I love my Element Bolt V2. The interface is fantastic, and lack of a touch screen is welcomed. Battery life is very good, and spot on accuracy. Plus it's not to bulky..
I’ve used a Garmin Edge 130 for 3 years and it’s absolutely brilliant. Long battery life and accurate directions when following an uploaded route. Plus it doesn’t look like I’ve strapped a TV screen to my handlebars!
Nothing beats the trusty Garmin Edge 130. It has all that matters in a compact and quite readable package. I prefer it quite a lot to my 530 that has a ton of things that I never use. My only complaint is that Garmin does not replace their batteries.
I used the Edge 200 for years and recently switched to the Edge 25, both of which I bought second-hand. They are perfect for my data collection needs. Cheap and cheerful!
What about all the igpsport models?? The value, performance, durability...these are great options and work even better than their Garmin counterparts. Kinda lost credibility not including them here mates.
I was impressed by the Bryton so tried the bryton app, wouldn't load on my 10 inch tablet but did in my phone I tried a sample route, somewhere I intend going and have done so before. It offered me a route which was nearly all on major roads despite most of the route being doable on shared footpath/cycle way well away from the diesel fumes. I think I'll carry on with a map and my memory.
I had bryton ryder 420 - it was OK - until it stopped taking updates, then froze and bricked. it was a huge waste. I went on to get a Wahoo elemnt - and I could not have been happier.
Was happy with my no frills Bryton 420 until they did a huge fuck up with an update in spring 2024. The unit was totally useless, following a preplant route was impossible as the GPS position had a lack of 12-15 sec to the real position :-( I got sick after that second big update fuck up for the 420 within 2,5 years and bought a iGSPort 630s. Yes, colour and real navigation with integreted map but I still miss some of the functions offered by the Rider 420. Bryton fixed the 420 problems after huge rant by the users with an update, unit works fine again and I keep it as back-up to the new iGSPort 630s bike computer.
@@fennec13 Own the 420 too and was going mad after the 2nd huge update fuck up by Bryton within 2,5 years. Unit was totally useless after the update in spring 2024 :-( But to be fair to Bryton they fixed their fault by an update, I keep the 420 as backup to my new iGSPort 630s.
The quality of the routing is critical. They should mention this. I have an old Mio cyclo 210, which I picked up from £130 a few years back. It is purely a navigation device as it has no external sensors for power meters etc. but it does this really well and finds nice quiet routes and has a nice clear colour screen
I'll second that - BSC300 has fantastic battery life - managed to convert a hardcore Garmin fanboy to IGPsport - gatewayed him into the brand with a loan of a BSC200 and he was impressed enough to go buy the 300 which he ses me using all the time.
Wahoo for me been excellent.. went from a roam v1 to bolt v2 which is brilliant 😊 I also use speed play pedals and a kickr core all products have have been 10/10 and wahoo support is top notch.. Pete 🚴🏻👍
I honestly didn't even realize they still made cycling computers without GPS... It's refreshing to see good low tech/budget offerings in a market saturated with so much astronomically overpriced garbage!
Demand is going to dictate cost, if Apple was making a new iphone and was selling as many of those as Garmin sells a 1040, guess how much that iPhone would cost? A high end iPhone costs around $350 to produce, and being sold for approx $1200 , dude everyone is getting ripped off...
Completely pointless comparison. That's like saying how much of a rip off a cel phone is compared to a PC. These computers, whilst maybe overpriced, they offer some brilliant proven technology in a very small package, which is more than ideal compared to strapping an ever enlarging cel phone to handlebars. Whilst I agree the technology is overpriced. These definitely have a very big presence and demand for a very good reason
@@layeetskeeters9244A heavy $750 bicycle GPS navigation device can still be damaged if not mounted correctly compared to a $150 smartphone. If the $150 smartphone (acting as a GPS) is mounted correctly, then it shouldn’t fly off the handlebar at all compared to a $750 bicycle GPS device. Bicycle GPS are way too overpriced as the OP stated.
I have the Wahoo Roam V1 ( before that the Elemnt) Its always been reliable and accurate, re routing for missed turns and battery life - likewise really great for less than what you can get a garmin for. It's got my vote, because after having the Xoss G+ and the Bryton Ryder 420.. yeah sometimes you DO get what you pay for... and i found it for a lot less than $400! for the Roam V1, or the older Elemnt for much the same price point of the $150 Garmin!
Perfect set-up for me is a simple cycle computer tracking speed, distance, time, plus an OS Map - cover removed and folded up either into a frame bag or pocket. No chance of battery failure or it bugging out on the GPS, plus it's easier to reroute with a physical map. Downside is it getting wet, although you can buy waterproof OS Maps, or blown away if your not careful.
At about a 40£ price point, you can get a bike computer with GPS (no mapping or directions, just recording) and sensor connectivity. I have a Coospo BC107 but there are comparable units from other makers.
I bought my first computer in 1989. A Cat Eye which cost £30. I use pretty much the same today; wireless, Chinese, cost £12. It's perfectly adequate, and I don't see what a power meter and all the rest of it could do for me except make industry shills rich..😂
I use the Garmin Explore 2, but traveling between US and EU, discovered that with limited internal storage I can't have both US and EU maps and the process of removing/loading maps through Garmin Express PC app is BUGGY and very time consuming. This otherwise fine bike computer feels intentionally crippled by Garmin given the price difference between 16gb and 32gb microSD cards is miniscule!
Just learned that maps can be loaded directly on the Hammerhead Karoo (V3) unit itself. Also the 64GB of storage on the Karoo is far better. Unless Garmin can improve map management, I think it's time I switch to Hammerhead.
I had the Garmen Explore and found it to be worthless junk. Maybe if you use it for just simple road routs and don't vary from the rout, the Garmin may suit your needs. Otherwise, junk. The most awful user interface possible. I switched to Hammerhead and love it.
I had an xoss G+ . used it for 2 seasons, the problem I had was no re-routing - loading a route was terrible, and it was sometimes hard to get the data off the thing - and up to strava. APP UI was not great. BUT for most people this would be an ok, inexpensive unit. But I wanted a bit more than it could give.
Seriously, can someone tell me the advantage of a cycling computers vs. a midclass android phone like the xiaomi x6 pro. The latter one i can get for 250€ and it can do everything the garmin edge can and even more stuff, did i miss a thing that makes them so special that i need one over a phone?
Get a second hand garmin but don't get anything before x20 inclusive. They're just not supported and the mapping is just meh. This includes the old Explore.
@@adamweb This might be a rumour, but I heard the bell and screen also comes with a fully functional cycling computer with GPS, and a load of other stuff.
@@adamweb That's the thing, I've had the 1040 solar, I don't like the screen and dont need the extended use time it provides, so I sold it and got the 1050.,
Magene, Xoss, IGPSort where are they?
I love my Element Bolt V2. The interface is fantastic, and lack of a touch screen is welcomed. Battery life is very good, and spot on accuracy. Plus it's not to bulky..
I’ve used a Garmin Edge 130 for 3 years and it’s absolutely brilliant. Long battery life and accurate directions when following an uploaded route. Plus it doesn’t look like I’ve strapped a TV screen to my handlebars!
I’ve had the Garmin Edge 520 for 8 years and use it all the time for commutes and weekend rides. Still works like brand new!
Nothing beats the trusty Garmin Edge 130. It has all that matters in a compact and quite readable package. I prefer it quite a lot to my 530 that has a ton of things that I never use. My only complaint is that Garmin does not replace their batteries.
Getting a wahoo elemnt roam v2, from Amazon prime day for £250. Great buy to upgrade my garmin 130+ (which has been brilliant!)
I used the Edge 200 for years and recently switched to the Edge 25, both of which I bought second-hand. They are perfect for my data collection needs. Cheap and cheerful!
I paid £25 for my Cateye Padrone Wireless. Brilliant purchase.
What about all the igpsport models?? The value, performance, durability...these are great options and work even better than their Garmin counterparts. Kinda lost credibility not including them here mates.
They're shit. Always failing.
I was impressed by the Bryton so tried the bryton app, wouldn't load on my 10 inch tablet but did in my phone I tried a sample route, somewhere I intend going and have done so before. It offered me a route which was nearly all on major roads despite most of the route being doable on shared footpath/cycle way well away from the diesel fumes. I think I'll carry on with a map and my memory.
I had bryton ryder 420 - it was OK - until it stopped taking updates, then froze and bricked.
it was a huge waste. I went on to get a Wahoo elemnt - and I could not have been happier.
Was happy with my no frills Bryton 420 until they did a huge fuck up with an update in spring 2024. The unit was totally useless, following a preplant route was impossible as the GPS position had a lack of 12-15 sec to the real position :-( I got sick after that second big update fuck up for the 420 within 2,5 years and bought a iGSPort 630s. Yes, colour and real navigation with integreted map but I still miss some of the functions offered by the Rider 420.
Bryton fixed the 420 problems after huge rant by the users with an update, unit works fine again and I keep it as back-up to the new iGSPort 630s bike computer.
@@fennec13 Own the 420 too and was going mad after the 2nd huge update fuck up by Bryton within 2,5 years. Unit was totally useless after the update in spring 2024 :-( But to be fair to Bryton they fixed their fault by an update, I keep the 420 as backup to my new iGSPort 630s.
@@sportbootjo - yeah. One update just nade the rhing wirk so poorly then it bricked on me. I mobed on to a Wahoo. I've been much happier.
The quality of the routing is critical. They should mention this. I have an old Mio cyclo 210, which I picked up from £130 a few years back. It is purely a navigation device as it has no external sensors for power meters etc. but it does this really well and finds nice quiet routes and has a nice clear colour screen
IGPSPORT BSC300 is a good budget option (my bundle cost £112), better than the Bryton you showed, works with all my old Garmin mounts.
IGPSport is good value for money. I use the IGS620 and before that the IGS50E
I'll second that - BSC300 has fantastic battery life - managed to convert a hardcore Garmin fanboy to IGPsport - gatewayed him into the brand with a loan of a BSC200 and he was impressed enough to go buy the 300 which he ses me using all the time.
@@johnflynn4923 I was thinking of getting the neu IGS800 .... still sitting on the fence at the moment 😁 It's not that cheap.
I was looking at this or the Trimm One Lite. Then the Trimm Two came out but not in the EU yet.
Hi, can I know from where to bought this?🙂
Wahoo for me been excellent.. went from a roam v1 to bolt v2 which is brilliant 😊 I also use speed play pedals and a kickr core all products have have been 10/10 and wahoo support is top notch.. Pete 🚴🏻👍
I honestly didn't even realize they still made cycling computers without GPS... It's refreshing to see good low tech/budget offerings in a market saturated with so much astronomically overpriced garbage!
if you think of the hardware you get from cel phones, you realise that these are complete ripoffs
Demand is going to dictate cost, if Apple was making a new iphone and was selling as many of those as Garmin sells a 1040, guess how much that iPhone would cost? A high end iPhone costs around $350 to produce, and being sold for approx $1200 , dude everyone is getting ripped off...
Completely pointless comparison. That's like saying how much of a rip off a cel phone is compared to a PC.
These computers, whilst maybe overpriced, they offer some brilliant proven technology in a very small package, which is more than ideal compared to strapping an ever enlarging cel phone to handlebars.
Whilst I agree the technology is overpriced. These definitely have a very big presence and demand for a very good reason
Having your phone mounted on your bike can actually damage your phones autofocus. Phones are also significantly heavy and can fly off your handlebars.
@@layeetskeeters9244A heavy $750 bicycle GPS navigation device can still be damaged if not mounted correctly compared to a $150 smartphone. If the $150 smartphone (acting as a GPS) is mounted correctly, then it shouldn’t fly off the handlebar at all compared to a $750 bicycle GPS device. Bicycle GPS are way too overpriced as the OP stated.
@@layeetskeeters9244A $750 bicycle GPS can still be damaged too if not mounted correctly compared to a $150 smartphone (acting as a GPS).
I have the Wahoo Roam V1 ( before that the Elemnt) Its always been reliable and accurate, re routing for missed turns and battery life - likewise really great for less than what you can get a garmin for. It's got my vote, because after having the Xoss G+ and the Bryton Ryder 420.. yeah sometimes you DO get what you pay for... and i found it for a lot less than $400! for the Roam V1,
or the older Elemnt for much the same price point of the $150 Garmin!
I just use my Garmin strapped to the handlebar. Gives me the same information as most computers.
Bryton is fire! Had a 420 and a S800. Great GPS units.
Cateye Velo 7 (£13.50) is the best IMO, it’s wired but reliable, though I’d suggest using the MTB wiring kit as the cable is better protected.
Perfect set-up for me is a simple cycle computer tracking speed, distance, time, plus an OS Map - cover removed and folded up either into a frame bag or pocket. No chance of battery failure or it bugging out on the GPS, plus it's easier to reroute with a physical map. Downside is it getting wet, although you can buy waterproof OS Maps, or blown away if your not careful.
I use a CooSpo BC200 which i got for Rs 7300, about 67GBP equivalent. Apart from navigation it seems to have everything the Bryton has.
I love this. Thanks for sharing
At about a 40£ price point, you can get a bike computer with GPS (no mapping or directions, just recording) and sensor connectivity. I have a Coospo BC107 but there are comparable units from other makers.
Edge 130 has battery life of like 5 hours (with HR, speed and cadence sensors connected) in warm weather. In cold, it might be as short as 30 minutes.
wtf in cold??
I've owned my Garmin 130 edge for years and I don't see the need for anything else. It's light works well. Why spend more.
Still using my OG Wahoo Elemnt that's been going strong since 2017.
Should include igsport products in the review.. competitive performance and built, at near half the price of garmin..
IGPS is the most clever option than all this famus brands...doing more with only 200 euros
I bought my first computer in 1989. A Cat Eye which cost £30. I use pretty much the same today; wireless, Chinese, cost £12. It's perfectly adequate, and I don't see what a power meter and all the rest of it could do for me except make industry shills rich..😂
I use the Garmin Explore 2, but traveling between US and EU, discovered that with limited internal storage I can't have both US and EU maps and the process of removing/loading maps through Garmin Express PC app is BUGGY and very time consuming. This otherwise fine bike computer feels intentionally crippled by Garmin given the price difference between 16gb and 32gb microSD cards is miniscule!
Just learned that maps can be loaded directly on the Hammerhead Karoo (V3) unit itself. Also the 64GB of storage on the Karoo is far better. Unless Garmin can improve map management, I think it's time I switch to Hammerhead.
How about a Garmin edge 25 very light and the size of an average watch
I had the Garmen Explore and found it to be worthless junk. Maybe if you use it for just simple road routs and don't vary from the rout, the Garmin may suit your needs. Otherwise, junk. The most awful user interface possible. I switched to Hammerhead and love it.
XOSS G+ is cheap, has GPS and ant+.
I had an xoss G+ . used it for 2 seasons, the problem I had was no re-routing - loading a route was terrible, and it was sometimes hard to get the data off the thing - and up to strava. APP UI was not great. BUT for most people this would be an ok, inexpensive unit. But I wanted a bit more than it could give.
Any idea of coospo
Seriously, can someone tell me the advantage of a cycling computers vs. a midclass android phone like the xiaomi x6 pro. The latter one i can get for 250€ and it can do everything the garmin edge can and even more stuff, did i miss a thing that makes them so special that i need one over a phone?
Get a second hand garmin but don't get anything before x20 inclusive. They're just not supported and the mapping is just meh. This includes the old Explore.
Nice & Thanks :)
No Beeline? Nav for the price can't be beat.
Disagree, when affordable and good quality brands were noy even mentioned and better priced. IGPsport, Magene, Xoss.
If phones have GPS why have cyclocomputers also have GPS?
Because having your phone on the bars wrecks the camera.
Where is the magene? It would be top of list. O that's right, it doesn't pay you to advertise like the rest of them rip of merchants.
Allot of grown men spitting their dummies out over the 1050😂
All that money just for a fancy screen and fake bell sound lol
@@adamweb This might be a rumour, but I heard the bell and screen also comes with a fully functional cycling computer with GPS, and a load of other stuff.
@@cappaculla 😂Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one but for the money I'd take the 1040 Solar over 1050 any day!
@@adamweb That's the thing, I've had the 1040 solar, I don't like the screen and dont need the extended use time it provides, so I sold it and got the 1050.,
8:08 wait, 'aero optimization'? As in the head unit is aero 🙂?