Don’t worry about the idiots who try and talk about your speed, most of them probably haven’t even started a saw!! You know your job, take your time, get it right! I love watching the whole process, no matter how long it takes. God bless you Jack
Jack, amazing work! I find the whole tree felling process fascinating. Most don’t realize all the physics and skill that goes into the job. Brilliant work! That 572 ran awesome as well. God Bless my friend, stay safe.
High dollar wood like that justifies taking all the time one needs. Not like cutting chip wood where you just need them on the ground! Also nice to see most of the processing and not just the falling. Always a pleasure watching your falling videos.
I liked how you blocked the sawdust with your left hand while doing the vertical buck. I’ll add that to my bag of tricks. Thanks for taking the time to share what you do.
Jack, you just do what you do with a saw in your hands and let the magic happen...............the easy chair timber cutters will always complain regardless the skill or proficiency you possess, clearly you do just dandy in the shade reduction business. Also nice to see that you left the frustrations of your work in the video too, cuz like you said God will keep us humble and we're only human after all. I think that's the first chain throw I've seen on UA-cam, and how nice it was to see you slip it right back on with a knee. Keep the videos coming Jack, safe cuttin and best to you and the family for 2019
A stout saw and a truly sharp chain is wild, isnt it? Remember when my grand dad taught me how to properly round file, and later when he introduced me to square ground chain. It was years later I picked up my first ported saw and was then truly awed.
Love your stuff man, but I have one question for ya? Don't you guys ever run into bee's in that part of the country? I always had a dog with when I was cutting and every time I dropped a tree the dog would run up and down the tree to see if their were any little critters in it, and she would find the bee hive's before I got to them! She saved my butt many times, miss that old dog. Have a good one.
I could be minimum bucking, full man-ing , or somewhere in between. It just depends on the felling prescription for that particular unit. As a side note, I try and do a little extra, mostly for the chaser/s, when falling right on the landing. Thanks for watching.
That saw pulls that bar nicely jack .... you don’t need told from the couch quarterbacks or other “professionals” alike.... gunning to a lay you couldn’t see clearly... and it was pile driver on and didn’t bust it in the guts... enough said there.... anyone that knows anything about this profession knows and understands the critical matters in the face cut... thanks for showing your professionalism , wisdom, and teaching us younger generation treemen a thing or 2
Kyle hi. Here is my interpretation. Redwood decking has 3 grades that I know of - good, gooder, and goodest. I think that the boards are 2" thick. It ranges somewhere between 9.00 and 15.00 a square foot depending on the quality of the board and retailer's price. Board feet are figured on a 12" square that is 1" thick. So in theory, there is almost 1/2 as much decking from total volume, except, the recovery of today's mills is more like 90/100%. Which means you get paid for 50 boards, let us say, and the mill realizes ~ 90 or 100. So just looking at a straight conversion for an average cost per per square foot on a deck board @ 12 with deck boards being 2x a standard board foot then this tree would yield ~ 1875 square feet of decking material. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 Thanks for that. Hopefully after reading this people will realize why it pays to take your 'sweet time' when falling a tree such as this. Obviously the mills pay you guys a fraction of the retail value of the wood but even a fraction say 2 bucks/bdft. works out to 7500 dollars for one tree. When you exlain what an old growth redwood is worth most peoples jaws drop.
@@smithtradfallning - There is a lot of cost associated with the end product that may get overlooked. The forestry aspect in California is one of the most costly. Shipping, because of all the enviro regs, is another. The state taxes you into submission also, so that is a consideration. It's expensive to do business in California. With all that, the end result does net a tidy sum for "someone's" in the process. Thinking the mill isn't hurting to bad.....
Wow thats a lot of wood!! Love how you take your time, teaches us all watching that your craft is hard earned and requires patience. Hey also why did you tPer the two logs on the ends at the cuts? Thanks and hi from aus
I believe he's "plumbing" the tree to check for lean. Big evergreens that look straight as an arrow from a distance still have some lean when checked against a plum line. He makes small adjustment to the cut based on this.
Fred hi. @ ~ 25:20 is the start of the process. Make sure the drivers are in the rim sprocket. Take the length out of the bar (i.e. bend in the middle) and roll the chain on over the nose sprocket in the tip. Gloves need when it's warm.... Thanks for watching.
I had an axe handle that my dad picked up at a foundry that was used to push red hot things around. It lasted 10 times longer than a new one. It was hickory.
Fred hi. Contrary to the popular sentiment, there is no hard and fast rule on the size/depth of the undercut. It ALWAYS depends on the what/how/why the guy needs the tree to do. If I want a certain reaction by the tree then I make the undercut a certain way. So yes, there is always a reason for what I'm doing on the stump. Thanks for watching.
Tks for the reply love ur vids. I was just thinking that the undercut deeper to the center of the tree, to move the pivot point further under the lean (center line of the tree) of the tree to make the back lean less.
Fred hi. There is less chance of drift as the width of the undercut get wider. I did use my axe to watch the tree as the deck was being sawn in. But, a guy can get into big trouble if/when attempting that technique. I found that "best be payin attention" to the process if trying to use the weight of the tree against itself. If it fails, you have a tree gone over backwards.... Thanks for watching.
Is that what them 572’s sound like stock bc were still waiting for our few we ordered we’ve been running 562’s and I was wondering if they were that loud
John hi. I experimented with a couple of different things with this saw. In the end, it ended up not being all 572xp original fitment components. Think there is an inherent carb influence that will be prevalent in the first rendition that hits the market. But, we can always hope..... Thanks for watching.
Danny hi. I run a 33"er, well what I call it anyway because that what it measures, a lot. It's a 110 driver .375 pitch bar. "They" call it a 34" bar. Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101 thanks, I have a 572xp and I’ve just fitted a Full Wrap Bar on it, I run a 24” bar on it but would like to buy a bigger bar to run it on for bigger timber jobs.
Davis hi. I think it was ~ 44/46" the narrow way across the hinge. I think the logs were 20, 24, 36, 32, 24 to the crook near the clump on the right. Another 20" and it looked like another 16/20" top log. Thanks for watching.
georgehave hi. I think this is my 4lb. Stroax. I picked up the last 2 4lbers & 5lbers that Madsen's had back in the 90s. I actually lost this ax in a yarder block one time. We had one unit cut on that road system but the SideRod "recalculated" and wanted to log a different one first. So,,, we dove in. Long days going for broke. I was hucking the ax up the hill and forgot about it. Blew right by it. Two days without an ax... They logged the unit, forestry burned it that winter, and I waited for the snow to melt the next spring. By God's grace, found it. Used it as found for 13 more years (off and on - mostly on) before the handle finally broke. I think that the fire cured the wood handle. Never had a handle last that long before - not even close. Long winded but an interesting history. Thanks for watching.
Watch and learn boys and girls. Man those trees have some gnarly cork like bark on them. You could do a whole show on those west coast trees and their characteristics. I've never seen them up close and personal like that. Was that fatty a fir?
Never seen a chain so loose you could put it right back on like a bicycle...sure there's a good reason...is it because of the long bars you guys use out west??
Dean hi. I don't run my chain loose. It's a technic that works well with a little bit longer bar. Yes, not interested in a bar dismount procedure that takes 10 x longer. Thanks for watching.
Mike hi. The weather is usually "worser" in the first part of January, so no. I'm assuming you are from another part of the country based on the weather/clothing question? This area has the most consistent temperature of any other place on the planet that I know of. Thanks, and for watching.
hotsaws101 Thanks for the answer, yes I’m from Iowa and it’s currently -5 here. Guess I’m not even sure where you’re from. I do enjoy your tree falling videos. By the way the 572 sounds good
qsic38 hi. At this point, I'm a fan of the oem components. I've tried a few different versions of topend assemblies. They all have issues. Excessive tolerance, and/or elliptical bores, and/or SUPER thin plating to name a few. Some of the reasons people have a lot of problems with the cylinder assemblies chunking/seizing etc. Thanks for watching.
There was word that the land owners were going to show since this was right on the road/landing. Cannot be improperly attired for the round table session.....
Stevecroon hi. It weighed ~ 15.2lbs. But, I made the full wrap bars and big kid dawgs. The factory version will most likely be a little less than this one by a .1 or so. Thanks for watching.
@@CSkwirl There's been several people complaining this week about issues with UA-cam and the uploading of hires videos, amongst other issues. Just wanted to make sure that the poster was aware of this one being at 360p.
Don't listen to the strong-arm quarterbacks here on youtube, any real arborist or logger will tell you to always take your time on the face cut, it could quite literally save your life.
The perfect marriage between a top notch saw and a master faller. Enjoy it folks.
Don’t worry about the idiots who try and talk about your speed, most of them probably haven’t even started a saw!!
You know your job, take your time, get it right!
I love watching the whole process, no matter how long it takes. God bless you Jack
heck at least half of them have probably never seen an actual forrest.
Yeppers ! It’s always an easy/quick job - when you’re NOT doing the cutting/work !
@@dancarlin5434 the add council runs PSA's on the radio with a website you can go to "to find a forest near you" just for people like that.
@@mudguts77 lol
Mr.Jack could watch a person with your skills work all day.
You just do what you do, love the work you do and your teaching, keep it brother, stay safe out there. Let them hate.
Jack, amazing work! I find the whole tree felling process fascinating. Most don’t realize all the physics and skill that goes into the job. Brilliant work! That 572 ran awesome as well. God Bless my friend, stay safe.
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High dollar wood like that justifies taking all the time one needs. Not like cutting chip wood where you just need them on the ground! Also nice to see most of the processing and not just the falling. Always a pleasure watching your falling videos.
I liked how you blocked the sawdust with your left hand while doing the vertical buck. I’ll add that to my bag of tricks. Thanks for taking the time to share what you do.
My suggestion is to be cautious when doing that,
lest the saw kick back and saw your arm. Thanks for watching.
Never seem to tire of your attention to detail with these valuable trees! Thanks for the video, I do enjoy the longer ones! Work safe!
Jack, you just do what you do with a saw in your hands and let the magic happen...............the easy chair timber cutters will always complain regardless the skill or proficiency you possess, clearly you do just dandy in the shade reduction business. Also nice to see that you left the frustrations of your work in the video too, cuz like you said God will keep us humble and we're only human after all. I think that's the first chain throw I've seen on UA-cam, and how nice it was to see you slip it right back on with a knee. Keep the videos coming Jack, safe cuttin and best to you and the family for 2019
So how does the 572 compare to the 372 in your opinion?
I'm learning.
I love watching your videos.
I have learned alot.
Greatness is very Humbling.
These trees, these Men.
Have my Respect.. My Admiration.
Thanks, my uncle cut timber in Humboldt for 40 years. Lived in trinidad,an mckinlyville. Good videos you have.
David hi. Bet he has some good stories. Nice area for sure. Thanks for watching.
Awesome saw, awesome 🌲 tree, awesome logger! You've got to be one of the best Jack!
Man I love that saw, great work on the set up
It fell exactly where you wanted it
Awesome
Bigbuck 10 k
The way that saw was cutting I would have swore it was a rotten tree. Awesome machinery!
A stout saw and a truly sharp chain is wild, isnt it? Remember when my grand dad taught me how to properly round file, and later when he introduced me to square ground chain. It was years later I picked up my first ported saw and was then truly awed.
Love your stuff man, but I have one question for ya? Don't you guys ever run into bee's in that part of the country? I always had a dog with when I was cutting and every time I dropped a tree the dog would run up and down the tree to see if their were any little critters in it, and she would find the bee hive's before I got to them! She saved my butt many times, miss that old dog. Have a good one.
Organized n planned attack.. Nice job, very smooth hot saws
That's much more like my own experience limbing and bucking than I usually see on your channel, Jack ;)
I could be minimum bucking, full man-ing , or somewhere in between. It just depends on the felling prescription for that particular unit.
As a side note, I try and do a little extra, mostly for the chaser/s, when falling right on the landing. Thanks for watching.
That saw pulls that bar nicely jack .... you don’t need told from the couch quarterbacks or other “professionals” alike.... gunning to a lay you couldn’t see clearly... and it was pile driver on and didn’t bust it in the guts... enough said there.... anyone that knows anything about this profession knows and understands the critical matters in the face cut... thanks for showing your professionalism , wisdom, and teaching us younger generation treemen a thing or 2
What would a rough estimate be for retail value of that tree at 3750bdft?
In north-west Wis if that was white pine or Red Pine it would be worth right around 900 bucks depending on the mill.
Kyle hi.
Here is my interpretation.
Redwood decking has 3 grades that I know of - good, gooder, and goodest. I think that the boards are 2" thick. It ranges somewhere between 9.00 and 15.00 a square foot depending on the quality of the board and retailer's price.
Board feet are figured on a 12" square that is 1" thick. So in theory, there is almost 1/2 as much decking from total volume, except, the recovery of today's mills is more like 90/100%. Which means you get paid for 50 boards, let us say, and the mill realizes ~ 90 or 100.
So just looking at a straight conversion for an average cost per per square foot on a deck board @ 12 with deck boards being 2x a standard board foot then this tree would yield ~ 1875 square feet of decking material.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 Thanks for that. Hopefully after reading this people will realize why it pays to take your 'sweet time' when falling a tree such as this. Obviously the mills pay you guys a fraction of the retail value of the wood but even a fraction say 2 bucks/bdft. works out to 7500 dollars for one tree. When you exlain what an old growth redwood is worth most peoples jaws drop.
@@smithtradfallning - There is a lot of cost associated with the end product that may get overlooked. The forestry aspect in California is one of the most costly. Shipping, because of all the enviro regs, is another. The state taxes you into submission also, so that is a consideration. It's expensive to do business in California.
With all that, the end result does net a tidy sum for "someone's" in the process. Thinking the mill isn't hurting to bad.....
@@hotsaws101 Absolutely.
Your an incredible faller danger cat and that chain trick was awesome stay safe buddy
Wow thats a lot of wood!! Love how you take your time, teaches us all watching that your craft is hard earned and requires patience. Hey also why did you tPer the two logs on the ends at the cuts? Thanks and hi from aus
What are you doing when you hold your tape up to tree? While its still standing.
I believe he's "plumbing" the tree to check for lean. Big evergreens that look straight as an arrow from a distance still have some lean when checked against a plum line. He makes small adjustment to the cut based on this.
He is also checking the fall line as he cuts the wedge.
Been enjoying your videos. How did you get the chain back on and tight without loosening the bar nuts?
Fred hi. @ ~ 25:20 is the start of the process. Make sure the drivers are in the rim sprocket. Take the length out of the bar (i.e. bend in the middle) and roll the chain on over the nose sprocket in the tip. Gloves need when it's warm.... Thanks for watching.
Thanks. It looked like magic when you rolled it over the nose, haha.
Nice long vid jack. I like it. Hello from eastern wa.
I had an axe handle that my dad picked up at a foundry that was used to push red hot things around. It lasted 10 times longer than a new one. It was hickory.
Is there a reason y the notch was 50% of the tree ?
Was thinking the same!
Fred hi. Contrary to the popular sentiment, there is no hard and fast rule on the size/depth of the undercut. It ALWAYS depends on the what/how/why the guy needs the tree to do. If I want a certain reaction by the tree then I make the undercut a certain way.
So yes, there is always a reason for what I'm doing on the stump.
Thanks for watching.
Tks for the reply love ur vids. I was just thinking that the undercut deeper to the center of the tree, to move the pivot point further under the lean (center line of the tree) of the tree to make the back lean less.
Fred hi. There is less chance of drift as the width of the undercut get wider. I did use my axe to watch the tree as the deck was being sawn in. But, a guy can get into big trouble if/when attempting that technique. I found that "best be payin attention" to the process if trying to use the weight of the tree against itself. If it fails, you have a tree gone over backwards....
Thanks for watching.
Stay safe and keep em coming.
Is that what them 572’s sound like stock bc were still waiting for our few we ordered we’ve been running 562’s and I was wondering if they were that loud
Well that saw is not stock especially being with Mr jack so probably not
Nice longer video jack !
What is that little metal chain you keep using that's clipped to your belt loop?
Plumb bob for judging lean.
@@seanangermeier3266, thanks for the quick reply and never seen one used and looks like a good tool to have
You can sight down the chainsaw for direction also.
Nice job, that thing seems to have more guts than a stock 372. This is the last year for 372.
It Is ported mind you. Stay safe. Be blessed and bless others.
Why does it sound like it has such an erratic idle after being revved up?
John hi. I experimented with a couple of different things with this saw. In the end, it ended up not being all 572xp original fitment components. Think there is an inherent carb influence that will be prevalent in the first rendition that hits the market. But, we can always hope..... Thanks for watching.
What size bar do you have on that? 36”?
Danny hi. I run a 33"er, well what I call it anyway because that what it measures, a lot. It's a 110 driver .375 pitch bar. "They" call it a 34" bar. Thanks for watching.
hotsaws101 thanks, I have a 572xp and I’ve just fitted a Full Wrap Bar on it, I run a 24” bar on it but would like to buy a bigger bar to run it on for bigger timber jobs.
What did you think about that saw?
Do you run square ground chain? If so do you hand sharpen in the woods?
Longarc48 hi. Yes I do. Not unless it needs a quick touch up. Thanks for watching.
Out in the jig weeds or pucker brush ! Or the Crows carry nap sacks or so far out that you can't get there from here! Oh by the way nice one Jack !
What was the length,and diameter of that one?
Davis hi. I think it was ~ 44/46" the narrow way across the hinge. I think the logs were 20, 24, 36, 32, 24 to the crook near the clump on the right. Another 20" and it looked like another 16/20" top log. Thanks for watching.
hey jack, whats the chain you use to gauge the lean of the tree?
Dustin hi. It's a keyback. Thanks for watching.
What’s that chain you use prior to cutting?
What brand of ax do you use?
Seems like you have used it forever.
georgehave hi. I think this is my 4lb. Stroax. I picked up the last 2 4lbers & 5lbers that Madsen's had back in the 90s. I actually lost this ax in a yarder block one time. We had one unit cut on that road system but the SideRod "recalculated" and wanted to log a different one first. So,,, we dove in. Long days going for broke. I was hucking the ax up the hill and forgot about it. Blew right by it. Two days without an ax... They logged the unit, forestry burned it that winter, and I waited for the snow to melt the next spring. By God's grace, found it. Used it as found for 13 more years (off and on - mostly on) before the handle finally broke. I think that the fire cured the wood handle. Never had a handle last that long before - not even close. Long winded but an interesting history. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 man, I love finding stuff you think you lost, and for what you, and the ax went through it was woth the story. Thanks, Jack.
You said this tree was "super valuable". About how much is that in dollars?
I love to watch you work. Your skill level amazes me.
Mark hi. I replied to Kyle Smith in the comments along this line earlier. Please check it out.
Thanks for watching.
Husky sounds sweet great video
Watch and learn boys and girls. Man those trees have some gnarly cork like bark on them. You could do a whole show on those west coast trees and their characteristics. I've never seen them up close and personal like that. Was that fatty a fir?
Man that 572 screaming
Never seen a chain so loose you could put it right back on like a bicycle...sure there's a good reason...is it because of the long bars you guys use out west??
Dean hi. I don't run my chain loose. It's a technic that works well with a little bit longer bar. Yes, not interested in a bar dismount procedure that takes 10 x longer. Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 would this work on a 30" bar?
Dean hi. As long as the operator knows the technic he probably won't get a "nick" in the process. So yes but with a caveat.
@@hotsaws101 I tried it...working good so far...thinking it probably keeps the bar and chain a touch cooler too
Was this videotaped earlier in the year? No snow and short sleeves?
Saw does sound nasty!
Mike hi. The weather is usually "worser" in the first part of January, so no.
I'm assuming you are from another part of the country based on the weather/clothing question? This area has the most consistent temperature of any other place on the planet that I know of.
Thanks, and for watching.
hotsaws101
Thanks for the answer, yes I’m from Iowa and it’s currently -5 here. Guess I’m not even sure where you’re from. I do enjoy your tree falling videos. By the way the 572 sounds good
Great vid as aslways keep up the good work
That sounds like it got attitude
Cheers
Sweet saw 👌excellent work👍
Hotsaws101 you should take one of the Chinese clones of the 372 or 660s I see allover UA-cam and put your touch on one
qsic38 hi. At this point, I'm a fan of the oem components. I've tried a few different versions of topend assemblies. They all have issues. Excessive tolerance, and/or elliptical bores, and/or SUPER thin plating to name a few. Some of the reasons people have a lot of problems with the cylinder assemblies chunking/seizing etc.
Thanks for watching.
Would be good to see, from the pov of not everyone being able to spare $ to buy the big saws 👍🏻👍🏻
Cool way to put a chain on.
It is a temperate rainforest after all. Casual Friday?
There was word that the land owners were going to show since this was right on the road/landing.
Cannot be improperly attired for the round table session.....
@@hotsaws101 hahaha. Awesome
Nicely done 🌲👍
Nice young tree, estimate on age, 60ish?
That 572 sounds angry and hits the limiter instantly, I am impressed Jack how much does the 572 weigh?
6.6 kg
14.5 lbs
Stevecroon hi.
It weighed ~ 15.2lbs. But, I made the full wrap bars and big kid dawgs. The factory version will most likely be a little less than this one by a .1 or so.
Thanks for watching.
got that heater on this one #rocketsaw
Wow that big chips
It's displaying in 360p.
UA-cam is probably still rendering the higher resolution video, it takes a while sometimes on long uploads
@@CSkwirl There's been several people complaining this week about issues with UA-cam and the uploading of hires videos, amongst other issues. Just wanted to make sure that the poster was aware of this one being at 360p.
Nice work
Just how it is
good job!
Don't listen to the strong-arm quarterbacks here on youtube, any real arborist or logger will tell you to always take your time on the face cut, it could quite literally save your life.
Thebest
Wshoa !