Hello, your analysis of the INFP type personality is the most deep and profound I’ve come across. For the past 5 years I’m eagerly searching for knowledge about our personality type to obtain a better understanding of who I am and how I function. 90% of the videos are surface level, yours goes down to a profound level, the kind of search for meaning you actually talk about. Funny, here you are the thing you describe we look for. And lastly, I listened to you with eyes closed and your voice is soothing. Thank you for your time and effort, sir. Deeply appreciated, from an INFP.
wow i am impressed, I've been studying the subject and try to understand how people think and act for years now, I've been into MBTI for a while and I know a bunch of stuff about it but I'd never witnessed such a deep understanding of my own type from a stranger, thank you bro (or Sir) and long live to ye, peace, from Belgium 🍍
For anyone obsessed with facts , should know facts does not mean truth or correct. If you have ever been to court proceedings you would know , court is not won with truth but rather facts beyond reasonable doubt , which means whoever has the best facts(that they can convince or prove) even if they are lying tends to win . Persuasion of the jury thru emotions , not logic (people like to believe they are more logical than they are to protect their ego from feeling dumb), Lawyers will use logic , but that is not what's affecting the jury , most times its sensational evidence, the telling of the stories (testimony) The point for a lawyer is to win , pleas are not a win a conviction or dismal is . Nor is doing things by the book(order of operation or logistics even pragmatism) sometimes you have to be creative and think outside the box , sometimes there is indeed a better way (another way) and if you cannot do something ,there is always someone who can and who will for the right price or reason . Motivation and inspiration are not always kindly things either , you can use torture & pain to inspire and motivate , positive and negative reinforcement.
This was a brilliant video. I strongly resonated with “not because they’re conflict-averse,but because they like to submit to strength” - If we have an electrical problem that we need to solve and I know that you know considerably more competent in electrics than me, I am perfectly happy to be the Robin to your Batman. Why should it be any different? Saying that, when I’m in the position of competence or knowledge I do expect that same submission back but that will be rare in complex physical tasks. I have a very blitzkrieg style of doing things and definitely lack in refinement when it comes to the finesse-requiring tasks. It’s not that I don’t have finesse it’s just that I need to practice a lot to burn it in and make it consistent, if I don’t use the skills often I lose them rapidly. I’ve always been good at sports and when Fortnite was at its height (easily one of if not THE most mechanically demanding game ever) I was very good, not elite but very good. Everyone in my fairly large social circle and some even beyond would recognise me as they best they had actually played with. Though I really did pride myself on my ability to predict what people were going to do which often gave me an advantage against more mechanically gifted players. But I guess it could be debated that Se wasn’t the main catalyst of said competent performances. Ni dies hard 😂 You’re also completely correct when you said that we fold to pressure, albeit with nuance. As you’d expect I don’t like to act RIGHT NOW…it doesn’t matter who you are you can’t pressure me into doing something I don’t want to do RIGHT NOW unless it’s backed with solid reasoning or I’m already aware of said reason. Or the task is less annoying than the pestering. I also realised today that I actually quite like being around Se dominant or at least Se+ types. They galvanise me. It is hard for me to move on my own and for the sake of myself. Unless I genuinely want something, then there’s really not a lot that can stop me Jack. *Envisions himself as THE Unstoppable Force* 😂 I’ll end with this - I truly believe that my purpose in this life is to point others towards the North Star. Not your North Star. Not my North Star. THE North Star. ✨
I agree with alot that you said too , especially ( You’re also completely correct when you said that we fold to pressure, albeit with nuance) So true but he did say to whom so not to just anyone and nor does this mean in a fight , Se deals intimidation , threats aggressive force so i'm not the best physically making violent threats because my nervous system amps up and prepares me to fight if i do , nor am i good at throwing my weight around to force people to do things , we have fe to persuaded and inspire (which can mean emotional violence too) but i wont aggressively put my hand on anyone and i will even let you touch me until its to rough like a dog (but also so i can feel you out i will allow you to hit me) are functions hsp and mirror neurons makes us great for brawling more than boxing and long rang war we can disassociate and take alot of damage as well mirror the aggression and strength of our opponent(well atleast us mesomorphs ) and reactive enneagram types (I've never lost a physical fight even while being jumped but i have lost battles of force assertiveness and aggression ) Question do you ever forget what you are good at ? because i think that falls in Te polr( like you said about losing skills )I don't feel like they are lost i just cannot recall them unless triggered. is this the case for you as well ?
Yeah I’d bet Se in #4th means adrenaline spikes somewhat prematurely 😂 definitely the case for me haha and I’m sure other people that aren’t our type. My brother is an ISFP, still negative Se like us he very much feels the fear but it isn’t nowhere near as much of a hindrance for him but I think Fi helps in that also. I don’t know about forgetting what I’m good at as much as just not typically being aware of what I’m actually good at in terms of efficiency, I’ll say I’m better at something than you via the Se comparison. It might appear this way to you because also when situations are more intense our initiative to act is greater and we can recall our actions better. If I throw you this ball and you know if you drop it I’ll die I’m betting you catch that ball a lot more than you would without that variable.
@@theultimatedisciple7974 yeah true , ILI in particular , I have an isfp sister i would say same for her as your brother , Oh i agree in full when I'm pushed or angry , anger really works for me it helps me to focus and be present , but tbh its like you said its more reactionary the more I do it the worst I can get , LIke playing Naruto to Boruto i'm really good at seeing where things are going , but with all the lagging and mods, there are times when its all reactionary , like you get a general sense but there are still those variables (being ni subtype i have strong ne and te oppose to a fe subtype who has stronger fi and si ) some i can handle the ne-te components (and over time i will get a intuitive feel for the si maps) but nevertheless the Se stuff when they are coming down on you with the mods after awhile of a winning streak i start to make alot of (te-si)mistakes because it starts to become draining where as my EII brother doesn't have the same issues and in fact gets charged up especially because they are violating his Fi (he wants to play the game fair and on hard mode) Have you ever watched xmen phoenix saga , when she went dark the line about feeling sensations she's never felt before , It's like that feeling alive for the first time everything becomes enhanced especially my libido , which doesn't make me aroused per say but animalistic entuned .. Im a Ni subtype 4(w3)68sx/so (d type)HBu? and wonder since we are both IEI will it go down like it says about identical relations lol
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso yeah we aren’t built to handle the details man especially the monotonous ones for long periods of time, leave that shit to the Si doms 😂 Ni doms are simply meant to set the destination, not necessarily steer the ship. I haven’t fucked with films for a long time dude but I know what you mean haha, occasionally a series or anime but I rarely watch fiction now. I game way more than watch tv. I don’t know my subtype like that but I subscribe to the CSJ notion (if it came from him) that we can dip into our unconscious/subconscious/super ego, Ive definitely been unconscious focused for quite some time now. For a long time I was stuck in my subconscious reaching for that ESTP dream lmao until I discovered MBTI/cognitive functions when I was 23 in 2019…was also the same year I tried psilocybin mushrooms for the first time that lead to a HEAVY spiritual awakening….years prior I Intuitively knew 23 was an important number for me haha, never imagined it to be that. I’ll also say that OP would most definitely type me as Ni/Ti S/C/B(P) - I’d consider myself quite Ti heavy but I’m trying to balance that. How does it go down in when it comes to identical relations? 🤣
@@theultimatedisciple7974 Yeah im not about that life, its too draining , I wish people could communicate telepathically ( i dont like explaining myself) Most films are crap now days so i feel you , I dont watch much fiction well not cartoon anyhow, I watch documentaries more (unless im binged watching something) other than that i read ,( I game too but too a lil break because of the damm Mods and Lagging was getting frustrating ) Oh you like CSJ (dont get me wrong he has alot of good point about type but he does not understand the functions at all and fiils it with alot of conjecture I remember we he first started we corresponded more , here and there we still do , hes annoying but I like not for typology I just like him I love my Lunatics) It didn't come from him he stole the 4 sides of the mind from me and a article i wrote (thats why i deleted alot of my online information especially that i shared with him) I came up with it from reading shadow of type , which expressed the notion of a light shadow , that combined with beebees demom function and jung archetype of the double or male animus (we dont just have a anima) also Darios nothing of lets say you are a ni dom that means you have se , but ne is easier to access since it's intuitive but then you also have the connection to si . At first i started with just 3 side of the mind you know id ego superego but when i seen the super id of socionics it started to make me think and from that i discovered the real transcendent power of the demon/Deamon function ... I have my estp moments im dualized (so you was stuck in your shadow ?) have you read the many faces of infj perhaps you was in the sp wannabe phase oh damm , i originally found type in my teen , but again around the same age you were , but i also studied everything , have you read kerisey ? I'm 40 now tho , my heavy interactions Goes back to the same point of jack from the socionics( barry barracudas infj mbti group room more than 9-10 years ago DJarendee (jay who went insane)podlair, nfgeeks, type tips , true generations , dave super powers before the grift with shannon , some people are still around most aren't what happened during your awakening? (im still recovering from shaman sickness)Do you still play with shrooms ? 23 is 5 in numerology which is mercury (Lord Hermes) so you probably a ni subtype too something about we end up paying games with each other so to speak until we get bored lol
After studying various systems of personality for years, I never identified with any particular type until today. Reading the IEI description, every single sentence was exactly me. I've searched many years for some type classification that was entirely accurate. As far as this video, everything is accurate as well. A draw to the esoteric/otherworldly/gothic/symbolic, mundane daily tasks and chores are beyond painful to the point of thinking I should have been born into royalty with servants, an interest in identifying grand underlying universal themes, diplomatic generally but more specifically able to build one on one intimacy with individuals which in certain dynamics like in the workplace I'm able to move certain chess pieces for desired outcomes- this usually involves not making allegiance to any one group but to individuals authentically and across all party lines thereby having trust and influence in many areas.
Even though I'm very good at learning how things work and working very efficiently, I completely relate to this entire second half of the Te section starting 9:36 onward. If I can get someone else to do the work for me, I will. That's efficiency afterall.
Hi, Jack! You may not see this, but I just wanted to thank you for this video. I've been on the fence about whether I was an IEI or EII and was going back and forth repeatedly, but this video really cleared things up for me. While not everything discussed was 100% in line with my personality (which is probably just an inevitable consequence of trying to use a psychological model to describe everyone), I certainly felt that I identified very strongly with your description of the IEI, much more so than that of the EII. Now I feel I can start more firmly on the process of psychological development, knowing where I'm coming from. So, thank you for that!
The mystic :( I accept i do practice mysticism I am a shaman(seer) ( a legit one )psychopomp and Gnostic (psychospiritual)Witch NI: Active imagination, foresight , Ocular visons, collective unconscious's , Prophecy , archetypes psychometry ,clairvoyance ,premonitions ,Symbolism presentiments ( I was a gothic vamp in my teens) no mention of the dreams ?( i guess everyone can lucid dream now days) Fe :empathic relationships , charisma & charm , diplomacy (diplomacy is from the nf temperament) shapeshifting ,survivors (the only one to beat me in survivor is perhaps eii) SI: The momma in the betas , I am tidy but its true I do struggle and need help i will cry i will throw a fit and resent you TE: right paired with si ( I don't struggle with theory that's abstract) Facts can be misleading depending on how you position them as facts don't mean truth looks at media look at history books , and why should i do those things i do need servants and thats true i'm looking for insights more than the practicalities someone else will solve that I hate inventory i mess up my counts .. Se: true all true , im not fully submissive to just anyone its to the people you suggested Power & strength is sexy , but only if you have real force will i yield never to weaklings. I dont need help pretending . Yeah i can take alot not easily broken , nor fearful of the big bad I Love the Bad types ( I love Dc LOBO or Ares God of war) TI: Yes this is all that matters , Death before dishonor , Die on my feet rather than on my knees , Let what you love kill you , Principal are everything , if you can change me then i already died , atleast if i die on my own i can be free in death no matter how you write about me after . Intellectually aggressive Ne: True i really dont care about everyone personal opinions and beliefs , yes i will explore until i find what i am looking for , and i will dismiss what doesn't line up FI: true i wasn't always academic about it , yes befriend specific people to whom i want to get close to i will make myself likeable (akatsuki) Good job you did it the right way you even mention over time Thank you Buddy I approve this type was explained cognitively correctly
Intellectually aggressive 😂😂😂 facts. I can tell you’re definitely the same type as me haha this is all facts. Especially the Te part, how the fuck do YOU know that the fact you just read, is a fact, fool? We know some history/science is false, so what is your tool for reliably discerning what other history/science is true/false? Do you have the resources or even the intelligence to reenact to get to these conclusions yourself to verify? “Why would they lie to us?” 😂😂😂
@@theultimatedisciple7974 not for the worldly wisdom , I try to be objective & rational even reasonable I think thats good enough The gift of Prophecy and the gift of Discernment works just fine for me the shit ive survived
@@Heyokasireniei468sxsoAt this point dude my Ni/Ti tells me even the notion of objectivity is somewhat unreasonable as all comes from a subjective fragmented lens of what I call me or what I perceive even though what I am might only be what I perceive if that makes sense. Yeah we all see the Apple on the floor but that’s conducive to the “headset” we are wearing that grounds us to this reality; we actually know that the Apple isn’t there only in our subjective experience is it or anything really there. Just like the double split experiment; the nature of things change depending on whether you’re actively witnessing a thing or not. Research Girdles theorem if you haven’t already Donald Hoffman I think is his name knows a lot about that stuff. I just watched him with Tom Bilyeu from Impact Theory. God is the nothingness, the base 0 that allows form (1 - infinite). With that being said is all reality not completely subjective? Thus making it completely objective again?? 😂😂😂😂 duality. The maker hides behind the black and white curtains.
@@theultimatedisciple7974 Well i agree with you(yes it make sense to me) There truly isn't anything that we can call objective that doesn't arise an internal feeling of conviction as its source of empiricism one can say , no matter what line of logic there is a feeling behind it for they are in axis with each other. Well that's like active imagination and the green screen , Its in our mind and our body follows to its reactions . That in truth what is a purple dragon to a blind person who has never had sight to know purple ,even if they could fathom the dragon . More over, its not that they could not come up with some construct to fit the emotional affect , because its all just electrical signals in the brain right ?So who's to say what we imagine in that moment intensely isnt so . Especially if we engage in the spiritual realms ,even more so the realm of vibrations and signals be it spiritual or radio, to which you cannot see, yet can burn you if you are to close. It seems at the end of it all ,we are left with our experiences . Just lets say some supernatural event happen to you , just because no one else took witness or took part of it does it make it any less true no , but if you have no proof for the way people need to believe in something evidence, facts to convince them they will call you crazy . Yet unless you have some accolade to give you creditability. (many people called insane to believe in ufos , then truth comes out about military weapons but ufos propaganda as cover ups yet now we are back to having a branch of the government for ufos) So who da fuck knows shit could be real might not be real (but whats true about it at its core what is the meaning of aliens) i'm willing to believe everything and yet believe in nothing ,but thats fine because what i care about is the truth and even if its discovered thru abstraction imagination knowledge and feeling there is still a sensation and experience that one should go thru like dropping acid one should be changed in some way with such a experience to present as truth because on our death beds this is all that will matter to us is how we perceived how we lived and what we experienced , we decide that .
@@theultimatedisciple7974 von franz divination and synchronicity as archetypes kinda its in more of his spiritual nifeti stuff have you read memories dreams and reflections?
INFP here who is just beginning my journey into the realm of Meyers & Briggs 16 personalities based upon Carl Jung's 4 cognitive functions. I have an increasing fascination with everything about this discipline along with all of the peripheral ideas and interpretations that branch out from the core cognitive functions. I watch scores of videos everyday on the topic to the extent where I am now starting to develop my own ideas about definations that could be added here and there or ones that might need removal from a certain type's spectrum. Please be clear that i understand they are simply my opinions and may not be accurate or valid for application towards the functions. It's more an exercise in priming my mind into a deepening involvement with this subject. That's my intro to you dude. Now i'll disclose what led me to your videos. First it was your topic titles that are approaches i hadn't come across yet. Also the phrase "explained correctly" in your videos' headings resonates with my inclination to refine, redefine and rearrange any idea out there with other possibilties. I started with your video explaining introverted sensing because i have a friend who is an ISFJ. He's currently homeless and i was hoping to spark an interest in this topic. I felt taking this subject seriously could lead him to gain deeper insights regarding his behaviors and intentions. Which in turn would hopefully provide a work around for certain internal processes that i believe are holding him back. I'm concerned about him because it seems he has resigned himself to being homeless therefore thwarting any ambition to procure work and housing. I read material about his ISFJ type to him and we watched a couple of videos covering his type. We had both agreed on certain traits that were definite matches to his personality and it aroused a mild interest from him for the subject. Yet there was a lot of descriptions that were very hard to grasp or connect to any kind of behaviour. Unfortunately it dampened the flint and prevented any sparks of deeper interest to ignite within himself. I intend to readdress the topic of introverted sensing with him by using your updated definitions and see how that lands. Reverting back to me; Your updates inadvertantly created somewhat of an identity crisis for me that i hope you can provide further details about what led you to correct the INFP's cognitive block from introverted feeling and extroverted intution into a reversed flip. I rooted so deeply into all things INFP with unwavering belief the type and it's current trending stack is the right fit for me. Adopting a different stack arrangement could cause my personality to splinter into multiple ones, lol. Just kidding but it is a metaphor indicating just how hard a transition might be. Yet I'm driven to go with correct stack which ever one it is. Any further information supporting your stated stack for INFP's may help buffer the change. Thanks for your time in reading my text. Peace
You might benefit from watching INFJ explained correctly and seeing if it describes you better than INFP explained correctly, or not. Ultimately, it makes much more sense for IxxP types to have a Perceiving dominant function in the same way they have an Introverted dominant function. That's the basis of it.
I think you are right. I ‘ve hesitated to dive into socionics, because I haven’t even fully absorbed mbti, but perhaps this is why I haven’t. The socionics approach seems more logical and intuitive to me, and to have greater practical and abstract application. It’s like microsoft vs apple, apple being the more intuitive and holistic system. I beat my head against the wall with microsoft for years. The only thing I miss is Paint, which was actually very simple, pure, and nice. @@WorldSocionics
I miss paint too... The idea that people need to master MBTI before they are ready for Socionics is a hindering belief. If anything, getting too into MBTI will make things harder to get into Socionics because it will then require more unlearning so that misassociations aren't then carried over.@@alteredcatscyprus
It sure does sound like he is describing an INFP in MBTI. It sounds like he flipping the generally accepted P and the J definitions, because his description here sounds much like the INFJ in MBTI, and his INFJ video sounds like the generally accepted definition of the INFP in MBTI. I think Jack is on his own in this description.
Socionics had helped me to understand myself sm! While Im still in my mbti era (Im an Infp btw) I’ve always wondered why I use Ni, Ti sm and now it makes sm sense bc Ive always thought my real stack in mbti should be Ni - Fi - Ti - Se. The way the functions r interpreted in socionics also makes more sense to me. For ex Ive always wondered, from the biological evolutionary standpoint, how r functions like Fi, Se in the mbti definition be useful for our survival instinct in order to evolve. In socionics definition instead of how personal vs less personal u view the material world its abt quantity and refinement which made me go ooh, bc my question had been solved. For ex in prehistoric time humans had to stick in groups to survive (Fe) and whenever a conflict broke out in a group the analysis of each individual motive and morality must be implemented to cast away the bad (Fi), same thing abt socionics Se/Si bc I just find the Se in mbti definition to be quite lacking
Do you have any thoughts for someone who keeps getting typed as IEI, but who has some serious problems with that typing? For example, I don't think I value Se at all. I'm firmly anti-hierarchical and have nothing but disdain for those who force their will on others. I also have minimal ability to manipulate others' emotions, and absolutely zero desire to do so. I've considered EII as well, but there are things about that don't fit, either. I'm too much of a fighter, for one. I'm perfectly willing to throw down for my beliefs in a way an EII might not be. I'm also not dutiful, as hard as I try to be. Everyone who's typed me has concluded I'm some kind of NF, usually IEI, but none of them seem to quite fit.
@@WorldSocionics Interesting theory, though I'm reasonably sure I'm a feeler. But I'll look into it. I don't know if I can quite afford a paid typing service, but that's good to know. Maybe when I've saved up a bit I'll hit you up.
@@mushkinss I know this is crazy late, sorry, but I just saw this now. Yes, Te suggestive does resonate with me. I often seek out advice on how to accomplish the things I need/want to accomplish, as I rarely know how on my own. For example, I'm trying to write a novel, but I feel like I need to write an outline before I can start on the writing proper, and I'm kind of overwhelmed with all the options for how to outline. So I haven't even really started an outline yet, because I need to decide on which kind to try, but I don't know HOW to decide, especially when one considers there are certain things about me (like having ADHD) that may affect the process.
Why is it I see you in a lot of place but no one responds to you or hardly ? Like why do you never get any likes ? Are they ignoring you? Did you do something? You don't have to answer this but how does it feel to be that ignored? I ask because I feel bad for you I'm not making fun
@@tricksterwitch IMO I think he sometimes get most of his information from CSJ and sometimes I think he comments on other typology channels as means of trolling them by saying whatever CSJ said recently or four five years ago whether it’s the definition of how he defines cognitive functions or what certain celebrity type is.
@@tricksterwitch yeah. I saw him comment on TWFP calling him an ESTP cus CSJ “typed him accordingly” through his own type grid. I also don’t think he’s a INTP like he claims to be or even LII but that’s just my opinion
I would have to disagree with the Perceiving vs Judging notion. To me, someone having an EXTROVERTED judging function in their Ego Block would classify them as a J. Fe and Te are both outward focused functions, and can often aid as tools with leader like qualities. Likewise, a type with an EXTROVERTED perceiving function in their Ego Block should be classified as a P. As an ENFP (Te being my tertiary), it is much more uncomfortable for me to do something such as lead, or organize something such as a group of people, than it would be for an MBTI INTJ with Te being their secondary If anyone disagrees with this, I'd love to know why
Also the idea that an INTP with Ni-Te would be good at organising a group of people is very unusual. They don't have the personal presence or social impact. They also just aren't interested if they can just work independently. You may want to watch Extraverted Thinking explained correctly as it has nothing to do with organising people. It's a socially independent, evidence based, pragmatic approach to the world.
I'm typed as a divergent TiNi ENFJ in CPT but the INFP (as there isn't a straightforward overlap) seems like one of my most likely types in socionics. It's worth noting in CPT i have a highly conscious TiSi subnetwork. If there is a correlate I'm not sure that Ti is valued but not a strength of this type as this does not seem to be born out in reality; rather Ni acts at the the behest of Ti and is the 'INFPs' agency function especially in convergent subtypes. CPT would also contest that their world is one of images rather Ni-Ti is a cerebral dialogue; symbolism is applicable much more to the MBTI equivalent of the INTJ. There's areas where we converge & disagree here. Ps mother Theresa was definitely not an INFP lol
ok this is correct description of me tested infp in mbti test but cognitive function in mbti is bs, im doubting what are the purpose of those youtubers making vjdeo about mbti.cognitive function
It's weird though two ni Dom's one to dom and one si dom like what's the connection. Different temperaments different thinking style but all introverted
What is well known is not necessarily true. The MBTI gets a lot wrong. How can a P have a Judging function as their Dominant function, the key lens that shapes their motivations and understanding of the world? The premise of this Explained Correctly series is that you need to be willing to unlearn the bad habits from MBTI. That is how you can then construct a more coherent view of Jungian type.
I don’t understand these videos on my type. My type is very much into self improvement. It’s just the areas we try to improve are not always seen or valued by other types. At least not in the front of their brain. They take the benefit. My Ni and Ti are also always systematizing to make things more efficient. It’s just that the goal of our efficiency is a blind spot or irrelevant for most types. But again, they enjoy the benefit. I also can’t understand the power thing. I have absolutely folded at times. Not because I respect the power. I do not. It’s because I hate conflict. And I see everyone’s perspective with my Ni and will imagine myself in the other persons place and my Fe will not want to hurt them, by allowing them to hurt me. Something I and many with my type need to overcome. Other times I allow the power over me because, although uncomfortable, and possibly unjust, my suffering serves a greater purpose.
Take a look at INFJ explained correctly, see if it's a better fit. It's very common for these two types to be mixed up, and you sound a lot like the other.
Hey this is me, lovely. I would like to make a list of known mystics, for refering to in the future. Feel free to add to this list. Mystics that I know of are: Eckhart Tolle Adolf Hitler John F Kennedy Carl Yung Alan Watts These I'm pretty sure of, some speculations are: Jim Carrey, Charlie Chaplin Russel Brand Joe Rogan Feel free to correct me aswell. With as much SE as you like, I don't mind :)
this list makes no sense JFK? you must not be American Jim carrey wtf ? Charlie Chaplin the pedo are you sure you understand mysticism no stan lee no Bruce less lol you are are hilarious
@@WorldSocionics Don juan, Aleister Crowley, Buddha, Confucius, George Ivanovich Gurdjieff, Helena Blavatsky, Hermann Hesse, yeats, Rumi, Joan of Arc, Khalil Gibran, Nostradamus, plato, Pythagoras, St. Teresa of Avila, Thomas, Solomon, Jesus, Crazy Horse this would be a better list of actual mystics oh and I Forgot me lol
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso you think Buddha was INFJ? I think he was INTJ. The reason being; he was concerned with helping people dropping the ego (the actual accomplishing of said act; Te) not to necessarily help them to understand or even understand for himself. I’m quite confident on that but not as confident as Jesus/Plato being INFJ. Jordan Peterson is the most famous INFJ we have currently (that I’m rock solid on at least).
Alan Watts and Russel Brand = ENFP Jim Carey = ENTP Joe Rogan = ESTP Hitler = I thought INFJ but Jack made some good points recently that makes me think he was ENFJ These people are way too chaotic to be Ni doms.
if INFP has INFJ functions than why do I feel so much as Introverted feelings and don't care about others since entroverted feelings make us care about others. and why do I always use extroverted Intuition so much? I can't resonate with this theory
You know Ben, I have a theory that Jack doesn't understand the importance of such things because his Ti is subservient to his Ne, thus mostly used to categorize things he has explored, providing meaning, such that he can explore further. But people that have Ne subservient to their Ti put the logical structures before them and then explore to verify and (even if they won't want to recognize this part in some cases) further understand those structures, especially true of INTP's and ISFJ's due to their Si. I think that he thinks he is doing no harm because he has not experienced the harm, but is likely to break the landscape in ways that even if he succeeds would turn off many people that have a different configuration with their Ti. It surprises me that we don't realize how different types are, and yet this is supposed to be a study in which we try to understand such things.
@Realities of Typology I think MBTI itself is harmful, and the sooner it is overwritten, the better for all. I have seen first hand how it's oversimplicity and inability to separate value from strength can be used to harm and lead people astray.
@@WorldSocionics If you're going to basically call every non-socionics view of typology "MBTI" because they use the most capable 4 letter naming convention which the creators of MBTI made, then I'm going to start calling socionics "Russian MBTI". You want this to be an argument of logic, but really that ship has sailed and you aren't even logically identifying things. So you've made it an argument of morals as you try to slide by with that sort of mental gymnastics, and you don't win either. I love your work in general though.
@@realitiesoftypology7502 "because his Ti is subservient to his Ne, thus mostly used to categorize things he has explored," - I don't think he's empirical at all. I agree with him that his neuroticism is very low. Thus he uses a lot of the Ti Assertive subfunction. I'm empirical in part due to my enneagram 6 fixation. I want evidence. Remember that Jack defines thinking as "external". By stating it doesn't need to be reinterpreted, he is saying he sees zero subjective factor in it, and thus that semantics and semiotics don't exist because the word is made flesh.
@@alliarsenic Personally I use keys2cognition or sakinorva for MBTI and aimtoknow for socionics, but studying to find your type on your own is always miles better
Hello, your analysis of the INFP type personality is the most deep and profound I’ve come across. For the past 5 years I’m eagerly searching for knowledge about our personality type to obtain a better understanding of who I am and how I function. 90% of the videos are surface level, yours goes down to a profound level, the kind of search for meaning you actually talk about. Funny, here you are the thing you describe we look for. And lastly, I listened to you with eyes closed and your voice is soothing. Thank you for your time and effort, sir. Deeply appreciated, from an INFP.
I'm glad it was so illuminating for you. There is more info on the inner dynamics of each type available in my course.
As an INFP thank you for this accurate description. It's so refreshing to hear a truly accurate understanding of personality types, a rarity.
Wow. 😮
This is the best description of my character that I’ve ever heard…
wow i am impressed, I've been studying the subject and try to understand how people think and act for years now, I've been into MBTI for a while and I know a bunch of stuff about it but I'd never witnessed such a deep understanding of my own type from a stranger, thank you bro (or Sir) and long live to ye, peace, from Belgium 🍍
life* 😫💩
and what I like is the different manner you tackle the point , outcastingly, very unique, I love your work, I stop commenting my own comment now.
Thank you
For anyone obsessed with facts , should know facts does not mean truth or correct.
If you have ever been to court proceedings you would know , court is not won with truth but rather facts beyond reasonable doubt , which means whoever has the best facts(that they can convince or prove) even if they are lying tends to win .
Persuasion of the jury thru emotions , not logic (people like to believe they are more logical than they are to protect their ego from feeling dumb),
Lawyers will use logic , but that is not what's affecting the jury , most times its sensational evidence, the telling of the stories (testimony)
The point for a lawyer is to win , pleas are not a win a conviction or dismal is .
Nor is doing things by the book(order of operation or logistics even pragmatism) sometimes you have to be creative and think outside the box , sometimes there is indeed a better way (another way)
and if you cannot do something ,there is always someone who can and who will for the right price or reason .
Motivation and inspiration are not always kindly things either , you can use torture & pain to inspire and motivate , positive and negative reinforcement.
what is your type??
This was a brilliant video.
I strongly resonated with “not because they’re conflict-averse,but because they like to submit to strength” - If we have an electrical problem that we need to solve and I know that you know considerably more competent in electrics than me, I am perfectly happy to be the Robin to your Batman. Why should it be any different? Saying that, when I’m in the position of competence or knowledge I do expect that same submission back but that will be rare in complex physical tasks. I have a very blitzkrieg style of doing things and definitely lack in refinement when it comes to the finesse-requiring tasks. It’s not that I don’t have finesse it’s just that I need to practice a lot to burn it in and make it consistent, if I don’t use the skills often I lose them rapidly. I’ve always been good at sports and when Fortnite was at its height (easily one of if not THE most mechanically demanding game ever) I was very good, not elite but very good. Everyone in my fairly large social circle and some even beyond would recognise me as they best they had actually played with. Though I really did pride myself on my ability to predict what people were going to do which often gave me an advantage against more mechanically gifted players. But I guess it could be debated that Se wasn’t the main catalyst of said competent performances. Ni dies hard 😂
You’re also completely correct when you said that we fold to pressure, albeit with nuance. As you’d expect I don’t like to act RIGHT NOW…it doesn’t matter who you are you can’t pressure me into doing something I don’t want to do RIGHT NOW unless it’s backed with solid reasoning or I’m already aware of said reason. Or the task is less annoying than the pestering.
I also realised today that I actually quite like being around Se dominant or at least Se+ types. They galvanise me. It is hard for me to move on my own and for the sake of myself. Unless I genuinely want something, then there’s really not a lot that can stop me Jack. *Envisions himself as THE Unstoppable Force* 😂
I’ll end with this - I truly believe that my purpose in this life is to point others towards the North Star. Not your North Star. Not my North Star. THE North Star.
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I agree with alot that you said too , especially
( You’re also completely correct when you said that we fold to pressure, albeit with nuance)
So true but he did say to whom so not to just anyone and nor does this mean in a fight , Se deals intimidation , threats aggressive force so i'm not the best physically making violent threats because my nervous system amps up and prepares me to fight if i do , nor am i good at throwing my weight around to force people to do things , we have fe to persuaded and inspire (which can mean emotional violence too)
but i wont aggressively put my hand on anyone and i will even let you touch me until its to rough like a dog (but also so i can feel you out i will allow you to hit me) are functions hsp and mirror neurons makes us great for brawling more than boxing and long rang war we can disassociate and take alot of damage as well mirror the aggression and strength of our opponent(well atleast us mesomorphs ) and reactive enneagram types (I've never lost a physical fight even while being jumped but i have lost battles of force assertiveness and aggression )
Question do you ever forget what you are good at ? because i think that falls in Te polr( like you said about losing skills )I don't feel like they are lost i just cannot recall them unless triggered. is this the case for you as well ?
Yeah I’d bet Se in #4th means adrenaline spikes somewhat prematurely 😂 definitely the case for me haha and I’m sure other people that aren’t our type. My brother is an ISFP, still negative Se like us he very much feels the fear but it isn’t nowhere near as much of a hindrance for him but I think Fi helps in that also.
I don’t know about forgetting what I’m good at as much as just not typically being aware of what I’m actually good at in terms of efficiency, I’ll say I’m better at something than you via the Se comparison. It might appear this way to you because also when situations are more intense our initiative to act is greater and we can recall our actions better. If I throw you this ball and you know if you drop it I’ll die I’m betting you catch that ball a lot more than you would without that variable.
@@theultimatedisciple7974 yeah true , ILI in particular , I have an isfp sister i would say same for her as your brother ,
Oh i agree in full when I'm pushed or angry , anger really works for me it helps me to focus and be present , but tbh its like you said its more reactionary the more I do it the worst I can get , LIke playing Naruto to Boruto i'm really good at seeing where things are going , but with all the lagging and mods, there are times when its all reactionary , like you get a general sense but there are still those variables (being ni subtype i have strong ne and te oppose to a fe subtype who has stronger fi and si ) some i can handle the ne-te components (and over time i will get a intuitive feel for the si maps) but nevertheless the Se stuff when they are coming down on you with the mods after awhile of a winning streak i start to make alot of (te-si)mistakes because it starts to become draining where as my EII brother doesn't have the same issues and in fact gets charged up especially because they are violating his Fi (he wants to play the game fair and on hard mode)
Have you ever watched xmen phoenix saga , when she went dark the line about feeling sensations she's never felt before , It's like that feeling alive for the first time everything becomes enhanced especially my libido , which doesn't make me aroused per say but animalistic entuned ..
Im a Ni subtype 4(w3)68sx/so (d type)HBu?
and wonder since we are both IEI will it go down like it says about identical relations lol
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso yeah we aren’t built to handle the details man especially the monotonous ones for long periods of time, leave that shit to the Si doms 😂 Ni doms are simply meant to set the destination, not necessarily steer the ship.
I haven’t fucked with films for a long time dude but I know what you mean haha, occasionally a series or anime but I rarely watch fiction now. I game way more than watch tv.
I don’t know my subtype like that but I subscribe to the CSJ notion (if it came from him) that we can dip into our unconscious/subconscious/super ego, Ive definitely been unconscious focused for quite some time now. For a long time I was stuck in my subconscious reaching for that ESTP dream lmao until I discovered MBTI/cognitive functions when I was 23 in 2019…was also the same year I tried psilocybin mushrooms for the first time that lead to a HEAVY spiritual awakening….years prior I Intuitively knew 23 was an important number for me haha, never imagined it to be that. I’ll also say that OP would most definitely type me as Ni/Ti S/C/B(P) - I’d consider myself quite Ti heavy but I’m trying to balance that.
How does it go down in when it comes to identical relations? 🤣
@@theultimatedisciple7974 Yeah im not about that life, its too draining , I wish people could communicate telepathically ( i dont like explaining myself)
Most films are crap now days so i feel you , I dont watch much fiction well not cartoon anyhow, I watch documentaries more (unless im binged watching something) other than that i read ,( I game too but too a lil break because of the damm Mods and Lagging was getting frustrating )
Oh you like CSJ (dont get me wrong he has alot of good point about type but he does not understand the functions at all and fiils it with alot of conjecture I remember we he first started we corresponded more , here and there we still do , hes annoying but I like not for typology I just like him I love my Lunatics)
It didn't come from him he stole the 4 sides of the mind from me and a article i wrote (thats why i deleted alot of my online information especially that i shared with him) I came up with it from reading shadow of type , which expressed the notion of a light shadow , that combined with beebees demom function and jung archetype of the double or male animus (we dont just have a anima) also Darios nothing of lets say you are a ni dom that means you have se , but ne is easier to access since it's intuitive but then you also have the connection to si . At first i started with just 3 side of the mind you know id ego superego but when i seen the super id of socionics it started to make me think and from that i discovered the real transcendent power of the demon/Deamon function ...
I have my estp moments im dualized (so you was stuck in your shadow ?) have you read the many faces of infj perhaps you was in the sp wannabe phase
oh damm , i originally found type in my teen , but again around the same age you were , but i also studied everything , have you read kerisey ? I'm 40 now tho , my heavy interactions Goes back to the same point of jack from the socionics( barry barracudas infj mbti group room more than 9-10 years ago
DJarendee (jay who went insane)podlair, nfgeeks, type tips , true generations , dave super powers before the grift with shannon , some people are still around most aren't
what happened during your awakening? (im still recovering from shaman sickness)Do you still play with shrooms ?
23 is 5 in numerology which is mercury (Lord Hermes)
so you probably a ni subtype too
something about we end up paying games with each other so to speak until we get bored lol
I’m an IEI who’s aiming to be an Aerospace Engineer
After studying various systems of personality for years, I never identified with any particular type until today. Reading the IEI description, every single sentence was exactly me. I've searched many years for some type classification that was entirely accurate.
As far as this video, everything is accurate as well. A draw to the esoteric/otherworldly/gothic/symbolic, mundane daily tasks and chores are beyond painful to the point of thinking I should have been born into royalty with servants, an interest in identifying grand underlying universal themes, diplomatic generally but more specifically able to build one on one intimacy with individuals which in certain dynamics like in the workplace I'm able to move certain chess pieces for desired outcomes- this usually involves not making allegiance to any one group but to individuals authentically and across all party lines thereby having trust and influence in many areas.
Glad you've found the right fit!
Zhou Shen is the deeper artist that gives me the feel and vibe I am reaching for.
He is amazing, and I 100% recommend listening to him.
This is the best, most accurate comment. Zhou Shen should be on the tests.
Even though I'm very good at learning how things work and working very efficiently, I completely relate to this entire second half of the Te section starting 9:36 onward. If I can get someone else to do the work for me, I will. That's efficiency afterall.
Hi, Jack!
You may not see this, but I just wanted to thank you for this video. I've been on the fence about whether I was an IEI or EII and was going back and forth repeatedly, but this video really cleared things up for me. While not everything discussed was 100% in line with my personality (which is probably just an inevitable consequence of trying to use a psychological model to describe everyone), I certainly felt that I identified very strongly with your description of the IEI, much more so than that of the EII.
Now I feel I can start more firmly on the process of psychological development, knowing where I'm coming from. So, thank you for that!
Glad it's helped!
The mystic :( I accept i do practice mysticism I am a shaman(seer) ( a legit one )psychopomp and Gnostic (psychospiritual)Witch
NI: Active imagination, foresight , Ocular visons, collective unconscious's , Prophecy , archetypes psychometry ,clairvoyance ,premonitions ,Symbolism presentiments ( I was a gothic vamp in my teens) no mention of the dreams ?( i guess everyone can lucid dream now days)
Fe :empathic relationships , charisma & charm , diplomacy (diplomacy is from the nf temperament) shapeshifting ,survivors (the only one to beat me in survivor is perhaps eii)
SI: The momma in the betas , I am tidy but its true I do struggle and need help i will cry i will throw a fit and resent you
TE: right paired with si ( I don't struggle with theory that's abstract) Facts can be misleading depending on how you position them as facts don't mean truth looks at media look at history books , and why should i do those things i do need servants and thats true i'm looking for insights more than the practicalities someone else will solve that
I hate inventory i mess up my counts ..
Se: true all true , im not fully submissive to just anyone its to the people you suggested Power & strength is sexy , but only if you have real force will i yield never to weaklings. I dont need help pretending .
Yeah i can take alot not easily broken , nor fearful of the big bad I Love the Bad types ( I love Dc LOBO or Ares God of war)
TI: Yes this is all that matters , Death before dishonor , Die on my feet rather than on my knees , Let what you love kill you , Principal are everything , if you can change me then i already died , atleast if i die on my own i can be free in death no matter how you write about me after . Intellectually aggressive
Ne: True i really dont care about everyone personal opinions and beliefs , yes i will explore until i find what i am looking for , and i will dismiss what doesn't line up
FI: true i wasn't always academic about it , yes befriend specific people to whom i want to get close to i will make myself likeable (akatsuki)
Good job
you did it the right way you even mention over time Thank you Buddy
I approve this type was explained cognitively correctly
Intellectually aggressive 😂😂😂 facts.
I can tell you’re definitely the same type as me haha this is all facts. Especially the Te part, how the fuck do YOU know that the fact you just read, is a fact, fool? We know some history/science is false, so what is your tool for reliably discerning what other history/science is true/false? Do you have the resources or even the intelligence to reenact to get to these conclusions yourself to verify? “Why would they lie to us?” 😂😂😂
@@theultimatedisciple7974 not for the worldly wisdom , I try to be objective & rational even reasonable I think thats good enough The gift of Prophecy and the gift of Discernment works just fine for me the shit ive survived
@@Heyokasireniei468sxsoAt this point dude my Ni/Ti tells me even the notion of objectivity is somewhat unreasonable as all comes from a subjective fragmented lens of what I call me or what I perceive even though what I am might only be what I perceive if that makes sense. Yeah we all see the Apple on the floor but that’s conducive to the “headset” we are wearing that grounds us to this reality; we actually know that the Apple isn’t there only in our subjective experience is it or anything really there. Just like the double split experiment; the nature of things change depending on whether you’re actively witnessing a thing or not. Research Girdles theorem if you haven’t already Donald Hoffman I think is his name knows a lot about that stuff. I just watched him with Tom Bilyeu from Impact Theory. God is the nothingness, the base 0 that allows form (1 - infinite). With that being said is all reality not completely subjective? Thus making it completely objective again?? 😂😂😂😂 duality. The maker hides behind the black and white curtains.
@@theultimatedisciple7974 Well i agree with you(yes it make sense to me) There truly isn't anything that we can call objective that doesn't arise an internal feeling of conviction as its source of empiricism one can say , no matter what line of logic there is a feeling behind it for they are in axis with each other.
Well that's like active imagination and the green screen , Its in our mind and our body follows to its reactions . That in truth what is a purple dragon to a blind person who has never had sight to know purple ,even if they could fathom the dragon .
More over, its not that they could not come up with some construct to fit the emotional affect , because its all just electrical signals in the brain right ?So who's to say what we imagine in that moment intensely isnt so .
Especially if we engage in the spiritual realms ,even more so the realm of vibrations and signals be it spiritual or radio, to which you cannot see, yet can burn you if you are to close.
It seems at the end of it all ,we are left with our experiences .
Just lets say some supernatural event happen to you , just because no one else took witness or took part of it does it make it any less true no ,
but if you have no proof for the way people need to believe in something evidence, facts to convince them they will call you crazy .
Yet unless you have some accolade to give you creditability.
(many people called insane to believe in ufos , then truth comes out about military weapons but ufos propaganda as cover ups yet now we are back to having a branch of the government for ufos) So who da fuck knows shit could be real might not be real (but whats true about it at its core what is the meaning of aliens)
i'm willing to believe everything and yet believe in nothing ,but thats fine because what i care about is the truth and even if its discovered thru abstraction imagination knowledge and feeling there is still a sensation and experience that one should go thru like dropping acid one should be changed in some way with such a experience to present as truth
because on our death beds this is all that will matter to us is how we perceived how we lived and what we experienced ,
we decide that .
@@theultimatedisciple7974 von franz divination and synchronicity as archetypes kinda its in more of his spiritual nifeti stuff have you read memories dreams and reflections?
INFP here who is just beginning my journey into the realm of Meyers & Briggs 16 personalities based upon Carl Jung's 4 cognitive functions. I have an increasing fascination with everything about this discipline along with all of the peripheral ideas and interpretations that branch out from the core cognitive functions. I watch scores of videos everyday on the topic to the extent where I am now starting to develop my own ideas about definations that could be added here and there or ones that might need removal from a certain type's spectrum. Please be clear that i understand they are simply my opinions and may not be accurate or valid for application towards the functions. It's more an exercise in priming my mind into a deepening involvement with this subject. That's my intro to you dude. Now i'll disclose what led me to your videos. First it was your topic titles that are approaches i hadn't come across yet. Also the phrase "explained correctly" in your videos' headings resonates with my inclination to refine, redefine and rearrange any idea out there with other possibilties.
I started with your video explaining introverted sensing because i have a friend who is an ISFJ. He's currently homeless and i was hoping to spark an interest in this topic. I felt taking this subject seriously could lead him to gain deeper insights regarding his behaviors and intentions. Which in turn would hopefully provide a work around for certain internal processes that i believe are holding him back. I'm concerned about him because it seems he has resigned himself to being homeless therefore thwarting any ambition to procure work and housing.
I read material about his ISFJ type to him and we watched a couple of videos covering his type. We had both agreed on certain traits that were definite matches to his personality and it aroused a mild interest from him for the subject. Yet there was a lot of descriptions that were very hard to grasp or connect to any kind of behaviour. Unfortunately it dampened the flint and prevented any sparks of deeper interest to ignite within himself. I intend to readdress the topic of introverted sensing with him by using your updated definitions and see how that lands.
Reverting back to me; Your updates inadvertantly created somewhat of an identity crisis for me that i hope you can provide further details about what led you to correct the INFP's cognitive block from introverted feeling and extroverted intution into a reversed flip. I rooted so deeply into all things INFP with unwavering belief the type and it's current trending stack is the right fit for me. Adopting a different stack arrangement could cause my personality to splinter into multiple ones, lol. Just kidding but it is a metaphor indicating just how hard a transition might be. Yet I'm driven to go with correct stack which ever one it is. Any further information supporting your stated stack for INFP's may help buffer the change. Thanks for your time in reading my text. Peace
You might benefit from watching INFJ explained correctly and seeing if it describes you better than INFP explained correctly, or not. Ultimately, it makes much more sense for IxxP types to have a Perceiving dominant function in the same way they have an Introverted dominant function. That's the basis of it.
Are you speaking of the mbti INFJ, or the socionics INFP here? New subscriber, enjoying your channel very much. So happy I found it.
Oh terribly sorry, never mind, I get it now after watching the infj video. I am new at socionics 😮💨
No worries :) I'm making a deeper point, which is that MBTI types aren't logically coherent and should be dispensed with.
I think you are right. I ‘ve hesitated to dive into socionics, because I haven’t even fully absorbed mbti, but perhaps this is why I haven’t. The socionics approach seems more logical and intuitive to me, and to have greater practical and abstract application. It’s like microsoft vs apple, apple being the more intuitive and holistic system. I beat my head against the wall with microsoft for years. The only thing I miss is Paint, which was actually very simple, pure, and nice. @@WorldSocionics
I miss paint too...
The idea that people need to master MBTI before they are ready for Socionics is a hindering belief. If anything, getting too into MBTI will make things harder to get into Socionics because it will then require more unlearning so that misassociations aren't then carried over.@@alteredcatscyprus
It sure does sound like he is describing an INFP in MBTI. It sounds like he flipping the generally accepted P and the J definitions, because his description here sounds much like the INFJ in MBTI, and his INFJ video sounds like the generally accepted definition of the INFP in MBTI.
I think Jack is on his own in this description.
Socionics had helped me to understand myself sm! While Im still in my mbti era (Im an Infp btw) I’ve always wondered why I use Ni, Ti sm and now it makes sm sense bc Ive always thought my real stack in mbti should be Ni - Fi - Ti - Se. The way the functions r interpreted in socionics also makes more sense to me. For ex Ive always wondered, from the biological evolutionary standpoint, how r functions like Fi, Se in the mbti definition be useful for our survival instinct in order to evolve. In socionics definition instead of how personal vs less personal u view the material world its abt quantity and refinement which made me go ooh, bc my question had been solved. For ex in prehistoric time humans had to stick in groups to survive (Fe) and whenever a conflict broke out in a group the analysis of each individual motive and morality must be implemented to cast away the bad (Fi), same thing abt socionics Se/Si bc I just find the Se in mbti definition to be quite lacking
Glad Socionkcs is giving you the answers you seek. Why not come out of the MBTI era into a Socionic golden age?
amazing work
it's like you are talking to me new subscriber very interesting i can watch more of your content
Do you have any thoughts for someone who keeps getting typed as IEI, but who has some serious problems with that typing? For example, I don't think I value Se at all. I'm firmly anti-hierarchical and have nothing but disdain for those who force their will on others. I also have minimal ability to manipulate others' emotions, and absolutely zero desire to do so.
I've considered EII as well, but there are things about that don't fit, either. I'm too much of a fighter, for one. I'm perfectly willing to throw down for my beliefs in a way an EII might not be. I'm also not dutiful, as hard as I try to be.
Everyone who's typed me has concluded I'm some kind of NF, usually IEI, but none of them seem to quite fit.
sure you're not ILI?
I offer a paid typing service if you're stuck.
@@WorldSocionics Interesting theory, though I'm reasonably sure I'm a feeler. But I'll look into it.
I don't know if I can quite afford a paid typing service, but that's good to know. Maybe when I've saved up a bit I'll hit you up.
How about Te valuing? Do you resonate with Te suggestive, specifically?
@@mushkinss I know this is crazy late, sorry, but I just saw this now. Yes, Te suggestive does resonate with me. I often seek out advice on how to accomplish the things I need/want to accomplish, as I rarely know how on my own. For example, I'm trying to write a novel, but I feel like I need to write an outline before I can start on the writing proper, and I'm kind of overwhelmed with all the options for how to outline. So I haven't even really started an outline yet, because I need to decide on which kind to try, but I don't know HOW to decide, especially when one considers there are certain things about me (like having ADHD) that may affect the process.
Firmly typing Mother Teresa and Gandhi based on behavior is what Causal Determinalism is all about.
+ Ti = "The correct way to...."
Why is it I see you in a lot of place but no one responds to you or hardly ? Like why do you never get any likes ? Are they ignoring you? Did you do something?
You don't have to answer this but how does it feel to be that ignored? I ask because I feel bad for you I'm not making fun
@@Itsmesmileyface that's fair kinda like graffiti art
@@tricksterwitch IMO I think he sometimes get most of his information from CSJ and sometimes I think he comments on other typology channels as means of trolling them by saying whatever CSJ said recently or four five years ago whether it’s the definition of how he defines cognitive functions or what certain celebrity type is.
@@Wimbledon-Tennismatch oh a csj cultist got it lol smh
@@tricksterwitch yeah. I saw him comment on TWFP calling him an ESTP cus CSJ “typed him accordingly” through his own type grid. I also don’t think he’s a INTP like he claims to be or even LII but that’s just my opinion
I'm an IEI who likes to listen to trance music, make music and smoke weed ;)
I would have to disagree with the Perceiving vs Judging notion. To me, someone having an EXTROVERTED judging function in their Ego Block would classify them as a J. Fe and Te are both outward focused functions, and can often aid as tools with leader like qualities. Likewise, a type with an EXTROVERTED perceiving function in their Ego Block should be classified as a P.
As an ENFP (Te being my tertiary), it is much more uncomfortable for me to do something such as lead, or organize something such as a group of people, than it would be for an MBTI INTJ with Te being their secondary
If anyone disagrees with this, I'd love to know why
Were you able to watch the video? You've kind of rehashed the very argument this video responds to.
Also the idea that an INTP with Ni-Te would be good at organising a group of people is very unusual. They don't have the personal presence or social impact. They also just aren't interested if they can just work independently.
You may want to watch Extraverted Thinking explained correctly as it has nothing to do with organising people. It's a socially independent, evidence based, pragmatic approach to the world.
I'm typed as a divergent TiNi ENFJ in CPT but the INFP (as there isn't a straightforward overlap) seems like one of my most likely types in socionics. It's worth noting in CPT i have a highly conscious TiSi subnetwork. If there is a correlate I'm not sure that Ti is valued but not a strength of this type as this does not seem to be born out in reality; rather Ni acts at the the behest of Ti and is the 'INFPs' agency function especially in convergent subtypes. CPT would also contest that their world is one of images rather Ni-Ti is a cerebral dialogue; symbolism is applicable much more to the MBTI equivalent of the INTJ. There's areas where we converge & disagree here. Ps mother Theresa was definitely not an INFP lol
I think that when we figure out your type, we won't need subtypes and subnetworks to make sense of it.
ok this is correct description of me tested infp in mbti test but cognitive function in mbti is bs, im doubting what are the purpose of those youtubers making vjdeo about mbti.cognitive function
Ni doms are also Chart the course(linda Berens) along with LSI and SLI
It's weird though two ni Dom's one to dom and one si dom like what's the connection. Different temperaments different thinking style but all introverted
@@gabriellucus2915 I assume you mean Ti dom and idk ask Linda Berens if she ever finishes her video series
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso yeah
It doesnt make any sense and there isnt really a connection that is accurate @gabriellucus2915
@@gabriellucus2915.
How does one recognize the differences between IEI and EIE?
I'm confused here since it's well known info that INFPs dominant function is introverted feeling and extroverted intuition as the auxiliary.
What is well known is not necessarily true. The MBTI gets a lot wrong. How can a P have a Judging function as their Dominant function, the key lens that shapes their motivations and understanding of the world?
The premise of this Explained Correctly series is that you need to be willing to unlearn the bad habits from MBTI. That is how you can then construct a more coherent view of Jungian type.
I don’t understand these videos on my type.
My type is very much into self improvement. It’s just the areas we try to improve are not always seen or valued by other types. At least not in the front of their brain. They take the benefit.
My Ni and Ti are also always systematizing to make things more efficient.
It’s just that the goal of our efficiency is a blind spot or irrelevant for most types. But again, they enjoy the benefit.
I also can’t understand the power thing. I have absolutely folded at times. Not because I respect the power. I do not. It’s because I hate conflict. And I see everyone’s perspective with my Ni and will imagine myself in the other persons place and my Fe will not want to hurt them, by allowing them to hurt me. Something I and many with my type need to overcome.
Other times I allow the power over me because, although uncomfortable, and possibly unjust, my suffering serves a greater purpose.
Take a look at INFJ explained correctly, see if it's a better fit. It's very common for these two types to be mixed up, and you sound a lot like the other.
I prefer the romantic
🥰 the lyricist is nice too
Hey this is me, lovely.
I would like to make a list of known mystics, for refering to in the future. Feel free to add to this list. Mystics that I know of are:
Eckhart Tolle
Adolf Hitler
John F Kennedy
Carl Yung
Alan Watts
These I'm pretty sure of, some speculations are:
Jim Carrey,
Charlie Chaplin
Russel Brand
Joe Rogan
Feel free to correct me aswell.
With as much SE as you like, I don't mind :)
this list makes no sense JFK? you must not be American Jim carrey wtf ? Charlie Chaplin the pedo are you sure you understand mysticism no stan lee no Bruce less lol you are are hilarious
I think a good number of Icons are in this list.
@@WorldSocionics Don juan, Aleister Crowley, Buddha, Confucius, George Ivanovich Gurdjieff, Helena Blavatsky, Hermann Hesse, yeats, Rumi, Joan of Arc, Khalil Gibran, Nostradamus, plato, Pythagoras, St. Teresa of Avila, Thomas, Solomon, Jesus, Crazy Horse this would be a better list of actual mystics oh and I Forgot me lol
@@Heyokasireniei468sxso you think Buddha was INFJ? I think he was INTJ. The reason being; he was concerned with helping people dropping the ego (the actual accomplishing of said act; Te) not to necessarily help them to understand or even understand for himself. I’m quite confident on that but not as confident as Jesus/Plato being INFJ. Jordan Peterson is the most famous INFJ we have currently (that I’m rock solid on at least).
Alan Watts and Russel Brand = ENFP
Jim Carey = ENTP
Joe Rogan = ESTP
Hitler = I thought INFJ but Jack made some good points recently that makes me think he was ENFJ
These people are way too chaotic to be Ni doms.
Can you explain Sli?
Give me a few weeks
@@WorldSocionics take time, I'm sure that you would be back with great content.
Dude you don't see the pattern ? Are you sli?
@@gabriellucus2915 wdym?
@@Lonewolf_77 wdym? Are you a sli bro?
if INFP has INFJ functions than why do I feel so much as Introverted feelings and don't care about others since entroverted feelings make us care about others.
and why do I always use extroverted Intuition so much?
I can't resonate with this theory
Well, maybe you will resonate better with the INFJ explained correctly video.
Correct title: "INFp - "Mystic" - IEI - Not what you think it is"
Use of lower case is like an animal becoming nocturnal because it cannot compete in the daylight. It's inherently sub-optimal.
You know Ben, I have a theory that Jack doesn't understand the importance of such things because his Ti is subservient to his Ne, thus mostly used to categorize things he has explored, providing meaning, such that he can explore further. But people that have Ne subservient to their Ti put the logical structures before them and then explore to verify and (even if they won't want to recognize this part in some cases) further understand those structures, especially true of INTP's and ISFJ's due to their Si.
I think that he thinks he is doing no harm because he has not experienced the harm, but is likely to break the landscape in ways that even if he succeeds would turn off many people that have a different configuration with their Ti.
It surprises me that we don't realize how different types are, and yet this is supposed to be a study in which we try to understand such things.
@Realities of Typology I think MBTI itself is harmful, and the sooner it is overwritten, the better for all. I have seen first hand how it's oversimplicity and inability to separate value from strength can be used to harm and lead people astray.
@@WorldSocionics If you're going to basically call every non-socionics view of typology "MBTI" because they use the most capable 4 letter naming convention which the creators of MBTI made, then I'm going to start calling socionics "Russian MBTI".
You want this to be an argument of logic, but really that ship has sailed and you aren't even logically identifying things. So you've made it an argument of morals as you try to slide by with that sort of mental gymnastics, and you don't win either. I love your work in general though.
@@realitiesoftypology7502 "because his Ti is subservient to his Ne, thus mostly used to categorize things he has explored," - I don't think he's empirical at all. I agree with him that his neuroticism is very low. Thus he uses a lot of the Ti Assertive subfunction.
I'm empirical in part due to my enneagram 6 fixation. I want evidence.
Remember that Jack defines thinking as "external". By stating it doesn't need to be reinterpreted, he is saying he sees zero subjective factor in it, and thus that semantics and semiotics don't exist because the word is made flesh.
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Can an IEI be ans istp in mbti?
just read both types and take ur conclusion
So this is a Mbti infj? And a mbti infp would be an infj?
They're two different systems and they don't translate directly into one another.
@@aconithorn7670 gotcha. Any recommendations for a test?
@@alliarsenic Personally I use keys2cognition or sakinorva for MBTI and aimtoknow for socionics, but studying to find your type on your own is always miles better
I offer diagnostic interviews as a robust way of finding out one's socionics type.
Well, it's more that MBTI got the types wrong. INFP and INFJ are written incoherently. This is the REAL INFP.
Howe Isle
Durgan Drives
Aaliyah Isle
Seems like SLI is the most boring type, and IEI is the most insufferable type.
Why boring and why insufferable ? Are you a free spirited atheist?