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  • Batman’s greatest foe has returned for one last gag. But this time, not even the Joker is laughing. In their last encounter, the Dark Knight failed to live up to Joker’s grand plans, so now the Joker is very serious. The games are over. And everything is on the table. In their most intense, physical showdown ever, nothing is sacred to the Joker-the Dark Knight's family, friends, allies, home base and those he holds most dear... everyone is a target. The Clown Prince of Crime isn't staging a comedy, it's a dark tragedy. Never miss an episode by subscribing today! bit.ly/2WYvgkt #batman
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 257

  • @comicpop
    @comicpop  2 роки тому +107

    Owen Likes Comics did a deep dive into Endgame and more New 52 Batman! ua-cam.com/video/CKfQZiQ3J8I/v-deo.html

    • @ninja1man4u
      @ninja1man4u 2 роки тому +5

      I smell a crossover :)

    • @jonfedien8637
      @jonfedien8637 2 роки тому +1

      Did Ben wear purple in anticipation for the joker? Thanks guys as always you've brightened my day!

    • @SuperboyLilly
      @SuperboyLilly 2 роки тому +2

      OMG, thank you for doing this story!!!

    • @Dusty_B
      @Dusty_B 2 роки тому +2

      👍 nice! Looking forward to it.

  • @kaseyprime9284
    @kaseyprime9284 Рік тому +34

    My favorite line of the episode "He's not a hundred years old... He's an asshole"

  • @CAPappy
    @CAPappy 2 роки тому +157

    I love the panels where Jim is crying tears of joy after “killing” the Joker and telling Batman it’s over and you see in the background Joker getting back up. Chills it feels like something straight from a horror movie.

    • @jasethomas5198
      @jasethomas5198 2 роки тому +21

      Snyder really writes Joker like a slasher villain and it's usually awesome

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +3

      Imagine, for a moment, that you are Jim Gordon, and you have just shot the Joker.
      Just imagine. This man, this _monster,_ has caused you and your family to undergo indescribable suffering and trauma. He has crippled your daughter. He has murdered your wife. He has tried to drive you insane. He has committed countless atrocities, killed and tortured countless innocents, and every night his horrible laughter rings in your ears and you dream of ending his horrid existence. And now, you have just shot him.
      Imagine the sheer _relief_ you must feel, in that instant, because the Joker is dead. He’s dead, and you won. He didn’t drive you mad. He didn’t cause you to abandon your principles. You killed him in self-defense, after giving him a warning and after he gave probable cause - you did it _by the book._ You _won,_ and he’s dead, and every single person that has died, that has suffered, that has grieved their loved ones because of him - they’ve all been avenged. All these years, all this _pain,_ and you did it. It’s over. It’s finally _over._
      And then he gets back up. And you realize that you are in Hell, because you are Jim Gordon, and the Joker cannot die. The Joker *will never die.*

  • @OwenLikesComics
    @OwenLikesComics 2 роки тому +295

    This was such a great episode! Endgame is definitely the tragedy to Death of the Family's comedy, and it's one of my favourite takes on the Joker. He's so chilling and sadistic.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +26

      I personally view this comic as a really messy breakup, and it greatly increases my enjoyment of it overall. Everything Joker does in this story is meant to get Batman’s attention - mind-controlling the Justice League, unleashing the Joker Virus, breaking the secret identity taboo, all of it. It’s like on every page, he’s screaming, “I don’t care about you! You mean nothing to me! Look at what I can accomplish without you holding me back!” When in reality, that’s just not true - Joker’s the same as he’s ever been, just playing mind games and making jokes, because in the end, he’s nothing without Batman. But the tragedy is that he’s also right, that Batman is nothing without him.

    • @someguy42093
      @someguy42093 7 місяців тому

      Have you read the extended version?

  • @startrekfanman
    @startrekfanman 2 роки тому +78

    I wish what Ethan said was actually Batman’s dialogue.
    WW “Maybe we just hate you and want to kill you, because your annoying”
    Batman “whaaaat..? No.”

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 8 місяців тому +10

      Jokerfied Wonder Woman: “We never liked you, you’re too weak and stupid to ever be our friend”
      Batman: “Nuh uh”
      Jokerfied WW: “…The fuck do you mean, _nuh uh?”_

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ 8 місяців тому +6

      ​@@halfmettlealchemist8076
      "Nuh uh" is pretty self explanatory.

  • @scoobers90
    @scoobers90 2 роки тому +227

    So this story boils down to Joker being a spurned lover and saying "I thought what we had was special?" Makes sense.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +32

      This is also the plot of the Lego Batman Movie

    • @antondelacruz9362
      @antondelacruz9362 2 роки тому +19

      Dames. Theyre poison. Drama queens always cutting their faces off to get more attention.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +14

      Bitches will enact an elaborate plan to systematically destroy everything their nemesis holds dear and be like, “Can’t help being a Gemini!”

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +8

      @@joelkirkwood8224 He is, in a way. Joker’s mad that Batman doesn’t take him seriously, and he’s acting out in an attempt to prove him wrong. It’s the supervillain equivalent of trying make your ex jealous.

    • @Vic4vendetta
      @Vic4vendetta 2 роки тому +2

      Yes

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 2 роки тому +60

    Reading Scott Snyder’s run is like watching an 80’s action cartoon, and every five minutes a new character or plot point is introduced to sell more toys… like “Hey kids, ask you parents to buy you the new JL BATtle Suit, only $19.99 at your local Toys R’ Us” lol

    • @brikkboyz22studiosextra
      @brikkboyz22studiosextra Рік тому +7

      yeah minus the horror and creepiness and r rated bloodbath fights and batman's psychological trauma

  • @christopherosborne3480
    @christopherosborne3480 2 роки тому +33

    My theory is The Joker falls every time because his plan fails and therefore the joke falls flat.

  • @querayne6788
    @querayne6788 2 роки тому +13

    Three heavy hitters and Aquaman! I screamed lol shady af

  • @justicerice3589
    @justicerice3589 2 роки тому +92

    I remember hearing somewhere that when you look at someone you love your pupils will widen a little bit and I always thought that was what Snyder And Capullo were going for. When Joker sees Bruce his pupils don’t change but I think it shows elsewhere in the book that when he sees Batman his pupils grow larger.

    • @priceyyeti4058
      @priceyyeti4058 2 роки тому +17

      I think that's exactly it. I remember Batman explaining in his Snyder-isms in Death of the Family during a full-page splash before heading into Arkham.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +10

      Wow. Love wins

  • @codplaya00
    @codplaya00 Рік тому +9

    2:30 Sal’s look of disappointment on how spot on he was 😂

  • @benhramiak8781
    @benhramiak8781 2 роки тому +73

    Think a fav moment of mine in the snyder run is seeing Bruce and a cured joker sitting on a bench and talking. Feels like joker doesn't want Bruce to become batman again cos that means he'd have to come back

    • @danieladams5132
      @danieladams5132 2 роки тому +5

      Favorite of mine too!

    • @sharpc-tudent
      @sharpc-tudent Місяць тому

      It had already been done previously by J M Dematteis in the "going sane" storyline in the 80s in a better way IMO

    • @benhramiak8781
      @benhramiak8781 Місяць тому +1

      @@sharpc-tudent im aware of the story but seeing them both meet while changed is nice

    • @sharpc-tudent
      @sharpc-tudent 20 днів тому

      ​@@benhramiak8781 I thought it was good too, but felt it to be a bit derivative to be honest. Still a good moment for sure

    • @benhramiak8781
      @benhramiak8781 20 днів тому

      @@sharpc-tudent yeah fair

  • @Insane-Howl-Cowl
    @Insane-Howl-Cowl 2 роки тому +57

    I want to see Riddler sue The Joker over the "Eric Border" naming scheme. It could be a legit court case, but everyone outside of Joker and Riddler thinks its a big scheme.

  • @MugenNiFukuzatsuna
    @MugenNiFukuzatsuna 2 роки тому +10

    "Parents die, fuck you, shutup!"
    That is basically Batman's Robin recruitment speech to the tee.

  • @shadowanderson2004
    @shadowanderson2004 2 роки тому +7

    I love how everyone puts comparisons to the signal and the bat signal but forgets that we have a batwing plane and a batwing man

  • @brianadkins3880
    @brianadkins3880 2 роки тому +14

    1:54 What Ethan is saying is he wants you to do SUPERMAN:EMPEROR JOKER!
    2:30 What a deep sigh by Sal after Ethan sort of figures out some of the story before they even get into it! lol

  • @DanV900
    @DanV900 2 роки тому +11

    It was so long ago, but that wasn’t even a Snyder decision to have Joker get his face cut off! Tony S. Daniel did that to start the bad Detective Comics New 52 run. Snyder just took that ball and ran with it in Death of the Family.

  • @wayneigoe6722
    @wayneigoe6722 2 роки тому +21

    This story helps support my theory about Batman's enemies knowing his identity...
    I think there's more people in Batman's rogue's gallery that know that the secret than he realizes, but much like the Flash, they either keep it to themselves out of a warped sense of respect/honor or they keep it to themselves simply because they don't care who he is under the mask.
    I find it best to group his foes into 3 main categories: Those with respect, those with honor, and those who are genuinely crazy.
    The first group is those with a respect for Batman: These are people who can be reasoned with and even made into temporary allies. I like to think Ivy, Harley, Two-Face, and Man-Bat, and Firefly know who he is, but keep quiet because they respect him for having the guts to fight them rather than roll over and give in like any normal person would.
    The second group is those with Honor: These are the ones who only fight when they have to. Ones who are content to be left alone if possible. For example, I think Bane keeps his secret from a warped sense of honor. Like if he told people, it would put people like Alfred, Lucius, and others in the line of fire, and that wouldn't be fair because they did nothing to deserve that. Penguin also can be put in this category. Same goes for people like Deathstroke and Ra's Al Gul. Mr. Freeze also fits in here to an extent.
    Then there's the REALLY crazy ones, and they keep the secret because revealing it would leave them with no else to fight. They keep his secret because on some level, they can't imagine what to do if they aren't fighting him. In this category are Joker, Scarecrow, and Hush. They have a pathological NEED to fight and be stopped. Even if they don't admit it, some part of them WANTS to fail. They want him to stop them, because they can't think of a life beyond this. Its why they have really outlandish costumes, or use weird ass calling cards to tell Batman who they are.
    Now, I will say, this is all just conjecture. Its my personal take on the topic, and I don't really have any evidence to support it directly, but there have been times in the comics that kinda support this idea. As with any theory, take it with a bit of salt unless it has proof.

  • @joshuanelson6795
    @joshuanelson6795 2 роки тому +44

    This is an intense, exciting arc from start to finish, but what really makes it one of the best Batman & Joker stories of all time is their battle at the end. Their fight is so brutal and bloody that it almost did feel like the final Batman story. Almost.

  • @Yoshimitsu4prez
    @Yoshimitsu4prez 2 роки тому +19

    But Metal was REALLY the last time he wanted to use joker. Really!
    *last Knight on earth enters the chat”

  • @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038
    @catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038 2 роки тому +20

    My headcanon is that Bane was inpired by this event to do City of Bane.

  • @AlriikRidesAgain
    @AlriikRidesAgain 2 роки тому +9

    ... I still think the leader of the Court of Owls should have been, like, an ancient Elliot or Cobblepot or Wayne. Specifically, since it's a court, it should have been Judge Solomon Wayne.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 8 місяців тому

      My headcanon is that Simon Hurt/the original Thomas Wayne from Grant Morrison’s Batman run is the true founder of the Court of Owls. I think that would be a pretty cool retcon, considering that it’s been established that the leaders of the Court worship Barbatos, and Hurt founded the original Cult of Barbatos in Gotham, so tying those plot points together would make sense.

  • @brannonh7406
    @brannonh7406 2 роки тому +27

    Great episode! I'm glad Sal has grown more fond of the Snyder and Capullo run.

    • @joshuanelson6795
      @joshuanelson6795 2 роки тому +5

      It's always been one of my favorite, if not my absolute favorite run on the character.

  • @TheGreatDevlin
    @TheGreatDevlin 2 роки тому +16

    This was a very special period in comics for me. I was still new and Green Lantern - my entry book - was falling apart. Then you had #DCYou come in and give me my first "Everything you like will change" moment in comics. Gordon was Batman, Hal Jordan has a mullet and trenchcoat in 2014, Superman was fist fighting and riding motorcycles with a buzz cut, Aquaman was Conan, and Wonder Woman actually was the best member of the Trinity by default for like a year. I almost quit on principal but here I remain lol.

    • @Martin_TheCollector
      @Martin_TheCollector 2 роки тому +2

      Those years were a bit rough indeed. Thankfully DC and Marvel publish a few great runs every now and then. Modern comics are getting real fackin' stupid unfortunately. Too many of them.

    • @TheGreatDevlin
      @TheGreatDevlin 2 роки тому +3

      @@Martin_TheCollector Yeah I legit had All New Ghost Rider and Secret Wars going on too. And I think the Beauty was coming out at Image too.

    • @Martin_TheCollector
      @Martin_TheCollector 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheGreatDevlin I love Secret Wars! Missed out on getting a beautiful oversized hardcover. Think I had the first volume of Beauty but sadly didn't take the time to read it. Sold a buncha books.

    • @TheGreatDevlin
      @TheGreatDevlin 2 роки тому +1

      @@Martin_TheCollector The Beauty was one of the first comics where I was afraid to turn the page bc I knew someone was gonna die. And the premise is fascinating: a STD that makes you the most attractive version of yourself and the effect it has on society.

    • @Martin_TheCollector
      @Martin_TheCollector 2 роки тому

      @@TheGreatDevlin Oh Snaps!! Guess I should've read it. These days I mainly collect big HC's, would be awesome if that series got some. There's many indies that deserve that format. Joshua Williamson's "Birthright" included.

  • @dwise23710
    @dwise23710 2 роки тому +8

    love how Nightwing gets an important play!

  • @loganthomas2421
    @loganthomas2421 2 роки тому +18

    Endgame’s one of my fav stories from Snyder’s run and one of my fav Batman comics period. Wish we’d get more stories that explore Batman and Joker’s relationship like this. Great episode

  • @1337snake888
    @1337snake888 2 роки тому +5

    The upside down bat-signal lmao

  • @WhelmedButReady
    @WhelmedButReady 2 роки тому +17

    All these years learning about comics and watching Back Issues and finally at last it's a full arc that I've read and have a copy of. So this time I'm gonna follow right along with Sal, Ethan and Ben on the couch.

    • @DanV900
      @DanV900 2 роки тому +2

      This is really the first one? Crazy.

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 роки тому +67

    Grayson's been hanging onto this plan since "Batman: The Black Mirror" and his meeting with the Joker.
    *Grayson:* "I'm not _your_ Batman, am I? Well guess what! How about that's the crux of this whole plan, you fool! I gotcha!"
    *Joker:* "Jesus, Dick."
    *Grayson:* "Yes I am!"

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 2 роки тому +4

      wait wasn't this during the time where everyone thought Dick grayson nightwing was dead.

    • @dn22pkkdd476
      @dn22pkkdd476 2 роки тому +2

      @@TevyaSmolka ..... he got better?

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 2 роки тому +2

      @@dn22pkkdd476 yup he became a spy

    • @javonwalker-peters
      @javonwalker-peters 2 роки тому

      I was thinking this! I imagine this being dicks middle finger moment for the joker being like Ha I got you. Which is crazy cause it shows that dick has grown like he fits the role to the point where none of the batfamily guess that he was Batman for a portion of that fight

    • @TevyaSmolka
      @TevyaSmolka 2 роки тому

      @@javonwalker-peters lol that would be really funny if he actually did that to joker.

  • @amolerat4456
    @amolerat4456 2 роки тому +5

    25:29
    At lest it’s not joe keer

  • @TheArtofKAS
    @TheArtofKAS 2 роки тому +9

    God I cant wait for Last Knight On Earth. I remember when Capullo first tweeted that he was doing his last story ever and everyone was freaking out about it. So good

  • @ChristopherZubin
    @ChristopherZubin 2 роки тому +8

    I'm reminded of The Animation Show whenever the transition from Endgame to Superheavy comes up
    "I hope we all learned a little something about the fascinating world of Batman today, and can now think about it a little differently, a Batman comic isn't just a random series of mindless, self-indulgent, violent sequential images, meant only to be enjoyed by young children , but is a serious art medium. All into which the artist is---ROBOTS!"

  • @danieladams5132
    @danieladams5132 2 роки тому +7

    Yesss please do Last Knight on Earth. It’s wild hahah
    Probably my favorite scene in Snyder’s run is when amnesiac Bruce and Joker are sitting on the bench together talking.

  • @shadowanderson2004
    @shadowanderson2004 2 роки тому +3

    At least his name isn’t Jo Ker. Also Huntress is in the Grayson book.

  • @WhelmedButReady
    @WhelmedButReady 2 роки тому +57

    YES FINALLY!!!! I've waited years to see this covered on Back Issues. Snyder's run was far superior to King's and yet his arcs were covered more on the couch I assume cause it's so much easier to make fun of. But this is just pure quality. Not saying it's perfect, but it was so dang epic and fun.

  • @halfmettlealchemist8076
    @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +5

    The best part is this comic, beat for beat, is the exact plot of the Lego Batman Movie and I feel like I’m the only person who has realized this

  • @andrepaul3483
    @andrepaul3483 2 роки тому +5

    I ADORE this story. Easily my favourite Batman vs Joker story.

  • @DanV900
    @DanV900 2 роки тому +7

    In regards to the Lark and Signal names, 5 years ago I said on Twitter in a response that Signal wasn’t a good name. Scott Snyder then sent me a DM saying “Lark wouldn’t carry it’s (wrong its Scott!) own book imo. I like Signal! :)” Of course the Signal to this day doesn’t carry a book. I said Bluebird worked as a name and there’s a butterfly called the Golden Birdwing where there’s a cool name somewhere in there. He didn’t respond back, but it was cool that he sent me a DM!

  • @JoshMunroe
    @JoshMunroe Рік тому +5

    Love the spiritual follow-up to an episode you did... over eight years ago? That episode inspired me to collect the entirety of the Snyder/Capullo run, with this story being the only hardcover volume among the other trades. Can't have a trade run without one entry standing out!

  • @Iceleopard45
    @Iceleopard45 2 роки тому +17

    This reminds me a lot of a Batman book I read once where a member of the court of owls from around 1-2 hundred years in gothams past had perfected a serum that his family had been working on that allowed him to see the future and when he sees the future he sees the history of Batman fighting his rogues and as a screw you to the rest of the court he buried the formula with his love and he made statues surrounding Gotham that could lead people to her grave and when Batman finds these statues he realizes that they are all dressed/look like members of his rogue gallery ivy,two face,bane,joker etc. and that was how Batman realized oh if the court gets this we’re screwed.

    • @johnskinner9697
      @johnskinner9697 2 роки тому +2

      please tell me what book this is ive never heard of that, please!

    • @Iceleopard45
      @Iceleopard45 2 роки тому +4

      @@johnskinner9697 it is called court of owls by Greg cox

  • @sangera
    @sangera 2 роки тому +74

    I love how Sal described Death of the Family and Endgame as a comedy and a tragedy. Because of how modern language works, you think comedy as something funny and tragedy as something terrible. What I learned in high school was that comedies were simply stories that had a happy ending and tragedies were ones that had a bad ending. I read Macbeth in my senior year, which is a tragedy, but it can be viewed as a comedy if you shifted the focus on Macduff or Malcolm. My peers simply didn't understand that a comedy doesn't have to be funny, and that bothered me when I was analyzing the play. Death of the Family is not a funny book but it has a happy ending for Bruce and his family; and is a comedy. Endgame is a tragedy as the Bruce and the Joker end in a worse spot than when they started.

    • @Spurs319
      @Spurs319 2 роки тому +1

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t death of the family end with the family estranged & Bruce being isolated/alone again? I’m trying to connect the dots but I’m not seeing anyone with a happy ending in death of the family

    • @self-satisfiedsmirk5544
      @self-satisfiedsmirk5544 2 роки тому +1

      @@Spurs319 Well, that really depends on which definition you're going with; Aristotle respectively explained/defined comedies and tragedies as being stories that focus on the human condition and human interaction, delving into the errors and mistakes of the characters, and stories that focus on grander or more "important" themes, typically utilizing more archetypal characters to drive the narrative. A tragedy or a comedy don't need to necessarily have a grim or happy ending under this interpretation.
      Brady White was referring to the Shakespearean interpretation of the terms.

  • @randypeace6691
    @randypeace6691 2 роки тому +4

    Would love to see Super Heavy

  • @Newarksfinest05
    @Newarksfinest05 2 роки тому +2

    52:30 lol the owls

  • @thomasoldford4987
    @thomasoldford4987 Рік тому +2

    “I will see this city burn to the ground before I ever ask Huntress for a hand.” Goddamn thats so funny

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 2 роки тому +9

    great job guys on this great episode of back issues on batman endgame.

  • @MWhaleK
    @MWhaleK 2 роки тому +2

    To me Bluebird will always be Sally Avril and a Spider man character.

  • @thederpiestofderps
    @thederpiestofderps 2 роки тому +17

    I'm really hoping we get the Tiffany episode on Superheavy cause as much as DCU was a disaster, Superheavy was cool as hell

  • @Smeagolthevile
    @Smeagolthevile 2 роки тому +23

    This always bugs the shit out of me. If Superman 'wasn't holding back' he would have thrown bruce into the sun with a single throw, or straight up punched the head off of both the robot and bruce with a single punch. If superman is trying to kill Batman, no amoutn of kryptonite or red solar radiation is going to weaken him that much in the time it would take him to just dismantle bruce.

    • @pay7232
      @pay7232 2 роки тому +10

      I’m one of the people that really dislikes this arc and doesn’t understand the praise it gets. There are to many things that happen off panel that gets told to us that we never get to see, and it bugs me. How did Joker who is basically a human like Batman poison the whole league which consists of meta-humans? How did he pull off taking over the city that quickly? There is way too much telling and not enough showing in this arc for me. Also the whole Gotham villains coming together to stop Joker comes off as lame and unearned. Nowhere in the run was it shown how the villains feel about Joker. In past Batman stories most of the villains avoid him because he is crazy or just don’t care what he is up to. Feel the villains would be for Joker destroying everything so they can pick up the pieces. This arc needed more issues or to be rethought and focused more🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @Smeagolthevile
      @Smeagolthevile 2 роки тому +4

      That really confuses me too, like joker can’t beat Batman, but he can consistently just off panel take down the entire justice league?? I can see someone like cyborg or green arrow, but Superman?

    • @pay7232
      @pay7232 2 роки тому +1

      @@Smeagolthevile I saw in a Reddit post or maybe it was in the CBR forums before they were wiped in 2014 a post on endgame poking the holes you’re talking about. In the post they said Cyborg has cyborg parts in him that would fight the toxin off, Flash’s immune system is so fast it would kill Jokers toxin, Superman would be able to fight off the toxin along with Wonder Woman. Most people commented that the only way they could see Joker taking down the league is if it was revealed Lex was the big bad behind everything. Joker is the ultimate comic villain but I just can’t see him going toe to toe with many meta-humans.

    • @101Mant
      @101Mant 2 роки тому

      Let's not forget Flash is so fast Batman wouldn't have time to say anything. The only way it makes any sense if they are fighting it and holding back.
      The whole Batman can beat anyone thing is so lame and tired and the writers aren't the geniuses the character is supposed to be so it just comes across as bad writing.
      It undermines Batman rather than making him better. To me all the aliens and Justice League and cosmic stuff Batman gets put in takes away from the vigilante who could be killed at any time by one lucky shot from a nobody. They are barely the same character and I never enjoy it when overpowered version shows up in the actual Batman books, it cheapens everything else.

    • @critical_thinker0668
      @critical_thinker0668 Рік тому

      My guess is Joker didn't want Batman dead, but I'm not sure how exactly he programmed that into Superman or something.

  • @ComicsLamar
    @ComicsLamar 2 роки тому +5

    I just love how the book opens with ‘How to defeat the Justice League 101’.

  • @g-mandacomicfan350
    @g-mandacomicfan350 2 роки тому +7

    Oh man, I've been waiting for this episode! An hour and a half long no less!

  • @kman1084
    @kman1084 10 місяців тому

    That moment with Gordon looking through the old pics, he and the reader starting to realize that the Joker is something more than human, and then he’s under the bed….fucking chills.

  • @donovanstewart698
    @donovanstewart698 2 роки тому +18

    Just finished re-reading the Snyder capullo run the other day, and I got to say it kinda burnt me out on the joker. If you just look at the big event style storylines, half of them heavily feature the joker (if you count red hood in zero year or last knight on earth), which made me really wish we got to see more of Batman’s rogues gallery. I would have adored to see their take on scarecrow or two-face, who both would’ve been awesome to see with the horror inspired tone of the art and writing.

    • @DanV900
      @DanV900 2 роки тому +3

      Snyder saying as Metal was happening that he could do a Scarecrow story, but isn’t interested was incredibly disappointing. I really liked All Star Batman which was a Two-Face story with Romita Jr.’s best art since the JMS run. He is finally good again in the current Spider-Man run. The Last Knight on Earth with the final issue stinks and Snyder overused Joker.

    • @mikhaelgribkov4117
      @mikhaelgribkov4117 2 роки тому +1

      @@DanV900 I think Romita Jr.’s art is always good, but needs right colorist to not screw it up.

    • @DanV900
      @DanV900 2 роки тому +1

      @@mikhaelgribkov4117 His Superman comic art was not great where his inker does matter a lot, but that was not up to his standards.

    • @donovanstewart698
      @donovanstewart698 2 роки тому +5

      @@DanV900 it’s kinda sad that the writing in last knight on earth kinda sucks, because I think it probably has some of Capullo’s best art on Batman. Aside from Omega, who is just generic evil Batman number 108, Batman in a strait jacket carrying the jokers head in a lamp looks really cool, and the spider-scarecrow riding around on a zombified banes back is pretty creepy. Though all of that is pretty much ditched by the third issue. But I guess it fulfilled it purpose, which is make me kinda want the McFarlane figures

    • @fynnthefox9078
      @fynnthefox9078 2 роки тому +4

      As a Joker fan, I'm also sad that they just keep shoving Joker down our throats. While I love the Joker, I'd rather see stories with Penguin or Scarecrow, or hell, even the Ventriloquist! Where's Arnold at, DC?

  • @ChristopherZubin
    @ChristopherZubin 2 роки тому +29

    As much as I enjoyed this story, it does a few things I'd consider taboo in a Batman comic, but because it's a grand finale, and a send off for the team I can give it a pass.
    I don't think Scott Snyder needed to keep one-upping himself, it got pretty out of hand, but right here it still hasn't jumped the dragon.

    • @halfmettlealchemist8076
      @halfmettlealchemist8076 2 роки тому +8

      I think this story falls into the category of “Last Batman Stories”; i.e., story arcs that could hypothetically be the final story ever made with that character, and I’d still be satisfied with how it ended. With that in mind, I like that Snyder just went, “fuck it” with this story and just broke all the rules.

    • @xanderreimers4445
      @xanderreimers4445 2 роки тому +8

      Jumped the dragon is the perfect phrase to describe Snyder Batman run post metal

    • @DanV900
      @DanV900 2 роки тому +1

      @@xanderreimers4445 That wasn’t post-Metal, that was during Metal lol.

    • @xanderreimers4445
      @xanderreimers4445 2 роки тому +1

      @@DanV900 Ik, I meant including and after

  • @batfreeze56
    @batfreeze56 2 роки тому +2

    Over seven years ago, I requested this episode. It's funny to see it finally on the couch, after all this time.

  • @Martin_TheCollector
    @Martin_TheCollector 2 роки тому +52

    No offense to Scott, but I straight up miss these silly yet very comprehensive stories. I haven't had much enjoyment reading most of his DC work ever since Rebirth began. Maybe big epic events just ain't his thing. Not everyone can manage to do what Busiek, Morrison, Johns, Hickman, or several others can. It's perfectly understandable.

  • @TheClitCommander530
    @TheClitCommander530 2 роки тому +4

    I know New52 gets poo poo'd on sometimes but it'll always be special to me because that was my jumping on point for comics.

  • @chrisdaily2077
    @chrisdaily2077 2 роки тому +12

    This book has more Bat Godding than Morrison could have ever seen in a mushroom trip.

  • @benhramiak8781
    @benhramiak8781 2 роки тому +1

    I like the eric border idea tbh. Cos joker's smart enough to think of it and use it to spy on batman

  • @boredcommenter67
    @boredcommenter67 2 роки тому +1

    Listening to this I cant help but think a reference to batman cult's cult leader as the potential immortal would have interesting.

  • @Codeman1930
    @Codeman1930 2 роки тому +4

    I saw the notification and clicked automatically. Comicpop Hype!

  • @Sluggwurth
    @Sluggwurth 2 роки тому +3

    Finally a new Back Issues I’ve actually read the source material! This new 52 Batman run is what got me into comics back right before Rebirth. Great work as always guys!

  • @Nastyn1nja808
    @Nastyn1nja808 2 роки тому +1

    "They attach the hand when Batman Returns" captions have it capital for Returns lol. Though honestly if I said that line it would be capital as well lol

  • @benreilly4347
    @benreilly4347 6 місяців тому

    The fight between Batman and Joker at the end near the Pit is just the perfect culmination of their weird twisted relationship

    • @burgerking8475
      @burgerking8475 6 місяців тому

      I always hated how badly Batman fights in Snyder’s run. Batman is supposed to be the best fighter and in that fight he just swings wildly at Joker

  • @Frenchy_47
    @Frenchy_47 2 роки тому +1

    Have I entered a new reality? Because for some reason I can remember you guys doing Last Knight on Earth.

  • @Diana-gw6cu
    @Diana-gw6cu 6 місяців тому

    Superheavy goes fucking CRAZY

  • @zach1425
    @zach1425 Рік тому +1

    This Batman attack on Titan crossover go hard.

  • @steviemacc2745
    @steviemacc2745 2 роки тому +1

    This story.. was excellent. But the way you guys told it was even better💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

  • @adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749
    @adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749 2 роки тому +2

    I guess it’s better being called Bluebird rather than Bluetit if we go with bird names

  • @Sicod79
    @Sicod79 2 роки тому +2

    ...So this Joker character. He he seems like he has legs. Probably shouldn't kill him off in his first appearance. That would be a real Lex Luthor move.

  • @jokerboy4284
    @jokerboy4284 Рік тому +1

    I had the privilege of meeting Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo at motor city comic con. I asked mr Snyder if his intention in death of the family was that the joker did make it into the bat cave. While he said it kind of ruins the fun knowing if he did or didn’t, he confirmed that his intention was that yes the joker had been in the cave to leave the card for batman.

  • @TheRealJameson505
    @TheRealJameson505 2 роки тому +1

    Hoot hoot makes it's reappearance! I love it and it made my day!

  • @blt987
    @blt987 Рік тому +1

    I think this story is awesome and I think this joker is the most menacing version of the joker

  • @samh.5821
    @samh.5821 2 роки тому +3

    Let's go, one of the first Batman comics I ever read lol

  • @arogen01
    @arogen01 Місяць тому

    Can't wait for the super heavy arc. That was surprisingly neat

  • @AnarchicArachnid
    @AnarchicArachnid 2 роки тому +5

    Due to the narrative fake out regarding Joker in this story I thought this would be a Tiffany episode because i love that idea and was hoping they'd adopt it for three jokers when they announced that book

    • @AnarchicArachnid
      @AnarchicArachnid 2 роки тому +1

      *At the joker identity thing with no one caring* haha that didn't age well at all.

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  2 роки тому +4

      No it didn't. Nobody cares.

    • @AnarchicArachnid
      @AnarchicArachnid 2 роки тому +2

      @@comicpop I know no one cares but it's funny this episode dropped exactly the week they decided to go "Hey JOKERS NAME IS X" like anyone would care

    • @punkxblaze
      @punkxblaze 2 роки тому +2

      Jesus. I didn't know about that, so I went to go read FB#5 after reading these comments. Geoff Johns needs to calm the fuck down trying to give Joker a solid identity. 3 Jokers was almost a bridge too far as it is.

  • @lastofthekanoonoos5822
    @lastofthekanoonoos5822 Рік тому +1

    This comic is why the statement "Batman dies in Endgame" really isn't a joke spoiler.

  • @DanV900
    @DanV900 2 роки тому +1

    Snyder said after the issue where Alfred gets his hand chopped off that Endgame was supposed to be his final Batman story with Capullo. It was also supposed to be the last time he would use Joker when writing Batman, but he could change his mind later. Then he said when the Detective Comics #27 anniversary issue came out that Batman Year 200 as a clear homage to Paul Pope’s awesome Batman Year 100 was the death of his Batman with the end of the story. Then he did Last Knight on Earth with the real final story of his Batman run with Capullo.

    • @comicpop
      @comicpop  2 роки тому +1

      So what we said.

  • @jabezcreed
    @jabezcreed 2 роки тому

    Thank you! Such a fun run all along the way!

  • @Depthcharge2030
    @Depthcharge2030 2 роки тому +3

    I really felt like this could've been a good place for Snyder and Capullo run to end, they'd just wrapped Zero Year and the year long Batman Eternal series just ended too. I wouldn't have been mad if it was cause I did generally enjoy it.

  • @ninja1man4u
    @ninja1man4u 2 роки тому +4

    YESS!! No joke I really love this volume of synders run and even if it's all popcorn spectacle and one upping it's in my opinion better than death of the family! Let's go!!!

  • @mr.master2017
    @mr.master2017 2 роки тому

    The first part of this story was the first comic I ever picked up. Awesome to see you guys doing this story!

  • @architeuthis3476
    @architeuthis3476 2 роки тому +1

    I'm looking forward to seeing Ben & Ethan's reaction to _Superheavy_

  • @SpiralSine6
    @SpiralSine6 2 роки тому

    37:18
    Jim he broke into your house, he’s open season at this point man

  • @comicpop
    @comicpop  2 роки тому +6

    Buy Batman: Endgame right now! amzn.to/3REdu2u

  • @Captain8ball
    @Captain8ball 2 роки тому +1

    34:20 A hospital With a dark past in Gotham? Sounds like every other place in Gotham. What has gotten right

  • @sarakorch.2890
    @sarakorch.2890 Рік тому

    I won’t lie I actually love when the Joker is portrayed as something eldritch and unexplainable? It’s a departure from the more detective focused narratives but god the scenes where they look through old photographs or faded, inkwell written hospital records are so goddamn chilling and good

  • @jacobramos3473
    @jacobramos3473 Рік тому

    Joker being there for all the years before reminds me of IT

  • @vitanpatel2061
    @vitanpatel2061 2 роки тому +1

    I feel when certain writers try to do the biggest thing, it doesn't work

  • @thecocomastiux3655
    @thecocomastiux3655 2 роки тому +4

    One of my favorite things about Endgame are the back up stories. I love the Joker theories. Other than that and the amazing art (specially those covers, 40 in particular), I think this story was kind of meh. Specially compared to Death of the Family which is amazing

  • @extremely_mediocre6562
    @extremely_mediocre6562 2 роки тому +1

    Would love to see you guys cover Superheavy!

  • @QueerComics1994
    @QueerComics1994 2 роки тому +2

    Now that I think of it, Lark is a fantastic name for Duke. Because not only is it a bird obviously, but another definition for Lark is something mischievous done for fun, and that ties in to Dukes origin of his parents being gassed by the Joker.

  • @WhatIsItAboutThem
    @WhatIsItAboutThem 2 роки тому +2

    ITS MY FAVORITE BOOOOIS
    (Tiffany is included in spirit 😇)

  • @bZman
    @bZman 2 роки тому +1

    You GOTTA do superheavy! Give us the Batbunny suit!

  • @spencerchun313
    @spencerchun313 2 роки тому

    This definitely has been the best episode in a while. I love this show so much

  • @alejandrogonzalez00
    @alejandrogonzalez00 2 роки тому +1

    42:11 I think Tim Seely and Tom King both did that book and yea it’s great the omnibus is getting reprinted this November and I can’t wait to get it
    43:08 plus yea one of Kings first books he did at Vertigo was Sheriff of Babylon where he based that series off of his actual experiences in the CIA which I think was a pretty awesomely great fact

  • @MrDudoma
    @MrDudoma 2 роки тому

    Reading it in single issues for the first time... every cliffhanger was awesome and I wanted more.

  • @Odyssey1997
    @Odyssey1997 2 роки тому +2

    Kind of funny that you guys did this back issue of Batman endgame. Because recently I was re-reading the Snyder and Capullo New 52 Batman run. And the moment I got to the vlo of Batman endgame you guys came out with this episode I kind of thought that was funny. But I want your opinion on a 2022 mini series of sword of Azrael.

  • @KenByrneNL
    @KenByrneNL 2 роки тому +1

    Always a fun time!!

  • @pptemplar5840
    @pptemplar5840 2 роки тому +3

    I think Blue Bird is the member of the "bat family" that I care the least for, not the one I have the most visceral hatred for, just the most nothing character I can really think of when I think of bats, I just don't remember ever being remotely interested or invested in her.

  • @sheeshking2584
    @sheeshking2584 2 роки тому +1

    I hope we get more nightwing comics for back issue