10 Exciting Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 Boards
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- I've been following these projects for a few weeks, and I wanted to share them with you. I know it's still hard to get your hands on the official Compute Module IO Board, but maybe you won't have to, if you're able to get your hands on one of these unique and awesome other boards!
Some of them are released under the Open Source Hardware License, so you could even build them or make improvements to them on your own. Other ones are still in concept or prototype phase, but whatever the case, I'm excited about all of them and will be tracking these and more new boards in this GitHub issue:
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Contents:
00:00 - Pi PCIe Card Database
01:10 - GitHub issue tracking CM4 Projects
01:17 - BG5USN's PiTray Mini
01:58 - Turing Pi V2
03:11 - CM4 Micro ATX Motherboard
04:41 - Gumstix IO board with M.2 slot
05:10 - Gumstix CM4 to CM3 slot adapter
05:57 - PiKeeb
06:43 - StereoPi V2
07:13 - mebs_t Pi CM4 NAS board + case
08:19 - Uptime Lab CM4 1U Blade Server
08:51 - Piunora
10:14 - Possibilities
10:51 - CM4 Availability
12:21 - Open Source Hardware
13:05 - Working in the open
14:07 - Baby Launch Upcoming! - Наука та технологія
Just had time to watch this video. I have all of Saturday to review some of the boards you reviewed today.
I’m on a waiting list right now and maybe luckily to get some items earlier in January or February.
Thanks for this update and as always keep pushing the envelope!
9:05 its not just about plugging in dupond connectors. The positioning of the female pinheads looks like it will allow the direct plugin of an arduino shield, to interface with.
Nice update...
Looks like 2021 is gonna b full of great projects & things..!
Best of luck with the new baby.!
all i can say i thank you for extorting your knowledge base and putting yourself through the trouble to learn all this important information. Then uploading the journey and links to all resources.
Excellent update and congratulations on the pending new addition.
Please use the video's table of contents (hover over the playhead to scrub through them) to browse through the different boards)!
And it sounds like a few people (not many, unfortunately... supply is still slim!) are finally getting the IO Boards they ordered weeks ago. So there is hope!
I suspect Enterprise customers who order thousands of units get first call. I know there are a lot of big companies that really wanted CM4 boards.
hi，jeff，a fan here！have you checked the mcuzone cm4 board？m.weibo.cn/detail/4577659583463712
@@shawnnlee I hadn't yet, but now it's in my list! github.com/geerlingguy/raspberry-pi-pcie-devices/issues/25#issuecomment-745730511
Congratulations on the new addition to the family!
Congratulations on the, soon to come, new baby/family member and I wish many blessings for you and your love ones.
You crazy Jeff, I have two kids. you crazy..
I join Congratulations, Jeff :)
Skeet SKEET!
THanks for the vid, super interested in the ATX board, and grats on the new kiddo!
Congrats on the new baby!
Great video Jeff, really interesting to see an overview of how compute modules could be used.
Amazing. I love the options. Looking forward to custom laptop cases.
Really great videos ! Keep it coming !
Some of those boards are just lovely for the pi cm4 . and congratulations on the new baby coming shortly
Thank you!
Thanks for the update👍😀
Congrats!!!
Great work again!
congratulations and keep up the good work.
Congratulations on new coming baby. 🙂🙂
Dang it! Now I'm gonna have to get one of these CM4s....once they become available.... >_<
Thanks Jeff! :D
Congratulations! Cheers
Thanks for sharing!
very very excited about the microATX carrier board, id certainly buy one
"Until next time I'm Jeff Geerling (after that I might change my name)"
Not a native English speaker, but that sounded funny. 😅
I hope there's no delays on the baby delivery! 🙂
Ha! Well, we'll just have to see if I'm still me next time...
@@JeffGeerling If not you could hand over to yourself without handing over to yourself. 😅
@@JeffGeerling You aren't honestly thinking about hyphenating your last name to include "Red Shirt" are you? I've seen what he's done with hacksaws in the past. Poor poor Raspberry Pi.
@@JeffGeerling That's why we watch your videos: geek stuff presented by a geek guy. Yep, that's still Jeff Geerling!
The new Pi Compute will be the killer product of the year, have mine on back order along with my Pi-400 still waiting and only live about 70 from the Pi factory!
ordered mine in October. Got mine yesterday.
Very cool stuff out there! Thanks for the link Jeff! I really like the idea of the micro-atx board adapter, since I have a ton of old cases around here that would make for good, cheap, relatively fast desktops. Hopefully they won't want a premium price for that board when it's released, and maybe by then, there will be an option to boot directly from an M.2 NVME drive and speed it up even more.😁👍 Do you know if there are plans in the works for an 8GB. Pi4B yet?? That would be the ticket for some of the heavier desktop distros out there...
Could the cooling be improved by spinning the ribs of the cooler 90 degree in 2:43. So that the air flow could pass between the ribs and flow bottom up?
would totally be into a full cased up pi itx that could run a real gpu
Pi Pro in a SFF case would be a great addition to the family - a while cube with red trim and Pi keyboard/mouse to keep with the official style :-D
Or a red and white 1u case
@@stephenvalente3296 given the pi400 is named after keyboard enclosed amigas which started as hundred series then a cased up pi would probably have to start as a Pi-1000.
I suspect the system would be bottlenecked by the low-power CPU, making the graphics card all but useless.
So the I/O board just enables certain features, and then you can disconnect the module and put it in something else with the same connections/features?
I'm still fairly new to this, but have you taken a look at gumstix's design tool geppetto? It seems kind of like legos for pcb design. They have the Gumstix cm4 board set up as a template, so to make a custom board all you have to do is remove the components you don't want and then reposition the ones you do to save space.
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Jeff Geerling can run windows 10 on the compute moduel and use the pcie extesion with the compute module tp run a pcie radio tuner?
hey jeff, excellent work you are doing!!, i just wanted if you could test the dsi port with a mipi display, as the cm4 supports the 4 lane dsi, we can directly run mipi displays? but i think it needs drivers or a mipi display with same connection as the cm4 port? can u please test mipi displays, no one(as much as i have crawled youtube) have done mipi displays thing on it! thanks!!
I'm looking for some hardware to run docker and the tpu .. to be plug and play ... So I can run frigate ? What would you recommend ?
Very interesting. I wonder if there is any IO board that could be used to build a Volumio streamer, that can be attached to an external USB DAC, and has better characteristics (electric noise and jitter) of the standard raspberry pi 4 SBC.
Would it be possible to set up a PCIe fabric between multiple CM4's and other peripherals like NVMe SSD's and NIC's?
just got a board from waveshare look intriguing but I have an early board with the usb issue and can't find a fix under win 10 have not had time to work on it oh and the waveshare does not have the pci slot but poe on the board and 5 volt or 12 volt fan header
that Pinuora is quite intriguing for robotics or an openCV build
Hey Jeff have you tried connecting a PCIe-to-PCI bridge to the CM4? It would be awesome to use that to connect older, conventional PCI cards to a pi.
I haven't yet, but it's something I've considered-check out the discussion here: github.com/geerlingguy/raspberry-pi-pcie-devices/discussions/9
Thank you!
@@JeffGeerling Just realized this opens up another black hole with classic hardware, like 3DFx Voodoo 1 cards :O And you can go one step deeper with a PCI-ISA adapter and try out eg. an old ISA floppy drive controller. Oh my..
@@JeffGeerling This is interesting...."The Voodoo cards most likely don't use any I/O BARs too, so you don't have to workaround it."
I would love a hybrid of the Pi matx and the Turing pi2, combining the formfactor and features of the pimatx w/ the multi module nature if the Turing pi
Cool! Thanks, Jeff, for mentioning the PiKeeb Project! Little addition: PiKeeb has a sliding 7-inch display underneath the keyboard and a battery, so it's essentially a portable device for on-the-go typing. You can see the first prototype in action here: ua-cam.com/video/6ON3knHI1Aw/v-deo.html
Oh wow, I completely forgot about the screen! Very nice, makes it much more than just a "more awesome Pi 400" :)
Hello dear
I’d like to know what you do with you’r rpi clusters? can you tell us what rpi clusters can be used?
thank you for your work, i really like what you do to rpi.
Thanks!
That pi4 Compute Module with the mechanical keyboard looked like something out of the Matrix Films!
this is an epic list
A Board that Fitness the Layout of my HP N45L would be nice.... i just need 2 pcie 1× ... where can j learn how to make boards?
I have the feeling that these compute modules are going to share the market probably 50/50 with the standard SBCs in the mid term.
Aww I’ve been making my own should’ve done it faster!
Let me know about it when you get something together; I'm sure I'll be doing a round 2 sometime!
Is it possible to get Raspberry Pi 4 computer modules in a cluster with power USB and ethernet and booting all through the USB type-c port?
Good luck with the next baby project!
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@@JeffGeerling You need to ensure you enable SSH before first boot...makes for much easier remote diaper cleaning!
The heatsink from the Turing pi 2 looks oddly Familiar to a 1U Server heatsink, which could be really efficient, depending on how close these modules are together. If they are close enough together, you could put something like a 3D-printed 'shield' below/above the cooler so you could use a high pressure fan and force the whole airflow through the Heatsink
Are there any slim io boards to create a thin iPad like device
I would LOVE the mATX board! Could use console-sized cases to build a HTPC out of one of these. Really neat, definitively going to see how to keep track of that project. Super neat. =)
I also have a Thin-ITX case. Who knows, maybe that finally gets use (after accidentially buying it while thinking it was mITX...)
I would like a pie for compute module USB stick, I'm imagining something similar to the blade 1u rack. Where you can plug in as many pie sticks, but also M.2 Sticks.
Congrats on the new baby sir! My daughter is a January 22 baby. A soon-to-be 31 year old baby! Funny thing is when she was born I was doing a lot of system level hacking with MS-DOS, NetWare, and the early, early Windows systems that involved OS hacking, hardware hacking, and all around cool stuff. I worked for a little 3 man company called TurboPower Software and we ghost wrote software for the two big language vendors back then. The baby didn't interfere at all though she did make me more conscious about leaving little parts around. Jeff, I have a project coming up where it may make sense for us to speak by some modern magic a/v chat system (anything but a phone!). My background: serial entrepreneur: invented swappable pop programs in the DOS days (assembly language 6k resident shell could then turn any Turbo Pascal or C++ program into a background popup) before DOS supported any real multi-tasking, inventor and patent (named inventor now expired) of Symantec's LiveUpdate, pioneer of internet streaming media, builder of core technology for online (once-NFL branded) online football game, patent inventor for many of Affectiva's "affective computing" patents, and one of the 6 listed inventors of the Jibo robot (cover of Time Magazine Mov 27, 2017). I got some new things up my sleeve and they were well may involve the Pi or other SBC. I don't know if you do contracting side gigs or not, but it might be fun to just talk about some nerdy, geeky stuff. Again congrats on the addition to the family and on this fun youtube channel. What are you doing still working with PHP with your skills man?!?
Haha, PHP is so much better today than it was when I first got started with it; still runs great on almost anything including toasters and SBCs :)
But I have been doing a little more Python lately, mostly to make sure things are more integrated into the Pi ecosystem where it's kinda the lingua franca.
@@JeffGeerling I was (mostly) just teasing. I know thanks to WordPress PHP is still in demand. I believe around 2002 was my last startup where we used it as a core server language. These days I like Python and NodeJS for a lot of stuff, good ole C++ or assembly when the pedal must hit the metal, and I've been learning Go lately for kicks. I've been doing this stuff professionally 35 years now so I've seen things come and go. I still remember the incredible awesomeness of Turbo Pascal when for about $50 you got an IDE, compiler, linker, and debugger! Went on to partner with Anders on some projects. Now of course he's famous for C# and other innovations. Don't use that language because I need a) Mac compatibility, b) Linux deployability, and in some cases, c) OS-less embeddability. I enjoy your channel because of quest for knowledge and you passion for sharing it. Good qualities in a person. Keep up the good work. I wasn't joking about the chat. The project is likely going to require a lower latency networking system than WiFi (wired Ethernet MIGHT do it), and a high quality, low latency audio interface. I may be making huge assumptions on the video plumbing already built in but have watched your struggle with graphics cards. There are a couple of directions this project may go depending on the outcome of some experiments. While I do work primarily in emerging technology, I like to work only 1-3 years ahead of the curve so that the value-added product is ready when the emerging technology and user need/pain/wants converge. This is an idea that began 20 years ago and continues to morph and grow. The pandemic really cemented the need and desirability. It's unfunded, but that's not a big deal. I have been able to raise, with partners, hundreds of millions of dollar since the latter 1990s. But never take money before you need it (or is it always take money before you need it when it is cheaper in pounds of flesh?). Right now I am underemployed but the usual cast of characters have come knocking with some great pitches or willingness to support some of my own ideas.
oh yeah, seeing the Squier Strat behind you is another reason I suspect you may share some interests in this project. In addition to my Fenders, I have a brand new Squier Affinity Tele my sweetie bought me for my birthday after I showed her the pretty red $230 guitar. Well that guitar, now named "Liz the Firecracker", has lit my life on fire and reminded me of the rush I got playing when I was 19 in front of a crowd of drunken college woman! [the drinking age was 18 when I was 18, 19 when I was 19... I was grandfathered in]. The interesting thing about the Affinity Tele, the RPi4, the Blackstar Studio 10 KT88 amp I bought... is all that we are living in a great period to be a creative technologist/artist hybrid. For less than $1000 I built a new all tube-based guitar rig kicks some serious butt. That's all in for less than the 1/3 the price of the last acoustic guitar I bought! Add a few more tube-based circuits for mic-pres, an audio interface, and a dozen or so microphones and you can be a YouGram, InstaTok, FaceCloud or TweetTok, Googlgantuan. Beyond music my other huge passion is security/privacy/compliance/safety/ethics. It's really one subject that just manifests in many ways. The value of data collection for ML/BA is undeniable, but so is the risk to the privacy of every device user or even walker on our streets. Somewhere there's a kinder, gentler, more fair way to obtain insights without risking the safety of every citizen of the planet. OK, maybe not. But there should be!
would it not be cool to have a clusterboard where the pi cm4 are chained via the pcie lanes that would increase their compute power compared to when they linked over lan wouldn't it(as in faster memory lanes)
i would like to see a CM4-based pocketsized handheld with passive cooling on the backside
Have you considered to try out some of the (low end) M.2 based VGA cards?
PiBlade is very interesting concept for cluster deployment testing
Thank you. I wonder if anyone knows tha baseboard for Google Coral SoM? I bought two SoM but cannot find baseboard for it * :
Is there a board with a servo controller and camera port for making robots?
Not yet, but I bet someone will have something like that-a "CM4 HAT that's actually just a board the CM4 plugs into"
I just bought pi 4b 8gb, and I don't really know where to start. I want to do some programming and create some DIY projects with it. Anyone have any idea where I should start as a beginner?
I honestly like the RPi 4 Beginner's Guide-it's a great intro: www.raspberrypi.org/products/beginners-guide-pi-4/?resellerType=home
Im still waiting to get my cm4, and i ordered the day it was released..
I'm personally thinking on making a handheld out of a CM4, as it's form factor is more friendly for that application, however I already have a lot of other projects, and I'm lacking of money. I did however found out that it wouldn't be too hard to use an actual MIPI-DSI display instead of some HDMI or DPI hack. My biggest gripes with CM4 is the 5V input that would most likely need a 2 cell li-pol battery, and that you can't opt-out from the ethernet controller for exchange of an additional PCI-express lane that I would use for a better WiFi controller instead, and then use the secondary SD controller as a card reader.
Thank you for the great video and work that went into listing the peripherals / boards.
And now an unqualified comment to ignore:
It seems we are leaving the $30 mark behind us ... ;)
Very cheeky, and if there was nothing but Raspberry Pi's in the world: (e.g. NAS) What would I do with $ 120-200? : P
I am designing a custom board for an old atom laptop. I will use the compute module 4 & replace the whole motherboard of that laptop and replicate all the ports and keyboard mouse ..
This is a great idea. I'd love to be able to replace some of the internals of my old laptops with CM4s too, but it's difficult because almost every laptop model has a different motherboard layout. Volume production would likely be out of the question.
I’d honestly love to see a Turing Pi for CM4 that uses something similar to the CM3, but packed full of features like HDMI, usb 3.2 gen2, gigabit ethernet, multiple PCI 1x slots and dedicated SATA in a microATX or ATX form factor
Thanks for acknowledging the real-world lack of supply. I haven't been able to get even the bare-bones CM.
I keep seeing the 1GB (and sometimes 2GB) models available from some suppliers, but only Lite with no wireless. I'm really hoping the new year will make it so they're all more available!
Do we have any open requests for the Pi foundation to allow direct NVMe boot in the the firmware? Because that would be really cool to have.
People have been asking, e.g. www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1767993#p1767993
It's on their radar, but they seem to have other priorities currently.
@@JeffGeerling I really hope it becomes reality at some point. Thanks!
So I had an idea the other day, not sure if it's possible.
Is it possible to cluster Turing Pis? Like, could you take the master nodes of say 4 Turing Pis and cluster them, so you can have a cluster of clusters? Multi Layer Piception? So those 4 pis would then delegate to their own clusters?
Hell yes, the raspberry must have matx/itx version, whether from the factory or with a daughter card.
I would love to start designing a board that only has POE ethernet, HDMI, and microsd port to create a rack mount for a Rpi cluster
But since I cant find 1 CM4 and 1 dev board I cant start on for testing.
Yup - I'm in the same boat... hoping for early next year.
All I want for xmas is a Pi with two NVMe slots that can be used for booting up TrueNAS, 32GBs of EEC, eight SATA ports, two RJ45 ports, and something for a monitor, keyboard, and mouse... Hopefully I can have this for xmas in 2021!
11:44 that's when you flex on them and go: "Do you know who I am?! D:< "
Instead of using an SD card, couldn't the eMMC be used to hand off the boot to NVME? It sounds faster than using the SD.
Thanks
Good luck with the baby. Let's how she deal with the CM Module 4 😊
Man.... If somebody told me in 2011, when i bought my first Pi, all of this is happening....I was the weird guy by using it at the office.... Now we can plug a pcie card on it... damn this is great stuff.
Definitely keeping an eye on some of them...
Is there a daughter board with an fpga?
What blade do you run your server on
Really want a board that will handle around eight Compute Module 4. Project is SMP in a HPC. Software? Am going to have to build my own distro. Thats in the works but software that will take advantage of this? Thats going to be hard to find really.
Wow I feel better knowing I’m not the only person that cannot get a compute module. I’ve placed orders with I think 4 distributors. When they are finally available I will be swimming in them.
I've managed to order an IO board this week, but the only Compute modules I can find are lower spec ones. Everyone has the 4Gb models on backorder, and the 8Gb editions seem to be reserved for bulk orders; not sure why on the latter. Might have to order a lower spec board just to get it going.
But is it possible to plug a USB 3 to NVME adapter into, for example, the Syba SD-PEX20199 or another USB card with the VL805 chipset and boot from the NVME drive?
Yes; but that slows down the maximum performance of the NVMe measurably :( (see my original CM4 review video for notes on that performance difference).
Booting over USB3 with a NVME adapter works, there're a lot benchmarks out there. But not every adapter chip does work as far as i know!
@@JeffGeerling I was looking to see if it can work. (See post above) And I was looking at how to get usb 3 on the cm4 working. And then I came across a website owned by someone called Jeff Geerling. Do you know him? You have apparently already answered my question on this site: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2020/raspberry-pi-compute-module-4-review under the section "USB Boot?"
@@mrwho30 But the vl805 works. And there are already usb cards of the vl805.
@@JeffGeerling Half a gigabyte per second is more than enough for me.
i ave a board like that daughter bard for the cm4. never got it to boot
Baby production line is working .... congrats!
Build success, waiting on deploy!
Hi, can you make another one of these? So good. I wish you would take your time with each project though and give your thoughts.
Another is coming next week!
Hey,
I’m new to the Pi world.
I was wondering if there can be a mixed setup of Pi-VPN, Pi Hole and NAS hosted on a single Raspberry Pi? Is it possible?
you may need more ethernet interfaces to support your function.
Thanks for your reply Shawnnnlee
What combinations can be clubbed together if this all cannot be handled by a single raspberry Pi.
Does anyone make a CM4 clone, or compatible compute module that would work with all these carriers?
you know it'd be great if I could actually get my hands on a Pi 4 Compute Module so I could start testing the board I want to make for it lol.
If you want to do a modified rpi board is there any license you need?
Nope! Assuming you're not calling it "Raspberry Pi (thing)", you're good to go.
@@JeffGeerling Nice :) Thanks for the reply.
I think I'll be getting the StereoPi V2 when I have the cash. I don't care much for stereoscopic shenanigans. I just want a Pi Zero-like form factor, and this board has everything I need on it in a small form factor.
Thanks for mentioning me 8:19 :)
actually i'm suggesting to use a PoE switch. In my opinion it is much more convenient, reliable and safer.
Ordered some parts for experiments, CM4 looks really nice for customisation.
Will post updates in my instagram instagram.com/uptime.lab (I don't sell anything, just for info )
You have a lot of fun projects and concepts! Definitely worth a follow :)
@@JeffGeerling Thank you so much!
You mention that it's not possible to boot from an NVMe device, is this something that could be fixed through a firmware update or is it a hardware problem?
It could be fixed through firmware-right now the firmware only looks for eMMC/microSD, then USB. It could be modified to look for SATA and/or NVMe storage too.
@@JeffGeerling Great! Apart from the speed are there other advantages with NVMe? I think you said something about SCSI in previous experiments but I don't remember which video it was so I don't recall all the details.
@@masterneme It's mostly the speed / lack of overhead since the NVMe storage can work directly through PCIe.
I would love to know if a PCIe parallel port card would work this would be a game-changer for Linux CNC
Whens Retroflag doing a new cartridge for the GPi case?
Can a carrier board handle pwr/video/data through 1 USB C?
Because of the Pi 4/CM4 SoC itself, USB 3.1 with PD is not supported, so you won't be able to power the Pi _and_ get video out through it, unless you find a hacky way to get a VGA signal through it using it in OTG mode.
For edge AI we need two NVME ports, one for TPU and one for SSD is that possible?
Yes, with a PCIe switch. But note that there are some interesting behaviors with some PCIe switches I've encountered. I'm hoping to do a more in-depth video on PCIe peculiarities on the CM4 soon!
@@JeffGeerling Brill thanks
the idea of booting from m.2 i think that it might be possible. Raspberry pi does allow USB boot, and doesn't the 3.0 USB controller basically use PCI.
Id love a realtime DSP option... For audio and speaker projects
What about the Teensy 4?
FYI the Rocket 620A - RocketHybrid 1423 dual sata works right away on Picm4 out of the box!!!