Max Payne 3 Is A Disconnect From the Trilogy | A Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Max Payne 3 is the third and final entry into the Max Payne Trilogy and it is the only title not directly developed by Remedy Entertainment, and instead headed by Rockstar. This means the game is an excellent game no doubt, but does it belong as an entry into the established series...or perhaps is it a bit too disconnected from the source?
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My favorite part of Max Payne 3 was the flashback to Hoboken. Max killing that mob bosses' son was so iconic imo. Also the final shootout in the airport with Tears blasting in the background is so memorable. It's one of the memories that sticks with me even after so long. Also if you listen to the lyrics of the song it can be applied to Max's wife speaking to him from beyond the grave. "It's time to let me go. Give up on us. Follow what you want. Your memories are wrong. Save us once." I still listen to that song. Love the video and looking forward to your next work!
I didn't actually know the lyrics! That's amazing, it's such a badass song and when it drops in the airport scene it gives you goosebumps. The Hoboken levels were so good as well, another person commented saying that the whole game should've been constructed around the Hoboken design and I agree. Maybe more flashbacks, or just have a larger focus on Max's roots. Thanks homie 🤙
Straight up was my favourite part too
Seeing their graves there too was also another thing I liked tbh, Vinnie Gognitti probably not having most of himself being buried there lol
Also TEARS (and PAIN) are the best in the score hands down 🙇🏻♀️
The flash back was the best part of the game it was the game I wanted it to be
If you love the song Tears, you might like the GTA Video I made of it on my channel. Shameless plug😁
"You'll walk with a limp." Is a bad ass fucking line
And it's a delicious twist on that old trope where the good guy lets the bad guy live but then he has to kill him anyway because he pulls out a secret weapon or whatever.
And he snaps the dude's leg in half. Brutal.
No its just a bad line
@@carlpissatto1198 why it is bad?
As much as I love this series and especially Max Payne 3, I don’t think a fourth game is warranted with how the last one ends. Max fought through the darkness of the first only to find no relief, tried to find love and again was left with nothing by the end of the second game, and in trying to escape his past in the third, he finally is given the light at the end of the tunnel that he had spent the last twenty some-odd years fighting for. Max deserves his retirement. He deserves to live in the sun after wallowing for so long in the dark.
Bro to be honest I'll be happy to get one but I'm good 👍doe I'm not really interested in it but love the series doe they need me make a new street crimes series
Finally someone who agrees on this. I mean, even the first game wrapped up nicely, but Max Payne 3 isn't too bad.
Yeah, otherwise it would feel like Punisher. It would be better a remake trilogy.
I agree 3 left off perfect. I don’t really want to see poor max get dragged through hell a 4th time lol. I’m not really expecting it to be that great either. When you have 3 incredible games in a row you just can’t really expect the 4th one to top it’s predecessors, just feels very likely it will be a little washed up and dragged out.
"It's dark in some places, but it's sunny everywhere else."
I think Dan Houser loved and respected the character so much that he wanted to give the old hardass his walk into the sunset.
Love that song and scene, gets me every time
Max Payne 3 didn't get the love it deserves
It is one of my all time favourite game🖤
Max payne is my favorite and i didnt particularly like 3 because of the reasons in this video
@@nothingforyouhere418 yeah you're on crack max payne is great game and all grew up playing 1 and 2 on the ps2 but max payne 3 has the best shooting mechanics for any 3rd person action shooter.
@@nothingforyouhere418 Max Payne 3 is the best of the trilogy because of Health’s soundtrack ALONE!
I didnt like max payne 3. I loved the first 2 max Payne's. I also loved wet and the f.e.a.r. trilogy. Hated max payne 3 though.
@@robert779
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Max payne 3 had a 3 part comic series released for free that explains some of the things that happened between max payne 2 and 3, Mona got on to opening a hotel(as seen in a TV ad), Jim bravura got a heart attack and had to let max go from the department after the scandal of him killing a(Later discovered to be a corrupt cop) detective, and going on a mob murdering spree, they did leave him with a bit of money that max had been living off of.
They should've included that back story into the game. Would've made more sense, but still very weird considering he finds peace at the end of the second game. Oh well.
Mona died homie its mentioned in the comic and in the "Ain't No Reprievement Gonna Be Found Otherwise" chapter , that hotel thing is just a reference/maybe a sanity slippage. Max even says that he might be losing it.
Ah yes, the thing that's required to be in the game, sure, take it out
And believe it or not, Sam Lake co-wrote these comics.
I had the comic series and if I remember correctly it ends as soon as Max pulled the gun on DeMarcos kid
Max Payne 1: Snow
Max Payne 2: Rain
Max Payne 3: Sun
That why max Payne 2 is the best and 3 the worst
@@RobertEdwinHouse9 Yes and no.
*sun everywhere else dark in some place else
More like : Sun that covers the filth, corruption and nasty places that are not that far from what Max seen on daily basis.
@@RobertEdwinHouse9moron its got it all.
Dan houser is a great writer but sam lake understood who max payne was as a character better. I wish he wrote max payne 3 instead of houser. We could’ve potentially gotten the greatest trilogy in gaming history.
Changing the writer makes less than 0 sense. Imagine someone other than J.K Rowling writing the last book of Harry Potter. Nobody would've acknowledged it as official since no "law" or "paper" can claim that someone other than you is "the parent of your baby."
@Garland846accurate? Max Payne 2 literally ends with Max being in peace with his past and being mentally stable. Max Payne 3 is a great game, but we can say the truth: it's one of the best shooter ever made and one of the worst sequel ever. Rockstar wanted to make Man on Fire: The Game and also wanted to give a realist and crude portrait of Brazil situation, they had the Max Payne IP in their portfolio and they thought it would be cool to have the Man on Fire game set in Brazil with the bullet time mechanic from Max Payne. They regressed the character to fit the Man on Fire adaptation, they watched Elite Squad and Max Payne 3 was born (story wise of course). Yes, the monologues are there but the writing is totally different, he simply isn't the same person. I mean, at that point they were free to do whatever they wanted with the franchise, but it's objective that every choice made with Max Payne 3 only answered to Rockstar needs, with very little concern about the first two games. I understand the shifts from Remedy's style in terms of tone, atmosphere, setting and plot, Rockstar had to have their take and put their DNA and vision in the game, but it was the bare minimum to expect at least consistency with the character development from the the first two game.
I still think it's a great trilogy but Sam should've definitely been the main writer considering how well he understood Max. Not to discredit Dan at all considering how many incredible stories he's written hell even tho I have my problems with MP3's story it's still pretty decent and what it tries to do in terms of its themes and all is nothing short of incredible but it would've been even better if they included Sam. Hopefully if they decide to remake MP3 just like the first two games Sam could polish up the story a bit more and then it'd be basically perfect imo
mona is referenced in MP3, you can find her grave in the cemetery. and also the little jersey shore reject that max puts a bullet in in the bar flashback also mentions him being involved with killers (another reference to his romance with mona).
@Samuel Giam there are 3 graves you can interact with, winterson's, vinnie's, and mona's.
I love all 3 Max Payne games but my favourite is definitely this one. The story is great, graphics hold up extremely well even today, the shooting mechanics are still unbeaten when it comes to third person shooters in my opinion and that airport level combined with Tears gives me goosebumps every single time I play it. I have no idea how many times I already completed it but I always come back to it at least once a year
Really? The story of MP3 is great?
I'm sorry bro but you don't seem to know much about storytelling and narrative.
All you care about is Graphics.
@@axd2312 I do not care only about graphics, the shooting mechanics are amazing as well and story may not be the best ever but it's not bad either also Max's monologue described his character perfectly in my opinion, it is a bit sarcastic, occasionally fun and maybe even relatable from time to time.
@@MarkoVuckovic32
Alright bro, i understand.
But according to me, as far as the story is concerned, maxpayne 1 and 2 were great.
Max Payne 3 on PC is the greatest 3rd person shooter of all time. the combat and gunplay are unmatched to this day
5:22 she is mentioned in intro cutscene for cementery level as is detective Winters when you investigate tombstone in the same level.
What would do great is a full on remake of the first two games but with the mechanics of 3. Leave the story, the comic book style cutscenes intact and just revamp the games.
Yeah I really wish that the third game had the comic-book style cutscenes because waiting for the damn game to load as I was waiting to skip the cutscenes on my playthroughs was so annoying.
Exactly
Just don't have grove street games do it as seen in the gta trilogy Remastered.
@@brandonplaisted8194 preferably remedy could make it.
You're getting what you wanted
I get your points. I've never played the other two. They totally went with the grainy VHS look on this one. I feel that someone was sold on this game as a R* version of Kane and Lynch. Haha
And it paid off. Lot better than Kane and Lynch themselves
@@gagejohnathan9641 yeah. Max Payne 3 was a good game. But I also understand the video's points and how he feels it is a disconnect.
I woulda loved if R* had given Kane & Lynch a go since Square Enix clearly aren't gonna do more with the IP. : (
I absolutely respect how Rockstar handled this iconic character. Showing Max risking his life for the sake of other people, for the sake of justice and giving him somewhat of a happy ending, it all put MP3 into a place where it really felt like a proper finale of his story
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Personally, I think setting a noir crime thriller in Sao Paulo was a brilliant idea.
It's really tiring that all of them are set in New York or nighttime/raining Chicago.
See, I maintain that the essence of noir is not in the visuals, but rather the story structure and the general attitude of the protagonist.
Watching Max Payne hate Sao Paulo from top to bottom wasn't as much genre bending as it was a reimagining of the essence of the genre itself.
I once read a sci-fi short story that took place in the time of the dinosaurs, millions of years ago. The main theme was the dinosaurs contemplating about the end of their era(due to dwindling organic resources) and the fact that very little, if any proof of their civilization will remain due to the fact that they built and wrote everything using organic materials while living a mostly nomadic lifestyle(the predators followed the herd that migrated from greenery to greenery)
By superficial appearances, the story isn't science fiction, but it fits the category nonetheless, and, if anything, it improves upon it by bringing radical new ideas.
That's what I think Max Payne 3 is.
It took a classic character from "blackwhiteredworld" and then transported it into one of the most colorful, vibrant, but also vapid, economically disparate regions of the world. The colors and the settings don't matter as much as the sardonic responses the main character has about his environment and situation.
See, Max is a noir character. He would remain a noir character even in the middle of the Rio Carnival. He could wear a three foot feathered headdress and a pink boa and he'd still be miserable.
Until the end... When he find peace of mind
Great comment
Now that end part is a funny mental image.
2:35 the soundtrack bangs so hard......you should take a look at Kane and Lynch it’s basically the low budget Max Payne.
Kane & Lynch is an ugly game.
@@thewarriors3048 "kane & lynch is an utterly irredeemable game."
Kane and Lynch is Max Payne if he took a lot of cocaine
And it hit hard. As in you can't shoot straight.
Extremely low amount of views for such a well crafted video, dont be discouraged tho you'll for sure find your audience in time
Edit: nevermind seems you already have XD
Mona, winterson, vinnie gognitti, and punchanelo were all mentioned in max payne.
5:10 Mona's grave can be found in the graveyard sequence and max makes some depressing remark about it
Mona is mentioned. When max is reminiscing at his wife and daughters grave
It would be amazing if Remedy bought back the rights to Max Payne. Those first two games are some of the best narrative driven third person shooters ever. OG Max Payne especially is a true classic. The dark noir theme, Max's overly poetic storytelling coupled with the 4th wall breaks were hilarious and a very memorable
I don't like 3 and I still don't like. I really wish Remedy didn't sell Max Payne to Rockstar. The story is pretty basic, you know right from the start that it's a member of the family that did the bullshit. I only liked the throwbacks part. The game is not funny, too serious. Max Payne 1&2 were tragic, noire and funny at the same time. Alan Wake feels mord like Max Payne than Max Payne 3
@@Densiozo I never played Max Payne 3 but based off the footage Ive seen it looks fun. Too many cutscenes though
@@brandonwooldridge1877 Just play Max Payne 1&2 and their mods. It's more fun
The title makes no sense - Max Payne 3 *is* part of the trilogy.
It doesn't feel like it belongs in a trilogy with the other two games.
@@MaynardCrow Sure, but it's a disconnect from a trilogy. That would only work if there were three previous games (a trilogy) and it didn't belong with them.
Honestly, the game is AWESOME, I’d give anything to play it.
It should be re-released on current and next gen consoles.
It should be given mouse and keyboard support. It can be very punishing on controller
@@Disissid19
Yes in some cases.
@@Disissid19 It's on PC. You just have to put up with Rockstar Social Club. Honestly the shooting and mechanics are pretty on point.
You can play it on next gen.
Being the first I played in the trilogy, I have to say it's a perfect and awesome game...now I wait for the remake of 1 and 2
BTW, Rockstar DID acknowledge the events of MP2 in a graphic novel that serves as a prequel to MP3.
I like the charm of 3 of the dirty brutal parts of Brazil where it's last place you want to be and the shoddy camera effects with the glitch adds to the dirty and ugly feel of the game it's going for, it's one place max didn't want to be and it shows
I honestly felt like the Max Payne portrayal in this game was what let it down the most in terms of being a strong title in the series. For example, he's a seasoned detective, and yet he can't put 2 and 2 together that he's being used until the very end of the game? Seemed ridiculous, and just a way to piece the plot together more conveniently.
Plus the charm of Max Payne's noir-esque one-liners and cheesy wisecracks was what really made Payne such a memorable and irreverent protagonist, and it's replaced by what feels like a cheap imitation of those tropes (read: crass and expletive-laden).
Having said that, I really enjoyed the game itself.
I mean, he was drinking and popping pills for the majority of the game. Not exactly gonna solve any cases on that stuff.
@@carnagepool7564 If he’s sober enough to pick up a gun, he should be sober enough to see the writing on the wall with Paso et al.
@@hatman3636 a lot of people use guns while under the influence, the fuck?
@@carnagepool7564 he doesn’t understand who max payne is. Bro sees himself as a failure, hes far from perfect.
Pretty late to the party, but seems that Max is Sorta autopiloting for the whole time he is in San Paulo until he gets to talk to De Silva.
He says that he never stopped to think about what was going on during the mission in Panama he was so disconnected that he was there only to get payed and disappear when he could retire essentially.
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Sam Lake as Max was Iconic, Timothy Gibbs and James McCaffrey, the latter also being the voice, were exceptional at visually being Max, but it was Sam Lake who wrote Max Payne the best, he made Max Payne even more depressing than GTA IV, and that was the story and atmosphere of Max Payne all the time. It wasn't the actor, it was the writer, Dan Houser was good writer, especially when you look at games like the more famous GTA series, but Max Payne 3 just felt like GTA V in mood, it lost the iconic Depression that Lake had put into the game
The entire point of the game is Max saving a cop and his family from another gang and redeems himself from his failure to save his own.
It would have been boring and repetitive if it was set in NY again. The new locations are what made the gameplay more fresher.
I think it's one of the best games ever made .
I feel that the max payne trilogy emulates the evolution of the action movie genre. With Max Payne, it was an homage to cheesy Hong-Kong action movies, it didn't take itself very seriously, and had some ridiculous elements, like the goofy facial expressions and dialogue. Max Payne 2 obviously had a more noir aesthetic, the game took itself more seriously, and was overall more realistic and less silly than the first game. Max Payne 3 is like a more modern action movie, right down to the gameplay, first of all, the story takes itself very seriously, and the game is far more gritty and violent than the first 2 games. It also has modern action flick style set pieces, boat chases, explosions, crushing people with vehicles, shooting grenades, and ziplining while mowing down enemies.
It actually was the first game that took me a second chance to love! the difference shook me but as I played it again but I actually grew to love it as it is, despite how retcon it felt to me in terms of the series' established identity and lore. it stands on its own and I agree with that consensus.
I can get with the rest of the story (they tried to be different and I really appreciate that) but it actually pissed me off how Max brushed off Mona like that despite how remarkable her prescence was to her in the second game. She was a big help to your identity crisis but go off I guess? Still love his character though
Rest in peace James Mccafrey.
Max Payne 3's greatest flaw is that feels like a Rockstar game in story, direction, and gameplay instead of a Remedy game. I hope now that there is a Remake of the first two games coming out by Remedy - Hopefully that is still happening RIP James McCaffrey - that Remedy does their own Redux of 3.
The Remakes are still happening don't worry. It's just got a ways to go yet.
It's really not the weakest of the 3. It stands alone, separate from the other 2.
That’s why it’s the weakest.
It's the best in the series
Mona IS mentioned, but briefly. When Max is saying his goodbyes to his family, he mentions her, but doesn't exactly say which of the two endings of the second game was canon.
I actually like how disconnected it is. I feel like everything that could be said with Max Payne formula was already said with the first two games. If they made the third one be the similar to the two first it'd just feel lazy, they had to take risks and change it up
Mona business was mentioned in the game. They went with the ending where she died.
Remedy wanted a happy ending where she remains alive and live with Max.
For me Max Payne 3 is an alternative sequel a sort of bad ending for Max
RIP James McCaffrey
Played Max Payne as a child. Really fucked up my childhood, seeing his murdered wife and baby.. So obviously this is one of my favorite games. Never understood the people complaining about the 3rd entry tho. Yeah it was bright and colorful but the story itself was still dark and gritty. Only thing missing was Mona.
Excuse me? Mona Sax survives? What the actual fuck. It made sense to me that Max didn't wanna talk about Mona aside from mentioning her when visiting the grave of his family.
But if her survival is canon than... yea, that's ood.
In any case. The depature in style and setting was in my eyes a very neat idea that was executed mostly well.
Throwing Max into the unknown serves as the twisted holiday perfect for the years of midlife crisis he's been living through with no relief in sight other painkillers and booze.
And the glitch effects do serve a purpose aswell. They underline the sheer amount of drug fueled violence that bang as distorted, noisy memories in Max's head.
But aside from stellar action gameplay and the beautiful ugliness of this game I just loved that Max finally and actually won (again, didn't know about Mona...).
He can now leave the past behind him. Just like lyrics of TEARS urged him to do.
It's not canon
The multi-player was where the sauce was at , unique gameplay🔥🔥🔥
Max Payne 3 is still my only experience with the franchise. My local game shop had like over a dozen used copies of it for the 360 so I bought it on a whim for like 4 bucks. I found it to be a really frustrating experience and didn't have the patience to finish it. If I had paid more for it I probably would have stuck it out but I just said screw it and instead played through the other game I bought that day, The Evil Within.
What an awesome, well done video. You touched on my biggest issue with the game, the cutscenes. It makes replaying a chore as I'm going through the trilogy again. Still pretty cool that the worst game is still a phenomenal game tho
Max Payne series, SpecOps The Line, and Wolfenstein The New Order are the only "serious" video games that I respect.
This was a great send off to Max. Even though this series doesn’t NEED a sequel, a remaster would be nice in the future.
There needs to be remakes of Max Payne and Max Payne 2 and a remaster of Max Payne 3
What you got wrong is that Mona is briefly mentioned once in the opening Cinematic "I still hadn't forgiven myself for the Mona business but I knew that was in pure grief"
I mean yeah Max Payne 3 feels like it's disconnected because it's disconnected. It takes place in a different city with different people that speak different language so as the player and the character you feel disconnected, you don't know what's going on you don't know who's is who and that's what Rockstar was aiming to achieve. Even Max have lines about him feeling like a fish out of water. Solid video anyways appreciate your work.
He's just your friendly neighborhood Max Payne
Mr hammers smashes in once again! It has been a while but glad to see you put the cherry on this max Payne retrospective cake. Great work bro this is fantastic.
Thanks my dude. Much appreciated, it feels good to conclude this series
Don’t care what some people say, the entire Max Payne trilogy is an absolute gem. Just pure unadulterated violence coated in a thick layer of poetic caramel narration.
When I played Max Payne 3, I almost forgot that Max to the Payne in this game is the same character from the other two previous games.
Mona gets mentioned in: Ain't No Reprievement Gonna Be Found Otherwise
Max did shoot his fellow detective but she was corrupt and working for the cleaners right?
I cherish and love Max Payne 1. I have mixed feelings about Max Payne 2. I was very apprehensive about Max Payne 3 but in the end I felt like it's not only the best of the trilogy but it also does the character so much justice. Especially in combination with the music. Towards the end, when Tears starts to play... it hits so hard.
Max Payne ended his story, let him live in peace. Let him sit on a beach somewhere thinking about the past, drinking a soda when he'd much rather have a whiskey living a quiet life
His story was already done by MP2. He found his peace and accepted his loss. It was time to move on but 3 comes barralleing in and undoes all of that
Max Payne IMHO doesn't need a sequel. What else is there for him to do? I think the 3 we have are more than enough, and I definitely understand what you mean when you say there's a disconnect, but I took that as a part of the overall ambiance. Max is in a WHOLE different part of the world. He's been there for a while and yet he's still a fish out of water. And I do think that they kind of addressed Mona and maybe his family in the game. In the beginning when he's in Mope Mode and he's staring at the picture: we never see what that picture is. We don't know if it's Mona or his wife. And then he says to himself "let it go" let what go? The pain of his past? The pain of Mona? His wife again? That's what I was thinking the 1st time I saw that. I would like to read the comics though, especially since Sam Lake had a hand in making them
Heartbreaking that this game isn’t available for newer consoles.
it is by retrocompatibility in the Xbox Series, but it's sad that it wasn't available in every platform.
Max Payne 3 is written as if Max Payne 2 never happened. Remedy probably said that the 'Mona' lives ending of Max Payne 2 was canon so that Max Payne 3 could not be canon
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Love max payne 3 . Its like a die hard video game . Wish it was on ps4
Hell yes been waiting for this! 😀
Thanks fam
To me it felt like a good change that Max working as someone's personal bodyguard and done with cop work, but somehow chaos always found him. one of the best 3rd person linear shooting game of 2012. 🔥💯 I still hope rockstar atleast drop this on current and last gen with 60fps update.
I don't think I interpreted the ending of Max Payne 3 to be a particularly happy one if I'm being perfectly honest. While seen as horrible people, yes, the airport chapter is when he completely embraces his trauma and rage for a cause he only pretends to care about: an outlet for his penchant for extreme violence. Max simply refused to walk away at several moments, finding any piss poor excuse to continue his rampage over people he completely despised for the most part. As you said in the first Max Payne video, vengeance isn't going to resolve his deep psychological issues. He is seen walking off into the sunset with nothing except a duffel bag, and the very song that accompanied a bullet ridden massacre from during the airport chapter. If you check out the lyrics to the song it can be suggested the words are being said to Max by his wife/daughter.
I suppose they wanted it to remain somewhat ambiguous, he doesn't kill Victor or Passos, the drink at the bar is one of the in game universe guarana sodas. You could also argue that his sobriety only makes him more dangerous as he's more cognitively and physically capable now. Maybe comparable to the real life alcoholics who kick the booze and only become more of a miserable asshole since the trauma of their past remains, whether they acknowledge it or not. If they were to make a fourth Max Payne then I don't see why he should survive the journey. It's probably best they keep it as a trilogy in my opinion. Keep it at least somewhat ambiguous.
That intro hits different now that Dan left Rockstar. His writing is legendary
Mediocre at best honestly
@@nild9153 couldn't agree more
@@nild9153 Considering GTA IV or Niko Bellic alone, I can't agree. Dan's style just didn't fit Max Payne as good.
@@MerlautJones Yeah, he's a great writer. I think the GTA games all show it but Max Payne is not his style
I think a lot the plot holes the third game creates could have been resolved by just being a prequel (1-3-2), mp2 has a really conclusive ending.
MP3 could have been a better Max Payne-esque game with another main character. An alarming amount of elements in the game just doesn't really work with Max, but they could work extremely well with some one else. Hell, I would be thrilled to play a fresh action shooter about a brazilian ex-cop.
Max payne 1 was the best. I would love a time machine back to its release again.
Max Payne 3 should have started from where Max Payne 2 left off.
Max is officially off the force, even with the evidence that Winterson was working with Vlad.
This is by orders of the new police chief, who we later find out is more crooked/corrupt than anyone in the series.
With everything that's taken place, Max decides to officially retire and move somewhere nice. But before he leaves, he wants to attend Alfred Wodens funeral to pay respects.
However, while at the funeral, assassins make an attempt on his life(this is the 1st level)
After that, Max is determined to find out who ordered the hit on him, so he looks at the usual suspects, the mafia.
At this point, there is a war between the Punchinello and Demarco families over what was Vlads turf.
So Max starts there and runs into Passos early on.
He also runs into a female that Mona rescued from the Russians sex trafficking ring many years ago(this would be a flashback mission to play as Mona).
She tells Max that the new chief ordered the hit but the inner circles new leader is behind everything, including the mob war.
His plan was to have the mafia fight each other, then have the inner circles mercenaries clean up whoever is left, take over everything and remodel it(same plan as Ultor from SR2).
He also wanted Max killed because he knows to much and he couldn't risk it.
Now Max, Passos and the female goes after the inner circle(this is the last chapter).
Once he's dead along with the police chief, Max gives all the info he has accumulated over the years to the Governor and he leaves for South America.
To me, Max Payne 3 is an incredible gourmet slice of rich, delicious, multi-layered cake. Prepared by some of the greatest pastry chefs in the world. Great, tasty, but not something you want to have all the time. Just something to occasionally get.
Max Payne 1 and 2, are Grandma's apple pie. It may be rough around the edges, but the imperfections give it the character it needs and you never want to turn down a slice whenever it's offered. It's addicting because it's comforting and brings back great childhood memories.
Just depends what you're in the mood for but they are vastly different experiences.
So, I saw you video in recomended and I liked it. Also you motivated me to playe Max Payne 3, though I haven't played 1 and 2. I'll do it eventually, anyway thanks for video!
Thanks! Max Payne 3 is amazing all on its own, no need to play the first 2 at all, I highly recommend them, but I understand a lot of people may be turned off by the dates graphics and such. Have fun with Max Payne 3!
@@MrHammers well, I don't care about graphics, I like retrogaming, and I'm playing a lot of old games of ps1-ps2 era. Though yeah, sometimes it might be problems with gameplay but this is other question already.
Oh nice! Ps1-ps2 era had some of the best games there is. Games I grew up with haha
"..I don't speak your F*CKING LANGUAGE!!!"
This is a great review to wrap up three of my favorite games ever. Great work on the videos man. Also, do you have a reference for Remedy saying Mona surviving was canon? I'm curious about it.
It might have been a decent game if it let you play the damn game. I have nothing against Max Payne 3 mechanically but the constant interruptions and cutscene really soured the experience. The writing is another thing that I couldn't stomach. Dan House wouldn't know nuance if it pissed in his mouth.
MP3 is basically a masterpiece
Can you provide the source for Mona's death not being canon? I've heard (although I can't find any legitimate sources) and assumed that she dies considering it's the default ending and her being alive is only unlocked by beating it for the third time on the hardest difficulty.
Also, I'm guessing you don't know about the comics? They explain a bunch of what you say is never explained.
Great set of videos, by the way man
I swear I found an interview with Lake talking about Mona and which ending is canon, but I can't find it now. Maybe I am mistaken though. Even in the ending where she dies Max comes to peace with his family's death, and he feels at peace and in Max Payne 3 he is distraught and still haunted by it. No proper follow up either way, I do feel silly though about saying it's canon- I'll keep looking for where I found that.
And no I haven't seen the comics, I'll have to search for those as well and check em out. Thanks dude!
@@MrHammers I've seen that critisism alot about how he's finally at peace at the end of the second game and how it's thrown out the window for the third game, and I agree to a certain extent, but the same thing happens between the first and second game. At the end of the first game Max says that "his demons released him from his haunting" and that "the ragged clouds gave way to the stars above" after he gets his revenge. This seems to suggest that he's now at peace with himself, however, in the comic strip Max Payne's Past in the menu of Max Payne 2 he says that he was lying to himself and that it wasn't over yet. So to me it's not out of character or even that strange that, even after MP2s ending, Max still can't get over all the tragedies in his life and falls back into his depression.
Anyway, your content is pretty good and I'm sure you will blow up one day, good luck!!
@@robbyraystewart6978 i agree. its not a stretch to see why max might not ever be over his wife and kid being murdered. but it would be interesting to see why and who he'd be fighting in a 4th game.
@@sublime90 Max Payne must have enough PTSD to fill up 100 psychiatrist's offices.
I might be in the big minority of people that think Rockstar didn't represent São Paulo well. I am from Guarulhos (a city in the São Paulo state), but i visited the capital many times and can say that it's not a Rio de Janeiro 2.0 with a big favela right beside it.
Can I get a link to Remedy confirming that Mona Sax surviving is canon?
I wasnt a huge fan of 3 for one reason....20 mins of cutscene followed by 5 mins of gameplay lol first half of the game followed this trend for a while unskippable cutscenes that dragged on to hide loading times followed by a quick intense firefight followed by yet more scenes.
Despite the criticism I still loved this game next to any GTA. It’s not Remedy’s version but it is a version from Rockstar when they did care
As a Brazillian I can also say that a few of the PT BR voices are kinda bad, but, they totally nailed the drug dealers agressive slang and I guess most of you gringos would have fun translating their cursing, so for the most part the voices we're pretty neat!
It was sad seeing this game in the $5 bin at Walmart less than a year after it’s release
Damn, it was discounted that fast?
@@MrHammers yup not many friends of mine that were also huge Max Payne fans bought the game when it came out plus a lot of players hated the multiplayer aspect of the game which is why it was placed in the $5 bin so fast due to sales not being so great for this game. As for me I still enjoyed it a bit just wish I waited a year instead to save myself $65+ lol
Max Payne 3 is the only game in the series I've finished. I dabbled with 1 and 2 but now I feel like going back, really playing, and finishing them.
Max payne 3 has the bes ragdoll physics in a rockstar game ever other than the first red dead redemption
I loved this game. It is a well polished game and the story is truly amazing and was controversial. Rock Star knocked this out of the ball park.
I'm so happy that Microsoft decided to have all 3 Max Payne games on the XBOX backwards compatibility.
I disagree with you on the way Max Payne 3 is a disconnect from other two games. In my opinion, it's as much neo-noir as the other two games - despite being basked in the sun and flora of Sao Paulo, it's still as dirty and ugly as the crime-ridden, rotten New York, maybe even more so, because we are shown the conspiracy of the top 1% in the first game and in this one, as well as how bad it is in the slums and how it is somewhat due to the rich that the poor are this way. It has the dame (not a femme fatale admittedly, but it definetly would be out of place in MP3) that needs help - a trope Max can't just avoid. And it's just as grounded as the other two games are, considering there is a whole secret government facility in 1, explosive filled mansion in 2 and a paranoid theme park in both.
But most of all this series is about, well, Max Payne, and in here, Rockstar couldn't have done it better. There is literally nothing bad or wrong about this story when it comes to the character, they stayed true to Max, and it's a wise and correct decision to end the game the way it is, on a high note and not turning the franchise into something strange. As a fan of the series and a character, I couldn't have hoped for a better outcome.
FYI to those who may not know. Remedy and Rockstar games are currently remaking Max Payne 1 & 2 for next gen consoles
I thought the game had some interesting meta elements just like the previous 2.
The fact the events of those games made international news that drew the interest of a crime ring that could use Max as a stooge was really interesting
Actually, Max did acknowledge Mona in the game, it was kind of indirect though. He had mention a fling he had with a woman that was a killer, and that he had done this to try and help him forget about his dead wife and baby.
Is it just me or, Max Payne in the 3rd game looks like Tommy Angelo from Mafia Definitive Edition??
watching that airport scene here was engrossing, thank u
Remedy should make a Punisher Max game.
It might not be 100% true to the first 2 but I loved this game. It’s a good shooter at the time. And today it holds up.
Max Payne 3 is one of the best games I have played. It was a perfect piece of art.
8:50 "nightclubs that put ragnarock to shame"
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HE SAID IT
I love the seriousness & I don't think the lack of comic panels is a bad thing in my opinion.What happens to Mona is definitely puzzling though,although I think there's a vague comment made about her from Max but i can't remember what it was.
Considering the comment section and the video, this is going to be the unpopular opinion: I do not like Max Payne 3. 1 was a work of art that I never finished but still remember fondly for how it told its story and noire vibes. 2 was an iffy affair. 3's story was a mess... the change in writers shows. I found max to be a whiney character here. yes. whiney. the disconnect between whats going on and what max thinks is downright ridiculous.
Just a quick example: before a fight max will be bemoaning his situation, get into a gun fight like a freaking john wu movie, then be continuing on like "Oh im such a screwup"
it was increadibly frustrating to sit through from start to finish.
They say that third games are always more drasticly different to the formula and here thats certainly true, to the point of being a detriment.
if any further attempts at a max payne game were to be done, id sooner take a remaster of the first game than another rockstar triple A cash grab.
This game may bare the name Max Payne, but this was anything but Max Payne.
Honestly playing through 3 was a slog. the gameplay was more call of duty, or whatever cover shooter was trending at the time, narratively it seemed rather tone deaf due to the prior mentioned disconnect between characters and their actions. more call of duty spin off than max payne.
Hell the noire narration of max in the sunny streets of brazil was utterly tone deaf if you ask me; it just did not fit, and the fact it was played straight the whole time? Did not help.
I could go on but I think this explanation of a barely remembered gaming haze of dissapointment of a third game of a franchise who's first I remember so fondly, has run its course.
TL;DR, the writing was a mess, the setting did not fit the noire narration they were going for, and max's writing was a whiney disconnect from the reality of what was going on, hell they coulda gone with a drug induced power high and that woulda made a tonne more sense than the constant "Woe is me" BS we got throughout. This game was Forgetable and souless.
and the fact it forget the development of the second game? Thats just an extra smear on this one.