Thanks for watching! A correction: at 8:40, it was the Talgo 6 sets that were retired, not 7. Additional Credits: Banks Rail Apologies for my recent errors in videos. Sometimes I completely miss things while researching (and trying to verify info) or editing. By no means am I an expert at all the topics I discuss here. I do my best to double check things, but I’m a one man band for my channel and it can get a bit overwhelming, so I hope you understand.
As someone who lives in the San Diego area, the Surfliner and Coaster services are two really neat unique train sets to see going up and down the area, the aforementioned busses on these routes also help a lot when the Surfliner's rail gets inevitably washed out like it did just recently thanks to all the rain. Really cool video though, I know you like covering lots of Amtrak services but maybe one day you could cover the Coaster service as it uses an interesting set of rolling stock
Although Pacific Surfliner may have been adopted as a name in 2000, the service dates from Amtrak Day in 1971, and is descended from the Santa Fe's "San Diegan" service between LA and SD that originate in 1938. The extension of the San Diegan service to Santa Barbara began in 1988, and San Luis Obispo was first reached in 1995. Goleta, which is now the northern endpoint for many Surfliners, opened in 1998.
Note on State-owned trains, such as West Coast trains like Cascades, Capitol Corridor, San Joaquins, and Surfliner-the states own the equipment, and manage the service. Amtrak is a contractor, hired by the state or the rail agencies to operate and maintain the trains. The branding and marketing comes from those agencies, not Amtrak.
I grew up riding the Capitol Corridor. And I’m SO happy we are keeping our F59PHIs for a while. The blue and gold will always hold a special place in my heart
6:55 quick correction. so the san Juaquin will have traditional cafe cars, but only 3 trains wont. mainly in the early morning and very late evening trains from Sacramento to Bakersfield
A note about the Night Owl: Amtrak currently doesn't have sleeper service on 65, 66, & 67. There was sleeper service added back with a mid-2021 experiment that saw a lot of positive reception, but issues with bad track and crew unfamiliarity with Viewliners, among other factors led to Amtrak cutting the service in early 2022. It would be nice if Amtrak would return sleeper service on the Night Owls again but we just have to sit and wait.
4:39 As a Portlander and Amtrak Cascades enjoyer, my heart goes out to all Midwesterners who long for any natural beauty. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten
It's not poorly constructed, the engineer wasn't paying attention. There was no PTC and he missed the 60 mph speed limit. Not exactly the quickest or most cost effective solution to try to maintain 79 mph all the way through Dupont.
@@everettrailfan tbh i'd have preferred if they just kept the old line going along the Puget Sunds, much better views along there even if it's a little longer
Very nicely put together! The Cascades brand is the one that stands out the most due to it not using the usual blue colors of Amtrak so it’s cool to see a different variant of Amtrak if they didn’t use blue lol 5:11 also thanks for using my clip in your video asw!
I’d love to see an Amtrak New England brand with a beautiful Gold, Red, Silver, & Orange paint scheme based off of New England’s iconic and gorgeous fall foliage with trains running the NEC from New York to Boston before continuing onward through New Hampshire and Vermont to Montreal connecting these two cities with Higher Speed Rail along with the Ethan Allen Express, Downeaster, Valley Flyer, East-West Rail, & and all of the other current and future Amtrak services within New England all of which being rebranded with the Amtrak New England brand.
I always wanted to ride the Piedmont but never had the chance to get to NC. Those 110 mile midwest trains are a marvel. I live in Cali and AMTK CA is the best way for me to go from where I live up to Sacramento or San Diego. Being a business owner in the Northwest, I also ride Cascades on an occasional basis. They used to have f59s before they got sent to Metra.
Another well done and informative video. I honestly wish we had something like this in Canada to expand regional passenger services given that VIA doesn't seem to offer much of that on their own (especially for areas outside the main corridor that could benefit from provincially backed services but use VIA as an operator like the case with these Amtrak brands). There's one small error though as you said Empire Service dates back to Penn Central in 1967 while Penn Central didn't exist until 1968
It’s tough if possible, maybe that Calgary - Banff train could be a start as a “Via” sponsored train but I’m not sure if that’s a private or public run system. Though I doubt any consvervative governments in places like the Maritimes and the Prarie’s would be interested starting a provincial transit system, seeing that my province of Saskatchewan axed our bus system thinking Greyhound would replace them and or others
Another state-specific branding are the Springfield/Hartford shuttles under the Hartford Line name, a CTRail (ConnDOT) brand, both ConnDOT trains and the Amtrak shuttles operate under the same branding and have interchangeable unreserved fares.
The downeastern is my local service of Amtrak. And actually it’s my only local passenger train. I’m from its Northern terminus state and where it gets the name “downeastern”, because that’s a nickname for our people. It’s a pretty underrated service just like its region (not including Mass) and honestly, that makes it more unique.
I see the Amtrak Capitol Corridor train go by my school everyday. I’m happy that the Capitol Corridor F59PHI’s are staying on the Amtrak San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor train service.
I like how the Chargers have a very Heavy bulk To them, Even the Coaches are as tall as the P42s, They sorta look slightly taller than the P42s, Ah, The American loading gauge.
@@fritzfam5 The horizon and amfleet seats were big and comfy, like sitting on your sofa at home. The venture cars are more akin to a Greyhound bus seat.
Amtrak really did you dirty with some of those half-assed liveries. Just a little more effort and they could've made you look as good as the old engines your kind are replacing...
Are the chargers that bad? I thought they ended up fixing the issues had with them and NGL I haven't heard any issues (minus a shortage a few weeks ago caused by two being pulled from service after some pretty hefty crashes).
Must be a Midwest thing out of Chicago, cause Canadian chargers don’t have these problem (maybe not yet) but since their widespread service last year, nothing yet.
@@TheRandCrews It was an issue with the chargers built in the early to mid 2010s, but that was fixed a year ago at this point. TBH most of the charger hate these days is foamers not accepting that we've entered the age of the charger.
@@piemaddI agree, though seeing here in Canada there’s not much hate against Chargers, though possibly cause it’s replacing decades old aging equipment and used to getting European designed trains for years. Hell the Nightstar coaches were British. So people like the modernity or somewhat rebranding of VIA because of it.
The Venture sets are on hold for the San Joaquins is on hold because Amtrak is going back on the Automat cars. They are working on a cafe car for the venture sets.
As a PNW native I feel like I must correct your statement on "7 round trips from Eugene to Vancouver, BC" since no train actually runs the entire length. Most of the service is between Seattle and Portland, with two trains in each direction going to Eugene and Vancouver, BC, but none going the whole way (this is also ignoring Coast Starlight service, which is show on the Cascades time table and often has similar coach prices in this segment)
My favorite Amtrak like when I was younger was the Pacific Surfliner and my favorite engine was the F59PHI because of it. When the Chargers took over, I was understandably bias against them. P.S: I still live in the Amtrak California area.
@@SeanBleaking Illinois Department of Transportation. One of the DOTs responsible for Amtrak Midwest. It is major DOT for Midwest too since all the routes run into Chicago.
I really hope that for the Cascades line they keep buying Talgo sets because it really does make the service very unique compared to all the other ones and the cars seem to ride very nice. Granted these Talgo sets have been the only Amtrak trains i've ridden on but still
That is correct, yes, and those P32AC-DMs will be replaced by Siemens Chargers SC-42DMs and they'll be running back and forth between NY Penn Station and Albany as well, and probably swap with ALC-42s in Albany, this should be interesting!!
One BIG difference between Superliner and bi-level "California Cars" is that the newer cars have automatic doors. When Superliners are included in a California regional train, one must move to a California car to exit the train.
Personally, I feel that the Capitol Corridor is better off under ACE than Amtrak California brand. That means clipper cards would be accepted for commuters headed from Solano, Davis or Sacramento to the east bay. ACE is starting a seperate service to Sacramento, but that’s via the Altamont valley and caters to Central Valley folks who commute to the South Bay.
Very weird but id remember as a kid when I was living in Lockwood no but it doesn't run those rails according to the Amtrak Midwest map I have no idea why they run the tracks
It wouldn't be too difficult to change the sidewall design of the Midwest Charger (during their next regular revision) to match the Venture cars better.
Thanks for watching! A correction: at 8:40, it was the Talgo 6 sets that were retired, not 7.
Additional Credits:
Banks Rail
Apologies for my recent errors in videos. Sometimes I completely miss things while researching (and trying to verify info) or editing. By no means am I an expert at all the topics I discuss here. I do my best to double check things, but I’m a one man band for my channel and it can get a bit overwhelming, so I hope you understand.
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Video suggestion: the trains of Epic Mickey 2, please. There are a few
5:17
Sleeper service on the Northeast Regional was cancelled in early 2022.
The only branding Cascades will ever need is their goofy cab car! People will remember that train for a long, long time.
As someone who lives in the San Diego area, the Surfliner and Coaster services are two really neat unique train sets to see going up and down the area, the aforementioned busses on these routes also help a lot when the Surfliner's rail gets inevitably washed out like it did just recently thanks to all the rain. Really cool video though, I know you like covering lots of Amtrak services but maybe one day you could cover the Coaster service as it uses an interesting set of rolling stock
Although Pacific Surfliner may have been adopted as a name in 2000, the service dates from Amtrak Day in 1971, and is descended from the Santa Fe's "San Diegan" service between LA and SD that originate in 1938. The extension of the San Diegan service to Santa Barbara began in 1988, and San Luis Obispo was first reached in 1995. Goleta, which is now the northern endpoint for many Surfliners, opened in 1998.
Note on State-owned trains, such as West Coast trains like Cascades, Capitol Corridor, San Joaquins, and Surfliner-the states own the equipment, and manage the service. Amtrak is a contractor, hired by the state or the rail agencies to operate and maintain the trains. The branding and marketing comes from those agencies, not Amtrak.
This was very informative. Brands you generally don’t see or forgot about actually belong to Amtrak!
And I love the explanation!
We’re so back 🗣️🗣️🤯🤯
6:55 don’t worry train vending machine can’t hurt you…
VENDING MACHINE:
I grew up riding the Capitol Corridor. And I’m SO happy we are keeping our F59PHIs for a while. The blue and gold will always hold a special place in my heart
IKR?
I see those engines go by my school everyday.
@@Deadchannel99128 Wow your so lucky!
@@azmaan2011 Yeah. I love the F59PHI’s
7:47 my favourite train currently, cool livery, bug powerful locomotive, generally awsome looking!
Hearing him say Norfolk made my day😂
6:55 quick correction. so the san Juaquin will have traditional cafe cars, but only 3 trains wont. mainly in the early morning and very late evening trains from Sacramento to Bakersfield
0:01 MY FAV SONG
SHUT UP, MEMES AND POP CULTURE REFERENCES SHOULD NOT BE USED IN DISCUSSION VIDEOS!!!!!!!
@dennisthebrony2022 what?..🤨🫤🙁
6:04 - Glad the footage I sent was helpful - thanks for that and great video!
A note about the Night Owl: Amtrak currently doesn't have sleeper service on 65, 66, & 67. There was sleeper service added back with a mid-2021 experiment that saw a lot of positive reception, but issues with bad track and crew unfamiliarity with Viewliners, among other factors led to Amtrak cutting the service in early 2022. It would be nice if Amtrak would return sleeper service on the Night Owls again but we just have to sit and wait.
4:39
As a Portlander and Amtrak Cascades enjoyer, my heart goes out to all Midwesterners who long for any natural beauty. Your sacrifice will not be forgotten
The real reason the Midwest Chargers struggle in winter is because of bad maintenance in Chicago
Yeah, when maintained properly, they're incredibly reliable.
Cascades: the service that kills you instantly
*joke about Point Defiance Bypass being poorly constructed and having a 30 mph curve on a 79mph line*
It's not poorly constructed, the engineer wasn't paying attention. There was no PTC and he missed the 60 mph speed limit. Not exactly the quickest or most cost effective solution to try to maintain 79 mph all the way through Dupont.
@@everettrailfan tbh i'd have preferred if they just kept the old line going along the Puget Sunds, much better views along there even if it's a little longer
@@TheIcyWizard705at least they have no freight interference on the bypass
As a Portlander... Damn bro did you have to rip my soul out?
@everettrailfan yeah I appreciate that one, not being constantly delayed by freight trains for once
As someone who lives around the Central Valley in California it’s nice that the San Joaquin line was mentioned.
2:40 ooo the Empire State Express is back, spirituality
Thanks for talking about the Capitol Corridor and San Joaquin lines because I am a Northern California railfanner.
Very nicely put together! The Cascades brand is the one that stands out the most due to it not using the usual blue colors of Amtrak so it’s cool to see a different variant of Amtrak if they didn’t use blue lol
5:11 also thanks for using my clip in your video asw!
I’d love to see an Amtrak New England brand with a beautiful Gold, Red, Silver, & Orange paint scheme based off of New England’s iconic and gorgeous fall foliage with trains running the NEC from New York to Boston before continuing onward through New Hampshire and Vermont to Montreal connecting these two cities with Higher Speed Rail along with the Ethan Allen Express, Downeaster, Valley Flyer, East-West Rail, & and all of the other current and future Amtrak services within New England all of which being rebranded with the Amtrak New England brand.
I would take a vacation to New England just to see and ride these trains!
Great video, Currently watching. Sounds GREAT so far
I always wanted to ride the Piedmont but never had the chance to get to NC. Those 110 mile midwest trains are a marvel. I live in Cali and AMTK CA is the best way for me to go from where I live up to Sacramento or San Diego. Being a business owner in the Northwest, I also ride Cascades on an occasional basis. They used to have f59s before they got sent to Metra.
As a NC native the Piedmont is really cool, the ol 1950s and 60s cars with the cool paintjobs make it really cool, plus it’s reasonably reliable
@@Apple-om5mr hey thanks.
We making it to the mainline to see Amtrak brands with this one! 🔥🔥🔥
The surfliner also runs with a superliner observation lounge on a semi regular basis
They run those two Talgos so hard that I thought there were like 7 of them.
Glad we are there to help and support you, keep up with the great work 👍
glad i was able to help with clips again
Another well done and informative video. I honestly wish we had something like this in Canada to expand regional passenger services given that VIA doesn't seem to offer much of that on their own (especially for areas outside the main corridor that could benefit from provincially backed services but use VIA as an operator like the case with these Amtrak brands). There's one small error though as you said Empire Service dates back to Penn Central in 1967 while Penn Central didn't exist until 1968
It’s tough if possible, maybe that Calgary - Banff train could be a start as a “Via” sponsored train but I’m not sure if that’s a private or public run system. Though I doubt any consvervative governments in places like the Maritimes and the Prarie’s would be interested starting a provincial transit system, seeing that my province of Saskatchewan axed our bus system thinking Greyhound would replace them and or others
An amazing video on Amtrak. I enjoy watching videos about Amtrak.
🔥🔥WE MAKIN OUT OF THE STATION WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
We getting on the train with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Some Amtrak Midwest services use Superliners, notably the Illini/Saluki
Your welcome Jared! Keep up these great videos!
Great Video! Quick Request for another video; Could you do the History of the "Rocky Mountaineer" train, operating currently across Canada? Thanks.
He loves the Talgos so much lmao.
Well they are going to be replaced by Airo Venture and charger sets soon. hehe
the Ethan Allen Express service trains should also have their place here given that they are operated by the states of Vermont and New York.
The Downeaster was mentioned. That's all I came for
I always wanted to ride it.
Same
Love this!! I’ve always wondered about the California train. Always wondered if it was Amtrak.
Now *THAT* was a great way to start a UA-cam video 👍
Good stuff Jared! Glad the footage was useful!
The amtraks of amtrak is my new favorite series
ive gotten to experience both the Silver Meteor, and Silver star trains to orlando and it quite the nice ride
Another state-specific branding are the Springfield/Hartford shuttles under the Hartford Line name, a CTRail (ConnDOT) brand, both ConnDOT trains and the Amtrak shuttles operate under the same branding and have interchangeable unreserved fares.
The downeastern is my local service of Amtrak. And actually it’s my only local passenger train. I’m from its Northern terminus state and where it gets the name “downeastern”, because that’s a nickname for our people. It’s a pretty underrated service just like its region (not including Mass) and honestly, that makes it more unique.
2:33 and 2:58 Clips Credit to me :)
I wasn't credited but I got you
So sorry about that! I'll add your name to the pinned comment.
@@AmtrakGuy365 all good 👍🏾
We are your favorite Amtrak guy 365
I see the Amtrak Capitol Corridor train go by my school everyday. I’m happy that the Capitol Corridor F59PHI’s are staying on the Amtrak San Joaquin and Capitol Corridor train service.
Epic video as always
I absolutely HATE the new siemens cars in the midwest. I was very happy when my train pulled up with a full consist of horizon cars.
I like how the Chargers have a very Heavy bulk To them, Even the Coaches are as tall as the P42s, They sorta look slightly taller than the P42s, Ah, The American loading gauge.
I'm hoping they fix the seats on the ventures
@@fritzfam5 The horizon and amfleet seats were big and comfy, like sitting on your sofa at home. The venture cars are more akin to a Greyhound bus seat.
As a Charger, i am proud to be on almost all of these services
Amtrak really did you dirty with some of those half-assed liveries. Just a little more effort and they could've made you look as good as the old engines your kind are replacing...
Are the chargers that bad? I thought they ended up fixing the issues had with them and NGL I haven't heard any issues (minus a shortage a few weeks ago caused by two being pulled from service after some pretty hefty crashes).
Must be a Midwest thing out of Chicago, cause Canadian chargers don’t have these problem (maybe not yet) but since their widespread service last year, nothing yet.
@@TheRandCrews It was an issue with the chargers built in the early to mid 2010s, but that was fixed a year ago at this point. TBH most of the charger hate these days is foamers not accepting that we've entered the age of the charger.
@@piemaddI agree, though seeing here in Canada there’s not much hate against Chargers, though possibly cause it’s replacing decades old aging equipment and used to getting European designed trains for years. Hell the Nightstar coaches were British. So people like the modernity or somewhat rebranding of VIA because of it.
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The Venture sets are on hold for the San Joaquins is on hold because Amtrak is going back on the Automat cars. They are working on a cafe car for the venture sets.
As a PNW native I feel like I must correct your statement on "7 round trips from Eugene to Vancouver, BC" since no train actually runs the entire length. Most of the service is between Seattle and Portland, with two trains in each direction going to Eugene and Vancouver, BC, but none going the whole way (this is also ignoring Coast Starlight service, which is show on the Cascades time table and often has similar coach prices in this segment)
As a pnw native who used the Amtrak a lot I can confirm this. Going from Washington to Oregon always means a crew switch in Portland Oregon.
Amtrak has a nice variety of brands. They're very neat and classy.
@1:18 The pic used for business class is from the First Class car and the image for first class is from a Business Class car
Also, 65 and 66 haven't had sleeper service for some time, the consist is 4 coach class cars and a business/caf
My favorite Amtrak like when I was younger was the Pacific Surfliner and my favorite engine was the F59PHI because of it. When the Chargers took over, I was understandably bias against them.
P.S: I still live in the Amtrak California area.
8:40 Talgo 6, not 7. As far as I know no American operators ordered the Series 7
I would like to updated the print on sc-44 to match with passages car to make better.
Contact IDOT and let them know!
@@MrMarshmallow26 what is IDOT in Illinois? May 20 I am going into Chicago from CaliforniaZephyr.
@@SeanBleaking Illinois Department of Transportation. One of the DOTs responsible for Amtrak Midwest. It is major DOT for Midwest too since all the routes run into Chicago.
I live near the scene where the p42s and going through the double track with the fencing on the Midwest segment.
I really hope that for the Cascades line they keep buying Talgo sets because it really does make the service very unique compared to all the other ones and the cars seem to ride very nice. Granted these Talgo sets have been the only Amtrak trains i've ridden on but still
Although P32AC-DMs can run to Niagara Falls, most are taken off at Albany.
That is correct, yes, and those P32AC-DMs will be replaced by Siemens Chargers SC-42DMs and they'll be running back and forth between NY Penn Station and Albany as well, and probably swap with ALC-42s in Albany, this should be interesting!!
another great video and informative =D
0:52 why are there half crossings that go to the further track on your side?
8:14 the amtrak cascades train in Seattle on june 4th 2010:
One BIG difference between Superliner and bi-level "California Cars" is that the newer cars have automatic doors. When Superliners are included in a California regional train, one must move to a California car to exit the train.
BLUD, CALTRANS CHARGERS WERE FIRST, THEIRS ARE REPAINTS OF OURS!
Glad to help out in this.
Idea: Next Time on Engines of Amtrak, we are talking about the Inherited Rail Equipment when Amtrak Started (and that includes EMD E & F units).
Amazing Video
Excellent video
I love the silver service
I can't wait they can do amtrak's around the future.
Pacific Surfliner mentioned, I am happy
Since when did 66 still have sleeper service I thought they killed that when they rerouted 66 southern terminus to Roanoke
No more sleeper on the NE Regionals! Was breifly re-introduced and cut again nearly 3 years ago.
8:34 Oh my god I had no idea the USA had Talgo duck trains
Amtrak got rid of overnight sleeper service on the Northeast Regional.
This video was great!
The Chicago to St Louis route is called the Lincoln Service
Personally, I feel that the Capitol Corridor is better off under ACE than Amtrak California brand. That means clipper cards would be accepted for commuters headed from Solano, Davis or Sacramento to the east bay. ACE is starting a seperate service to Sacramento, but that’s via the Altamont valley and caters to Central Valley folks who commute to the South Bay.
I am a midwest guy and i see all sc-44 chargers with the words "Amtrak MidWest" on it.
Thank you. Great video.
Very weird but id remember as a kid when I was living in Lockwood no but it doesn't run those rails according to the Amtrak Midwest map I have no idea why they run the tracks
when the silver service video coming
The Empire Corridor also has viewliners!!!
8:10 my local train
I like the Washington routes please ride them more
Well we are down to 1 series & after the mt Batchlor set hit a tree in Starwood Washington
Aren't there 13 round trips to Albany? with 5 continuing to Niagara falls
For real though, the entire San Joaquins is over SIX HOURS how could they not any cafe service?
No mention of the Empire Builder, Texas Eagle, Hiawatha & etc?
Empire Builder and Texas Eagle are just long distance routes and the Hiawatha is an Amtrak Midwest route, which was mentioned in the Midwest segment.
Great video!
Small thing: the old Talgos were Talgo 6s, not Talgo 7s
It wouldn't be too difficult to change the sidewall design of the Midwest Charger (during their next regular revision) to match the Venture cars better.
Fun Fact: Amtrak has Dutch Flag on their Phase III
NE Regional trains going to Springfield, MA, alao switch to P42 diesel locomotives at New Haven.
This may be a dumb idea but what about a rolling stock of Amtrak series highlighting the major passenger cars that they have had