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There is a book called "Moses in Ancient Egypt, the Hidden Story of the Bible," That equates him with Prince Ramose, and Hebrew history about a military commander that marries the Princess of Nubia. Indeed, my Research links Adam with the Egyptian God Geb, the Canaanite El, and that makes Cain and Seth the same person, and their two bloodlines are also the same. Thanks for showing me additional evidence they are the cult of Set. As RA mose, an aspect of Moses is the Prince of RA. Moses has a new song to sing, apparently.
There's a great book I'd recommend called Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, that goes into the link between Hinduism and Judaism. Many of the Vedic stories mirror the Old Testament stories, and it is believed that the Brahmans (chosen caste) created Judaism. In fact, the story of Abraham and Sarah came from the story of Brahma and Saraswati. Voltaire echoed this claim in Ezourvedam in 1760 stating that not only were Brahma and Abraham the same, but that all religions originally came out of India, the cradle of civilization. But it was really Megasthenes who clued us into who the Jews really were and where they originally came from. Megasthenes, an Ionian from Asia Minor, and contemporary of Seleucus Nicator, was charged with several embassies to India, where he spent a number of years between 302 and 288 BCE. His book Indica was one of the chief sources of knowledge about India in the Hellenistic era. He was the first to write about the connection between Judaism and Indian philosophers calling them Calanoi or Ioudaioi in Syria. Aristotle also spoke about them saying that the "Jews are descended (apogonoi) from the Indian philosophers." And Flavius Josephus quotes a passage from Clearchus' Dialogue on Dreams, which recounts what Aristotle said. And if you can get your hands on a copy of Arumuga Navalar's booklet, The Abolition of the Abuse of Saivism (1868), you'll see how similar these religions really are. Navalar wrote the booklet as a response to the abuses that were imposed on the Indian people by missionaries during the time of Great Britain's brutal colonization. To refute these attacks and abuses, Navalar used his extensive knowledge of the books that compose the Old Testament to show how similar the stories were to his own religion of Saivism (worship of Shiva). And it worked. Many people in the west have no idea what Hinduism is about. It is a closed off religion, much like Judaism. And like Judaism, Hinduism has stood the test of time.
it's weird, just like there are ZERO historical mentions of Bilbo Baggins before 1937 even though middle earth existed thousands of years ago. Not a single damn mention....
Perhaps not, but I do know the secrets of the 9 rings, the 7 rings, the 3 rings, and the circle of the Zodiac is the actual one ring to rule them all. These together the key to the bottomless pit, and Apollo the sun God is named destroyer every 12,000 years. The Locusts are symbolic and astrological references to the Zodiac, and potentially the Mushushu assossciated with the God Marduk.
Moses was thrown in a basket down the river, grew up to become powerful.... Dead Sea scrolls are oldest Hebrew writings, around 250 BCE... Sargon of Akkad was thrown in a basket down the river, and grew up to become powerful... Sargon lived 2450 BCE Romulus and Remus, founder twins of Rome, were thrown in a basket down the river, and grew up to build Rome.... Myth is at least verified as old as the start of the Republic 509 BCE This alone makes it clear the Moses story is plagiarized and made up
@@Nowandlater-b8x Abraham, Moses Exodus, David, Solomon, the united monarchy, the 1-st temple never existed. The entire "jewish history"is a forgery. There were no Israelites or jews before invention of"jewish people" by Flavius Josephus at the end of the 1-st century CE
@@anthonyoer4778 yes they did the Ancient Egyptians recorded how the Hyksos conquered them for over a 100 years, they recorded the Assyrian and Persian conquest at the temple of karnak , plus this so called exodus wasn't just a military defeat, it was supposed to be a miracle from God in real life , to suggest if all the events happened in the The book of Exodus where real and not 1 person from Ancient Egypt recorded this down is nonsense
Not a single superpower has Exodus recorded as Israelites walked with a column of fire at night that you can see with a naked eye 200 miles away. Not one hunter could follow one million unathletic Jews taking a crap daily in the Sinai?
Actually there is substantial evidence for the ark and evidence for a world wide flood ALL OVER the world. You're only proving you care nothing of evidence and just simply don't want to believe the Bible even though it is hands down the most reliable historical record known to man based on the manuscript and archeological evidence.
Well the ark has been found and the great flood is the most well documented event of all time with every ancient culture having a flood story. Look up Ron Wyatt finds Noah's ark. He also found and verifies many other events and places from the bible. Like Sodom and Gomorrah, the red sea crossing and many others.
But those authors don't care what you🫵🏻 believe and neither do those who believe in biblical scriptures - Moses existed - amongst other things that you🫵🏻 dismiss. The rejection of Scripture hasn't been an unknown future event for a very long time now. It is going to happen. We know what's coming within every year that times get worse - and times shall worsen moreso as unbelievers get their deepest held wishes granted by way of anti-godliness methodologies. The road to salvation is narrow and many👈🏻 shall 👉🏻not find it. The Bible will outlive even this. 🙂↔️
The 12 zodiac signs became the 12 Tribes of Israel (god is the phallus). The seven years of building the Temple of God = 7 zodiac signs. The thirteen years of building the palace of the sun = 28 lunar days x 13 = one solar year.
Yep. It is very ancient going back to the Hunter Gatherer "Astronomy Consciousness" displayed on Panel 43 at Gobekli Tepe. 7,000 years later it all starts to be encoded into the Astro-Theology of "World Age Passage Archetypal Eternal Return" into the Priestly Religions of the Levant. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Starting to put this all together goes back to the 1969 book "Hamlet's Mill" and Vera W. Reid's 1946 book "Towards Aquarius" written during the Blitz in London during WWII. Excellent work here Derek Lambert in starting to lay out the threads of the Hellenistic fusion after Alexander the Great! I am hard at work on my own book with four years of intensive research in. It is all fascinating on a psychological level. The work of C.G. Jung is alive and well! Especially with the entire current "State of Israel" now facing total social and economic collapse within a year because of the Right Wing Suicide of the Nation in and Endless completely Unwinnable War of Attrition. May everyone live in very interesting times ...
They are the PRINCIPALITIES Jesus spoke of. The embodiments of aspects of consciousness. Desire, Lust, Greed, All taking different forms to convince those of certain faiths but they're no Gods, simply embodiment entities to dissuade you from the real GOD and seduce you with desires.
These videos are so good, because they help to remind us, again and again, that the Bible did not come to us in a full-blown unit. That over the centuries there have been many many different manuscripts, legends, and stories, and random pieces of them found, that eventually someone rummaged through and decided ( for reasons of his own) to staple some of them together into a unit, to "create" a history and a hope, for a certain group of people.
You are correct! Early Judaism needed an "origin story" and they concocted a doozy of a story I will give them that! 🤣But think about this: the Jews are Yahweh's "Chosen People" yet flash forward to 1938 - 1945 Europe and about 6,000,000 Jews later Yahweh is nowhere to be found! 🤨Maybe just like Jesus, Yahweh went out for cigarettes and never came back. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I guess!
@@discontinuedmodel232 yes and the other 6 million of those the Nazis killed as being "inferior" to their pure sensibilities including homosexuals, psychopaths, the infirm, the chronically ill, socialists, atheists etc.
A. Humans are "hard wired" to look for patterns (the main reason why every Civilization makes up figures of humans and monsters when they look at the stars in the night sky). B. Human nature tends toward “magical thinking,” i.e., it worked for maybe it will eork for me if I do the same thing." C. Humans need artificial constructs like Law (religious and otherwise) to even get along as individual groups, i.e., the Laws of Moses and the US Constitution are examples of Rules that people MUST HAVE to live in an Orderly Society. (Even the stories of the American Founding Fathers are, to some extent, Fiction. And, that too is a normal part of Human Nature. C. During most of the :"history" discussed here comes out of Oral Tradition...Writing had Not yet been Invented. Get It?!? D. So, I have no problem with most of the facts presented here. E. But, Judgment, on the origins of those facts will ALWAYS depend on WHO YOU ASK. And that is why we have so many Doctors, Lawyers, Rabbis and Clergymen.
Some religions have better PR departments than others. When coupled with an effective accounting, and acquisitions departments, that’s a world winning combo.
Yeah, xtian apologia still dominates, though probably not for long. Besides the earliest writings failing to so much as hint at any earthly existence, heaps of late forgeries demonstrate that (1) even in the 2nd century no legitimate evidence "for" could be found, and that (2) early xtians recognized it as a serious problem demanding a remedy. The remedy chosen was the usual.
It kinda does make perfect sense that if a group of Jewish scholars had become fascinated with Greek stories and something like The Odyssey, they might want to try and wrote their own version of "a story from our history." And Moses' story certainly does carry with it a hefty atmosphere of being a Greek tragedy.
@@benmiller537 Matthew 26 53 proves who's author and Messiah,Titus can't be denied, there's lots of proof in scripture,look up Hebrew is Greek by Joseph Yahuda he'll show you proof that Hebrew and Aramaic came from the Greek language Israelites were Greek Hebrews were Asian Greeks.
The beginning of the story tho is very much Mesopotamian in origin. The whole thing about a baby being sent down a river in a reed basket to be adopted to nobles/royals is straight from the legend of Sargon the Great - founder of the Akkadian empire. Given the Akkadian empire once stretched all the way to Canaan it should surprise no one that these legends persisted over the centuries and were retconned for local geography and culture.
Between this channel and Mindshift, I’ve been able to finally put my religious indoctrination into perspective and it’s made letting all of this go so much easier!❤
Same for me !! I just cannot find enough confidence to Tell my family. I still love them but i know when i Will tell them im atheist i Will no longer be part of family
History itself is just another layer of self interested mythology. The truth is that high civilization seem to rise and fall regularly and we are just the latest iteration. We repurpose the past as accomplishments, we reuse the stonework, we melt down the metals, we built a narrative build around putting ourselves at the story’s apex.
Congratulations for getting out. It takes serious strength. I got out 3yrs ago after 20yrs in the crap 🥳🥳 I highly recommend Kristi Burke on UA-cam and I blame Bill on tiktok. Phenomenonal ex Christian contact. They walked me through my deconstruction.. It gets easier and it's soooooooo worth it!! Now go live your best life, you are free 💃🤩🙌✨
Thankyou so much for what you do.. Christianity gave me two chronic mental illnesses.. My heart breaks for the children raised in it.. Sending love and solidarity 💜✨
I had no idea Plato said that about the ideal nation being formed of 12 tribes. Man. Just when I think I know everything, you throw something new at me 😂
12 was what many cultures used to base their mathematics around. This continues today. 12 inches in a foot. 12 men make a squad. It's been a great way to add, subtract, divide, and multiply a unit for measurement.
On a lighter note: When was motor racing first mentioned in the bible? When Moses came fourth in his Triumph, of course. And drugs? When he came down from the mountain with two tablets. Tennis? When he served in the courts of Pharaoh. Etc.
@LaoZi2023 the two tablets are on each 5 principles of relationship. Only the initiated sage has been in the void, and knows not to write about that relationship ❤. All should experience it. 💜
@@LaoZi2023 The lost 5 : "Thou shalt not count pigs in a Thursday." "Thou shalt keep the Feast of Wheeks" (as in, invite guinea pigs to the feast). "Thou shalt not seethe when a kid drinks milk." "Thou shalt not allow the prophet to make a profit." "Thou shalt floss regularly."
Islam is a derivative of early Christianity highly influenced by Arabic folklore and myth in the peninsula. As Christianity itself is a derivative of Judaism it should surprise no one that Islam contains an abundance of influences from its predecessors.
@mnomadvfx Tell me you don't understand Islam without telling me. Many prophets were mentioned as references to tell their story to Prophet Muhammad PBUH. The problem with people like you is that they ignore what was said of any of the Prophet and stick to their shallow knowledge. The whole message of Islam is that From Adam to Prophet Muhammad PBUH were all sent by God. The rest to their people while the Latter to humanity in general. There are 25 mentioned Prophet but there are thousands of messengers sent as well. Christianity and other religions were only a break of from the actual message of unity from their Prophets. It is only ignorant to claim Islam was copied from the torah or bible. 😅😅
All the tre monoistic religions are based on old myths - and the jews got the idea from the Persian idea of Zoroaster / Ahura Mazda. The worst is the way thetbit has wiped out the feminine part of life and history. In that way it has created unbalance- and we still suffer of that unbalance.. and Islam have a even longer way to go to upright the unbalance
@@apachekafka773really? It shows that people are selective in what they want to know about history….. just a bit here do you know that the word Adam means humans, not only males? A religion who only considers males as humans is really time to throw away. Dominance and conflict don’t help none of us - so let go of it!
I truly wish the content of this channel had been taught in schools Fifty years ago! It would have saved me decades of mental anguish and fear of the unknown. Thank you ever so much!
@@Tiredofitall. Try teaching Darwin and truth in red states. No GOP primary candidate raised their hand when asked if they would make evolution a school standard. Creationists are at least a 3rd of the country and 60% believe Noah was real.
I wonder if after the collapse of the current civilization and subsequent rise of the new one millennia from now, if they will look at the ruins of King's Cross Train Station and London City and the remnants of the Christ Church College Dining Hall at Oxford and decide that The Harry Potter Chronicles were historical facts???
@@redflag4255 ... only for the minor minority of the very few rational ones... the rest of humanity will continue to believe it and wrangle over it until the next collapse of civilization... until the sun decides it had enough of that.
@@redflag4255 ... only few will figure it out... the rest will continue to believe it until the next cycle of collapse of civilization... well... at least until the sun has had enough.
Oedipus and Moses. Both sent off as infants because the king wanted to "harm" them. Both were raised by royalty, not knowing their true origins. Both were named after how they were found as infants. Both interact with a mysterious being in the wilderness. Sphinx, burning bush.Both involved a sort of riddle.... The parallels are too much to ignore
there are thousands of years of history of the egyptians and masopotamian tribes, this was done frequently in that history. Seeing two stories that are familiar doesnt make them false. Think of modern times, would you discount a story of one family only because other families have done the same?
@@GiIgasmash These aren't stories my neighbors are telling of their grandparents. This is just one example of literary borrowing among many in the Septuigent.
The "Man"lifted from the waters (southern hemisphere) is Aquarius. It was Zeus, as the Eagle (Aquila) who carried Aquarius to the top of the mountain. One of the many names of the man with the water pitcher is Ganymede.
You might catch this number ten, in the fairy tale bible. The scorpion is probably pissed about the removal of his claws to become the Libra constellation. See Rev. 9.5, where Scorpio is the leader of Sagittarius thru Pisces.
No, the fifth and sixth months were _renamed_ as July and August. That's why August is followed by the seventh month. It was January and February that were added. That's why it's February that is the short month.
And keep in mind if one is untrue, so are all the other religions that follow it... the character Jesus comes to mind...if he follows the same way as Moses, then the knock on effect is also true to the same tune.
You're watching closely? Can you see me when I'm sleeping and do you know when I'm awake, do you know when I've been bad or good? On a serious note your content has really improved over time.
@@MythVisionPodcast Watching closely 🙄,and you still can't figure the truth can you,or there's no filthy lucre in the truth.Titus and Vespasian were Osiris and Horus Serapis Chrestus,you know damn well they were Chrestians until the 6th Century AD,but you keep preaching lies don't you,you know damn well God's Saints are Greek so to the biggest of fools there's only one correct Bible,that being the Greek Septuagint, All scripture is God breathed meaning written by God,and there's so much proof it's Titus,yet you still play dumb to that?, are you a Mason or something, can't join them unless you realise the Soul is immortal,selling it obviously,then that would explain everything,Neal is the same,The Deadly Duo,no pun intended 😂.
There is one important trace in the Pentateuch in favour of the Exodus story having a grain of real history in it. It's the prevalence of Egyptian names in the story of Exodus. Aaron, Moses, Merari, Miriam… and more, they're all Egyptian names. So Exodus is a story of "Egyptianized Canaanites" returning to Canaan after centuries of absence. The closest we find in Egyptian historiography is the expulsion of the Hyksos by Ahmose I around 1550 BCE.
@@gwynedd1 Not really, it goes deeper than that. People tend to use the names of their culture and language. The Egyptian names being used in the Hebrew Bible strongly indicates a deep Egyptian link. After all, Moses is called Moses not...some random name that was actually Hebrew. Unless of course Moses, Aaron etc were Egyptian names so embedded in the Hebrew culture of the time they didnt even consider them foreign. I can't remember the Pharaoh, there was/is a Great Courses course (lol) on Egypt that is free on Audible (at least is was free a few months ago when i listened to it). There is some evidence (according to the actual professor of Egyptology who did the course) that the Pharoah at the time the Hyksos/proto israelites left Egypt did indeed lose his Firstborn Son. So there is that little connecting nugget also. Bear in mind that Egypt were not the good guys. They were raiders and asskickers. They had been the big boys on the block for millenia. Given the antagonism between Egypt and Canaan/Israel etc, why would they choose to use Egyptian naming conventions? There are not many young Adolfs around outside of Germany these days are there? Unless of course the Egyptian language was deeply embedded in their own culture, for some reason.....
Actually, the Harris Papyrus hints at the proto-Moses story. A rebel called Su united the outcast in PI-Ramses and used mercenaries from Canaan to fight Pharaoh. He paid them by looting Temples. (Melting of the golden calf). But he lost and had to flee north with all his followers.
"Holy Moses, I have been deceived, Now the wind has changed direction, and I'll have to leave. Won't you please excuse my frankness, But it's not my cup of tea. Holy Moses, I have been deceived." -- Elton John and Bernie Taupin
Fascinating. I did a paper on Manetho's account of the Exodus in grad school, but it never occurred to me that the Exodus account could be based on Manetho!
The truth is never in plain sight, it’s always manipulated and deceive by the limitations of our comprehension. Albert Einstein said there’s 9 levels of reality and we only inhabit 3 of them. To assume we have the capability of understanding the complexities of our existence is not only ignorant but self righteous and egomaniacal. Your problem is you think we are way more evolved than we are.
I think i finally figured it out. Everyone is lying and nobody actually knows what's going on or happened in the past because, everyone was lying back then too.
This was extremely thought-provoking and very well done. I especially appreciated that you put much of this presentation into text on the screen bc that gave me the chance to either pause and read it or take a screenshot of it and paste it into a powerpoint so i can further process and reread it. I also liked Weinfeld's comments that much of Biblical literature has parallels with the ANE but that the national origin stories really don't begin until the Hellenistic period which lends additional weight to believing that the Pentateuch may have been much later than we thought. Good stuff. Consider my mind BLOWN.
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Some scholars have noted that there are many "Moses" like figures in the mythology of many of the surrounding older cultures, as are most if not all of the stories in the 'old testament' of the bible.
I think it's safe to say that a base 12 counting system was standard in ancient days. For the reason we still use the dozen. Base 12 is the most intuitive system. Bankers used it te quickly and accurately estimate, before computers, while you were counting on your fingers. Fundamental terms seem to be lifted straight out of Egypt. This seems to come more from understanding (of language) than from (distant) memory. I'm pretty convinced that Moses refers to the name of the pharaoh's name, as many aspects of that royal court seem to be projected. That's difficult to equate with very late dates.
Sexagesimal, also known as base 60, is a numeral system with sixty as its base. It originated with the ancient Sumerians in the 3rd millennium BC, was passed down to the ancient Babylonians, and is still used-in a modified form-for measuring time, angles, and geographic coordinates. The number 60, a superior highly composite number, has twelve divisors, namely 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60, of which 2, 3, and 5 are prime numbers.
Not really. The majority like stories rather than philosophy, the plebeians loved the mythos of heroes and villains, giants and monsters. They just inserted political ideology into the stories. Our story tellers / leaders (priests) carry the “blessings of the God’s - they have inherited godliness…pay your entry fee and BE part of the story….praise us and become closer to your heroes” It’s Fandom, like following Star Wars or Marvel….
Myth can be a motivating force to build a next generation Torah=Instruction Could that be the point? Cultural , Guidebook, Law, Origin all things needed to move forward. Harvard, Yale, Colombia all found on biblical teachings until Horace Mann was sent to Prussia after that we copied their Degrees and grading systems
The Hyksos pharaohs etc mummies of Tutankhamun had red blonde hair and the DNA of TODAY'S NW EUROPE where the lost 10 tribes ended up... Hyksos royalty if not general population weren't Semitic.....
Does not the laws contributed to Moses condemn the Israelites from going into someone else’s land and murder, steal, and taken it over? For is that not what they did.
I'm happily surprised. This is the best documentary from Derek I've heard. Keep this style up. Words were pronounced correctly. Voice modulation was on point. Well done.
I think it is likely that there is not 1 single history of the Jewish people, but the progressive merging of histories and myths of the various tribes, groups and peoples who over time merged, separated, conquered and reserved to become what evolved into the Jewish people.
What I have heard is that the group of people released from Babylonian slavery by the Persians wasn’t a homogeneous group, but a mixed group of former slaves that was allowed to settle in and around Jerusalem.
See the work of Robert Graves for the parallels between the Hellenistic and Abrahamic traditions: “The Greek Myths” and “The White Goddess” in particular.
The number 12 idea comes from the zodiac which has been intertwined with ancient mythology. Within the Hyksos there were people that went by the name "Shasu", these in turn were made of other groups, one of them were the Midianites. The Midianites were said to have come from the land of YHW. Believed to be the followers of the Abraham god. So, it is very possible that this story is true.
Good point. The bible is full of astrology. The Old Testament is about the Age of Aries, which is why we have so many references to rams, lambs, sheep and the blowing of the shofar.
Rather, the zodiac comes from the number 12, the number of months in a year. Obsession with 12 does not imply any astrology. You need actual evidence for the latter, wholly lacking in Judaism.
I think that the term shepherd may have been sometimes referring to astrology/religion, rather than herding sheep. Followers of religious thought and worship symbolized by Aries might have been deemed shepherds. In contrast, those whose theology was linked to Taurus or Pisces might have been identified as cowherds or fisherman respectively. In astronomical terms, Jesus was born at a time of the declension of the constellation Aries and the rise of the constellation Pisces and thus was both the good shepherd and a fisher of men. The Christian symbol of the fish might have been a shorthand for illiterate believers that the religion represented a new way of religious thought for a new age. It is easy to forget that the movement of the stars in the sky was one thought to be intimately linked to events on earth and that people absolutely believed that the stars could control their fates.
I love moses as a kid ... never understood until adult that he raided towns for a tyrant god . I knew something was off especially punishment by snake bites when they whined being thirsty in a desert climate.. the result ,, make an idol of bronze serpent 🐍 to stare at at the bites will stop( magic )
@kellydalstok8900 the bible was written In a room full of greedy men . 40 years in the wilderness ( Israel) 40 days and nights ( Christian) 40 days around the world ( Islam) your abrahmic branch is fake, 40 is paying homage to enki rank #40 .. I am an annunaki god of records . Please only challenge if your into ancient gods older than the bible
The idea that the bible is historical fact and we cannot question it is bothersome. I will not accept any religion without acceptance by modern archeology but do acknowledge a moral responsibility towards others with or without a god.
It is probable that a percentage of the stories in the Bible are fictionalised versions of actual events, but extremely unlikely that any of them are actual true stories.
the jewish writings only show up after the library of alexandria burned...they clearly borrowed their history and myths from multiple sources such as the Sumerian/Akkadian/Persian/Greek/Roman/Egyptian/Canaanite histories and myths....Moses is obviously an Eqyptian story that was mythicized...all gathered at the Library of Alexandria just before it was lost and then the Torah shows up
king arthur was created by a book writer and story teller in the 1100s, moses is a story dating back 4000 years told by religious leaders. Comparing the two shows the foolishness and emotional attachment you have to denying religion and casting as much shade on it as you can. Try being more objective if you want people to care what you have to say.
@@GiIgasmash The story of Moses was invented and written by scribes during the Babylonian captivity in the 6th century BCE. It might have drawn on the oral traditions passed (and distorted) over the Millennium that separated the claimed events and the writers. In this respect it's no different from the story of King Arthur.
This might be your best one yet! Fascinating stuff. I was aware of Russel Gmirkin via MythVision but you have added much and clarified things considerably. Respect.
Im five month off methadone today and 6 years off heroin. Im also 10 years free of Religion and trying to just find answers in general to life. Maybe thats my problem 😂 Hope you and the family are well 👍 Edited. Isnt it ironic that the most well known person ever, might not of even existed.... Jesus 😂😂
The song of Deborah is acknowladged by scholars including Finkkestein to have been written during the time if the judges. See Judges 5:2-21 to read the account.
It's weird and off putting that such a bloodthirsty, dyssocial and genocidal mythical character as Moses is seen as a huge hero in 3 major religions. Numbers 31: 13-21 is kind of a horror story, where Moses orders the killing of even captive women and their male infants - and letting the soldiers take the young girls "for themselves" after having killed the rest of their families - while irrationally blaming their people for a plague. And there is also Exodus 32: 27-29 where Moses commands the Levites among his people to kill their own close family members and neighbours because of religious differences. According to the story he wanted them dead because they believed in and worshipped another God (aka the golden calf), and thus made Moses and his fellow believers and followers "a laughing stock to their enemies''. And after the massacre Moses praised them and said they are blessed for having killed their own brothers and sons
It is weird. When you read the bible with a fresh pair of eyes and see how barbaric it is, especially the Old Testament, it's hard to believe that people still think it is true. The golden calf you mention, is supposed to do with the Age of Taurus. Moses didn't want his followers to worship their old gods or Elohim. He wanted them to focus on Yahweh only in the new Age of Aries. This is why there is so emphasis on rams, lambs, sheep and the blowing of the shofar.
I really thank you and Neal for blowing the lid of all this. Indeed I am a believer and believe that Yeshua "happened" to be born under Jewish influence and also that his teaching was a universal message to all, delivered within and to his own culture, as we all are born into a culture.At that point every culture that heard of him or his followers began to include him in their lineage....from philosophers, to Jews, to sex cults. Yeshua imo was the pinnacle not of "just" the Jewish faith but of all the worlds faiths. A teacher at the least, a divine composite being in spirit as well with a message to us all. The divine is within us. You and Neal are responsible for letting the world know, there is more truth to Christianity and all faiths than the Bible and more truth for Christians than the mainstream line. Mystics have known this for thousands and imo Christ came to teach it, to free humanity with a message so powerful, governments and hierarchies and even followers, scurried to capitalize on it. Peace. Funny thing is...You and Neal by revealing and adhering to the truth...are more Christian than some "Christians" and would be in company perhaps in the circle of truth that Yeshua led. Amazing scholarship! keep it up!
If Aaron is the brother of Moses...from which family did he come? Was he from Mose's biological family? If so, how did Moses and Aaron reunite? Or was Aaron from the family of the pharaoh? If so, why would Aaron have any allegiance to the Hebrew God and why would he go against his family? Or was their brotherhood a novel union from their religious covenant with YHWH?
And why did Aaron not get put into a basket of rushes and sent down the river guarded by Miriam? The Egyptians just allowed him to have a normal childhood?
It was portrayed as if he & Miriam were Moses' biological younger siblings & the Egyptians just randomly chose to kill all the male babies, once, just to stick it to the slaves, so Aaron would have been born after this.
i’ve been doing some cursory reading recently on this. My conclusion to the documentary is “eh, don’t buy it.” i’ve become convinced that: 1. manetho’s description of amenophis and osarseph is a garbled understanding of merneptah, seti ll, and amenmesse. 2. Moses didn’t originally mean “drawn from water,” but “son of,” which follows Papyrus Salt 124 (around 1176 BCE) in ascribing the name Msy (Moses) to amenmesse. 3. The royal name of tausret was sitre meryamun. As with amenmesse, if you drop amun from “meryamun” (beloved of amun) you are left with Miriam (beloved). 4. setnakhte’s year 2 elephantine stela uses the exact language manetho used in his description of the expelling of “hyksos” (an anachronistic term to describe canaanites in general). Also, one could easily imagine the “irsu” allied with tausret being the same person as amenmesse (to my knowledge we have no indication that amenmesse was killed by seti ll). 5. The greek translation of Exodus was working from a hebrew original established centuries prior. Taken altogether, the Exodus tradition was an early Iron Age reflection on the fall of the bronze age that was textually reappropriated to the context of jeroboam l, rehoboam, and shoshenq l and subsequently redacted up until its greek translation.
I cant describe in few words, if any amount, how much I enjoy these videos. And this man is not a BS'er: IN THAT when I look for peer reviewed, scholarly sources to back what MythVision Pod says, its exonerated.
You know, there is no shortage of contradictory evidence against whatever it might be, where, here, it's belief in God. One thing, however, that I know, for sure, is that once when I prayed, in ernest, I immediately received a positive answer. I know we can poke holes in reasons for believing all day every day. But then what? How do we explain answered prayers?
Alexander introduced Greek culture, literature and philosophy to the near east ancient civilizations which alongside Egypt are the place where most of Greek philosophy, literature and culture was based on and heavily influenced.
@@andrewsuryali8540 only a jealous can say something like that. If they was Jewish ,it would never be that kind of energy from the start.. That’s a whole miracle
Minor script/narrative correction: "...even if absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence..." (well, it is). Better: "...absence of evidence isn't *proof* of absence..."
Josephus wrote stuff about Moses that isn't in the Bible, he spoke about a military campaign Moses led south of Egypt and that a statue was erected after his victory, some years ago the base of a statue was found by archaeologists in that same place, which is interesting. Josephus said that he got his information in Antiques from texts that he was allowed to take from the Temples library after the conquest of Jerusalem.
@@misslayer999 Awesome! There's a great book I'd recommend called Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, that goes into the link between Hinduism and Judaism. Many of the Vedic stories mirror the Old Testament stories, and as I mentioned, it is believed that the Brahmans (chosen caste) created Judaism. In fact, the story of Abraham and Sarah came from the story of Brahma and Saraswati. Voltaire echoed this claim in Ezourvedam in 1760 stating that not only were Brahma and Abraham the same, but that all religions originally came out of India, the cradle of civilization. But it was really Megasthenes who clued us into who the Jews really were and where they originally came from. Megasthenes, an Ionian from Asia Minor, and contemporary of Seleucus Nicator, was charged with several embassies to India, where he spent a number of years between 302 and 288 BCE. His book Indica was one of the chief sources of knowledge about India in the Hellenistic era. He was the first to write about the connection between Judaism and Indian philosophers calling them Calanoi or Ioudaioi in Syria. Aristotle also spoke about them saying that the "Jews are descended (apogonoi) from the Indian philosophers." And Flavius Josephus quotes a passage from Clearchus' Dialogue on Dreams, which recounts what Aristotle said. And if you can get your hands on a copy of Arumuga Navalar's booklet, The Abolition of the Abuse of Saivism (1868), you'll see how similar these religions really are. Navalar wrote the booklet as a response to the abuses that were imposed on the Indian people by missionaries during the time of Great Britain's brutal colonization. To refute these attacks and abuses, Navalar used his extensive knowledge of the books that compose the Old Testament to show how similar the stories were to his own religion of Saivism (worship of Shiva). And it worked. Many people in the west have no idea what Hinduism is about. It is a closed off religion, much like Judaism. And like Judaism, Hinduism has stood the test of time.
@@misslayer999 I tried to leave a comment, but YT keeps deleting it. So, I'll shorten my response, and hope it sticks! Megasthenes was the first to write about the Indian/Jewish connection around 300 B.C., Aristotle also wrote about it, and Flavius Josephus quoted Aristotle on the matter. Even Voltaire wrote about in 1760, stating that the biblical Abraham and Sarah were actually Brahma and Saraswati. There are some books on the topic, like Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, or Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence by Stephen Knapp.
I read the old testament 2 times. Moses started out being Egyptian because of the Egyptian who found him and raised him we don't know about his younger years what he did before taking the people out of Egypt. Moses took the people on that long journey and I took issue with Moses handling of the people that were with him and how he and his worriers killed a lot of those other tribes or villagers that they came across while traveling. Interesting how the ones following would bring their offerings to Moses, then his people in charge would cook it in a frying pan and they would take the best part and give the rest back to those that brought it. The words were interesting how Moses and the tribes that were with him, some took issue with Moses and would complain and then he say let the Ark figure it out, it would come out of the tent and kill them, looks like it was a weapon, it caused an earthquake, fire came out of it, and it spread poisonous gas, that Aron his brother had the antidote for, Moses said, take your incense, the antidote, run around less we lose them all. Moses could command the Ark with his voice. After Moses died the people put it in a cart, no one could command it anymore.
Moses was "gathered unto his people" (Num. 31.2), i.e., leaving the Sun, "he went and returned, and dwelt" with the Sun - he completed the circle of the zodiac, or year. Having thus looked upon the Promised Land (summer), Moses died, and buried himself in a valley in the land of Moab (water-father = Aquarius = Moses), "but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day" (Deut. 34.6). Although one hundred and twenty years old, " his eyes," it is said, " were not dim (his stars shine as brightly now as they did then), nor his natural force abated (the rainy season still comes on every year) " However, the people wept thirty days, i.e., during the passage of the Sun through Aquarius, the Wash-pot (Ps 60.8), or the rainy month of January.
You did Neal wrong. He was justified with what he said about McClellan. I also don't like your creepy psuedo psychoanalysis you did to Neal about him being a "hey hey" New Yorker. Dan set himself up as the guy calling "balls and strikes". When you do that you need to be open to criticism. Nothing Neal said was false. Idk why you shill for Dan so hard. Oh and saying "why don't you go after Ammon too?" IS a childish argument.
I suppose it’s a relief knowing that the genocidal barbarism inflicted on the original inhabitants of Judea on the authority of Moses and Joshua never actually happened.
2 Corinthians 3:3 God doesn't write in stone. (Moses might have fibbed) Doesn't match other times god appears to Adam, Noah, Lot... everyone in person, with their message. John 5:45, John 6:32, Matthew 16:12 Moses gave you NOT the true bread from heaven, bread is doctrine.
I've often wondered about a similar Greek myth about Perseus: As an infant, he was cast into the sea in a chest (not a basket in a river but similar) with his mother by Acrisius because the old dude thought the baby would grow up and kill him. It isn't the same story, but a similar story with many similar elements that would have been well-known as a typical Greek story.
With less than 1% of ancient documents surviving. It is not surprising nothing extra-biblical relating to a minor people of a minor nation’s history mention anything of an individual from pre-collapse, roughly 1177 BC.
More on the "hero-exposure" tradition, on most of those myths, the person hostile to the child, which is a reigning figure in most of the cases, learns via a prophecy that the child/future child will cause his downfall, reason why he tries to kill the child, who is hidden, and eventually grows up and finally accomplishes the prohecy... it's even the story of Zeus... and, to some extent, the "slaughter of the innocents" in the New Testament is also a reflexe of this tradition.
@@matane2465 Yes they did. In fact they would chip out the names of individuals who they did not like from their statues. We have only tatters of Egyptian history.
On a very serious note I don't know how to explain this but my sub-tribe (Meru community) in kenya has a similar ancient story, i think the story might be literal from oral submissions we got from them bt not in a scale as explained in the bible
Moses was based on a man named Irsu of the Shasu tribe. The Shasu and Hyksos joined forces and invaded Goshen. Some scholars believe Hyksos was anyone from the Levant region to Egyptians.
Once you started promoting Bart Erhman's stuff, then i tuned out your video. If your calculation engine decides to promote that wacko, then what else if your calculation engine deciding?!
It's probably futile on my part, but I wish Derek would stop reifying old biases, in this case opening this video with "THE OLD Testament". It's anachronistic to even use that phrase for early Christians who read the Hebrew Scriptures.
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There is a book called "Moses in Ancient Egypt, the Hidden Story of the Bible," That equates him with Prince Ramose, and Hebrew history about a military commander that marries the Princess of Nubia. Indeed, my Research links Adam with the Egyptian God Geb, the Canaanite El, and that makes Cain and Seth the same person, and their two bloodlines are also the same. Thanks for showing me additional evidence they are the cult of Set. As RA mose, an aspect of Moses is the Prince of RA. Moses has a new song to sing, apparently.
They also discovered Santa Claus sledge in the North Pole 😂😂😂😂😂smh
Bart Ehrman is simply someone who makes a living supporting lies. 😢
pure bullshit
There's a great book I'd recommend called Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, that goes into the link between Hinduism and Judaism. Many of the Vedic stories mirror the Old Testament stories, and it is believed that the Brahmans (chosen caste) created Judaism. In fact, the story of Abraham and Sarah came from the story of Brahma and Saraswati. Voltaire echoed this claim in Ezourvedam in 1760 stating that not only were Brahma and Abraham the same, but that all religions originally came out of India, the cradle of civilization. But it was really Megasthenes who clued us into who the Jews really were and where they originally came from. Megasthenes, an Ionian from Asia Minor, and contemporary of Seleucus Nicator, was charged with several embassies to India, where he spent a number of years between 302 and 288 BCE. His book Indica was one of the chief sources of knowledge about India in the Hellenistic era. He was the first to write about the connection between Judaism and Indian philosophers calling them Calanoi or Ioudaioi in Syria. Aristotle also spoke about them saying that the "Jews are descended (apogonoi) from the Indian philosophers." And Flavius Josephus quotes a passage from Clearchus' Dialogue on Dreams, which recounts what Aristotle said.
And if you can get your hands on a copy of Arumuga Navalar's booklet, The Abolition of the Abuse of Saivism (1868), you'll see how similar these religions really are. Navalar wrote the booklet as a response to the abuses that were imposed on the Indian people by missionaries during the time of Great Britain's brutal colonization. To refute these attacks and abuses, Navalar used his extensive knowledge of the books that compose the Old Testament to show how similar the stories were to his own religion of Saivism (worship of Shiva). And it worked. Many people in the west have no idea what Hinduism is about. It is a closed off religion, much like Judaism. And like Judaism, Hinduism has stood the test of time.
it's weird, just like there are ZERO historical mentions of Bilbo Baggins before 1937 even though middle earth existed thousands of years ago. Not a single damn mention....
How dare you.
Bilbo was REAL.
Wrong, you never studied the different versions of homosapien that gave lord of the rings there content 😂
Once you get the ring your doomed no matter how tight you hold onto it
Perhaps not, but I do know the secrets of the 9 rings, the 7 rings, the 3 rings, and the circle of the Zodiac is the actual one ring to rule them all. These together the key to the bottomless pit, and Apollo the sun God is named destroyer every 12,000 years. The Locusts are symbolic and astrological references to the Zodiac, and potentially the Mushushu assossciated with the God Marduk.
@@EmeraldEyesBibleSecrets it's nice to meet another god of wisdom 🙏
Moses was thrown in a basket down the river, grew up to become powerful.... Dead Sea scrolls are oldest Hebrew writings, around 250 BCE...
Sargon of Akkad was thrown in a basket down the river, and grew up to become powerful... Sargon lived 2450 BCE
Romulus and Remus, founder twins of Rome, were thrown in a basket down the river, and grew up to build Rome.... Myth is at least verified as old as the start of the Republic 509 BCE
This alone makes it clear the Moses story is plagiarized and made up
and Sargon is Nimrod
Sumerians had a flood and a ship of survivors 1000s of years before Noah.
There is no "ancient Hebrew" but Phopenician.
Modern hebrew was invented in the 19-th century C.E based on Aramaic and phoenician
Moses was black
@@Nowandlater-b8x Abraham, Moses Exodus, David, Solomon, the united monarchy, the 1-st temple never existed.
The entire "jewish history"is a forgery. There were no Israelites or jews before invention of"jewish people" by Flavius Josephus at the end of the 1-st century CE
So a Pharaoh and his whole army was took out by moses calling god to part the red sea ,and the Ancient Egyptians never mentioned this once 😂😂😂😂
No ancient peoples mention their defeats. Even phyrric victories like Megido are triumphant.
@@anthonyoer4778 yes they did the Ancient Egyptians recorded how the Hyksos conquered them for over a 100 years, they recorded the Assyrian and Persian conquest at the temple of karnak , plus this so called exodus wasn't just a military defeat, it was supposed to be a miracle from God in real life , to suggest if all the events happened in the The book of Exodus where real and not 1 person from Ancient Egypt recorded this down is nonsense
@@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew”Mic Drop.”👋🏿👋🏿👋🏿
@Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew really?
What battle did the hyksos defeat the Egyptians? The Egyptians only talk about driving out the foreigners.
Not a single superpower has Exodus recorded as Israelites walked with a column of fire at night that you can see with a naked eye 200 miles away.
Not one hunter could follow one million unathletic Jews taking a crap daily in the Sinai?
Noah's arc was my favorite story as a child now its my favorite proof that every thing from religion is pure imagination
Ironically one of the more proven stories. That story predates Christianity and Rome and so on
@@keanodaley512 - No proof whatsoever. In fact, mountains of data against. The tale dates from the Jewish enslavement in ancient Syria.
Actually there is substantial evidence for the ark and evidence for a world wide flood ALL OVER the world. You're only proving you care nothing of evidence and just simply don't want to believe the Bible even though it is hands down the most reliable historical record known to man based on the manuscript and archeological evidence.
Well the ark has been found and the great flood is the most well documented event of all time with every ancient culture having a flood story. Look up Ron Wyatt finds Noah's ark. He also found and verifies many other events and places from the bible. Like Sodom and Gomorrah, the red sea crossing and many others.
False
The only problem I see here is that the authors of the bible, never thought they would get fact checked.
But those authors don't care what you🫵🏻 believe and neither do those who believe in biblical scriptures - Moses existed - amongst other things that you🫵🏻 dismiss.
The rejection of Scripture hasn't been an unknown future event for a very long time now. It is going to happen.
We know what's coming within every year that times get worse - and times shall worsen moreso as unbelievers get their deepest held wishes granted by way of anti-godliness methodologies.
The road to salvation is narrow and many👈🏻 shall 👉🏻not find it.
The Bible will outlive even this. 🙂↔️
@@olnappywhat makes you think that since the Bible is so error filled?
@@olnappy 😅🤣😂
The bible is the most scientifically accurate book you will ever read. When you realise it is all astronomy and astrology.
@@davidagiel8130 the problem here is that you didn’t think we have read your book of myths. I have.
I love this documentary format. So much more filled with info that does not come out during conversational format.
I agree! More of this. Derek, you probably have a mountain of stuff to talk about like this, so definitely consider a lot more! Great stuff
12 months, 12 zodiac signs, 12 labors, 12 gates, etc. Amazing how astrology plays into every ancient religion.
The 12 zodiac signs became the 12 Tribes of Israel (god is the phallus). The seven years of building the Temple of God = 7 zodiac signs. The thirteen years of building the palace of the sun = 28 lunar days x 13 = one solar year.
Yep. It is very ancient going back to the Hunter Gatherer "Astronomy Consciousness" displayed on Panel 43 at Gobekli Tepe. 7,000 years later it all starts to be encoded into the Astro-Theology of "World Age Passage Archetypal Eternal Return" into the Priestly Religions of the Levant. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Starting to put this all together goes back to the 1969 book "Hamlet's Mill" and Vera W. Reid's 1946 book "Towards Aquarius" written during the Blitz in London during WWII. Excellent work here Derek Lambert in starting to lay out the threads of the Hellenistic fusion after Alexander the Great! I am hard at work on my own book with four years of intensive research in. It is all fascinating on a psychological level. The work of C.G. Jung is alive and well! Especially with the entire current "State of Israel" now facing total social and economic collapse within a year because of the Right Wing Suicide of the Nation in and Endless completely Unwinnable War of Attrition. May everyone live in very interesting times ...
13th horoscope sign
Demons literally tried to usurp the order of the reality God created to use it against us. That's why witchcraft, voodoo, kundalini etc ALL work.
They are the PRINCIPALITIES Jesus spoke of.
The embodiments of aspects of consciousness.
Desire, Lust, Greed, All taking different forms to convince those of certain faiths but they're no Gods, simply embodiment entities to dissuade you from the real GOD and seduce you with desires.
These videos are so good, because they help to remind us, again and again, that the Bible did not come to us in a full-blown unit. That over the centuries there have been many many different manuscripts, legends, and stories, and random pieces of them found, that eventually someone rummaged through and decided ( for reasons of his own) to staple some of them together into a unit, to "create" a history and a hope, for a certain group of people.
You are correct! Early Judaism needed an "origin story" and they concocted a doozy of a story I will give them that! 🤣But think about this: the Jews are Yahweh's "Chosen People" yet flash forward to 1938 - 1945 Europe and about 6,000,000 Jews later Yahweh is nowhere to be found! 🤨Maybe just like Jesus, Yahweh went out for cigarettes and never came back. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I guess!
@@Think4Yourself- any belief system that takes us away from standing firm in our own power serves mind control.
@@discontinuedmodel232 yes and the other 6 million of those the Nazis killed as being "inferior" to their pure sensibilities including homosexuals, psychopaths, the infirm, the chronically ill, socialists, atheists etc.
A. Humans are "hard wired" to look for patterns (the main reason why every Civilization makes up figures of humans and monsters when they look at the stars in the night sky).
B. Human nature tends toward “magical thinking,” i.e., it worked for maybe it will eork for me if I do the same thing."
C. Humans need artificial constructs like Law (religious and otherwise) to even get along as individual groups, i.e., the Laws of Moses and the US Constitution are examples of Rules that people MUST HAVE to live in an Orderly Society. (Even the stories of the American Founding Fathers are, to some extent, Fiction. And, that too is a normal part of Human Nature.
C. During most of the :"history" discussed here comes out of Oral Tradition...Writing had Not yet been Invented. Get It?!?
D. So, I have no problem with most of the facts presented here.
E. But, Judgment, on the origins of those facts will ALWAYS depend on WHO YOU ASK.
And that is why we have so many Doctors, Lawyers, Rabbis and Clergymen.
Sad. The Torah is a book that hasn’t changed since Moses wrote it. That’s one thing I will never doubt. That, and The Creator.
Some religions have better PR departments than others. When coupled with an effective accounting, and acquisitions departments, that’s a world winning combo.
Yeah, xtian apologia still dominates, though probably not for long. Besides the earliest writings failing to so much as hint at any earthly existence, heaps of late forgeries demonstrate that (1) even in the 2nd century no legitimate evidence "for" could be found, and that (2) early xtians recognized it as a serious problem demanding a remedy. The remedy chosen was the usual.
You forgot to include systematic torture, violence, and murder. Generational trauma stupefies people and erases the past.
It kinda does make perfect sense that if a group of Jewish scholars had become fascinated with Greek stories and something like The Odyssey, they might want to try and wrote their own version of "a story from our history."
And Moses' story certainly does carry with it a hefty atmosphere of being a Greek tragedy.
Yep. If one follows the evidence, or lack thereof, along with finding ideas that are 'much more likely' than others, one gets closer to the truth
When was the odyssey rediscovered and translated?
@@benmiller537 Matthew 26 53 proves who's author and Messiah,Titus can't be denied, there's lots of proof in scripture,look up Hebrew is Greek by Joseph Yahuda he'll show you proof that Hebrew and Aramaic came from the Greek language Israelites were Greek Hebrews were Asian Greeks.
The beginning of the story tho is very much Mesopotamian in origin.
The whole thing about a baby being sent down a river in a reed basket to be adopted to nobles/royals is straight from the legend of Sargon the Great - founder of the Akkadian empire.
Given the Akkadian empire once stretched all the way to Canaan it should surprise no one that these legends persisted over the centuries and were retconned for local geography and culture.
@@tyronecox5976
Messiah = son of Jupiter (IU Piter)/
Between this channel and Mindshift, I’ve been able to finally put my religious indoctrination into perspective and it’s made letting all of this go so much easier!❤
Same for me !! I just cannot find enough confidence to Tell my family. I still love them but i know when i Will tell them im atheist i Will no longer be part of family
@Mindshift is awesome. I'd like to see more collaborations.
History itself is just another layer of self interested mythology. The truth is that high civilization seem to rise and fall regularly and we are just the latest iteration. We repurpose the past as accomplishments, we reuse the stonework, we melt down the metals, we built a narrative build around putting ourselves at the story’s apex.
Congratulations for getting out. It takes serious strength. I got out 3yrs ago after 20yrs in the crap 🥳🥳 I highly recommend Kristi Burke on UA-cam and I blame Bill on tiktok. Phenomenonal ex Christian contact. They walked me through my deconstruction.. It gets easier and it's soooooooo worth it!! Now go live your best life, you are free 💃🤩🙌✨
@@electronicpower1826I hope you are wrong and they don't reject you. Best wishes to you ❤✨
Thankyou so much for what you do.. Christianity gave me two chronic mental illnesses.. My heart breaks for the children raised in it.. Sending love and solidarity 💜✨
Same
Ah Hollywood. You chan
Protestantism ?
I had no idea Plato said that about the ideal nation being formed of 12 tribes. Man. Just when I think I know everything, you throw something new at me 😂
12 was what many cultures used to base their mathematics around. This continues today. 12 inches in a foot. 12 men make a squad. It's been a great way to add, subtract, divide, and multiply a unit for measurement.
You might know everything, but we don’t know who you are 😊
@davidrodriguez4016 that's just a weird and creepy comment. 😳
On a lighter note:
When was motor racing first mentioned in the bible?
When Moses came fourth in his Triumph, of course.
And drugs?
When he came down from the mountain with two tablets.
Tennis?
When he served in the courts of Pharaoh.
Etc.
He originally came down with three tablets, but one had broken on the way down. There used to be 15 commandments.
@LaoZi2023 the two tablets are on each 5 principles of relationship. Only the initiated sage has been in the void, and knows not to write about that relationship ❤.
All should experience it. 💜
@@LaoZi2023 The lost 5 :
"Thou shalt not count pigs in a Thursday."
"Thou shalt keep the Feast of Wheeks" (as in, invite guinea pigs to the feast).
"Thou shalt not seethe when a kid drinks milk."
"Thou shalt not allow the prophet to make a profit."
"Thou shalt floss regularly."
Source?
Before the tablets he headed for the hills and burned a little weed
This also debunks Islam, because Moses is the prophet whose name is mentioned most often in the Quran (136 times, Mohammed is only mentioned 4 times)
Islam is mostly taken from the Torah and the Bible.
Islam is a derivative of early Christianity highly influenced by Arabic folklore and myth in the peninsula.
As Christianity itself is a derivative of Judaism it should surprise no one that Islam contains an abundance of influences from its predecessors.
@mnomadvfx Tell me you don't understand Islam without telling me.
Many prophets were mentioned as references to tell their story to Prophet Muhammad PBUH. The problem with people like you is that they ignore what was said of any of the Prophet and stick to their shallow knowledge.
The whole message of Islam is that From Adam to Prophet Muhammad PBUH were all sent by God. The rest to their people while the Latter to humanity in general.
There are 25 mentioned Prophet but there are thousands of messengers sent as well.
Christianity and other religions were only a break of from the actual message of unity from their Prophets.
It is only ignorant to claim Islam was copied from the torah or bible. 😅😅
All the tre monoistic religions are based on old myths - and the jews got the idea from the Persian idea of Zoroaster / Ahura Mazda. The worst is the way thetbit has wiped out the feminine part of life and history. In that way it has created unbalance- and we still suffer of that unbalance.. and Islam have a even longer way to go to upright the unbalance
@@apachekafka773really? It shows that people are selective in what they want to know about history….. just a bit here do you know that the word Adam means humans, not only males? A religion who only considers males as humans is really time to throw away. Dominance and conflict don’t help none of us - so let go of it!
Debunking Judaism, Christianity and Islam fairytales in one video... You made my day!
That statue of mosses looks like a statue of posidon iv seen somewhere.
Im really Lichen that statue of Mosses.
Because that is not moses
I truly wish the content of this channel had been taught in schools Fifty years ago! It would have saved me decades of mental anguish and fear of the unknown.
Thank you ever so much!
You should fear the unknown.
Books existed before the internet. Just saying.
@jacquelineleitch7050 And, I'm just saying this type of information was not being taught in school fifty plus years ago to very young school children.
@@Tiredofitall. Try teaching Darwin and truth in red states. No GOP primary candidate raised their hand when asked if they would make evolution a school standard. Creationists are at least a 3rd of the country and 60% believe Noah was real.
Fear lies more. Be more skeptical of ehrman
Moses: the guy who supposes his toeses are roses.
Moses will return as the rainy month of January. His eyes, the stars in Aquarius, are still bright as ever.
But Moses supposes erroneously!😂
Hey! If you come from my town, you know that's where Nacio Herbert Brown, one of the composers on _Singin' in the Rain,_ was born! 🤣🤪
I wonder if after the collapse of the current civilization and subsequent rise of the new one millennia from now, if they will look at the ruins of King's Cross Train Station and London City and the remnants of the Christ Church College Dining Hall at Oxford and decide that The Harry Potter Chronicles were historical facts???
😂
Pattern has it, it will take them thousands of years to figure out it was a fairytale all along.
@@redflag4255 ... only for the minor minority of the very few rational ones... the rest of humanity will continue to believe it and wrangle over it until the next collapse of civilization... until the sun decides it had enough of that.
@@redflag4255 ... only few will figure it out... the rest will continue to believe it until the next cycle of collapse of civilization... well... at least until the sun has had enough.
I can prove it using the jk Rowling scrolls!
For the algorithm!
Me too
Bump
For the dead homies.
Oedipus and Moses.
Both sent off as infants because the king wanted to "harm" them.
Both were raised by royalty, not knowing their true origins.
Both were named after how they were found as infants.
Both interact with a mysterious being in the wilderness. Sphinx, burning bush.Both involved a sort of riddle....
The parallels are too much to ignore
*king
there are thousands of years of history of the egyptians and masopotamian tribes, this was done frequently in that history. Seeing two stories that are familiar doesnt make them false. Think of modern times, would you discount a story of one family only because other families have done the same?
@@GiIgasmash These aren't stories my neighbors are telling of their grandparents. This is just one example of literary borrowing among many in the Septuigent.
@toddfulton2280 you didn't watch the video then. None of the stories match the septuigent.
There are some similarities between Moses and Horus
The "Man"lifted from the waters (southern hemisphere) is Aquarius. It was Zeus, as the Eagle (Aquila) who carried Aquarius to the top of the mountain. One of the many names of the man with the water pitcher is Ganymede.
There aren't twelve months in the roman system until after Julius Caesar's reign, it was a ten month system, August and July are added
You might catch this number ten, in the fairy tale bible. The scorpion is probably pissed about the removal of his claws to become the Libra constellation. See Rev. 9.5, where Scorpio is the leader of Sagittarius thru Pisces.
No, the fifth and sixth months were _renamed_ as July and August. That's why August is followed by the seventh month. It was January and February that were added. That's why it's February that is the short month.
Numa created the 12 month calendar, Julius revised it, there have been many calendar revisions
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We don't know which day of the week we are in. Just call them sun days.
The Egyptians had a named constellation for every week
The graphics you use are so wonderful. Not only are they great art but also they help me follow the stories. Thanks for being excellent.
make a video about the invention of the Jewish people
Might not be good for business.
And keep in mind if one is untrue, so are all the other religions that follow it... the character Jesus comes to mind...if he follows the same way as Moses, then the knock on effect is also true to the same tune.
Hollywood and lies.
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I’m liking, I’m liking!!!
You're watching closely? Can you see me when I'm sleeping and do you know when I'm awake, do you know when I've been bad or good?
On a serious note your content has really improved over time.
Third century work of fiction that we are censored from writing anything factual about
@@MythVisionPodcast Watching closely 🙄,and you still can't figure the truth can you,or there's no filthy lucre in the truth.Titus and Vespasian were Osiris and Horus Serapis Chrestus,you know damn well they were Chrestians until the 6th Century AD,but you keep preaching lies don't you,you know damn well God's Saints are Greek so to the biggest of fools there's only one correct Bible,that being the Greek Septuagint, All scripture is God breathed meaning written by God,and there's so much proof it's Titus,yet you still play dumb to that?, are you a Mason or something, can't join them unless you realise the Soul is immortal,selling it obviously,then that would explain everything,Neal is the same,The Deadly Duo,no pun intended 😂.
If the OT is indeed a Hellenistic creation, that makes it much, much younger than what I'd been taught back in the day.
100% stolen myth
What a gift for me tonight! ❤ Love from Italy!
There is one important trace in the Pentateuch in favour of the Exodus story having a grain of real history in it. It's the prevalence of Egyptian names in the story of Exodus. Aaron, Moses, Merari, Miriam… and more, they're all Egyptian names. So Exodus is a story of "Egyptianized Canaanites" returning to Canaan after centuries of absence. The closest we find in Egyptian historiography is the expulsion of the Hyksos by Ahmose I around 1550 BCE.
It proves that they knew about Egypt. That's it.
Or the expulsion of the remains of the Aten priesthood and other malcontents to settle a buffer state in the Levant.
@@gwynedd1 If so why the writers slapped Egyptian names on what they claimed were Hebrews?
@@gwynedd1 Not really, it goes deeper than that. People tend to use the names of their culture and language. The Egyptian names being used in the Hebrew Bible strongly indicates a deep Egyptian link. After all, Moses is called Moses not...some random name that was actually Hebrew. Unless of course Moses, Aaron etc were Egyptian names so embedded in the Hebrew culture of the time they didnt even consider them foreign. I can't remember the Pharaoh, there was/is a Great Courses course (lol) on Egypt that is free on Audible (at least is was free a few months ago when i listened to it). There is some evidence (according to the actual professor of Egyptology who did the course) that the Pharoah at the time the Hyksos/proto israelites left Egypt did indeed lose his Firstborn Son. So there is that little connecting nugget also.
Bear in mind that Egypt were not the good guys. They were raiders and asskickers. They had been the big boys on the block for millenia. Given the antagonism between Egypt and Canaan/Israel etc, why would they choose to use Egyptian naming conventions? There are not many young Adolfs around outside of Germany these days are there? Unless of course the Egyptian language was deeply embedded in their own culture, for some reason.....
Actually, the Harris Papyrus hints at the proto-Moses story. A rebel called Su united the outcast in PI-Ramses and used mercenaries from Canaan to fight Pharaoh. He paid them by looting Temples. (Melting of the golden calf). But he lost and had to flee north with all his followers.
Well done Derek 🎉
"Holy Moses, I have been deceived,
Now the wind has changed direction, and I'll have to leave.
Won't you please excuse my frankness,
But it's not my cup of tea.
Holy Moses, I have been deceived."
-- Elton John and Bernie Taupin
Border Song ❤👍
Derick you are getting very good at narrating your videos. Keep up the good work sir.
No one would have known Moses if not for Roman’s adopting Christianity and then spreading these myths across the world.
Fascinating. I did a paper on Manetho's account of the Exodus in grad school, but it never occurred to me that the Exodus account could be based on Manetho!
I like this. The truth is in plain sights but children will still want to debate with Adults. Myths are more profound than Realities. Well done.
The truth is never in plain sight, it’s always manipulated and deceive by the limitations of our comprehension. Albert Einstein said there’s 9 levels of reality and we only inhabit 3 of them. To assume we have the capability of understanding the complexities of our existence is not only ignorant but self righteous and egomaniacal. Your problem is you think we are way more evolved than we are.
I think i finally figured it out. Everyone is lying and nobody actually knows what's going on or happened in the past because, everyone was lying back then too.
You're closer to the truth than you think. It's not exactly "what happened" it's who can get their interpretation TOP PRIORITY that matters.
This was extremely thought-provoking and very well done. I especially appreciated that you put much of this presentation into text on the screen bc that gave me the chance to either pause and read it or take a screenshot of it and paste it into a powerpoint so i can further process and reread it. I also liked Weinfeld's comments that much of Biblical literature has parallels with the ANE but that the national origin stories really don't begin until the Hellenistic period which lends additional weight to believing that the Pentateuch may have been much later than we thought. Good stuff. Consider my mind BLOWN.
This is so good that I will have to listen to this 3 or 4 times to absorb it all.
One of your best presentations yet Derek!
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My great great great great grandfather was called Moses. He lived near Winchester, Hampshire. So it wasn't the Red Sea he crossed, it was the Solent.
Some scholars have noted that there are many "Moses" like figures in the mythology of many of the surrounding older cultures, as are most if not all of the stories in the 'old testament' of the bible.
I think it's safe to say that a base 12 counting system was standard in ancient days. For the reason we still use the dozen. Base 12 is the most intuitive system. Bankers used it te quickly and accurately estimate, before computers, while you were counting on your fingers.
Fundamental terms seem to be lifted straight out of Egypt. This seems to come more from understanding (of language) than from (distant) memory. I'm pretty convinced that Moses refers to the name of the pharaoh's name, as many aspects of that royal court seem to be projected. That's difficult to equate with very late dates.
Often wondered if 12 was based on the giant's 6 fingers on each hand. The original inhabitants.
Sexagesimal, also known as base 60, is a numeral system with sixty as its base. It originated with the ancient Sumerians in the 3rd millennium BC, was passed down to the ancient Babylonians, and is still used-in a modified form-for measuring time, angles, and geographic coordinates. The number 60, a superior highly composite number, has twelve divisors, namely 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30, and 60, of which 2, 3, and 5 are prime numbers.
Base 12 is the most easily divisible, by 2 , 3 ,4, and 12. A very logical base.whereas base 10 is only divisible by 2, 5, and 10.
It’s really creepy how this cult started and became “Gods” word it’s rather scary and upsetting
Only a direct reflection on mankind's willingness to go along to get along.
Just be grateful it wasn’t Lord Xenu 😅
Not really. The majority like stories rather than philosophy, the plebeians loved the mythos of heroes and villains, giants and monsters.
They just inserted political ideology into the stories.
Our story tellers / leaders (priests) carry the “blessings of the God’s - they have inherited godliness…pay your entry fee and BE part of the story….praise us and become closer to your heroes”
It’s Fandom, like following Star Wars or Marvel….
@@brandonboulton2776 ... rather humanity's kowtowing to the dictates of might and the sword
Myth can be a motivating force to build a next generation Torah=Instruction Could that be the point? Cultural , Guidebook, Law, Origin all things needed to move forward.
Harvard, Yale, Colombia all found on biblical teachings until Horace Mann was sent to Prussia after that we copied their Degrees and grading systems
My guess is that a small tribe of pastoral goat/sheep herders took some ideas and laws from Ramses, renamed Moses through linguistic drift.
My guess is they decided to steal the Greek religion and philosophy throwing in elements of their own as cover.
Or Titmose(s)
Yeeess, the sheepses and the ramses
Guesses have no worth finding out what happened. An informed guess based on something other than your gut, however...
@@jerroldhewson3600I agree
Josephus also claimed that the Hykos were early Hebrews in Antiques of the Jews. Archeologists have found things with Semetic names in Avaris.
The Hyksos pharaohs etc mummies of Tutankhamun had red blonde hair and the DNA of TODAY'S NW EUROPE where the lost 10 tribes ended up... Hyksos royalty if not general population weren't Semitic.....
Does not the laws contributed to Moses condemn the Israelites from going into someone else’s land and murder, steal, and taken it over? For is that not what they did.
The stealing of Palestine may doom all of us.
The laws are jew to jew. Not outsiders. They can break all 10 commandments if it's a nonjew.
I'm happily surprised. This is the best documentary from Derek I've heard. Keep this style up. Words were pronounced correctly. Voice modulation was on point. Well done.
I think it is likely that there is not 1 single history of the Jewish people, but the progressive merging of histories and myths of the various tribes, groups and peoples who over time merged, separated, conquered and reserved to become what evolved into the Jewish people.
What I have heard is that the group of people released from Babylonian slavery by the Persians wasn’t a homogeneous group, but a mixed group of former slaves that was allowed to settle in and around Jerusalem.
See the work of Robert Graves for the parallels between the Hellenistic and Abrahamic traditions: “The Greek Myths” and “The White Goddess” in particular.
The number 12 idea comes from the zodiac which has been intertwined with ancient mythology. Within the Hyksos there were people that went by the name "Shasu", these in turn were made of other groups, one of them were the Midianites. The Midianites were said to have come from the land of YHW. Believed to be the followers of the Abraham god. So, it is very possible that this story is true.
Good point. The bible is full of astrology. The Old Testament is about the Age of Aries, which is why we have so many references to rams, lambs, sheep and the blowing of the shofar.
They used the pads on their fingers to count and it ads up to 12.
@@EarthStudent7Abraham taurus and Jesus pisces
Revelation foretells aquarius..
Rather, the zodiac comes from the number 12, the number of months in a year. Obsession with 12 does not imply any astrology. You need actual evidence for the latter, wholly lacking in Judaism.
Proove it.
I think that the term shepherd may have been sometimes referring to astrology/religion, rather than herding sheep. Followers of religious thought and worship symbolized by Aries might have been deemed shepherds. In contrast, those whose theology was linked to Taurus or Pisces might have been identified as cowherds or fisherman respectively. In astronomical terms, Jesus was born at a time of the declension of the constellation Aries and the rise of the constellation Pisces and thus was both the good shepherd and a fisher of men. The Christian symbol of the fish might have been a shorthand for illiterate believers that the religion represented a new way of religious thought for a new age. It is easy to forget that the movement of the stars in the sky was one thought to be intimately linked to events on earth and that people absolutely believed that the stars could control their fates.
I love moses as a kid ... never understood until adult that he raided towns for a tyrant god . I knew something was off especially punishment by snake bites when they whined being thirsty in a desert climate.. the result ,, make an idol of bronze serpent 🐍 to stare at at the bites will stop( magic )
Moses = mars, aries... The god of war...
Imagine wandering in a small desert they could have spanned holding hands, for forty years. God is the worst navigation system ever.
@kellydalstok8900 the bible was written In a room full of greedy men . 40 years in the wilderness ( Israel) 40 days and nights ( Christian) 40 days around the world ( Islam) your abrahmic branch is fake, 40 is paying homage to enki rank #40 .. I am an annunaki god of records . Please only challenge if your into ancient gods older than the bible
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Zecharia Sitchin?
@Einnor084 beyond him, he dosent know how they did it . Religion / magic .. but I do
The idea that the bible is historical fact and we cannot question it is bothersome.
I will not accept any religion without acceptance by modern archeology but do acknowledge a moral responsibility towards others with or without a god.
It is probable that a percentage of the stories in the Bible are fictionalised versions of actual events, but extremely unlikely that any of them are actual true stories.
the jewish writings only show up after the library of alexandria burned...they clearly borrowed their history and myths from multiple sources such as the Sumerian/Akkadian/Persian/Greek/Roman/Egyptian/Canaanite histories and myths....Moses is obviously an Eqyptian story that was mythicized...all gathered at the Library of Alexandria just before it was lost and then the Torah shows up
Moses is a Jewish King Arthur.
king arthur was created by a book writer and story teller in the 1100s, moses is a story dating back 4000 years told by religious leaders. Comparing the two shows the foolishness and emotional attachment you have to denying religion and casting as much shade on it as you can. Try being more objective if you want people to care what you have to say.
@@GiIgasmash The story of Moses was invented and written by scribes during the Babylonian captivity in the 6th century BCE. It might have drawn on the oral traditions passed (and distorted) over the Millennium that separated the claimed events and the writers. In this respect it's no different from the story of King Arthur.
@@GiIgasmashArthur was real. Moses is The Muse of Greek
Deep links between Arthurian and biblical messianic traditions
This might be your best one yet! Fascinating stuff. I was aware of Russel Gmirkin via MythVision but you have added much and clarified things considerably. Respect.
Im five month off methadone today and 6 years off heroin.
Im also 10 years free of Religion and trying to just find answers in general to life. Maybe thats my problem 😂
Hope you and the family are well 👍
Edited. Isnt it ironic that the most well known person ever, might not of even existed.... Jesus 😂😂
AMEN-RA!!! my brother.
The song of Deborah is acknowladged by scholars including Finkkestein to have been written during the time if the judges. See Judges 5:2-21 to read the account.
It's weird and off putting that such a bloodthirsty, dyssocial and genocidal mythical character as Moses is seen as a huge hero in 3 major religions. Numbers 31: 13-21 is kind of a horror story, where Moses orders the killing of even captive women and their male infants - and letting the soldiers take the young girls "for themselves" after having killed the rest of their families - while irrationally blaming their people for a plague.
And there is also Exodus 32: 27-29 where Moses commands the Levites among his people to kill their own close family members and neighbours because of religious differences. According to the story he wanted them dead because they believed in and worshipped another God (aka the golden calf), and thus made Moses and his fellow believers and followers "a laughing stock to their enemies''. And after the massacre Moses praised them and said they are blessed for having killed their own brothers and sons
It is weird. When you read the bible with a fresh pair of eyes and see how barbaric it is, especially the Old Testament, it's hard to believe that people still think it is true. The golden calf you mention, is supposed to do with the Age of Taurus. Moses didn't want his followers to worship their old gods or Elohim. He wanted them to focus on Yahweh only in the new Age of Aries. This is why there is so emphasis on rams, lambs, sheep and the blowing of the shofar.
Holy Moses!
I really thank you and Neal for blowing the lid of all this. Indeed I am a believer and believe that Yeshua "happened" to be born under Jewish influence and also that his teaching was a universal message to all, delivered within and to his own culture, as we all are born into a culture.At that point every culture that heard of him or his followers began to include him in their lineage....from philosophers, to Jews, to sex cults. Yeshua imo was the pinnacle not of "just" the Jewish faith but of all the worlds faiths. A teacher at the least, a divine composite being in spirit as well with a message to us all. The divine is within us. You and Neal are responsible for letting the world know, there is more truth to Christianity and all faiths than the Bible and more truth for Christians than the mainstream line. Mystics have known this for thousands and imo Christ came to teach it, to free humanity with a message so powerful, governments and hierarchies and even followers, scurried to capitalize on it. Peace. Funny thing is...You and Neal by revealing and adhering to the truth...are more Christian than some "Christians" and would be in company perhaps in the circle of truth that Yeshua led. Amazing scholarship! keep it up!
If Aaron is the brother of Moses...from which family did he come? Was he from Mose's biological family? If so, how did Moses and Aaron reunite? Or was Aaron from the family of the pharaoh? If so, why would Aaron have any allegiance to the Hebrew God and why would he go against his family? Or was their brotherhood a novel union from their religious covenant with YHWH?
And why did Aaron not get put into a basket of rushes and sent down the river guarded by Miriam? The Egyptians just allowed him to have a normal childhood?
It was portrayed as if he & Miriam were Moses' biological younger siblings & the Egyptians just randomly chose to kill all the male babies, once, just to stick it to the slaves, so Aaron would have been born after this.
Read somewhere that the people loved Miriam most of all. Moses didn't like that.
@@MrChristianDT According to Wiki, Aaron is Moses' older brother.
@@solomonessix6909 Fair enough. It's been a while.
i’ve been doing some cursory reading recently on this. My conclusion to the documentary is “eh, don’t buy it.” i’ve become convinced that:
1. manetho’s description of amenophis and osarseph is a garbled understanding of merneptah, seti ll, and amenmesse.
2. Moses didn’t originally mean “drawn from water,” but “son of,” which follows Papyrus Salt 124 (around 1176 BCE) in ascribing the name Msy (Moses) to amenmesse.
3. The royal name of tausret was sitre meryamun. As with amenmesse, if you drop amun from “meryamun” (beloved of amun) you are left with Miriam (beloved).
4. setnakhte’s year 2 elephantine stela uses the exact language manetho used in his description of the expelling of “hyksos” (an anachronistic term to describe canaanites in general). Also, one could easily imagine the “irsu” allied with tausret being the same person as amenmesse (to my knowledge we have no indication that amenmesse was killed by seti ll).
5. The greek translation of Exodus was working from a hebrew original established centuries prior.
Taken altogether, the Exodus tradition was an early Iron Age reflection on the fall of the bronze age that was textually reappropriated to the context of jeroboam l, rehoboam, and shoshenq l and subsequently redacted up until its greek translation.
And the title deeds to nobody's house,property or land is in it.
I cant describe in few words, if any amount, how much I enjoy these videos. And this man is not a BS'er: IN THAT when I look for peer reviewed, scholarly sources to back what MythVision Pod says, its exonerated.
Syrian is chock full of bs.
You know, there is no shortage of contradictory evidence against whatever it might be, where, here, it's belief in God. One thing, however, that I know, for sure, is that once when I prayed, in ernest, I immediately received a positive answer. I know we can poke holes in reasons for believing all day every day. But then what? How do we explain answered prayers?
Alexander introduced Greek culture, literature and philosophy to the near east ancient civilizations which alongside Egypt are the place where most of Greek philosophy, literature and culture was based on and heavily influenced.
'Mythology is what grown-ups believe, folk-lore is what they tell their children, and religion is both.' - Cedric Whitman
No Moses!! Then that means no promise land.
Well, no, you have to go back to Abraham for the promised land. Moses just brought tbem back there in the story.
@@andrewsuryali8540 only a jealous can say something like that. If they was Jewish ,it would never be that kind of energy from the start.. That’s a whole miracle
@@smartanswer3159 What?
@@andrewsuryali8540 That’s the whole miracle I’m not you and you’re not me…✡️🤣Gotcha
@@smartanswer3159 Miracles aka magic aren’t real. It’s just people misunderstanding what they’re looking at, and tricksters practiced in misdirection.
Minor script/narrative correction: "...even if absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence..." (well, it is). Better: "...absence of evidence isn't *proof* of absence..."
Josephus wrote stuff about Moses that isn't in the Bible, he spoke about a military campaign Moses led south of Egypt and that a statue was erected after his victory, some years ago the base of a statue was found by archaeologists in that same place, which is interesting. Josephus said that he got his information in Antiques from texts that he was allowed to take from the Temples library after the conquest of Jerusalem.
Flavius Josephus also wrote about how the Jews were descendants of Indian philosophers. Specifically, from the Brahman caste (chosen caste).
@@EarthStudent7 oh wow, that's interesting! I haven't heard that. I will definitely look into it!
@@EarthStudent7yeah because Jehovah = Shiva. They’re Shaivites.
@@misslayer999 Awesome! There's a great book I'd recommend called Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, that goes into the link between Hinduism and Judaism. Many of the Vedic stories mirror the Old Testament stories, and as I mentioned, it is believed that the Brahmans (chosen caste) created Judaism. In fact, the story of Abraham and Sarah came from the story of Brahma and Saraswati. Voltaire echoed this claim in Ezourvedam in 1760 stating that not only were Brahma and Abraham the same, but that all religions originally came out of India, the cradle of civilization. But it was really Megasthenes who clued us into who the Jews really were and where they originally came from. Megasthenes, an Ionian from Asia Minor, and contemporary of Seleucus Nicator, was charged with several embassies to India, where he spent a number of years between 302 and 288 BCE. His book Indica was one of the chief sources of knowledge about India in the Hellenistic era. He was the first to write about the connection between Judaism and Indian philosophers calling them Calanoi or Ioudaioi in Syria. Aristotle also spoke about them saying that the "Jews are descended (apogonoi) from the Indian philosophers." And Flavius Josephus quotes a passage from Clearchus' Dialogue on Dreams, which recounts what Aristotle said.
And if you can get your hands on a copy of Arumuga Navalar's booklet, The Abolition of the Abuse of Saivism (1868), you'll see how similar these religions really are. Navalar wrote the booklet as a response to the abuses that were imposed on the Indian people by missionaries during the time of Great Britain's brutal colonization. To refute these attacks and abuses, Navalar used his extensive knowledge of the books that compose the Old Testament to show how similar the stories were to his own religion of Saivism (worship of Shiva). And it worked. Many people in the west have no idea what Hinduism is about. It is a closed off religion, much like Judaism. And like Judaism, Hinduism has stood the test of time.
@@misslayer999 I tried to leave a comment, but YT keeps deleting it. So, I'll shorten my response, and hope it sticks! Megasthenes was the first to write about the Indian/Jewish connection around 300 B.C., Aristotle also wrote about it, and Flavius Josephus quoted Aristotle on the matter. Even Voltaire wrote about in 1760, stating that the biblical Abraham and Sarah were actually Brahma and Saraswati. There are some books on the topic, like Between Jerusalem and Benares edited by Hananya Goodman, or Proof of Vedic Culture's Global Existence by Stephen Knapp.
I read the old testament 2 times. Moses started out being Egyptian because of the Egyptian who found him and raised him we don't know about his younger years what he did before taking the people out of Egypt. Moses took the people on that long journey and I took issue with Moses handling of the people that were with him and how he and his worriers killed a lot of those other tribes or villagers that they came across while traveling. Interesting how the ones following would bring their offerings to Moses, then his people in charge would cook it in a frying pan and they would take the best part and give the rest back to those that brought it. The words were interesting how Moses and the tribes that were with him, some took issue with Moses and would complain and then he say let the Ark figure it out, it would come out of the tent and kill them, looks like it was a weapon, it caused an earthquake, fire came out of it, and it spread poisonous gas, that Aron his brother had the antidote for, Moses said, take your incense, the antidote, run around less we lose them all. Moses could command the Ark with his voice. After Moses died the people put it in a cart, no one could command it anymore.
Moses was "gathered unto his people" (Num. 31.2), i.e., leaving the Sun, "he went and returned, and dwelt" with the Sun - he completed the circle of the zodiac, or year. Having thus looked upon the Promised Land (summer), Moses died, and buried himself in a valley in the land of Moab (water-father = Aquarius = Moses), "but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day" (Deut. 34.6). Although one hundred and twenty years old, " his eyes," it is said, " were not dim (his stars shine as brightly now as they did then), nor his natural force abated (the rainy season still comes on every year) " However, the people wept thirty days, i.e., during the passage of the Sun through Aquarius, the Wash-pot (Ps 60.8), or the rainy month of January.
You did Neal wrong. He was justified with what he said about McClellan. I also don't like your creepy psuedo psychoanalysis you did to Neal about him being a "hey hey" New Yorker. Dan set himself up as the guy calling "balls and strikes". When you do that you need to be open to criticism. Nothing Neal said was false. Idk why you shill for Dan so hard. Oh and saying "why don't you go after Ammon too?" IS a childish argument.
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I suppose it’s a relief knowing that the genocidal barbarism inflicted on the original inhabitants of Judea on the authority of Moses and Joshua never actually happened.
If you believe Bart Herman here, you're not thinking
They were always the underdogs, that’s why they felt the need to create this grandiose origin story.
@@kellydalstok8900 then feel free to explain how jericho was defeated. go ahead.
You deliver the stories/history exceptionally well. Keep up the great work! I'm always interested in history.
2 Corinthians 3:3 God doesn't write in stone. (Moses might have fibbed)
Doesn't match other times god appears to Adam, Noah, Lot... everyone in person, with their message.
John 5:45, John 6:32, Matthew 16:12
Moses gave you NOT the true bread from heaven, bread is doctrine.
Hail Derek, the Prophecy (title of the video) came true!!!
My mind was blown!
There are many ancient structures to prove the Bible
I've often wondered about a similar Greek myth about Perseus: As an infant, he was cast into the sea in a chest (not a basket in a river but similar) with his mother by Acrisius because the old dude thought the baby would grow up and kill him. It isn't the same story, but a similar story with many similar elements that would have been well-known as a typical Greek story.
With less than 1% of ancient documents surviving. It is not surprising nothing extra-biblical relating to a minor people of a minor nation’s history mention anything of an individual from pre-collapse, roughly 1177 BC.
More on the "hero-exposure" tradition, on most of those myths, the person hostile to the child, which is a reigning figure in most of the cases, learns via a prophecy that the child/future child will cause his downfall, reason why he tries to kill the child, who is hidden, and eventually grows up and finally accomplishes the prohecy... it's even the story of Zeus... and, to some extent, the "slaughter of the innocents" in the New Testament is also a reflexe of this tradition.
the Egyptians erased any history that made them look bad. Thus we have no clue what really happened.
People a few thousand years from today will be saying the same thing about today's history.
No they didn't
@@matane2465 Yes they did. In fact they would chip out the names of individuals who they did not like from their statues. We have only tatters of Egyptian history.
They tried to. Sometimes.
We shouldn’t know about Tuts dad, but we do...
On a very serious note I don't know how to explain this but my sub-tribe (Meru community) in kenya has a similar ancient story, i think the story might be literal from oral submissions we got from them bt not in a scale as explained in the bible
Wholly Moses!!!
Ummmm, maybe, Holey Moses?
At 49 min: "and teaches them circumcision". Wow. That would make their day. I bet they were super excited and grateful.
Charlton Heston lol.
@@kaarlimakela3413 classic
"Charlton Heston was real which provides evidence that Moses was real" - someone , probably.
Smokin' hot Moses.
I love your channel, you are providing a service to humanity.
Convincing
Moses was based on a man named Irsu of the Shasu tribe. The Shasu and Hyksos joined forces and invaded Goshen. Some scholars believe Hyksos was anyone from the Levant region to Egyptians.
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you have to understand Calibrated Analogy to understand why the myths and religion coincide.
Once you started promoting Bart Erhman's stuff, then i tuned out your video. If your calculation engine decides to promote that wacko, then what else if your calculation engine deciding?!
Mojsije in Slavic means mine shine. It could be a star. Judaism is invented in 17th century
What if like David he wasn't known in his time as Moses? Just saying.
Two fictional characters.
Thanks!
It's probably futile on my part, but I wish Derek would stop reifying old biases, in this case opening this video with "THE OLD Testament". It's anachronistic to even use that phrase for early Christians who read the Hebrew Scriptures.
May Seth/Typhon bless the algorithm.
Freud said Moses was Akhenaton
I know some Caananites. They want their land back.
😂😂😂good 1
Give the Americas back too