The Terraplane was a lower cost car to meet depression era economics as Hudson themselves were competing higher up in the market. It was quite popular over it production run given the times and even in six cylinder form gave the Ford V8 a run for its money and in its later straight 8 form set quite a few stock car records. A strange name for a car but it came from this marketing slogan that tapped into all the records being broken in the air, on the water and on the race tracks. “On the sea that’s aquaplaning, in the air that’s aeroplaning, but on the land, in the traffic, on the hills, hot diggity dog, that’s Terraplaning!” The car had some very unique features given its lower cost market place. The gear selector was electric over vacuum with the little gear lever being attached to the steering column. it was developed by Bendix and used on a few other cars. The gear you wanted was pre selected by the "electric hand" on the column and when you pressed the clutch the gearchange happened. Your gearbox is missing all of the selector system and clutch control. Three speed plus reverse. first and second via the counter shaft and third is direct drive through the mainshaft.
Terraplane rhymes with aeroplane. May have been part of the 'marketing' ploy of the day?~ Torque for the taking with that long stroke. Probably reasonably fuel efficient, considering how long each cylinder charge has to combust before the exhaust valve opens! Great find! and kudos for saving such a rare old piece of automotive history! Cheers from across the ditch!
the electric hand was an option, was not standard. The straight 8 was never used in Stock car racing. Only the 308 Inline 6 was used in stock car racing. The Terraplane nameplate was Started in 32' dropped by 38'. Terraplane had thinner and lighter frames which made them lighter then their Hudson counterparts.
My Dad had a 37 Hudson straight 8, almost exactly the same as that. I was 15 at the time, done a big-end so we parked the car over an old mineshaft ( Central West Queensland Australia Gemfields) the hole was about 2 foot deep, I crawled under, drained the oil and dropped the pan. Unbeknown to me there was a second pan which doesn't drain ! Oh what a mess, I had nowhere to move in such a confined space. First thing we found was that it was an oil-filled clutch after we burned out the throw-out bearing. Correct oil is Hudsonite, Singer sewing machine oil is a good alternative. you will find the engine number below the water manifold on the left side. Dad had a piece of babbit metal left over from a chev job and we re-metaled the big-end.
One great thing about Hudson engines is the Chrome-alloy engine block. It was so hard that you can easily ruin your boring bar trying to re-bore it. They don't need valve seat inserts for the same reason.
The disadvantages of Flatheads, is the gas flow, the advantages are reduced number of moving parts that can break. Flatheads go real well with turbos,..... Add direct stratified injection through the top of the head, will clean up it's emissions and take the fuel out of the inlet, meaning more space in the port for air molecules, and more fuel in the injection, for more power.
Olsons Gaskets in Port Orchard Washington has complete gasket sets for those and near all other engines to 1900 for all applications. I have a 32 Essex Super 6 car, your base engine looks quite like it mine. Also have 31 Hudson 8 75K miles stock bores still excellent condition, apparently very high nickel alloy blocks. Both are roller lifters (Essex is Hudson). I figure those engines would have done 200K+ miles given todays oil, proper oil filter and proper oil changes. Both engines the stroke is near double the bore which is why they were good drivers. Other than couple small floor panels no wood in the bodies unlike most other same era cars. When I get old engines first thing I do is pressure wash them then keep the fasteners and pistons wet with penetrant for couple weeks. I do not turn cranks until I clean the bores to save the rings, near always a rust layer in the bores. I updated the essex with a Ford 300 6 cause the Essex 6 is too slow for todays traffic. My wife drives the stock Hudson no problem after I changed the bad carb to a weber. The newest vehicle I drive is 1959 for good reason (mostly keeps me sane).
In my shop yes, in my country no, total hell scape which is why I noted 'keeps me sane'. Sure do hope you folks are not under this left insanity. If you can find one grab a 59 thunderbird with 3 speed overdrive. My favorite cruiser by far.@@unclebrentsshed4253
The power dome option was a 106 HP version of the Terraplane engine. It was a 3 speed transmission and 4:11 rear ratio. I'm putting one of those power trains in a '27 model T for vintage flathead racing.
I remember my older brother had a Terraplane as a paddock bomb back in the 1960’s and where I honed my driving skills in it as a 12 year old around the bush tracks and it still sticks with me to this day where all my brothers mates used to say how much low end power the power dome engine had and There was a particular very steep almost dangerous dirt slope we used to call the sandhill even though it was dirt and if any of our cars could make it to the top only in dry weather here in Melbourne I may add, it was sort of like a badge of honour and it was agreed that you had a good car! As the terraplane had so much bottom end torque with its long stroke the thing just cruised up it! These were the days when we could buy unregistered trade ins from police car car yards around Bell Street, Preston like FX and FJ Holdens, old sidewacker Ford Customlines to pommie shit for as little as twenty to thirty bucks and thrash the S… out of them until we broke axles, diffs, gearboxes or blew the donks up or rolled them over, we never had sny super serious injuries thank god but man what fun we had for our money every weekend! You can’t do that these days! Good luck with getting the grouse old engine going again 👍
Yes a few mates and I bought a 1953 Black Customline anniversary model sedan from the Preston car yard just around the corner from Bell St in Elizabeth St for $10. Must have been in the early 1970s, we paid $10. It was stuck in top gear and unregistered. Not sure how we got it home to nearby Eaglemont where we parked it in a back lane out the back of a mates parents place. Moving on 50 years the car yard is still there as is the back lane. Registered FX/FJ Holdens in those days started at about $29. Of course at this stage they weren’t much more than 15 years old. But the ones in this yard must have been carefully selected as they’d all had hard lives, rusted floors, etc.
@@YSA920 Geez that’s coincidental, I too bought a 53 anniversary model from a pokey little car yard in Bell street just west of the railway crossing before St.Georges Rd in about 1969, a green one and it was in pretty good nick with a really good sidewacker V8 in it, I remember the badge on the dash denoting the anniversary model, I think I paid about around $70 for it, It was too good to bash around the paddocks around the Moonee ponds creek area west of Glenroy so me and my mates used to go for drives in at night, mind you we didn’t have a licence and the car was unregistered but we never got caught and had a great time! Probably couldn’t get away with that behaviour nowadays!
@@jamesgovett3225 oh to have those Customlines back. Digressing further on the Calder Highway on the way to Woodend there used to be a bargain car yard there, possibly the same location as dealt Morgans in later years. We took an OHV 272 Customline for a test drive from there, they were not that quick but back in the day you could wind them out in 2nd (3 on the tree). This one blew a welshplug during the test drive, I don’t remember what the car yard guy said, unless we just parked it and handed back the keys? From memory $200 or less.
Great video! The first car that I “drove” was a Terraplane, sitting on dads lap while I steered, aged about 4 in 1959. (NSW). When I was older I was fascinated by the words Terraplane and Power Dome cast into the cylinder head. The engine had incredible torque, thanks to that 5 inch stroke, and dad would often boast that he could start off from stationary in third gear.
The Terraplane pickup was and is pretty rare, and it was a Hudson Terraplane version of competitor Studebaker's Coupe Express, which could be considered to be what the Australians refer to as a Ute, as the doors forward of the vehicle was the same as used on a car but had a pickup cab panel behind the doors and had a truck bed behind the cab. There was also a Hudson branded version. All are quite rare today.
A Terraplane motor in a Valiant. The Terraplane was made by Hudson. Babbited rods with shims. They had a strange oil supply looks like some combination of splash and pressure lubrication. I worked for my brother in law's garage one year and they still had cans of Hudsonite clutch juice on the shelf.
The box will be a 3 speed. The biggest gear on the main shaft is first, the medium gear is second. Third is just connecting the input shaft to the main shaft. The idler gears are reverse.
Outstanding video and find. Good on you pal, save that old dog. Too bad we can't update them with oil gallies and pressure, modern filter and caps and bearing. But getting back to life as is will be a very good then. I am hoping to see Part 2 soon. Dennis in Virginia, USA
You guys are true optimists! As she came apart, I kept thinking "Briggs on steroids", as a factory stroker. My favorite parts are the clutch & the preheater intake manifold, like an old Ford tractor! Subscribed, so I can hear it run again!
...From Wikipedia: "The Terraplane was a car brand and model built by the Hudson Motor Car Company of Detroit, Michigan, between 1932 and 1938. In its maiden year, the car was branded as the Essex-Terraplane; in 1934 the car became simply the Terraplane. They were inexpensive, yet powerful vehicles that were used in both town and country. The Terraplane name was used for both cars and trucks.".... Terra..(Earth) plane.... My dad owned one back in the 50's.... A very reliable car.
@@unclebrentsshed4253 Yes its a Great idea for a Channel Mate, Real Aussie Guys Rebuilding Real Engines, Now you Just Need to Chuck a Couple of Beers down When she's Rebuilt, & you start her up Mate. & Maybe Throw a Barbie to Celebrate & You Couldn't get a More Aussie Car Rebuild Channel than that Hey. 😀
I worked at a trannie shop/parts distribution warehouse hub. We repaired train trannies. Made custom monster truck transmissions as well as US passenger stuff. We also installed several hundreds of 6 to 12 plate wet pack clutches in UPS vans. That looks like a very old version of the UPS clutches. BTW In 1983 A full clutch pack with pressure plate, clutch pack etc. ran north of $7,000.00... For the "cheap" ones. Never had one come back from wear.
Hudson's were amazing, even in their lower priced cars - the Terraplane which was promoted by Amelia Earhart and was a fairly popular car in its time. The wet cork clutch was surprisingly smooth and reliable.I wasn't aware of the timing gear being bakelite and am amazed at the condition of it for its age. I also wasn't aware of it having been exported but am not an expert on these cars so had never even thought about it. The Terraplane was dropped from the Hudson lineup before WWII, and Hudson merged with Nash-Kelvinater (Rambler) in the early 1950's which formed American Motors Corporation (AMC) and the Hudson name was dropped a few years later along with the Nash name, but the Rambler name continued to the late 1960's. AMC by then had bought out Kaiser-Jeep and it was later bought out by Chrysler Corporation, so in a sense, I guess a person could say that in a way Hudson/Terraplane has descendants still being produced today.
@@unclebrentsshed4253thank you. You are very welcome, but you are overrating my small contribution. I don't think I would say what I gave is great information as it is information which can be easily found and verified. Keep up the great videos and the knowledge you have been sharing as what you are doing is appreciated by many and I am grateful that I found your videos.
Hudson products were quite popular in export markets around the world, in the 1930s 17.9% of production was exported. I think the small bore, long stroke, small displacement six cylinder engine had something to do with it as it made for lower license fees in many English and Commonwealth countries. It was about 21 taxable HP not bad for a big, roomy, six cylinder sedan.
First car when I was 12 years old a 47 Hudson, super six, wet cork clutch drove her pedal to the metal around our acreage for three years before blowing the head gasket, 45 mph in first gear once too often. Then a neighbour moved in they had a Hudson Hornet six cylinder with multiple carbs. Hudson engineers were ahead of the other manufactures.
Thank you for this video! Yes subbed! So cool to see you guys work on that and find out what is inside! I got some flatties myself, but... just mini bikes and mowers. Still fun to play around with and see if I can make em run again. Cheers from the States (Chicagoland)
Gearbox is a 3 speed with high gear being direct drive (no gears). So you have gears for low and second, and a different set for reverse. Hudson used its own design of oil bath clutch from 1909 until the mid 1950s. Very smooth and effective. Had no trouble even with the 170HP Twin H Power engine. You can reline the clutch plate with bottle corks and cut them to the right thickness with a sharp knife. Pro tip, push half the corks thru from one side, half from the other and they can't fall out. Fill the clutch housing with 6 oz of automatic transmission fluid, top up or change at every oil change.
Love ❤️ the idea of the area. 👍 So much adjustment on the bearing. Wish we had today. The pain great idea. I'm shore this motor has alot of hrs on it. Time war's. Today engine be the same. I think not. Hehe. Thank you mate. 😊
these terraplane engines were real good speedboat motors ,especially if they were balanced and ported you could run salt water straight into them for cooling so no heat exchanger torquey as hell for pulling skiers out of the water, easy to work on and modify to up horsepower
Get a couple guys to help. Make new timing gears. A person who can cast new gear blanks. Possibly iron. With a brass cam gear, or a aluminum cam gear. With a brass gear pressed on. And a iron crank gear. Get the blanks milled from foam. And do lost foam casting. Use s mill to do a final cut for the gear teeth and mounting surface . The bearings will probably just need cleaning. I would possibly work on a crank driven oil pump. With remote oil filter. Snd stleast spray oil on the cam, cylinders and other parts use the stock ports to plumb it in. And mount the nozzles to the dipper pan. Maybe try pressuring the main bearings atleast. Have nozzles spray 30-40 psi oil into the rods dippers after they leave the oil dip tray. The pressure along with the rods motion it should be similar to getting 100psi oil for a fraction of s second. If it didn't get enough while dipping. The nozzle should get it done. That engine should make a fair amount of TQ. Maybe 80-100 HP , if its a good day. A 5" stroke, probably 5:1 compression, if that is pushed to 8:1 and possibly a cam ground for it. Port the ports and manifolds it will possibly make 130hp get the compression up bit and add a turbo, find a model A hot rod to put it in. Adapt a t-5 , 5 speed transmission to it. Maybe an automatic. Definitely would be different!!
A mate had a Hudson Terraplane, (late 30s car I think), back in the 80s. Took it out to Mallala with his Group N EH, and he took it for a couple of laps between races. Yeah, that's not so bad, it'll run again. Poured bearings, the old 100E Prefects had the same.
My father had a '36'in high school in '41' faster than fast he said. The biggest issue only cable operated rear brakes which needed adjusted quite often to keep them working right.
Ya see you need to lay that Hudson over then it might fit. Clem Smith [owner Mallala Race track] raced a Terraplane Special at Rowley Pk in the 60s,, a front running car. He had a collection of Hudsons auctioned off after he died. All runners. Bizare?? No just old. Many sidevalve engines, even up to the 60s with Dodge sidevalves the basic engine in Mopar products. Replaced by the slant 6. 3 speed gearbox
yes they had a cork clutch and were filled with an item called Hudsonite ,in their day were a rippa .made great racing engine when hotted up,owned a 35 coupe with a canvas hood and dicky seat ,and a 36sedan with a crank handle a mile long,could fit an early holden carb for better fuel consumption .
Interesting, never heard of a Terraplane cars here in the US, we had plenty of Hudson though. Terra means earth, plane means flat plane so Terraplane means Earth Plane, or Flat Earth Plane Car! Very cool old flat head, it would be neat to see it run, God Bless.
Cheers man, can’t wait to hear it run again myself, my mate owns the engine and is basically funding the project . I’m just taking the glory by making a few videos from it lol Piston wise it’s going to be expensive , my mate just bought a Honda piston on eBay to see if it’ll work lol 👌🏽
ah yeah i can imagine the cost! i guess maybe search for a forum to see if anyone else has found replacement parts that are like for like? hopefully you can find something mate @@unclebrentsshed4253
I was surprised when I stumbled across this video as I hadn't realized that the Terraplane was exported, even though I should have realized it since Hudson's were exported and Hudson made the Terraplane. I glanced to see what your other videos are and decided to subscribe. I'm not sure if you are an Aussie or a Kiwi but know that you are one or the other and think the cars from over there are pretty cool and unique compared to what we have here in the USA....other than being driven from the wrong side of the car on the wrong side of the road...lol.😁... Thank you for posting this very interesting and informative video. I'm looking forward to seeing it run again and to see what you do with it once it's done.
@@unclebrentsshed4253 I'm from Ely, Minnesota --- Land of 10,000 lakes..(chosen because it sounded better than the land of 11,642 lakes)...lol. I live about 15 miles from the Canadian Border due north of the western tip of Lake Superior (largest of the Great Lakes at 31,700 square miles)... Yup... It's BIG...lol.
You have to be kidding me! Origin of the Deadmans Hand in cards, Wild Bill Hickok shot in the back of his head. Deadwood is probably the most famous old west town in the U.S.A. and home to one of the oldest gold mines now a science lab. HOMESTAKE Sturgis motorcycle rally just 15 miles down the road. The tv series "Deadwood" based on the town and its sheriff . @@unclebrentsshed4253
Just saw your video today , and wanted to share some unfortunate news . Here in Southern California in San Diego there used to be an automotive parts store called “ E&W auto parts” that at one time had damn near every Damn engine related part under its roof , for All makes & models of American made cars ( and some imports) going back almost 100 years or more , and Run by the same family for generations ( I’m 63-1/2 , and can remember going in as a young lad in the 1960’s with my Dad to get some Model T Ford parts) and the counter personnel knew where everything was as they had incredible stock on hand . Unfortunately they went “ Belly up “ just about the beginning of Covid Episode here , and have closed doors permanently, and liquidated all stock ( I saw an awful lot going into Scrap dumpsters amidst tears from the owners & a few of us in attendance who happened to be there the final day they closed) . If only you had found & decided on this rebuild about 5 years earlier….. 😕. Anyway I found this video interesting as I personally have heard of those old Chrysler’s , but have never seen one in the flesh. Good luck on your project, and will be curious to see how it all turns out . 😎👍
You've probably opened the oil pump by now .... My money says it's a vane type pump. Had an Allis Chalmers tractor once, and it had a vane type oil pump that was directly driven by the rear of the camshaft. Camshaft was hollow and carried oil forward to its bearings. Seems like that was oil from the relief valve. Lots of weird stuff going on back then!
THANKS, great vid! Woulda walked away after the plugs, but it was very surprising that the bores were pretty good. Surprisingly small/narrow space between the bores. Hard to believe that it could get enough oil splash to not half destroy it self on startup, the cam is the only thing getting a direct feed probably, everything else seems like dumb luck to get lubed. There's gotta be something for the lifters/tappets & valve guides. Thanks again.
their is no direct oiling for the valves. The engine creates an oil mist, by design, that lubricates everything that is not splasher oiled or direct oiled.
Hudson's designer was very strong on splash lubrication. They published a list of 10 reasons it was superior. I only remember 2 of them 1) As soon as the engine turns over once, all the bearings get oil. With a pressure system it can take half a minute or a minute to build up pressure especially in cold weather. As most wear takes place with a cold, unlubricated engine the splash system is better 2) If you burn out a rod bearing it doesn't affect any other bearing. With a pressure system if one bearing goes out all the pressure leaks away and it's goodbye to the other bearings. With the splash system you replace the 1 bad rod and you are good to go.
I seen a clutch for a train once, and it was full of cork plugs to. I have no idea what kind of train. I used to know these Amish machinists, I wanted them to make me a piston and they were rebuilding the train clutch while I was there.
There's another you tube vid called 1936 Terraplane engine overview from gruesome's garage.You might find some good info from that including how the internal tinware for the cooling system on the side of the block is the first thing to check.Even oil change procedure I found interesting
In the early 1930's, Terraplane was the 'sporty' marque of the Hudson Motor Company. By the mid 1930's, they were being sold as just a sport version of the Hudson marque as the Hudson Terraplane, but from the late 1920's to the early 30's, Terraplane and Hudson had separate dealerships. Around about 1932, the Terraplane straight-8 was the fastest American car. The famous American outlaw Clyde Barrow (of 'Bonnie & Clyde' fame) used to prefer stealing Terraplane 8's, since no cop could outrun him. Terraplane 8's, though, were fairly rare, so he mostly stole Ford V-8's of the 1932-1934 vintage. Your motor is a straight 6, not as rare or valuable as the straight 8. Having a downdraft carb was fairly rare in those days, and the same basic motor served Hudson for years after they abandoned the Terraplane brand name (late 1930's), until it was replaced by an OHV unit.
new subscriber glad to be here ,had the same engine in a ol mid 50s Fargo ,the cocky who we got the ute from said he found that motor and fitted it 25 years ago ,Far South Coast NSW
advanced for the late 1930's, completely obsolete by the 1950's. if only it had a 5 main crankshaft or better and was built as a pushrod... i get that friction was a problem due to the oiling techniques used back then, but still...
Personally I’m just fascinated by how simple things were engineered way back in the day when life was simple , try to picture the process and people working on and designing this old school beauty.
They were a mad old piece of kit alright! I think the crazy exhaust was to reduce the likelihood of block cracks - common in Ford sideys. I'm pretty sure it was a special oil used in the clutch. I dunno where you guys are, but you might have trouble finding someone who can still pour babbit bearings. Good luck, fellas, there's gunna be some real satisfaction in hearing it run again, I reckon!
I do believe, that it's a 3 speed transmission, with reverse. 3rd gear is direct, so while there's a shifting dog to connect the input shaft straight to the output, there will not be any gears for 3rd. I'm not sure that this transmission is synchronized. You may need to "double clutch" the shifts. A lot of these transmissions were synchronized for 2nd and 3rd, but didn't have synchros for reverse or 1st. The transmission reminds me of something I've seen in an old Willy's JEEP.
BUMMER! I would like to have seen that transmission paired with that old flat head inline six! I like the idea of using that as the drive for an old "rat-rod".@@unclebrentsshed4253
One Of Robert Johnson’s best songs, “Terraplane Blues” is about a woman he left years before beating the snot out of his old Terraplane. The lyrics are basically a list of the problems she has failed to fix, while continuing to drive it.
Good ol’ Babbitt bearings on an old engine. They look like they were redone recently as there are a lot of shims left. If there were no shims left that engine would have needed new bearings. Also that oil pan might have had spray nozzles for the dippers on the rods. That’s how the old chevy 216 did it. Oil “pressure” at idle was almost nonexistent and that is one way to scare the driver that’s not used to it. 🤣
Brent takn the vf from Pattie’s yard was the first video i saw now im bloody hooked… throw those sparkys in a bowl of fuel give em a quick sand n theyl b fine, abit of fresh oil n some fuel i bet this 1’l fire straight up 2😂😂😂😂 6 different shades of shit
It’s really unusual to look into at the top , it almost looks like there’s a gear missing , unless first gear uses the reverse gear without idler , I’ll have another look to clarify
I kept a fleet of similar design oil-clutch industrial trucks going. Unbelievably rugged clutch design; almost impossible to abuse to failure. They were lubricated via common 10W engine oil or hydraulic oil. Thanks for the video!
What a Wonderful Ancient Lump . I think you WILL get it to run again too . Everything is Filthy Dirty but nothing looks Actually Broken . I think " Powerdome " refers to the Shape of the Heads . That Ramp Shape . Stand By for 25 RAGING Horsepower . Also about 1000 lb/ft of Torque . I just Subbed . VERY interested in seeing that Old Girl run again .
Interesting video. Thank you. I have subscribed. I understand that Bakelite comprises phenolic resin and a filler. The filler will ideally be wood-based i.e., sawdust BUT in some cases asbestos was reportedly used.
@@unclebrentsshed4253 You don't see too many Hudson's in junkyards. I have a couple of packs of Pontiac bearing shims I show to guys who haven't heard of babbited rods.
Yes its a Great idea for a Channel Mate, Real Aussie Guys Rebuilding Real Engines, Now you Just Need to Chuck a Couple of Beers down When she's Rebuilt, & you start her up Mate. & Maybe Throw a Barbie to Celebrate & You Couldn't get a More Aussie Car Rebuild Channel than that Hey. 😀
The Terraplane was a lower cost car to meet depression era economics as Hudson themselves were competing higher up in the market. It was quite popular over it production run given the times and even in six cylinder form gave the Ford V8 a run for its money and in its later straight 8 form set quite a few stock car records. A strange name for a car but it came from this marketing slogan that tapped into all the records being broken in the air, on the water and on the race tracks. “On the sea that’s aquaplaning, in the air that’s aeroplaning, but on the land, in the traffic, on the hills, hot diggity dog, that’s Terraplaning!” The car had some very unique features given its lower cost market place. The gear selector was electric over vacuum with the little gear lever being attached to the steering column. it was developed by Bendix and used on a few other cars. The gear you wanted was pre selected by the "electric hand" on the column and when you pressed the clutch the gearchange happened. Your gearbox is missing all of the selector system and clutch control. Three speed plus reverse. first and second via the counter shaft and third is direct drive through the mainshaft.
Thank you for such awesome information , very much appreciated 👌🏽👌🏽
Damn I thought they called it that because of the propeller on the front.
Terraplane rhymes with aeroplane. May have been part of the 'marketing' ploy of the day?~ Torque for the taking with that long stroke. Probably reasonably fuel efficient, considering how long each cylinder charge has to combust before the exhaust valve opens! Great find! and kudos for saving such a rare old piece of automotive history! Cheers from across the ditch!
@@andygreen685 Terrafirma
the electric hand was an option, was not standard. The straight 8 was never used in Stock car racing. Only the 308 Inline 6 was used in stock car racing. The Terraplane nameplate was Started in 32' dropped by 38'. Terraplane had thinner and lighter frames which made them lighter then their Hudson counterparts.
My Dad had a 37 Hudson straight 8, almost exactly the same as that. I was 15 at the time, done a big-end so we parked the car over an old mineshaft ( Central West Queensland Australia Gemfields) the hole was about 2 foot deep, I crawled under, drained the oil and dropped the pan. Unbeknown to me there was a second pan which doesn't drain ! Oh what a mess, I had nowhere to move in such a confined space. First thing we found was that it was an oil-filled clutch after we burned out the throw-out bearing. Correct oil is Hudsonite, Singer sewing machine oil is a good alternative. you will find the engine number below the water manifold on the left side. Dad had a piece of babbit metal left over from a chev job and we re-metaled the big-end.
That’s such a great story , thanks for sharing it , the good old days 😊
Sounds like everything a right & proper nightmare is made of...
One great thing about Hudson engines is the Chrome-alloy engine block. It was so hard that you can easily ruin your boring bar trying to re-bore it. They don't need valve seat inserts for the same reason.
Yes we did hear that , thank you 👌🏽
The disadvantages of Flatheads, is the gas flow, the advantages are reduced number of moving parts that can break. Flatheads go real well with turbos,.....
Add direct stratified injection through the top of the head, will clean up it's emissions and take the fuel out of the inlet, meaning more space in the port for air molecules, and more fuel in the injection, for more power.
I’m a bit scared of the rod thickness lol
I think we’ll just concentrate on getting the old girl running first.
I do like the injection option 👌🏽
Olsons Gaskets in Port Orchard Washington has complete gasket sets for those and near all other engines to 1900 for all applications.
I have a 32 Essex Super 6 car, your base engine looks quite like it mine. Also have 31 Hudson 8 75K miles stock bores still excellent condition, apparently very high nickel alloy blocks. Both are roller lifters (Essex is Hudson). I figure those engines would have done 200K+ miles given todays oil, proper oil filter and proper oil changes. Both engines the stroke is near double the bore which is why they were good drivers. Other than couple small floor panels no wood in the bodies unlike most other same era cars.
When I get old engines first thing I do is pressure wash them then keep the fasteners and pistons wet with penetrant for couple weeks. I do not turn cranks until I clean the bores to save the rings, near always a rust layer in the bores.
I updated the essex with a Ford 300 6 cause the Essex 6 is too slow for todays traffic. My wife drives the stock Hudson no problem after I changed the bad carb to a weber. The newest vehicle I drive is 1959 for good reason (mostly keeps me sane).
Cheers for the information , much appreciated.
Sounds like you’re living the dream 👌🏽👌🏽
In my shop yes, in my country no, total hell scape which is why I noted 'keeps me sane'. Sure do hope you folks are not under this left insanity. If you can find one grab a 59 thunderbird with 3 speed overdrive. My favorite cruiser by far.@@unclebrentsshed4253
The power dome option was a 106 HP version of the Terraplane engine. It was a 3 speed transmission and 4:11 rear ratio. I'm putting one of those power trains in a '27 model T for vintage flathead racing.
Wow that would be awesome to see 👌🏽
Just clicked on your page . Molly is a cool 37'! I've got a 36' with future plans once I get other cars done.
Old Hudson engine wow that’s awesome glad you guys are saving these old cars and iron from the scrap pile thanks for sharing
We’re trying mate , thanks for your support 👌🏽
I remember my older brother had a Terraplane as a paddock bomb back in the 1960’s and where I honed my driving skills in it as a 12 year old around the bush tracks and it still sticks with me to this day where all my brothers mates used to say how much low end power the power dome engine had and There was a particular very steep almost dangerous dirt slope we used to call the sandhill even though it was dirt and if any of our cars could make it to the top only in dry weather here in Melbourne I may add, it was sort of like a badge of honour and it was agreed that you had a good car! As the terraplane had so much bottom end torque with its long stroke the thing just cruised up it! These were the days when we could buy unregistered trade ins from police car car yards around Bell Street, Preston like FX and FJ Holdens, old sidewacker Ford Customlines to pommie shit for as little as twenty to thirty bucks and thrash the S… out of them until we broke axles, diffs, gearboxes or blew the donks up or rolled them over, we never had sny super serious injuries thank god but man what fun we had for our money every weekend! You can’t do that these days! Good luck with getting the grouse old engine going again 👍
Subtract police car yards I meant Used car yards!
That’s an awesome story , glad it brought memories back for you .
Thank you 👌🏽
Yes a few mates and I bought a 1953 Black Customline anniversary model sedan from the Preston car yard just around the corner from Bell St in Elizabeth St for $10. Must have been in the early 1970s, we paid $10. It was stuck in top gear and unregistered. Not sure how we got it home to nearby Eaglemont where we parked it in a back lane out the back of a mates parents place. Moving on 50 years the car yard is still there as is the back lane. Registered FX/FJ Holdens in those days started at about $29. Of course at this stage they weren’t much more than 15 years old. But the ones in this yard must have been carefully selected as they’d all had hard lives, rusted floors, etc.
@@YSA920 Geez that’s coincidental, I too bought a 53 anniversary model from a pokey little car yard in Bell street just west of the railway crossing before St.Georges Rd in about 1969, a green one and it was in pretty good nick with a really good sidewacker V8 in it, I remember the badge on the dash denoting the anniversary model, I think I paid about around $70 for it, It was too good to bash around the paddocks around the Moonee ponds creek area west of Glenroy so me and my mates used to go for drives in at night, mind you we didn’t have a licence and the car was unregistered but we never got caught and had a great time! Probably couldn’t get away with that behaviour nowadays!
@@jamesgovett3225 oh to have those Customlines back. Digressing further on the Calder Highway on the way to Woodend there used to be a bargain car yard there, possibly the same location as dealt Morgans in later years. We took an OHV 272 Customline for a test drive from there, they were not that quick but back in the day you could wind them out in 2nd (3 on the tree). This one blew a welshplug during the test drive, I don’t remember what the car yard guy said, unless we just parked it and handed back the keys? From memory $200 or less.
A mate of mine restored a Hudson Terraplane back in the 1980's, he half jokingly referred to it as a 'Terrible Pain'. Good luck with the rebuild
Haha cheers mate 👌🏽
Great video! The first car that I “drove” was a Terraplane, sitting on dads lap while I steered, aged about 4 in 1959. (NSW). When I was older I was fascinated by the words Terraplane and Power Dome cast into the cylinder head. The engine had incredible torque, thanks to that 5 inch stroke, and dad would often boast that he could start off from stationary in third gear.
That’s some good memories right there man , thanks for sharing 👌🏽
My dad had a Terraplane pickup when I was a teenager, late '70s or so. Was pretty rare as I remember.
That would have been pretty cool 👌🏽
The Terraplane pickup was and is pretty rare, and it was a Hudson Terraplane version of competitor Studebaker's Coupe Express, which could be considered to be what the Australians refer to as a Ute, as the doors forward of the vehicle was the same as used on a car but had a pickup cab panel behind the doors and had a truck bed behind the cab. There was also a Hudson branded version. All are quite rare today.
That's a cool find. I love old engines. I have always had an appreciation for old-school mechanical engineering they're like functional art pieces.
Yes , same here mate 👌🏽
Interesting engine for sure. I've never heard of such an engine, but would like to follow along to see how it comes out... Thumbs Up!
Cheers for the support 👌🏽
A Terraplane motor in a Valiant. The Terraplane was made by Hudson. Babbited rods with shims. They had a strange oil supply looks like some combination of splash and pressure lubrication. I worked for my brother in law's garage one year and they still had cans of Hudsonite clutch juice on the shelf.
Cool motors , cheers for your input mate 👌🏽👌🏽
You scored a piece of history unknown. ❤
Cheers
The scoop method of feeding oil to the bearings was also used in pre-war Chevvies.
Yes seems to be very common of that area, but it seems to work ok
The box will be a 3 speed. The biggest gear on the main shaft is first, the medium gear is second. Third is just connecting the input shaft to the main shaft. The idler gears are reverse.
It’s hard to show on camera , I’m wondering if first gear is straight cut and second gear is helical and third is straight through like you said
Those bores look mint compared to what I was expecting from first sight. You guys got lucky! You also got a sub for the excellent engine content!
Cheers mate , much appreciated 👌🏽
Outstanding video and find. Good on you pal, save that old dog. Too bad we can't update them with oil gallies and pressure, modern filter and caps and bearing. But getting back to life as is will be a very good then. I am hoping to see Part 2 soon. Dennis in Virginia, USA
Cheers Dennis , it will be getting a few mods as we go , mainly when we find things that need updating when the old bits won’t work
You guys are true optimists! As she came apart, I kept thinking "Briggs on steroids", as a factory stroker. My favorite parts are the clutch & the preheater intake manifold, like an old Ford tractor! Subscribed, so I can hear it run again!
Cheers, much appreciated for your support
When I saw it with the head off I thought the same. Design looks like a bunch of B&S engines joined end to end.
What an amazing engine. I. would love to see it all restored and running.
Stay tuned to this channel and you’ll see it in the future 👌🏽
...From Wikipedia: "The Terraplane was a car brand and model built by the Hudson Motor Car Company of Detroit, Michigan, between 1932 and 1938. In its maiden year, the car was branded as the Essex-Terraplane; in 1934 the car became simply the Terraplane. They were inexpensive, yet powerful vehicles that were used in both town and country. The Terraplane name was used for both cars and trucks.".... Terra..(Earth) plane.... My dad owned one back in the 50's.... A very reliable car.
That’s awesome , cheers for sharing
Yeah I Haven't Built an Engine for a few years, But Watching yous guys Makes me want to start a new project.
This channel has definitely motivated me to
@@unclebrentsshed4253 Yes its a Great idea for a Channel Mate, Real Aussie Guys Rebuilding Real Engines, Now you Just Need to Chuck a Couple of Beers down When she's Rebuilt, & you start her up Mate. & Maybe Throw a Barbie to Celebrate & You Couldn't get a More Aussie Car Rebuild Channel than that Hey. 😀
Hi, so refreshing to hear 'Split Pins' as what they are , many thanks from Nr Chester
Haha you’re welcome 👌🏽
I worked at a trannie shop/parts distribution warehouse hub. We repaired train trannies. Made custom monster truck transmissions as well as US passenger stuff.
We also installed several hundreds of 6 to 12 plate wet pack clutches in UPS vans. That looks like a very old version of the UPS clutches.
BTW In 1983 A full clutch pack with pressure plate, clutch pack etc. ran north of $7,000.00... For the "cheap" ones. Never had one come back from wear.
That’s crazy 👌🏽
Hudson's were amazing, even in their lower priced cars - the Terraplane which was promoted by Amelia Earhart and was a fairly popular car in its time. The wet cork clutch was surprisingly smooth and reliable.I wasn't aware of the timing gear being bakelite and am amazed at the condition of it for its age. I also wasn't aware of it having been exported but am not an expert on these cars so had never even thought about it. The Terraplane was dropped from the Hudson lineup before WWII, and Hudson merged with Nash-Kelvinater (Rambler) in the early 1950's which formed American Motors Corporation (AMC) and the Hudson name was dropped a few years later along with the Nash name, but the Rambler name continued to the late 1960's. AMC by then had bought out Kaiser-Jeep and it was later bought out by Chrysler Corporation, so in a sense, I guess a person could say that in a way Hudson/Terraplane has descendants still being produced today.
That’s some great information , so very grateful for your input .
Thank you very much 👌🏽
@@unclebrentsshed4253thank you. You are very welcome, but you are overrating my small contribution. I don't think I would say what I gave is great information as it is information which can be easily found and verified. Keep up the great videos and the knowledge you have been sharing as what you are doing is appreciated by many and I am grateful that I found your videos.
The ones being produced today won't be around in 80yrs. This probably will be.
@@GrimReaper-ly8zk the ones being produced today probably won't be around in 50 years let alone 80 years
Hudson products were quite popular in export markets around the world, in the 1930s 17.9% of production was exported. I think the small bore, long stroke, small displacement six cylinder engine had something to do with it as it made for lower license fees in many English and Commonwealth countries. It was about 21 taxable HP not bad for a big, roomy, six cylinder sedan.
First car when I was 12 years old a 47 Hudson, super six, wet cork clutch drove her pedal to the metal around our acreage for three years before blowing the head gasket, 45 mph in first gear once too often. Then a neighbour moved in they had a Hudson Hornet six cylinder with multiple carbs. Hudson engineers were ahead of the other manufactures.
That’s so cool , definitely ahead of their time 👌🏽
Thank you for this video! Yes subbed! So cool to see you guys work on that and find out what is inside! I got some flatties myself, but... just mini bikes and mowers. Still fun to play around with and see if I can make em run again. Cheers from the States (Chicagoland)
No worries brother, glad you enjoyed 👌🏽
My grandmother's first car was a Terraplane, she always said it was her favorite car and never let her down.
They must have been so cool back in the day , cheers 👌🏽
Gearbox is a 3 speed with high gear being direct drive (no gears). So you have gears for low and second, and a different set for reverse.
Hudson used its own design of oil bath clutch from 1909 until the mid 1950s. Very smooth and effective. Had no trouble even with the 170HP Twin H Power engine. You can reline the clutch plate with bottle corks and cut them to the right thickness with a sharp knife. Pro tip, push half the corks thru from one side, half from the other and they can't fall out. Fill the clutch housing with 6 oz of automatic transmission fluid, top up or change at every oil change.
Cheers for the advice , much appreciated 👌🏽
Love ❤️ the idea of the area. 👍
So much adjustment on the bearing. Wish we had today.
The pain great idea.
I'm shore this motor has alot of hrs on it.
Time war's.
Today engine be the same. I think not. Hehe.
Thank you mate. 😊
No problem , thanks for your input 👌🏽
High performance power plant from early 1930's what a beast..👍
Hope we get it breathing in the near future 👌🏽
Had to chuckle when ya pulled that head off !
I almost vomited 😂😅
Love to follow the journey to get it running.
Thank you
Nice bit of automotive archeology. Very interesting to watch. Thanks guys.
No problem , thanks for joining in 👌🏽
these terraplane engines were real good speedboat motors ,especially if they were balanced and ported you could run salt water straight into them for cooling so no heat exchanger torquey as hell for pulling skiers out of the water, easy to work on and modify to up horsepower
Iv never heard one in real life
Get a couple guys to help. Make new timing gears. A person who can cast new gear blanks. Possibly iron. With a brass cam gear, or a aluminum cam gear. With a brass gear pressed on. And a iron crank gear. Get the blanks milled from foam. And do lost foam casting. Use s mill to do a final cut for the gear teeth and mounting surface . The bearings will probably just need cleaning. I would possibly work on a crank driven oil pump. With remote oil filter. Snd stleast spray oil on the cam, cylinders and other parts use the stock ports to plumb it in. And mount the nozzles to the dipper pan. Maybe try pressuring the main bearings atleast. Have nozzles spray 30-40 psi oil into the rods dippers after they leave the oil dip tray. The pressure along with the rods motion it should be similar to getting 100psi oil for a fraction of s second. If it didn't get enough while dipping. The nozzle should get it done. That engine should make a fair amount of TQ.
Maybe 80-100 HP , if its a good day. A 5" stroke, probably 5:1 compression, if that is pushed to 8:1 and possibly a cam ground for it. Port the ports and manifolds it will possibly make 130hp get the compression up bit and add a turbo, find a model A hot rod to put it in. Adapt a t-5 , 5 speed transmission to it. Maybe an automatic. Definitely would be different!!
I like your style brother , thanks for your input , it’s very encouraging.
Thank you
It aint no 265 but always enjoy some old Aussie mechanical History. That engine cover is cool.
I just like it because it’s unusual to me and my mate and the fact that it’s 80 odd years old 👌🏽
man that is some cool shite. I would love to see it built. cheers.
Yes it will run again , might be 12 months away but we’ll get there 👌🏽
Given that it has likely been sitting out in the open for decades - that engine is in amazing and very rebuildable condition!
It’s surprised me how well it came apart 👌🏽
What an awesome find/save, that'll come up alright. Good work.
I hope so to 👌🏽
You do that will interesting thanks mate
Thank you 👌🏽
A mate had a Hudson Terraplane, (late 30s car I think), back in the 80s. Took it out to Mallala with his Group N EH, and he took it for a couple of laps between races.
Yeah, that's not so bad, it'll run again. Poured bearings, the old 100E Prefects had the same.
That’s awesome , trying to find pistons that won’t break the bank at the moment lol
Be daring, clean them up and re-use them 😆
Hawkey?
@@ldnwholesale8552 That be him. And just at a guess, you ran a Torana sports sedan.
@@unclebrentsshed4253 the 8 had the same size bore as the early Holden, Australian GMH
You promised an oddball engine and you delivered . Think i'll subscribe and see more of what your doing . Yes it needs to sit in a cool rat rod 👍👍🇺🇸
Cheers mate , much appreciated 👌🏽
Cool find. Enjoy watching you guys work on it. Hope to see you guys get her running again.
Thank you 👌🏽
Nothin like the smell of a 300 year old plug pullin either 🤣
Nice find. Hope to see it run.
😂😅😂😅👌🏽
My father had a '36'in high school in '41' faster than fast he said. The biggest issue only cable operated rear brakes which needed adjusted quite often to keep them working right.
That must have been entertaining back in the day lol
That's an interesting ol banger !!! Good you for getting it back home safe !!! 😉😎
Cheers mate, thank you very much
Ya see you need to lay that Hudson over then it might fit.
Clem Smith [owner Mallala Race track] raced a Terraplane Special at Rowley Pk in the 60s,, a front running car. He had a collection of Hudsons auctioned off after he died. All runners.
Bizare?? No just old. Many sidevalve engines, even up to the 60s with Dodge sidevalves the basic engine in Mopar products. Replaced by the slant 6.
3 speed gearbox
Awesome story , thank you for your input 👌🏽👌🏽
Very cool learning experience. Thank You
P.S. Not sure I would have much faith in un-shimming the rods to quiet a rod knock though.
Cheers , not looking forward to readjusting them ourselves either lol
The best of luck to you!
Cheers mate 👌🏽
So it’s out of warranty 😂
Only just 😂😅👌🏽
yes they had a cork clutch and were filled with an item called Hudsonite ,in their day were a rippa .made great racing engine when hotted up,owned a 35 coupe with a canvas hood and dicky seat ,and a 36sedan with a crank handle a mile long,could fit an early holden carb for better fuel consumption .
Wow that would have been cool to see back in the day 👌🏽
Interesting, never heard of a Terraplane cars here in the US, we had plenty of Hudson though. Terra means earth, plane means flat plane so Terraplane means Earth Plane, or Flat Earth Plane Car! Very cool old flat head, it would be neat to see it run, God Bless.
Cheers mate much appreciated 👌🏽
Hudson built the Terraplane model until the Hornet came out in the late 1940s.
"even the apprentice's that worked on this are dead" haha, what an unusual engine, be incredible to see this running again mate, good stuff
Cheers man, can’t wait to hear it run again myself, my mate owns the engine and is basically funding the project .
I’m just taking the glory by making a few videos from it lol
Piston wise it’s going to be expensive , my mate just bought a Honda piston on eBay to see if it’ll work lol 👌🏽
ah yeah i can imagine the cost! i guess maybe search for a forum to see if anyone else has found replacement parts that are like for like? hopefully you can find something mate
@@unclebrentsshed4253
Most enjoyable and cool teardown vid I have seen. Nice job
Episode 2 up tomorrow 👌🏽
Good to see old tech ..this I've seen on dump truck vehicle
Cheers
I was surprised when I stumbled across this video as I hadn't realized that the Terraplane was exported, even though I should have realized it since Hudson's were exported and Hudson made the Terraplane. I glanced to see what your other videos are and decided to subscribe. I'm not sure if you are an Aussie or a Kiwi but know that you are one or the other and think the cars from over there are pretty cool and unique compared to what we have here in the USA....other than being driven from the wrong side of the car on the wrong side of the road...lol.😁... Thank you for posting this very interesting and informative video. I'm looking forward to seeing it run again and to see what you do with it once it's done.
Cheers brother that means a lot .
I’m based in mid South Australia 🇦🇺
@@unclebrentsshed4253 I'm from Ely, Minnesota --- Land of 10,000 lakes..(chosen because it sounded better than the land of 11,642 lakes)...lol. I live about 15 miles from the Canadian Border due north of the western tip of Lake Superior (largest of the Great Lakes at 31,700 square miles)... Yup... It's BIG...lol.
There was a Terraplane dealer in Deadwood S.D. The painted signage is still on the side of a building on the main drag through town.
Not sure where that is but it sounds very cool , thank you
You have to be kidding me! Origin of the Deadmans Hand in cards, Wild Bill Hickok shot in the back of his head. Deadwood is probably the most famous old west town in the U.S.A. and home to one of the oldest gold mines now a science lab. HOMESTAKE Sturgis motorcycle rally just 15 miles down the road. The tv series "Deadwood" based on the town and its sheriff . @@unclebrentsshed4253
This engine will need a lot of work IF it going to run again!! I thought Hudson Terraplane was a 1930s car, the car in the video looks about 1960s.
Well observed , the engine was dropped into the car to transport both car and engine home
Just saw your video today , and wanted to share some unfortunate news . Here in Southern California in San Diego there used to be an automotive parts store called “ E&W auto parts” that at one time had damn near every Damn engine related part under its roof , for All makes & models of American made cars ( and some imports) going back almost 100 years or more , and Run by the same family for generations ( I’m 63-1/2 , and can remember going in as a young lad in the 1960’s with my Dad to get some Model T Ford parts) and the counter personnel knew where everything was as they had incredible stock on hand . Unfortunately they went “ Belly up “ just about the beginning of Covid Episode here , and have closed doors permanently, and liquidated all stock ( I saw an awful lot going into Scrap dumpsters amidst tears from the owners & a few of us in attendance who happened to be there the final day they closed) . If only you had found & decided on this rebuild about 5 years earlier….. 😕. Anyway I found this video interesting as I personally have heard of those old Chrysler’s , but have never seen one in the flesh. Good luck on your project, and will be curious to see how it all turns out . 😎👍
We had a similar situation here where we picked up the engine from , was closing down after being open for nearly 100 years , very disappointing
You've probably opened the oil pump by now .... My money says it's a vane type pump. Had an Allis Chalmers tractor once, and it had a vane type oil pump that was directly driven by the rear of the camshaft. Camshaft was hollow and carried oil forward to its bearings. Seems like that was oil from the relief valve. Lots of weird stuff going on back then!
That’s awesome , I like weird old stuff to , I love the simplicity of everything 👌🏽
Imagine when the Hudson Terraplane was being assmbled at the factory??
If you showed them a modern cordless impact gun! :)
I’m pretty sure we’ve gone backwards in most cases
They are called babot scoops. They scoop up the oil and force it between crank and bearing.
Awesome thank you 👌🏽
THANKS, great vid! Woulda walked away after the plugs, but it was very surprising that the bores were pretty good. Surprisingly small/narrow space between the bores. Hard to believe that it could get enough oil splash to not half destroy it self on startup, the cam is the only thing getting a direct feed probably, everything else seems like dumb luck to get lubed. There's gotta be something for the lifters/tappets & valve guides. Thanks again.
It’s definitely a unique engine , can’t wait to hear it run again
their is no direct oiling for the valves. The engine creates an oil mist, by design, that lubricates everything that is not splasher oiled or direct oiled.
Hudson's designer was very strong on splash lubrication. They published a list of 10 reasons it was superior. I only remember 2 of them 1) As soon as the engine turns over once, all the bearings get oil. With a pressure system it can take half a minute or a minute to build up pressure especially in cold weather. As most wear takes place with a cold, unlubricated engine the splash system is better 2) If you burn out a rod bearing it doesn't affect any other bearing. With a pressure system if one bearing goes out all the pressure leaks away and it's goodbye to the other bearings. With the splash system you replace the 1 bad rod and you are good to go.
Sir this project looks like a good end ever, I like it. Hope to see it running. Good luck.
Cheers , thank you very much 👌🏽
Very unusual motor & box, an awesome find & project
Be interesting in a RatRod build
Love U & your work Bro🥰
Cheers brother 👌🏽
I seen a clutch for a train once, and it was full of cork plugs to. I have no idea what kind of train. I used to know these Amish machinists, I wanted them to make me a piston and they were rebuilding the train clutch while I was there.
Now that sounds like a good story you need to tell, I’d love to hear it
There's another you tube vid called 1936 Terraplane engine overview from gruesome's garage.You might find some good info from that including how the internal tinware for the cooling system on the side of the block is the first thing to check.Even oil change procedure I found interesting
Ok cheers , I’ll check it out
Thank you
In the early 1930's, Terraplane was the 'sporty' marque of the Hudson Motor Company. By the mid 1930's, they were being sold as just a sport version of the Hudson marque as the Hudson Terraplane, but from the late 1920's to the early 30's, Terraplane and Hudson had separate dealerships.
Around about 1932, the Terraplane straight-8 was the fastest American car. The famous American outlaw Clyde Barrow (of 'Bonnie & Clyde' fame) used to prefer stealing Terraplane 8's, since no cop could outrun him. Terraplane 8's, though, were fairly rare, so he mostly stole Ford V-8's of the 1932-1934 vintage.
Your motor is a straight 6, not as rare or valuable as the straight 8. Having a downdraft carb was fairly rare in those days, and the same basic motor served Hudson for years after they abandoned the Terraplane brand name (late 1930's), until it was replaced by an OHV unit.
Awesome bit of information , thank you .
Hope you enjoy the video 👌🏽
new subscriber glad to be here ,had the same engine in a ol mid 50s Fargo ,the cocky who we got the ute from said he found that motor and fitted it 25 years ago ,Far South Coast NSW
Oh wow that’s awesome 👌🏽
advanced for the late 1930's, completely obsolete by the 1950's. if only it had a 5 main crankshaft or better and was built as a pushrod... i get that friction was a problem due to the oiling techniques used back then, but still...
Personally I’m just fascinated by how simple things were engineered way back in the day when life was simple , try to picture the process and people working on and designing this old school beauty.
They made Hudsons up to around 1960.
They were a mad old piece of kit alright! I think the crazy exhaust was to reduce the likelihood of block cracks - common in Ford sideys. I'm pretty sure it was a special oil used in the clutch. I dunno where you guys are, but you might have trouble finding someone who can still pour babbit bearings. Good luck, fellas, there's gunna be some real satisfaction in hearing it run again, I reckon!
Cheers mate , can’t wait to hear it run 👌🏽
I do believe, that it's a 3 speed transmission, with reverse. 3rd gear is direct, so while there's a shifting dog to connect the input shaft straight to the output, there will not be any gears for 3rd. I'm not sure that this transmission is synchronized. You may need to "double clutch" the shifts. A lot of these transmissions were synchronized for 2nd and 3rd, but didn't have synchros for reverse or 1st. The transmission reminds me of something I've seen in an old Willy's JEEP.
I’m yet to strip it down but there’s a good chance that we won’t be using it , has to many parts missing
BUMMER! I would like to have seen that transmission paired with that old flat head inline six! I like the idea of using that as the drive for an old "rat-rod".@@unclebrentsshed4253
Interesting pull down of this engine. A nice digression from the Chrysler engines. I hope your able to get it running again.
I hope so too , thank you
Nice finds lads.
Cheers brother 👌🏽
you need a huge ultrasonic tank or hot keroscene tank, cleanit before messin with it
Yes we do 👌🏽👌🏽
You need a fork lift truck refresher course , look behind before reversing.
I just need a new forklift 😅
that motor would be quite valuable in restored and running condition.
Possibly but it won’t be for sale while I’m alive 😅
One Of Robert Johnson’s best songs, “Terraplane Blues” is about a woman he left years before beating the snot out of his old Terraplane. The lyrics are basically a list of the problems she has failed to fix, while continuing to drive it.
Wow , I’ll search that up , thank you 👌🏽
Good ol’ Babbitt bearings on an old engine. They look like they were redone recently as there are a lot of shims left. If there were no shims left that engine would have needed new bearings.
Also that oil pan might have had spray nozzles for the dippers on the rods. That’s how the old chevy 216 did it. Oil “pressure” at idle was almost nonexistent and that is one way to scare the driver that’s not used to it. 🤣
Cheers mate , glad you enjoyed 👌🏽
Brent takn the vf from Pattie’s yard was the first video i saw now im bloody hooked…
throw those sparkys in a bowl of fuel give em a quick sand n theyl b fine, abit of fresh oil n some fuel i bet this 1’l fire straight up 2😂😂😂😂
6 different shades of shit
Haha hell yeah brother 👌🏽👌🏽
What's that Hudson engine doing in a '64 Dart? That car was a screamer with the 273 which was upgradable to a 340.
1967 VC Valiant , originally a slant car .
Gearbox is a three speed, typical of the era. Three fwd and a reverse. One shift rail for first and reverse, the other for second and third.
It’s really unusual to look into at the top , it almost looks like there’s a gear missing , unless first gear uses the reverse gear without idler , I’ll have another look to clarify
That oil in the clutch was special from Hudson.....It was called Hudsonite.....
Ok thank you for the information 👌🏽
I kept a fleet of similar design oil-clutch industrial trucks going. Unbelievably rugged clutch design; almost impossible to abuse to failure. They were lubricated via common 10W engine oil or hydraulic oil.
Thanks for the video!
Terra planes were very streamlined high end Hudson's like like Lincolns were high end Ford's
Pretty cool hey 👌🏽
Terraplanes were not high end Hudsons. They were actually a lower cost brand of Hudson.
iv never seen that before a head that looks like it need a water blaster to wash it clean
She’s pretty crusty
Very nice. Looks like aliens tried to make an engine from a few fuzzy black and white photos and a vague understanding but decent mechanical skills.
Haha I think you nailed it 😅👌🏽
The camshafts were not fully case hardened and used to wear to become full race camshafts.
That’s very interesting
Hudson Essex terraplane club link below. They have everything you will need. Even an Aussie chapter!
Cheers thank you 👌🏽
dippers on the conrod caps make sure the right way around.
Yes for sure , could be an expensive mistake
Uncle Brent Excellent Chan, a clear view of unique product and pleasantly presented! What If, what if that old dragon gifts a supercharger?
Maybe a gearbox converter plate?
Great team Happy Holiday's too ya!
That would be beautiful 👌🏽
Definitely
Thank you
What a Wonderful Ancient Lump . I think you WILL get it to run again too . Everything is Filthy Dirty but nothing looks Actually Broken .
I think " Powerdome " refers to the Shape of the Heads . That Ramp Shape . Stand By for 25 RAGING Horsepower . Also about 1000 lb/ft of Torque .
I just Subbed . VERY interested in seeing that Old Girl run again .
Thank you very much 👌🏽
So the car when you seen it was it like roadkill met mad Max 😁
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👍 best engine strip down I've seen for ages keep up the good work. Would look great in a full custom 🙂
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Interesting video. Thank you. I have subscribed. I understand that Bakelite comprises phenolic resin and a filler. The filler will ideally be wood-based i.e., sawdust BUT in some cases asbestos was reportedly used.
Oh very interesting , thank you
It is probably a 38, most Hudsons were custom bodies in Australia.
So cool , thanks 👌🏽
Can I send you guys some of my Domincan neighbors hot sauce? That stuff will free up any rusted piston or valve on anything made...
You sure can 👌🏽
Pretty normal-looking engine for the year.
Probably is but iv never seen or heard of one before
@@unclebrentsshed4253 You don't see too many Hudson's in junkyards.
I have a couple of packs of Pontiac bearing shims I show to guys who haven't heard of babbited rods.
Yes its a Great idea for a Channel Mate, Real Aussie Guys Rebuilding Real Engines, Now you Just Need to Chuck a Couple of Beers down When she's Rebuilt, & you start her up Mate. & Maybe Throw a Barbie to Celebrate & You Couldn't get a More Aussie Car Rebuild Channel than that Hey. 😀
Cheers brother , I love the idea.
Thank you 👌🏽