I'm not even remotely done leveling up the six new glyphs and I killed level 107 Butcher in about 7 seconds with your build. I think it freaking works lol. I haven't even planted Chip yet I have it at level 13 waiting for it to be 15. This build works folks.
Exploiters aspect is absolutely necessary for PvP as a rouge. I run a very similar build. But man thorns barbs are starting to get more annoying then hota. You’ll kill your self vs thorns a lot lol
Hmm I thought thorns barbs were going to be a problem, but so far I either don't have an issue with them or haven't run into a single one, hard to believe I haven't come across one yet with as much pvp as I've done.
just in case you didn't know but the aspects and paragon nodes that give you benefits against elites, don't work in PvP right now. Tested it with the paragon board and aspect of protector multiple times but they to have either stealth nerfed it with the latest patch or just bugged it.
@@unpolished6296 They're 100% not working. My source is myself and countless others who had their barrier pop when attacking an elite (aka other player), and now it doesnt pop.
Hi Bro, nice guide. May i know for deadly ambush rare note "CUNNING", why did you take that and what is considered a trap? Since we are not using poison / death trap?
This build is insane. I've been working on it already. I have noticed already that having damage reduction gear seems to offset not having +10% to armor on pieces. I had one thing though I wanted to ask about why Turf and Chip instead of having Tracker as well for bonus poison damage. I have Turf, Combat, Exploit, Efficacy and Bane all at max levels and Tracker is at 15. Chip I would have to level up from 1 but I will. Just wondering if Tracker could be fit into this without is messing with the magic for one of the other glyphs? Could you say replace Chip with Tracker or one of the other glyphs or is it just super important to have both Turf and Chip to make this work?
I mean they're not absolutely required. Chip increases TBs base damage which increases the poison damage when we use poison imbue, and turf is nice because we're always fighting up close and that damage reduction is really nice to have
If they're Twisting blades they're using the Daze node of twisting blades paired with the passive that knocks down enemies if you crit while they are dazed.
Dam cuz lol did this build and uh it was a joke against bulwark druids either u knoe the secret to beating them or nothing does enough dmg against it right now its hella stupid and u dont regen energy at all when their shield is up iono but blizz? Hello is this a bug?
why are you going for Legendary Node on Tricks of the trade board? any why is noone taking Cunning Stratagem board? the core dmg rare nodes seem so nice, no?
We're combo points so we are constantly alternating between marksman and cutthroat skills, Core damage is all additive, while the legendary node is a multiplier so it will give us far more damage
Wouldn't rank in exploit be better considering poison snapshot and you'll try to poison someone when they're still healthy (or try to finish off someone when they're injured and starting to run away)? Poison imbuement should get the full benefit of exploit if you put it near the start of the fight.
With weapon mastery we get the 15%x to healthy cuz of our dagger and also get the 9%x to our global damage because of our sword so we get a better bonus from weapon mastery.
@@dashanzo Oh I wasn't suggesting to get exploit in your amulet, but rather to put more than 1 point in exploit to begin with. I'm not convinced Malice is actually better than Exploit in PvP when you're snapshotting poison early. You tend to need the dps either at high health to snapshot the poison or at low health if they panic and try to run. Exploit is already a higher dps increase than Malice (18% over 55% of the healthbar vs 9% over 100%) but in PvP with Poison Imbuement specifically I would assume Exploit gets even better in comparison.
@@dashanzo do you normally pop it as the first thing after you get cc'ed or only when you run out of shadow step ? Basically what s the best timing to use it ?
@@fernandolamasalban4502 the pvp zones can be super laggy when they have a lot of people there, you can turn off cross play to make it not nearly as laggy if you are on pc but you won't run into nearly as many players
Maybe this is what I was looking for. I started pvp a bit yesterday as I was bored, could beat a lot of others lvl 100 but yeah barb are insanely hard to beat. Still using a Twisting Blade build, but I am not pushing high keys anymore, all I do for the most part is carry my guildmates through mid-tier nm dungeons, so about tier 50 max. Do you think this build would allow me to still run these in an efficient way?
Check out my other builds for a good NM build, I'd recommend doing the icy shadow, can swap between the pvp and shadow build pretty easily. I haven't tried to do nm dungeons with this build but I don't think it'd be very good for it
Just finished to grind these red dust shards, I unlocked everything, the gear transmog set and alll of the stable guy stuff. Your build did help a lot, thx! Not doing this again in season, anyway the character will come on the eternal realm after so all these will be unlocked for 'em as well except the transmog I guess.
I am interested in following this topic. I have seen some use amulet of protector and others use artist of escape, would it be more profitable to add life and defense and let the poison do the damage by itself? I will be attentive to the new modifications to the pvp. I subscribe and be able to test these changes thank you
Amulet we have to have exploiters, it's an insane damage increase against most classes. In order to have the poison do all the damage we would have to change our paragon board and gear too much, this is just a simple build that we can swap to from our pve setup when we want to pvp.
@@anltaktak5639 depends on the class you're fighting, if you're up against a druid or barb you'll never get that stun off. Having the faster cooldown is better imo
Not many pvp videos online, and on the forums people refuse to help cause they dont want to give up good builds to get owned by their own medicin. Pretty good video but you're kinda missing out on a lot. Since u try to help people with pvp, I will do the same here and I will point out 2 things not to spoil all the fun with improving your build on your own. First of all. You have about 130% too much crit damage as in PVP, crit damage is capped at 150% Second off all theres way better aspects you should use, the armor 50% one is bad for pvp and the elite=players isnt true anymore. Theres more but you will figure it out as you play and try new things. Gl bro
Appreciate it, but the goal of the vid wasn't really to make the best pvp build for rogue, wanted to put something together that I can swap to without draining the bank on respects and stuff
Ive played poison (poison is my main dmg and i have 780 daggers) for 3 days straight and basically never die, if I do somehow I get them back about 20x over till the change lobby. I clean out the lobbies all the time and get jumped 2v1 and 3v1 all the time and still murk everyone. Poison build is really good, never lose, hota, sorcs, other rogues, druids, necros. They all die. Theres much better aspects to use the these.
Pretty solid setup but rogue still has something crazy busted in PvP you're not taking advantage of here. Haven't come across anyone who knows about it yet. Think it gets patched out once enough people figure it out
I kinda feel like bro is trolling. I'd like to try some pvp on rogue and not get erased, drop the info for a minute than delete the comment if ur a real one.
@@jixer1495Probably talking about the aspect that works well against idiots aka 95% of all players in the world pvp zone. But most good players just avoids it until its over. I still use it for roaming, but not in duels.
Yeah at times it's not very fun, especially when the area is super laggy. But as Stompin said, when you're evenly geared it's a lot more fun and you have longer fights.
I'm not even remotely done leveling up the six new glyphs and I killed level 107 Butcher in about 7 seconds with your build. I think it freaking works lol. I haven't even planted Chip yet I have it at level 13 waiting for it to be 15. This build works folks.
1:54 Helmet
1:59 Chest
2:07 Gloves
2:27 Pants
2:33 Boots
2:41 Amulet
3:00 Rings
3:12 Weapons
just finished the set up for this build. gonna have a crack now!
Exploiters aspect is absolutely necessary for PvP as a rouge. I run a very similar build. But man thorns barbs are starting to get more annoying then hota. You’ll kill your self vs thorns a lot lol
Hmm I thought thorns barbs were going to be a problem, but so far I either don't have an issue with them or haven't run into a single one, hard to believe I haven't come across one yet with as much pvp as I've done.
Wasnt exploiters confirmed to not work in pvp. Pretty sure its still that way
just in case you didn't know but the aspects and paragon nodes that give you benefits against elites, don't work in PvP right now. Tested it with the paragon board and aspect of protector multiple times but they to have either stealth nerfed it with the latest patch or just bugged it.
Still?
@@unpolished6296 ye since the latest patch, anything related to elites don’t work in PvP right now
@@ZeXeeD7 do you have a proper source . Because I have the feeling that some are working still
@@unpolished6296 which ones are working. I don’t have a video source but I tested the aspects and paragon nodes multiple times with friends
@@unpolished6296 They're 100% not working. My source is myself and countless others who had their barrier pop when attacking an elite (aka other player), and now it doesnt pop.
Can this deal with hota barbs with the chain skill? I met 2 of them camping at the entrance of a pvp zone and they were killing people non stop
Hey great video, I was wondering why we added Cunning Rare node when we don't have any trap skills?
Other players considered elites has been bugged since launch and not working
Hi Bro, nice guide. May i know for deadly ambush rare note "CUNNING", why did you take that and what is considered a trap? Since we are not using poison / death trap?
Ah just for the strength, sorry for stupid question.
I dont get why you have might aspects both in helm and pants though.
Why are you using weapon mastery. I thought it requires 2 of the same weapon for the bonus…?
Could you make a leveling video lol I’m stuck on that alt character grind rn
I plan to for the season start!
This build is insane. I've been working on it already. I have noticed already that having damage reduction gear seems to offset not having +10% to armor on pieces. I had one thing though I wanted to ask about why Turf and Chip instead of having Tracker as well for bonus poison damage. I have Turf, Combat, Exploit, Efficacy and Bane all at max levels and Tracker is at 15. Chip I would have to level up from 1 but I will. Just wondering if Tracker could be fit into this without is messing with the magic for one of the other glyphs? Could you say replace Chip with Tracker or one of the other glyphs or is it just super important to have both Turf and Chip to make this work?
I mean they're not absolutely required. Chip increases TBs base damage which increases the poison damage when we use poison imbue, and turf is nice because we're always fighting up close and that damage reduction is really nice to have
@@dashanzo Terrific leveling up Chip now!
so is this build good for PVE as well? what do you change to since you mentioned you use this for pvp and pve? and is this good for lilith too?
Lilith use the poison pools aspect, and for pve I was using my icy shadow build, but atm playing my flurry build!
@@dashanzo did you post a video of your pve build?
@@dashanzowould love to see the flurry build
Could we use a different glyph instead of Bane since poison isn't really our main damage anyway?
The thumbnail 😂😂
Why are we putting paragon points into trap skills here? 👀
Can someone explain how the other rouges does stun lock? I’m always on the ground!😢
If they're Twisting blades they're using the Daze node of twisting blades paired with the passive that knocks down enemies if you crit while they are dazed.
Dam cuz lol did this build and uh it was a joke against bulwark druids either u knoe the secret to beating them or nothing does enough dmg against it right now its hella stupid and u dont regen energy at all when their shield is up iono but blizz? Hello is this a bug?
why are you going for Legendary Node on Tricks of the trade board? any why is noone taking Cunning Stratagem board? the core dmg rare nodes seem so nice, no?
We're combo points so we are constantly alternating between marksman and cutthroat skills, Core damage is all additive, while the legendary node is a multiplier so it will give us far more damage
@@dashanzo alright, thanks 🙂
Wouldn't rank in exploit be better considering poison snapshot and you'll try to poison someone when they're still healthy (or try to finish off someone when they're injured and starting to run away)? Poison imbuement should get the full benefit of exploit if you put it near the start of the fight.
With weapon mastery we get the 15%x to healthy cuz of our dagger and also get the 9%x to our global damage because of our sword so we get a better bonus from weapon mastery.
@@dashanzo Oh I wasn't suggesting to get exploit in your amulet, but rather to put more than 1 point in exploit to begin with.
I'm not convinced Malice is actually better than Exploit in PvP when you're snapshotting poison early. You tend to need the dps either at high health to snapshot the poison or at low health if they panic and try to run.
Exploit is already a higher dps increase than Malice (18% over 55% of the healthbar vs 9% over 100%) but in PvP with Poison Imbuement specifically I would assume Exploit gets even better in comparison.
Hi can you please explain why shadow clone helps against Hota Barbs ?
5 seconds of unstoppable
@@dashanzo do you normally pop it as the first thing after you get cc'ed or only when you run out of shadow step ? Basically what s the best timing to use it ?
@@inventingabetteryou9210 it's situational, against hota barb I'd say yeah pop it as soon as you engage them
Why im mega lagged in pvp zone?
@@fernandolamasalban4502 the pvp zones can be super laggy when they have a lot of people there, you can turn off cross play to make it not nearly as laggy if you are on pc but you won't run into nearly as many players
Maybe this is what I was looking for. I started pvp a bit yesterday as I was bored, could beat a lot of others lvl 100 but yeah barb are insanely hard to beat. Still using a Twisting Blade build, but I am not pushing high keys anymore, all I do for the most part is carry my guildmates through mid-tier nm dungeons, so about tier 50 max. Do you think this build would allow me to still run these in an efficient way?
Check out my other builds for a good NM build, I'd recommend doing the icy shadow, can swap between the pvp and shadow build pretty easily. I haven't tried to do nm dungeons with this build but I don't think it'd be very good for it
@@dashanzo Will do, thanks for the quick reply, appreciate it.
Just finished to grind these red dust shards, I unlocked everything, the gear transmog set and alll of the stable guy stuff. Your build did help a lot, thx! Not doing this again in season, anyway the character will come on the eternal realm after so all these will be unlocked for 'em as well except the transmog I guess.
I am interested in following this topic. I have seen some use amulet of protector and others use artist of escape, would it be more profitable to add life and defense and let the poison do the damage by itself? I will be attentive to the new modifications to the pvp. I subscribe and be able to test these changes thank you
Amulet we have to have exploiters, it's an insane damage increase against most classes. In order to have the poison do all the damage we would have to change our paragon board and gear too much, this is just a simple build that we can swap to from our pve setup when we want to pvp.
@@dashanzo thnx for answer , i Will be alert
Yeeeeaaaaaaa
can this build beat druid with barrier ?
what about penitent boots? isnt it good? also in your website build there is penitent greaves.
Just updated it, but having an extra shadowstep is super important so it's just better to run legendary boots.
@@dashanzo what about stun effect on shadow step? Stun is huge thing in pvp especially if you have 2 stacks
@@anltaktak5639 depends on the class you're fighting, if you're up against a druid or barb you'll never get that stun off. Having the faster cooldown is better imo
So you think non Season lvl 100 pvp is a thing for a longer Term? I
I'm sure there will be a community for pvp, not sure how big that community will be haha
Refresh build for s1 ?
Working on it, gotta get to level 100 so I can properly test things to have a proper update! But it's coming!
Not Rally. But its ok
does pvp have a crit damage cap? I keep seeing people mention its 150% but theres no info / tooltip on it.
I haven't seen anything like that. I'll have to look into it but I don't think there is.
@@dashanzo if you have significsntly over 150% already maybe can just see if like 400% and 150% do same damage? Have to setup a duel
I have heard about this, personally I keep ~300% but I socket purple gems for more dot dmg
I want to make a pvp character that just targets barbs. They get away with too much!
Not many pvp videos online, and on the forums people refuse to help cause they dont want to give up good builds to get owned by their own medicin.
Pretty good video but you're kinda missing out on a lot.
Since u try to help people with pvp, I will do the same here and I will point out 2 things not to spoil all the fun with improving your build on your own.
First of all. You have about 130% too much crit damage as in PVP, crit damage is capped at 150%
Second off all theres way better aspects you should use, the armor 50% one is bad for pvp and the elite=players isnt true anymore.
Theres more but you will figure it out as you play and try new things.
Gl bro
Appreciate it, but the goal of the vid wasn't really to make the best pvp build for rogue, wanted to put something together that I can swap to without draining the bank on respects and stuff
What aspects do you run?
How to beat barb hota
I really don't like poison for pvp, unless youv3 got massive overkill, the big boiw just heal through
The point of it is to mainly decrease their damage, most of our damage isn't from the poison itself, just gives us good benefits
@dashanzo thats an interesting take, I'll sub for that.
Ive played poison (poison is my main dmg and i have 780 daggers) for 3 days straight and basically never die, if I do somehow I get them back about 20x over till the change lobby. I clean out the lobbies all the time and get jumped 2v1 and 3v1 all the time and still murk everyone.
Poison build is really good, never lose, hota, sorcs, other rogues, druids, necros. They all die.
Theres much better aspects to use the these.
@@guest0046build recommendation?
Pretty solid setup but rogue still has something crazy busted in PvP you're not taking advantage of here. Haven't come across anyone who knows about it yet. Think it gets patched out once enough people figure it out
Explain.
Is it flurry rogue? Flurry rogue has some pretty crazy CC and Life sustain
I kinda feel like bro is trolling. I'd like to try some pvp on rogue and not get erased, drop the info for a minute than delete the comment if ur a real one.
@@jixer1495Probably talking about the aspect that works well against idiots aka 95% of all players in the world pvp zone. But most good players just avoids it until its over.
I still use it for roaming, but not in duels.
Is it the trickery malignant heart?? The one that sets up the decoy?
Bar just one shot me without any chance
I just got rekt by this build 😂
i like pvp but without loadouts its damn annyoing to spec everytime to pve or pvp
I feel you on that. Hoping they add an armory or some way we can save skill trees/paragon boards to swap quickly😭
@@dashanzo D3 has loadout mechanism but here they decided to make only for cosmetics at the moment. Lmao.
One could wonder why so much crit damage since it's capped at 150% in pvp
BOYS! There’s only ONE answer…….
#nerfbarb 😅
this is even more broken than hota
man pvp seems awful just oneshotting other people ...
It's better when evenly leveled and geard
Yeah at times it's not very fun, especially when the area is super laggy. But as Stompin said, when you're evenly geared it's a lot more fun and you have longer fights.