Flames intensify as pipeline fire in Deer Park lingers
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- More than two hours into the pipeline fire in Deer Park, the flames appear to be intensifying. Bob Cavnar, an oil & gas expert shares his insight as we continue to learn more.
Think of it as a big flare. You don't cut the flame, need to burn off the gas. Otherwise, if you put out the flame, you'll have unburned gas, looking for an ignition source, then you'll see a really big explosion. They'll just burn off the gas.
Thank you for this information...
I really do hope that that is what they are doing...
Encouraging indeed...
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My dad worked an old and gas for years. My.
Thought is they usually that these things burn off. They shut off the valve farther down and then let the rest of the fuel in the pipeline.Burn off cause it's the safest way to deal with it. I'm sure this guy's an expert, And I am not. But I have seen other pipelines do similar things where they shut off the flow but let the remaining fuel burn off because it actually Is is the safest way to deal with it.
So has Ted Cruz left for Cancun yet?
Fire is located here currently:
29°39'52.8"N 95°06'06.8"W
Great research
what was the car/owner doing there?
It's very strange, but there is a car inside the fenced perimeter
He was playing with matches.
Kinda looks like a person on the ground
Years ago I lived near there and we had a similar situation. Turned out to be acetylene pipeline. Much different than natural gas or propane. This looks similar in color.
But why don't they just turn the valve off when this happens???
Homes and Businesses are so close to this pipeline. That's crazy.
Literally in their back yard. That can't be healthy on a normal day.
pipelines are literally in millions of backyards, I'm afraid
They don't know who the pipeline belongs to 🤷♀️ wow...
They do
Deregulations are cool like that
notice how they ignored that question
I can assure you the pipeline owner does, or he could be in serious problems for not knowing.
Need an oil and gas pipeline expert. Just give a call to Hunter B, he is an oil and gas pipeline expert.
Well texas is proudly republican, aren't all you Coal Rollin morons pro fossil fuel experts? Drill baby drill, with no oversight and no regulation you get what you ask for. I'm sure those repuglican homeowners love the fact that their property value just dropped to 0. Noone will EVER buy those houses. Sounds like red state failure to me!
say that they dont know who owner of the pipeline is so stupid, like want to cover up
Expect the FBI at your door. FJB and his supporters.
@@danielmackay8099 oh, take it easy man. You need to conserve your energy to work and send trumpo money. He is going to need it
@@stevecruise6353 As you watch society decline, the economy crumble, the border overwhelmed, our foreign policy causing unnecessary wars, you still go after Trump, someone like you is too uneducated and stupid to ever be given any type of power.
I'm just thinking... This fire has been burning at 1,000° for 8 hours and that car isn't melting like the "forest fires" in Hawaii
I doubt the thinking was of any use... Foremost the car, if made of metal, won't melt at 1000°c or even 1200°c, but as you can clearly see, the car is completely burned out.
Metal melts at around, 1400°c... A forest fire can reach those temperatures if there is a lot of wind...
Instead of deleting this comment they referred it to a expert. 😮
It's been fours hours and they don't know who it belongs to or what is burning? Great job government.
This is a major underground pipeline ROW. There is likely well over a dozen if not more underground lines. Go Google map 8742 Spencer Hwy in Deerpark Texas. Figuring out which exact one has ignited may be difficult due to lack of access.
They know who's it is. They're most likely waiting for it to burn out (valves US and DS shut the section in)
Of course they do !!!!
Governor Abbott regulation policies don't have a leg to stand on.
@@debbiblakesleethey announced it’s a Energy Transfer line. It’s Natural Gas Liquids (NGL)
This is like the Edison, NJ pipe line fire and how it took them hours to turn off the supply, after the safety valve did not turn off.
Crazy how gas prices have been dropping like crazy, and then this happens, and it rises 50¢ again.
Convenient.
That's some crazy pressure we have running under our homes. 😮
yeah, even the homes that do not use the gas are still potentially in direct range of the possible dangers
Chill
Yes it can be very scary. The fire in San Bruno SF was a high pressure natural gas line that exploded down a residential street.
@@Moondoggy1941 There was the one that poured thousands of gallons of gasoline down a creek bed until it found an ignition, and killed 2 kids
@@MikeBarbarossa Yes that was horrible, I just watched the documentary about it, it was amazing that only two died, but. a horrible death it was. so sad.
"If I was the president this wouldn't of never happened, i could of prevented by thinking about it" 😂
That flame looks more normal than the one from the chopper! Crazy that they can't shut it off already. Something is off! is there any loss of life at the plant? Its soooooo hot!!!!
In a situation like this id depends on how far the closets shut off valve is, if it is 5 miles a way you still have to bleed down 5 miles of stuff. If you have multiple place where other pipelines join in they have to be shutoff as well. This is stand around and what for the cavalry to come in and hope and pray your foreman knows what the hell he is doing. The worst thing about these kinda of situation upper management gets involved and just screw everything up, because basically they have no idea on what to do so they start looking at the book. The foreman know they will get blamed for upper managements delays and decisions, it is part of the territory.
Looks like the playground from 2nd Terminator
09:06 How it that this city allowed a pipeline to exist without knowing who the owner is, what their contact information is (ie. name, physical address & working phone #). This city should be asking some serious question next Election Day of their Mayor for starters and their representatives.
They know who’s it is
Care to mention which pipe then?@@mrfirefighter360
Of course they know. Every utility company must have atlas or other means of mapping/locating their pipes and other appurtenances, such as valves and services. They gotta isolate the affected section (hope is not to long of a section and pipe diameter rather small) between working valves, so the fuel can consume faster to allow for repairs.
If they have not done the basics, they suck and should/must be severely penalized.
@@Intense_Cloud Did you listen to 09:06? It said they did not know who the pipeline belonged to……. A major impropriety to say the least. They should have known by this time, the pipe had been burning long enough.
And I agree, “they suck and should/must be severely penalized, including the Mayor and the legislature for allowing this serious oversight.
@@mrfirefighter360 Did you listen to 09:06? It said they did not know who the pipeline belonged to……. A major impropriety to say the least. They should have known by this time, the pipe had been burning long enough.
There are several pipelines in that corridor. Could they get hot enough to explode too? Why is there a compact passenger car next to the fire? Any markings on the door?
Yes I can read it :" U La La !" Local ice cream.
Wow, that's hot. Even poles hundreds of feet away are smoking.
ya I saw that....
Material failure or sabotage?
material wear out as winter are colder and summers are excessively hot. No wonder. Poor Texas exposed to such climate exces.
Hopefully sabotage b/c we need some of our leadership replaced for sure. They have ignored their people for too long.
Deregulation leading to material-based failure, I'd assume
What it's gas.
You see it flowing like a racing star!
Not one word about the affected deer, in Deer Park.
What about the wrecked car with parts of the car up near the pipeline
Some may like gas over electric. Lived in GA for a bit and so many apartments were blowing up, news never said why. My apt, gas crew came to turn it on. Dude bent the gas line at 90 deg and ripped off 2 prior RED tags. Scariest thing, used dryer 2x's mnth.
This “expert” is still saying that the manifold that was hit by that car isn’t natural gas because of the smoke color. I wouldn’t listen to this guy about anything.
Yellow flame is caused by incomplete combustion, the flame will never come out perfectly blue like a gas stove.
Some of these pipelines have jet fuel in them, oil, natural gas and other, I do not live in Texas.
@@Moondoggy1941 It’s literally labeled NGL.
@@HappyHarryHardon Ok great so it has been confirmed it is NG now the news is stating that it is LNG that I highly doubt.
Texas really sucks at doing energy, especially for the oil and gas state
Our leaders are thieves & won't give us a government.
WHY IS THE WALMART NEXT TO IT STILL OPEN?!?! WHY IS NO ONE MENTIONING THAT?!?!
there is a car parked there were they doing maintenace or inspection on it at time pipe line blew
The car and the fence is destroyed!
This happened in Coolidge, Arizona a couple of years back. Underground gas pipeline ruptured and killed a couple of people.
Oh wow right along one of your favorite STROADS!!!!!😁
This is incredible
The reg stations break down the gas pressure from “ transmission pressure to delivery pressures , can be from 600psi down to 60 psi
Looks like the exposure is over-saturated too.
That is a different problem , from La Port Texas .
Laporte chrr...
@@user-go8vi5lb6u I don’t know . Google it . But by all indications , that location has two names . Confusing as hell .
@@user-go8vi5lb6u It's kinda the border area between the two. It's DP/LP
Used to run freight from LA Porte to Denver and SLC. Fun run.
Why the water hose is on the houses roofs instead of on the fire?
The roofs are melting.
If you put the fire out then you have a bunch of hot explosive gas leaking out instead that will lead to a massive multi block leveling explosion. Instead they've shut the pipe on both ends and are burning off all the fuel in the line, which on a long segment can be a long time.
@@petergraphix6740 It probably wouldn't change the taste of the water.
We need firefighters asap
It's blowing higher from the ground.
Maybe thinning.
Building permits near Liquid Natural Gas pipelines are subject to specific regulations and requirements, including notifications to property owners and adherence to safety guidelines. Find out if the builders have informed the homeowners. If they have, then the homeowners have acknowledged the risk, although it remains an unfortunate situation.
Be glad it's the NGL n not the Petroleum one.
Gas is far too dangerous to use within two miles of a residential zone.
How did a car crash into the pipeline area or a valve in the secured area or is it even secured.
Energy Transfer is the company and it has had multiple pipeline fires including one in 2022. Pretty sure they weren't even fined $1 million. Some of these fires burn over 2 months like in 2023 in Harris County
Look at the fence is all tore up and the car is trashed!
Hood of car is in the field
There was a playground good thing kids were not playing there.
That’s detailed reporting about the owner’s dog
That is definitely a natural gas fire.
Are there many deer in deer park?
No
WHO'S CAR???
About 120 yrs ago when the oil well did this, the oilmen used something to stop it. I can't recall but it put out those Fires. It was highly dangerous, if you dropped it you n Whoever would be poof. They need this here now.
Got to ask is why is there a car parked right up next to the fence which surrounds that gas pipeline control point ????.
And people wonder why people protest against pipelines. Standing rock knew these things burst all the time.
They're actually pretty safe but sometimes accidents do happen
Looks like a regulator station, may have had a regulator failure. On high pressure systems gas can ignite through static electricity.
How is ownership not known. I have a 12" LNG pipeline a 1000' ft from my house. Sunoco sent me a notice that it is there and phone number if I need to contact them. The pipeline map online for Ohio indicates the ownership and size. Maybe the ambiguity is just a Texas thing.
This is an Energy Transfer pipeline @ Deerpark
I would think that the pipeline owner/operator would see a decrease in the pressure. One of the other commenters mentioned that the gas would have to burn off.
Where's Deer Park? Poor reporting
I wonder if some idiot/system upstream saw the pressure drop and increased flow
"If you see any drop in pressure, crank it up, mf!" - type of deal at the centre of operations.
It looks like who ever was driving that car deliberately ran into the pipeline u can see that the gate was busted through
THAT ONE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE IT IS ON FIRE BUT THE ONLY WATER THAT IS BEING PUT ON IT IS FROM A TRUCK WAY BEHIND IT. I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE HOME OWNERS THAT HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY WILL HAVE A HOME OR NOT.
A friend of mine that lives 2 miles from site. She told me she read it's a liquid gas pipeline.
According to Google Maps, there's also a Chik-Fil-A and a Whataburger, which plays into a sadistic scenario should the seeming female driver have been 'handled' or 'induced' with a, say, heart failure. Some people wonder how high up controlling mechanisms go, per se. just an observation.
probably, pipes line need a chance of material selling for sellers business. I would think it's deeper investigation and make them accountability. What's the responsibility.
Don't they have to shud down compressors and plants first? And that car with front damage and gate bent on ground looks suspect.
The car and the busted gate are a little sus
Why doesn't the news chopper do a zoom in on the actual spot and the vehicle.
No.anchors, who was driving that car???!!!
Where is this
Welcome to Texas where big oil runs the show.
It's ridiculous that it's burning for 4 hours and it's right in the middle of a residential area. And no one knows anything about it yes welcome to Texas.
Come on guys. The inspectors can wait until Dawn. I Don't Care if it's deer park, Bambi isn't there.
do not be within 600 ft of that flame or you will be charcoal. mega hot. look how far back the FD is, and they have protection. do not park in that Walmart parking lot
don't they have a shutoff valve?
Always Texas with this kind of stuff. Maybe they should stop letting oil and gas regulate themself.
Who says oil and gas regulate themselves besides you? Even in Texas there are all kinds of state and federal safety regulations. Have you heard of OSHA.
It looked kind of like a Chupacabra to me.
Are not the valves on computer monitors and can be controlled remotely?
The space between the valves can contain tens of thousands of gallons of product that has to be burned off.
Going to need a few power poles
PLEASE TELL ME THERE HAS TO BE SOME SHUTOFF VALVE THAT ANYONE CAN TURN???!!!
Looks like it getting ready to hollow.
Everything is fine. Folks go back inside.
That looks like a scene from a disaster movie. 😮
Where the firefighters ??? They just went to NRG TO PICK UP CHECKS . CANT THEY PUT THIS FIRE OUT ?
I only see a few firefighters
There are 2 one is the main one, it appears that there is a 2nd one going as well
where is deer park ??? stupid,,, is it really difficult to mention a state after ---deer park ?? you guys so lame
If you have a drone you'd see deer park always has a huge fire burning. South east Houston.
This is Texas 🎵
Its a local news station so
Pray 4 Texas oil and gas
Why, normal Texans don't see that money.
@@SlackerU I was just being a troll lol
Who would live that close to an oil field?
It's a NATURAL GAS PIPELINE...NOT an OIL FIELD 🤦♀️
We have to investigate very distally to bring the responsibles to pay... For this incident...
Certainly!
They just dodged THAT question about the company name !!!! Why !!!!!
Notice the car near or at the scene looks like a staged attack?
I hope not. 😮
The fact that this has been allowed to burn for so long should tell you all you need to know.
The fence on one side is pushed in and the other side where the car is, is pushed out. That car wrecked into it. Accident or purpose I don’t know.
How do you know it wasn't just a maintence person checking something and an accident occurred?
@@GFSwinger1693 look at the fence and thats not a typical a maintenance type vehicle. It’s a crossover.
Normal occurrence in Texas😂
Drill baby drill right?
Prison time violations for sure.
Doubt it, it's probably owned by a cousin of a commissioner or something. He'll probably get relief funds or something.
Any cats or dogs need sheltering, asking for a Haitian friend.
How close are all of the other pipelines . Humm. Could. The other pipelines . Go up in flames 🔥 and Humm. 😊
Thanks, Abbot
Who thinks it was an honest accident?
I've seen a few natural gas pipeline burns, but this one is awful black for liquid nature gas. Its a 20" line, probably running 600 psi.
Houses were on fire ..
Call Red Adair...
i think this is an energy transfer co pipeline
25:00 Yes, I'm sure they are 😏
Can somebody please post the street address or nearby street address
8472
Spencer Highway
Deer Park Texas.
You're welcome.
No one seems to know where to find the turnoff valves... 😲