THIS $130 TAPE CAN HOLD 30TB!

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
  • Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS: clcr.me/Tpoyhg ✅ ANDROID: clcr.me/rXwNbS ✅ PC: clcr.me/1WgClp and get a special starter pack 💥Available only for the next 30 days
    mLogic mRack - www.mlogic.com/products/mrack...
    mLogic mTape - www.mlogic.com/products/mtape...
    Snazzy Labs launched a video about Margaret last year-our rescued server that has a 336TB capacity and we use to edit video live over the network via 10 gigabit ethernet. It's been super amazing, but while redundant, it isn't a backup so we're adding Edith to the mix: an i7 Mac mini that communicates with an LTO-8 tape drive made by mLogic.
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  • @snazzy
    @snazzy  4 роки тому +151

    Install Raid for Free ✅ IOS: clcr.me/Tpoyhg ✅ ANDROID: clcr.me/rXwNbS ✅ PC: clcr.me/1WgClp and get a special starter pack 💥Available only for the next 30 days
    BTW, I have a new podcast called "Flashback" on Relay FM. We talk about old, failed tech and what we can learn from it. Check it out! relay.fm/flashback

    • @MickTheRus
      @MickTheRus 4 роки тому +100

      We lost our lovely friend Quinn to the dark side of Raid™ shadow legends

    • @GenBumbleBee
      @GenBumbleBee 4 роки тому +9

      well if i was subed i would unsub. raid is from china. do u want corona-chan on your phone?

    • @linyingyen
      @linyingyen 4 роки тому +7

      get a steadicam or stabilizer man... I am about to throw up.

    • @srafiku9388
      @srafiku9388 4 роки тому +11

      I fucking hate raid shadow league and thair shitty add

    • @MrChrisCube
      @MrChrisCube 4 роки тому +4

      You live in the wrong country, here in Spain we pay about 60 US$/Month for a 600Mbps fibre simetrical bandwith (no transfer cap) and we never pay for the installation fee.

  • @baitboy3191
    @baitboy3191 4 роки тому +2397

    Not even Snazzy is safe from RAID shadow legends

    • @DragonKingGaav
      @DragonKingGaav 4 роки тому +43

      🤑

    • @danylovarshavsky7639
      @danylovarshavsky7639 4 роки тому +11

      F

    • @helloimash
      @helloimash 4 роки тому +76

      I've heard they pay really well and it's not hard at all for me to skip over it, so at this point I just don't notice.

    • @wright96d
      @wright96d 4 роки тому +41

      You know what else costs $200?

    • @baitboy3191
      @baitboy3191 4 роки тому +40

      Alex they do there was a UA-camr with around 350k subs that refused to do an ad placement cause he hates mobile games but they were willing to pay 4 grand.....
      His whole video was about talking how bad RAID shadow legends is and stuff

  • @mmiikkee41
    @mmiikkee41 4 роки тому +892

    Wow. Keeping me glued for 20 minutes with in-depth explanations without being boring seriously needs credit.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +72

      Thanks!!

    • @JayDee_24
      @JayDee_24 4 роки тому +5

      For real! Quinn is great!

    • @MaxUgly
      @MaxUgly 4 роки тому +17

      yea, when he said "are you bored yet?" it really threw me off because I was entranced!

    • @johnmckay1961
      @johnmckay1961 3 роки тому

      Agreed, not patronising, not over my head.

    • @gp3328
      @gp3328 3 роки тому

      @@MaxUgly I didnt even notice him say are you bored yet

  • @brucoder
    @brucoder 4 роки тому +364

    I agree with a good bit of what you present, but here's a bit more input:
    LTO isn't really "open" anymore since only IBM designs and manufactures the drives since LTO-7.
    Any SAS Tape drive can be a Thunderbolt tape drive, all that mLogic has done is hide the adapter in the case.
    LTO tapes are good for tens of thousands of accesses, not a hundred or so. We have LTO-1 tapes in our lab that have over 10,000 full passes and even old DDS-1 tapes (1990-ish) that have closer to 50K write/read passes.
    When you say "the software" keeps track of the file's location on tape, clarify that the LTFS drivers keep track of that. Yoyatta ID depends on the LTFS layer for tape access.
    Access times on an LTO 7 or 8 tape is under 5 minutes (LTO-6 and 5 are under 4 minutes). This means that software that truly manages the tape layer can locate even a 500 byte email file and start the restore in under 5 minutes.
    Be aware that a power loss during tape writing with any LTFS-based solution will result in a completely corrupted tape, not just the data that was being written at the point of failure.
    It would be better to perform the backups from the native file system on the TruNAS/FreeNAS host (Margaret?) rather than via CIFS and the network. You lose filesystem metadata when you do it that way.
    Just a bit of feedback based on 35 years in the backup business.

    • @emu071981
      @emu071981 4 роки тому +23

      He should hopefully have a UPS that can last for at least long enough to shut down the storage server gracefully in the event of a power failure. Hooking the tape drive up to that will help ensure graceful power failure there too

    • @lollb454
      @lollb454 4 роки тому +6

      Shut up nerd

    • @brucoder
      @brucoder 4 роки тому +20

      @@emu071981 The issue is the write to the tape and the unmounting of the LTFS volume. It's more than just a power interruption. The power loss manager must be able to tell Yoyatta to close the current write and then unmount/eject the tape before shutting things down. This is an LTFS weakness, not a problem in Yoyatta ID.

    • @Adam-de8jm
      @Adam-de8jm 4 роки тому +19

      Oh god I can already see that janky power button turning off the computer in the middle of a backup and bricking the drive.

    • @brucoder
      @brucoder 4 роки тому +12

      @@Adam-de8jm Because the LTFS index partition and the EOD marker on the data partition can't be updated in such an event, we've seen a lot of tapes that required very extensive deep recovery runs to get "any" data back off of the tape. Other backup apps like tar, pax, cpio, and bru use the tape as the sequential beast that it is and the worst that happens is the file that was being written at the failure point is incomplete. All of the other data written to that point may be restored with no special handling of the tape.

  • @Disaur
    @Disaur 4 роки тому +53

    Quinn: This is a very expensive box
    Also Quinn, 10 seconds ago: *Trying to burn the package down with a lighter*

  • @allenwarfield
    @allenwarfield 4 роки тому +943

    "you know what else costs 200$? an addiction to raid sha..." *coughs because he almost lost his sponsor lol

    • @Top_Cheeze
      @Top_Cheeze 4 роки тому +18

      Why?
      That is probably adding to his pay if anything, it is the kind of sneaky marketing that makes people think"huh, its that good after all" because it was staged to look like a "accident"
      How far into their trap do you have to be to not see this?

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +181

      @@Top_Cheeze It was actually a joke and not part of the ad.

    • @Icessassin
      @Icessassin 4 роки тому +42

      You cannot lose a Raid Shadow Legends sponsor.... seriously YTers have tried but because them meme the ad themeselves RSL don't care. Any exposure is good exposure

    • @Gomepez
      @Gomepez 4 роки тому +12

      @@Top_Cheeze lmaooo please don't tell me you are this blind to humor.

    • @AlexandersMashups
      @AlexandersMashups 4 роки тому +9

      @@Icessassin A German UA-camr literally said that this game is boring and got the cash

  • @Monsux
    @Monsux 4 роки тому +1003

    I have a solution: Raid Sha.... Skip

    • @springbok4015
      @springbok4015 4 роки тому +4

      Yeah. Poo

    • @zeromailss
      @zeromailss 4 роки тому +6

      @@amiri7392 200? rookie number

    • @Vivi_Strike
      @Vivi_Strike 4 роки тому +1

      That sponser money...

    • @purpshell
      @purpshell 8 місяців тому +1

      The new RAID disk configuration, available today!

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 4 роки тому +143

    I've always wanted to get into tape, but the drive cost is too prohibitive for me atm

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +32

      Can't blame you. Not a cheap enterprise.

    • @MickeyMishra
      @MickeyMishra 3 роки тому +12

      EBAY bro. EBAY. Old drives from last gen? They are $39 bucks. And Old tapes? CHEAP!

    • @santosturmio8189
      @santosturmio8189 3 роки тому

      @@MickeyMishra really? can you recommend a specific one bro?

    • @Test-bi5rg
      @Test-bi5rg 3 роки тому +2

      Tape drives before LTO-6 (maybe including LTO-6 now) are a lot cheaper. I purchased a used Quantum LTO-5 from ebay at several hundred dollars, and it worked without any issue. Do use brand new tapes for data storage (actually LTO tapes have a chip inside, which records the read/write statistics.). You will need to wait for some enterprises to update their hardware and sell the outdated ones on ebay.

    • @Wiktorion
      @Wiktorion 3 роки тому

      @@Test-bi5rg yeah, I think I paid like 20 bucks for my LTO-2 tape drive. The cheapest drives are the internal ones which are SCSI over LVD so you need a serial interface controller card but the setup is very clean when set up. Just like a regular DVD drive in your PC, except it's a tape drive.

  • @GoldenGearGrinder
    @GoldenGearGrinder 4 роки тому +483

    People: going crazy over raid shadow legends
    Me: did he just try to remove tape by lighting it on fire?

    • @Skystrike70
      @Skystrike70 4 роки тому +16

      Same. He carries a lighter but not a pocketknife? Lol

    • @LocoBuki
      @LocoBuki 4 роки тому +5

      Didn’t take him as a smoker till I seen that

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +38

      I’m not lol. Lighter was above my gear shelf on my 3D printer.

    • @pluto762
      @pluto762 4 роки тому +2

      I'm guessing you meant lighting, not lightning. He's not Thor (I think...?). :)) But yeah, I was like: what are you doing with that lighter near the cardboard box?

    • @GoldenGearGrinder
      @GoldenGearGrinder 4 роки тому +3

      @@pluto762 forget about the cardboard box, he tried to remove TAPE by lighting it on FIRE.

  • @KarlMathiasMoberg
    @KarlMathiasMoberg 4 роки тому +300

    As an enterprise IT sysadmin - THANK YOU for showing that tape is the thing to use for backups and not jerry-rig solutions like Linus has done for his projects. Tape is cheap, and as long as you label your tapes properly and have a good application for managing it, it's super flexible. Very nice video! :D

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +30

      Thanks!! Hoping to get a library soon.

    • @Toblehrone
      @Toblehrone 4 роки тому +25

      I thought that Linus made one video about tape storage once? But yeah, it's really interesting! If I did require a backup, I'd probably try to do tape as well (as one of them).

    • @bronekkozicki6356
      @bronekkozicki6356 4 роки тому +13

      ​@@snazzy next thing you need to do is figure out your off-site data storage. My ex-employer (looong time ago, when DDS was a thing) rented a small bank vault for that. I visited it weekly (or was it daily?) replacing backups.

    • @apresthus87
      @apresthus87 4 роки тому +3

      Yep! As a former sysadmin this brings back memories of storing tapes in vaults and inserting new ones every single day :)

    • @LucidThought
      @LucidThought 4 роки тому +9

      You ain't taking backup seriously unless your tapes are stored in disused cold war bunkers.. VMS & DLT tapes FTW ;-D

  • @MrKelsomatic
    @MrKelsomatic 4 роки тому +13

    Snazzy Labs is quickly approaching a singularity wherein the rate at which they shoot video to explain their video storage solutions outpaces their ability to acquire new storage for the additional videos.

  • @leoren5128
    @leoren5128 4 роки тому +26

    Finally, someone does a video on the current day tape storage technology. All my mates look me as a caveman when I talked with them about the enormous storage space current type can provide.

  • @findursol
    @findursol 4 роки тому +14

    You’re literally the only person creating content on here that I watch every video from. You cannot make bad content and the improvements in production quality have shown up more and more over time. They’re generally family friendly and I can show them without reservation to others. Please keep this up. Seriously. A+.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +6

      Thank you so much!

  • @ElZamo92
    @ElZamo92 4 роки тому +303

    Quinn: This video is sponsored by Ra-
    Me: KING CRIMSON!!!

  • @SirCrest
    @SirCrest 4 роки тому +191

    RAIDZ2: Vdev Legends

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +22

      I’m dead 😂 😂

    • @dashtesla
      @dashtesla 4 роки тому

      I love tape and absolutely wouldn't replace that over more fault tolerance since it's not a solution but i keep asking myself why not use one vdev with 24 drives and raid z3? more storage anyway.

  • @milo8425
    @milo8425 4 роки тому +160

    >primary motivator is cost
    >everything is apple
    [x] doubt

    • @mickeynissan9887
      @mickeynissan9887 4 роки тому +12

      I'm not sure what that was about, but I've been using LTO tapes for years in enterprise applications and have never heard of OS X support or that odd piece of software.
      Every enterprise backup solution in the past 15 years has full support for LTO tape backup storage devices. Including free open source solutions like Bacula - which would have easily ran on his HP DL380 Gen 8 back there.
      Having said that, an Apple Mac mini is not enterprise grade, not redundant, no out-of-band management and is completely out of place in that regard - but it is A LOT CHEAPER then an actual enterprise solution if for some reason he didn't want to co-host a backup solution on that rack server he already has running.

    • @cashnelson2306
      @cashnelson2306 3 роки тому +1

      did this comment come from 2005 or what

    • @nimistar01
      @nimistar01 3 роки тому

      @@cashnelson2306 isn't that cheese grater apple computer horribly expensive?

    • @reaperreaper5098
      @reaperreaper5098 3 роки тому +3

      @@nimistar01 Compared to prosumer machines and EPYC, yes. Compared to other server grade systems, not really, no.

    • @reaperreaper5098
      @reaperreaper5098 3 роки тому +1

      @Franz Xaver Fuchsberger The Mac Pro is a server grade machine. Every design decision other than the desktop case itself (they sell the same exact thing in a rack mount case) has server use in mind.
      Hex channel, ECC memory.
      GPU SKUs that undergo workstation+server validation.
      Extended IO (PCIe Multiplexing) that doesn't restrict what IO you can use.
      Passive heatsinks on processors, active case cooling.
      Proprietary PSU configuration to facilitate the addition, removal, or replacement of hardware (MPX modules).
      Dedicated hardware acceleration module (Afterburner card).
      Twin 10GbE ports.
      Hell, the best argument for your side is that the Xeon W chips are marketed as high end workstation chips. But that's a tad disingenuous, as the specific subset that Apple is using are derived from Xeon Scalable processors, just without the scalable features.

  • @ericsg95
    @ericsg95 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this awesome guide! I find your videos are more and more informative and helpful in setting up something complicated. This is especially true for your recent AMD Hackintosh DIY!! Luv it! Great job Snazzy Labs! With your wonderful content, no doubt you will run out of storage soon!!

  • @Ren_0096
    @Ren_0096 4 роки тому +117

    Did he just say YOLO in 2020?
    *Subscribed*

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +14

      😂

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah. So what if he did?

    • @TechnoLadz
      @TechnoLadz 4 роки тому

      Hello Kitty Lover Man! Not many people say it anymore

    • @HelloKittyFanMan.
      @HelloKittyFanMan. 4 роки тому

      Hmm, @@TechnoLadz, that's mildly interesting.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 4 роки тому

      I still say it sometimes when I go out on a limb with something I don’t trust

  •  4 роки тому +203

    This time you outlinused Linus on backups

    • @Klub4143
      @Klub4143 4 роки тому +9

      He has already doing a video on this.

    • @oren8699
      @oren8699 4 роки тому +2

      Doesnt he have like a 3 Petobyte one
      Edit: 1 Petobyte

    • @crzb
      @crzb 4 роки тому +6

      @@oren8699 Petobyte

    • @lexibigcheese
      @lexibigcheese 4 роки тому +1

      @@oren8699 Petobyte

    • @bigpod
      @bigpod 4 роки тому +5

      no he didnt linus does backups with tapes for a while now

  • @weeniehut4703
    @weeniehut4703 4 роки тому +125

    Me: Lets out a big *sigh*
    “Are you bored yet?”
    Me: wtf

  • @WarriorsPhoto
    @WarriorsPhoto 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Quinn, your videos flow very well. This one dragged on for a while but was great information. I appreciated it dude.

  • @alandurazo5577
    @alandurazo5577 4 роки тому +7

    Most interesting Tech channel on YT. Keep up to good work bro. I shook my head no after you asked if we were bored lol.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +2

      Haha good. Thanks so much!

  • @ElevationImaging
    @ElevationImaging 4 роки тому +5

    After seeing this, I really want you to do a video on data organization/management... That YoYatta software looks very interesting for streamlining the workflow of pulling images/videos of memory cards and doing some organization for you.

  • @daniellombardi3670
    @daniellombardi3670 4 роки тому +1

    Man... I just love these type of 'servery' videos..pleeaaaseee upload as much of them as possible!

  • @nitishbisht8950
    @nitishbisht8950 3 роки тому

    I love the way how you explained the issues with hard drives/tapes then, come to the product and its benefits. I say it's super cool.

  • @lr2582
    @lr2582 4 роки тому +45

    once again, raid shadow legends proceeds with their quest to sponsor all the youtubers. GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL

  • @umersalman1
    @umersalman1 4 роки тому +130

    What the hell? I pay 30$ per month for my fiber connection for 50 up and 50 down! In Pakistan!
    What kind of internet provider is this??

    • @Justgoodvids
      @Justgoodvids 4 роки тому +53

      Umer Salman it’s just North American crap we have to deal with.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +102

      A business internet provider. Residential internet is much cheaper here in the USA but our office is in a business park so we're stuck with paying the big bucks.

    • @p3chv0gel22
      @p3chv0gel22 4 роки тому +23

      Well
      I pay 39€ per Month (how is the course currently?) in Germany for ~0.3 mbit/s down 0.1 up
      But well, we are a special case :D

    • @utubekullanicisi
      @utubekullanicisi 4 роки тому +5

      $14/month for 100mbps down 4mbps up... Not sure if it's a good deal.

    • @GameHunter47
      @GameHunter47 4 роки тому +16

      Lol, 10 bucks for 100/100 here in Czech Rep

  • @shadowhwk99
    @shadowhwk99 4 роки тому +2

    Great video Quinn! I love the idea of using commercial networking/server gear in a small business setting and seeing hhow it worked out.

  • @jehumelchor
    @jehumelchor 4 роки тому +1

    When I watch you videos I feel smarter, and snazzier! Thanks man. I hopefully I never have to solve a problem like this.

  • @YugimanTeam
    @YugimanTeam 4 роки тому +37

    Hey interesting fact/experience I just had with ZFS....
    We lost our OS drive to a power loss, thought all the data was gone (luckily we hadnt really started using it yet) Got a new Drive, reinstalled CentOs and ZFS, and I was able to import in the Zpool like nothing happened at all, data intact!
    TLDR:
    You an completely replace and reinstall the OS Drive and your Zpool will remain (if nothing wrong with the drives)

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +18

      True! Super neat. We had something similar because we're booting our server off of an SD card (really, really not ideal, but HP prevents non-HP booting in their BIOS) and lost the SD card but one more install with FreeNAS and it imported our pool and all prior settings in a jiffy!

    • @YugimanTeam
      @YugimanTeam 4 роки тому +2

      @@snazzy yea btw....save any config files you can especially if using CentOs! It definitely came in handy for custom settings (non ZFS settings)!

    • @zoomosis
      @zoomosis 4 роки тому +2

      I like that FreeBSD allows you to boot from ZFS, making a separate OS drive unnecessary. From what I understand this is also possible in some Linux distros, but is perhaps more complicated to configure.

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 4 роки тому

      well, duh, that's why you go software RAID route instead hardware RAID route

  • @user-cr5wt6gl2o
    @user-cr5wt6gl2o 4 роки тому +15

    Here in Moscow, Russia, we can (and pretty much everybody) have 100mbps FIBER for about 7 bucks+ a month. 200 from ~15$.
    And Alex Brin called us a "snowy Nigeria"
    0_0

    • @David-nh7px
      @David-nh7px 4 роки тому +6

      While available, can the average person, who is not well off, afford that? You're talking in dollars, which seems cheap to people in America, but aren't to a large portion of the world.

    • @studioxxswe
      @studioxxswe 4 роки тому +1

      Ping from your Swedish neighbour here, got 1000/1000 fiber and a backup cable 500/50

    • @artyom5494
      @artyom5494 4 роки тому +1

      Auto Pi afford internet for 7$? Sorry, what? Of course yes

    • @user-cr5wt6gl2o
      @user-cr5wt6gl2o 4 роки тому +1

      @@David-nh7px sure. Even for those who are on the edge of poverty it's not a huge deal.

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 4 роки тому

      im in the boonies in canada and i pay $350 for tv, phone and internet and i have the fastest internet i can get. i top out at 400 kb/s download (5 mbit)

  • @happygilmore2100
    @happygilmore2100 3 роки тому +1

    Your explanations and enthusiasm keeps me glued to your videos.

  • @jauffins
    @jauffins 4 роки тому +2

    Love these types of videos. Server gear is so neat.

  • @willm5032
    @willm5032 3 роки тому +2

    Tape is a pretty standard storage medium still. My friend worked in an animation house (one contracted out to do scenes for hollywood films). They had an offsite backup- incase of fire, theft etc, all tape storage, in constant use.

    • @Darkk6969
      @Darkk6969 8 місяців тому

      I'm sure they have a cool robotic tape library system. $$$ but worth it!

  • @DONK8008
    @DONK8008 4 роки тому +51

    7:08 "their magnetic so they last forever.
    No, they last a long time but will fail eventually. Floppy discs are a prime example of this.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 роки тому +5

      Floppy's are closer to hard drives than tape.

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm 4 роки тому +10

      Most tape media is guaranteed for around 30 years. I've seen older tapes in service. I say that media should be temporary if data is to be permanent. Newer media is always denser and faster. Copying old data to new media every 20 years or so would be a great practice.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 роки тому +1

      @@rehoboth_farm What about VCR tape. Most of that is now unrecoverable. (I know it can still be recovered but a process to do so is no longer economy feasible.)

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm 4 роки тому +9

      @@jeposton VHS tape is not made to the same standards that certified media like LTO or other backup media are.
      A few years ago I worked in the seismic industry and we were still using a lot of DLT IV tape media that was first available in the mid 90's so it is a contemporary of VHS. We also used older media. We had an occasional failure on tapes that had been used over and over again that were very old. I spent many hours dismantling tape drives and trying to save tapes. I've put more than one into a waste basket. Luckily we normally had more than one copy or were able to reproduce it from earlier versions of the data.
      Ultimately the reason that we began moving it all to newer media was because it took so much more space to store and was so time intensive to read and write the old media. At the time we chose LTO5 because it was the best price/size storage for our needs including drive cost, server/interface card cost, etc. LTO6 had come out but was still VERY expensive. The quality of a high end storage tape like an LTO is much better technology now than it was on DLT tape from the 90's and it was head and shoulders better quality than video tape.
      However, to your point I always preached that media had to be temporary if Data was to be permanent. All media eventually fails and must be replaced even if it is on a 20 year cycle. It is a cost/performance/longevity and other factors type of problem.
      Cost is a really big deal. Now you can buy an LTO8 cartridges for about $150. That is 30TB of storage space if your data compresses well. How is that cost compared to equal hard disk space? Then compare it to RAID 6 storage. Another huge consideration is that if you already own a bunch of LTO 5 drives and tapes why would you want to go spend a bunch of money to replace them with LTO 8 if it is all working just fine?
      One great thing about the LTO format tapes is that the drives will usually read 2 previous generations and be able to write one previous generation. So an LTO 5 can read and write an LTO 4 and read and LTO 3. This really can help in upgrades and tape copies. You can also still buy a brand new LTO 5 tape drive and tape. This is because industrial types of equipment like this have a longer expected life span.
      Of course ALL media has issues. CDs and DVDs have their share of issues. Hard disks will demagnetize and have mechanical failure. Tape has been an industry standard long term bulk backup solution in various iterations going back to the 60's. There has been an enormous amount of engineering involved. It isn't going away anytime soon.
      All of the largest companies in the world use this solution. What is your solution? How would you backup a few petabytes of data that can't be compressed? Could you guarantee the media for 20 years? If you have a better way then you should talk to IBM or Quantum.
      I hope the information helps.

    • @jeposton
      @jeposton 4 роки тому

      @@rehoboth_farm Thanks.

  • @KeeganDoomFire11
    @KeeganDoomFire11 4 роки тому

    I just found your videos and quite enjoy your honest reviews of things and the shallow dive you do into details.

  • @AnoshMalik99
    @AnoshMalik99 2 роки тому

    This is great content! No gimmicks, great humour, calm. Best of all, very very informative 😌👌

  • @crowing7
    @crowing7 4 роки тому +5

    Working at a corporate datacenter, we have an absolute fortune invested in LT06 tapes for long-term storage.

  • @beoxsgaming9388
    @beoxsgaming9388 4 роки тому +15

    In one scene: "Are you bored yet?"
    In next scene: grabs lighter to open box
    Me: "Getting more interesting. This is definitely not going to end well." Thinks about getting popcorn.

    • @TheNewTimeNetwork
      @TheNewTimeNetwork 4 роки тому +2

      Next scene: "This is a VERY expensive and overpriced box."
      A lighter is definitely the right tool to use.

    • @beoxsgaming9388
      @beoxsgaming9388 4 роки тому

      @@TheNewTimeNetwork Right tool for the right job. What could possibly go wrong? (munches on popcorn)

  • @romanmaksimov2024
    @romanmaksimov2024 4 роки тому +1

    I find it funny how Snazzy makes videos about how he's figuring out ways to store the videos he makes for us! Love the content

  • @frostbiten9611
    @frostbiten9611 4 роки тому +1

    Really interesting! Getting into servers and storage has really open up a new tech world for me.

  • @FinlayDaG33k
    @FinlayDaG33k 4 роки тому +124

    Snazzy: "I have a solution"
    *Raid: Shadow Legends ad*
    me: "So your solution is to play... Raid Shadow Legends...???"

    • @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512
      @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 4 роки тому

      Does it playable on tape
      Of fucking course not

    • @harvey4385
      @harvey4385 4 роки тому +1

      @@MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 u englis not gud

    • @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512
      @MuhammadIlhamuodd254512 4 роки тому +1

      @@harvey4385 bruh get out

    • @KyttaIsHere
      @KyttaIsHere 4 роки тому

      Noooo. The solution is to use the *RAID* drive array. This technology can create copies over multiple drives, kinda like the *shadows* of the original data. The technology is quite *legend*-ary

    • @unguidedone
      @unguidedone 3 роки тому

      wait an ad? your on youtube with out an adblocker? u dumb so dumb

  • @gerowen
    @gerowen 4 роки тому +9

    13:06 I'd put some 3-in-1 oil on the spindle that little arm is sitting on to see if that let it release.

  • @carlyleroad
    @carlyleroad 4 роки тому

    When I worked for Bull Information Systems twenty years ago we called hard disks online storage, backup tape was off-line storage and tape-based indexed backups were called NEARLINE. So that's what you have there - perfect nearline storage! Fabulous video btw - it gives a real insight into your operation. Thanks.

  • @Behrdie
    @Behrdie 4 роки тому

    This is dope, love the details and footage. And the podcast is fresh! Looking forward to more!

  • @evindrews
    @evindrews 4 роки тому +24

    "this years, 2018 mac mini"

  • @jnx4803
    @jnx4803 4 роки тому +3

    Strips on credit cards are also magnetic and they are clean as soon as magnets get to them :D

  • @JamesRussoMillas
    @JamesRussoMillas 4 роки тому

    Quinn I'm glad your so transparent with what you pay for things. Keep things in perspective

  • @uMalice
    @uMalice Рік тому

    Excellent video. In my opinion, this is perhaps your most interesting video: mac minis, server racks & tape drives,
    oh my!

  • @alexander-jl6cs
    @alexander-jl6cs 4 роки тому +4

    6:40
    *To Add : You can initialise new LTO-7 tape cartridges as type-M in a LTO-8 drive giving 9TB capacity for the same price or 0.004$/GB.

  • @Alpha8713
    @Alpha8713 4 роки тому +4

    Good call on LTO as a storage medium. Can that Mac Mini feed the tape fast enough to avoid "shoe shining" the tape (and causing excessive tape and head wear)? Also, I'm not sure I understand your argument for Thunderbolt vs SAS connection (SAS is more standard), but whatever works. Nice job. Also, 1U is 1 3/4".

  • @langolier9
    @langolier9 3 роки тому

    Yep I’m glad I found you by accident this is my third video I’ve seen and you’re now on my shortlist for technology gurus to learn from

  • @kael13
    @kael13 4 роки тому

    Been a subscriber for a few years now. Videos getting better and more interesting all the time!

  • @LucasCosta10
    @LucasCosta10 4 роки тому +7

    Dude, if I were your insurance provider I would definitely increase your fee after seeing how you open boxes.

  • @jeinnerabdel
    @jeinnerabdel 4 роки тому +20

    What the hell happened to the focus on this video? It's like you recorded it with a phone that had issues getting things on first plane.

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm 4 роки тому +2

      I'm pretty sure they're doing manual focus in this video.

  • @kunleadelaja9159
    @kunleadelaja9159 3 роки тому

    Your a great teacher. I'm watching this niche tech tutorial about a process I'll never do

  • @gaborgregus2970
    @gaborgregus2970 4 роки тому

    I am just going down on the same road with disk shelves, rack servers, lto tapes. Good to see others going to the same direction!

  • @kysputnikable
    @kysputnikable 4 роки тому +9

    What benefits does Raid shadow legends have over raid 6 or raid 10?🤔

  • @gjermundification
    @gjermundification 4 роки тому +5

    10:20 no need for the MacMini, you can run BHYVE w/MacOS on your FreeNAS.

  • @ContentMonsters
    @ContentMonsters 2 роки тому

    THE LIGHTER! 😩🔥

  • @dsr0116
    @dsr0116 4 роки тому

    I'm having some flashbacks to when I was a kid and my dad had tape drives on his computers for backups. I inherited one of those computers and remember doing tape backups then. Didn't realize tape is still around and it's nice that the software creates a lookup table: do remember how long it would take for the computer to have to read all the tape in order to retrieve a backup. Though with the cost of the drive, my needs are still met with external hard drives. Neat to see though!

  • @BadKarma714
    @BadKarma714 4 роки тому +4

    Watch out your turning into Linus next you will have a large noisy server like his lol good video

  • @KayBertoss
    @KayBertoss 3 роки тому +3

    Are you bored yet? No, I love this stuff!

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 4 роки тому

    15:30
    I’ve seen that vinyl dozens of times, but seeing it just sitting in the background I couldn’t help but chuckle. I choked on my food gdi

  • @Keji839
    @Keji839 4 роки тому

    This guy is so charismatic and fun to watch. Answering questions I have in real time lol

  • @PixelVogue
    @PixelVogue 4 роки тому +40

    13:29 LMFAO!

  • @AgentLokVokun
    @AgentLokVokun 4 роки тому +7

    10:32 -- What the actual hell is going on? Just have a handy lighter next to your bong off set is kinda nice tho.

  • @adam872
    @adam872 3 роки тому

    Good to see people still using tapes. They definitely have their place.

  • @Aiello_
    @Aiello_ 4 роки тому

    very informative and fun to watch, nice!

  • @FriedrichWinkler
    @FriedrichWinkler 4 роки тому +10

    Why not use backblaze b2 and mail in your data?

    • @dlarge6502
      @dlarge6502 4 роки тому

      Do they mail it back when you need it? When you need the lot of it that is. (31 TB)

    • @linouxis9135
      @linouxis9135 4 роки тому +1

      @@dlarge6502 Yep, they do, and they even do it for free if you ship back the HDD

  • @JG-fg1ye
    @JG-fg1ye 4 роки тому +48

    I never realised how hard content creators work, seems really stressful :(

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +26

      It’s fun most of the time.

    • @bmxscape
      @bmxscape 4 роки тому +1

      yeah it really must be stressful being able to record anything you want and knowing all you have to do is post it to the internet to rake in 6 figure(if not 7) net profits per year, while not leaving your own house. i couldn't imagine a more stressful job.
      /sarcasm

    • @dl5fse990
      @dl5fse990 4 роки тому +5

      While I’m not saying it’s easy, he’s making copious amounts of money from doing all of this (as evident by the thousands in equipment shown in just this 1 video)

    • @dusscode
      @dusscode 4 роки тому +4

      Josh C you do realize that all of this was collected over many years, right?

  • @goldenpiece7087
    @goldenpiece7087 4 роки тому +2

    NO ONE in my life pulled me that strong to the video before. For over 6 years of my youtube usage I've never watched a video for 20 minutes and listen to it.

  • @edinborogh
    @edinborogh 4 роки тому

    Awesome video. I enjoyed it very much and learnt a lot. Thank you.

  • @mohdfaizal6773
    @mohdfaizal6773 4 роки тому +9

    Uh, some how, this video had some
    Blair witch project, feel to it

  • @SanderCokart
    @SanderCokart 4 роки тому +17

    13:30 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @SteveBoyer10
      @SteveBoyer10 4 роки тому

      I seriously laughed out loud hahaha

  • @on_certainty
    @on_certainty 4 роки тому

    That hum in the tape section sounds like someone left an oscilloscope on.
    Great video though, I didn't know about this storage medium! I appreciate that y'all go your own path with storage.

  • @tonyrking
    @tonyrking 4 роки тому

    I've done this for 20 years... was nice to watch you doing the same. :-)

  • @TeeKaaY
    @TeeKaaY 4 роки тому +41

    Focus is shady sometimes during the video :(
    I love your videos very much, when you upload I drop everything and watch your video so please take this as constructive criticism.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +20

      Noted. Will improve. Thanks!

  • @jx8148
    @jx8148 4 роки тому +3

    This guy is like me convincing my mom to let me buy a 2000 dollars PC

  • @nicolas.leger3
    @nicolas.leger3 4 роки тому +1

    why didn't I learn from tape BEFORE...thanks for sharing !!!

  • @MrMoxes
    @MrMoxes 4 роки тому +2

    7:48 I see you're switching things up with the Sub. :-D Very Snazzy. LTOs are pretty cool as well. I recall my dad using them about 10+ yrs ago to back up data for a doc office as an admin. Neat to see them again.
    P.S. Would you consider doing a watch collection, like you did with your audio gear a while back?
    Keep up the great stuff.

  • @xXRealXx
    @xXRealXx 4 роки тому +18

    Oh no, raid shady legends

  • @roybuscht.9997
    @roybuscht.9997 4 роки тому +8

    13:30 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @P_Foot
    @P_Foot 4 роки тому

    Your personality is absolutely fantastic.

  • @henryspradlin1042
    @henryspradlin1042 4 роки тому

    I'm loving the airflow to the macmini

  • @JohnWick-id6pk
    @JohnWick-id6pk 4 роки тому +46

    Why in the hell did you not just buy a 1U rack shelf instead of that stupid unit you got ?! These things are 10 times less expensive and will let air pass better to keep that choking Mac mini cooler

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому +47

      Ya but they're not cute.

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 4 роки тому +1

      Future expansion, and minimizing footprint.

    • @EdthePlumber
      @EdthePlumber 4 роки тому +1

      It’s a about the button pusher!
      No I serious, how annoying would it be to have to do a hard reset if it was on a rack self

    • @EdthePlumber
      @EdthePlumber 4 роки тому +8

      And cooling, Apple will tell you it’s not needed! Thermal throttling is a feature not a flaw

    • @Studio23Media
      @Studio23Media 4 роки тому +8

      Edward Lucas Just turn it backwards. There's nothing on the front of a Mac Mini anyway

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy 4 роки тому +12

    The internet prices in USA are just crazy. In my country (altough in a small part of it for now) you can get a symmetrical 10Gb/s connection for like $33 a month

    • @David-nh7px
      @David-nh7px 4 роки тому +10

      While true, his is even more expensive because it's commercial internet. He gets a static IP among other "features."

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 4 роки тому

      paying $55usd for 100mbps down 15 up $300gb cap. Usually speed test apps say between 100 and 110mbps also steam usualy reports 13 to 15 Mbps

  • @RyanMPierson
    @RyanMPierson 4 роки тому

    I can't believe I hadn't found this channel before. You earned my subscription today. Thank you.

    • @snazzy
      @snazzy  4 роки тому

      Thanks!! Welcome. :)

  • @rossimarti
    @rossimarti 3 роки тому +1

    Great minds think alike! I totally understand all the pros/cons. People need to be media-wise.

  • @fastjp72
    @fastjp72 4 роки тому +3

    Just buy a 1u shelf instead for the mac mini, duh!

  • @jaerdahl
    @jaerdahl 4 роки тому +7

    as long as the business doesn't catch on fire, you should be good to go!

    • @matthewcheng4158
      @matthewcheng4158 4 роки тому +2

      I want to him open a box with a lighter
      New video "How to unbox an Iphone with fire" burning off the box

  • @TheNubimusic
    @TheNubimusic 4 роки тому

    great video, is there any potential issues from having that tape drive directly above the mac mini which as you mentioned gets infernally hot?

  • @leeit2me
    @leeit2me 4 роки тому +2

    LTO tapes are sometimes a nightmare to do a recovery on. it all depends on what software you use for back up. We use EMC Networker for out robotic tape library and it was a nightmare to do some recoveries.

  • @doug
    @doug 3 роки тому +9

    google drive storage is unlimited when you have at least 5 business users (about $30 a month) 🥳 - only limited to 750gb upload per day, per user.

    • @IraQNid
      @IraQNid 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah but his upload speed is really crap as he already noted. Then you have to truly believe the Google won't use your personal data without telling you. They're not living up to the whole trust factor given their shady practices.

    • @blox2542
      @blox2542 3 роки тому +1

      Isnt is 750mb? Im not sure

    • @frogg4711
      @frogg4711 3 роки тому

      @@IraQNid you can encrypt the data before uploading

    • @DarkH4X0
      @DarkH4X0 3 роки тому

      Shared drives are always unlimited from GSuite for about 12 bucks per month

    • @darkfrost315
      @darkfrost315 3 роки тому

      Can be bypassed with Service account

  • @JazzToTheTwo
    @JazzToTheTwo 4 роки тому +4

    Didnt linus make a video and say it can take an entire day to write to a tape? Was he totally wrong or is this totally different?

    • @brucoder
      @brucoder 4 роки тому

      Depends on the source volume and the archival software. As long as your source volume can provide a sustained 3800MB/sec stream, you'll write to an lto-7 or LTO-8 tape at just over 1TB/hour. So, yes, filling a 12TB LTO-8 tape "will" take 12 hours. But, you'd be in worse shape doing the same write to a 12TB Exos drive at 120MB/sec (less than 500GB/hour).

  • @THEGAMINGHELP101
    @THEGAMINGHELP101 4 роки тому

    That button design reminds me of school project for a mechanical engineering team that was thrown together and finished in a night and Got a C grade for effort.

  • @flyingninja1234
    @flyingninja1234 4 роки тому +1

    I don't work with servers, have never seen a server up close, I will likely never buy a server, yet I found this video to be incredibly interesting. Thanks for making an interesting video about servers.

  • @mhtweeter
    @mhtweeter 4 роки тому +12

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? Raid shadow legends is everywhere. WTH

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio 4 роки тому

      M Ha they pay great as a sponsor :).

    • @PolakeXD
      @PolakeXD 4 роки тому +1

      I should purchase a +300.000 subs channel with viewer bots and maybe I will get a sponsorship from them 😂
      I heard they pay like 4000-7000$ for a single advertisement

    • @CreativeMindsAudio
      @CreativeMindsAudio 4 роки тому

      MichalPlays I heard UA-cam is onto bots so it won’t work. But yeah it’s about that for a spot.

    • @mhtweeter
      @mhtweeter 4 роки тому

      @@PolakeXD goddamn

  • @Teksers
    @Teksers 4 роки тому +16

    Ha ha ha(laugh in Romanian) 10 euro for 1Gbps internet speeds and this is for consumers. Businesses pay more as they have contracts that specify that their bandwidth is guaranteed.

    • @aoelp
      @aoelp 4 роки тому +5

      I think some households in Sweden get 10 GBit/s for ~50€/month and mind you Sweden has much higher wages too. Meanwhile, here in Germany I would need to pay 55€/month (up from 45€/month) for 175 MBit/s max down over my current ~96 with an unchanged upload speed of between 30 and 40 MBit/s. Just great. All that over a centuries old former telephone line, because our conservative party in the 80's ignored the expert's suggestions to broadly roll out fiber and CATV as a minimum for rural areas. Some people get less than 2 MBit/s till this day, even over cellular data. Sad. At least, most plans are uncapped when it comes to fixed broadband. Our cellular is either capped, very expensive (like >100€/month) or non-existent, because of lack of competition and corresponding laws…
      Mind you, 1 GBit/s is the max you normally can get in Germany apart from some very select few thousand households in either Metropolitan or Hinterland areas, while in outer countries this is already considered "the minimum" for most - at least those who want and can afford it. Most of that over some >110€/month fiber or CATV which is not nearly as stable or low-latency. Always feels so bad watching someone download over Gigabit/s lines with like 120 MB/s from Steam, when you are lucky to get 11 on most days. Hearing my parents say 12 MBit/s down with 2,3 MBit/s up is "fast" just a few years back was even worse…

  • @michaelbyrd4004
    @michaelbyrd4004 4 роки тому

    @Snazzy Labs - Excellent video!!!