21:21 "The one great thing about Smash is that even though there's always gonna be low-tiers, on any list, you can always count on a Japanese guy showing up and destroying people with them." Words of wisdom right there
Sonicソニック That was me :) It’s from my crowd reaction video I regret not keeping the camera steady at that part, but the hype in the crowd was through the roof so I jerked my hand up in excitement when zaki won.
Simon Lin i never said there was anything wrong with it. but camping out a mac like that for over two minutes? i get that a single uptilt/jab/dtilt could’ve been death, but sonic can be extremely hard to punish on the ground if komo could nail it correctly. i get that was his best chance at winning but it just seemed especially scumbaggy
Blame Takumi Still, he is playing to win using Sonic’s strong camping and exploiting Mac’s short range. And when he got into his range, he quickly died from a down tilt Ko punch.
How do you end up in an internet argument with someone with the _exact same_ profile picture, and have it not be the default picture? How is it even possible?
Mistake was playing with his food game 1, and got his ass beat as a result. I find his playstyle infuriating for that reason, to the point where I can't actually watch his matches because they piss me off too much.
worldsboss yeah when he started to make a name for himself he was okay to watch. Just another bayonetta. but now he is so arrogant and disrespectful. Its disgusting
It’s so crazy to see Komo’s Cloud run at another opponent the second the time starts, opposed to his Sonic running away from a Little Mac for 2 minutes
People HIGHLY underestimate the utility of Ganons aerial side-b. It’s a faster version of his grounded version that still lands him in the upper hand of a tech chase.
Also I feel like players somehow inherit their mains personality sometimes. Like some bayo players inherit a cocky ego filled attitude and some sonic players get a god complex
I don't know, pal.. Sonic isn't as selfish as you'd think, at least he wasn't back in the day, about the modern one, he's just annoying, that's for sure.
Yeah my friend who mains sonic actually doesn't like the character since he said something similar to God complex he said it months ago which makes it hard to remember
the first 2 with Komo and Mistake pissed me off. Komo was camping out Mac so hard and Mistake sandbagged, at least i´m happy he got that what he deserves game 3 when he actually tried vs Keitaro.
Sonic's sheer speed would've allowed a player to get in on Little Mac and make him lose KO since he can't hold it after a few seconds. After that, even if he would've lost, approaching Little Mac would've been a wiser option. Forcing him to chase you (and opting not to sneak in an attack that would cause Mac to stumble and lose KO) was a poor choice. It only led to the Mac player being able to read the fleeing Sonic's escape pattern and catch him accordingly.
ESAM has stated that he doesn't like fighting game and watch and the match up does seem pretty even. However, this video is based on tiers no on specific outlier matchups
25:38 ayy it’s my crown reaction video! Here is all of Game 3: ua-cam.com/video/S1u7YbVBVjA/v-deo.html I didn’t record K9sbruce vs. Rickles, but I managed to record all of the stock, character, and stage data to put it on the subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/8tjs6j/2gg_hyrule_saga_losers_top_96_k9sbruce_vs_hpt/?st=JJKN8JFA&sh=e5d55e21
3:40 pay close attention to bayos up-b's and doublejumps.... did i miss something or did he doublejump into up-b, then up b'd again and then jumped again to the ledge??
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pac-Man. The moveset is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the neutral will go over a typical player's head. There's also Pac-Man's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his play-style- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The mains understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his play-style, to realise that it's not just difficult- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who really think Pac-Man is low-tier truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Pac-Man's signature tool, the Spaceship from "Galaga," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Masahiro Sakurai's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂 And yes, by the way, i DO have a Pac-Man And The Ghostly Adventures tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
@@citizenvulpes4562 Depends on who you are asking. Everyone has different motivations. Could be that he just messed up. This comment is so old I don't even remember what happened, not going to rewatch it either.
The first match was a common occurrence between a friend and I at my local tournament. I was the mac, and even though went back and forth, I usually came out on top
People in the comments dissing Komo I swear. Mac is the lamest and worst designed character. Your best option is to outlame him in every aspect. Komo literally lost because he didn’t outlame him enough. He played more aggressive than he had to to beat Mac.
I don’t understand why people are so butthurt about Komo camping out that Little Mac. Like I know it’s not fun to watch, but when you’re competing at a tournament of that size and you have a legitimate shot of winning serious money, why wouldn’t you give yourself every advantage to win?
Maybe tournaments would be a contest of skill like they used to be in other fgc fighting games if sakurai balanced his characters, no offense to sakurai and his team
God, that Sonic was just agitating to have to watch. I think we can fix this though if we all join hands and get mad at any footage that shows Bayonetta winning.
antonio39777 he's meant to struggle because of his poor neutral, (which is pretty true) lack of tools that made him great in old games(sh lasers, sh dair, chaingrabs, shine) and somewhat poor recovery. Though as a Falco main, I think he's mid tier his combos are really good and he still has the best b-air in the game so idk
K so komo camped because he dies at 0 from one down tilt. If someone traveled all the way from Japan what would you do. Approach the little Mac and very possibly just lose or run away from little Mac so you don't die at 0. This was at a major btw.
21:21 "The one great thing about Smash is that even though there's always gonna be low-tiers, on any list, you can always count on a Japanese guy showing up and destroying people with them."
Words of wisdom right there
SWKong remember AmsA's run at Apex?
Japanese pocket ice climbers
ZAKI: yes
24:21 "It's the voice of God!" my favorite part
That guy did a freaking backflip at 25:41.
Sonicソニック That was me :) It’s from my crowd reaction video
I regret not keeping the camera steady at that part, but the hype in the crowd was through the roof so I jerked my hand up in excitement when zaki won.
Meester Tweester Dude you have some serious acrobatic skills and know how to keep the hype up to 💯. I'm impressed!
Sonicソニック Thanks!
Meester Tweester You're welcome
Meester Tweester you mean you did the backflip? Or you had the video from the crowd?
Did that Sonic really try to time out the player with 2 minutes on the clock.
God that's cancerous.
they're a sonic, what do you expect
It happens entirely too often.
@@benryder2537 not every Sonic plays like this
@@fordgt5383 either that or be using spin dash 90% of the time
Zike if playing optimally is cancer you need to change your definition of cancer
oh my god. komo was always a campy sonic, but... come on man...
Blame Takumi Absolutely nothing wrong with playing to win
Simon Lin i never said there was anything wrong with it. but camping out a mac like that for over two minutes? i get that a single uptilt/jab/dtilt could’ve been death, but sonic can be extremely hard to punish on the ground if komo could nail it correctly. i get that was his best chance at winning but it just seemed especially scumbaggy
Blame Takumi Still, he is playing to win using Sonic’s strong camping and exploiting Mac’s short range. And when he got into his range, he quickly died from a down tilt Ko punch.
How do you end up in an internet argument with someone with the _exact same_ profile picture, and have it not be the default picture? How is it even possible?
Isaac The Red lol
Mistake was playing with his food game 1, and got his ass beat as a result. I find his playstyle infuriating for that reason, to the point where I can't actually watch his matches because they piss me off too much.
worldsboss Same
worldsboss yeah when he started to make a name for himself he was okay to watch. Just another bayonetta. but now he is so arrogant and disrespectful. Its disgusting
I think it's really fun to see them messing around a bit
My friend, that was not messing around, that is called
"being a non-confrontational bitch"
I'll be honest, at this point I keep hoping the next fistbump with him turns into a punch that knocks a few teeth loose.
komo stalling out a little mac made me hurt
He did it to Cagt at Shine 2017. First person viewer here, and lemme tell you... Was low as heeeeeeck.
Bronze Star It's how you play the MU on a stage with platforms.
Cool. Barely makes it any better.
You gotta admit though, Mac is lame. The key to beating him is to outlame him.
I dunno why people are acting like "poor little mac" considering komo died at 10%
Oh hey I made it (I'm the Mac that beat Komo :D)
Good job
Cagt3000 well earned
Thank you for putting him in his place lmao
Good shit dude!
Nice!
zaki is a goddamn legend
It’s so crazy to see Komo’s Cloud run at another opponent the second the time starts, opposed to his Sonic running away from a Little Mac for 2 minutes
Huh its like he plays hes characters based on their strengths. Weird
Lol gey
No likes lol
@@eddiepretzel1501 uh, that last comment didn't age well..
People HIGHLY underestimate the utility of Ganons aerial side-b. It’s a faster version of his grounded version that still lands him in the upper hand of a tech chase.
Also I feel like players somehow inherit their mains personality sometimes. Like some bayo players inherit a cocky ego filled attitude and some sonic players get a god complex
I don't know, pal.. Sonic isn't as selfish as you'd think, at least he wasn't back in the day, about the modern one, he's just annoying, that's for sure.
Yeah my friend who mains sonic actually doesn't like the character since he said something similar to God complex he said it months ago which makes it hard to remember
Komo deserved it
When a Bayo loses to a Falco.
*Falco perfers the air Bayo*
the first 2 with Komo and Mistake pissed me off. Komo was camping out Mac so hard and Mistake sandbagged, at least i´m happy he got that what he deserves game 3 when he actually tried vs Keitaro.
sonic is so lame
Worst 3rd party character in Smash
So, basically top-tiers.
Komorikiri is aggravating to watch. I know he is playing to win but seriously, that's just sad Man
and thus zaki forever cemented himself in sm4sh history before the dawn of a new game
21:22 this is what you came here for.
Hi yes i am sonic main and i am cancer of smash
No no no no. Sonic is fine. Bayonetta on the other hand...
@@BerryHuttz idk man... did you watch the first clip?
@@colinbeumer3618 literally any character in the game can camp mac
I felt satisfied for keitaro
Oh no no this didn’t age well
@@garper3254 how? He wasnt the one exposed was he?
@@SaviOnUA-cam He admitted to having sex with a minor .
Zaki is a god.
Some Guy zaki is amazing, fuck mk Leo, he’s a play to win sell out bitch.
@@fgclash454 like most tourney players wtf
@@fgclash454 play.. to win? Isnt that just what competitive is? You play a lot to win
The DeDeDe fight with Cloud was the most intense match I've ever seen.
When you’re so afraid of losing that you camp put a little mac
when you take a long ass flight from Japan and don’t want to die at 0%
That Dedede player was, WOW!!!!
Sonic's sheer speed would've allowed a player to get in on Little Mac and make him lose KO since he can't hold it after a few seconds. After that, even if he would've lost, approaching Little Mac would've been a wiser option. Forcing him to chase you (and opting not to sneak in an attack that would cause Mac to stumble and lose KO) was a poor choice. It only led to the Mac player being able to read the fleeing Sonic's escape pattern and catch him accordingly.
alright, point taken, only camp Mac if he has his KO Punch.
Komorikiri with sonic is so lame omfg
7:56 some say that Pon is still going to this very day
My boi AC making Falco look like a high tier
So basically, like he used to be?
@@imbatrossthescrub2096 yeah in melee
JakeyStar 2020!
Well in melee was top tier not high tier, same for brawl
I wish zaki would've won that tournament
mistake sending himself to losers was a good sight
25:48 Guy in the red shirt doing a flip is the true hero.
I don't really consider Pikachu losing to a Game and Watch an upset. The match up is pretty even, if not slightly in G&W's favor.
CanadianBaconPwnage An upset is an upset based on player versus player.
ESAM has stated that he doesn't like fighting game and watch and the match up does seem pretty even. However, this video is based on tiers no on specific outlier matchups
Zaki vs MKleo was so hype.
Inb4 smash cave steals this video as well
TheLazerblazer they stole a lot didn't they. Shouldn't they be reported?
oussama mrissa I reported it
8:26 was that a pivot u-tilt? is it hard in sm4sh?
He’s the king of the land it’s all under his command hail to Dedede
25:41 But that backflip tho!
25:38 ayy it’s my crown reaction video! Here is all of Game 3: ua-cam.com/video/S1u7YbVBVjA/v-deo.html
I didn’t record K9sbruce vs. Rickles, but I managed to record all of the stock, character, and stage data to put it on the subreddit: www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/8tjs6j/2gg_hyrule_saga_losers_top_96_k9sbruce_vs_hpt/?st=JJKN8JFA&sh=e5d55e21
What's the song that starts at 1:33 called?
5:45 was super satisfying. Mistake was playing with his food and got punished for it.
2:25 this is justice
Song at the 1:30 mark?
I will never understand why people take 60fps videos and reupload them at 30fps.
If there is noticeable lag, maybe?
@@dayandere2669 There would still be lag at 30fps then
Most editing software doesn't default to 60 unless the original clip in the timeline is at 60 FPS, so that probably has something to do with it.
3:03 high octane, enthusiastic commentary over here
That Zaki upset is why I main Dedede to this day
25:42 That fucking backflip though
That thumbnail is what all Dededes want to be
"You can always count on a Japanese guy to destroy with low-tiers"
3:40 pay close attention to bayos up-b's and doublejumps.... did i miss something or did he doublejump into up-b, then up b'd again and then jumped again to the ledge??
later on in the fight he did it again up-b into up-b into double jump, which is not possible
Possible for bayo
TFW i tested it, i could not double up b what so ever unless i did a jump between
Ally confirmed washed up.
Volting Master Shut Up
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Pac-Man. The moveset is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the neutral will go over a typical player's head. There's also Pac-Man's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his play-style- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The mains understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of his play-style, to realise that it's not just difficult- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who really think Pac-Man is low-tier truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Pac-Man's signature tool, the Spaceship from "Galaga," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Masahiro Sakurai's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
And yes, by the way, i DO have a Pac-Man And The Ghostly Adventures tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
... I would like to believe this comment is not real but this is the internet you know...
@@thedanishviking88 Look up Rick and Morty copypasta.
A Pac-man and the ghostly adventures tattoo… so your a man of culture too i see….
Did he call Ragnell a claymore?
Wtf is wrong with the sonic player in the first clip? Why is he doing anything but fighting?
Lol. Mistake is so pathetic. Trying to be fancy with a top tier just to get embarrassed. He should just quit now
Michael Cortez I thought he was just trying to have fun, that is the point of video games after all.
Delusional Cloud That is true
@@Boolahan when you're at a tournament money is on the line. Having fun is secondary in that environment, while winning is number 1.
@@citizenvulpes4562 Depends on who you are asking. Everyone has different motivations. Could be that he just messed up. This comment is so old I don't even remember what happened, not going to rewatch it either.
@@Boolahan fair enough, have a nice day.
Idk why anyone ever liked komo. Easily the lamest 2gg player
23:39 What on Earth is that nightmarish fox creature in the middle of the crowd?!
10:23 - “Invincible Bruh”
Keitaro vs Mistake doesn't count
2:32 that sonic deserved every last bit of that. Campy little shit
The first match was a common occurrence between a friend and I at my local tournament. I was the mac, and even though went back and forth, I usually came out on top
As a ike's main player, im really happy to see Ryo destroying asses with ike.
You could rename this video "Miracles are a thing"
skills are a thing*
Ike and Roy don't count as low tiers whenever Ryo is using them. XD
Yo, can we ban stalling?
No Glutonny vs Fatality SMH. I know this may only be recent matches but come on
Is it a bad thing that all my mains and secondaries were in this video?
EEBE not at all
People in the comments dissing Komo I swear. Mac is the lamest and worst designed character. Your best option is to outlame him in every aspect. Komo literally lost because he didn’t outlame him enough. He played more aggressive than he had to to beat Mac.
Damn bro I hope Komo sees this
Surprised you didn’t put in sinji taking a set off dabuz
One of Sinji's wins against Dabuz was in part 1, but he has another win or 2 that could be in a part 3.
Oh didn’t know it was in part one. Thanks
Inb4 one hour of raito gameplay
You can clearly see keitaro and mistake smiling and messing with each other
I don’t understand why people hate on Komo so much like the Mac didn’t almost have KO punch when he initiated the camping LOL
That sonic was just running away the whole time...
when i saw the tile i immediately thought prince ramen
Does anyone still miss smash 4?
no
I do
Bayo killed smash
Idk who the low tiers are even suppose to be
Some characters here are clearly worse statistically
I don’t understand why people are so butthurt about Komo camping out that Little Mac. Like I know it’s not fun to watch, but when you’re competing at a tournament of that size and you have a legitimate shot of winning serious money, why wouldn’t you give yourself every advantage to win?
I get what you're saying, but camping at the 2 min mark when you're 0% is kinda pathetic
Maybe tournaments would be a contest of skill like they used to be in other fgc fighting games if sakurai balanced his characters, no offense to sakurai and his team
Bro Sonic vs Mac with super armor and KO (and Mac have an isntakill combo tnks to this)
That was soo unfair for sonic i would run too
Igani I wouldn't say unfair, but little mac has some good stuff to his kit.
Camron Cook Neither player moved. They both did what was safest for them. In another fighting game they would be throwin projectiles at that point.
Im a Dedede main. He's tragically underrated.
imagine you're playing marth and losing to someone named larry
Recover high keitaro
Wb anti vs benson obama???
I like how the commentators never talk about keitaros sdi that shit is insane
God, that Sonic was just agitating to have to watch. I think we can fix this though if we all join hands and get mad at any footage that shows Bayonetta winning.
If it says "upset", K9S Bruce BETTER be on it
Why is falco low tier
antonio39777 he's meant to struggle because of his poor neutral, (which is pretty true) lack of tools that made him great in old games(sh lasers, sh dair, chaingrabs, shine) and somewhat poor recovery. Though as a Falco main, I think he's mid tier his combos are really good and he still has the best b-air in the game so idk
People who play Sonic like that give Sonic players a bad name
*a skilled roy can beat any fox*
He was at 69 for so long holy shit
The reason you include E-Tier is because you would have no footage otherwise.
Actually cuz it's what most tournies use for their low-tier brackets
Cagt vs komirikiri was they Best upset
K so komo camped because he dies at 0 from one down tilt. If someone traveled all the way from Japan what would you do. Approach the little Mac and very possibly just lose or run away from little Mac so you don't die at 0. This was at a major btw.
*mid tier/low tier upsets* $_$
I need that background music
After SEEng cagt vs komo, Little Mac vs Sonic even
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i hate that 1st sonic that was trying to timeout the little mac, bruh
That Pac-Man was pretty lame
that was a mistake
Imo pac man was insane in smash 4