To be fair, Brawl's punish game is *usually* only 1 or 2 hits. ICs and MK (and some other characters with chaingrabs) kinda don't care about that rule that, but for the most part, a trip rarely decides a match.
The weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life: K9SBruce actually losing due to some sucky B.S. out of his control and for once in human history NOT throwing a rage fit
K9 is a good guy, he stayed on my couch for a week in Chicago for a bit and was a great person to be around. Passionate about the game for sure. Glad to see he’s controlling those emotions a bit more.
11:07 That is one of two times I have seen that happen. The only other instance of that is when a Ganondorf footstooled into immediate side B (similar to that Falcon) and fell through Town and City. I think it is the result of the footstool into side B not being able to grab the ledge correctly, and the foot of the characters clipped in the stage. Again, this only happened twice, and it was a while ago since it happened. 17:51 That one is a straight up "to be continued" meme.
Zpywagen she’s so so bad. Easily low tier. It sucks cuz as much as there’re tons of other options, she’s p unique. There’re a shit ton of upper tiers high tiers top tiers and the best in the game to choose from, but not many magic swordsman.
Pokemon Stadium and Lylat Cruise: the dynamic duo of legal stage jank. Fortunately, turning off hazards in Ultimate removes the jank on both of those stages.
It is confirmed that turning off stage hazards removes Lylat's tilt. I am presuming that turning off the stage hazards will remove Pokemon Stadium's transformations... or at least I hope that is the case.
The_ Bookworm As briefly shown in the Smash Direct we got back during August, the game defines stage hazards as "environmental changes or enemies," so we can safely assume all transforming/transitioning stages will stay in their initial form (unless there are some exceptions like Halberd and Skyloft always staying in the air).
@@fprosk Falco's dair is a true spike, but it didn't spike, instead it hit Fly back on stage. Which means Westballz did that said suicide for nothing, losing the game.
why do people keep assuming they win the game and stop watching the screen, especially when there's something like the T&C platforms which will kill you?
I want to imagine after playing an intense set, there’s a lot of nerves and when you finally get the last hit off, you take a premature breather. Regardless, I’ve seen way too many sets end with one player getting star KO’d and the other player just runs off the side and dies before the star KO animation ends. Like just hold on to your controller for 2 more seconds THEN pop off lol
Done that thing at the end with Marth while using Lucina so many times. (Don't try to spike when you can't aim and have lag after downsmash and a mediocre recovery)
Bro, Melee is so broken. It could really use a remake that basically just removes phantom hits and stuff like that. I’d also like it to feel less... idk... stiff I guess. Like rolling and grabs just feel bad to me in Melee. I try to grab and my character shields, and the same thing happens when I roll sometimes. Say I try to grab right after a roll, the grab button just shields instead and I don’t understand why. It happens less in PM and Legacy XP, but it’s still a problem in those games too. There’s also some times when my character just doesn’t jump and I’m so confused as to why. I guess everything just has more lag on it than in later games and I’m just pressing the button too early...? Idk it just feels bad to me. I really hope Melee HD with fixes to all those problems, character balance, and online is a thing in the future. Legacy XP will do for now lol. Also Ultimate looks amazing in a different way than a Melee HD would be, so I would still play both. I’m just rambling at this point, but I’m honestly just trying to pass time before the Smash Direct tomorrow... the wait is killing me.
You accidentally light shield when you press Z. This can be avoided by jump cancel grab. Rolling is not really a good option in Melee, which is considered a good thing by many people, since punishing roll spam in Smash 4 especially is pretty damn annoying (luckily fixed in Ultimate). Also very little reason to roll when theres wave dashing and other movement options.
BrickNGames I don’t think wavedashing feels good in Melee either. Mastering a series of unintended tech to make the game play “like it should” isn’t really kosher to me.
Phantom hits are in every smash game. It's when a move is 1 pixel off from hitting, except in melee it does half damage with the sound/effects still playing. In brawl and onward it simply makes a little spark with no damage.
So the Corrin did a screen ko on sonic, and while Sonic was in the ko animation, Corrin stood on the moving platform, and it flew right and ko'ed Corrin instead of Sonic.
Oh! There´s another one like that in this compilation, but this one is not shown entirely, that´s why I couldn´t figure out what had happened. Thank you very much for taking the time of explaining ;).
The first hitbox has a set knockback and Factoring the rage peach had due to high percentage, it sends the opponent at crazy hight. Thats also how mario gets some of his up-B gimps (and even Roy in melee)
Wow, that iceclimbers continual grabbing move is so cheap. Can't believe people actually cheered for that. That kind of play should be banned and mean disqualification.
Stadium is only barely broken. We have the technology to make it always stay in neutral form but it hasn't been implemented yet because these glitches are so rare. As for Lylat, I don't play sm4sh for ultimate so I couldn't tell you why one of their legal stages is constantly moving.
This is a very late reply, but I'm at least 90% certain that the entire reason Lylat is legal is solely because Smash Wii U has next-to-no legal stages and they just needed one more for a bit of variety.
I wish the smash community had more gentlemen, i dont expect someone to give their win for some bullshit when there is money on the line, i would give my mad respect if someone dies that some day.
6:50 *OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!* *NOW YOU FUCKED UP!* *_NOWW_** YOU FUCKED UP!* *NOW YOU FUCKED UP!* *YOU FUCKED UP NOW!* *NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UP*
Yeah there's a lot of bullshit here, but the Nana stuff is like...Would you be mad if you played against an A.I. and it forward smashed? lmao You can't just stand next to her
7:20 Honestly... Because Sonic got up to shake his hand, he should still have lost that match. You could count that as a distraction from the game. Atleast thats how I feel about it. Not sure how that set played out.
@@BreadOfLoaf Hey man, if you're gonna some how extrapolate something from my comment that I wasn't even close to saying (Saying that Melee can be just as bad as Brawl is not the same thing as saing Brawl ISN'T jank AF) I'm gonna give you three basic bitch emojis. Cause it was funny.
"Tripping wasn't that bad, it was only 1% chance"
MSP RyunAkuma people who say that are such idiots. like, you move a lot more than 100 times in a match.
To be fair, Brawl's punish game is *usually* only 1 or 2 hits.
ICs and MK (and some other characters with chaingrabs) kinda don't care about that rule that, but for the most part, a trip rarely decides a match.
RosiYY well why would you play any character other than those two
let's just ignore that the stage literally kills someone
Brawl was the flipping worst.
Who would win?
a. A professional smash player in a large tournament trying their best
b. Nana's -4 IQ F Smash facing the other way
b
f
It was a roll read, 4000 IQ
B
Lol winning because of tripping. GG
Skill
As Meta Knight
6:45 pretty much Brawl in a nutshell
Meta Knight, Ice Climbers, tripping and infinite grabs...
Yep, seems about right.
@@KalavinkaK @Pato A
Another misinformed casual that knows little about brawl!!
5:50 lol you can see Axe motioning the angle that M2K should have done to get the ledge
The weirdest thing I have ever seen in my life: K9SBruce actually losing due to some sucky B.S. out of his control and for once in human history NOT throwing a rage fit
Good for him!
K9 really controlled himself recently tho
K9 is a good guy, he stayed on my couch for a week in Chicago for a bit and was a great person to be around. Passionate about the game for sure. Glad to see he’s controlling those emotions a bit more.
That's good!
Its almost like it wasnt designed to be a competitive fighting game
that missed ledge grab by m2k's pichu is so sad lmao
11:07 Excuse me?!
17:51 is the funniest though
11:07 That is one of two times I have seen that happen. The only other instance of that is when a Ganondorf footstooled into immediate side B (similar to that Falcon) and fell through Town and City.
I think it is the result of the footstool into side B not being able to grab the ledge correctly, and the foot of the characters clipped in the stage. Again, this only happened twice, and it was a while ago since it happened.
17:51 That one is a straight up "to be continued" meme.
@@the_bookworm8281 they should have done that to be continued with roundabout for real 👍
I said the exact same thing out loud for the first one lol.
@@the_bookworm8281 Not only due to the side B, I've seen it happening with Donkey Kong up b. I think it's because these are vertical recoveries moves
@@lerespect3053 you mean horizontal? None of the moves you mentioned exist.
Welcome to another iteration of Lemony Snicket's A Serious of Unfortunate Events.
3:04 why does hungrybox just slide out of nowhere?
He was crouching
As much as I love Brawl that trip to lose the crew battle is heartbreaking.
Why does Robin down b put her into free fall
Because fuck Robin, I guess, as if losing their recovery wasn't enough
Zpywagen “game balance”
Why does freefall even exist anymore, now that some characters have Up-Bs that don't put you into it.
Joan Aguayo Planell I’m sure it does, people would’ve covered it if it was gone
Zpywagen she’s so so bad. Easily low tier. It sucks cuz as much as there’re tons of other options, she’s p unique. There’re a shit ton of upper tiers high tiers top tiers and the best in the game to choose from, but not many magic swordsman.
Pokemon Stadium and Lylat Cruise: the dynamic duo of legal stage jank. Fortunately, turning off hazards in Ultimate removes the jank on both of those stages.
Lylat cruise is a stage not to be reckoned with due to its cheap kills, but it doesn’t have any hazard. I just hope they patch it though
It is confirmed that turning off stage hazards removes Lylat's tilt. I am presuming that turning off the stage hazards will remove Pokemon Stadium's transformations... or at least I hope that is the case.
The_ Bookworm As briefly shown in the Smash Direct we got back during August, the game defines stage hazards as "environmental changes or enemies," so we can safely assume all transforming/transitioning stages will stay in their initial form (unless there are some exceptions like Halberd and Skyloft always staying in the air).
@@the_bookworm8281 that would be kind of sad. No transforms means Pokémon identical to the Unova Pokémon League.
Don’t forget Brawl FD and Melee Battlefield!
2:43 this hurt to see each time
I find it hilarious.
Even fly didnt want that to happen
Can you explain what happened there
@@fprosk Falco's dair is a true spike, but it didn't spike, instead it hit Fly back on stage. Which means Westballz did that said suicide for nothing, losing the game.
I’m assuming it was either late hit in PAL, or Fly was DI’ing the absolute crap outta that move.
9:08 - 9:57
God was like "2 times for my boy SFAT"
Moral of the video: ban lylat
ban stadium
ban all maps except temple and poke floats
"Nana"
*"Cheese"*
"Naanaa"
*_"ChHeSe"_*
(3:16)
?
2:43 And the award for best dair goes to West
Imagine losing a major because Nana went “Haha funny hammer go bonk”
5:50 Axe the Pika main back there drawing out with his hands all the angles M2K could have taken to still live lol
why do people keep assuming they win the game and stop watching the screen, especially when there's something like the T&C platforms which will kill you?
Idiocy
They just don't expect it.
I want to imagine after playing an intense set, there’s a lot of nerves and when you finally get the last hit off, you take a premature breather.
Regardless, I’ve seen way too many sets end with one player getting star KO’d and the other player just runs off the side and dies before the star KO animation ends. Like just hold on to your controller for 2 more seconds THEN pop off lol
You missed Armada's retirement
Why was lylat even legal
I hate how smug some of these guys act after the jank happens
They've played enough to see a lot of the jank, so it's more of a "its funny that happened in tournament" smug.
*unfortunate thing happens* “heh i’m good”
It's not Plup falling under Stadium that makes it funny, it's that S2J daired him too lol
"THE BRAWL TRIP"
*Everyone snaps a shocked look towards the screen like we're all supervillains and I just screamed "It's the Batman!"*
The Kirby free fall got me so hard 😂
What??
4:45 god has joined the server
Fat ass respect to K9 for how he took it. He kept to himself and showed frustration, but didn’t go into a salty rage. He really did/has gotten better
11:07 How does that even happen?!
01LoganMC Pre-Patch Smash 4
Good thing, Robin doesn't go free fall in Air Nosferatú in ultimate :^ ]
Kinomoru Yeah but she lost her downthrow up air kill confirm so who cares anymore
12:34
Another reason why Lylat was a broken stage and should have been banned.
Prince Goat Cheese *character falls through stage* “nah it’s okay we need it as a counterpick”
4:13 L Y L A T is a STAGE... dang...
Every time I see the vanilla brawl victory background I keep thinking their PM crashed...
Melee really is the most unfortunate moment in smash. Glad Sakurai fixed it to be playable
Done that thing at the end with Marth while using Lucina so many times. (Don't try to spike when you can't aim and have lag after downsmash and a mediocre recovery)
Lol i forgot Wes has be screwed over twice by ICs
W. K. same guy too
I love those Nana hits
Unfortunate moments in Super Smash Bros.
Thumbnail shows Fox eating Pichu's ass.
If heaven has a theme song it's the sound of two lu(i)gis fighting.
Why did you put parenthesis in there?
14:40 man was mashing down on the C-Stick like the universe itself depended on it.
Needs more Westballz
The flash movie is tooo hard
Yes I agree
Yea fr yo I love the flash movie ima see it opening day
Guy you phony ima fug around steal the trailer
6:36 the most satisfying clip ever
1:21 Did that Falco give up or something?
Emishimaru - Sama ledge hogging is in brawl
Oh, I kind of forgot about that..
And Falco/Fox can't upB after a sideB Brawl.
Poor westballz it's always seems to happen to my boi
Bro, Melee is so broken. It could really use a remake that basically just removes phantom hits and stuff like that. I’d also like it to feel less... idk... stiff I guess. Like rolling and grabs just feel bad to me in Melee. I try to grab and my character shields, and the same thing happens when I roll sometimes. Say I try to grab right after a roll, the grab button just shields instead and I don’t understand why. It happens less in PM and Legacy XP, but it’s still a problem in those games too. There’s also some times when my character just doesn’t jump and I’m so confused as to why. I guess everything just has more lag on it than in later games and I’m just pressing the button too early...? Idk it just feels bad to me.
I really hope Melee HD with fixes to all those problems, character balance, and online is a thing in the future. Legacy XP will do for now lol. Also Ultimate looks amazing in a different way than a Melee HD would be, so I would still play both. I’m just rambling at this point, but I’m honestly just trying to pass time before the Smash Direct tomorrow... the wait is killing me.
You accidentally light shield when you press Z. This can be avoided by jump cancel grab. Rolling is not really a good option in Melee, which is considered a good thing by many people, since punishing roll spam in Smash 4 especially is pretty damn annoying (luckily fixed in Ultimate). Also very little reason to roll when theres wave dashing and other movement options.
BrickNGames I don’t think wavedashing feels good in Melee either. Mastering a series of unintended tech to make the game play “like it should” isn’t really kosher to me.
Phantom hits are in every smash game. It's when a move is 1 pixel off from hitting, except in melee it does half damage with the sound/effects still playing. In brawl and onward it simply makes a little spark with no damage.
Phantom hits are a bug in melee.
Sonichackedyou not a bug
Meta knight accidentally falling off is not unfortunate.
A bayo fucking up a recovery and dying? That shits not unfortunate its hilarious.
I cant tell if its worse to lose due to tripping or a phantom hit. At lease one is meant to happen, even if its shitty.
i wouldn't take a victory by my opponent being carried off if im in a star ko
Introverted Mess same... it actually happened to me before, but my opponent was my friend and insisted that i take the win :(
If they counter picked to that stage I would say hold the L.
What is happening at 12:18, it seems like he just keeps Side B’ing off the stage for no reason
54 F ah, I get it now lol
14:40 was it a down smash and reverse hit nair trade? That's what it looked like to me when I slowed it to .25 speed.
naw man was a dair, which came out of spamming down on the c stick, that hit s2j out of his jump
Remind me why Town and City/Smashville is tournament legal...?
it isnt unfortunate when a wobbler loses
Nana OP
5:45 I beg to differ - I call that karma
Triple R was a hype melee player if you watch his highligjts. Hope to see some more in ultimate from him.
Can somebody explain to me what happened at 7:40? They say something about rolling off the platform, but I just don´t get it.
So the Corrin did a screen ko on sonic, and while Sonic was in the ko animation, Corrin stood on the moving platform, and it flew right and ko'ed Corrin instead of Sonic.
Oh! There´s another one like that in this compilation, but this one is not shown entirely, that´s why I couldn´t figure out what had happened.
Thank you very much for taking the time of explaining ;).
can someone explain to me what happened at 14:12-14:22?
downtilt + upb + rage
The first hitbox has a set knockback and Factoring the rage peach had due to high percentage, it sends the opponent at crazy hight. Thats also how mario gets some of his up-B gimps (and even Roy in melee)
Samus kan also do this with Dash attack into up-B if she has a lot of rage
This hurt to watch
New Tournament rule: Ban Nana, she's too OP lmao
but then you'd have to either ban IC's together or require all IC players or go Sopo, with ruins the entire design of the fighter(s).
Clip 1: Top 10 anime betrayals.
Sometimes Melee itself gets port priority
Poor S2J :(
These give my anxiety
14:46 She died in childbirth Anakin
What's with the "BANNED" clip involving Zero Suit?
It's a mod
@@deester7914 what are you talking about? That was tournament play.
@@AnalyticalApex I know it's weird that they would use a mod in tournament, but they did. It's okay though, it didnt affect gameplay
@@deester7914 oh. Just a joke I'm guessing?
*watches video* well thats unfortunate.
Wow, that iceclimbers continual grabbing move is so cheap.
Can't believe people actually cheered for that.
That kind of play should be banned and mean disqualification.
Are you uh, are you new here or just making a very good joke?
->Unfortunate Moments
->Brawl MK
Wes vs Fly salty suite when?
Why are stages like Lylat and Pokemon Stadium allowed in tournaments if they're legit broken?
Stadium is only barely broken. We have the technology to make it always stay in neutral form but it hasn't been implemented yet because these glitches are so rare. As for Lylat, I don't play sm4sh for ultimate so I couldn't tell you why one of their legal stages is constantly moving.
This is a very late reply, but I'm at least 90% certain that the entire reason Lylat is legal is solely because Smash Wii U has next-to-no legal stages and they just needed one more for a bit of variety.
Also all these people getting carried off by the platforms. Amazing!
I wish the smash community had more gentlemen, i dont expect someone to give their win for some bullshit when there is money on the line, i would give my mad respect if someone dies that some day.
5:40 "ledgehog was definitely good for the game" they say.
11:05 BAN LYLAT... Wait a minute...
Lylat just hates zss downsmash
Tripping wasn’t too bad
Yeah fucking right
Yeah no
@@bahza_haha :(
idk whats unfortunate about a bayo player loosing because of that 4:40
Nosferatu puts you in special fall???
6:50 *OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!*
*NOW YOU FUCKED UP!*
*_NOWW_** YOU FUCKED UP!*
*NOW YOU FUCKED UP!*
*YOU FUCKED UP NOW!*
*NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU FUCKED UP NOW YOU HAVE FUCKED UP*
Good shit
Needs more Wombo combo.
Meta Knight.
ugh seeing this makes me disappointed in smash
I know this wasn't meant to be competitive but this shit is just *unfortunate*
F in the chat peeps.
Yeah there's a lot of bullshit here, but the Nana stuff is like...Would you be mad if you played against an A.I. and it forward smashed? lmao You can't just stand next to her
Is Johnny cursed!? XD
1st one
*_BAN DREAMLAND_*
ROFLMAOO
7:40
11:07 wtf?
Sfat is mega lucky
Lylat cruise should be banned
Ban town and city
1% my ass
MFer tripped and lost bracket, gg get good. ☠
7:20 Honestly... Because Sonic got up to shake his hand, he should still have lost that match. You could count that as a distraction from the game. Atleast thats how I feel about it. Not sure how that set played out.
I love how half of these are just shitty Melee glitches lol. And they said Brawl was shitty ;P
YumiTheGoblin So tripping and meta knight is totally fair right?
@@BreadOfLoaf 😂😂😂
You’re cancer
@@chepemasacuata1 I'm a Sagittarius actually
@@BreadOfLoaf Hey man, if you're gonna some how extrapolate something from my comment that I wasn't even close to saying (Saying that Melee can be just as bad as Brawl is not the same thing as saing Brawl ISN'T jank AF) I'm gonna give you three basic bitch emojis. Cause it was funny.
F