Some of you have raised various issues with aspects of this presentation. I'll address some of them now: 1) The map comes from this source: ourworldindata.org/democracy/#world-maps-of-political-regimes-over-200-years It's creators based the visualization on this data: ourworldindata.org/grapher/political-regime-updated2016.csv The data-scientists behind the project intend to inform, not to propagandize or mislead. They are transparent about how the conclusions presented in their visualization were reached. The visualization was produced by a team of three at the University of Oxford: The economist Esteban Ortiz Ospina, the web developer Jaiden Mispy, and Max Roser, the founder of Our World In Data. 2) This is how the creator of the visualization views democracy and the other government classification criteria: “A democracy is a political system with institutions that allows citizens to express their political preferences, has constraints on the power of the executive, and a guarantee of civil liberties. This entry presents the empirical research on the slow rise of democratic regimes over the last two centuries. Democracies are distinct from autocratic countries in which political preferences cannot be expressed and citizens are not guaranteed civil liberties. Anocracies - a term used often in this entry - are regimes that fall in the middle of the spectrum of autocracies and democracies. Anocracies are countries which are not fully autocratic, but which can also not be called democratic.” 3) The map uses current borders. Anyone that has spent time working in animation/visual design/motion graphics understands that accurately tracking and changing the borders over 200 years would have made this video (and the map it is based on) nearly impossible to create. 4) Yes, we accidentally used the flag of Puerto Rico instead of Cuba...but in all fairness, they are remarkably similar: Cuba: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Cuba Puerto Rico: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico 5) Some areas are gray, indicating that there is "No Data." Gray also means "country in transition," we should have indicated that on the map key. It seems this partially explains why Russia (the former Soviet Union) is gray for much of the animation. I will follow up with Max Roser and offer more clarification here if it is needed. 6) This video is intended to offer a broad historical look at the trends of 200 years of history. By calling out certain key events, we sought to enhance the visualization. From the creator of the map, Max Roser: “It is necessarily controversial to measure a complex concept such as the type of a political regime in a single metric. But since it can be useful to quantify the political regime characteristics so that it is possible to compare political regimes over time and between countries and to study the drivers and consequences of political regime change quantitatively.” Also, from Roser: “The Polity IV measure used here is certainly also questionable - as would every other alternative - but we chose it as my main source because based on our comparison with alternatives and the paper by Munck and Verkuilen (2002) it is the best available option, particularly if a long-run perspective is the main objective. We also have to keep in mind that this measure cannot capture everything that matters for a political regime.” I hope this provides more insight into the project. Our effort is to inform and educate, not mislead or propagandize in any way. -Bryce
The Daily Conversation What about you saying the US is the first consitutionally governed nation? Isn't that biased? There's Britain, who had literally 4 consitutions before the US even came into existence? Also the UK was the first democracy in all the world, being a democracy since Cromwell's death at the least.
MineralOrb Alright, it's a closed Anocracy as only the rich and over 30 (!) were able to vote, and also with restrictions on freedom of thought and religion.
Soo, you're saying that the Netherlands only became a democracy in 1916 and just before the first world war Belgium suddenly and briefly turned into a colony? I have no clue what kind of data these oxford guy's used here, but it's clearly not in any way, shape or form accurate. The Netherlands was turned into the Republic of 7 United Provinces in 1588(!), which was without direct popular rule, but was also FAR from autocratic and more of a oligarchy. Then it instated popular voting rights for every man not on the dole in 1795, changed this system a couple of times, briefly came under French rule in 1801, became a monarchy again in 1813 and subsequently became a constitutional monarchy in 1848(!). So. without further ado I would suggest that you put that data back where you found it and start over. PS: Where in the world did you get the idea that the US was the first country to turn democratic when there were no voting rights for more than 80% of the population. By modern standards it isn't democratic even today without a direct proportional vote.
Guus Janssen the United States was the first *modern* democracy and gave much more power to the people than any other nation in the world at the time, and as time passed more people who lived in America were given more freedoms than most other countries at the time.
The Daily Conversation colonies in mainland Europe? this is the biggest mistake ever. Some of informations aren't right. Shut down the video and do it again, but right this time.
That would still not explain why interwar Czechoslovakia would be blue, as it was an independent country during that period. And there are other issues with the video as well - why do Austria and Hungary have different colours in 1917? Why are the colours of post-anschluss Austria and Germany different? There are some weird things going on in this video.
And they called Eastern Europe a colony when a colony is a nation owned by another person overseas from their master nation if germany owns its neighboor its neighbor isnt a colony.
i mean the map isn't that bad its just that it didn't update depending on the year instead it just showed a modern map leaving out many historical fallen democracies and it also labeled everything that wasn't independent as a "colony"
The best part of this video is "US invades Afghanistan and Iraq installing democratic governments by force." LMFAO. That's the perfect description of the entire vid pretty much.
Judging by these replies I feel like no one is gonna actually understand the point of this comment. Everyone will thumb it up despite not understanding it. 'Tis the fate of any great artist I suppose.
I didn't know that Czechoslovakia was a colony for the whole 20th century (which country exactly colonized us? It is a mystery). In history class at school, we were told that Czechoslovakia before the World War II was one of the greatest democracies in the world. Like seriously, wtf. However, it was an interesting idea to make this video and I'm sure it must have been hard work.
I believe they are referring to the Soviet Union as it literally invaded Czechoslovakia to prevent reformations bringing some freedom to people. They did the same to Hungary as well. So eastern block was definitely colonies of the Soviet Union.
@@epicmatter3512 yes, invasion happened at some point, 1968 for Chechoslovakia to be precise and 1956 for Hungary... and those invasions were the reaction to the ongoing changes in the political environment of these countries at that time. I'm not sure about Hungary, but in Czechoslovakia, even for a brief period of time, there was a definite shift towards a more liberal state (which the Soviet comrades could not "swallow", thus the invasion) .... but anyway - to simplify - yes, Czechoslovakia was a communist country under the direct influence of the Soviet Union (satelite state, not a "colony") and that was since 1948 till 1989 only. The whole time between the wars - 1918 to the beg. of WW2 - Czechoslovakia was one of the most democratic and liberal states in the world.
Exactly what I was thinking watching all this. I first thought Austria-Hungary was, for some reason, considered a colonizer. Later I found out Czechoslovakia wasn't considered at all in this video.
Kelevra Just as there are still those who attempt to cover up the crimes of Hitler, there are those that try to do the same for Stalin. And you're one of them.
1960 France : this Republic where anyone can vote including women is defintely not a democracy 1932 Soviet Union : I don't know boys there is absolutely no data on the period unfortunately
So... Between 1955 and 1967, French Republic was an anocracy ? Simply doesn't make any historical sense. This video is US-centred and totally arbitrary.
@PotatoChips23415 Of course. But it got democracy in 1918, so Czech Republic (Bohemian kingdom before, that was part of Austrian Empire and then Austira-Hungary during this timeline) and Slovakia had democracy. If your fact is valid, then "United Kingdom of Great Britain and NORTHERN Ireland" should be also colony before 1918, because modern maps dont seem to have "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland"(without word "northern") (Ireland got independence after WW1 as well...only northern part stayed).
For those who dont know: Autocracy: a country, state, or society governed by one person with absolute power. Anocracy : or semi-democracy is a form of government that is loosely defined as part democracy and part dictatorship. Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
@@Heafsickle basically it refers to whether the selection is limited to a limited group of people or not. ( In a closed anocracy, competitors are drawn from the elite. In an open anocracy, others also compete)
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Weimar Germany was definitely a full democracy not an "open anocracy". They had free and fair elections, an independent judiciary, and a civilian controlled military. All the more remarkable that Hitler was able to come to power there.
This seems to be extremely arbitrary. Some countries apparently only become democracies with female suffrage, but that doesn't go for the US? And if the US was a democracy at its foundation, many countries that adopted a new constitution in 1848 or close thereafter should also count. In fact, if slave-owning, indian-exterminating, male-centred USA of the 18th century was a democracy, I think you could say the same for several other, and far older republics.
And there is no mention of the first country with equal and universal suffrage and the first female MPs in the world. Apparently at the time Finland was a "colony".
+MrSnertje if you're referring to Switzerland, it clearly changed color to green in 1848 even though it got female suffrage like in the 1970's. And just because there are older republics doesn't mean they were constitutional democracies.
I was just trying to work out what the hell their apparent definition of democracy even was. They've since divulged a bit more information on their thought process and sources, but still... 'A democracy is a political system with institutions that allows citizens to express their political preferences, has constraints on the power of the executive, and a guarantee of civil liberties.' Literally this could apply to ancient Athens: citizens could vote, the executive was constrained (voted for by lot for short terms: a major constraint I'd say) and the state guaranteed certain liberties to its citizens. Was ancient Athens a democracy? I'd say certainly not by any definition that we use in the modern age, if only for the fact that it had a shitton of slaves. Same goes for the US in the 18th century, so what gives? Either democracy starts a hell of a lot later than 1776, or it starts waaaaay earlier.
You know that Czechoslovakia was from 1918 to 1938 democracy and not a colony? In fact it was, from what I heard, the most perfect democracy in the world by that time
@@MMenyan They show that America invented democracy by making it the first even though other republics like Venice and San Marino were already made and though America did not alow some people to vote they still counted it as democracy so if i use that logic countries like Sweden should be democratic before they allowed all people to vote
@@MMenyan No but i would like to point out how they did not bother to change czecslovakia's colour when WW1 ended and when it was controlled by facists
If the UK isn't counted as an earlier democracy as only the rich could vote, then the USA shouldn't either. I must have missed the history lesson where all the slaves and women went and voted.
its because it was a constitutional monarchy at the time, which is a type of anocracy, an open anocracy means everyone can vote. to be a democracy you just need full power in elected officials. why can no one understand this?
@@Gallowglasser yep dosen't matter who gets to vote in democracy, guess to be democracy by your definition everyone of every age has to be able to vote.
Eitan Prian - Ben Zion because it shows the us as the only democracy in the start (which is false) and shows other democratic countries as anochracies or autochracies
I am sorry, but whoever made this video was either out of their mind or just didn't know enough about history/have't used right resources. Czech republic, or at that time the Lands of the Czech crown were never a colony of anyone, these lands were under personal union with Austria the same way as Scotland was under the personal union with England, so I am asking how come is not Scotland painted purple if the Czech lands were? I am also asking how come the Republic of Czechoslovakia is painted purple in the period in between both world wars? Czechoslovakia was a sovereign country, that was actually one of the first European countries to grand voting rights to women since 1918 (earlier than the USA or most of the European countries) it was also the 6th most developed country in the world (ahead were just those countries which exploited other countries by means of colonialism).
Well as many here have said, this video has many issues: 1st and most obvious is map borders use actual borders, 2nd the lack of historical accuracy in many countries, ex: Mexico had his first President in 1824 Guadalupe Victoria, and Constitutions were made while fighting for Independance, and was a Constitutional Democracy till 2nd French intervention and later Porfirio Diaz Dictatorship. 3rd and most important the title "The Evolution of World Democracy" is misleading to say the least, since it starts with 1789 US, it should be instead "Evolution of World Constitutional Democracy". "Democracy" was used notably in "Ancient Greece" (Athens mostly, and althought it has the oldest record, could not be the oldest), then thanks to Alexander the Great helenism was spreed and with it the ideals of Ancient Greece, to which as many Rome took after, Carthage too... Let me explain further: Each democracy has a cenate (or something equivalent, as in other cultures, elder council) and a Representant, that for democracies is elected by a fixed period of time (be it an Archon for Greece or Consul for Rome) that hasnt change much till now days where we vote a "President" which is granted "special powers" while in office, to command armies and take decisions that normally a "cenate" would take too much time to. PD: Yes this seems as US obvious propaganda that by the unlikes none believes, and instead of lecturing people, it misleads them with wrong/ incomplete info, as they say if you are going to do something dont do it half baked.
What a good joke of yours to say that México had democracy since 1824, when in fact we have had several dictatorships of "compatriots" including those of Porfirio Díaz, Victoriano Huerta and the "perfect dictatorship" of the PRI party for 70 damn years. In the best of cases we had a closed Anocracy where only the elite and the asskissers to the party had the opportunity to climb in society and have prosperity. What a shame that in the eyes of the world, true democracy just entered México as soon as the 21st century arrived.
Петр Врангель Пипец стереотипы у тебя, если один англоязычный канал делает какую-то хуйню, это же не значит что ВСЕ АМЕРИКАНЦЫ ТУПЫЕЕ! Есть тонна американских каналов с очень хорошей и непредвзятой подробной историей, правильной картой и так далее. Тот же Emperor Tigerstar делает неплохие карты.
@@ТатьянаКудряшова-о2м Well that still makes it a non-democracy. Not being able to express communist or zionist ideas and viewpoints is still controlling free speech.
@@Harrassmus In america you not able to express idea of White supremacy without being claimed "rasist". Is this makes America non-democratic? Oopsie))))
@@danielechassendague3536 Y duro de 1916 hasta el golpe del 30' seguido de períodos que difícilmente se pueden llamar democráticos (Decada Infame y 2do y 1er gobierno de Perón)
1820: Spain and Portugal start a constitutional monarchy = "Closed anochracy" 1824: Brazil starts a constitutional monarchy, w/ even more voting rights = "Autochracy" ...CRITERIA?
@@antoniofrancis1736 Actually for me it was weird that during 1945~1964 it's saying it was not a democracy in Brazil. I can understand during 1989~1930 as we had "Café-com-Leite" as it was not a real democracy, but as far as I know, from 1945 to 64 "anyone" could vote, including some populist and controversial Jânio Quadros.So, again: Criteria?
@@antoniofrancis1736 The Moderator power was not like that, not to mention that it was not only the rich who could vote. if you had an average of 500-800 Kings you could come back. Not to mention that the first dictatorships and coups in Brazil started with the end of the parliamentary Constitutional monarchy
@@abacaxi4713 the republic started whit A coup, put by two dictators, then there was another coup, that they made them leave and the Farmers who were in favor of slavery began to change in power. Then there was ANOTHER COUP that this time put a Fascist Dictatorship in power. So this dictator gives a blow to stay in power, and finally he leaves with a coup. The answer of Democracy in Brazil is a bit obvious, With the Monarchy those who had more than 500 kings (Little thing at the time), could vote, and never had a dictatorship or coup. The republic started with a coup, it just brought more dictatorships and coups
Just to point it out, you put argentina as a democracy during 1981, but it was under a military dictatorship at the time, though its not rare that you put it that way, because the dictatorship was funded by the CIA Thanks USA!
This map is all wrong. For some reason Czechoslovakia is a "colony" until 1991. You can't even count it as a puppet state of the Soviet Union because it was established before the Soviet Union even existed...
Do you actualy know something about it? Im not saying that it was good, but it worked. Best guverment right now is democracy, but is far from perfect. Perfect would be utopian socialism, but it will never work because people are not perfect.
Yes. Actually I do know something about it. Under Stalin Russia was a genocidal dictatorship. Which is why I don't understand the whole 'no data' thing.
You are all lacking in knowledge. There is plenty of information about the USSR during Stalin Era. Plus it wasn't a genocidal dictatorship, it was a Soviet democracy. You lack critical thinking if you think such. Read Grover Furr books on the subject, he debunks plp like Robert Conquest - footnote by footnote and other propagandaists.
It is a democratic nation, it is the oldest democracy that remained (clearly) a democracy. A colony is an entity that is governed by another foreign land that tends not to give the same rights to the colonial subjects, and tends to install a semi-autonomous (usually autocratic) leader in charge. There is a clear distinction between the governments of a nation and the ruling authority over a colony.
@@okano.638 The Roman Empire was never a democracy, democracy means everyone votes on the decisions on hand (which is what happened in Athens), while I think you're confusing the imperial period with the republican you're still wrong on that.
The map is REALLY inaccurate most of the time, like, it shows Poland's borders from 1945 (from communist times) in 1918 (when Poland gained independence)
Czecho-Slovakia was not considered a colony, It was a satelite state created by the soviets. It was also a democracy during ww2 after it got its independance.
Actually, until November 1889, Brazil was a representative parliamentary constitutional monarchy. Then it turned into a tyrannical military dictatorial republic. And in 1895, into an anti-black oligarchic republic with fraudulent elections that only rich land owners candidates from two states were "elected" as presidents.
Não é atoa que muitos consideram os americanos burros, mesmo os que estudaram nas melhores universidades, veja só esse mapa, teoricamente feito pelos melhores.
Fraudes eleitorais tbm aconteciam na monarquia, e negros não podiam participar, o Monarca detinha poderes autocraticos devido o poder moderador, e o parlamento tinha pouco poder real, podendo ser dissolvido a qualquer momento, assim como foi dissolveido mais de 30 vezes, mostrando a pouca coesão politica e pouca estabildade do Império.
This is a great American video for American audiences, it shows exactly what they want to see. It's all bull**** though, it's so wrong on so many levels.
Eduarda Gomes in the description, it was made by an english university, why would they pander to USA? Also in 1800 it shows uk as anocracy, and owner of many colonies., so if they can show the state of their own country as undemocratic, they can be objective about others
My country Uruguay, on that map, it appears as a democracy in 1950, in my opinion it is a mistake, because in 1899, the first constitutional president elected by the citizens was elected, Uruguay was the first country to approve the female vote, being A democracy as consolidated as the United States, which on that map, from the beginning appears in green.
I'm not sure why USA is considered democracy in 1816 when most people couldn't vote, and slavery was still legal. I'd be happy classifying the early US as a semi-democratic regime that gradually transitioned into a fully fledged democracy. That said, I love this video, very well made
I can tell you why. You see the world in 1816 through your 2022 lenses. Nowadays, we wouldn’t consider the democracies in Ancient Greece democracies either because you needed to be a free *man* , a citizen of that city-state, and above the age of military service. Only 1/4 of all residents qualified as residents. Still, it is and was a huge deal. Lots of things have changed between 1816 and 2022 and more things will change in the future. That’s the point of a democracy.
@@VieleGuteFahrer Oh I don't disagree with you, standards have certainly changed. I'm just saying that there are different forms of democracy depending on how strong it is, and we need to distinguish between them using different terminology. The early US and modern US are both, in very broad terms, "democracies", but they are two very different types
@@maxdavis7722 The Queen still has some power. She can dismiss a prime minister, dissolve the parliament, declare war and peace, open the parliament, veto bills, appoint ministers to the crown, grant royal pardon and she's the commander-in-chief. All that without ever being elected by anyone. Monarchs used to use these rights way more in the past, up until the 1830s. The U.S. constitution states that "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." The Congress gets elected by the people. and that "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected […]". Also elected by the people. The first presidential election took place from 1788 to 1789, before the constitution took effect. Edit: The uploader linked the source and the UK is listed as one of the countries with the oldest democracies.
So this video starts when the US became a democracy while the first democracies formed in Greece 2300 years before. This video uses modern borders to show countries from 200 years ago. No country is a real domocracy (expecially usa) because if you don't have money you are going nowhere Edit: I forgot all the democratic city states formed in northern Italy from 1100 to 1500
@Elle Poop wrong, its a Federal Representative Republic and not a democracy at all, and never has been, its called a Democracy due to people being lazy and unlearned about what America is. Civics 101 take it sometime.
BS. The author explicitly says "Modern Government" neither of the two you mentioned would be considered as "Modern" as the notion of an Ethnic homogenous state based on nation was not prevalent back then. No country is a real democracy, what we have is "bourgeois democracy".
A true democracy is when everyone in a population votes on literally everything. A civics 101 class will also tell you it only works for small, and dense populations
@@shrek1140 You get caught up in the little things buddy...to normal people, democracy is synonymous with voting...whether you get a representative or do it directly,nobody gives a damn...
So in order to get free middle east oil, the U.S spends 2.4 trillion dollars to wage war for oil that they could buy cheaper from Canada or just use there own vast reserves? Why would they spend more money on the war then the oil is worth? If your right then 100% of that oil goes straight to the U.S correct? You can prove this? One more question, whats 2+2 equal? Cause your math skills suck!
@@Atlas-uz4vtits not about the oil,but competition. The us is stuck in a "beat country of the world" mentality that they must eliminate competition in oil(the most demanded thing in the world right now). If the us didnt attack those countries, they would have made the dollar obsolete in the oil business...
Actually, the whole oil thing was from gulf war in the '90s because we defended Kuwait from Iraqis and somewhere in the middle we decided we wanted the secure as much of the oil we can. So that whole oil meme comes from that.
Bruv the us does not have enough oil to export it. The us currently imports most of its oil from canada. Everything in the middle east after the gulf war was due to 9/11. We were livid and willing to destroy anything that was remotely responsible עבדיהו בן חכמה
It was a good concept, but not as well executed as I had hoped. There were a lot of parts that were left out, and using modern borders doesn't work. There are plenty of animated maps that are more accurate. For example, Korea wasn't a "colony" in the 19th century (it was a colony of Imperial Japan from 1910 to 1945), nor was it divided until 1945 either. I see in the comments there were many similar cases.
There was also a huge double standart with the US being shown as full democracy with slavery and without women sufrage while other countries only got the democracy when female sufrage was allowed like wtf?
Without the founding in 1776, there is no foundation to eventually free the slaves. We could of just became a monarchy, that form of government has been rather successful, not.
The map uses current borders, we have to deal with that. Now, if you consider Germany the successor state to FRG only, then OK "Germany" was democratic. But imagine you've suffered from GDR's police state for decades, and now you see a joyful green colour at that very place and moment... This can't be. It makes way more sense to say "Germany was cut in two & the halves had vastly different systems => I can't pick a single colour for the whole => Grey". In doubt, grey would be the answer anyhow ; but here there is no doubt imho : this grey is the way to solve an ambiguity, an impossibility.
yes thure, iran for example is not a friend of Usa but this country have free election, Venezuela dont sale is petroil for low price at Usa and this country become a anonarchy, the same for Turkey his president become more strong this country become more power and strong and for usa is not anymore a democray.
So Allende is elected president in Chile and he became a dictator? History wasn`t that way, we had a democracy until 1973 when Pinochet and the military forces bombarded the palace of goverment and tortured thousands of people until 1990. Oh I forgot to mention it, Nixon boicoted the economy between 1970-1973 and established Pinochet as the cruel dictator that he was. Please do the video as the history has taught us.
People: *elect congress* Congress: *damn that was easy, well time for our plans* *passes laws abolishing half our rights* People: um, we don't approve Congress: *woah is this treason?*
@@escopiliatese3623 Beside the fact it takes no consideration of others forms of governaments like parlamentary monarchy (UK, Spain, Canada and most of northern Europe) constitutional monarchy (Monaco, Marocco and other states of arabic peninsula) parlamentary republic (Italy, Germany and most of the Balkan states) dual executive republic (France, most of eastern Europe and - de iure - Russia) presidential republic (USA and basically all south America) aristocratic republic (or whatever was the Holy Roman Empire) ancient Rome _Res Publica_ (which is pointless to categorize with modern standard of politics) plus every other system known to man Beside THAT it's based on the assumption of a form of governaments can be a democracy AND dictatorship at the same time. Which is ridiculous since historical evidence clearly shows the opposit. Plus it denies the existance of multiple types of democracy like direct democracy (ancient greece) representative democracy (basically every modern states worthy of this name since both monarchies and republics can rule like that) social democracy (kind of the Third Way but not really) liberal democracy (USA before Trump) federal democracy (also USA, in a certain way the UE) social liberalism (the actual Third Way if communism was still a thing but it's not) And that without considering how the terms are used in the video (poorly)
India was a democracy between 1947 and 1950. From the day 1 of our independence we have been a democracy. In 1950 we just shifted to a universal adult franchise. It that is the definition of democracy... Universal adult franchise.. then no country was a democracy before world war 1...
@@nikitaermolaev709 get over yourself and your anti-western views. you clearly have a false sense of the understanding of what democracy is. it doesn't mean the people have all aspects of control over every minut detail of how the country is run. Nor is that a preferable situation.
@@-sanchousgoblin357 I'm pretty sure the people who gathered this data weren't on the US government's payroll. They tried to collect accurate data - Of course their proccess inevitably had biases, as it would with anyone. But It's not like it was deliberate.
I'm really confused as to the definition of democracy in this video. I'll use the UK as an example as it's the country I know best. Since 1215 parliament had had powers over taxation, so this is the point at which complete rule by one person stops. The Tudors saw the rise of the house of commons made up of representatives from each county. Whilst not democratic these were kind of elected but from the gentry. From around the late Stuart time all land owning males had the right to vote for there representatives. 1867 all males and 1918 both men and women had the vote. So depending on how democratic a nation had to be to count Britain should either be a democracy from the start or at one of these two points. It seems slightly odd that a nation with slavery and no votes for women counts as democratic. Please correct me on any dates I got wrong.
James Doody democracy in this video means a multi body legislature with a president and judiciary which are all elected and can do what they want without approval of the citizens. Oh wait the judiciary isn't even elected lol. AND IT RULES FOR LIFE
Parthian Capitalist It clearly doesn’t as the UK becomes a democracy later in the video despite no constitutional change having occurred in the UK at the time is supposedly becomes democratic- we still have no president. The video is another bs pro- US lie....
According to this map the Netherlands was a "closed anarchy" until the first world war. That can not be true since it was a constitutional democracy since 1848. That became the basis for the democratic nowadays. I like the map and the idea. Only I think it is very important to get it right because otherwise people get a twisted view on different counties.
Nah we’re a democracy especially by the broad standards of this video that doesn’t distinguish between republics and constructional monarchies and democracy.
Kafkacracy? The US is a Federalist Republic technically, and if "Democracy" is defined as majority rule ove minority than that is what the US was and has been trying hard not to be since its founding, since the late 60s we are finally making more progress toward our ideals but there is still alot of complex messed up stuff and opressions.
not just because you dislike ok hate Trump does not change the style of government, it would if Trump simply declared himself pres for life, which would not be long.
Trying to compile all the various errors (by no means is this an exhaustive list) 1. Perhaps most alarming of all is that the map uses modern day borders, even going back to the early 19th century. This makes the map infinitely more confusing than it needs to be, and insanely innacurate. 2. Calling the US a democracy in the 1800s would be a stretch. Even ignoring Jim Crow, until the 1820s, only white men who owned property could vote. 3. No data for the USSR, even under Stalin. It obviously would be considered an autocracy for basically all of its existence. 4. Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia are somehow labled "open anocracy" even though it was clearly a brutal regime run by the white minority. 5. Many places labled colonies when they weren't. For some reason, most of Africa before the Scramble is labled as being a "colony" when that was factually untrue. Czechoslovakia is labled as being a colony, along with parts of the USSR and Yugoslavia (I suspect this is to comply with the rule of having to go by modern borders). 6. India was not a democracy for the entirety of its independence. From 1975-77, during "the Emergency," Indira Gandhi had emergency and near-dictatorial powers.
Wtf? Argentina: 1816-1916 closed-open anocracy 1916-1930 democracy 1930 autocracy 1931-1943 open anocracy 1943-1945 autocracy 1945-1955 democracy 1955-1976 open anocracy 1976-1983 autocracy 1983- present day . democracy USA GREEN all the video???
@@godemperadorlgabrielaquino Fue elegido democráticamente, entonces es una democracia. El gobierno de macri aunque le digan dictadura es una democracia también, porque fue elegido por el pueblo, sin golpes de estado, fraude electoral, etc. Democracia: del griego demos(pueblo) kratos(poder, gobierno). Saludos
Nice try, but the creators clearly missed the time and the resources to make it a relevant and usefull source of knowladge. This task would be fitting to a Uniersity faculty, and still, it would take months to comlete.
Republic is from the Latin words res publica =common affairs , the Roman style democracy (before the imperial era). Democracy is from the Greek word Democratia= people's rule, the Athenian democracy. These two democratic systems was different but nowadays there is no difference between those two terms.
@@Karifi certeza? veja Noruega, Suécia e Japão só como exemplos de pura "autocracia" e na época da monarquia brasileira era bastante democrática no contexto daquela época
As someone from Northern Ireland, cool to find out we existed as a separate nation 200 years ago. Apparently we were a democracy but Southern Ireland was a colony. It wasn't a colony. All of Ireland was in the UK, there was no Northern Ireland. All of us were in the same nation as Scotland England and Wales. The UK. Which was a democracy.
@@ottomanempire3725 Eh.. no. Are you ignorant lmao. England occupied Ireland where-as Scotland willingly entered a union with England. Pretty large difference and your metaphor is bad.
The Brazil Empire (1822-1889) wasn't a autocracy, It had constitution that guaranteed the civil liberties, and after 1847 we adopted the paralamentarism a way to people express their political preferences.
Mind explaining? Since from the looks of it it seems pretty much how it is today. The Emperor acted just a branch of the government hardly total control. So how is it different? No government is exactly alike, but it doesn't mean it is any less democratic. And it was because the imperial family was weak, the empire eventually fell. Along with a few other reasons.
The system was quite interesting, there it is necessary to read about it and it looked far from how it is considered to be in the west. That is why this system is more often called the dictatorship of the proletariat than authoritarianism.
Adwait Top tens no creo....mas bien con ese gobierno neoliberal, la glasnot de gorbachov no sirivio de nada...aun sigue reprimiendo la libertad de expresion. y por cierto, con esas crisis gracias a yeltsin, sera dificil ser las urss otra vez
@@GevioneXChannel dictatorship of the proletariat is a fancy way of saying I am the proletariat I will look out for you so trust me with all powers, stalin's soviet union was so blatantly an autocracy
there are a lot of errors in this animation, you cannot define government of a nation of that nation didnt exist in a timeframe. also there are countries dpeicted as democratic but their gobernments were not really democratic NOce try, but i think a presentation like this would require a deeper search on what happened on each contry at a certain timeframe. For example, someone could argue that a democracy is not really a democracy if more than a half of their population (women) is not allowed to vote. So the real democracy for USA starts in the 20th century
Its funny how in Argentina you put Perons presidencyas a dictatorship (while there still was a democracy), and the dictatorship that came right after as an "closed anocracy". Think should be the other way around.
I live in former soviet republic and I can confirm that it's true. Everything was descided in Moscow. They even took tribute from our income. Even russian language was peioritized over national. If you come to Lithuania and try to talk to any random person older than 30 in russian he will understand and reply, he might not to speek in lithuanian but he definately will speak in russian. Even most of old papers and documents was either in russian or in russian and lithuanian. So taxes was going to Moscow, local goverment was compleate pupets of moscow without any right to oppose, and local language was neglected in favour of russian. So yes we were 100% colony.
I think, that many former sowiet citizen will confirm, that the republics were "colonies". As Tamo Lamo already mentioned, all the decisions were made in Moscow. That was the reason, why the overall system was so fragile and lead to the fall of the soviet union in the early 90's.
@@tamolamo4698 The definition of colonies is a little wrong. It’s probably just the regions of one country, this is especially noticeable in terms of the standard of living, since you had it higher than in Russia
US would be a closed anocracy at least until 1828 and an open anocracy at least from 1860-71, but you could argue expanding that to as early 1855. Belarus, Ukraine, the Caucasus & most of Central Asia shouldn't be listed as Russian colonies after 1917, especially in the period of 1917-22 when many of those countries were briefly independent from the USSR & didn't have a Russian military presence. Uzbekistan & Turkmenistan (albeit with very different borders) would be exceptions to this until around 1922. Czechoslovakia shouldn't be listed as a colony, nor should Croatia, Macedonia & Slovenia. If they're going to list those as "colonies", it doesn't make sense to list North Korea as an autocracy (esp. from 1945-72), since it seems like it would've met the same democratic standards as other Soviet bloc countries and has a Soviet military presence for a time. I'm not saying that it should've been listed as a colony, but if we were to go by your sources standards, it wouldn't make sense not to list it as one.
@@rolanddeschain9880 Overall this video has a big problem with what it defines at democracy. Somehow France from the 60's isn't a democracy despite being billion times more democractic than 19th century USA.
Wrong, San Marino is the oldest constitutionally-governed nation in the world. You know, that micro-state in the middle of Italy, everyone knows about San Marino, it is also one of the oldest countries in the world, in case you were wondering.
It’s amusing to watch people get so angry because the USA accomplished something profound in 1776, but they try to downplay it as no big deal. So they yell “evil American propaganda” from their computers and try to feel better about their own nations that likely fall far below America’s economic and military might. Envy is easy to spot.
Some of you have raised various issues with aspects of this presentation. I'll address some of them now:
1) The map comes from this source: ourworldindata.org/democracy/#world-maps-of-political-regimes-over-200-years
It's creators based the visualization on this data: ourworldindata.org/grapher/political-regime-updated2016.csv
The data-scientists behind the project intend to inform, not to propagandize or mislead. They are transparent about how the conclusions presented in their visualization were reached.
The visualization was produced by a team of three at the University of Oxford: The economist Esteban Ortiz Ospina, the web developer Jaiden Mispy, and Max Roser, the founder of Our World In Data.
2) This is how the creator of the visualization views democracy and the other government classification criteria: “A democracy is a political system with institutions that allows citizens to express their political preferences, has constraints on the power of the executive, and a guarantee of civil liberties.
This entry presents the empirical research on the slow rise of democratic regimes over the last two centuries.
Democracies are distinct from autocratic countries in which political preferences cannot be expressed and citizens are not guaranteed civil liberties. Anocracies - a term used often in this entry - are regimes that fall in the middle of the spectrum of autocracies and democracies. Anocracies are countries which are not fully autocratic, but which can also not be called democratic.”
3) The map uses current borders. Anyone that has spent time working in animation/visual design/motion graphics understands that accurately tracking and changing the borders over 200 years would have made this video (and the map it is based on) nearly impossible to create.
4) Yes, we accidentally used the flag of Puerto Rico instead of Cuba...but in all fairness, they are remarkably similar:
Cuba: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Cuba
Puerto Rico: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico
5) Some areas are gray, indicating that there is "No Data." Gray also means "country in transition," we should have indicated that on the map key. It seems this partially explains why Russia (the former Soviet Union) is gray for much of the animation. I will follow up with Max Roser and offer more clarification here if it is needed.
6) This video is intended to offer a broad historical look at the trends of 200 years of history. By calling out certain key events, we sought to enhance the visualization.
From the creator of the map, Max Roser: “It is necessarily controversial to measure a complex concept such as the type of a political regime in a single metric. But since it can be useful to quantify the political regime characteristics so that it is possible to compare political regimes over time and between countries and to study the drivers and consequences of political regime change quantitatively.”
Also, from Roser: “The Polity IV measure used here is certainly also questionable - as would every other alternative - but we chose it as my main source because based on our comparison with alternatives and the paper by Munck and Verkuilen (2002) it is the best available option, particularly if a long-run perspective is the main objective.
We also have to keep in mind that this measure cannot capture everything that matters for a political regime.”
I hope this provides more insight into the project. Our effort is to inform and educate, not mislead or propagandize in any way.
-Bryce
The Daily Conversation What about you saying the US is the first consitutionally governed nation? Isn't that biased? There's Britain, who had literally 4 consitutions before the US even came into existence? Also the UK was the first democracy in all the world, being a democracy since Cromwell's death at the least.
MineralOrb Alright, it's a closed Anocracy as only the rich and over 30 (!) were able to vote, and also with restrictions on freedom of thought and religion.
Soo, you're saying that the Netherlands only became a democracy in 1916 and just before the first world war Belgium suddenly and briefly turned into a colony? I have no clue what kind of data these oxford guy's used here, but it's clearly not in any way, shape or form accurate. The Netherlands was turned into the Republic of 7 United Provinces in 1588(!), which was without direct popular rule, but was also FAR from autocratic and more of a oligarchy. Then it instated popular voting rights for every man not on the dole in 1795, changed this system a couple of times, briefly came under French rule in 1801, became a monarchy again in 1813 and subsequently became a constitutional monarchy in 1848(!). So. without further ado I would suggest that you put that data back where you found it and start over.
PS: Where in the world did you get the idea that the US was the first country to turn democratic when there were no voting rights for more than 80% of the population. By modern standards it isn't democratic even today without a direct proportional vote.
Guus Janssen the United States was the first *modern* democracy and gave much more power to the people than any other nation in the world at the time, and as time passed more people who lived in America were given more freedoms than most other countries at the time.
The Daily Conversation colonies in mainland Europe? this is the biggest mistake ever. Some of informations aren't right. Shut down the video and do it again, but right this time.
Problem is the map is made of modern borders which is confusing
Example: WWI Begins and the Ottomans have the same borders as turkey... And apparently, Syria's a colony already!
I believe colonies also mean "occupied" - as such, Syria was apart the Ottoman Empire at the time.
Good point
That would still not explain why interwar Czechoslovakia would be blue, as it was an independent country during that period. And there are other issues with the video as well - why do Austria and Hungary have different colours in 1917? Why are the colours of post-anschluss Austria and Germany different? There are some weird things going on in this video.
And they called Eastern Europe a colony when a colony is a nation owned by another person overseas from their master nation if germany owns its neighboor its neighbor isnt a colony.
How countries turned democratic over the last 200 years.
Ancient Greece:
Heyo
Typical yanks
@@ThobiasTutorials hey lamin xD
By this video's definition, Greece would not have been a democracy. Power was not avaliable to everyone and only men could vote
@@ajavisk I guess so. Though, there are still ideological differences between direct democracy and representative democracy.
1900
U.S: DEMOCRACY!
Black person: Can I just drink a water near you guys?
U.S: NO!
Hahaha... That's right..!
That has nothing to do with the fact, that the government system is democracy.
Racism can be (and was/is) an issue in democracies.
@@vincesimon8115 fodase meu irmao
@@vincesimon8115 nice democracy 🙈
Vince Simon
But particularly in America where minorities are suppressed by restrictive voting laws and gerrymandering
This map has so many errors that I'm speechless.
i mean the map isn't that bad its just that it didn't update depending on the year instead it just showed a modern map leaving out many historical fallen democracies and it also labeled everything that wasn't independent as a "colony"
It has not errors lmao
@@Drannn54 yes it does
@@Drannn54 I spotted at least 5 clear errors on this map without even looking the comments. You need to study before say anything
@@aminadoce THE TITLE SAYS THAT COUNTRIES ON THIS MAP ARE REPRESENTED BY TODAY'S STANDARDS AND TELL ME WHICH ERRORS YOU HAVE SPOTTED?!
Ahh yes, my favourite government system
*COLONY*
Lmfao!
Europe now can never colonize any other countries
The Sports Guy
Yeah but it wasn’t Europe now was it?
@@thesportsguy3088 *Sad European noises*
Fordan Ustinee but how it was factually!
The best part of this video is "US invades Afghanistan and Iraq installing democratic governments by force." LMFAO. That's the perfect description of the entire vid pretty much.
Yeah
Joshua Fleming plz don’t make this a political debate
Kijana Moja no but this comment was a joke I was trying to shut down any chance of an argument
Does Iraq have a parliament or a dictator right now?
Judging by these replies I feel like no one is gonna actually understand the point of this comment. Everyone will thumb it up despite not understanding it. 'Tis the fate of any great artist I suppose.
2:23
“Cuba gains independence from the US”
*Shows puertorican flag*
Murka
A simple Google search would have shown the difference of flags.
They’re the same
@@husted5488 no they’re not, Cuba’s flag is blue stripes with a red triangle.
If only Puerto Rico was independent
I didn't know that Czechoslovakia was a colony for the whole 20th century (which country exactly colonized us? It is a mystery). In history class at school, we were told that Czechoslovakia before the World War II was one of the greatest democracies in the world. Like seriously, wtf.
However, it was an interesting idea to make this video and I'm sure it must have been hard work.
I believe they are referring to the Soviet Union as it literally invaded Czechoslovakia to prevent reformations bringing some freedom to people. They did the same to Hungary as well. So eastern block was definitely colonies of the Soviet Union.
@@epicmatter3512 From 1968, sure. But not for the whole century.
@@epicmatter3512 yes, invasion happened at some point, 1968 for Chechoslovakia to be precise and 1956 for Hungary... and those invasions were the reaction to the ongoing changes in the political environment of these countries at that time. I'm not sure about Hungary, but in Czechoslovakia, even for a brief period of time, there was a definite shift towards a more liberal state (which the Soviet comrades could not "swallow", thus the invasion) .... but anyway - to simplify - yes, Czechoslovakia was a communist country under the direct influence of the Soviet Union (satelite state, not a "colony") and that was since 1948 till 1989 only. The whole time between the wars - 1918 to the beg. of WW2 - Czechoslovakia was one of the most democratic and liberal states in the world.
Exactly what I was thinking watching all this. I first thought Austria-Hungary was, for some reason, considered a colonizer. Later I found out Czechoslovakia wasn't considered at all in this video.
I'm Brazilian, but even on Brazilian school we learn that you guys and Poland were pretty democratic before German invasion. This map is hella weird.
How are Soviet states no data
Monkeysgame because no one care about them
Monkeysgame because no brainers I think
Eitan Prian - Ben Zion i care
snipst well so you are 0.05% of the population... Still no one care.
Rad 303 *They where not powerfull as America, just a sligthly more influent but not powerfull.*
How the hell can you manage 'no data' on Stalin's soviet union?
Awesome Avenger read what the author said in the comment section.
because stalinism is too brilliant of an ideology and dont you try to rant to me about all those myths you wrote above
Kelevra Just as there are still those who attempt to cover up the crimes of Hitler, there are those that try to do the same for Stalin. And you're one of them.
Awesome Avenger where a you from you idiot? and why you think you know about USSR more than Russian
Silver hornet The question is why do you think you know more about the USSR than those who suffered under it?
1960 France : this Republic where anyone can vote including women is defintely not a democracy
1932 Soviet Union : I don't know boys there is absolutely no data on the period unfortunately
Czechoslovakia:
-formed in 1918 as a fully democratic country where even women could vote
-the video still puts it as a "colony?"
And they say "no data" for French Guyana when it's actually a French department...
That was when france stopped cooperating with the USA, no? Pure American Propaganda
1816: Italy, a whole united nation with current borders, is a colony. The mysterious colonisers have done an excellent job at staying mysterious
@@reezlaw but Italy united in 1861
"World Democracy" Begins when the US was founded. Sure...
I guess representative democracy, not direct
Modern democracy yes, not old unsustainable "direct" democracy
@@Ignacio.Romero Looks at the Republic of Venice... Lasted for almost a 1000 years... Yes usustainable...
@@tuukkafadjukoff7467 Ever heard of the dux?
@@Ignacio.Romero It is a democratically elected office... Also didn't have total power over the goverment?
too many historical errors, I feel glad to see so many people perceiveing it... ( 10 years ago most people would believe in this map)
Americans maybe.
The map is mostly correct. Pretty difficult undertaking.
@@reezlaw The map is mostly correct.
Guys you know this is the modern map?
@@jaredsilvers2782 wow ur comment only 34 minutes away from mine
So... Between 1955 and 1967, French Republic was an anocracy ? Simply doesn't make any historical sense. This video is US-centred and totally arbitrary.
just look all the arbitrariness in SouthAmerica: 7:26 ALLENDE autocracy!?!?!?!
only landed elites were allowed to vote back then
Also Czechoslovakia as colony??....lol
Channon3 Czechoslovakia was listed as a colony due to the fact that modern maps don't seem to have czechoslovakia.
@PotatoChips23415 Of course. But it got democracy in 1918, so Czech Republic (Bohemian kingdom before, that was part of Austrian Empire and then Austira-Hungary during this timeline) and Slovakia had democracy. If your fact is valid, then "United Kingdom of Great Britain and NORTHERN Ireland" should be also colony before 1918, because modern maps dont seem to have "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland"(without word "northern") (Ireland got independence after WW1 as well...only northern part stayed).
"Democratic government established by US invasion"
You've saved my day with this one 😂
This is true, but a democratic government serving us interests :’)
@Just some Austrian kid that won't cause any wars what a cute kid
@Just some Austrian kid that won't cause any wars Hey, lil' buddy!
That was a good thing and is a shame it didint last
@@crkcrk702 democratic but if they chose a "bad" president they get invaded or a military cue happens
For those who dont know:
Autocracy: a country, state, or society governed by one person with absolute power.
Anocracy : or semi-democracy is a form of government that is loosely defined as part democracy and part dictatorship.
Democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
Whats the differebce between open anocracy and closed anocracy?
@@Heafsickle basically it refers to whether the selection is limited to a limited group of people or not. ( In a closed anocracy, competitors are drawn from the elite. In an open anocracy, others also compete)
Examples :3
Autocracy; 🇰🇵,
Anocracy; 🇧🇾, 🇸🇦
Democracy; 🇺🇸, 🇨🇦, 🇮🇳, 🇯🇵,🇫🇷,🇩🇪,🇧🇼, 🇿🇦
There's more democracies (thankfully)
(I would've added more, but that would be biased)
@@Heafsickle Both are between democracy and dictatorship. Open anocracy is more democratic leaning and closed anocracy is more dictatorship leaning
How was finland partly dictatorship in 1930"s😂
Just realized that my country (Czech republic) was until 1991 a colony XDDD I wonder whose
Colony of Chechoslovakia lol.
It was technically controlled by the Soviet Union
@@movedaccount9958 Yes, but I don't think it's the reason Czech republic and Slovakia are colonies on this map.
yeah it technically was but so was poland and its not a colony
A satellite is different from a colony
Weimar Germany was definitely a full democracy not an "open anocracy". They had free and fair elections, an independent judiciary, and a civilian controlled military. All the more remarkable that Hitler was able to come to power there.
Germany Muslim shara
It was a good democracy
But nobody wanted it
Fox 400 Fox 400 stfu
@@FoxFox-lx3cv ?
@@FoxFox-lx3cv
German Muslim Cher??? Oh she would be hot!!!
Death to bigotry world-wide finally and forever!
This seems to be extremely arbitrary. Some countries apparently only become democracies with female suffrage, but that doesn't go for the US? And if the US was a democracy at its foundation, many countries that adopted a new constitution in 1848 or close thereafter should also count. In fact, if slave-owning, indian-exterminating, male-centred USA of the 18th century was a democracy, I think you could say the same for several other, and far older republics.
I don't think the details of each country matter on a big map like this. Just the general trends. Look at the bottom graph that is the point.
+Andy Davies Of course each country matters, especially since all the things that makes a democracy, were created in other countries and not the US.
And there is no mention of the first country with equal and universal suffrage and the first female MPs in the world. Apparently at the time Finland was a "colony".
+MrSnertje if you're referring to Switzerland, it clearly changed color to green in 1848 even though it got female suffrage like in the 1970's. And just because there are older republics doesn't mean they were constitutional democracies.
I was just trying to work out what the hell their apparent definition of democracy even was. They've since divulged a bit more information on their thought process and sources, but still... 'A democracy is a political system with institutions that allows citizens to express their political preferences, has constraints on the power of the executive, and a guarantee of civil liberties.' Literally this could apply to ancient Athens: citizens could vote, the executive was constrained (voted for by lot for short terms: a major constraint I'd say) and the state guaranteed certain liberties to its citizens. Was ancient Athens a democracy? I'd say certainly not by any definition that we use in the modern age, if only for the fact that it had a shitton of slaves. Same goes for the US in the 18th century, so what gives? Either democracy starts a hell of a lot later than 1776, or it starts waaaaay earlier.
You know that Czechoslovakia was from 1918 to 1938 democracy and not a colony? In fact it was, from what I heard, the most perfect democracy in the world by that time
Maybe not the most perfect democracy, but certainly the only democracy in Central Europe between the wars, i.e., between 1918 and 1938.
Oil discovered in foreign soil...
*Democracy intensifies*
Its gotta be FREE!
"Open the f*****g door! Democracy is coming and takes no prisoners!"
Sounds familiar? 😂😂
*Sounds like someone needs freedom!*
Do you have any evidence that the US invaded Iraq for oil?
American propaganda at its finest
Comunista ardido
Not as bad as Russian/Chinese/NK propaganda.
But yeah, our propaganda is an issue and a major embarrassment to us
@@MMenyan They show that America invented democracy by making it the first even though other republics like Venice and San Marino were already made and though America did not alow some people to vote they still counted it as democracy so if i use that logic countries like Sweden should be democratic before they allowed all people to vote
@@MMenyan No but i would like to point out how they did not bother to change czecslovakia's colour when WW1 ended and when it was controlled by facists
@@mr.stud_ious8534 no one can even see San Marino on a map. It's very small. Maybe it's just the people working there cutting corners?
8:43 "installing democratic sytems" hahaha wtf
"by force" !
@@erwannleligerien3771 USA: for oil!... sorry, i meant democracy
Generally they install virus.
You will take our democracy or you will suffer. It is your free decision.
Mátyás Piller: if you put it that way, i mean..
I like how Czechoslovakia was colony till 1990, and Austro-hungarian empire was colony of who exactly ?
Austria Hungary was kinda a puppet og Germany tho
Chechia and slovakia didnt exist, so they just wrote colony. Same with ukrain
Modern Austria, for sure. Oxford guys are the best.
If the UK isn't counted as an earlier democracy as only the rich could vote, then the USA shouldn't either. I must have missed the history lesson where all the slaves and women went and voted.
Not to mention Canada somehow wasn't a democracy when it became a country despite having a free and open elections
Murka
Or the Weimar Republic, one of the first countries to give the vote to EVERY adult is somehow not a democracy
its because it was a constitutional monarchy at the time, which is a type of anocracy, an open anocracy means everyone can vote. to be a democracy you just need full power in elected officials. why can no one understand this?
@@Gallowglasser yep dosen't matter who gets to vote in democracy, guess to be democracy by your definition everyone of every age has to be able to vote.
this is just a slightly pro-US video.
Giorgio Belluscio how? #troll
Eitan Prian - Ben Zion because it shows the us as the only democracy in the start (which is false) and shows other democratic countries as anochracies or autochracies
Some brainwashed American must have made it after taking drugs which is cool thing to do in the land of the free.
the US was the first republic of modern history
damn right the Supreme Nation.. Commies are Dead !!
I am sorry, but whoever made this video was either out of their mind or just didn't know enough about history/have't used right resources. Czech republic, or at that time the Lands of the Czech crown were never a colony of anyone, these lands were under personal union with Austria the same way as Scotland was under the personal union with England, so I am asking how come is not Scotland painted purple if the Czech lands were? I am also asking how come the Republic of Czechoslovakia is painted purple in the period in between both world wars? Czechoslovakia was a sovereign country, that was actually one of the first European countries to grand voting rights to women since 1918 (earlier than the USA or most of the European countries) it was also the 6th most developed country in the world (ahead were just those countries which exploited other countries by means of colonialism).
Radek Škaroupka you play eu4?
I have to agree, some of the data is completely wrong ... sad
European history, boohoo. IDC about Europe.
As i don't care about individual US states, but USA as whole. Problem is that this video is just wrong.
Radek Škaroupka Wow... settle down. How about appreciating the overall picture?
Well as many here have said, this video has many issues: 1st and most obvious is map borders use actual borders, 2nd the lack of historical accuracy in many countries, ex: Mexico had his first President in 1824 Guadalupe Victoria, and Constitutions were made while fighting for Independance, and was a Constitutional Democracy till 2nd French intervention and later Porfirio Diaz Dictatorship.
3rd and most important the title "The Evolution of World Democracy" is misleading to say the least, since it starts with 1789 US, it should be instead "Evolution of World Constitutional Democracy". "Democracy" was used notably in "Ancient Greece" (Athens mostly, and althought it has the oldest record, could not be the oldest), then thanks to Alexander the Great helenism was spreed and with it the ideals of Ancient Greece, to which as many Rome took after, Carthage too...
Let me explain further: Each democracy has a cenate (or something equivalent, as in other cultures, elder council) and a Representant, that for democracies is elected by a fixed period of time (be it an Archon for Greece or Consul for Rome) that hasnt change much till now days where we vote a "President" which is granted "special powers" while in office, to command armies and take decisions that normally a "cenate" would take too much time to.
PD: Yes this seems as US obvious propaganda that by the unlikes none believes, and instead of lecturing people, it misleads them with wrong/ incomplete info, as they say if you are going to do something dont do it half baked.
What a good joke of yours to say that México had democracy since 1824, when in fact we have had several dictatorships of "compatriots" including those of Porfirio Díaz, Victoriano Huerta and the "perfect dictatorship" of the PRI party for 70 damn years. In the best of cases we had a closed Anocracy where only the elite and the asskissers to the party had the opportunity to climb in society and have prosperity. What a shame that in the eyes of the world, true democracy just entered México as soon as the 21st century arrived.
Czech lands until 1991
*Colony*
@@fplancke3336 sentence you wrote doesn't make any sence 🤷♀️
@@ПетрВрангель-т8п, Ну нихуя ты смелый, чеху на русском ответить.
Ahaha yeah same is about Georgia and other soviet countries..... this is just lazy for using today's map
Петр Врангель Пипец стереотипы у тебя, если один англоязычный канал делает какую-то хуйню, это же не значит что ВСЕ АМЕРИКАНЦЫ ТУПЫЕЕ! Есть тонна американских каналов с очень хорошей и непредвзятой подробной историей, правильной картой и так далее. Тот же Emperor Tigerstar делает неплохие карты.
@@smekty9027 r/woooosh
North Korea was colony in 1816? did author studied real history?
Kochigachi only studied American history...
Delonde Stan Well if you're from America that is a course you need to take.
Well yeah Korea all of Korea also known as Joseon was a colonized vassal state of the china's Qing dynasty... So yeah it could be a colony...
Joseon Korea was not a vassal state, it was an independent state that paid tribute to the Qing. Very different.
Korea colony of Japan!
Wait? How is Norway democracy in 1943 when they're occupied by the Germans?
Germans did not care about the level of free speech there as long as you not the jewish or commie.
@@ТатьянаКудряшова-о2м Well that still makes it a non-democracy. Not being able to express communist or zionist ideas and viewpoints is still controlling free speech.
@@Harrassmus In america you not able to express idea of White supremacy without being claimed "rasist". Is this makes America non-democratic? Oopsie))))
@@ТатьянаКудряшова-о2м lmao that's not comparable at all
@@marcomartins3563 think again.
This is just US propaganda, and I'm saying this as an American.
I agree.
yeah this video is BS
it is more false than correct
it so ridiculous
its easier to count things it did Right that it is to count what it did WRONG
Chile under Allende 1971-1973: Autocracy.
Chile under Pinochet: 1986, Closed Anocracy, 1987-1990, Democracy.
Yeah, sure.
American education...
It is reality
Pinochet is my man
Jajaja lloren comunistas , lloren
Pinochet es un heroe
San Marino and Andorra were democracies before the USA became independent
Padinspi too small to show on a world map
No it didnt
You're right, Andorra was not, but San Marino was
Before the US even existed
True but this like propaganda
Your Atlas is wrong, lacks key data and is declaring Chile a Democracy in years when Pinochet was rulling with an Iron Fist.
Oscar Fuentes Solís doesn't, if you check Chile is painted in red from 1973 to 1989 which is the time period of his rule over Chile
well at least you get some democracy in the xx century, argentina was on full autocracy the whole time acording to this map
@@sebastianjuara Aunque es cierto.
Dictaduras permatentes y el gobierno autocrático de Peron y de de los conservadores.
@@cesarpietrocalathaki9539 la democracia se estableció en Argentina con la sanción de la Ley Saenz Peña de voto secreto en 1913, pero bueno
@@danielechassendague3536 Y duro de 1916 hasta el golpe del 30' seguido de períodos que difícilmente se pueden llamar democráticos (Decada Infame y 2do y 1er gobierno de Perón)
1820: Spain and Portugal start a constitutional monarchy = "Closed anochracy"
1824: Brazil starts a constitutional monarchy, w/ even more voting rights = "Autochracy"
...CRITERIA?
The 1824 constitution of Brazil estabilished that only rich people could vote and gave the emperor almost unlimited power over the government
@@antoniofrancis1736 Actually for me it was weird that during 1945~1964 it's saying it was not a democracy in Brazil. I can understand during 1989~1930 as we had "Café-com-Leite" as it was not a real democracy, but as far as I know, from 1945 to 64 "anyone" could vote, including some populist and controversial Jânio Quadros.So, again: Criteria?
@@antoniofrancis1736 The Moderator power was not like that, not to mention that it was not only the rich who could vote. if you had an average of 500-800 Kings you could come back. Not to mention that the first dictatorships and coups in Brazil started with the end of the parliamentary Constitutional monarchy
@@Dream-ti8cz this. The first two "presidents" of Brazil were in fact dictators.
@@abacaxi4713 the republic started whit A coup, put by two dictators, then there was another coup, that they made them leave and the Farmers who were in favor of slavery began to change in power. Then there was ANOTHER COUP that this time put a Fascist Dictatorship in power. So this dictator gives a blow to stay in power, and finally he leaves with a coup. The answer of Democracy in Brazil is a bit obvious, With the Monarchy those who had more than 500 kings (Little thing at the time), could vote, and never had a dictatorship or coup. The republic started with a coup, it just brought more dictatorships and coups
Why does the Puerto Rican flag show when referring to Cuba's independence.
They look alike. The audience that this video is intended for probably doesn't know there's a difference
Solo12313 the maker of this video got a shut ton of facts wrong don't let the flag annoy you, let this BS video annoy you as a whole lol
But I'm Autistic...
Switzerland was a confederation republic since the 1291 come on.
You democracy too early so not included. jk
History started in 1776
Venmis Everything before that was a mistake
yes anything that someone did before the US did it didn’t actually do it
@Minecraft Veteran re Ron Swanson, "Parks and Rec"
Just to point it out, you put argentina as a democracy during 1981, but it was under a military dictatorship at the time, though its not rare that you put it that way, because the dictatorship was funded by the CIA
Thanks USA!
This map is all wrong. For some reason Czechoslovakia is a "colony" until 1991. You can't even count it as a puppet state of the Soviet Union because it was established before the Soviet Union even existed...
Same thing going on in Chile. Aparently Pinochet wasn't a dictator for the same reason.
@@KennedY3X Is not wrong cuz chile is painted red from 1973-1989
@@cesarpietrocalathaki9539 oh I got confused with the dates, my mistake.
@@KennedY3X No problem dude
I see many mistakes in my country, sometimes changing too soon or changing for no reason at all
Soviet Union under Stalin not red but no data are you kidding me
Incredible to think that sixty four years after Stalin's death we still have no data on how the country was run.
Do you actualy know something about it? Im not saying that it was good, but it worked. Best guverment right now is democracy, but is far from perfect. Perfect would be utopian socialism, but it will never work because people are not perfect.
Yes. Actually I do know something about it. Under Stalin Russia was a genocidal dictatorship. Which is why I don't understand the whole 'no data' thing.
You are all lacking in knowledge. There is plenty of information about the USSR during Stalin Era. Plus it wasn't a genocidal dictatorship, it was a Soviet democracy. You lack critical thinking if you think such. Read Grover Furr books on the subject, he debunks plp like Robert Conquest - footnote by footnote and other propagandaists.
guts the demon slayer Expect you have no idea what it was like.
America isn't a democracy. It's also not the oldest constitutional nation. Colony is not a government system
It is a democratic nation, it is the oldest democracy that remained (clearly) a democracy. A colony is an entity that is governed by another foreign land that tends not to give the same rights to the colonial subjects, and tends to install a semi-autonomous (usually autocratic) leader in charge. There is a clear distinction between the governments of a nation and the ruling authority over a colony.
@@AsscrackistanMapping
Greece is the oldest democracy and the roman empire was also a democracy
@@okano.638 The Roman Empire was never a democracy, democracy means everyone votes on the decisions on hand (which is what happened in Athens), while I think you're confusing the imperial period with the republican you're still wrong on that.
@@okano.638 oof
Osmanischer Kamerad the Roman Republic you ment I think
The map is REALLY inaccurate most of the time, like, it shows Poland's borders from 1945 (from communist times) in 1918 (when Poland gained independence)
Mapped on current borders (:
@@mariasolpersico7115 that means it's wrongly mapped lmao
nobody:
Greenland: N O D A T A
CZECHO SLOVAKIA IS A COLONY? HAHAHAHAHHAAHA
Czechoslovakia was a Soviet colony.
arkuis U are joking?
nope
Interestingly there is an entire chapter devoted to this subject in the book "The Shadow of Colonialism on Europe’s Modern Past" (chapter 14)
Czecho-Slovakia was not considered a colony, It was a satelite state created by the soviets. It was also a democracy during ww2 after it got its independance.
Actually, until November 1889, Brazil was a representative parliamentary constitutional monarchy. Then it turned into a tyrannical military dictatorial republic. And in 1895, into an anti-black oligarchic republic with fraudulent elections that only rich land owners candidates from two states were "elected" as presidents.
Não é atoa que muitos consideram os americanos burros, mesmo os que estudaram nas melhores universidades, veja só esse mapa, teoricamente feito pelos melhores.
Fraudes eleitorais tbm aconteciam na monarquia, e negros não podiam participar, o Monarca detinha poderes autocraticos devido o poder moderador, e o parlamento tinha pouco poder real, podendo ser dissolvido a qualquer momento, assim como foi dissolveido mais de 30 vezes, mostrando a pouca coesão politica e pouca estabildade do Império.
This is a great American video for American audiences, it shows exactly what they want to see. It's all bull**** though, it's so wrong on so many levels.
Eduarda Gomes in the description, it was made by an english university, why would they pander to USA? Also in 1800 it shows uk as anocracy, and owner of many colonies., so if they can show the state of their own country as undemocratic, they can be objective about others
@Skyle Andria America wants to start a new Cold War with China.
i feel like this was made by a 6th grader who failed history class
@@craftyyt2745 and you are a studied scholar of history? Please tell me how your views differ from Oxford university, i'm sure it will be fascinating.
@@Ozymandias83 dude i just wanted to make a joke and no im not
Hahaha I love how you think the US is the oldest democracy yet they copied the British Parliament 🤣
Then they will bang on about having the oldest constitution - which they partially copied from the Iroquois
*Greece wants to know your location*
@@douroumou1094 Obviously Greece invented democracy, but it hasn't been continuous only being restored in the modern period
My country
Uruguay, on that map, it appears as a democracy in 1950, in my opinion
it is a mistake, because in 1899, the first constitutional president
elected by the citizens was elected, Uruguay was the first country to
approve the female vote, being A democracy as consolidated as the United States, which on that map, from the beginning appears in green.
*first in south america, but apart from that you're right.
holi vine a decir lo mismo y me cagué de la risa encontrando a otro yorugua
Brazil too. This is a map made my Yankees to empowered them and destroy others history. Not correct
@@Beowulf_93 litteraly . They really think they invented freedom 🤣
Brazil and Mexico, for example, are super confusing. In many time points, they were democracy, but the map only shows the modern time..
hard so see something so innaccurate in youtube
ITS hard
I would like to see you try
The Weimar Republic from 1919 -1933 in Germany was a democracy.
@@nomoi2098 But still one
I'm not sure why USA is considered democracy in 1816 when most people couldn't vote, and slavery was still legal. I'd be happy classifying the early US as a semi-democratic regime that gradually transitioned into a fully fledged democracy. That said, I love this video, very well made
This video like: “USA France and UK were Democracy’s even in the 9000BC
I can tell you why. You see the world in 1816 through your 2022 lenses. Nowadays, we wouldn’t consider the democracies in Ancient Greece democracies either because you needed to be a free *man* , a citizen of that city-state, and above the age of military service. Only 1/4 of all residents qualified as residents. Still, it is and was a huge deal.
Lots of things have changed between 1816 and 2022 and more things will change in the future. That’s the point of a democracy.
@@VieleGuteFahrer Oh I don't disagree with you, standards have certainly changed. I'm just saying that there are different forms of democracy depending on how strong it is, and we need to distinguish between them using different terminology. The early US and modern US are both, in very broad terms, "democracies", but they are two very different types
@@VieleGuteFahrer how is the USA a democracy but the UK is not? In what way was the USA a democracy before the UK?
@@maxdavis7722 The Queen still has some power. She can dismiss a prime minister, dissolve the parliament, declare war and peace, open the parliament, veto bills, appoint ministers to the crown, grant royal pardon and she's the commander-in-chief. All that without ever being elected by anyone.
Monarchs used to use these rights way more in the past, up until the 1830s.
The U.S. constitution states that "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." The Congress gets elected by the people.
and that "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected […]". Also elected by the people.
The first presidential election took place from 1788 to 1789, before the constitution took effect.
Edit: The uploader linked the source and the UK is listed as one of the countries with the oldest democracies.
So this video starts when the US became a democracy while the first democracies formed in Greece 2300 years before. This video uses modern borders to show countries from 200 years ago. No country is a real domocracy (expecially usa) because if you don't have money you are going nowhere
Edit: I forgot all the democratic city states formed in northern Italy from 1100 to 1500
@Elle Poop wrong, its a Federal Representative Republic and not a democracy at all, and never has been, its called a Democracy due to people being lazy and unlearned about what America is. Civics 101 take it sometime.
BS. The author explicitly says "Modern Government" neither of the two you mentioned would be considered as "Modern" as the notion of an Ethnic homogenous state based on nation was not prevalent back then. No country is a real democracy, what we have is "bourgeois democracy".
A true democracy is when everyone in a population votes on literally everything. A civics 101 class will also tell you it only works for small, and dense populations
Federico Allegretti it doesn’t say first democracy, it says first constitutional democracy
@@shrek1140 You get caught up in the little things buddy...to normal people, democracy is synonymous with voting...whether you get a representative or do it directly,nobody gives a damn...
why is alaska american in the begin?
@Gabriel PLBR13 yea but its small and no one can see it
US-Centered video.
@@kingdomofgreatbritain6478 ok
@@kingdomofgreatbritain6478 I'm sorry but Great Britain is not a kingdom its 3 kingdoms collectively United so it should be kingdoms of Great Britain
@@logan8638 But they all have the same monarch. Also, the UK is the United Kingdom, not the United Kingdoms
Italy has never been a colony. Go to study, man
*cough* Napoleonic War *cough*
Italy has long been a Spanish, Austrian and French colony
@@luigibellini811 well, colony is a strong world. We were in their spheres of influence, sure, but colony is a bit too much here.
@@luigibellini811 And Greek
@@antigonus1161 Yes I know, I meant in more "recent" times
Czechoslovakia was an open democracy from 1918 until 1939. One of the most free ones…not a colony
8:42 is the best joke :
invading iraq and afghanistan to set democratic systems by force
dude just say they wanted oil like come on everyone knows
So in order to get free middle east oil, the U.S spends 2.4 trillion dollars to wage war for oil that they could buy cheaper from Canada or just use there own vast reserves? Why would they spend more money on the war then the oil is worth? If your right then 100% of that oil goes straight to the U.S correct? You can prove this? One more question, whats 2+2 equal? Cause your math skills suck!
@@Atlas-uz4vtits not about the oil,but competition. The us is stuck in a "beat country of the world" mentality that they must eliminate competition in oil(the most demanded thing in the world right now). If the us didnt attack those countries, they would have made the dollar obsolete in the oil business...
Actually, the whole oil thing was from gulf war in the '90s because we defended Kuwait from Iraqis and somewhere in the middle we decided we wanted the secure as much of the oil we can. So that whole oil meme comes from that.
The us gets less than 5 percent of its oil from the middle east
Bruv the us does not have enough oil to export it. The us currently imports most of its oil from canada. Everything in the middle east after the gulf war was due to 9/11. We were livid and willing to destroy anything that was remotely responsible עבדיהו בן חכמה
It was a good concept, but not as well executed as I had hoped. There were a lot of parts that were left out, and using modern borders doesn't work. There are plenty of animated maps that are more accurate. For example, Korea wasn't a "colony" in the 19th century (it was a colony of Imperial Japan from 1910 to 1945), nor was it divided until 1945 either. I see in the comments there were many similar cases.
There was also a huge double standart with the US being shown as full democracy with slavery and without women sufrage while other countries only got the democracy when female sufrage was allowed like wtf?
Yeah, the slaves totally had their civil liberties guaranteed...
Democracies do not have to guarantee civil liberties to non citizens aswell, also making it fine.
Democracies dont really garantee everyone's freedom. Though might be contradiction, the US is a democracy ever since...
The US is an oligarchy a country governed by a small group of people (the rich and powerful) were commoners cannot get into government
Democracies can be elitist. Athens was even more restrictive with voting rights
Without the founding in 1776, there is no foundation to eventually free the slaves. We could of just became a monarchy, that form of government has been rather successful, not.
Great. Im from Czechia and I cant know how democratic my country was because its considered as a colony.
West Germany was definetly a Republic aka a Democracy after 1945. Why you greyed us out is a mystery to me
Wegen „nicht aktueller Grenzen“... Dieses Video ist reiner Müll.
a republic is not a democracy, and a democracy is not a republic there are like first cousins but not the same at all.
The map uses current borders, we have to deal with that.
Now, if you consider Germany the successor state to FRG only, then OK "Germany" was democratic. But imagine you've suffered from GDR's police state for decades, and now you see a joyful green colour at that very place and moment... This can't be. It makes way more sense to say "Germany was cut in two & the halves had vastly different systems => I can't pick a single colour for the whole => Grey".
In doubt, grey would be the answer anyhow ; but here there is no doubt imho : this grey is the way to solve an ambiguity, an impossibility.
@@yahouyahaa5726 you could simply make the map stripped.
Hello Palpatine you must be missing your old galactic empire.
A true joke here: DEMOCRACY START from US，lol！
@李威 能在“自由世界”多看看各种奇葩不好吗
@李威 我是中国人，但我政治立场处于自由主义，也并不反感民族主义，但反感沙文主义，所以这两年出国准备移民了，中国现在连自由主义者也会被打压了
yes thure, iran for example is not a friend of Usa but this country have free election, Venezuela dont sale is petroil for low price at Usa and this country become a anonarchy, the same for Turkey his president become more strong this country become more power and strong and for usa is not anymore a democray.
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>other republics of USSR - colonies??? what the heck man
>Czechoslovakia is not a *COLONY*
Krizhownik satellite government
Krizhownik it a puppy state
They might not have been called colonies but they were. They were in control of the Soviet Union by force.
latengocomoburro especially Ukraine, when the half of the Soviet leaders were Ukrainian.
@@adinsnock9462 and none of them elected by the people.
So Allende is elected president in Chile and he became a dictator? History wasn`t that way, we had a democracy until 1973 when Pinochet and the military forces bombarded the palace of goverment and tortured thousands of people until 1990. Oh I forgot to mention it, Nixon boicoted the economy between 1970-1973 and established Pinochet as the cruel dictator that he was. Please do the video as the history has taught us.
*video claims the USA is a democracy*
A flawed democracy.
The country is not a democracy at all. The people have almost no control at all.
**Ding**
People: *elect congress*
Congress: *damn that was easy, well time for our plans*
*passes laws abolishing half our rights*
People: um, we don't approve
Congress: *woah is this treason?*
The Legend We were never meant to be a true Democracy.
Anocracy: an insulting umbrella term to describe anything betwin a democracy and an autocracy
How is it insulting?
@@escopiliatese3623 Beside the fact it takes no consideration of others forms of governaments like
parlamentary monarchy (UK,
Spain, Canada and most of
northern Europe)
constitutional monarchy (Monaco,
Marocco and other states of arabic
peninsula)
parlamentary republic (Italy,
Germany and most of the Balkan
states)
dual executive republic (France,
most of eastern Europe and - de
iure - Russia)
presidential republic (USA and
basically all south America)
aristocratic republic (or whatever
was the Holy Roman Empire)
ancient Rome _Res Publica_
(which is pointless to categorize
with modern standard of politics)
plus every other system known to
man
Beside THAT it's based on the assumption of a form of governaments can be a democracy AND dictatorship at the same time. Which is ridiculous since historical evidence clearly shows the opposit. Plus it denies the existance of multiple types of democracy like
direct democracy (ancient greece)
representative democracy
(basically every modern states
worthy of this name since both
monarchies and republics can rule
like that)
social democracy (kind of
the Third Way but not really)
liberal democracy (USA before
Trump)
federal democracy (also USA,
in a certain way the UE)
social liberalism (the actual Third
Way if communism was still a
thing but it's not)
And that without considering how the terms are used in the video (poorly)
India was a democracy between 1947 and 1950. From the day 1 of our independence we have been a democracy. In 1950 we just shifted to a universal adult franchise. It that is the definition of democracy... Universal adult franchise.. then no country was a democracy before world war 1...
India's constitution makes it clear that India is a federal, sovereign, socialist, secular democratic republic.
@@陈陳-t5c India is now capitalist...
@@thesportsguy3088 most of country is… powerful c
Wow true
@@thesportsguy3088
Socialism is not reliable..
Dude its so historically inaccurate! Like Czechoslovakia being a colony after WW 1 WTF???
Map is completely wrong🤦🏼♂️
it'd take to long to animate every change, *Maybe get a brain.*
@@basil9973 actually it doesn't
Doesn't really matter
Naps Maps It does matter actually
@@captainjackpugh6050 Nope because people already did the history of the world in video
One of many US low-quality propaganda videos
how is it propaganda?
the visualisation was created by people at Oxford
@@tjs200
That's even worse - the propaganda of Oxford's puppets. Today the word "democracy" has a new transcription as vassal of USA.
Absolutelly agreed
@@nikitaermolaev709 get over yourself and your anti-western views. you clearly have a false sense of the understanding of what democracy is. it doesn't mean the people have all aspects of control over every minut detail of how the country is run. Nor is that a preferable situation.
@@-sanchousgoblin357 I'm pretty sure the people who gathered this data weren't on the US government's payroll. They tried to collect accurate data - Of course their proccess inevitably had biases, as it would with anyone. But It's not like it was deliberate.
I'm really confused as to the definition of democracy in this video. I'll use the UK as an example as it's the country I know best. Since 1215 parliament had had powers over taxation, so this is the point at which complete rule by one person stops. The Tudors saw the rise of the house of commons made up of representatives from each county. Whilst not democratic these were kind of elected but from the gentry. From around the late Stuart time all land owning males had the right to vote for there representatives. 1867 all males and 1918 both men and women had the vote. So depending on how democratic a nation had to be to count Britain should either be a democracy from the start or at one of these two points. It seems slightly odd that a nation with slavery and no votes for women counts as democratic. Please correct me on any dates I got wrong.
James Doody britain was a consitutional monarchy at the time
James Doody democracy in this video means a multi body legislature with a president and judiciary which are all elected and can do what they want without approval of the citizens. Oh wait the judiciary isn't even elected lol. AND IT RULES FOR LIFE
Parthian Capitalist
It clearly doesn’t as the UK becomes a democracy later in the video despite no constitutional change having occurred in the UK at the time is supposedly becomes democratic- we still have no president. The video is another bs pro- US lie....
@@parthiancapitalist2733 in that case Australia, Canada and even the worlds most democratic country Norway would not be considerd democracies
@@hamxakronchromium199 it still is a constitutional monarchy, that doesn’t mean it isn’t democratic.
Brazil was a parliamentary monarchy from 1822 onwards, not an "autocracy"
Th is is a American map to destroy others history. Not fact. Usa was a Anocracy.
According to this map the Netherlands was a "closed anarchy" until the first world war. That can not be true since it was a constitutional democracy since 1848. That became the basis for the democratic nowadays. I like the map and the idea. Only I think it is very important to get it right because otherwise people get a twisted view on different counties.
*ANOCRACY* not ANARCHY
@@basil9973 it is still wrong ----- Netherlands was way more democratic then the us in 1815
@@baronbrummbar8691 the Netherlands was a Monarchy in 1815
@@dyltack5349 it was still more democratic then the us
@@dyltack5349 netherlands is btw still a monarchy
Why is Czechoslovakia a colony since its beggining? Like wtf
When you put that Cuba gains independence in 1902 you put a picture of my flag, the Puertorican flag. It's an error
deberían dale la patada en el culo a los eeuu ya
alfonsinator estos tipos no tienen ni idea de latinoamerica, pusieron lo que la oficina de asuntos exteriores de Estados Unidos les dijo
alfonsinator wow. People here are so much assholes. You must to correct him about every little thing? just enjoy the video!
Yeah the US sure was a democracy while they had slavery. What a joke of a video
The US is definitely at least some sort of anocracy at this point.
Nah we’re a democracy especially by the broad standards of this video that doesn’t distinguish between republics and constructional monarchies and democracy.
The united states is a democratic republic.
True especially US schools in the future are designed to be more like panopticons.
Kafkacracy?
The US is a Federalist Republic technically, and if "Democracy" is defined as majority rule ove minority than that is what the US was and has been trying hard not to be since its founding, since the late 60s we are finally making more progress toward our ideals but there is still alot of complex messed up stuff and opressions.
not just because you dislike ok hate Trump does not change the style of government, it would if Trump simply declared himself pres for life, which would not be long.
Why'd you ignore Pinochet
Martin Pokorný heliGoperts ridees :DDDDDDDDD
Cuz Pinochet was supported by America
Pinochet was the best leader in Chile
Idk, Allende was their best president and country was coloured with red lol
*Mí General Augusto Pinochet 🚁*
This is what Americans get taught in school... And they they're surprised when the whole world calls them idiots. LOOK AT THE STATE OF THIS!
No, We are not.
@@neopangean6218 You're right, we don't get taught anything in school.
@@DSVlad lol
😂😂😂
Trying to compile all the various errors (by no means is this an exhaustive list)
1. Perhaps most alarming of all is that the map uses modern day borders, even going back to the early 19th century. This makes the map infinitely more confusing than it needs to be, and insanely innacurate.
2. Calling the US a democracy in the 1800s would be a stretch. Even ignoring Jim Crow, until the 1820s, only white men who owned property could vote.
3. No data for the USSR, even under Stalin. It obviously would be considered an autocracy for basically all of its existence.
4. Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia are somehow labled "open anocracy" even though it was clearly a brutal regime run by the white minority.
5. Many places labled colonies when they weren't. For some reason, most of Africa before the Scramble is labled as being a "colony" when that was factually untrue. Czechoslovakia is labled as being a colony, along with parts of the USSR and Yugoslavia (I suspect this is to comply with the rule of having to go by modern borders).
6. India was not a democracy for the entirety of its independence. From 1975-77, during "the Emergency," Indira Gandhi had emergency and near-dictatorial powers.
Wtf? Argentina:
1816-1916 closed-open anocracy
1916-1930 democracy
1930 autocracy
1931-1943 open anocracy
1943-1945 autocracy
1945-1955 democracy
1955-1976 open anocracy
1976-1983 autocracy
1983- present day . democracy
USA GREEN all the video???
Yeah makes sense
Makes total sense.
1945-1955 Dictadura , aunque te duela la cola Peroncho
@@godemperadorlgabrielaquino Fue elegido democráticamente, entonces es una democracia. El gobierno de macri aunque le digan dictadura es una democracia también, porque fue elegido por el pueblo, sin golpes de estado, fraude electoral, etc. Democracia: del griego demos(pueblo) kratos(poder, gobierno). Saludos
Parkour
Nice try, but the creators clearly missed the time and the resources to make it a relevant and usefull source of knowladge. This task would be fitting to a Uniersity faculty, and still, it would take months to comlete.
Czech lands were never a colony
And in 1918-1938 we were democracy and not colony.
You had me going for a while there, I didn't realize this was a parody page until I saw that you had the US down as a democracy. Hilarious!
Republic does not mean democracy.
República não é sinônimo me democracia.
Republic is from the Latin words res publica =common affairs , the Roman style democracy (before the imperial era). Democracy is from the Greek word Democratia= people's rule, the Athenian democracy. These two democratic systems was different but nowadays there is no difference between those two terms.
Não é, mas monarquia sempre será sinônimo de autocracia.
@@Karifi Nem sempre, veja o atual Reino Unido e se pesquisar o Brasil na época de Pedro 2(1840 a 1889) foi bem mais democrático que a República.
@@Karifi certeza? veja Noruega, Suécia e Japão só como exemplos de pura "autocracia" e na época da monarquia brasileira era bastante democrática no contexto daquela época
AMERICA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 19TH CENTURY WAS DEMOCRACY ??? A dark-skinned slaves knew about this ???)))
Switzerland is a direct democracy.
As someone from Northern Ireland, cool to find out we existed as a separate nation 200 years ago. Apparently we were a democracy but Southern Ireland was a colony.
It wasn't a colony. All of Ireland was in the UK, there was no Northern Ireland. All of us were in the same nation as Scotland England and Wales. The UK. Which was a democracy.
Depends who you talk to...
Yeah that’s like saying Scotland is a colony of England
central asia and eastern europe is considered a colony of the soviet union for some reason
Corporatocracy
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Eh.. no. Are you ignorant lmao.
England occupied Ireland where-as Scotland willingly entered a union with England. Pretty large difference and your metaphor is bad.
Jesus Christ, this mess is innacurate
Why Alaska is a part of USA in 1816? It was russian
Konstantikkov it’s mapped on modern borders
The Senate But it should not use morden borders and instead have highlited parts showing the parts so it won’t be confusing
The Brazil Empire (1822-1889) wasn't a autocracy, It had constitution that guaranteed the civil liberties, and after 1847 we adopted the paralamentarism a way to people express their political preferences.
I'm not a monarquist, but sure ever since Brazil turned into a republic, Brazil was never a real republic and surely was never really democratic
What? Klaus, Empire of Brazil was a democracy. It was as democratic as you can get.
Yes. I said the Republic not the Empire of Brazil. It's up there in the lines, read again.
It was fairly democratic to its time, but nowadays it would not be considered a democracy.
Mind explaining? Since from the looks of it it seems pretty much how it is today. The Emperor acted just a branch of the government hardly total control. So how is it different? No government is exactly alike, but it doesn't mean it is any less democratic. And it was because the imperial family was weak, the empire eventually fell. Along with a few other reasons.
No data for Russia? Why?
The system was quite interesting, there it is necessary to read about it and it looked far from how it is considered to be in the west. That is why this system is more often called the dictatorship of the proletariat than authoritarianism.
I don't know maybe because some persons say they voted and some that not
Adwait Top tens no creo....mas bien con ese gobierno neoliberal, la glasnot de gorbachov no sirivio de nada...aun sigue reprimiendo la libertad de expresion.
y por cierto, con esas crisis gracias a yeltsin, sera dificil ser las urss otra vez
@@GevioneXChannel dictatorship of the proletariat is a fancy way of saying I am the proletariat I will look out for you so trust me with all powers, stalin's soviet union was so blatantly an autocracy
I also wonder why... stalin was THE autocrath!
To everyone who keeps wondering why the comments are so angry....any map that portrays the US in a good light, is automatically incorrect.
Someone: "this map has mistakes"
This guy: "FILTHY COMMUNISTS, ONLY REDS CAN QUESTION DEMOCRACY!"
The US is not the first constitutionally governed country. Constitutional law is just law about law. Many countries had systems to make law.
Potestas L San Marino is USA is second. And codified constitution is what wrre talking about
Welp they just said "oldest constitutionally governed country"
@@CoolioXXX52 San Marino only allowed the elites to vote until 1906. It was much less of a democracy than the US was before that.
there are a lot of errors in this animation, you cannot define government of a nation of that nation didnt exist in a timeframe. also there are countries dpeicted as democratic but their gobernments were not really democratic
NOce try, but i think a presentation like this would require a deeper search on what happened on each contry at a certain timeframe. For example, someone could argue that a democracy is not really a democracy if more than a half of their population (women) is not allowed to vote. So the real democracy for USA starts in the 20th century
Its funny how in Argentina you put Perons presidencyas a dictatorship (while there still was a democracy), and the dictatorship that came right after as an "closed anocracy". Think should be the other way around.
Yeah, Argentinas map looks like it was made by Videla himself....
Yeah. This is pretty absurd.
aguante el faso vieja!
Y bueno, Perón tenía el control total.
Perón era dictador Fascista , así que la gráfica está bien .
How did you get "Colony" for North Korea and "No data" for South Korea in 19C? Those two were the same country until 1945.
lol the Soviet Republics are "colonies", and that Zimbabwe isn't a dictatorship.
I live in former soviet republic and I can confirm that it's true. Everything was descided in Moscow. They even took tribute from our income. Even russian language was peioritized over national. If you come to Lithuania and try to talk to any random person older than 30 in russian he will understand and reply, he might not to speek in lithuanian but he definately will speak in russian. Even most of old papers and documents was either in russian or in russian and lithuanian. So taxes was going to Moscow, local goverment was compleate pupets of moscow without any right to oppose, and local language was neglected in favour of russian. So yes we were 100% colony.
I think, that many former sowiet citizen will confirm, that the republics were "colonies". As Tamo Lamo already mentioned, all the decisions were made in Moscow. That was the reason, why the overall system was so fragile and lead to the fall of the soviet union in the early 90's.
@@aschneider2013 The Soviet colonies and European ones should not be confused. Since many of these colonies lived better than the metropolis
@@tamolamo4698 The definition of colonies is a little wrong. It’s probably just the regions of one country, this is especially noticeable in terms of the standard of living, since you had it higher than in Russia
2015 man. In 2015 Mugabe was the leader.
US would be a closed anocracy at least until 1828 and an open anocracy at least from 1860-71, but you could argue expanding that to as early 1855.
Belarus, Ukraine, the Caucasus & most of Central Asia shouldn't be listed as Russian colonies after 1917, especially in the period of 1917-22 when many of those countries were briefly independent from the USSR & didn't have a Russian military presence. Uzbekistan & Turkmenistan (albeit with very different borders) would be exceptions to this until around 1922.
Czechoslovakia shouldn't be listed as a colony, nor should Croatia, Macedonia & Slovenia.
If they're going to list those as "colonies", it doesn't make sense to list North Korea as an autocracy (esp. from 1945-72), since it seems like it would've met the same democratic standards as other Soviet bloc countries and has a Soviet military presence for a time. I'm not saying that it should've been listed as a colony, but if we were to go by your sources standards, it wouldn't make sense not to list it as one.
Soviets never were democratic and you idiot
Yes usa was democratic because of elections and freedom of speech
@@rolanddeschain9880 Overall this video has a big problem with what it defines at democracy.
Somehow France from the 60's isn't a democracy despite being billion times more democractic than 19th century USA.
Wrong, San Marino is the oldest constitutionally-governed nation in the world. You know, that micro-state in the middle of Italy, everyone knows about San Marino, it is also one of the oldest countries in the world, in case you were wondering.
Ben Hickey well said, but it doesn't fit the US propaganda
Lol, thanks.
San Marino's Constitution is uncodified, and has been since it was created.
It’s amusing to watch people get so angry because the USA accomplished something profound in 1776, but they try to downplay it as no big deal. So they yell “evil American propaganda” from their computers and try to feel better about their own nations that likely fall far below America’s economic and military might. Envy is easy to spot.
Yes it is.... ^^^^^