@@Dronescapes Yes, we used F-86F against India in 1965 and 1971 indo-pak wars it is a fantastic aircraft, They performed well against indian Hawker Hunter, Pakistan airforce had F-104 star fighter which performed well against MiG-21 in 1965 war.
The MiG-15 was most impressive indeed but the F-86 had the radar ranging gunsight and later versions with the “flying tail” IMO totally outclassed the MiG. The MiG was really badass tho.
At the time, Polikarpov had designed the I-185, far superior to anything else in the air at the time (once the engine was sorted out), but backsbabbing and corruption, especially from Mikoyan, killed the project.
At around 32:20, one of the Russian MiG pilots mentioned shooting down an “F-98” Any idea what he could have been referring to? Because no such aircraft exists as I understand it
I'm guessing Russia still haven't sent Britain a thank-you letter for the technological edge they had over the Americans with the MiG-15. Chances are that letter is still pending.
It was immediately post war, Russia was still considered an ally, but it was a stupid decision to accept the Russians would use the Nene for peaceful purposes only!
This is what makes me ticked: The Russians had their frontline fighters _and pilots_ openly fighting our jets in Korea, so why don’t we have our Top Gun pilots and F-15’s openly fighting in Ukraine?? The Russians did it _again_ in Vietnam! The U.S. government seems spineless. 🇺🇸💛🇺🇦
Times have drastically changed, I doubt it is about 'spineless' pilots. American, for example, helped afghans against the Russians, etc. Those were different times. Today globalism has much larger repercussions
@@Dronescapes Good points, Drone, thank you. Quick errata: I did not mean our pilots are spineless, but rather American leaders in Washington. Great channel! 💛🙏🏽
Well, Europe, or the rest of the world is not much better. Everyone is too intertwined with Russia, one way or another. you can say that everyone is scared of rocking the boat. They are all guilty of appeasing, complimenting and dealing with Putin. Look at Germany's stance on Russia. It's a fine line. Don't forget that there is Covid to deal with, also China, climate, etc. It's not a good time for the planet.
It figures thats the story Stalin told about how they got the engine its actually not true according to what is recorded history the British decided to give them the engines the MIG people never showed up and Britain it was the other way around there was a phone call the British prime Minister decided to gift the two most advanced engines we had as a sign of good faith after the war that we really were allies now it helped to get rid of some of Stalin suspicion.
Stalin couldn’t believe his luck, he was incredulous that in a rival country the Labour Party could be so stupid as to give Russia a Rolls Royce jet engine to copy.
Whittle’s engine , the British genius, and inventor of the turbojet (and not the Germans as too many people wrongfully think). It was copied by the Soviets after they trashed the utterly flawed (copied) German engines. Interestingly the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star that initially had to face the MiG 15 was powered by the same British invention. The first jet flight in the U.S. in 1942 was powered by Whittle’s engine, shipped in great secrecy to the United States in 1941, together with the British inventor. It also powered the first U.S. jet fighter, and became the first jet engine for both General Electric, and Pratt & Whitney’s. When people say that the U.S. copied German turbojets, they could not be more wrong, they were very British.
Please please please it’s not a Russian airplane it’s a Soviet airplane and one of the main engineer was not a Russian, Mr Migoyan is Armenian. I know Russian is benefiting now, unfortunately. Please make the change… Thank you
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The Mig 15 and the F86 Sabre. Two beautiful looking aircraft.
When I think of air superiority those are the 2 that first come to mind
That was an excelent Doc. Very informitive. Now I want to buy me one a those Mig 15's .....
You should! Probably a bit hard to find one :)
I have 1 for sale. Just give me your VISA and PIN number. he he he
I happen to know a guy with a mig 17 for sale tho
@@Cloudsurfer181 and
@@haroldbirtwistle9234 I can connect you if you would like
How beautiful is this MiG-15.
It was better then F86 Sabre for few reasons it celling and armament.
I think they were both very interesting aircraft
@@Dronescapes
Yes, we used F-86F against India in 1965 and 1971 indo-pak wars it is a fantastic aircraft,
They performed well against indian Hawker Hunter, Pakistan airforce had F-104 star fighter which performed well against MiG-21 in 1965 war.
Yes Fayaz, and the Mig had greater power as well. Our F-86 needed canons and much more engine power. Al-salamü ‘alayküm, brother.
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The MiG-15 was most impressive indeed but the F-86 had the radar ranging gunsight and later versions with the “flying tail” IMO totally outclassed the MiG. The MiG was really badass tho.
...and maneuverability !!
German airframe + British engine = Mig-15
And the same was Sabre
The MIG 15 and the F-86 were both introduced in 1949. So no "until".
The "until" is because the MIG-15 was deployed first in Korea and the US had then to rush F-86 there. In the mean time, the MIGs dominated the air
At the time, Polikarpov had designed the I-185, far superior to anything else in the air at the time (once the engine was sorted out), but backsbabbing and corruption, especially from Mikoyan, killed the project.
I've heard it was due to material shortages, especially the engines used by the lagg 3.
At around 32:20, one of the Russian MiG pilots mentioned shooting down an “F-98” Any idea what he could have been referring to? Because no such aircraft exists as I understand it
Probably a F9F-8 Cougar, Navy and Marine jet, Grumann manufactured it.
@@BuzCzar Maybe, only other thing I could imagine it being as an F-89, but I don’t think those were deployed in Korea.
Also possible to be misnamed Lockheed F-94 Starfire too, I think
It was the British powered, MIG 15
I'm guessing Russia still haven't sent Britain a thank-you letter for the technological edge they had over the Americans with the MiG-15. Chances are that letter is still pending.
@@Afrocanuk Actually the F-86 was comparable and was built at the same time
@@Afrocanuk They’re probably gonna send it after they’re done writing the one for the M1 Garands they copied the AK’s actions from.
@@Afrocanuk Britain did claim from Russia for the unlicensed use of the engine, Russia ignored it, no surprise!!!
I won Lotto. It wasn't fast enough.
The UK gave the USSR a working De Havaland jet engine . So much for UK politicians. In my opinion, that was treason.
It was immediately post war, Russia was still considered an ally, but it was a stupid decision to accept the Russians would use the Nene for peaceful purposes only!
Bf-109
This is what makes me ticked: The Russians had their frontline fighters _and pilots_ openly fighting our jets in Korea, so why don’t we have our Top Gun pilots and F-15’s openly fighting in Ukraine?? The Russians did it _again_ in Vietnam! The U.S. government seems spineless. 🇺🇸💛🇺🇦
Times have drastically changed, I doubt it is about 'spineless' pilots. American, for example, helped afghans against the Russians, etc. Those were different times. Today globalism has much larger repercussions
@@Dronescapes Good points, Drone, thank you. Quick errata: I did not mean our pilots are spineless, but rather American leaders in Washington. Great channel! 💛🙏🏽
Well, Europe, or the rest of the world is not much better. Everyone is too intertwined with Russia, one way or another. you can say that everyone is scared of rocking the boat. They are all guilty of appeasing, complimenting and dealing with Putin. Look at Germany's stance on Russia. It's a fine line. Don't forget that there is Covid to deal with, also China, climate, etc. It's not a good time for the planet.
@@Dronescapes You miss my point.
Because in the 1950s a country could still hypothetically survive a nuclear exchange. Not today.
It figures thats the story Stalin told about how they got the engine its actually not true according to what is recorded history the British decided to give them the engines the MIG people never showed up and Britain it was the other way around there was a phone call the British prime Minister decided to gift the two most advanced engines we had as a sign of good faith after the war that we really were allies now it helped to get rid of some of Stalin suspicion.
Stalin couldn’t believe his luck, he was incredulous that in a rival country the Labour Party could be so stupid as to give Russia a Rolls Royce jet engine to copy.
What are you even on about the russians used their own Lyulka AL5 engine.
Russian design with a Rolls Royce engine. Who would've thought it?
Whittle’s engine , the British genius, and inventor of the turbojet (and not the Germans as too many people wrongfully think).
It was copied by the Soviets after they trashed the utterly flawed (copied) German engines.
Interestingly the Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star that initially had to face the MiG 15 was powered by the same British invention.
The first jet flight in the U.S. in 1942 was powered by Whittle’s engine, shipped in great secrecy to the United States in 1941, together with the British inventor.
It also powered the first U.S. jet fighter, and became the first jet engine for both General Electric, and Pratt & Whitney’s.
When people say that the U.S. copied German turbojets, they could not be more wrong, they were very British.
Everything is turned up side down here plus many many lies.
Like what?
The story about the billiard game.
Нормальнач тачка бвла на английском движке
Крылья слабые для такой мощности
Please please please it’s not a Russian airplane it’s a Soviet airplane and one of the main engineer was not a Russian, Mr Migoyan is Armenian. I know Russian is benefiting now, unfortunately.
Please make the change…
Thank you