I understand the “journey, not the final stop” idea. A few years ago I lost 95 lbs- 275 lbs to 180 lbs. It took about a year. Daily cardio, heavy-ish weights, and precise daily meal prep. At the end, for the first time ever,(at 44 years old) I saw that my top 2 abs we’re just becoming visible. Two barely visible bumps. I thought wow, that’s nice. Now what? Looking back, the daily work I put in was the reward. Not the end result.
More training videos with JM please! It's seriously awesome and I remember when he really started getting into training differently well over a decade ago (he took me through a similar leg extension workout and biceps workout about 12 years ago). His information is gold and would love to see more.
JM is spot on with can you apply knowledge as a coach. I have no exercise science background but passed the CSCS because I have worked with and trained high school athletes for over a decade and have been training myself for 15 years. In order for the kids to get better, I had to get better as a coach. The more I learned about training I was secretly learning about exercise science. So when I went to study for the CSCS I was like, oh, ok, that is what the systems are doing when we do a specific movement. Everything made sense.
So hard to go home if you’re not optimal, (because I love to train!) I usually tweak my workout if I’m “off,” but I rarely don’t go. I’m still learning. Thank you Dave and JM
I would love to see a discussion with JM, Wenning, Wendler, Thibaudeau, Efferding, and some "mainstream" strength guy (Nuckols, Nippard, Schoenfeld, Layne Norton, etc)
I started my muscle journey with Mentzer style training. But that's not why I STAYED with it. I stayed because it was exactly what I learned in school, too. Then, I applied it daily and found myself being a competitive athlete because of it. It was true all the way through.
@manicmandownup I definately DO. At my strongest, I was bench pressing every 10 days. Taking a day extra between your current schedule is a good way to assess this. See if you, too, can benefit. It is based strictly upon intensity. Low intensity=short interval. High intensity=longer interval.
@@jm7thlevel237 I’ve personally been trying the higher intensity with an extra rest day. It’s really a good balance for me. I recall your six rep tricep push-downs with officer Shields from a few years back. Very good information, thank you.
What JM should have said regarding failure is "you can learn a lot from failure". Not everyone learns from failure. Mistakes are repeated, until lessons are learned.
Right. The truth is that some people "never" learn. From anything, no matter how harsh. But failure is a quick teacher. Pain as well. Repeating lessons may be how the universe operates, but I don't have a surplus of time for that. I think one error is our tuition. But that same error again is just waste. I'll try to avoid everyone/no one, everything/nothing, always/never statements. But I think you onow what I'm getting at.
Easy sets with high volume have a place in programs, but one must understand when and why to use them. Both tools can achieve the same goal, but using the right tool will optimize for time, effort and overhead.
It is not quite true that different tools accomplish the same task. That is the precise reason we have different tools; because they do different things, not the same thing. Try to unscrew a screw with a hammer, and you're in for a long, frustrating day. Maybe you mean to say that having different tools for different jobs is good. I'd agree. But low intensity,/high volume training can not unscrew a screw. It can't drive strength anymore than a hammer can polish glassware.
@@jm7thlevel237 The tool analogy was moreso about using a shovel to dig a pool, and a bulldozer to dig out a potato, both feasible yet ludicrous methods to achieve ones goal. But regardless of the implied analogy I stand corrected. Having had the pleasure to train my 55 year old mother for over a year, recovery from volume and prevention of overuse injuries have been a focal point.
you two are my favourite to listen too down here in Australia always been a fan of Dave since i started lifting in 2013 JM is always so insightful and Dave is as real as it gets which i fucken love thanks again fellas 💪💪
Re: Brexit, it’s more the ECHR that a true brexit would have delivered on. Also a better deal with fishing quotas to support UK fishing industry and ofc allowing access to trade with TPP and not being strongheld to EU.
most folks pay $$ for this info. these 2 gentlemen are stewards to our sport. sit down, shut up & listen. Dave trained me in 2001 - using VERY similar logic. truth does not change.
I wish you'd asked JM more about the Julius Maddox bench critique. I've just watched Julius do a 705 single with a long pause and while i dont have an expert eye, it looked pretty good to me.
JM thank you. I have terrible anxiety daily. Your insight to training the mind has helped me tremendously.
I understand the “journey, not the final stop” idea. A few years ago I lost 95 lbs- 275 lbs to 180 lbs. It took about a year. Daily cardio, heavy-ish weights, and precise daily meal prep. At the end, for the first time ever,(at 44 years old) I saw that my top 2 abs we’re just becoming visible. Two barely visible bumps. I thought wow, that’s nice. Now what?
Looking back, the daily work I put in was the reward. Not the end result.
Atleast you got 33% there before making excuses lol
@@Joe-wt6eh huh?
@@ShawnKeller-1 2 out of 6 ain't bad
@@Joe-wt6eh lol. I’ll take it.
JM. The metaphysical GOAT. So much to think about after everyone of his podcast apearances.
JM is the Barry White of lifting, when I got a girl over, I put on my JM records to set the mood.
Whats your success rate with that lmaooo
well all the girls left but I learnt a lot about lifting@@eliteftsofficial
Hahahah
That's hilarious
ALWAYS a great day when JM is on table talk 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 THANK YOU DAVE AND JM 💪
JM FOR LIFE
Mmmmmmmmm
More training videos with JM please! It's seriously awesome and I remember when he really started getting into training differently well over a decade ago (he took me through a similar leg extension workout and biceps workout about 12 years ago). His information is gold and would love to see more.
Needs to be a JM series where he breaks down aspects of life and trainning every week
JM is spot on with can you apply knowledge as a coach. I have no exercise science background but passed the CSCS because I have worked with and trained high school athletes for over a decade and have been training myself for 15 years. In order for the kids to get better, I had to get better as a coach. The more I learned about training I was secretly learning about exercise science. So when I went to study for the CSCS I was like, oh, ok, that is what the systems are doing when we do a specific movement. Everything made sense.
So hard to go home if you’re not optimal, (because I love to train!) I usually tweak my workout if I’m “off,” but I rarely don’t go. I’m still learning. Thank you Dave and JM
You should interview the merchant marine, codenamed : Hemingway or Jason Blaha. He's a record holding powerlifter in women's powerlifting.
I’ve heard he was a competitive bodybuilder back in his day too. All the evidence was sadly burned in a house fire though
@@Balakay_AdkinsIs Hemingway the one that mogs Sergei Nubret in person?
You weren’t there. His house was burned by the CIA to protect his past as a recruited sniper at 14 years old
I can’t believe I missed a JM table talk. I watched all the previous ones!
This is a vast amount of priceless information. It is a treasure trove every time this guy does a podcast. Respect.
I would love to see a discussion with JM, Wenning, Wendler, Thibaudeau, Efferding, and some "mainstream" strength guy (Nuckols, Nippard, Schoenfeld, Layne Norton, etc)
SWIS!
@@brutusdrobny4633 Touché!
Every episdoe is amazing but this one just has something special about it
Fantastic content J.M. And Dave Best ever!
This podcasts slaps brother Dave
What a great discussion. Lifting reflects life.
Nearly 4 hours! Also…isn’t this method along the lines of Mentzer’s methods?
I know I've heard JM reference Mentzer and/or Arthur Jones.
I started my muscle journey with Mentzer style training. But that's not why I STAYED with it. I stayed because it was exactly what I learned in school, too. Then, I applied it daily and found myself being a competitive athlete because of it. It was true all the way through.
@@jm7thlevel237 do you suggest the prolonged rest periods, too? As far as the days between workouts goes…
@manicmandownup I definately DO. At my strongest, I was bench pressing every 10 days. Taking a day extra between your current schedule is a good way to assess this. See if you, too, can benefit. It is based strictly upon intensity. Low intensity=short interval. High intensity=longer interval.
@@jm7thlevel237 I’ve personally been trying the higher intensity with an extra rest day. It’s really a good balance for me. I recall your six rep tricep push-downs with officer Shields from a few years back. Very good information, thank you.
2:59:08 When Dave said “They don’t owe me anything” that did it for me man, that was hard as fuck! 🔥💪🏻
What JM should have said regarding failure is "you can learn a lot from failure". Not everyone learns from failure. Mistakes are repeated, until lessons are learned.
Right. The truth is that some people "never" learn. From anything, no matter how harsh. But failure is a quick teacher. Pain as well. Repeating lessons may be how the universe operates, but I don't have a surplus of time for that. I think one error is our tuition. But that same error again is just waste. I'll try to avoid everyone/no one, everything/nothing, always/never statements. But I think you onow what I'm getting at.
I'm trying to find the video you mentioned by Mike Israetel / RP. I cannot seem to find it. Any chance of getting a link?
Channeling JM to be my inner voice!
When is Dorian Yates coming on?😉
Plz Dave
Best talk thus far!
The bomb-shell takeaway; JM listens to James O'Brien!!😁😁 yet another superb table talk
Great discussion over some Liga Privadas
Easy sets with high volume have a place in programs, but one must understand when and why to use them.
Both tools can achieve the same goal, but using the right tool will optimize for time, effort and overhead.
It is not quite true that different tools accomplish the same task. That is the precise reason we have different tools; because they do different things, not the same thing. Try to unscrew a screw with a hammer, and you're in for a long, frustrating day. Maybe you mean to say that having different tools for different jobs is good. I'd agree. But low intensity,/high volume training can not unscrew a screw. It can't drive strength anymore than a hammer can polish glassware.
@@jm7thlevel237
The tool analogy was moreso about using a shovel to dig a pool, and a bulldozer to dig out a potato, both feasible yet ludicrous methods to achieve ones goal. But regardless of the implied analogy I stand corrected.
Having had the pleasure to train my 55 year old mother for over a year, recovery from volume and prevention of overuse injuries have been a focal point.
Wohoo more JM!!!
I was laughing so damn hard at the telemarketer part.
JM's beard is yin and yang. Zen master of the barbell
wonder if there are any surviving videos of JM's 710 bench, far as I can find there's none
Big fan
Extreme minimization…..JM is amazing what a different view point…thank you for sharing
“We want the feeling!” JM
We can always use more JM
you two are my favourite to listen too down here in Australia always been a fan of Dave since i started lifting in 2013 JM is always so insightful and Dave is as real as it gets which i fucken love thanks again fellas 💪💪
3:44:00 of JM content? Let’s go
Re: Brexit, it’s more the ECHR that a true brexit would have delivered on. Also a better deal with fishing quotas to support UK fishing industry and ofc allowing access to trade with TPP and not being strongheld to EU.
3x3 all day baby.
Has JM looked into Ayurveda for some relief from the arthritis? The use of moringa works wonders for some too.
most folks pay $$ for this info. these 2 gentlemen are stewards to our sport. sit down, shut up & listen. Dave trained me in 2001 - using VERY similar logic. truth does not change.
I wish you'd asked JM more about the Julius Maddox bench critique. I've just watched Julius do a 705 single with a long pause and while i dont have an expert eye, it looked pretty good to me.
I think he was saying because he's so big and one a million freak that his form shouldn't be your form. Not many people in the world weigh 450 pounds.
i got a 405lb Rock!
So much truth being disseminated
Aw I love you and jm. But sounds a bit off 😕
This guy talks like he is whispering in a woman's ear.
Can anybody tell me the name of the video they filmed before this podcast? They were doing smooth reps or something. Thank you.
Weird every time
Why's that lol
🤣
Brain has to think , so it feels weird as the deep life values are unearthed by thinking about your own training. Too much sauce not enough pasta
@@Sizen_nepal he doesn’t..he’s just a rambling weird ass and he always has been
No. *You* just don't have the mental capacity to understand@@chuckatley1464