I was a truck driver and learned very fast that it's a big time waster. Most of these companies don't care that much about you or your family. You can make more money doing something simple like mowing lawns and make more money in less time than driving a truck. I drove for 10 years and the only benefit I got was weight gain and other health related problems. Make no mistake about it...truck driving is a skilled position and most people could not do it or pass the background screening. I stopped driving because of the low pay, long hours and it ruins your health and well being. I would advise you to stop because their is no glory in it. I have over 2 million miles and 2 gold watches. It would have been better to have 2 million dollars for the effort. Hope this helps.
+Rich Burnette ....just so you know....in order to drive 2 million miles in 10 yrs...you'd have to be driving 2 hundred thousand miles a year.....for a solo driver, it can't be done!!! In order for a solo driver to do this....they would have to drive 548 miles a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, WITH NO MANDATORY BREAKS OF 34 HRS.....So you might want to correct your log.....just saying....Signed....an actual solo truck driver who has been driving for lot longer than you did.....
This is the second go around for a problem similar to this it was going on in the 40s the solution was found it was called THE TEAMSTERS UNION! the drivers have to take responsibility for they're own destiny and figure out how to unite and stand up to these low ball scab company's and say no we're not working that cheap!
My message to youngsters , A former truck driver from Canada: Please stay out of this business, you can make more money in burger king and McDonald. Even immigrants are getting out of it, they are realizing that they cant work for peanuts, Just few months back we have a truck driver strike in greater Toronto Area, the minimum wage for trucker here in Ontario is 16-18 bucks an hour Every thing on the grocery shelf become expensive.
That's fucked up. And to think, my salary at my warehouse job is $12/hr, and it still barely covers what I need to to, and I STILL can't afford health insurance. But after seeing this video, I'll stick to my warehouse job.
The Numbers don't lie. If you are a company driver, and lets say you make 0.43/mile. Real world average is, give or take - 3000 miles/70 week per HOS. = $ 1,290/wk - 15%(Ontario payroll tax) = $1096.50 net. divide that by 70 hrs + the extra hours they don't pay you for( waiting,fueling, paperwork etc...) 2 hrs a day x 7 days; 1096.5/ 84 hrs = $13.05 an hour that's what your working for,(Ontario minimum wage is $11.25) Economic Servitude- PAY TRUCKERS AN HOURLY WAGE!
Exactly right! With todays technology, there's no need for load brokers. I could never understand why shippers would give their freight to companies that didn't own any trucks. It's like asking a guy that doesn't own a car, for a ride. Dave
The carrier can't pay the driver because the customer won't pay the carrier? They'll pay the carrier whatever the carrier charges. The freight has to move or the customer doesn't make money. They'll pay whatever the carrier charges so long as it's the cheapest. This guy must be an "armchair economist". The fact he calls truckers an unskilled labour force means he has a complete disconnect with what goes on in the industry.
I'm not calling anyone a name *****. You can't possibly be a top level economist or you wouldn't have this theory that doesn't make sense. If you say something like this, I'd expect some reasonable back up. Can you share with us your role in the industry? Name calling? Wow..... trucker professionalism? It's attitudes such as yours which cause so much grief in this industry. Did you read the responses on FB by others in the business to your letter? Perhaps we could get some feedback.
Ed, as someone who worked as a shipper/receiver for almost a year and a half for a huge concession supply company, I can tell you that my manager wanted two things: 1) the shipment to be accurately picked so too avoid reshipping, and 2) the carrier to get it to the customer as fast as possible. Unless we mis-picked something, our customers paid the freight, and they didn't care the cost so long as they got the product in time to sell it.
***** Unfortunately the big carriers don't seem to raise their rates with their customers. They would rather cut it to prevent another carrier from getting the freight, regardless of whether they have the capacity. Not having the capacity leads to load brokers who contract with smaller carriers who then give it to a company driver or operator. Of course with every transaction money is taken out but the freight doesn't get moved, until the last. The driver ultimately gets the last piece of (crappy) pie. The business model is to blame here and needs to be reinvented. I have spoken to several ride sharing companies and have asked them to develop an app for the trucking industry that cuts out the carrier/broker cycle and allows shippers and drivers to communicate directly without carrier/broker interference. An "Uber" style app that guaranteed payment on delivery and lower freight rates (by cutting the fat) is just what the industry needs I believe. That plus a national shutdown during the next federal election. BTW try pulling anything over the Rogers or the Coq in chainup conditions, tippy container, empty van, tanker, pups then get out of the cab and call yourself unskilled.
Good example, my company about 8 yrars ago booked a load out of Miami Florida going into Chicago now the customer made a mistake and fax the rate confirmation to the carrier instead of the broker now the load that we were told it pays $1,000 for 1000 miles now when company got a confirmation it's sad that the load paid $7,000 and out of that $7,000 the driver was paid only $1,000 for 1000 miles.
Im doing my training now, but i see this otr is a ripoff long hours low pay... im going back home find something local tbat pays by the hour...They will continue to pay truckers crumbs as long as we let them ... im gonna get 6mths experience and im out!!! Peace
my local company i work for, ruan. they consider working 4 days a week and over 40 to 60 hours a week, they consider that many hours a week part time and dont' pay benefits. when i am working 60 plus hours a week and 5 days, 12 to 14 hour work days. they consider that full time and not over time. so my question is. are they being injust with the pay in that regard? i know of other local companies who claim they pay for overtime over 40 hours. also on top of that, they steal money from the driver's checks each week and just tell the driver to fill out a pay descrepancy form if you catch something you did missing off your check. but they steal from all the drivers all the time, and they convolute their pay settlement sheets so it is real hard for the drivers to catch it, or even bother with it.
*And Yet ANOTHER Reason NOT to Pay the Trucker.* Yes, and when you think you've heard it all, there's yet another excuse that this industry, can't pay decent wages. I respond to a letter from a UA-cam viewer on why drivers will never get paid what they deserve. #trucker #truckingindustry #truckdriver
Smart-Trucking.com , Yep, unfortunately big companies pay peanuts and there is a crazy turnover of new truck drivers. Its better just to work an office job Mon-Fri and 40 hours.
Smart-Trucking.com, you failed to mention how the breakup of Truckers from their wives are part of the Lion’s share of divorce court cases. The HORROR CHEATING stories I heard while running the hiway for the 19 years I did. Devastating cases of double cross and “Coming home early surprises!!!! Delve into that when you can. The feedback from it will appall you.
problem is people willing to drive for less. if more drivers stood up for them selfs and were willing to leave the company they are currently working for. for a better paying job then carrier's would have no choice but to start paying more. I blame the drivers willing to work for 34-36 cents a mile. they need to start holding them selfs to a higher standard and work for companies paying 45-50 cents a mile.
Absolutely... Trucker's CAN'T WORK FOR FOOD ! So called "corporation" dictates the prices - it's preplanned and manipulated situation just to lower the trucker's pay. On the the top of that we get "so called regulations" to dehumanize trucker's life. I could put dozens of examples here to support what I just said... Any way, if I don't get what I want in the order to support my family and continue my life I just go to another firm and say screw it !!! Nothing to lose anymore... I need to have my life too., as those "dictating, "providing work", "regulating" and so on... If they don't like it, they can have their way - GET ANOTHER RESUME. Fed up with their BS. PS. These days truckers are the most skilled People in our countries (US & CA, after closing thousands of manufacturing companies with "their perversity & bankruptcies".
our industry is full of get rich quick companys and company owners.. if they cant buy 2 or 3 or more vacation propertys then they get there panties in a knot.. at the same time they force dispatch, dont pay the owner opps insurance or licence yet they take a $5000.00 hold back from the driver and invest his or her money and make away like a bandit.. why 5000 dollars.. plus they dont pay for 45 days...huh??? so they have at any given time over $50,000.00 of your money...again huh?? will you ever see that ?? not likely.. when you quit or leave ? good luck. the company weasels will come up with some excuse not to pay you your money.. how many of you out there in your car driving to the city day in and day out can afford to give up 20,000 clams when you quit your job.. most companys ive worked for are caniving weasels and you dont have a leg to stand on in court..they lie about freight rates and wont show you the actual invoice from the shipper.. guess what .. your getting screwed.. And you company drivers out there who are making .45 cents a mile?? they could pay you double and still make money.But as long as you get a touque and a pair of gloves or maybe a montanas gift card for $50.00 you think your special.. wake the frig up dumb ass..yet these same companies will call you on a sunday afternoon from there cottage and tell you to get to the yard,an emergency load has just popped up and you have to go.. and you run like lemmings to the yard while they hang up the phone and open another bottle of wine.. they retire years later and wonder" hey. what ever happened to old Bill? he was a good driver..Oh he just left the yard with another emergency load..." . yes we are screwed until something happens in our industry..
I agree with most of the letter, although I think some of the wording is disrespectful to truck drivers. It's certainly not that truck drivers aren't skilled, it's that the barriers to entry to become a truck driver are fairly low. I see courses that are less than 250 hours to become a truck driver. I'm guessing the training is good enough so that the driver can get from point A to B on dry pavement, which in most carriers' eyes is good enough. If an accident occurs, it's the driver's fault anyway, so the carrier isn't worried too much (someone please correct me if this is incorrect.) The supply of people that can get through a course like this is high, therefore wages will be low. It's not that the carriers can't pay decent wages, it's that they won't because they don't need to. Regarding the shortage of truck drivers, every industry association asserts that their industry needs more people in order to increase the supply of workers in their industry, therefore pushing down wages. If there really was a driver shortage, pay would go up.
Entertainment Unit I agree the letter was slightly disrespectful and yes, if an accident occurs the truck driver is usually blamed. please note there truly IS a driver shortage, note pay increases now starting to be offered by many carriers including Swift and Kriska
Contacted Paper Transport, Inc. looking for a J-O-B. (Just Over Broke) First thing I asked the recruiter was what a specific trip paid in miles. I was on the phone and at the computer checking Google maps. I entered the numbers from address to address. I was shocked to find out they short their drivers. (Not really shocked)(About 30 miles per day) I asked why they short their drivers and the BS began flowing. She said it was because that's the contracts they had negotiated with the shippers. (Like that was supposed to make it OK) No, I did not go to work for PTI. If I had gone to work for PTI getting shorted on my pay would've been my fault. I drive for a FedEx contractor that pays hub miles. Dedicated route. Home everyday.
I feel the super carriers have finally cut off their nose to spite their face. They undercut the freight rates and put the smaller carriers out of business. Now, the shippers are used to the cheap rates and won't budge when the super carrier needs an increase to keep up with operating costs. So, instead of upsetting their investors the carrier freezes the driver wages trying to squeeze every penny out of the drivers time. I've worked for two super carriers and always (not really) wondered why dispatch was behind bullet proof glass and code locked doors. The dispatch crew knew the drivers were tired of being treated as POS and were afraid of retribution. Immigrant labor is another problem. I applaud legal immigrants but they don't realize the problems they cause. They work cheap because in their home country what we pay is a gold mine. More super carrier economics.
I agree, I was a truck driver instructor in England, where the standard of driving is high, compared to US and Canada. It has to be as the roads are much smaller and more congested. So the reason I left trucking after 5 years OTR in North America and 20 years in England and Europe was because the hours a driver has to put in to get the load from A to B is not reflected in the pay packet. Cents per mile does not count when you are parked waiting on shippers to get load together, I regularly had to wait hours, both to unload, and reload. This is time the driver donates to his boss. Also after waiting 3, 4, or 5 hours for the load, then to earn a days pay, at cents per mile, you try not to start your log book until you are on the road, then you will be driving tired later in the day. We all know how dangerous that is, and risky, for going to jail to be Bubba's bitch, no thanks.
Ronald Reagan deregulated the trucking industry...It still has an impact on it today.. Fuel prices go up,wages stay stagnant.. Carriers of had to go to a fuel surcharge..What about a down time charge.No because it doesn't effect them. Warehouses could careless how long a driver sits. 99% of the time the customer pays for no down time. Because the carrier is scared of loosing the business..It's a catch-22.That doesn't look like it's going to change. City drivers get paid by a time clock.. if over the road truck drivers got paid by the clock they would be millionaires. They need to make more incentive for over the road truck drivers.
If truckers are unskilled labor, put some teenage punk fresh from his burger flipping job behind the wheel and see how that works. Yeah, that's what I thought.
i think local jobs are where its at. hourly pay, go home at the end of your shift, shower at home, sleep in your own bed. so many reasons NOT to drive OTR.
my husbands an owner operator in Canada..he used the company's trailor.had to pay insurance. the brakes heated up in the winter and the owner had sgi insurance look into the situation..they said not drivers fault..ware was. the owner kept my husbands 1st month pay and his last to pay to replace the brakes..There is no law in Canada that stops the owner of the company from doing this..the lawyer said his costs would be more then getting his pay back..Canada laws do not protect owners operators at all.Drivers be aware!
This is all caused by the Federal Reserve, and the banks, Zero interest rates. With Zero interest rates, the largest trucking companies can get trucks for almost nothing, so they get more trucks , and more rookies coming out of schools every day, no experience, equals more wrecks, late deliveries. owner operator pays top interest on loan, tough to compete. when interest rates go up, truck driving pay will go up as well.
I hate to say it but to an extent the letter guy is correct in some ways. if you are in a city where there are more trucks than freight, the shippers have the upper hand to pay less, because the trucks have to fight one another for the freight, however if there are less trucks in that city than freight available, the rates go up because the shippers have to pay what is needed to get their product moved. the bigger issue here is when the trucking companies make substantial profit off of a particular load, they simply pocket the money as where they base the pay to the driver solely on the lowest profit margin load. that's why as a driver percentage pay is better because as the rate increases, so does your pay as the driver. the sad thing is that truck drivers pay has had no increase based on any rate of inflation in 20 plus years. today a standard company driver makes 50k annually, 20 years ago that annual pay could support a family comfortably; today, you scratch by pay check to pay check. where's our fight for $15? I can't tell you how many days I've sat at shippers or receivers that took 6,7,8 hours or more to load/unloaded, bringing the pay for the day or possibly the week to barely over minimum wage.
I have to agree with the point made about there being an overabundance of truck drivers and that part of the problem truck drivers do not get paid as good as they should be. Reasons behind this are, because when you first sign on as a truck driver you have to go with a large company making basically minimum wage or less if you do the math because you have low experience. The government gives major tax breaks to these large companies that hire rookie driver straight out of school. And because these large companies are paying these new drivers so little and getting a tax break for hiring them they are able to charge very competitive rates app for hauling Freight. The major reason I believe there is an over abundance of truck drivers is due to the lies recruiters for CDL schools and trucking companies that are used to sucker people in. I got into the trucking industry because I was told my first year I would be making 50K easily and after my second year I could make 100K if I busted my butt. So naturally I took it with a grain of salt and estimated that to be exaggerated slightly. Lo and behold it turns out that was exaggerated majorly I still haven't hit 50K a year after 10 years of driving. I think a good solution to the trucking industry problems would be getting paid an hourly rate like most every job out there or a weekly salary that does not fluctuate.
Its not shippers or the trucking companys fault.shippers dont raise and lower freight on a daily basis the brokers do.freight brokering should be done away with in this industry and let the trucking company pursue its own contacts.during a down time shippers dont take advantage for the most part but those brokers are more than willing to slice throats.why wouldnt they tho.they dont have a dog in the race.they dont make product,load product or deliver product.if they make a dollar they are still in the black.ive been on both sides of the phone and its crazy how many people in this industry know not one thing about it other than cashing checks
Poor Ed (writer) knows nothing! I hauled doubles and did dock work for a LTL company, it was the hardest, least paying job, and I left after six weeks! The company was down two injured doubles drivers (workers comp), as well as one driver leaving. The company was so desperate for drivers, they called the 1-800-rent-a-driver. The rental company didn't have any qualified drivers with doubles, tank and hazmat, but we took one driver without endorsements out of desperation! I had to load the rental drivers 53' trailer carefully because of his restrictions, while he napped in the tractor being paid more than me. Then I loaded my two trailers with totes, placed compatible hazmats on each pup, then placarded, hitched, pre tripped, and hauled back. Some companies will skirt around trying to pay low wages, but in the end, they will pay out for under qualified, high rental driver wages, because they get so desperate. The qualified, hard working company driver may not exist in our future. In the end, we all maybe scab drivers, and companies will be slaves to rental driver agencies, who may or may not have qualified divers!
I always find it so funny how the carriers and customers crying about how they cannot pay a driver what they are worth. I put it this way, 70, 34, 30, 14, 11, 10, 8; pick up and delivery- all of these are the clocks that drivers are subject to. What's missing? PAY!! The fact that everything that involves proper compensation is regulated except the amount of time a company can keep a driver at work without compensation! Corporations will ensure that their lobbyists keep the labor exemptions in place so that they can continue with slave labor wages and tactics!!
I agree with what is said about public traded trucking companies, squeeze the driver so the brass can get their large bonuses. Remember 30+ years ago when rail was through every town...and truckers where busy and made descent money. Trucking companies can charge more for freight and will receive it if they all stick to it and until the drivers stop waiting at shippers and receivers on their own time.
Murray Armstrong Please forgive me as i am a new driver in this industry, and i do plan on going Intermodal when i plan on getting my own rig. Do you mind explaining to me what you mean in your statement? Being one who wants to be an owner operator, i hear there is decent/good money in Intermodal, is this true or am i going the wrong route here (future plan wise)
+Mete Only if you know which Company gives good pay,here is a hint don't work for Swift.There owner operaters make only $5,000. Look for a company that pays you good and you will get good money.
+Mete I have hauled inter modal out of the various ports. There is indeed issues in this type of hauling. The biggest issue are the rail trailers that you will haul the container on. YOU must look these over very carefully and if you see a problem make the port fix it before you leave or you will be responsible for whatever DOT finds or whatever breakdown occurs. Money is ok but usually the deal for the driver is getting home everyday or most everyday with weekends off. There are companies that just deal with ports and you will get your load but it is just not drop and hook most times....look wisely at the companies you are interested in and actually talk to those drivers who pull for them.....
If companies don't pay carriers, how do carriers explain the lavish lifestyle of their CEOs and owners while we the drivers struggling to make a living? BS
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the customers aren’t paying the companies. That’s a good one. I know of a company in Oklahoma that a friend of mine drove with for two weeks. They paid him a 1k to go 1200 miles then told him he was getting 75% of the linehaul. Only when he went into their office someone accidentally gave him a copy of the rate sheet with the confirmation number from customer. Well turns out that load actually paid them 6k. This sort of thing happens regularly
Those people think that drivers are cheap and unskilled labor, because the federal government subsidizes training of new drivers. It is a big scam. All that money goes directly to the pockets of the big guys,
Maybe the solution is actually the death of trucking companies. Right now (2018), supposedly the best paying trucking company to work for is Wal-Mart. On average, they pay their truckers $88,000/year. Possibly that is the future of trucking. Working for the end user hauling their loads instead of using a middleman (e.g., trucking companies). As for why Wal-Mart pays more, it might be because there is a trucker shortage. They pay more and thus truckers come to them and thus at least they (Wal-Mart) doesn't have a trucker shortage or have to deal with trucking companies who suffer from a trucker shortage. If more big retailers were to go this route, maybe that will start to seriously raise trucker pay. This might not end up increasing the pay paid by trucking companies BUT this might result in them essentially being the trucker trainers for retail giants. What you could do is start a quarterly video that just lists the best paying trucking companies and private fleet companies (like Wal-Mart) and that will help push the above. Just a suggestion.
I drove for one year, and I will never do it again. Way too many issues. Drivers are treated like shit in general in America. And the pay sucks. The only way to drive is if you have your own truck and trailer period.. If your an actual company driver then you are allowing yourself to get screwed. I know everyone has to start somewhere, I understand that but after 1 year, you need to be your own driver and just lease out a company. A lot of the drivers that are in the industry is because they have personality issues, namely they don't like being told what to do. So being a truck driver gives you the freedom of not having the boss man constantly looking over your shoulder.
Touche"! and thank you for that outstanding comeback! I see we are unskilled and should expect pay to stagnate? hum seems that has been a trend for years! So a carrier excepts cheap freight, averages it out, pays drivers the same old same old and its the drivers fault. As Mr. Spock would say to Capt. Kirk, "fascinating"! With that kind of attitude among managers and presidents, there may be glut of class 8s sitting on the side of the road in flocks! I boils down to poor management. BTW do you think fed ex or UPS has "cheap freight Mr. Ed? No sir. Their rates are set by their management and demand. Hence they are mega profit makers. I apologize for the lengthy note.
Granted, some people make issues appear to be complex, but the larger trucking companies accept low profit bids and then tell their drivers there's no money. From my perspective if truckng companies told these shippers that they can no longer afford to pull their freight at such low margins, then those same companies will change their stance and pay a higher margin to make sure their products are delivered. Regardless, the driver gets stuck in the middle with no voice or leverage.
yes,Ed sounds like a business owner that has built his business with a revolving door , he pays himself and gives his driver's an excuse, why they won't get paid.and then say ,Next.( Sad)
TBH this economist is on the button - the freight rates are down and if the company gets low rates then in turn the driver do too... I get that's not the drivers fault but if you work there then it is what it is - there are too many drivers and companies and I don't believe there is a "shortage" if there was a shortage then why wouldn't both freight rates and driver rates go up? As for the low skilled portion... I'll say this truckers have a thankless job and they deserve more respect for their profession -
One of the main problems out here is too many Cutthroat companies they refuse to work together and set a rate and not under bid. Then the customer will have no choice but to pay. Trucking companies could charge above the agreed rate by the performance of the trucking outfit. I'm not talking about a rate with a customer. I'm talking about every Trucking outfit in America agrees not to bid under a set rate and signs contract problem solved. Everybody including trucking companies will make money. I love that pipe dream don't y'all.
thank you so much they better pass more because we're going to start unions and will pick it and they get all these guys who don't know how to drive out of school let them go over Rose see how fun it is period we are professionals and we are very highly-skilled I take very much a fence to the guy who said we're not skilled it takes a hell of a lot of skill every day not to hit something or get into an accident it's like it's like an airplane when it lands it's not laying the it's a controlled crash that's all and it is. So we're doing is the same thing pretty much plus trying to get there plus being away from our families and if you add up all the time we probably make just as much as people at Burger King
Just When is that trouble going to start ? We need to stop talking and do something about it. let's putt a strike jam the wheels . But this time let no political leader fool us.
no body will strike.. they dictate to us that we should live in low income housing and eat from a food bank... true? you ask?? yes it is ..ive worked for companies that tell you to lower your houshol expenses as they from there mercedes benz
People compain about them not making money but guess what you are an EMPLOYEE, employees will never make money. Now i feel like this guy looks down on anyone who does not posses a higher education and with all do respect i have friends who gi to harvard,Columbia and other ivy league schools i know guys who work for big law firms and financial firms and have also meet people who only have a h.s doploma and both a highly educated on their respected interest. Also peole need to understand that nothing is fair and if you want to make money you have to go get or all truck drivers could just stop driving if you don't stand together guess what nothing is going to change take a stand and take what is your because as long as you guys keep driving the companies will be taking money from you as long as they can and they will not and do not feel bad about it and you are not going to make them feel bad
I've been screaming is for years and it is exactly why I walked away from this terrible piece of krapp industry a year and a 1/2 ago. And yet these piece of shit, greedy fuck companies STILL stubbornly refuse to pay us hard working drivers (i still feel like I'm with my fellow truck driviers) a good and fair salary. So fuck them, I hope this brings the economy to it's knees and forces these asshole companies to do the right thing, From the shippers and receivers to tge trucking companies.
Not a skilled profession????.....have Ed watch a few videos of "unskilled" drivers trying to back into a dock..... or travel down an icy highway..... or safely load/unload flatbed freight......he will start thinking twice about skilled vs. unskilled!!
I bet .somebody family democratic come out with this stupid letter and call truck drivers as a low education people that is sad. JP hunts one of the largest Trucking in United States, operate by Democratic and their friends that's why they paid him so low.
Laugh if you want but, there is a milk hauler in my area that does just that. The cons have to have a job to comply with their parole and the company basically has them, they can't really quit and get a better job plus the company pays them about half of what the other drivers make. The man is a multi-millionaire because of it too.
There is no shortage of drivers...There are way too many, I was hoping the medical requirement standards would raise and force the unhealthy ones out...But, when ELD is in effect then alot of them will quit.
I was a truck driver and learned very fast that it's a big time waster. Most of these companies don't care that much about you or your family. You can make more money doing something simple like mowing lawns and make more money in less time than driving a truck. I drove for 10 years and the only benefit I got was weight gain and other health related problems. Make no mistake about it...truck driving is a skilled position and most people could not do it or pass the background screening. I stopped driving because of the low pay, long hours and it ruins your health and well being. I would advise you to stop because their is no glory in it. I have over 2 million miles and 2 gold watches. It would have been better to have 2 million dollars for the effort. Hope this helps.
Rich Burnette I don't disagree with one thing you've said, Rich. It sure can be a thankless job, that's for sure.
+Rich Burnette you shoud have made a million dollars in those ten years that you were truck driving.
+Rich Burnette how much did you make in those 10 years in truck driving
+Rich Burnette ....just so you know....in order to drive 2 million miles in 10 yrs...you'd have to be driving 2 hundred thousand miles a year.....for a solo driver, it can't be done!!! In order for a solo driver to do this....they would have to drive 548 miles a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, WITH NO MANDATORY BREAKS OF 34 HRS.....So you might want to correct your log.....just saying....Signed....an actual solo truck driver who has been driving for lot longer than you did.....
Danny Potter and that Danny , is the key to success or failure, simple math.
Time for all North American truck drivers to go on strike. And make our voices heard.
This is the second go around for a problem similar to this it was going on in the 40s the solution was found it was called THE TEAMSTERS UNION! the drivers have to take responsibility for they're own destiny and figure out how to unite and stand up to these low ball scab company's and say no we're not working that cheap!
Kevin Jones get the ATA away from us, their mega company dogs, underbidding every load,
My message to youngsters , A former truck driver from Canada: Please stay out of this business, you can make more money in burger king and McDonald.
Even immigrants are getting out of it, they are realizing that they cant work for peanuts, Just few months back we have a truck driver strike in greater Toronto Area, the minimum wage for trucker here in Ontario is 16-18 bucks an hour
Every thing on the grocery shelf become expensive.
That's fucked up. And to think, my salary at my warehouse job is $12/hr, and it still barely covers what I need to to, and I STILL can't afford health insurance.
But after seeing this video, I'll stick to my warehouse job.
The Numbers don't lie. If you are a company driver, and lets say you make 0.43/mile.
Real world average is, give or take - 3000 miles/70 week per HOS. = $ 1,290/wk - 15%(Ontario payroll tax) = $1096.50 net. divide that by 70 hrs + the extra hours they don't pay you for( waiting,fueling, paperwork etc...) 2 hrs a day x 7 days; 1096.5/ 84 hrs = $13.05 an hour that's what your working for,(Ontario minimum wage is $11.25)
Economic Servitude- PAY TRUCKERS AN HOURLY WAGE!
S Savage :::::: Amen...!
Amen
S Savage .. great insghful numbers breakdown
Funny how the driver do all the hard work and the fleet manager gets the bonus every quarter
Yeah, what's with that?!! Dave
time to eliminate brokers. why cant shippers just post on the load boards
Exactly right! With todays technology, there's no need for load brokers. I could never understand why shippers would give their freight to companies that didn't own any trucks. It's like asking a guy that doesn't own a car, for a ride. Dave
The carrier can't pay the driver because the customer won't pay the carrier? They'll pay the carrier whatever the carrier charges. The freight has to move or the customer doesn't make money. They'll pay whatever the carrier charges so long as it's the cheapest.
This guy must be an "armchair economist". The fact he calls truckers an unskilled labour force means he has a complete disconnect with what goes on in the industry.
Zeviander My sentiments exactly..... a second rate economist with lame theories.
I'm not calling anyone a name *****. You can't possibly be a top level economist or you wouldn't have this theory that doesn't make sense. If you say something like this, I'd expect some reasonable back up. Can you share with us your role in the industry? Name calling? Wow..... trucker professionalism? It's attitudes such as yours which cause so much grief in this industry. Did you read the responses on FB by others in the business to your letter? Perhaps we could get some feedback.
Ed, as someone who worked as a shipper/receiver for almost a year and a half for a huge concession supply company, I can tell you that my manager wanted two things: 1) the shipment to be accurately picked so too avoid reshipping, and 2) the carrier to get it to the customer as fast as possible. Unless we mis-picked something, our customers paid the freight, and they didn't care the cost so long as they got the product in time to sell it.
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Unfortunately the big carriers don't seem to raise their rates with their customers. They would rather cut it to prevent another carrier from getting the freight, regardless of whether they have the capacity. Not having the capacity leads to load brokers who contract with smaller carriers who then give it to a company driver or operator. Of course with every transaction money is taken out but the freight doesn't get moved, until the last. The driver ultimately gets the last piece of (crappy) pie.
The business model is to blame here and needs to be reinvented. I have spoken to several ride sharing companies and have asked them to develop an app for the trucking industry that cuts out the carrier/broker cycle and allows shippers and drivers to communicate directly without carrier/broker interference. An "Uber" style app that guaranteed payment on delivery and lower freight rates (by cutting the fat) is just what the industry needs I believe.
That plus a national shutdown during the next federal election.
BTW try pulling anything over the Rogers or the Coq in chainup conditions, tippy container, empty van, tanker, pups then get out of the cab and call yourself unskilled.
TractorTrailerWorld Yea, man. Well said.:)
Good example, my company about 8 yrars ago booked a load out of Miami Florida going into Chicago now the customer made a mistake and fax the rate confirmation to the carrier instead of the broker now the load that we were told it pays $1,000 for 1000 miles now when company got a confirmation it's sad that the load paid $7,000 and out of that $7,000 the driver was paid only $1,000 for 1000 miles.
Gotta love those brokers. I don't know how they let those crooks into this industry. Nothing but a desk and a phone. Dave
Im doing my training now, but i see this otr is a ripoff long hours low pay... im going back home find something local tbat pays by the hour...They will continue to pay truckers crumbs as long as we let them ... im gonna get 6mths experience and im out!!! Peace
my local company i work for, ruan. they consider working 4 days a week and over 40 to 60 hours a week, they consider that many hours a week part time and dont' pay benefits. when i am working 60 plus hours a week and 5 days, 12 to 14 hour work days. they consider that full time and not over time.
so my question is. are they being injust with the pay in that regard? i know of other local companies who claim they pay for overtime over 40 hours.
also on top of that, they steal money from the driver's checks each week and just tell the driver to fill out a pay descrepancy form if you catch something you did missing off your check. but they steal from all the drivers all the time, and they convolute their pay settlement sheets so it is real hard for the drivers to catch it, or even bother with it.
*And Yet ANOTHER Reason NOT to Pay the Trucker.*
Yes, and when you think you've heard it all, there's yet another excuse that this industry, can't pay decent wages.
I respond to a letter from a UA-cam viewer on why drivers will never get paid what they deserve.
#trucker #truckingindustry #truckdriver
Smart-Trucking.com ,
Yep, unfortunately big companies pay peanuts and there is a crazy turnover of new truck drivers. Its better just to work an office job Mon-Fri and 40 hours.
Smart-Trucking.com ... great response to a writer that seems out of touch.
Smart-Trucking.com, you failed to mention how the breakup of Truckers from their wives are part of the Lion’s share of divorce court cases. The HORROR CHEATING stories I heard while running the hiway for the 19 years I did. Devastating cases of double cross and “Coming home early surprises!!!! Delve into that when you can. The feedback from it will appall you.
So the question then becomes "what is keeping carrier rates so low that they cannot pay their drivers?"
TRUTH....
problem is people willing to drive for less. if more drivers stood up for them selfs and were willing to leave the company they are currently working for. for a better paying job then carrier's would have no choice but to start paying more. I blame the drivers willing to work for 34-36 cents a mile. they need to start holding them selfs to a higher standard and work for companies paying 45-50 cents a mile.
Exactly right! Dave
Absolutely... Trucker's CAN'T WORK FOR FOOD ! So called "corporation" dictates the prices - it's preplanned and manipulated situation just to lower the trucker's pay. On the the top of that we get "so called regulations" to dehumanize trucker's life. I could put dozens of examples here to support what I just said... Any way, if I don't get what I want in the order to support my family and continue my life I just go to another firm and say screw it !!! Nothing to lose anymore... I need to have my life too., as those "dictating, "providing work", "regulating" and so on... If they don't like it, they can have their way - GET ANOTHER RESUME. Fed up with their BS.
PS. These days truckers are the most skilled People in our countries (US & CA, after closing thousands of manufacturing companies with "their perversity & bankruptcies".
our industry is full of get rich quick companys and company owners.. if they cant buy 2 or 3 or more vacation propertys then they get there panties in a knot.. at the same time they force dispatch, dont pay the owner opps insurance or licence yet they take a $5000.00 hold back from the driver and invest his or her money and make away like a bandit.. why 5000 dollars.. plus they dont pay for 45 days...huh??? so they have at any given time over $50,000.00 of your money...again huh?? will you ever see that ?? not likely.. when you quit or leave ? good luck. the company weasels will come up with some excuse not to pay you your money.. how many of you out there in your car driving to the city day in and day out can afford to give up 20,000 clams when you quit your job.. most companys ive worked for are caniving weasels and you dont have a leg to stand on in court..they lie about freight rates and wont show you the actual invoice from the shipper.. guess what .. your getting screwed.. And you company drivers out there who are making .45 cents a mile?? they could pay you double and still make money.But as long as you get a touque and a pair of gloves or maybe a montanas gift card for $50.00 you think your special.. wake the frig up dumb ass..yet these same companies will call you on a sunday afternoon from there cottage and tell you to get to the yard,an emergency load has just popped up and you have to go.. and you run like lemmings to the yard while they hang up the phone and open another bottle of wine.. they retire years later and wonder" hey. what ever happened to old Bill? he was a good driver..Oh he just left the yard with another emergency load..." . yes we are screwed until something happens in our industry..
Man, that's good! Clearly you've been there! Dave
I agree with most of the letter, although I think some of the wording is disrespectful to truck drivers. It's certainly not that truck drivers aren't skilled, it's that the barriers to entry to become a truck driver are fairly low. I see courses that are less than 250 hours to become a truck driver. I'm guessing the training is good enough so that the driver can get from point A to B on dry pavement, which in most carriers' eyes is good enough. If an accident occurs, it's the driver's fault anyway, so the carrier isn't worried too much (someone please correct me if this is incorrect.) The supply of people that can get through a course like this is high, therefore wages will be low. It's not that the carriers can't pay decent wages, it's that they won't because they don't need to. Regarding the shortage of truck drivers, every industry association asserts that their industry needs more people in order to increase the supply of workers in their industry, therefore pushing down wages. If there really was a driver shortage, pay would go up.
Entertainment Unit I agree the letter was slightly disrespectful and yes, if an accident occurs the truck driver is usually blamed. please note there truly IS a driver shortage, note pay increases now starting to be offered by many carriers including Swift and Kriska
Contacted Paper Transport, Inc. looking for a J-O-B. (Just Over Broke)
First thing I asked the recruiter was what a specific trip paid in miles.
I was on the phone and at the computer checking Google maps.
I entered the numbers from address to address.
I was shocked to find out they short their drivers. (Not really shocked)(About 30 miles per day)
I asked why they short their drivers and the BS began flowing.
She said it was because that's the contracts they had negotiated with the shippers.
(Like that was supposed to make it OK)
No, I did not go to work for PTI. If I had gone to work for PTI getting shorted on my pay would've been my fault.
I drive for a FedEx contractor that pays hub miles. Dedicated route. Home everyday.
Smart man to do your homework! Dave
I feel the super carriers have finally cut off their nose to spite their face. They undercut the freight rates and put the smaller carriers out of business. Now, the shippers are used to the cheap rates and won't budge when the super carrier needs an increase to keep up with operating costs. So, instead of upsetting their investors the carrier freezes the driver wages trying to squeeze every penny out of the drivers time. I've worked for two super carriers and always (not really) wondered why dispatch was behind bullet proof glass and code locked doors. The dispatch crew knew the drivers were tired of being treated as POS and were afraid of retribution. Immigrant labor is another problem. I applaud legal immigrants but they don't realize the problems they cause. They work cheap because in their home country what we pay is a gold mine. More super carrier economics.
I agree, I was a truck driver instructor in England, where the standard of driving is high, compared to US and Canada. It has to be as the roads are much smaller and more congested. So the reason I left trucking after 5 years OTR in North America and 20 years in England and Europe was because the hours a driver has to put in to get the load from A to B is not reflected in the pay packet. Cents per mile does not count when you are parked waiting on shippers to get load together, I regularly had to wait hours, both to unload, and reload. This is time the driver donates to his boss. Also after waiting 3, 4, or 5 hours for the load, then to earn a days pay, at cents per mile, you try not to start your log book until you are on the road, then you will be driving tired later in the day. We all know how dangerous that is, and risky, for going to jail to be Bubba's bitch, no thanks.
I drove for 21 years, I quit over 9 years ago and don't miss it at all.
Ronald Reagan deregulated the trucking industry...It still has an impact on it today.. Fuel prices go up,wages stay stagnant.. Carriers of had to go to a fuel surcharge..What about a down time charge.No because it doesn't effect them. Warehouses could careless how long a driver sits. 99% of the time the customer pays for no down time. Because the carrier is scared of loosing the business..It's a catch-22.That doesn't look like it's going to change. City drivers get paid by a time clock.. if over the road truck drivers got paid by the clock they would be millionaires. They need to make more incentive for over the road truck drivers.
If truckers are unskilled labor, put some teenage punk fresh from his burger flipping job behind the wheel and see how that works.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Wandering man Agree !!
sad thing is pay has not keep up with inflation. most companies agree but do nothing about it. crazy yes
i think local jobs are where its at. hourly pay, go home at the end of your shift, shower at home, sleep in your own bed. so many reasons NOT to drive OTR.
Yep. I do local LTL. Tried the OTR bullshit 4 years ago-never again!
Freight vs driver shortage. Consider this fact. Airlines overbook seats. Does this sound familiar? Airlines are part of the transportation industry.
I drive and it's one main thing GREED on the company end...
my husbands an owner operator in Canada..he used the company's trailor.had to pay insurance. the brakes heated up in the winter and the owner had sgi insurance look into the situation..they said not drivers fault..ware was. the owner kept my husbands 1st month pay and his last to pay to replace the brakes..There is no law in Canada that stops the owner of the company from doing this..the lawyer said his costs would be more then getting his pay back..Canada laws do not protect owners operators at all.Drivers be aware!
You're absolutely right Chris! Most carriers now will steal money from you any way they can!
This is all caused by the Federal Reserve, and the banks, Zero interest rates. With Zero interest rates, the largest trucking companies can get trucks for almost nothing, so they get more trucks , and more rookies coming out of schools every day, no experience, equals more wrecks, late deliveries.
owner operator pays top interest on loan, tough to compete. when interest rates go up, truck driving pay will go up as well.
I hate to say it but to an extent the letter guy is correct in some ways. if you are in a city where there are more trucks than freight, the shippers have the upper hand to pay less, because the trucks have to fight one another for the freight, however if there are less trucks in that city than freight available, the rates go up because the shippers have to pay what is needed to get their product moved. the bigger issue here is when the trucking companies make substantial profit off of a particular load, they simply pocket the money as where they base the pay to the driver solely on the lowest profit margin load. that's why as a driver percentage pay is better because as the rate increases, so does your pay as the driver. the sad thing is that truck drivers pay has had no increase based on any rate of inflation in 20 plus years. today a standard company driver makes 50k annually, 20 years ago that annual pay could support a family comfortably; today, you scratch by pay check to pay check. where's our fight for $15? I can't tell you how many days I've sat at shippers or receivers that took 6,7,8 hours or more to load/unloaded, bringing the pay for the day or possibly the week to barely over minimum wage.
I have to agree with the point made about there being an overabundance of truck drivers and that part of the problem truck drivers do not get paid as good as they should be. Reasons behind this are, because when you first sign on as a truck driver you have to go with a large company making basically minimum wage or less if you do the math because you have low experience. The government gives major tax breaks to these large companies that hire rookie driver straight out of school. And because these large companies are paying these new drivers so little and getting a tax break for hiring them they are able to charge very competitive rates app for hauling Freight. The major reason I believe there is an over abundance of truck drivers is due to the lies recruiters for CDL schools and trucking companies that are used to sucker people in. I got into the trucking industry because I was told my first year I would be making 50K easily and after my second year I could make 100K if I busted my butt. So naturally I took it with a grain of salt and estimated that to be exaggerated slightly. Lo and behold it turns out that was exaggerated majorly I still haven't hit 50K a year after 10 years of driving. I think a good solution to the trucking industry problems would be getting paid an hourly rate like most every job out there or a weekly salary that does not fluctuate.
Its not shippers or the trucking companys fault.shippers dont raise and lower freight on a daily basis the brokers do.freight brokering should be done away with in this industry and let the trucking company pursue its own contacts.during a down time shippers dont take advantage for the most part but those brokers are more than willing to slice throats.why wouldnt they tho.they dont have a dog in the race.they dont make product,load product or deliver product.if they make a dollar they are still in the black.ive been on both sides of the phone and its crazy how many people in this industry know not one thing about it other than cashing checks
excellent video!
Thank you! Dave
Poor Ed (writer) knows nothing! I hauled doubles and did dock work for a LTL company, it was the hardest, least paying job, and I left after six weeks! The company was down two injured doubles drivers (workers comp), as well as one driver leaving. The company was so desperate for drivers, they called the 1-800-rent-a-driver. The rental company didn't have any qualified drivers with doubles, tank and hazmat, but we took one driver without endorsements out of desperation! I had to load the rental drivers 53' trailer carefully because of his restrictions, while he napped in the tractor being paid more than me. Then I loaded my two trailers with totes, placed compatible hazmats on each pup, then placarded, hitched, pre tripped, and hauled back.
Some companies will skirt around trying to pay low wages, but in the end, they will pay out for under qualified, high rental driver wages, because they get so desperate. The qualified, hard working company driver may not exist in our future. In the end, we all maybe scab drivers, and companies will be slaves to rental driver agencies, who may or may not have qualified divers!
I always find it so funny how the carriers and customers crying about how they cannot pay a driver what they are worth. I put it this way, 70, 34, 30, 14, 11, 10, 8; pick up and delivery- all of these are the clocks that drivers are subject to. What's missing? PAY!! The fact that everything that involves proper compensation is regulated except the amount of time a company can keep a driver at work without compensation! Corporations will ensure that their lobbyists keep the labor exemptions in place so that they can continue with slave labor wages and tactics!!
So true sister!
if it is a low skilled type of work, then lets see how they feel if we don't deliver the loads for about a month, and see how they feel then
Yup! Dave
Considering that the average city in the US only has a THREE DAY supply of food in the grocery stores located there, this could be VERY interesting.
Terry Tackett now they coming up with those trucks that drive themselves. I hope that don't happen. What you think?
Terry Tackett swift drivers?🤔🤔🤔🤔
Meat in the seat is the motto of trucking...regardless!!! Seems like a dangerous attitude when your putting anyone behind the wheel of a lethal weapon
Gotta agree with that! Well said. Dave
Suprise cooperate America dosent care about people period. Its like that in many industries NOT just trucking. Wake up America. Have a blessed day
I agree with what is said about public traded trucking companies, squeeze the driver so the brass can get their large bonuses. Remember 30+ years ago when rail was through every town...and truckers where busy and made descent money. Trucking companies can charge more for freight and will receive it if they all stick to it and until the drivers stop waiting at shippers and receivers on their own time.
Murray Armstrong exactly right. dave
Murray Armstrong Please forgive me as i am a new driver in this industry, and i do plan on going Intermodal when i plan on getting my own rig.
Do you mind explaining to me what you mean in your statement? Being one who wants to be an owner operator, i hear there is decent/good money in Intermodal, is this true or am i going the wrong route here (future plan wise)
+Mete Only if you know which Company gives good pay,here is a hint don't work for Swift.There owner operaters make only $5,000. Look for a company that pays you good and you will get good money.
+Mete I have hauled inter modal out of the various ports. There is indeed issues in this type of hauling. The biggest issue are the rail trailers that you will haul the container on. YOU must look these over very carefully and if you see a problem make the port fix it before you leave or you will be responsible for whatever DOT finds or whatever breakdown occurs. Money is ok but usually the deal for the driver is getting home everyday or most everyday with weekends off. There are companies that just deal with ports and you will get your load but it is just not drop and hook most times....look wisely at the companies you are interested in and actually talk to those drivers who pull for them.....
Good job. Thx
I drive for a Maryland based trucking company and they don’t pay a living wage. And the living wage is high in Maryland due to taxes.
Time for a different job and tell them why! Dave
Smart Trucking thanks. Considering it. Just feeling this company out.
Mega carriers,the driving force behind cheap freight,have had no problem absorbing high fuel prices and expensive engines brought on by regulations.
If companies don't pay carriers, how do carriers explain the lavish lifestyle of their CEOs and owners while we the drivers struggling to make a living? BS
Exactly! Dave
Thank you
🤣🤣🤣🤣 the customers aren’t paying the companies. That’s a good one. I know of a company in Oklahoma that a friend of mine drove with for two weeks. They paid him a 1k to go 1200 miles then told him he was getting 75% of the linehaul. Only when he went into their office someone accidentally gave him a copy of the rate sheet with the confirmation number from customer. Well turns out that load actually paid them 6k. This sort of thing happens regularly
Yup! Dave
LMAO wait till food like bread, and milk cost $20, lol
This letter was obviously written by somebody or some people who are owners of a big fleet.
Those people think that drivers are cheap and unskilled labor, because the federal government subsidizes training of new drivers. It is a big scam. All that money goes directly to the pockets of the big guys,
Maybe the solution is actually the death of trucking companies. Right now (2018), supposedly the best paying trucking company to work for is Wal-Mart. On average, they pay their truckers $88,000/year. Possibly that is the future of trucking. Working for the end user hauling their loads instead of using a middleman (e.g., trucking companies). As for why Wal-Mart pays more, it might be because there is a trucker shortage. They pay more and thus truckers come to them and thus at least they (Wal-Mart) doesn't have a trucker shortage or have to deal with trucking companies who suffer from a trucker shortage. If more big retailers were to go this route, maybe that will start to seriously raise trucker pay. This might not end up increasing the pay paid by trucking companies BUT this might result in them essentially being the trucker trainers for retail giants.
What you could do is start a quarterly video that just lists the best paying trucking companies and private fleet companies (like Wal-Mart) and that will help push the above. Just a suggestion.
It's a good suggestion and we're working on that right now! Dave
I drove for one year, and I will never do it again. Way too many issues. Drivers are treated like shit in general in America. And the pay sucks. The only way to drive is if you have your own truck and trailer period.. If your an actual company driver then you are allowing yourself to get screwed. I know everyone has to start somewhere, I understand that but after 1 year, you need to be your own driver and just lease out a company. A lot of the drivers that are in the industry is because they have personality issues, namely they don't like being told what to do. So being a truck driver gives you the freedom of not having the boss man constantly looking over your shoulder.
Touche"! and thank you for that outstanding comeback! I see we are unskilled and should expect pay to stagnate? hum seems that has been a trend for years! So a carrier excepts cheap freight, averages it out, pays drivers the same old same old and its the drivers fault. As Mr. Spock would say to Capt. Kirk, "fascinating"! With that kind of attitude among managers and presidents, there may be glut of class 8s sitting on the side of the road in flocks! I boils down to poor management. BTW do you think fed ex or UPS has "cheap freight Mr. Ed? No sir. Their rates are set by their management and demand. Hence they are mega profit makers. I apologize for the lengthy note.
Granted, some people make issues appear to be complex, but the larger trucking companies accept low profit bids and then tell their drivers there's no money. From my perspective if truckng companies told these shippers that they can no longer afford to pull their freight at such low margins, then those same companies will change their stance and pay a higher margin to make sure their products are delivered. Regardless, the driver gets stuck in the middle with no voice or leverage.
in my opinion, sounds like Mike Potter from Melton truck lines.
yes,Ed sounds like a business owner that has built his business with a revolving door , he pays himself and gives his driver's an excuse, why they won't get paid.and then say ,Next.( Sad)
Sounds like all drivers should lay down and let these companies suck on it
TBH this economist is on the button - the freight rates are down and if the company gets low rates then in turn the driver do too... I get that's not the drivers fault but if you work there then it is what it is - there are too many drivers and companies and I don't believe there is a "shortage" if there was a shortage then why wouldn't both freight rates and driver rates go up? As for the low skilled portion... I'll say this truckers have a thankless job and they deserve more respect for their profession -
Shippers probably are paying more but the trucking companies just keep pocketing the money
Sure they do! Dave
Pay could that be because of all the imported drivers. Just like the rest of coorperate America does.
Make Trucking Great Again!
When all truck drivers say enough
.it will happen
5:25 -to- 5:45 AMEN....!
One of the main problems out here is too many Cutthroat companies they refuse to work together and set a rate and not under bid. Then the customer will have no choice but to pay. Trucking companies could charge above the agreed rate by the performance of the trucking outfit. I'm not talking about a rate with a customer. I'm talking about every Trucking outfit in America agrees not to bid under a set rate and signs contract problem solved. Everybody including trucking companies will make money. I love that pipe dream don't y'all.
Agreed! Dave
Let's lay down
there is no money in the industry - there WAS a ton of money in it
I don't want to say its the companys fault, more or less the drivers fault for putting up with it.
where can I buy a shirt I'm one of them highly skilled drivers that should get paid more
Nier 4 years later how do you think the industry is coming along
Poorly. Dave
thank you so much they better pass more because we're going to start unions and will pick it and they get all these guys who don't know how to drive out of school let them go over Rose see how fun it is period we are professionals and we are very highly-skilled I take very much a fence to the guy who said we're not skilled it takes a hell of a lot of skill every day not to hit something or get into an accident it's like it's like an airplane when it lands it's not laying the it's a controlled crash that's all and it is. So we're doing is the same thing pretty much plus trying to get there plus being away from our families and if you add up all the time we probably make just as much as people at Burger King
So many attractive, smart, well-spoken Canadian women on UA-cam! I really should visit up there sometime!
Just When is that trouble going to start ? We need to stop talking and do something about it. let's putt a strike jam the wheels . But this time let no political leader fool us.
no body will strike.. they dictate to us that we should live in low income housing and eat from a food bank... true? you ask?? yes it is ..ive worked for companies that tell you to lower your houshol expenses as they from there mercedes benz
It's way past time to start paying us by the hour.....at the rate of $34/36 an hour....ends all the BS !
People compain about them not making money but guess what you are an EMPLOYEE, employees will never make money.
Now i feel like this guy looks down on anyone who does not posses a higher education and with all do respect i have friends who gi to harvard,Columbia and other ivy league schools i know guys who work for big law firms and financial firms and have also meet people who only have a h.s doploma and both a highly educated on their respected interest.
Also peole need to understand that nothing is fair and if you want to make money you have to go get or all truck drivers could just stop driving if you don't stand together guess what nothing is going to change take a stand and take what is your because as long as you guys keep driving the companies will be taking money from you as long as they can and they will not and do not feel bad about it and you are not going to make them feel bad
A natuonwide Trucker stroje wojsk clear it up fast when the pencil pushers don't have food or for that matter anything in the stores.
Nationwide trucker strike I mean
I agree with you. Dave
All jobs pay roughly the same as they did in the 70s. The amount is higher, but it is basically adjusted because of inflation. That is all industries.
I've been screaming is for years and it is exactly why I walked away from this terrible piece of krapp industry a year and a 1/2 ago. And yet these piece of shit, greedy fuck companies STILL stubbornly refuse to pay us hard working drivers (i still feel like I'm with my fellow truck driviers) a good and fair salary. So fuck them, I hope this brings the economy to it's knees and forces these asshole companies to do the right thing, From the shippers and receivers to tge trucking companies.
I use truck driver but after get pay 10 dollars per hour for years i quite
low skilled,when i was driving,we TRAINED constantly!!!!!!!
Not a skilled profession????.....have Ed watch a few videos of "unskilled" drivers trying to back into a dock..... or travel down an icy highway..... or safely load/unload flatbed freight......he will start thinking twice about skilled vs. unskilled!!
thank jimmy carter
with driver less Tec really starting to become a reality. truck drivers and taxi drivers are going to be hit hard.
I bet .somebody family democratic come out with this stupid letter and call truck drivers as a low education people that is sad. JP hunts one of the largest Trucking in United States, operate by Democratic and their friends that's why they paid him so low.
maybe someone should put Ed behind the wheel and see how long he.ll last!!! Bet not to long.
I think Swift recruits ex cons
I think they'll recruit anybody with a pulse including the blind. Dave
Laugh if you want but, there is a milk hauler in my area that does just that. The cons have to have a job to comply with their parole and the company basically has them, they can't really quit and get a better job plus the company pays them about half of what the other drivers make. The man is a multi-millionaire because of it too.
There is no shortage of drivers...There are way too many, I was hoping the medical requirement standards would raise and force the unhealthy ones out...But, when ELD is in effect then alot of them will quit.