Amazing! This is closely to how to set up Mainstage and Helix Native! You can also set it up to engage the wah with the wah itself! In mainstage, create a new assignment, type Absolute, using the same CC number as the wah, MIDI Through “Automatic”, send value to “none”. Map that to the switch controlling the wah bypass in helix native. Then use the “scale parameter” functionality in mainstage to disengage the switch when in pedal back position!
I've been a musician for years, recording at home for many of those years, and as a software dev (indie) I am not confident I would have figured this out on my own lol. Honestly, when it comes to music I like to get right to it, but my budget doesn't let that happen. Awesome video and thank you!
@@TSFAHTPS this pedal works alone on the amplitube 5, or does it need a midi controller, I bought m vave chocolate from china midi controller, I wanted to know if the pedal works alone, only it on
Great look! Been looking all over he web to find this solution. Seriously grateful for the advice. Was getting quite frustrated but now I am on cloud 9 and ready to record some magic!
Just discovered this tutorial, and, after scratching my head and dispairing (and swearing!!) for so long ... Eureka - it works!! Thanks so much ... I can now get on with my retirement project of a cover of "White Room" ... !! Just FYI - it might be helpful to others to say what my gear setup is :- MacBook Pro with Logic Pro X; guitar into Scarlett 6i6; Amplitube 5; Roland EV-5 Expression Pedal plugged into iRig Keys Pro (plug into keyboard before connecting USB to MacBook). I had a bit of a struggle working out how to get Logic to "see" the keyboard!! (although it plays instantly if used with Software instruments Piano etc) - found the answer in a short tutorial :- Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Device > Logic Remote > Output Port and Input Port > iRig KEYS Pro I then followed Gabor's tutorial through to recording a track with Wah (btw I chose the "Satch Wah") Smiling again ...
This is a great video - thanks. Another way, if you don't mind printing the effect to the guitar, is to simply setup a software instrument track, load MIDI controlled effect, set up side chaining to the guitar input and then route this track via bus to an audio track where you can record the guitar. Create a stack to neaten it all up.
Hehe…thank you Diego!! I think I’m only doing very little EQ-ing! I gotta check though, I’ve been using the same “plugin video” template for years now…no idea what I used when I set it up!
Yep it makes perfect sense, very clearly explained, thank you. Plugged my pedal in via the expression input on my midi keyboard. Works with Guitar Rig too.
What cable did you need to use for the expression input on the keyboard? Just another guitar cable? How did you sent it up with your keyboard? Same as video but used the keyboard as the input?
An even easier way of doing it in Logic is to use smart controls. Set the parameter mapping to "Amplitube - Param 1". The external assignment is set by using the learn-button, then touching the exp-pedal. Go back to Amplitube, right mouse button on the wah-wah and set "assign automation" to "Param 1: Wah..." . All done, ready to go.
Checked this out last night and it works like a charm! In my case I used it with the Wah in Neural DSPs ToneKing. Even had an old footswitch plugged into it to turn the Reverb on and off.
I wish there was a way for doing the opposite ->Fully opened pedal closing one effect and activating other. And same with fully closed pedal - closing one and opening other. For an example: When fully CLOSED = You get to use wah-wah effect for CHORD PROGRESSIONS & When fully OPENED = You get the drive in for RIFFS
Just right click on the wah and select assign parameter...in logic then right click on the parameter 1 on the track and click the learn function . None of this messing around is needed
Hi there thank you very much for this video. I was wondering if you could bounce your track and create a audio file to print the midi on the audio? That I think might render a full audio track with your recorded midi articulations? Just wondering...
This ALMOST worked for me. My midi track was able to record the pedal's midi, but setting the sidechain back to the guitar track did not result in the guitar track's sound being applied to the midi amplitube channel. By the way, I'm using the iRig Stomp I/O pedal board in hopes that I can use the board's built in expression pedal with amplitube while recording. But no luck so far :(
If you don’t want to record it but just play then any of the IK Multimedia interfaces will do! This video is really only about recording what the expression pedal does in a DAW like Logic! The AXE IO One for example is not very expensive and has two expression pedal inputs in the back, so you can have an expression pedal for a Wah or Whammy or anything like that PLUS a dual switch so you can change channels on the amp or turn effects on or off - it’s very easy to assign what the expression pedal and the buttons do
I don't suppose you could do an addendum video where you don't use your midi airstep interface to show how the pedal works directly into your axe i/o? There has to be a hidden feature that must be clicked to make it all work in Logic. (I happen to have the same i/o and expression pedal as you).
My audio interface does not have an expression pedal input, only a midi in and out. Is it possible to get it to work if I connect it via a convertor cable to a USB port on my Mac?
Great video, so if I buy a AXe I/O audio interface I can plugin the m-audio expression pedal and make it work on Amplitube 5? Do I must use it on Logic or could it be configured on the standalone amplitube app on Mac?
I have a question. I just bought the Ampero controller and an expression pedal. Do I need to assign the buttons and pedal in the Ampero app and then go about it from there? I noticed logic recognizes my controller but I am unable to do anything with it. Help? Please? Lol
Logic seems to be garbage for using Wah or Expression pedals. I only use Logic and like it a lot, but using an expression pedal is tedious garbage. It will not only not work most of the time, it will forget all your hard work setting it up next time you start the app. Its super easy in the standalone amp sims.
OMG why is everything in Logic so difficult? Are other DAWs as difficult with third party hardware integration? It seems that stuff just stops working randomly without any reason or rhyme.
@@TSFAHTPS Sooo, will we see another video on this? I failed miserably to find a way to record with this and have the midi recorded as well. As soon as you do another take all is lost.
I have an AXE I/O and plugged my expression pedal in. After I assign MIDI I can only control the pedal from approx 75% - 100% so I cannot get the pedal to turn off and on properly. How do I get that to calibrate properly? Many thanks
You should be able to calibrate that from your AXE I/O Control Panel App! Sometimes expression pedals have what looks like a volume control knob on the side and if thats not set to full it will not let you get the full range of the pedal!
@@TSFAHTPS Haha thanks! Yes that was the exact issue. Managed to locate a "knob" on the side that was preventing the full range of use with pedals. Probably took me about a week to work that out after exhausting all software options. Definitely felt a bit stupid lol
Hey Gabor.... Wow. Simple... not! How the hell did you figure that lot out? Question- if you just have Amplitube and don’t have Logic is there a way to still get it working? Also I am assuming your running all of this on a Mac rather then a PC correct?
I kinda accidentally stumbled across that...you can technically hook up a midi keyboard and use the mod or pitch wheel on it to do the same! I’m on a Mac...I’d say it should work in most DAWs...you need to create a midi instrument track, see if you can use AmpliTube on that track and then side chain it to the audio track
Yeah, program changes messages do nothing in VST mode, it's really frustrating. Midi gets there since I see the indicator blink, but it only work for learn feature. Unfortanately there is no way to learn program changes either. I really want a refund because of this.
Yeah but it still doesn't seem to work for me when I use it in Logic. It works fine when you use AmpliTube as a standalone app but in Logic it still doesn't want to work for me!
I hace an axe i/o and connected a expression pedal and it works in amplitube but when in amplitube I record the track it doesn't record the wah I played. How can I solve it?
@@TSFAHTPS yep I have an old mac so prefer using less app opened, but unfortunately on the standalone app it doesn't record the midi played, maybe there's a trick making insert, but I don't have any clue and last chance seems screen recording that also eat ram and resources.
Yeah and they now have the “Stomp I/O” which is mostly geared towards the standalone software...I think you will still have to do it this way if you want to use it in a DAW...I think 🤔
@@TSFAHTPS I think that with the Stomp I/O you can add the MIDI to the Wah itself and set Logic to Touch or patch mode in Automation (I don't remember the name right now) and it should record the MIDI data as well. I've done that with the footswitch of the Big Pig pedal and worked flawlessly. Also worked with Studio One (with other tool names 😂)
Amazing! This is closely to how to set up Mainstage and Helix Native! You can also set it up to engage the wah with the wah itself! In mainstage, create a new assignment, type Absolute, using the same CC number as the wah, MIDI Through “Automatic”, send value to “none”. Map that to the switch controlling the wah bypass in helix native. Then use the “scale parameter” functionality in mainstage to disengage the switch when in pedal back position!
I've been a musician for years, recording at home for many of those years, and as a software dev (indie) I am not confident I would have figured this out on my own lol. Honestly, when it comes to music I like to get right to it, but my budget doesn't let that happen. Awesome video and thank you!
Gabor your a genius, have spent hours trying to work out the expression pedal with AmpliTube… really great video many thanks!🙂
Thank you very much!!
@@TSFAHTPS
this pedal works alone on the amplitube 5, or does it need a midi controller, I bought m vave chocolate from china midi controller, I wanted to know if the pedal works alone, only it on
Great look! Been looking all over he web to find this solution. Seriously grateful for the advice. Was getting quite frustrated but now I am on cloud 9 and ready to record some magic!
Glad I could help!!
Just discovered this tutorial, and, after scratching my head and dispairing (and swearing!!) for so long ... Eureka - it works!! Thanks so much ... I can now get on with my retirement project of a cover of "White Room" ... !!
Just FYI - it might be helpful to others to say what my gear setup is :-
MacBook Pro with Logic Pro X; guitar into Scarlett 6i6; Amplitube 5; Roland EV-5 Expression Pedal plugged into iRig Keys Pro (plug into keyboard before connecting USB to MacBook).
I had a bit of a struggle working out how to get Logic to "see" the keyboard!! (although it plays instantly if used with Software instruments Piano etc) - found the answer in a short tutorial :- Logic Pro > Control Surfaces > Device > Logic Remote > Output Port and Input Port > iRig KEYS Pro
I then followed Gabor's tutorial through to recording a track with Wah (btw I chose the "Satch Wah")
Smiling again ...
Glad I could help!! I’ve been meaning to do a follow up video using the Control Surface setup!!
This is a great video - thanks. Another way, if you don't mind printing the effect to the guitar, is to simply setup a software instrument track, load MIDI controlled effect, set up side chaining to the guitar input and then route this track via bus to an audio track where you can record the guitar. Create a stack to neaten it all up.
Do you EQ your voice for the videos? Those bass frequencies are relaxing
Hehe…thank you Diego!!
I think I’m only doing very little EQ-ing! I gotta check though, I’ve been using the same “plugin video” template for years now…no idea what I used when I set it up!
Yep it makes perfect sense, very clearly explained, thank you. Plugged my pedal in via the expression input on my midi keyboard. Works with Guitar Rig too.
Thank you Marpy Mellow! I think this will work with most amp sim plugins!
What cable did you need to use for the expression input on the keyboard? Just another guitar cable? How did you sent it up with your keyboard? Same as video but used the keyboard as the input?
I nearly give up on amplitude, in Ableton the automation way crashes, midi doesn’t, much appreciated, thanks
Great explanation! Knock my hat off! Bravo! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you Diogo!!
An even easier way of doing it in Logic is to use smart controls. Set the parameter mapping to "Amplitube - Param 1". The external assignment is set by using the learn-button, then touching the exp-pedal. Go back to Amplitube, right mouse button on the wah-wah and set "assign automation" to "Param 1: Wah..." . All done, ready to go.
Thank you very much...I will try that!!
😮 will try that for sure!
Checked this out last night and it works like a charm! In my case I used it with the Wah in Neural DSPs ToneKing. Even had an old footswitch plugged into it to turn the Reverb on and off.
How do you set the parameter mapping? Is this within Logic preferences/setttings or within the setttings for the Amplitube plug in?
Thank you very much for the tutorial!! What about program changes? How can you use them inside logic?
Thanks for this solution!
I wish there was a way for doing the opposite ->Fully opened pedal closing one effect and activating other. And same with fully closed pedal - closing one and opening other.
For an example:
When fully CLOSED = You get to use wah-wah effect for CHORD PROGRESSIONS
&
When fully OPENED = You get the drive in for RIFFS
Just right click on the wah and select assign parameter...in logic then right click on the parameter 1 on the track and click the learn function . None of this messing around is needed
oh cool...I gotta try that!! Thank you!!
Thank you! It works!
Hi there thank you very much for this video. I was wondering if you could bounce your track and create a audio file to print the midi on the audio? That I think might render a full audio track with your recorded midi articulations? Just wondering...
Very Interesting !
Hi, you mention you will be doing a new video showing an easier way to do this, but couldn't find it. Could you please let us know ? Thanks
thank's really !!!
This ALMOST worked for me. My midi track was able to record the pedal's midi, but setting the sidechain back to the guitar track did not result in the guitar track's sound being applied to the midi amplitube channel.
By the way, I'm using the iRig Stomp I/O pedal board in hopes that I can use the board's built in expression pedal with amplitube while recording. But no luck so far :(
Muchas gracias. Genio!!
Hi, what is the best price/performance midi to usb device to connect the expression pedal to PC for home users who plays guitar for just fun?
If you don’t want to record it but just play then any of the IK Multimedia interfaces will do! This video is really only about recording what the expression pedal does in a DAW like Logic!
The AXE IO One for example is not very expensive and has two expression pedal inputs in the back, so you can have an expression pedal for a Wah or Whammy or anything like that PLUS a dual switch so you can change channels on the amp or turn effects on or off - it’s very easy to assign what the expression pedal and the buttons do
Thx a ton!
I don't suppose you could do an addendum video where you don't use your midi airstep interface to show how the pedal works directly into your axe i/o? There has to be a hidden feature that must be clicked to make it all work in Logic. (I happen to have the same i/o and expression pedal as you).
I’m planning on doing a video like that soon
with Overloud thu, I can use my pedal directly on audio track via my keylab mkii in studio one. Don't know why amplitubes so difficult.
I just talked to them and they sent me a full version of Overloud...I will check it out
My audio interface does not have an expression pedal input, only a midi in and out. Is it possible to get it to work if I connect it via a convertor cable to a USB port on my Mac?
Great video, so if I buy a AXe I/O audio interface I can plugin the m-audio expression pedal and make it work on Amplitube 5? Do I must use it on Logic or could it be configured on the standalone amplitube app on Mac?
THANKS!!!
I have a question. I just bought the Ampero controller and an expression pedal. Do I need to assign the buttons and pedal in the Ampero app and then go about it from there? I noticed logic recognizes my controller but I am unable to do anything with it. Help? Please? Lol
now my question is,can i do this but instead of the midi controller a midi keyboard? i dont have much money and it would save me a lot
Yes you can…but there is an easier way I just figured out…I’ll do a video soon!!
@@TSFAHTPS amazing! And does this tutorial work generally with most vsts and reaper? I want to use a whammy plugin on reaper while playing…
I followed all instructions here...Wah works but MIDI track does not record...please help!
"Nothing happens. Why does nothing happen?" That's how I spend most of my time "recording" on a "hi tech computer".
That’s modern technology for ya 😜
You said it brother!!
hey friend how can I record the pedal loop in reaper with amplitube 5?
Is there a way to do this in garageband? Can't seem to be able to choose the instrument when creating a new midi track?
Can the Ik stealth pedal be used with this method?
Logic seems to be garbage for using Wah or Expression pedals. I only use Logic and like it a lot, but using an expression pedal is tedious garbage. It will not only not work most of the time, it will forget all your hard work setting it up next time you start the app. Its super easy in the standalone amp sims.
is there a solution for the standalone version?
OMG why is everything in Logic so difficult? Are other DAWs as difficult with third party hardware integration?
It seems that stuff just stops working randomly without any reason or rhyme.
There is a much simpler way to do this - I’ll do another video soon!
@@TSFAHTPS Sooo, will we see another video on this? I failed miserably to find a way to record with this and have the midi recorded as well. As soon as you do another take all is lost.
I have an AXE I/O and plugged my expression pedal in. After I assign MIDI I can only control the pedal from approx 75% - 100% so I cannot get the pedal to turn off and on properly. How do I get that to calibrate properly? Many thanks
You should be able to calibrate that from your AXE I/O Control Panel App!
Sometimes expression pedals have what looks like a volume control knob on the side and if thats not set to full it will not let you get the full range of the pedal!
@@TSFAHTPS Haha thanks! Yes that was the exact issue. Managed to locate a "knob" on the side that was preventing the full range of use with pedals. Probably took me about a week to work that out after exhausting all software options. Definitely felt a bit stupid lol
@@p4fizzle happens to the best of us!!
Hey Gabor.... Wow. Simple... not! How the hell did you figure that lot out? Question- if you just have Amplitube and don’t have Logic is there a way to still get it working? Also I am assuming your running all of this on a Mac rather then a PC correct?
I kinda accidentally stumbled across that...you can technically hook up a midi keyboard and use the mod or pitch wheel on it to do the same!
I’m on a Mac...I’d say it should work in most DAWs...you need to create a midi instrument track, see if you can use AmpliTube on that track and then side chain it to the audio track
Can you do in ableton , please , whit a arturia controller midi
Hi, can you change amplitube presets in logic? stand alone mode is ok but in logic does not work
I think you may have to set it up in a similar way to the expression pedal
Yeah, program changes messages do nothing in VST mode, it's really frustrating. Midi gets there since I see the indicator blink, but it only work for learn feature. Unfortanately there is no way to learn program changes either. I really want a refund because of this.
Doesn’t the axe I/o have 2 expression 1/4 “ jacks?..
Yeah but it still doesn't seem to work for me when I use it in Logic. It works fine when you use AmpliTube as a standalone app but in Logic it still doesn't want to work for me!
Thank you for you help but OMG what a nightmare to config
I hace an axe i/o and connected a expression pedal and it works in amplitube but when in amplitube I record the track it doesn't record the wah I played. How can I solve it?
That’s what the video is about! There is actually a simpler way too…I’ll do another video soon!!
@@TSFAHTPS yes, but I don't want to use Logic, just record the track on Amplitube 5, maybe it's not possible
@@DerrenTube oh in the standalone version…sorry I misunderstood! That should work…I’ll check it out, I never really use the standalone version!!
@@TSFAHTPS yep I have an old mac so prefer using less app opened, but unfortunately on the standalone app it doesn't record the midi played, maybe there's a trick making insert, but I don't have any clue and last chance seems screen recording that also eat ram and resources.
This is a great vid, however, I pretty much understood everything, but don't know how to do it via cakewalk. Anyone here know how to?
Can i control the Wha putting expression pedal on keyboards?
Yep...you can do that
@@TSFAHTPS Thanx
How do you do this? If I buy an expression pedal and plug it into my midi keyboard or synthesiser can I control wah with it?
How do you do this? If I buy an expression pedal and plug it into my midi keyboard or synthesiser can I control wah with it through Ableton?
Thanks for another nice video! IK used to make an expression pedal named "Stealth pedal". Don't know if they still do and if it works with v. 5
Yeah and they now have the “Stomp I/O” which is mostly geared towards the standalone software...I think you will still have to do it this way if you want to use it in a DAW...I think 🤔
@@TSFAHTPS I think that with the Stomp I/O you can add the MIDI to the Wah itself and set Logic to Touch or patch mode in Automation (I don't remember the name right now) and it should record the MIDI data as well. I've done that with the footswitch of the Big Pig pedal and worked flawlessly. Also worked with Studio One (with other tool names 😂)
It’s just nonsense that we have to do this in 2022
Yeh ive got an easier solution..... Use ableton
How do you do this Ableton please
How do you do this in Ableton please
How do you do this in Ableton please