite some margin, are also little clues that something is seriously wrong. This needs a more comprehensive answer than extra mental health checks...
Batalan Mass Shooting, Madrid Bombing, the Nice Truck Massacre... security and protection of State? All your arguments rely on others with guns to provide for your own safety. Europe and Commonwealth Countries introduced Firearm laws in the 20's not to prevent crime to address fears of Communist revolutionaries. All you're doing is handing the responsibility of your safety to others. What do police carry? Guns. Why? Because laws only work with the ability to impose them, via force, real or implied. Do laws protect you? Nope... they simply provide consequences for those who break them and authorises violence in their enforcement. You simply pay others to keep you morals and hands clean.. otherwise why have armed police.
@@LittleVboh just look at mass killings... you confuse intent with methods and worst still believe that police will respond and protect you? All these mass killings show is that relying on the State to protect you is delusional... if laws work how'd they happen? Ban guns... like drugs... prohibition? Still...guess you can record tragedy then pontificate over the bodies of the dead? No help... just a bystander... great ethics...
@@jessmarks2214 Jess Marks I understand how this is upsetting because the thought of a nation without firearms may seem surreal for the US. I get it. I would urge you to - at least - look at this situation from an economical viewpoint. Firearms are affordable, because they are legal. Legality of firearms enables for mass production, distribution and maintenance of firearms for the public in general. The black market with unregistered firearms will always exist. It is now a matter of reducing the possibility to get a gun. Unregistered firearms are not that expensive and legally firearms aren't that unavailable as well. If you ban firearms in the US, I mean make them illegal (not gun laws), the production, distribution and so on would decline abruptly and you would see a spike in prices. The possibility to get a gun would get lower and lower with time. That would mean a decline in mass shootings and violence with firearms. Our police is always on edge, because the possibility of random people in the street, suspicious people or whatever owning a gun is very high. I believe in the US government and that we can change the nation to a place where you can walk outside and live inside without the risk of getting shot. This has been tested in Australia, Europe, China and Japan. We will always have criminals in the world, but when you enable them an easy way to achieve dangerous weapons that were meant to protect, then you have to give up a dangerous form of weapon and leave that to the executive part of our government. It is by the people for the people after all. We don't live in a dictatorship, otherwise the government would have banned weapons for the public a long time ago and you couldn't express any opinion publicly.
@@LittleVboh actually you dont get it... Gun control is the tool of the Tyrant.. Joseph Stalin "we don't allow people ideas, why would we allow guns"... The greatest crimes against humanity have been perpetrated by governments against their own citizens... Europe and Commonwealth countries are servile
@@jessmarks2214 we don't live in 16th/17th century anymore. Europeans grew up by trusting their democracy and their government after WW2. Why can't the USA grow up? The USA is considered a 3rd world place to live. There is always fear of gun violence.
Here in Australia we have gun control. My kids never had to learn how to avoid getting shot, I never had to worry about my kids getting shot. I have never been afraid of getting shot. And we have mental health issues here. I sometimes leave my backdoor open when it's hot at night. That's freedom.
The problem is that if the US introduced Australia/UK gun control there would be massive outrage about US "rights". The vast percentage of people that own wouldn't. There would be far less gun deaths but we will gloss over that....
@@matwatson7947 Interesting that they squeal like stuck pigs over the _second_ half of the second amendment, but completely ignore the first half where it it mandates a _well REGULATED militia being necessary to the security of a free State..._ Also failing to note that they _type_ of arms being carried can also be regulated, since this is not prohibited under the amendment.
@@anserbauer309 What's even more interesting is idiots that don't have the foggiest fucking clue about how the word "regulated" was even used 200+ years ago and also think that a militia whose reason to exist is to stand against a tyrannical government is to be fully "regulated (modern usage)" by potentially that same fucking government. "We are here to stop you tyrant!" "Go fuck yourself!!!" "Sir, yes sir!" "That means get out!" "Yes sir! Sorry sir! Bye sir!" Stellar logic!
@@anserbauer309 It seems Americans don't want to progress their constitution to meet with current standards. The Constitution has and always should be a living document that is molded and updated to suit the needs of the country. This was intended all along by the founding fathers. I bet if they came along today and say that the 2nd amendment hadn't been... well amended, they'd be horrified when they what sort of weapons people possess. Damn, these days on person has more fire power than a whole block of people back in the 1790s. I agree 100% with your last point, guns can be regulated according to the 2nd amendment as it doesn't infringe on you being able to own a gun.
@@anserbauer309 "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I have to be honest, as a Belgian i speak Dutch Fench and English, but i have trouble understanding it. Even after translating it to Dutch, my native language. I understand the words but the construction of this statement makes it hard to fully understand. Does it mean that the country needs an army AND/OR the right to bar arms? I guess it is both. OR does it mean people have to able to form a well regulated militia themselves? Anyway, you are correct : it does not say anything about the type of arms. Handguns for self protection and hunting rifles for in bear country and that is it, why need more or bigger?
What you said at the beginning, that many people would get hurt if someone wanted to take away their guns, is the best example of why they shouldn't have those guns at all.
This reaction says it all. 100% on point. That's why they shouldn't have guns in the first place. Protection against wild animals is the only logical reason to have a rifle in the rural/nature parts of the US. Besides that there is NO reason at all, except: "I like guns". Simple.
@@jerry42023 Sorry dude, I live in a normal country with a normal government (Europe) we don't need guns (and accidentally) don't have guns violence. Figure that.
@@jamesm9995 If I was then this would have ben an issue all along. We've had firearm ownership since we were a country. We had kids that used to take guns to high school to go hunting afterwards (or before). We used to be able to buy a gun at a hardware store instantly - no background checks, no waiting period, etc. We had guns. What we didn't have was school shootings, driveby shootings, etc. Stop blaming guns and figure out what the real problem is.
It’s so difficult for you to appreciate life without guns because you live in the US....that’s not your fault, you have been conditioned to view the world around you as a risky/dangerous/untrustworthy place. It never occurs to people in the U.K. to worry about guns....until you have lived in a country that doesn’t idolise guns and gun ownership you will never fully understand.
@@seanwood82 ... virtually never , possibly once in a blue moon ...mostly knife crime and even that's 127 times less than just Chicago ..which has seen over 1000 homicides alone in 2021 which is more than in the UK for the entire 20th and 21st centuries in gun and knife crime...
Completely agree with this. Americans need to come to the UK and experience a life without fear. American women have told me every woman is afraid to walk in a town at night. I am not. Nobody I know is. I can see why American women would be, but in the UK, I feel completely safe.
Two quick things: -The gun is only helping the one who draws first. And thats in most cases the aggressor. - Violence cant be prescreened. Even more so in a country with no free health- and careinsurence and lot of drug problems.
We Europeans are laughing at you: No drinking beer in public until 21, no boobs on TV, but buying an assault rifle at 18... and a 100 times higher gun death rate...
you dont need an AR-15 for a bear though! our farmers in Australia still have access to all the firearms they need to protect their property from feral animals. It's just about COMMON SENSE gun control laws - not "taking away all your guns" :) ps. you said "I think all schools should have security" ... then there is something fundamentally wrong in America, because no other countries need security in schools
Tell me this. Wouldn't you want to know for sure where your kids go everyday has good protection. Take away school shootings for a second. How is that a bad thing to know where ur kid spends hours almost every day is a protected secure location. I don't plain on having kids personally just not something I want. But if I had a accident you bet ur ass I'd be guarding that place with my life any day I could with or without school shootings
@@DudeSaysThings we dont NEED to worry though because school shootings just ARENT A THING here mate. So no - we don't need to worry about something we don't need to worry about - sadly it's a uniquely American problem due to your gun culture
we've also had NO mass shootings since we got rid of most guns in 1996, whereas America has a mass shooting every 12.9 hours (2021 data). You have a problem that we simply don't have to worry about here.
@@DudeSaysThings there ARE places where a baton wielding guard CAN help in places where guns are illegal. Oh, i was born in a town where brown bears at dumpsters has been a thing for decades... you don't need machine guns to deal with them, though, kids in my old neighbourhood would watch mama bears and their cubs from a safe distance.
That that's fair if that was a law in affect I know alot of people would have issues but personally I don't even want a ar15 in my house so I wouldn't care. But I'd like to beable to have a glock or a shotgun just incase I ever need it
The main argument for owning a gun is, 'other people have guns'. The answer to this is not 'more guns'. The solution is to start reducing the number of guns, until the self-defence argument becomes redundant.
Absolutely right, how could more guns ever be the solution? Less guns and more restrictions to own guns is the only way to go, it is just common sense. But it will never happen in the USA as long as they have the NRA, they need their profit, they need to keep selling tons of guns so they can lobby(bribe) the politicians. USA need politicians that represent the people instead of big companies/organisations.
My favorite part was every time you paused it and made an argument, his next joke absolutely decimated your argument 😂 happened at least three times, gotta love it
He was happy to laugh about it and say ‘he called me out’. This guy obviously has some common sense and is intelligent enough to listen to someone with a different point of view.
Dude, you're a lovely guy. I have watched a lot of your reaction videos and liked them a lot. And I truly appreciate your willingness to take a lot of the points Jim Jefferies makes. I think you're absolutely 100% wrong on the right to own guns of course.. I mean the whole concept of gun ownership in the States is just totally bonkers. But we are all entitled to own opinions. I've been to America, and loved it. But heck, I thank God I don't live there. With the utmost respect Dude, I wouldn't want to live in a country where people have your opinions on guns.
You can own a gun in Australia but there a LOT of restrictions. Both health checks and Background checks also you need a reason like a farmer or a hunter.
In Australia need a place 2 Shooter the gun which can also be a gun club also to get a Shooters licence you had to have had no criminal convictions in the last 10 years and no Automatics it also takes the best part of a year to get a Shooters licence and another 3 months to get the gun
Aussie here. Americans that love their guns they don’t understand why there should be gun control bcos their culture worships their “right” to own guns. What about the rights of people to live?? People murdered with guns have a right to live but NO you took away their rights!! Those that love their guns worship death over life. It’s a sick way to live.
Also family members have the ability to veto your weapons license application on grounds of antisocial traits and risk to people close to the applicant. Your wife or kids can apply to prevent you from owning a gun.
I had to laugh, telling an Aussie about living with dangerous animals! Except in America you are not likely to wake up with a grizzly bear curled up at the end of your bed, like Aussies have done with snakes! Also hunters and farmers have guns and our police are armed, and even recreational shooters can own a gun. A lot of people I've spoken to actually had always thought we had an outright gun ban in Aus, when it's only assault rifles etc. I have a mate who hunts wild boar which are a menace and aggressive as hell, and owns 3 shotguns. There's a gun culture here, it's just a more "pragmatic" culture without the recreational or "general protection", like Americans. Our gun culture is more hunters/cullers, and farmers to keep roo numbers down and use around the property...or most of them anyway. The laws here definitely are very strict but almost nobody feels resentful about it, as most of us agree, just like Americans are so steeped in their gun culture that ripping it from them with a total ban would be literally asking someone to immediately stop overnight something they've always known!
Great comment. I own several firearms for hunting purposes as well as the odd clay target at the local club. Getting my licence was a long pain in the neck & the storage requirements are very strict. I fully support these hurdles. They’re a very, very good thing. If you need a semi-auto for hunting, then you’re a crap shot; go practice. And before anyone takes me to task on it, yes I have used used semi-auto & full auto assault rifles as well as pistols. I served in the Army and that’s where those kinds of weapons should stay. Semi-auto rapid fire is for suppression, not marksmanship. You don’t need to suppress a platoon of rabbits with direct fire.
Just one question: Have you ever wondered WHY in other countries, like australia, the uk, germany, france, canada, finland, austria, norway, ..., why those countries don't feel the need they need to protect themselves? Maybe the need for a gun for protection directly correlates to the potential amount of weapons around you. People in other countries love their guns, I know people who love their guns, I know people in gun clubs, I know hunters. I have never ever heard of someone getting a gun for protection. But hey that's in germany. One other thing. There are about 58,000 grizzly bears in the us and at least 390,000,000 guns in circulation in the us. I think you got that covered.
Did they ever have our situation though and thought how most Americans think. The answer Is no so why does it matter what yall did you never had this exact situation. Sure we can use certain aspects but as a whole we are in a unique situation
@@DudeSaysThings As a Canadian, I can happily say I've never ever thought how most Americans think. That's precisely why we don't "have this exact situation".
Only almost 100%? I would be interested in what you agree with Shayne Ramsay's stance. Perhaps you could enlighten us on what your perception of the Australian response was, and why it couldn't work in the USA?
Mate, you don't seem to understand. Australia (and New Zealand and Britain) didn't ban all guns: just the military style assault rifle types. Yes, hunting rifles are fine. As are shotguns. BUT ya don't need a 50 calibre machine gun to take hunting! Or machine pistols. These are designed and intended for War. eg Military use.
And you don't seem to understand I don't want army guns man. Lol seriously I have no needs for a ak47 other then it's fun to shoot and I'd like to experience that. As far as actually owning one bro I don't need that lol give me a glock or a shotgun and I'm good
GOOD for you to chat about your horrible incident. I think Australia is a gentler society than the usa. Thank God. But crime still happens. You stay safe cousin
😂😂 I've never seen someone put there foot in their mouth so many times in under 10mins. 🤣 It was nearly every time you paused it. Brilliant 😂😂😂 I must say it takes a real man to make fun of their own faults and I think there is more pride in that. Well done m8 👏👏👏
With being Australian Australia's gun control was really the result of 2 things happening, first was the shooting in Dunblane Scotland(where kids were killed) and the second was Port Arthur in Tasmania(where 30 odd people were killed many of them tourists), both happened in a fairly close time frame of each other so the Australian government at the time issued the gun ban and the gun buyback scheme to stop mass shootings from happening, the government worked out the plans and within 12 weeks the voting was approved and implemented.
In the U.K. we had the Hungerford Massacre followed by Dunblane and that was enough. Gun crime in the U.K. exists but it seems to be between rival drug gangs, and frankly, if they want to harm each other, fair enough.
@@davidmalarkey1302 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks Its not just the United States, but its the frequency that sets the US apart from the rest of the world - that and the fact that each time it happens much is said - but nothing actually happens to try and prevent the next one.
If the US did a gun buyback, they’d go broke! 😆 I recently told my 14 year old niece about the Port Arthur massacre. She was shocked as she had never heard about it before and didn’t know the changes that were made as a result.
I personally don't give a rat's rear end what anyone says, but there's no reason for any civilian to have an assault rifle and they should all be banned.
In Finland bears and snakes fear humans more than humans fear them. Easiest way to avoid getting attacked by mother bear or snake is by not sneaking in forest, make noise. But nothing will be able to save you from western capercaillie.
I think it's really sad that america didn't do what the rest of the world did and change the laws over time as the country developed. You are talking sense when you say that people should be screened before they can own a gun. In the UK we are allowed guns including an Uzi, but the screening is brutal. they contact your employer, interview your family and your doctor. They interview you in your house and make sure you have a proper gun safe. You have to have a really good reason to want a gun. The average person doesn't even think about being shot over here, so people don't buy guns for protection unless you're a criminal, in which case it won't be a registered firearm anyway. It's horrible that Americans don't feel safe walking down the street or even being in their home. I fear america is too far gone to rescue itself and the problem is getting worse every day. Good luck my friend. ✌️♥️🇬🇧
It depends where you are in the u.k - where i live you need 2 character witnesses and they ask your doctor about past mental illness but as long as you have no previous convictions and they think your sound of mind from a home interview and you have the safe etc then it’s very likely you will be granted a certificate
This interpretation of the 2nd Ammendment had only been around since 2008. It's the so-called militia-of-one interpretation. In the 1980s-90s it was the right to form a citizens militia, thus all the crazy militias of that era. Before that it was interpreted to mean an individual State's right to form a militia. However, it clearly states in various articles of the Constitution that only Congress has the power to call out the militia and only Congress can arm the militia.
the fact that you think that schools should have "good security" shows how dangerous the country is that you live and that you are completely unaware of it or are ok with it. actually its likely you are desensitized to it. so so so so so sad and crazy. what a dangerous place. Imagine raising children in the united states. so sad. so dangerous. so much unsafety. danger. danger. danger. danger.....sending love from Canada! :) xoxoxoxoxox
The Port Arthur victim's families gave the Australian authorities and the media the right to publish photos of the massacred bodies to show the horrors!!
I've said after every school shooting since Sandy Hook that if we Americans had to look at the shredded bodies of children slaughtered in their classrooms, we would have gun control right quick.
In what kind of country you want to live? Is it normal that schools need to be protected by armed veterans? Maybe bullet free vests and helmets for the children are the answer? So happy that my children didn't have to endure this craziness in Europe. School was a place to learn and play without fear.
So you want schools with little kids in, to have good fencing, metal detectors, secure doors and armed guards! does that remind you in any way of another type of Government building? you just need the search lights and watch towers.
Schools here already feed prison food why not lol. Seriously though I'm just thinking realistically theres way to many guns around to actually get rid of them way to many people want guns to give them up. At the end of the day a secure place doesn't need to be like a prison but atleast a secure entrance to ensure no weapons are brought isn't a bad thing
@@DudeSaysThings agree on the food! Your right (sadly) America has gone past the point of no return. Your death rate will just on keep increasing. Very sad.
I'm a supporter of gun control, but not a full out ban. Universal background checks, a nationwide gun registry, training and education, and limited access to assault weapons.
@@DudeSaysThings from experience, the failure of the state is transposed on to the citizen... Australia introduced extreme gun laws to reduce violent crime and suicide... result? Zero reduction in either, but a slight change in the methods... The greatest mass murders in History? Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot... all big fans of gun control, but starved, imprisoned, murdered and destroyed the indigenous culture, economy and stole ancestral lands for their own profit.
As an Australian, I have always seen the difference in our attitudes being related to how our countries were formed. Australia gained independence via political means, and the US fought for it's independence, and unity. Firearms are ingrained more into the culture there. With that said, firearms are not banned here. They are just heavily restricted and licensed. If you are in regional Australia, you can own a shotgun or rifle, as the reality is, you need it for various reasons - hunting, defending your livestock from predators, etc. In the cities though, you can be licensed for a firearm, but can only use it at a range, or if someone's farm etc. (NOTE: could be a bit wrong on this, not fully up to date). The US does need to do something though to curtail the amount of shootings there. It's not a simple solution, but at the end of the day should be that there should only be responsible gun owners, and they should only be used for responsible purposes.
Fellow Australian here. Last year I went for the first time to a firing range, really enjoyed it (as a "sport"/challenge). So I looked up laws about ownership with thoughts of maybe joining a club. From what I remember, even if you have an armed intruder and just point your gun at them, you can go to prison. I can't say I'm entirely happy about that, I would like the option to be able to defend myself in a worst case scenario. But the key really is in the middle somewhere. It should be immensely difficult to get a gun, but still possible if you can really prove yourself (probably impossible in itself).
I have a Cat B longarm licence (so that’s little rifles, big rifles, & shotguns). You’re pretty much bang-on correct about using them. There are other use-cases, but you’re correct.
@@dorkwell I own multiple firearms and also served in the Aus army. I can assure you that firearms are utterly useless for armed intruder self protection, for exactly the reasons that Jim describes. If there’s an armed intruder in your house, you’re not making your way to the gun safe. And also, a longarm (rifle or shotgun) is a massive liability in an indoors environment - professionals use much shorter barrelled carbines and such for indoor operations - not to mention your just as likely to shoot a family member in that highly charged and confusing situation. Even simulated battles during my army training were discombobulating; it would be 100 times worse in my own house, with an ill-suited weapon that’ll get stuck in a hallway, and my family’s lives on the line. I’m professionally trained and even for me it would be MEGA impractical and dangerous to use a firearm for home protection.
If they can screen veterans to make sure they're sane why can't they do it for the average American! The US government won't do it because the NRA lobbies for it not to happen!
@DudeSaysThings Is any politician actually advocating the herculean task of going door to door and taking peoples guns? Or is that just a right wing scare-mongering talking point that you have picked up from uneducated conservatives. Having that said, if your neighbour has been proven to be an unmedicated, sociopath, who has severe bipolar and suffers from alcohol induced hallucinations, that also owns 12 AR-15s - wouldn't you want the government to step in and "take their guns"? Sounds like you want sensible gun control measures, but you're hanging onto a defensive quote that doesn't actually exist and is created purely by the NRA to scare you into buying more guns. I think it's time for you to use logical thought-based narratives and shoot that "they are gonna take our guns" line in the head!
@@DudeSaysThings Nobody saying it. But some people guns will be taken from them if those laws become reality in the US. It'll apply not only to those who actually dangerous, but to those who will refuse to prove they are not. "To keep this type of gun you should get through special training". - "No, I had it X years before." (gun taken away) "No, it's too expensive for me" (gun taken away) etc.
Mental health screening is only effective when you have people who are ALREADY suffering from mental health issues. ANY 'normal' person .. is quite capable of reaching a threshold where they can break. There are MANY situations where people take action on the spur of the moment. If a firearm is handy, the situation can become far more deadly. Sure .. a knife or an axe can kill people ... but how many 'mass' killings have you heard about involving those weapons? An 'assault' weapon is designed to kill many people quickly and efficiently!!
While your argument about dangerous wild animals may have some credit. Many of the wild animals are ambush predators and they are very good at it. They will stalk you very carefully as they get closer and closer before they attack. The animals that you do see are often those you come across by chance which will only attack if they see you as a danger to them or their young. In reality unless you had been around many of these animals on a regular basis your immediate reaction would not be your gun but flight. If by some chance you did get a shot off then you had better kill the beast in one go because as any animal expert will tell you the most dangerous wild animal is a wounded wild animal. Many who do live in these isolated areas actually say you are better of with something like bear spray than a gun and that they only use guns to scare the animals away from their livestock. An interesting fact from the FBI they state that 85% of all the guns in the hands of criminals were obtained by the criminals as a result of them been stolen from citizens who obtained them legally.
Re when you were attacked: Why was he attacking you over money? Could it be that the richest country in the world can't even pay a decent wage to its citizens? Or maybe he was in so much debt from your country unbelievably unfair hospital, ambulance, medical, medicines system? Maybe he had a great paying job and possibly employed for years till he took a couple of day off from Covid. Then was sacked on the spot. NONE of that would happen in any major country in the world. Even China has a better deal for its people than the US. Sadly, the US has a very long way to go before it can ever be considered anything but a third world country to the rest of us.
Australian schools don't have security personnel......how does that bend your mind ? No need,no training to run zig zag either.Our kids go to school AND come home. You mentioned AKs. Why are they even allowed ? AR15s the same question.What's wrong with a rifle & a 5 shot magazine ? If you can't hit something with 5 shots then you need to learn to shoot.
4:10...Fairplay mate but during you life time how many Grizzly Bears have you run into...& of this multitude how many have you discharged a firearm at? While we don't have the bears & the cougars we do have Great White & Greenland sharks swimming off our shores and I can travel fairly easily to places in Europe where there are still wolves & bears roaming around. Now my solution to them isn't to arm myself with a fuck-ton of spearsguns, hunting rifles, pistols & various other methods of dealing death. Instead I just...take care & follow local instructions 🤔
As a European, who has hiked in bear country (US and Canada), i have bearspray, which is actually saver, more deterrend and better for the animal. Also your (and a lot of americans) reasoning that it is for your defence against bad people with guns can't continue. Because you are all "running in circles". Forever. The idea that you find it normal that schools need protection just blows my mind. This idea that you can find every bad or crazy person through screening is unrealistic. And even a person that is mentally stable at the time of purchase, can become a threat later on. Is it so difficult to understand that the only difference between the USA and the rest of the western world are the vast amount of guns in regular households. We have bad people, we have mentally unstable people (who also don't always get treatment or too late), we have schools, we have all you have, except easy access to guns. And you will say: our culture is different. Yes,but people can change, a culture can change. It needs to change to survive. It's worth it. Kids lifes are worth it.
This has to be the most hilarious reactions to this I've seen. Just seeing you bring up a possible solution, unpause, then Jim immediately responding to that, causing you to burst out laughing is the funniest thing ever.
Your first point of wild animals. I would assume that is where hunting rifles and shotguns come in as more useful, over a pistol or assault weapon. Your second point was if you had a gun you could kill a guy with a knife. Why, because of the ease with which a gun let you kill someone without a gun? What if the guy had a gun? What if he's more skilled with it? Fella with a knife can be a master with a blade but still has to come within arms reach of you, deal with you and then go after someone else. (Same for a guy with a rock or a bat.) Guy with a pistol and no training can empty it into a crowd. Guy with a rifle and no training can set up like the Vegas shooter. It's all about the ease with which they kill multiple people. As for guy with a gun taking out a bad guy with a gun - latest info is that over 20 police men balked at taking on one guy with two assault weapons. It's US law that the Police don't have to put themselves in harms way to protect a citizen if they don't want to. (Be that running into a burning building, jumping into the water after someone or going into a building after an armed suspect with hostages.) Look it up. You can have guns in the UK - we have strict controls - but we don't have mass shootings. We still have nutters with knifes and knife crime - but you don't have the time to kill 19 people with a knife or a rock before people or the police dog pile you. 80% of people in the US agree on tight controls - it's the 20% who don't care about anyone other than themselves or a pay check from the NRA that are stopping you. Which doesn't sound like a democracy to me. Try doing a video on British or European gun laws - No ones stopping you owning a gun if you can show why you need them, or can show you are an enthusiast who can be responsible with them. You also have to show training, usage and track ammo used, pass a medical check and background check and have regular inspections of them to ensure they are properly maintained and secure.
Exactly the point re the attacker having a gun. The more people who have guns, the more likely you expect someone who might threaten you to use one. It's the cold war nuclear proliferation idea on a smaller basis
I appreciate you not getting overly offended and laughing at the jokes that are meant to be laughed at. No matter your views I do enjoy seeing the respect both sides of it.
Hey, man. At least you had a sense of humor about it. I can think of a couple other UA-camrs who seemed to forget they were watching a comedy show while reacting to this. I'm a gun owner, but I agree with pretty much everything he's saying. Even in my super liberal state there was hardly any screening for me to own one legally. I don't pretend to have the answers, though. Either way, Jim is fkn hilarious.
I don't have the answers either man. I'm just a random dude and honestly this whole subject is way above myself and probably 99.999% of the people commenting on either sides pay grade. I just know either them trying to forcefully take guns wouldn't end well them trying to outlaw guns would end well. So my logic is instead of trying to ban guns let's but intense screening on who gets them and try to fix the things that are causing these issue in America so less people want to harm each other in the first place
@@DudeSaysThings I am totally anti-gun, but I agree with your assessment. And I don't think the subject is above your head, not at all. It may be that many people in the comments have thought about the subject longer and have researched statistics and such, but this is something that concerns you directly as a citizen and your opinion on the matter is absolutely valid. The important thing in such discussions is, I think, that you are willing to hear the arguments and really think about them honestly and not just brush them aside (like many, many, many people on the news do). And thank you for showing me another perspective: I haven't really though about the practical implementation of gun restrictions and what that would cause. I can imagine that some people would risk a civil war about that.
@@DudeSaysThings I think you biggest issue is this notion that somebody is "going to take your guns". In Australia, nobody took our guns, the govt offered to buy them back, no questions asked. They didn't come into our houses and take them. We voluntarily handed them in, because we were so appalled by what happened.
In Australia we do still have guns. There are gun shops (very few) and gun clubs with shooting ranges (again, very few). What changed in 1996 was heavy restrictions on what guns you can have (no auto or semi auto, no pump action, etc) and heavy regulation on storage, ownership and licensing. People in isolated rural areas and farms often have a bolt action rifle or a single action shotgun, fully licensed and securely stored.
I take your point about protection from dangerous animals, but in reality what percentage of the US population are at risk of coming into contact with a dangerous wild animal?
The UKs desperate for guns - the Geordies are running amok , the clay pigeons would breed like crazy and the haggis are stripping the Highlands bare And shotgun weddings have always been a northern tradition.
That's true but guess what we already have them if you took away guns form all the people who willingly give up guns who odds are wouldn't have been a issue anyway. The people with bad intentions still have guns. Then we have alot of gun owners who have guns for those peope who wouldn't willingly give them up without a fight hence why I fear banning guns would cause a actual war. I agree the USA needs to get its shit together but banning guns isn't the answer my friend
This has been one the best reactions from a pro gun person, simply because you were actually able to take his words to heart and understand this was ultimately a comedy routine, with a sprinkle of truth to it, like most comedy is nowadays
Dude you're getting a tough time in these comments and it's really not your fault, you're a product of your environment and circumstances. You only know what you know and what you've seen so it's not surprising that you think the way you do. On the flip side I'm 46, I'm from the UK. I (sort of) remember when the Dunblane massacre happened here and the aftermath and it was awful. I've never owned, fired or even held a gun in my life. I've never felt the need. I know people who have but it's not for me. I've also never been robbed or mugged or any of my family been the victim of a serious crime but in no way would I ever want a gun in or near my house. The idea that you at 19 feels like they want to own guns, learn martial arts, own big scary dogs so you feel safer is tragic. I feel so bad for you. But it's not just you, your whole nation (more or less) feels the same. I don't have any answers but at some point you have to look at other countries and wonder why are they like that and we're like this? It's far more complex than a UA-cam comment can explain. Stay safe boss
Lol I think its funny the people are so mad about my thoughts honestly it's made my day laughing at these angry people. But I really have nothing against the people we been raised in different places seen different things like that one story ive told yall is 1 of many stories i have like ive had a crazy fkin life even compared to most Americans but just over all we had different lives so of course we dont think the same. I just laugh at the people who genuinely get angry people like you who might disagree but your mad so its different I respect your views because just like me ur a product of ur surroundings. If I was born and raised in the UK with no guns I'd probably think like you to. You gotta keep in mind ive been raised around guns shot guns really didn't care about guns until that situation happened but yeah just as strange as it for you hearing I don't fear guns is how I feel when I hear people ducking for cover at the sound I don't claim to have the answers either I just know realistically people wouldn't give up guns so we need a different solution. Again though don't feel bad for me I'm honestly laughing at these angry people. Part of me wants to make another video and actually go say some outlandish stuff with it to a point where its beyond what i actual think like start saying everyone should have bombs and grenade launchers lol just really mess with people's heads I don't actually think that's smart but omg the comments would be unreal. I'm not going to because It's just not worth it but I'm tempted.
@@DudeSaysThings You're wrong about something. We're not angry at you. We pity you. We feel sorry for you and your whole country. The rampant insecurity and fear you all seem to feel. It's saddening.
lol people who disagree aren't who im talking there's alot of angry people to disagreeing doesn't mean anger ive just seen alot of angry people along with alot of cool people who see things different
Very interesting reaction. However, I dont think vets protecting schools would work as a good advertisement for students to join the armed forces. “Join the army, put your life at risk and come back to no home or support. Don’t worry though, you can get a poorly paid job to monitor a school and possibly get shot at again”. It doesn’t have the same ring as “join the navy, see the world” 😉😂
You argue the point and defend owning guns its quite laughable and pathetic crime in the US stems from the lack of jobs, opportunities, housing etc. That's where things should be sorted and will stop attacks for money. Allowing someone to be shot just for being on someone else's property shows how little your government thinks about the lives of the people.
Then you proven my point. You just admitted the issue is the people not the guns. As far as being shot for being on someone's land that depends. If ur braking in someone's house and get shot I don't feel bad. If ur cutting through the front unfenced yard trying to take a short cut that's different it's all situational
@@DudeSaysThings but guns don't shoot themselves they need people. A smoker can't smoke if they can't get cigarettes. The rest of the world especially in Europe know there are millions of things they know they need and want ever before they think urm I want a gun. I've been clay pigeon shooting and whilst I enjoyed it I didn't think wow I need to own a gun.
@@simonlockyear4653 great.. respect your opinion... just do force it on others? Gun ownership is a choice... either legally or illegally.. ban them? Like drugs, alcohol, vehicles... so a person misuses them and cause harm to others.. so no one should have access or use them?
@@jessmarks2214 Your argument fails when every other Social Democracy bans all or most guns and makes getting hold of one very difficult and expensive. The last thing people think about is "oh I must own a gun" or " I feel unsafe" it actually makes you feel safer, all you need for proof is check out all the UA-cam vids of Americans living abroad.
@@simonlockyear4653 actually it doesnt... look at Australian news sights at the moment... multiple shooting involving criminal hits.. our murder rate is on the rise as is suicide despite this being a justification for stricter laws... also explain how Police can provide protection and security when the nearest police station is a 4-12hrs drive and phone reception is non-existent?
I like the balance you bring to this video. Thanks for this. I'm Australian but I know that Australian style gun control and reduction would be fiercely resisted in America. Still, fixing gun registration and screening laws should help to reduce some shootings. And YES, every school in America should have security, it has simply come to that point.
The following quote is straight from the constitution of the United States of America. "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." It actually states that individuals have the right to bare arms in a well regulated militia. It does NOT state individuals have open rights to guns. In essence, it was giving civilians the opportunity to defend the USA, particularly the fringes of the country, against external threats. Before easy communication and transport it was considered a necessity. So using the constitutional rights argument is actually a 100 percent invalid argument. If you disagree with that, you simply aren't intelligent enough to read or understand your own constitution. In which case, you shouldn't own a gun!
You should read about documents and personal correspondence between the Founding Fathers related to what a "militia" was defined as back then. Essentially, any ablebodied man between a certain age was considered part of the militia, i.e. individuals. SCOTUS confirmed this in several cases (Heller being one of them). It doesn't guarantee ALL guns are not restricted as we'll see in newer gun legislature at the state levels, but it at least frames the mentality behind what a militia was/is.
G'day mate, it's so refreshing to hear an American agree with gun control, it's devastating as an Australian to hear about schools being shot up almost weekly over there and from experience of our gun control system how easy it is to fix. And its the common misconception Australia doesn't have guns, we do, we actually have e more guns now then before 1996 massacre. Yes at the start they had the buy back amnesty, bit that was to destroy all guns in Australia to start from scratch with the new system of licences and registration of guns. And yes we still have automatics like AR15s! You have different category licences and the guns fall Into set categories. I myself have a CAT A, B, C and H and I currently own a ruger American .22WMR, CZ 515 tactical .22WMR, Adler 12g shotgun, Warwick 308 Semi Auto (Australian manufacturered rifle) and a glock 9mm. Gun control works! And isn't a bann on guns! It exactly like owning a car, you have to have a license and that car must be registered and insured. (In Australia you must be a gun club member and attended 4 times a year to retain license and that club membership is also your public liability insurence)
My opinion on gun ownership/control/safety, is relatively simple. For the arguement of home defence, you don't need anything that fires more them once (so you don't need semi/full auto rifles) bolt/pump action rifles and shotguns are more then enough for animals and burglars, if you can't hit your target with one bullet, don't shoot, simple. I come from a family who are hunters and woodsman and have been so for generations leading all the way back to our European ancestors AND our Native American ancestors. If the sale along distribution of semi/full auto guns was outlawed, I don't think anybody would lose anything in terms of gun rights, at the very least, it'd make sure that the casualties FROM shootings would be drastically less.
Contrary to popular belief, you can get guns in the UK... in the countryside they are quite common., there is a Gun Shop 10 minutes walk from where I live. What we have is good gun control, and restrictions on types of weapons allowed... it makes a huge difference... part 2 will answer some of the big arguments that people make why it wouldn't work in the US.
i'm a pro-guns person too. i was raised from the age of 5 being told not to point it at to something alive even if you are %100 sure it's unloaded as a joke. infact not to even reach for it if you are not desperate to use (unless you are in a hunt or obviously defense). but jim makes great points. part 2 is great too, waiting for it. cheers.
Plenty of rural towns or farms in Austrlaia and other countries with strict gun control has guns and requires them in running the farm. Kids grow up around them and taught how to shoot. Difference is the environment and culture, to those people the gun is a tool like a chainsaw or a tractor, not a weapon. They treat it with respect, maintain it well like any other tool and operate it safely.
@@testsubject5990 yeah but it's "too" strict as i've heard bro (i have aussie friends) as i've heard the government can storm into your house in 4 am just to check if you still have the guns and it's and it's in a safe place. i dunno how much is true because i never had the chance to travel there but that's what i've heard. if that's true rules should be more loose at least in farming areas. cheers.
The problem with doing something when 'a kids showing all the signs' is that you'll get an answer like: "We can't do anything if no crime has been committed." Or they put them on meds that make them worse before they get better.
Here is a really strange thing. In Australia, my local high school has a police officer permanently based. Crime and violence in Brisbane Australia are pretty low and guns are not a problem and yet we can have a police officer on duty. There are more firearms in Australia today than existed in 1998. It is the type of firearm that has changed. A farmer or hunter can easily get the job done with a rimfire bolt action rifle or shotgun limited to holding five shells, they do not need some crappy worn-out milserp that can throw a round 3000 metres.
The majority of veterans on the streets are there BECAUSE they have PTSD or similar. Screening with invalidate most of them. (Another issue that America gets defensive over: health care. No one should be homeless. Those who are homeless due to health conditions shouldn't be. Healthcare should be paid through faxes and homeless people should have access to emergency accommodation and crisis support workers). Ask any gun owner and they will tell you they are a responsible gun owner. It's the wrong question. Ask them if they know an irresponsible gun owner. Every one knows an uncle Bobby who likes to shoot at critters on his back fence or sleeps with a loaded .44 under his pillow. The question is how do we keep uncle Bobby away from guns, especially when his ex wife is posting pics of her new husband and step kids on face book and Bobby is six cans deep on a crate of natty lite.
First video of yours I’m watching. Appreciate the open and honest discussion. Tricky subject but one we need to work together to solve. I have a lot to say but can only remember so much so here goes. Homeless vets being paid to secure schools is something I support, personally. I don’t know how many we have compared to how many schools we have, nor do I know how much they’d be paid or what it would take to make it happen. I do know that no one in government is discussing it, so it’s kind of a moot point. No serious person suggests ‘taking your guns’. That is just a hard right talking point. Hillary didn’t want to do it, Obama didn’t want to do it, no one does. Sensible gun control. That’s the thing, sensible. You made a point about someone buying an AK and asked ‘why do you need one?’ and you’re right. However, the second amendment pretty much makes that question irrelevant, along with the Heller decision from SCOTUS. Last thing I wanted to mention. You had some ‘hun experts should get together and figure it out’ I think you said with regard to some policy. Here’s the thing though, the government isn’t allowed to even study guns/mass shootings. I forget the exact language of the thing that prohibits it, but I believe it’s the department of tobacco, alcohol, and firearm that would handle that, but they’re not allowed to. Since they’re not allowed to study it, we can’t have any real reports on them, or how we could solve it. On to part two though!
“We need guns for self defence in America. We have dangerous animals!”
Me: laughs in Australian.
I was thinking the exact same thing 😂
Yeah he got dangerous animals come to Australia mate we'll show you dangerous animals
@@jacquelineallison3878 brilliant hahahaha
This boy is technically cheesecake in australia
It's called "bear country" Not "bear and some gun totin' goof" country If you hunt, Fine. Shoot the critter, skin it, butcher it, Cook it up with some yummy Freedom Fries and a nice Chianti. Show us the leftovers. Don't bother stuffing its head an hanging it on the wall at the Elk's Hall-"Benevolent and Protective" my ass!
Americans defending guns just have no idea how ridiculous that sounds to the rest of the world.
I’m in Canada we gave gun control and lots if bears including polar bears. Gun control doesn’t mean no guns
As a veteran, let me just say that there are many fellow veterans who shouldn't be anywhere near a school room with a gun. There's a reason that active duty soldiers have to store their personal weapons in the armory, and when they want to use them they have to check them out and return them when they've served whatever purpose they've checked them out for. Even during live deployments, there were arduous regulations surrounding weapon use. As a former member of a light infantry unit, I distinctly remember manning a guard post in the middle east under the following conditions:
1. My rifle had an empty magazine.
2. All the ammunition was kept in a sealed box whose seal was only to be broken if a threat refused to heed verbal warnings.
3. Once I broke the seal on the box and loaded my rifle I had to once again verbally confront the threat to give them another chance to back away.
4. I was finally allowed to fire a warning shot, and I'd better have a good reason for doing so because the platoon leaders were obligated to count all the ammunition in the box after every guard shift to verify that every single bullet was still there, and their chain of command was going to come down on them like a ton of bricks if they couldn't account for any discrepancies.
5. If the threat is still present after all that, then we're finally allowed to fire at will.
Was I upset about all that? Not really, because while only a small portion of the people I served with were absolutely nuts, it just takes one guy with an assault rifle to bring hell down on the rest of us. After our deployment was extended for several months due to the escalation of conflicts in the region, I spoke to several soldiers who flat out said that it's a good thing the ammunition was locked up because they would have gone on a murder spree otherwise. When I laughed and said, "Yeah, good one," they replied that they were being absolutely serious. I wish I was lying.
People have this impression that training someone in the use of weapons somehow makes them safer weapon users. While the military teaches rudimentary gun safety (about five minutes worth of explanations on how you should double check that your weapon isn't loaded when you're cleaning it, how you should keep the safety on at all times when not firing it, and how you should remove your clip and attempt to fire your weapon into a barrel of sand when coming off the firing range just to be sure the chamber is empty), weapon training does nothing whatsoever to address mental health issues. A crazy dude with training is more dangerous than an untrained crazy dude.
It's ironic that these trained soldiers who are perceived to be more qualified to bear arms are subject to far more regulation and restriction regarding weapons use than any civlian would ever be. We need to think about why that is.
Also, most of the "homeless veterans" you see on the streets aren't actual veterans. The few who are tend to be the guys with PTSD who shouldn't be anywhere near a school. Either that, or they're physically disabled in a manner that makes them unqualified to serve as guards. Veterans actually get decent benefits upon exiting the service, including tuition assistance and job counseling. Veterans who are sound in mind and body don't wind up homeless. I'm not saying that we shouldn't help them out, but I am saying that assigning them to guard school rooms isn't doing anyone any favors.
Finally, while the idea of upping the pay for security guards sounds great, I guarantee there's going to be a huge outcry whenever we try to raise taxes to pay for those wage increases.
What rifles had clips when we were in the middle East?
Very interesting
This is the first time I have ever learned something interesting from an anecdote in a UA-cam comment. Seriously, thanks for sharing.
You do realise that you don't have to raise taxes to pay a proper wage and the notion of austerity is completely fictitious to keep the mega-rich in a position to tell those they exploit that ultimately there won't ever be any kind of pay equity?
Because, although multi-billionaires don't pay tax, have vast profit margins, use of-shore accounts and tax havens for their own money, they have convinced the lowest earners that there just isn't any money anywhere and every time it looks like you receive a bonus of some kind, someone else in the system automatically takes it back from you in some form.
All to keep people in their place and saying things like "the pay rises will have to be met with higher taxes for everyone else!"
Thanks a lot. Your descriptions does a lot of sense to me and shed light on my former experiences and observations securing an US army base in Germany as a german trained soldier. I was kind of puzzled to see the barrels of sand with a small opening to point the rifle in to unload it. We never had that anywhere, but it makes a lot of sense to me.
The differences in gun training and gun handling are too many to tell ´em all here. I had to train for weeks handling/disassembling/assembling my assault rifle, before I got to shoot my first shot with it. When we changed the model, same thing again. In contrast to the US, German soldiers on watch anywhere (also in Germany) have fully loaded assault rifles and pistols on them. But they are well trained and follow strict procedures, so no worry.
"We got bears, we got wolves..."
In the middle of e.g New York? That's a bollocks excuse and you all know it. Jeffries' "Fuck you I like guns!" comment is 100% accurate.
i know right? this fat virgin nerd thinks we are all dumb and he is the only intelligent person in the world. there are wild animals only in his country? like roaming around outside his house?
It's blatantly obvious that if schools need armed security, then something has gone seriously wrong. No other developed nation even needs to consider such an extreme measure and it is an extreme measure. The fact that there are more mass shootings, in the US, than there are days in a year and that the US has more gun deaths each year than the whole of Europe, by quite some margin, are also little clues that something is seriously wrong. This needs a more comprehensive answer than extra mental health checks...
Batalan Mass Shooting, Madrid Bombing, the Nice Truck Massacre... security and protection of State? All your arguments rely on others with guns to provide for your own safety. Europe and Commonwealth Countries introduced Firearm laws in the 20's not to prevent crime to address fears of Communist revolutionaries. All you're doing is handing the responsibility of your safety to others. What do police carry? Guns. Why? Because laws only work with the ability to impose them, via force, real or implied.
Do laws protect you? Nope... they simply provide consequences for those who break them and authorises violence in their enforcement. You simply pay others to keep you morals and hands clean.. otherwise why have armed police.
@@LittleVboh just look at mass killings... you confuse intent with methods and worst still believe that police will respond and protect you? All these mass killings show is that relying on the State to protect you is delusional... if laws work how'd they happen? Ban guns... like drugs... prohibition? Still...guess you can record tragedy then pontificate over the bodies of the dead? No help... just a bystander... great ethics...
@@jessmarks2214 Jess Marks I understand how this is upsetting because the thought of a nation without firearms may seem surreal for the US. I get it.
I would urge you to - at least - look at this situation from an economical viewpoint.
Firearms are affordable, because they are legal. Legality of firearms enables for mass production, distribution and maintenance of firearms for the public in general. The black market with unregistered firearms will always exist.
It is now a matter of reducing the possibility to get a gun. Unregistered firearms are not that expensive and legally firearms aren't that unavailable as well.
If you ban firearms in the US, I mean make them illegal (not gun laws), the production, distribution and so on would decline abruptly and you would see a spike in prices. The possibility to get a gun would get lower and lower with time. That would mean a decline in mass shootings and violence with firearms.
Our police is always on edge, because the possibility of random people in the street, suspicious people or whatever owning a gun is very high.
I believe in the US government and that we can change the nation to a place where you can walk outside and live inside without the risk of getting shot.
This has been tested in Australia, Europe, China and Japan. We will always have criminals in the world, but when you enable them an easy way to achieve dangerous weapons that were meant to protect, then you have to give up a dangerous form of weapon and leave that to the executive part of our government. It is by the people for the people after all. We don't live in a dictatorship, otherwise the government would have banned weapons for the public a long time ago and you couldn't express any opinion publicly.
@@LittleVboh actually you dont get it... Gun control is the tool of the Tyrant.. Joseph Stalin "we don't allow people ideas, why would we allow guns"... The greatest crimes against humanity have been perpetrated by governments against their own citizens... Europe and Commonwealth countries are servile
@@jessmarks2214 we don't live in 16th/17th century anymore. Europeans grew up by trusting their democracy and their government after WW2. Why can't the USA grow up?
The USA is considered a 3rd world place to live. There is always fear of gun violence.
Here in Australia we have gun control. My kids never had to learn how to avoid getting shot, I never had to worry about my kids getting shot. I have never been afraid of getting shot. And we have mental health issues here. I sometimes leave my backdoor open when it's hot at night. That's freedom.
The problem is that if the US introduced Australia/UK gun control there would be massive outrage about US "rights". The vast percentage of people that own wouldn't.
There would be far less gun deaths but we will gloss over that....
@@matwatson7947 Interesting that they squeal like stuck pigs over the _second_ half of the second amendment, but completely ignore the first half where it it mandates a _well REGULATED militia being necessary to the security of a free State..._ Also failing to note that they _type_ of arms being carried can also be regulated, since this is not prohibited under the amendment.
@@anserbauer309 What's even more interesting is idiots that don't have the foggiest fucking clue about how the word "regulated" was even used 200+ years ago and also think that a militia whose reason to exist is to stand against a tyrannical government is to be fully "regulated (modern usage)" by potentially that same fucking government.
"We are here to stop you tyrant!"
"Go fuck yourself!!!"
"Sir, yes sir!"
"That means get out!"
"Yes sir!
Sorry sir!
Bye sir!"
Stellar logic!
@@anserbauer309 It seems Americans don't want to progress their constitution to meet with current standards. The Constitution has and always should be a living document that is molded and updated to suit the needs of the country. This was intended all along by the founding fathers. I bet if they came along today and say that the 2nd amendment hadn't been... well amended, they'd be horrified when they what sort of weapons people possess. Damn, these days on person has more fire power than a whole block of people back in the 1790s. I agree 100% with your last point, guns can be regulated according to the 2nd amendment as it doesn't infringe on you being able to own a gun.
@@anserbauer309 "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I have to be honest, as a Belgian i speak Dutch Fench and English, but i have trouble understanding it. Even after translating it to Dutch, my native language. I understand the words but the construction of this statement makes it hard to fully understand. Does it mean that the country needs an army AND/OR the right to bar arms? I guess it is both. OR does it mean people have to able to form a well regulated militia themselves?
Anyway, you are correct : it does not say anything about the type of arms. Handguns for self protection and hunting rifles for in bear country and that is it, why need more or bigger?
The idea of giving a vet with PTSD a gun and putting them in a school is baffling.
That is exactly the reason class 3 weapons shouldn't be available to buy at the pawn shop either.
He said in the video that it has to be ensured that the vet is *not* suffering from ptsd.
@@SvEd76 ah so how many vets that are not suffering from ptsd are homeless and jobless ? :D my bet is on
@@proxis9980 exactly!
** correction: vet with PTSD and no social support system or proper healthcare
What you said at the beginning, that many people would get hurt if someone wanted to take away their guns, is the best example of why they shouldn't have those guns at all.
Chairman Mao would be proud, comrade.
This reaction says it all. 100% on point. That's why they shouldn't have guns in the first place. Protection against wild animals is the only logical reason to have a rifle in the rural/nature parts of the US. Besides that there is NO reason at all, except: "I like guns". Simple.
@@adriekeur7429 shut up bootlicker
@@adriekeur7429 tell ur government overlords to lay down their arms first then maybe we can talk
@@jerry42023 Sorry dude, I live in a normal country with a normal government (Europe) we don't need guns (and accidentally) don't have guns violence. Figure that.
Canadian here from small town "bear country". No one has a gun to protect themselves from animals. Insane take.
If you're living in a country, where schools need armed protection something is very wrong.
Yes, something is wrong, but it isn't firearm ownership.
@@rangerrecon it’s the fact that crazy people are walking around.
@@obamama4632every country has crazy people
@@rangerreconhow wrong can you possibly be
@@jamesm9995 If I was then this would have ben an issue all along. We've had firearm ownership since we were a country. We had kids that used to take guns to high school to go hunting afterwards (or before). We used to be able to buy a gun at a hardware store instantly - no background checks, no waiting period, etc. We had guns. What we didn't have was school shootings, driveby shootings, etc. Stop blaming guns and figure out what the real problem is.
It’s so difficult for you to appreciate life without guns because you live in the US....that’s not your fault, you have been conditioned to view the world around you as a risky/dangerous/untrustworthy place. It never occurs to people in the U.K. to worry about guns....until you have lived in a country that doesn’t idolise guns and gun ownership you will never fully understand.
well said, America has become some sort of open day on shooting up schools, what on earth is in the water in Texas...🤷🤦🤦
I wouldn't say never happens in uk depends which part you're from
@@seanwood82 ... virtually never , possibly once in a blue moon ...mostly knife crime and even that's 127 times less than just Chicago ..which has seen over 1000 homicides alone in 2021 which is more than in the UK for the entire 20th and 21st centuries in gun and knife crime...
@@seanwood82 It really doesn't.
Completely agree with this. Americans need to come to the UK and experience a life without fear. American women have told me every woman is afraid to walk in a town at night. I am not. Nobody I know is. I can see why American women would be, but in the UK, I feel completely safe.
Two quick things:
-The gun is only helping the one who draws first. And thats in most cases the aggressor.
- Violence cant be prescreened. Even more so in a country with no free health- and careinsurence and lot of drug problems.
We Europeans are laughing at you: No drinking beer in public until 21, no boobs on TV, but buying an assault rifle at 18... and a 100 times higher gun death rate...
The deeper issue is Americans are unable to be honest about this issue. It is called cognitive dissonance.
you dont need an AR-15 for a bear though! our farmers in Australia still have access to all the firearms they need to protect their property from feral animals. It's just about COMMON SENSE gun control laws - not "taking away all your guns" :)
ps. you said "I think all schools should have security" ... then there is something fundamentally wrong in America, because no other countries need security in schools
Tell me this. Wouldn't you want to know for sure where your kids go everyday has good protection. Take away school shootings for a second. How is that a bad thing to know where ur kid spends hours almost every day is a protected secure location. I don't plain on having kids personally just not something I want. But if I had a accident you bet ur ass I'd be guarding that place with my life any day I could with or without school shootings
@@DudeSaysThings we dont NEED to worry though because school shootings just ARENT A THING here mate. So no - we don't need to worry about something we don't need to worry about - sadly it's a uniquely American problem due to your gun culture
there has been ZERO school shootings in Australia's history.
we've also had NO mass shootings since we got rid of most guns in 1996, whereas America has a mass shooting every 12.9 hours (2021 data). You have a problem that we simply don't have to worry about here.
@@DudeSaysThings there ARE places where a baton wielding guard CAN help in places where guns are illegal. Oh, i was born in a town where brown bears at dumpsters has been a thing for decades... you don't need machine guns to deal with them, though, kids in my old neighbourhood would watch mama bears and their cubs from a safe distance.
You don't need an AR-15 to protect yourself against a bear. In Canada we have bears too and rifles but not those "big guns".
That that's fair if that was a law in affect I know alot of people would have issues but personally I don't even want a ar15 in my house so I wouldn't care. But I'd like to beable to have a glock or a shotgun just incase I ever need it
C'mon, man. American bears probably have an AR themselves. Fight fire with fire.
@@Lightningrod75 They do have the right to bear arms....
@@ak99uk 🤣
Good point! Why would anyone need anything bigger than a hunting rifle?
The main argument for owning a gun is, 'other people have guns'. The answer to this is not 'more guns'. The solution is to start reducing the number of guns, until the self-defence argument becomes redundant.
100%
Absolutely right, how could more guns ever be the solution? Less guns and more restrictions to own guns is the only way to go, it is just common sense. But it will never happen in the USA as long as they have the NRA, they need their profit, they need to keep selling tons of guns so they can lobby(bribe) the politicians. USA need politicians that represent the people instead of big companies/organisations.
That's why Russia is currently able to brutally level Ukraine.
6000+ atomic weapons...that's why.
Exactly
@@Snaakie83 what do you mean, I don’t understand?
My favorite part was every time you paused it and made an argument, his next joke absolutely decimated your argument 😂 happened at least three times, gotta love it
The guy's a complete knobhead.
He was happy to laugh about it and say ‘he called me out’.
This guy obviously has some common sense and is intelligent enough to listen to someone with a different point of view.
@@EricHarris-xd1rvBut not intelligent enough to change his stance.
It happened twice lol the 'for protection' thing and then again with the 'keep them in a safe'.
He destroyed every one of your arguments 30secs after you made it. 😂
Dude, you're a lovely guy. I have watched a lot of your reaction videos and liked them a lot. And I truly appreciate your willingness to take a lot of the points Jim Jefferies makes. I think you're absolutely 100% wrong on the right to own guns of course.. I mean the whole concept of gun ownership in the States is just totally bonkers. But we are all entitled to own opinions. I've been to America, and loved it. But heck, I thank God I don't live there. With the utmost respect Dude, I wouldn't want to live in a country where people have your opinions on guns.
Absolutely agree.
I thank god you don't live in America too.
@@PlasticMacele 😂😂 fvcking idiot, you’re thankful that someone who has no love or need for guns doesn’t live there? What a knob
@@PlasticMacele Which god?
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You can own a gun in Australia but there a LOT of restrictions. Both health checks and Background checks also you need a reason like a farmer or a hunter.
In Australia need a place 2 Shooter the gun which can also be a gun club also to get a Shooters licence you had to have had no criminal convictions in the last 10 years and no Automatics it also takes the best part of a year to get a Shooters licence and another 3 months to get the gun
Aussie here. Americans that love their guns they don’t understand why there should be gun control bcos their culture worships their “right” to own guns. What about the rights of people to live?? People murdered with guns have a right to live but NO you took away their rights!! Those that love their guns worship death over life. It’s a sick way to live.
Same here in NZ, my brother is a cop and can’t get his gun license due to having depression in the past
And certain types of guns are completely banned.
Also family members have the ability to veto your weapons license application on grounds of antisocial traits and risk to people close to the applicant. Your wife or kids can apply to prevent you from owning a gun.
I had to laugh, telling an Aussie about living with dangerous animals! Except in America you are not likely to wake up with a grizzly bear curled up at the end of your bed, like Aussies have done with snakes!
Also hunters and farmers have guns and our police are armed, and even recreational shooters can own a gun. A lot of people I've spoken to actually had always thought we had an outright gun ban in Aus, when it's only assault rifles etc.
I have a mate who hunts wild boar which are a menace and aggressive as hell, and owns 3 shotguns. There's a gun culture here, it's just a more "pragmatic" culture without the recreational or "general protection", like Americans.
Our gun culture is more hunters/cullers, and farmers to keep roo numbers down and use around the property...or most of them anyway.
The laws here definitely are very strict but almost nobody feels resentful about it, as most of us agree, just like Americans are so steeped in their gun culture that ripping it from them with a total ban would be literally asking someone to immediately stop overnight something they've always known!
Great comment. I own several firearms for hunting purposes as well as the odd clay target at the local club. Getting my licence was a long pain in the neck & the storage requirements are very strict. I fully support these hurdles. They’re a very, very good thing.
If you need a semi-auto for hunting, then you’re a crap shot; go practice. And before anyone takes me to task on it, yes I have used used semi-auto & full auto assault rifles as well as pistols. I served in the Army and that’s where those kinds of weapons should stay. Semi-auto rapid fire is for suppression, not marksmanship. You don’t need to suppress a platoon of rabbits with direct fire.
When seconds count, police are minutes away.
The schools in the US can't even afford books/paper/pencils, how on earth will they afford armed guards.
I got a gun to protect my family, my wife and five kids. I then got rid of the gun to protect my four children.
Edit: This was a joke by the way.
Just one question: Have you ever wondered WHY in other countries, like australia, the uk, germany, france, canada, finland, austria, norway, ..., why those countries don't feel the need they need to protect themselves? Maybe the need for a gun for protection directly correlates to the potential amount of weapons around you. People in other countries love their guns, I know people who love their guns, I know people in gun clubs, I know hunters. I have never ever heard of someone getting a gun for protection. But hey that's in germany.
One other thing. There are about 58,000 grizzly bears in the us and at least 390,000,000 guns in circulation in the us. I think you got that covered.
Did they ever have our situation though and thought how most Americans think. The answer Is no so why does it matter what yall did you never had this exact situation. Sure we can use certain aspects but as a whole we are in a unique situation
@@DudeSaysThings what situation are you talking about exactly?
@@DudeSaysThings unique situation? What? You’re all fat & stupid? 😂
@@kilianshatwell1027 Seeing as he didnt reply, none I guess. Not surprising to be honest.
@@DudeSaysThings As a Canadian, I can happily say I've never ever thought how most Americans think. That's precisely why we don't "have this exact situation".
I disagree with your stance almost 100%. But I really appreciate that you are tackling this subject honestly and in good faith.
I respect that bro seriously. It's alright to disagree I'd still be cool with you if we met. Big up wish more people thought like you did
Only almost 100%? I would be interested in what you agree with Shayne Ramsay's stance.
Perhaps you could enlighten us on what your perception of the Australian response was, and why it couldn't work in the USA?
Mate, you don't seem to understand. Australia (and New Zealand and Britain) didn't ban all guns: just the military style assault rifle types. Yes, hunting rifles are fine. As are shotguns. BUT ya don't need a 50 calibre machine gun to take hunting! Or machine pistols. These are designed and intended for War. eg Military use.
And you don't seem to understand I don't want army guns man. Lol seriously I have no needs for a ak47 other then it's fun to shoot and I'd like to experience that. As far as actually owning one bro I don't need that lol give me a glock or a shotgun and I'm good
@mcchickenz a glock is not a high accuracy gun, nor a weapon of war. It's a point-and-shoot basic handgun with the ergonomics of a brick.
@mcchickenz so all guns should be impossible to use with any degree of efficiency to be legal?
@mcchickenz and why no 9mm? I'm more of a 45acp guy myself, but why do you want to ban one of the most basic self-defense cartridges?
GOOD for you to chat about your horrible incident. I think Australia is a gentler society than the usa. Thank God. But crime still happens. You stay safe cousin
He said "dude, we have grizzly bears, we have BLACKKK...---"
Me: 😬😬
"...bears."
Me: 😮💨😮💨
Lmaoo.
😂😂 I've never seen someone put there foot in their mouth so many times in under 10mins. 🤣 It was nearly every time you paused it. Brilliant 😂😂😂 I must say it takes a real man to make fun of their own faults and I think there is more pride in that. Well done m8 👏👏👏
I've had the pleasure of seeing Jim live twice. He's extremely dark, extremely clever, and extremely funny.
I remember seeing him way back at the comedy store in Manchester, didn’t like him (think he was pissed) love him now though.
As an Aussie... think Jim is total wanker... we alotta jim jeffries here. No idea or facts.. just sanctimonious dickheads dribbling shit.
I've seen him 4 times in nashville. and every time is spectacular.
With being Australian Australia's gun control was really the result of 2 things happening, first was the shooting in Dunblane Scotland(where kids were killed) and the second was Port Arthur in Tasmania(where 30 odd people were killed many of them tourists), both happened in a fairly close time frame of each other so the Australian government at the time issued the gun ban and the gun buyback scheme to stop mass shootings from happening, the government worked out the plans and within 12 weeks the voting was approved and implemented.
In the U.K. we had the Hungerford Massacre followed by Dunblane and that was enough. Gun crime in the U.K. exists but it seems to be between rival drug gangs, and frankly, if they want to harm each other, fair enough.
America is the only country on earth where mass shootings happen
@@davidmalarkey1302 Agreed and on a daily basis.
@@davidmalarkey1302 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_attacks Its not just the United States, but its the frequency that sets the US apart from the rest of the world - that and the fact that each time it happens much is said - but nothing actually happens to try and prevent the next one.
If the US did a gun buyback, they’d go broke! 😆
I recently told my 14 year old niece about the Port Arthur massacre. She was shocked as she had never heard about it before and didn’t know the changes that were made as a result.
I personally don't give a rat's rear end what anyone says, but there's no reason for any civilian to have an assault rifle and they should all be banned.
American: "We got very fucking dangerous animals."
... while watching an australian argue against the need for guns.
A PTSD veteran on campus with an automatic weapon. What could possibly go wrong.
They have bears and wolves in Europe as well. they don't walk around with Armalites.
In Finland bears and snakes fear humans more than humans fear them.
Easiest way to avoid getting attacked by mother bear or snake is by not sneaking in forest, make noise.
But nothing will be able to save you from western capercaillie.
@@UltraCasualPenguin beast of a bird
I think it's really sad that america didn't do what the rest of the world did and change the laws over time as the country developed. You are talking sense when you say that people should be screened before they can own a gun. In the UK we are allowed guns including an Uzi, but the screening is brutal. they contact your employer, interview your family and your doctor. They interview you in your house and make sure you have a proper gun safe. You have to have a really good reason to want a gun. The average person doesn't even think about being shot over here, so people don't buy guns for protection unless you're a criminal, in which case it won't be a registered firearm anyway. It's horrible that Americans don't feel safe walking down the street or even being in their home. I fear america is too far gone to rescue itself and the problem is getting worse every day. Good luck my friend. ✌️♥️🇬🇧
It depends where you are in the u.k - where i live you need 2 character witnesses and they ask your doctor about past mental illness but as long as you have no previous convictions and they think your sound of mind from a home interview and you have the safe etc then it’s very likely you will be granted a certificate
This interpretation of the 2nd Ammendment had only been around since 2008. It's the so-called militia-of-one interpretation. In the 1980s-90s it was the right to form a citizens militia, thus all the crazy militias of that era. Before that it was interpreted to mean an individual State's right to form a militia.
However, it clearly states in various articles of the Constitution that only Congress has the power to call out the militia and only Congress can arm the militia.
@@jonathanparry7824 and that's how it should be mate.
1776 biatch
the fact that you think that schools should have "good security" shows how dangerous the country is that you live and that you are completely unaware of it or are ok with it. actually its likely you are desensitized to it. so so so so so sad and crazy. what a dangerous place. Imagine raising children in the united states. so sad. so dangerous. so much unsafety. danger. danger. danger. danger.....sending love from Canada! :) xoxoxoxoxox
4:15: Australia has spiders almost the size of grizzly bears… so… 😂🤣😂
I like how DudeSaysThings makes a point, literally 2 secs before the video explains why that point doesnt make sense :D
The Port Arthur victim's families gave the Australian authorities and the media the right to publish photos of the massacred bodies to show the horrors!!
I've said after every school shooting since Sandy Hook that if we Americans had to look at the shredded bodies of children slaughtered in their classrooms, we would have gun control right quick.
Bullshit
In what kind of country you want to live? Is it normal that schools need to be protected by armed veterans? Maybe bullet free vests and helmets for the children are the answer? So happy that my children didn't have to endure this craziness in Europe. School was a place to learn and play without fear.
yea, veterans with PTSD and other mental and health issues should certainly guard schools :)
So you want schools with little kids in, to have good fencing, metal detectors, secure doors and armed guards! does that remind you in any way of another type of Government building? you just need the search lights and watch towers.
Schools here already feed prison food why not lol. Seriously though I'm just thinking realistically theres way to many guns around to actually get rid of them way to many people want guns to give them up. At the end of the day a secure place doesn't need to be like a prison but atleast a secure entrance to ensure no weapons are brought isn't a bad thing
@@DudeSaysThings agree on the food! Your right (sadly) America has gone past the point of no return. Your death rate will just on keep increasing. Very sad.
I'm a supporter of gun control, but not a full out ban. Universal background checks, a nationwide gun registry, training and education, and limited access to assault weapons.
id support that to gun control isnt what im fighting its banning and taking guns form innocent people as long as that dont happen im fine
@@DudeSaysThings from experience, the failure of the state is transposed on to the citizen... Australia introduced extreme gun laws to reduce violent crime and suicide... result? Zero reduction in either, but a slight change in the methods... The greatest mass murders in History? Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot... all big fans of gun control, but starved, imprisoned, murdered and destroyed the indigenous culture, economy and stole ancestral lands for their own profit.
Mental health evaluation, too.
No national gun registry it totally defeats the purpose of 2A.
Why do you have to be so potty mouthed?
I would never send my child to a school that had security guards. What a horrible environment for kids. What a warped idea. I am an Aussie.
in australia we love our cute fluffy dogs ... as we dont live in a concentration camp of fear
So, in down town any where, how many wolves, bears, grizzlies are wandering around?
Jim Jeffries is making great points here. He's making fun of America's obsession with guns knowing they will likely never change. LOL!
As an Australian, I have always seen the difference in our attitudes being related to how our countries were formed. Australia gained independence via political means, and the US fought for it's independence, and unity. Firearms are ingrained more into the culture there.
With that said, firearms are not banned here. They are just heavily restricted and licensed. If you are in regional Australia, you can own a shotgun or rifle, as the reality is, you need it for various reasons - hunting, defending your livestock from predators, etc. In the cities though, you can be licensed for a firearm, but can only use it at a range, or if someone's farm etc. (NOTE: could be a bit wrong on this, not fully up to date).
The US does need to do something though to curtail the amount of shootings there. It's not a simple solution, but at the end of the day should be that there should only be responsible gun owners, and they should only be used for responsible purposes.
Fellow Australian here. Last year I went for the first time to a firing range, really enjoyed it (as a "sport"/challenge). So I looked up laws about ownership with thoughts of maybe joining a club. From what I remember, even if you have an armed intruder and just point your gun at them, you can go to prison.
I can't say I'm entirely happy about that, I would like the option to be able to defend myself in a worst case scenario. But the key really is in the middle somewhere. It should be immensely difficult to get a gun, but still possible if you can really prove yourself (probably impossible in itself).
I have a Cat B longarm licence (so that’s little rifles, big rifles, & shotguns). You’re pretty much bang-on correct about using them. There are other use-cases, but you’re correct.
@@dorkwell I own multiple firearms and also served in the Aus army. I can assure you that firearms are utterly useless for armed intruder self protection, for exactly the reasons that Jim describes. If there’s an armed intruder in your house, you’re not making your way to the gun safe. And also, a longarm (rifle or shotgun) is a massive liability in an indoors environment - professionals use much shorter barrelled carbines and such for indoor operations - not to mention your just as likely to shoot a family member in that highly charged and confusing situation. Even simulated battles during my army training were discombobulating; it would be 100 times worse in my own house, with an ill-suited weapon that’ll get stuck in a hallway, and my family’s lives on the line.
I’m professionally trained and even for me it would be MEGA impractical and dangerous to use a firearm for home protection.
Australia first gained independence from England authority in the eureka stockade which definitely included guns
Criminals don't obey laws.
He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he laughs so gleefully as his country's children are slaughtered...
This dude pausing to make a rebuttal all thr while i know whats to come and Jim is about to address it has just been an absolute delight 😂
This guy hasn't spent anytime anywhere near the outdoors. Don't worry about bears.
If they can screen veterans to make sure they're sane why can't they do it for the average American! The US government won't do it because the NRA lobbies for it not to happen!
Exactly though again I'm not saying don't change shit I'm just saying don't go taking ppls guns
@DudeSaysThings Is any politician actually advocating the herculean task of going door to door and taking peoples guns? Or is that just a right wing scare-mongering talking point that you have picked up from uneducated conservatives. Having that said, if your neighbour has been proven to be an unmedicated, sociopath, who has severe bipolar and suffers from alcohol induced hallucinations, that also owns 12 AR-15s - wouldn't you want the government to step in and "take their guns"?
Sounds like you want sensible gun control measures, but you're hanging onto a defensive quote that doesn't actually exist and is created purely by the NRA to scare you into buying more guns. I think it's time for you to use logical thought-based narratives and shoot that "they are gonna take our guns" line in the head!
@@DudeSaysThings Nobody saying it. But some people guns will be taken from them if those laws become reality in the US. It'll apply not only to those who actually dangerous, but to those who will refuse to prove they are not.
"To keep this type of gun you should get through special training". - "No, I had it X years before." (gun taken away) "No, it's too expensive for me" (gun taken away) etc.
@@DudeSaysThings But you have to remember that even criminals once were "good guy with gun".
I would say money in politics in the US is the #1 issue I would solve if I could.
Mental health screening is only effective when you have people who are ALREADY suffering from mental health issues.
ANY 'normal' person .. is quite capable of reaching a threshold where they can break. There are MANY situations where people take action on the spur of the moment. If a firearm is handy, the situation can become far more deadly.
Sure .. a knife or an axe can kill people ... but how many 'mass' killings have you heard about involving those weapons?
An 'assault' weapon is designed to kill many people quickly and efficiently!!
Mental health screening in a country with an appalling healthcare system. 🤣😂🤣.
While your argument about dangerous wild animals may have some credit. Many of the wild animals are ambush predators and they are very good at it. They will stalk you very carefully as they get closer and closer before they attack. The animals that you do see are often those you come across by chance which will only attack if they see you as a danger to them or their young. In reality unless you had been around many of these animals on a regular basis your immediate reaction would not be your gun but flight. If by some chance you did get a shot off then you had better kill the beast in one go because as any animal expert will tell you the most dangerous wild animal is a wounded wild animal. Many who do live in these isolated areas actually say you are better of with something like bear spray than a gun and that they only use guns to scare the animals away from their livestock.
An interesting fact from the FBI they state that 85% of all the guns in the hands of criminals were obtained by the criminals as a result of them been stolen from citizens who obtained them legally.
Re when you were attacked: Why was he attacking you over money?
Could it be that the richest country in the world can't even pay a decent wage to its citizens?
Or maybe he was in so much debt from your country unbelievably unfair hospital, ambulance, medical, medicines system?
Maybe he had a great paying job and possibly employed for years till he took a couple of day off from Covid. Then was sacked on the spot.
NONE of that would happen in any major country in the world. Even China has a better deal for its people than the US.
Sadly, the US has a very long way to go before it can ever be considered anything but a third world country to the rest of us.
Canadian here, can confirm America is a true third world country.
Australian schools don't have security personnel......how does that bend your mind ? No need,no training to run zig zag either.Our kids go to school AND come home. You mentioned AKs. Why are they even allowed ? AR15s the same question.What's wrong with a rifle & a 5 shot magazine ? If you can't hit something with 5 shots then you need to learn to shoot.
4:10...Fairplay mate but during you life time how many Grizzly Bears have you run into...& of this multitude how many have you discharged a firearm at? While we don't have the bears & the cougars we do have Great White & Greenland sharks swimming off our shores and I can travel fairly easily to places in Europe where there are still wolves & bears roaming around. Now my solution to them isn't to arm myself with a fuck-ton of spearsguns, hunting rifles, pistols & various other methods of dealing death. Instead I just...take care & follow local instructions 🤔
Personally not alot but I also don't live in areas with them
As a European, who has hiked in bear country (US and Canada), i have bearspray, which is actually saver, more deterrend and better for the animal. Also your (and a lot of americans) reasoning that it is for your defence against bad people with guns can't continue. Because you are all "running in circles". Forever. The idea that you find it normal that schools need protection just blows my mind. This idea that you can find every bad or crazy person through screening is unrealistic. And even a person that is mentally stable at the time of purchase, can become a threat later on. Is it so difficult to understand that the only difference between the USA and the rest of the western world are the vast amount of guns in regular households. We have bad people, we have mentally unstable people (who also don't always get treatment or too late), we have schools, we have all you have, except easy access to guns. And you will say: our culture is different. Yes,but people can change, a culture can change. It needs to change to survive. It's worth it. Kids lifes are worth it.
This has to be the most hilarious reactions to this I've seen. Just seeing you bring up a possible solution, unpause, then Jim immediately responding to that, causing you to burst out laughing is the funniest thing ever.
I can't lie it is funny
Your first point of wild animals. I would assume that is where hunting rifles and shotguns come in as more useful, over a pistol or assault weapon.
Your second point was if you had a gun you could kill a guy with a knife. Why, because of the ease with which a gun let you kill someone without a gun? What if the guy had a gun? What if he's more skilled with it?
Fella with a knife can be a master with a blade but still has to come within arms reach of you, deal with you and then go after someone else. (Same for a guy with a rock or a bat.)
Guy with a pistol and no training can empty it into a crowd.
Guy with a rifle and no training can set up like the Vegas shooter. It's all about the ease with which they kill multiple people.
As for guy with a gun taking out a bad guy with a gun - latest info is that over 20 police men balked at taking on one guy with two assault weapons. It's US law that the Police don't have to put themselves in harms way to protect a citizen if they don't want to. (Be that running into a burning building, jumping into the water after someone or going into a building after an armed suspect with hostages.) Look it up.
You can have guns in the UK - we have strict controls - but we don't have mass shootings. We still have nutters with knifes and knife crime - but you don't have the time to kill 19 people with a knife or a rock before people or the police dog pile you.
80% of people in the US agree on tight controls - it's the 20% who don't care about anyone other than themselves or a pay check from the NRA that are stopping you. Which doesn't sound like a democracy to me.
Try doing a video on British or European gun laws - No ones stopping you owning a gun if you can show why you need them, or can show you are an enthusiast who can be responsible with them. You also have to show training, usage and track ammo used, pass a medical check and background check and have regular inspections of them to ensure they are properly maintained and secure.
Exactly the point re the attacker having a gun. The more people who have guns, the more likely you expect someone who might threaten you to use one. It's the cold war nuclear proliferation idea on a smaller basis
I appreciate you not getting overly offended and laughing at the jokes that are meant to be laughed at. No matter your views I do enjoy seeing the respect both sides of it.
You have Mountain Lions? What do we have in Africa then? 🤣
Hey, man. At least you had a sense of humor about it. I can think of a couple other UA-camrs who seemed to forget they were watching a comedy show while reacting to this. I'm a gun owner, but I agree with pretty much everything he's saying. Even in my super liberal state there was hardly any screening for me to own one legally. I don't pretend to have the answers, though. Either way, Jim is fkn hilarious.
I don't have the answers either man. I'm just a random dude and honestly this whole subject is way above myself and probably 99.999% of the people commenting on either sides pay grade.
I just know either them trying to forcefully take guns wouldn't end well them trying to outlaw guns would end well. So my logic is instead of trying to ban guns let's but intense screening on who gets them and try to fix the things that are causing these issue in America so less people want to harm each other in the first place
@@DudeSaysThings I am totally anti-gun, but I agree with your assessment. And I don't think the subject is above your head, not at all. It may be that many people in the comments have thought about the subject longer and have researched statistics and such, but this is something that concerns you directly as a citizen and your opinion on the matter is absolutely valid. The important thing in such discussions is, I think, that you are willing to hear the arguments and really think about them honestly and not just brush them aside (like many, many, many people on the news do).
And thank you for showing me another perspective: I haven't really though about the practical implementation of gun restrictions and what that would cause. I can imagine that some people would risk a civil war about that.
@@DudeSaysThings I think you biggest issue is this notion that somebody is "going to take your guns". In Australia, nobody took our guns, the govt offered to buy them back, no questions asked. They didn't come into our houses and take them. We voluntarily handed them in, because we were so appalled by what happened.
In Australia we do still have guns. There are gun shops (very few) and gun clubs with shooting ranges (again, very few). What changed in 1996 was heavy restrictions on what guns you can have (no auto or semi auto, no pump action, etc) and heavy regulation on storage, ownership and licensing. People in isolated rural areas and farms often have a bolt action rifle or a single action shotgun, fully licensed and securely stored.
The fact that you have to discuss armed security for your schools is enough said right there
The first time I heard him say this I cracked up laughing and even did it as a TikTok 😂😂😂
respect! you laugh even though you may disagree . thats how we should be
As a gun owning Irishman it's very clear that something needs to change in the US.
Can you point it on yourself, Porrik
I take your point about protection from dangerous animals, but in reality what percentage of the US population are at risk of coming into contact with a dangerous wild animal?
The UKs desperate for guns - the Geordies are running amok , the clay pigeons would breed like crazy and the haggis are stripping the Highlands bare
And shotgun weddings have always been a northern tradition.
F'n well said! Lol. Forgot about the haggis,shot all them here 😜👍🇦🇺
Americans need guns because other Americans have guns.
I think I see the problem.
An American arguing that they have guns for dangerous animals when an Australian is saying we have gun control..🤣🤣
Seriously dude guns make people need guns it's a self porrpetuating concept
That's true but guess what we already have them if you took away guns form all the people who willingly give up guns who odds are wouldn't have been a issue anyway. The people with bad intentions still have guns. Then we have alot of gun owners who have guns for those peope who wouldn't willingly give them up without a fight hence why I fear banning guns would cause a actual war. I agree the USA needs to get its shit together but banning guns isn't the answer my friend
Canada has bears too. I have them in my yard regularly. I have zero guns and I'm doing just fine. Fear breeds fear.
This has been one the best reactions from a pro gun person, simply because you were actually able to take his words to heart and understand this was ultimately a comedy routine, with a sprinkle of truth to it, like most comedy is nowadays
This is a skit right? Their is no way you are this dense, even after seeing / hearing JJ destroying the far right gun crap
Do you think Canada doesn't have wilderness ?
Dude you're getting a tough time in these comments and it's really not your fault, you're a product of your environment and circumstances. You only know what you know and what you've seen so it's not surprising that you think the way you do.
On the flip side I'm 46, I'm from the UK. I (sort of) remember when the Dunblane massacre happened here and the aftermath and it was awful. I've never owned, fired or even held a gun in my life. I've never felt the need. I know people who have but it's not for me. I've also never been robbed or mugged or any of my family been the victim of a serious crime but in no way would I ever want a gun in or near my house. The idea that you at 19 feels like they want to own guns, learn martial arts, own big scary dogs so you feel safer is tragic. I feel so bad for you. But it's not just you, your whole nation (more or less) feels the same. I don't have any answers but at some point you have to look at other countries and wonder why are they like that and we're like this? It's far more complex than a UA-cam comment can explain.
Stay safe boss
Lol I think its funny the people are so mad about my thoughts honestly it's made my day laughing at these angry people.
But I really have nothing against the people we been raised in different places seen different things like that one story ive told yall is 1 of many stories i have like ive had a crazy fkin life even compared to most Americans but just over all we had different lives so of course we dont think the same.
I just laugh at the people who genuinely get angry people like you who might disagree but your mad so its different I respect your views because just like me ur a product of ur surroundings. If I was born and raised in the UK with no guns I'd probably think like you to.
You gotta keep in mind ive been raised around guns shot guns really didn't care about guns until that situation happened but yeah just as strange as it for you hearing I don't fear guns is how I feel when I hear people ducking for cover at the sound
I don't claim to have the answers either I just know realistically people wouldn't give up guns so we need a different solution.
Again though don't feel bad for me I'm honestly laughing at these angry people. Part of me wants to make another video and actually go say some outlandish stuff with it to a point where its beyond what i actual think like start saying everyone should have bombs and grenade launchers lol just really mess with people's heads I don't actually think that's smart but omg the comments would be unreal. I'm not going to because It's just not worth it but I'm tempted.
@@DudeSaysThings You're wrong about something. We're not angry at you. We pity you. We feel sorry for you and your whole country. The rampant insecurity and fear you all seem to feel. It's saddening.
lol people who disagree aren't who im talking there's alot of angry people to disagreeing doesn't mean anger ive just seen alot of angry people along with alot of cool people who see things different
Very interesting reaction. However, I dont think vets protecting schools would work as a good advertisement for students to join the armed forces. “Join the army, put your life at risk and come back to no home or support. Don’t worry though, you can get a poorly paid job to monitor a school and possibly get shot at again”. It doesn’t have the same ring as “join the navy, see the world” 😉😂
You argue the point and defend owning guns its quite laughable and pathetic crime in the US stems from the lack of jobs, opportunities, housing etc. That's where things should be sorted and will stop attacks for money. Allowing someone to be shot just for being on someone else's property shows how little your government thinks about the lives of the people.
Then you proven my point. You just admitted the issue is the people not the guns. As far as being shot for being on someone's land that depends. If ur braking in someone's house and get shot I don't feel bad. If ur cutting through the front unfenced yard trying to take a short cut that's different it's all situational
@@DudeSaysThings but guns don't shoot themselves they need people. A smoker can't smoke if they can't get cigarettes. The rest of the world especially in Europe know there are millions of things they know they need and want ever before they think urm I want a gun. I've been clay pigeon shooting and whilst I enjoyed it I didn't think wow I need to own a gun.
@@simonlockyear4653 great.. respect your opinion... just do force it on others? Gun ownership is a choice... either legally or illegally.. ban them? Like drugs, alcohol, vehicles... so a person misuses them and cause harm to others.. so no one should have access or use them?
@@jessmarks2214 Your argument fails when every other Social Democracy bans all or most guns and makes getting hold of one very difficult and expensive. The last thing people think about is "oh I must own a gun" or " I feel unsafe" it actually makes you feel safer, all you need for proof is check out all the UA-cam vids of Americans living abroad.
@@simonlockyear4653 actually it doesnt... look at Australian news sights at the moment... multiple shooting involving criminal hits.. our murder rate is on the rise as is suicide despite this being a justification for stricter laws... also explain how Police can provide protection and security when the nearest police station is a 4-12hrs drive and phone reception is non-existent?
I like the balance you bring to this video. Thanks for this.
I'm Australian but I know that Australian style gun control and reduction would be fiercely resisted in America. Still, fixing gun registration and screening laws should help to reduce some shootings. And YES, every school in America should have security, it has simply come to that point.
There is no easy solution to the gun debate of America. Unfortunately many Americans “need” a gun to defend against, um guns. 🤷♂️
The following quote is straight from the constitution of the United States of America.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
It actually states that individuals have the right to bare arms in a well regulated militia. It does NOT state individuals have open rights to guns.
In essence, it was giving civilians the opportunity to defend the USA, particularly the fringes of the country, against external threats. Before easy communication and transport it was considered a necessity.
So using the constitutional rights argument is actually a 100 percent invalid argument. If you disagree with that, you simply aren't intelligent enough to read or understand your own constitution. In which case, you shouldn't own a gun!
You should read about documents and personal correspondence between the Founding Fathers related to what a "militia" was defined as back then. Essentially, any ablebodied man between a certain age was considered part of the militia, i.e. individuals. SCOTUS confirmed this in several cases (Heller being one of them). It doesn't guarantee ALL guns are not restricted as we'll see in newer gun legislature at the state levels, but it at least frames the mentality behind what a militia was/is.
G'day mate, it's so refreshing to hear an American agree with gun control, it's devastating as an Australian to hear about schools being shot up almost weekly over there and from experience of our gun control system how easy it is to fix. And its the common misconception Australia doesn't have guns, we do, we actually have e more guns now then before 1996 massacre. Yes at the start they had the buy back amnesty, bit that was to destroy all guns in Australia to start from scratch with the new system of licences and registration of guns. And yes we still have automatics like AR15s! You have different category licences and the guns fall Into set categories. I myself have a CAT A, B, C and H and I currently own a ruger American .22WMR, CZ 515 tactical .22WMR, Adler 12g shotgun, Warwick 308 Semi Auto (Australian manufacturered rifle) and a glock 9mm.
Gun control works! And isn't a bann on guns!
It exactly like owning a car, you have to have a license and that car must be registered and insured. (In Australia you must be a gun club member and attended 4 times a year to retain license and that club membership is also your public liability insurence)
Keep licking those boots, comrade.
My opinion on gun ownership/control/safety, is relatively simple.
For the arguement of home defence, you don't need anything that fires more them once (so you don't need semi/full auto rifles) bolt/pump action rifles and shotguns are more then enough for animals and burglars, if you can't hit your target with one bullet, don't shoot, simple. I come from a family who are hunters and woodsman and have been so for generations leading all the way back to our European ancestors AND our Native American ancestors.
If the sale along distribution of semi/full auto guns was outlawed, I don't think anybody would lose anything in terms of gun rights, at the very least, it'd make sure that the casualties FROM shootings would be drastically less.
Guess what, in Australia, we have a lot of dangerous animals too, we still don't need guns...
Bro Jim makes me laugh alone but your reaction laughter is contagious af. Thanks for that brother. Keep up the awesome content
I appreciate your honest reaction, and that you can accept another opinion. Personally think USA is too far gone but better gun control as a start!
We have wild animals in Australia, so dangerous animals aren’t an excuse!!
Contrary to popular belief, you can get guns in the UK... in the countryside they are quite common., there is a Gun Shop 10 minutes walk from where I live. What we have is good gun control, and restrictions on types of weapons allowed... it makes a huge difference... part 2 will answer some of the big arguments that people make why it wouldn't work in the US.
i'm a pro-guns person too. i was raised from the age of 5 being told not to point it at to something alive even if you are %100 sure it's unloaded as a joke. infact not to even reach for it if you are not desperate to use (unless you are in a hunt or obviously defense). but jim makes great points. part 2 is great too, waiting for it. cheers.
Plenty of rural towns or farms in Austrlaia and other countries with strict gun control has guns and requires them in running the farm. Kids grow up around them and taught how to shoot. Difference is the environment and culture, to those people the gun is a tool like a chainsaw or a tractor, not a weapon. They treat it with respect, maintain it well like any other tool and operate it safely.
@@testsubject5990 yeah but it's "too" strict as i've heard bro (i have aussie friends) as i've heard the government can storm into your house in 4 am just to check if you still have the guns and it's and it's in a safe place. i dunno how much is true because i never had the chance to travel there but that's what i've heard. if that's true rules should be more loose at least in farming areas. cheers.
The problem with doing something when 'a kids showing all the signs' is that you'll get an answer like: "We can't do anything if no crime has been committed." Or they put them on meds that make them worse before they get better.
Are there many Grizzile bears in New York City, Chicago, Detroit, Houston, Baltimore, DC, Miami,, or LA?
Here is a really strange thing. In Australia, my local high school has a police officer permanently based. Crime and violence in Brisbane Australia are pretty low and guns are not a problem and yet we can have a police officer on duty. There are more firearms in Australia today than existed in 1998. It is the type of firearm that has changed. A farmer or hunter can easily get the job done with a rimfire bolt action rifle or shotgun limited to holding five shells, they do not need some crappy worn-out milserp that can throw a round 3000 metres.
I call b.s. …. Name the school.
@@tchilds1077 Strathpine State High School. Both my children went there.
The majority of veterans on the streets are there BECAUSE they have PTSD or similar. Screening with invalidate most of them. (Another issue that America gets defensive over: health care. No one should be homeless. Those who are homeless due to health conditions shouldn't be. Healthcare should be paid through faxes and homeless people should have access to emergency accommodation and crisis support workers).
Ask any gun owner and they will tell you they are a responsible gun owner. It's the wrong question. Ask them if they know an irresponsible gun owner. Every one knows an uncle Bobby who likes to shoot at critters on his back fence or sleeps with a loaded .44 under his pillow. The question is how do we keep uncle Bobby away from guns, especially when his ex wife is posting pics of her new husband and step kids on face book and Bobby is six cans deep on a crate of natty lite.
First video of yours I’m watching. Appreciate the open and honest discussion. Tricky subject but one we need to work together to solve.
I have a lot to say but can only remember so much so here goes.
Homeless vets being paid to secure schools is something I support, personally. I don’t know how many we have compared to how many schools we have, nor do I know how much they’d be paid or what it would take to make it happen. I do know that no one in government is discussing it, so it’s kind of a moot point.
No serious person suggests ‘taking your guns’. That is just a hard right talking point. Hillary didn’t want to do it, Obama didn’t want to do it, no one does. Sensible gun control. That’s the thing, sensible. You made a point about someone buying an AK and asked ‘why do you need one?’ and you’re right. However, the second amendment pretty much makes that question irrelevant, along with the Heller decision from SCOTUS.
Last thing I wanted to mention. You had some ‘hun experts should get together and figure it out’ I think you said with regard to some policy. Here’s the thing though, the government isn’t allowed to even study guns/mass shootings. I forget the exact language of the thing that prohibits it, but I believe it’s the department of tobacco, alcohol, and firearm that would handle that, but they’re not allowed to. Since they’re not allowed to study it, we can’t have any real reports on them, or how we could solve it.
On to part two though!
I enjoyed watching you lose a couple of arguments with a pre-recorded video. You earned my Like
Bro you laugh like Heath Ledgers joker and it’s fkn brilliant 😂😂👌🏼
lmaoooo this comment made me laugh then i was like damm hes right