Is this the new KING of STREAM? The EVERSOLO DMP-A8 Review and Comparisons! Way better than the A6?
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Today I talk about the new Eversolo DMP-A8 Digital Music Streamer which also houses a high end AKM DAC that brings more warmth with an immersive and sweet sound vs the DMP-A6. The preamp here is also very nice as is the fact that the app made for this is now my favorite app from any company that makes music streamers. Yea, It's good.
In this video I compare it to the DMP A-6 and the $5200 HiFi Rose RS130 Flagship Streamer, that doesn't even have a DAC! I also compare it to the DMP-A6!
Eversolo has been kicking butt and taking names with these new line of streamers and today I want to share my thoughts on the newest DMP-A8.
Enjoy!
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I think I would absolutely go broke listening to this guy.
110%. Practically everything he reviews is very expensive and he’ll call them “budget.” It’s a but ridiculous. I recall him calling a $5000 amplifier a budget amp. I think to 99% of people, that’s expensive.
The more Steve’s reviews I read/see the more I’m convinced that there are nothing else than audio advertisements.
Streamer, DAC, Preamp, and Network & Storage Device!! That last descriptive detail always gets left out of its name!!
Thanks again for a clean and direct review! Have a nice weekend!!
You as well and thank you!
Thank you so much for review, you are the only one who talks about Eversolo A8 + Pass lab x250.8, great talks and I hope that I can hear more comparisons with this setup! Thanks
Cool! I just bought the passlabs int-60. pumped!
Awesome review, very clear and great comparison.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have a A8 and love it.The only thing missing is a sub out in the pre amp.I use HDMI/ARC for my 2.2 channel(2 rel subs) for theater/TV.The over all control and functions are definitely outstanding.Great review!
Thanks for the review!
As always top review. You are the best. I've Always bene tempted by the Rose 150B. Now with this new competitor a more difficult choice. What do you racommend between the two?
Thanks for this review.
Subjectively, would you expect better sound quality and listener experience from DMP-A8 as all-in-one using onboard DAC and taking advantage of DSP, or, DMP-A8 as streamer outputting via I2S (which bypasses the internal DAC and also bypasses the onboard DSP) to the Denafrips Venus II 12th-1. Second option uses much better DAC but looses the benefit of DSP. So what do you think?
I have the a6 mated to a Gustard R26. Great combination with the R2R sound.
Was this unit gifted to you by the Eversolo distributor?
Great review - I really like it! Just now I'm not sure what to buy as a WiFi streamer (Eversolo DMP A6, A8, Blusound Node), that feeds my RME ADI-2 DAC FS which I use as a headphone amp (Meze Empyrean). Is the A8 such a BIG step up compared to the A6? Is the Node worth considering at all in this setup?
I thought I saw an analog input as well, that seems to be another feature worth considering/reviewing.
I'm more than happy with my master edition a6 the limitations of my stereo and the accustics of my room means that the a8 would not improve the sound that much ,so i would not be able to justify the extra expense as fantastic the a8 might be great review and thanks for sharing
i love that replied thanks😊
If you think the A8 is better than the A6 mainly because of its DAC with AKM chips, then I would rather try another external DAC with AKM chips to achieve the same results. Right now, I am using a DAC with Sabre's ES9039MS Pro chip, so I can understand the A6 may sound a little forward and lean bright. I am just of the opinion the sweet spot for Eversolo is around the A6 either regular or Master Edition price point. Once you push it up to around the US$2K mark, personally I am already thinking HiFi Rose RS 250 with its 8.8" screen as well as "made in Korea" over "made in China" build quality.
I tested the rs250 as a streamer only, sounds less than the a8 digital. and noticable!!! BUT I connected it to a 8000 euro dac. And don’t forget the software, I hated the hifi rose app, and missing features set. Maybe the 130 does, but that is more than double the price
For the reasons you mentioned the A8 is probably my next upgrade but I really only care about about it's qualities as a streamer and to a lesser extent it's controle of my subwoofer ,the rest is verry pleasant bonus.
I was just starting to save for the Moon mind 2 until I heard of the A8 ; purely on sound which would you choose? If context helps I have the RME ADI 2 and an integrated valve amp with Focal speakers.
Our approach to sound I think is similar so your opinion or better still a comparison would be grate.
Could I record the Analog Input pair (L/R) with a computer using USB Digital Output?
I write some music and need a audio interface. I'd like to know if the SMP-8 could be my streamer, also my audio interface.
Someone should make a series on how to take full advantage of all the features and capabilities of the A8!
Great review as always. How does it compare to the Lumin D2?
A8 it is definitely better.
how does it compare to the A6 MASTER with beatechnik LPS I LIKE your thoughts on that or just the master a6
I've been looking for a streamer/dac/pre-amp with arc-HDMI and analogue input. This one seems to fit the bill. But I will be really upset if I buy the A8 now and 6 months later they release a A8 Master Version.....
Hi, if you are using just headphones with valve headphones amp, which would you go for between rose and a8? Hope you can help
Like MANY i use a receiver with built-in dac ( mine Yamaha RX-A3070 aventage ) but i use an extern amp for front ( Counterpoint SA-12 upgraded ) HOW can i be sûre that this DMP-8 DAC clearly beat the ESS-Sabre dac inside my receiver ?? I think use both if this Eversolo do a CLEARLY better job in stereo music mode. In resume did this DMP-8 do a better job than the combo preamp-dac in my Aventage receiver ?? Really need answer... 🙏🙏🙏🤞🤟
I use the iFi Neo as you gave it a great review. I don't feel so bad as the A6 guys because it looks like there is no Roon support and that's what I need
Both Eversolo units work with Roon. I just Googled it. ✌️
is it possible to display album artwork only ie without any text, skip/back buttons etc?
but how does it stack up against the master edition a6? since the master has the same clock etc it whould be mutch closer i think then the standard a6 witch i have also tryd before buying the master edition. if you can do a listen plz do =)
Had mine for one week. Distortion only removed by turning off DSP, or doing a factory reset. And now bluetooth failed?!
I am going to return it
What's an alternative - less features maybe but XLR out, and able to "emote" ?
The best digital streamer I heard is the Wattson Emerson Digital. Swiss engineering and clocking at it’s best. You should try one.
Just wait for another six months and you will see A9!
😫 I know right! 😫
Wait another 12 months and you’ll see the A10 with more ‘refinement’
I hope so
Exactly.People are idiots.
Interested to know how it compare to U2.
Have you tested/tried the Parametric EQ?
Will this improve my music sound any if I’m currently using appletv to an MRX1140?
One feature that's most definitely missing is subwoofer management. Not an issue if you've got full range main speakers, but for those running stand mounts + subs, it's a biggy.
NAD M66 for the win in the full feature streamer / pre-amp category.
Yes, but literally 3 times the price. Not worth it IMO. Not when you can buy a Minidsp SHD. Which will take care of all that. Including the DAC for the subs. They're about $1200, or a little more. ✌️
Someone knows if the analogs inputs are by-pass (to connect to HC preamp) ?
I hope you can get your hands on a DMP-A6 Master Edition to see how it compares to the A8.
A6 Master has 5 USD more expensive OPAMP, better clock and 500 USD gold logo. That is all the difference.
The a8 had a way waaaayyy better analogue stage, I tested. And digital it sounds better to, don’t forget the upgrades power supply and i2s digital out bus
Wow! Has it got a proper shuffle feature?
Thanks for the review. I have an Auralic Aries G1 streaming to a Holo May DAC. Keep thinking of upgrading these, but its going to take a lot to make an improvement, but this looks like a fantastic option for someone who wants to get a high quality streaming dac and the fact it has an analog preamp is a bonus. However, not seeing anything about it being Roon certified?
It works with Roon. I just Googled it.
Nice piece. Can it do CD ripping with an appropriate CD deck? And one minor quibble: No dedicated pre-out for a powered subwoofer.
Yes.... buy a usb powered dvd player.....
Buy a "mini dsp HD" ..... 2 trs in and 4 out..... use 2 for your subs, and the remainder for whatever you need.....
If your not going to use the "pre outs" for anything, just launch the signal to your subs direct, as i dont think it will be a "line out" config, possibley options for them in settings menu.... ie a toggle....
Use xlr connections and one of them small crown amps to drive speakers.... or use xlr for a pair of "active studio speakers".....
Problems solved 👌 👍🏻🙂....
Could you please test / compare the Atoll ST300 Signature pre-amp / dac / streamer - here in Europe it is doing rather well in the USD 3’000-class 😊👌
Thought I was watching a review on the A8 not the A6 definitely learned more about the A6 then A8
I am building a second system and will be getting an DMP-A8. I am very interested on how the A8 will compare to my reference Cary Audio DMS-700 with AKM AK4499EQ DACs(~$6k).
What would you recommend for a headphone amp to go with it?
Dac based on PCM 179X are best. Musicality over details
What's your opinion of the Brennan B3+ please
How does it compare with the Rose 150B High Performance Network Streamer?? My best. Dan.
A comparison with Auralic Altair or devices from Lumin would be nice...
No need ... both are outdated AF ...
How are Eversolo and Rose software dealing with compilation albums? Just asking because I have a Cocktail Audio X35 and my 1300 ripped CD's were completely messed up after their last firmware update. How responsive are these two companies in case of firmware issues? CA is not answering their customers and even some of their distributors since a few years, so looking for a new all in one device which can rip, save and organize my music on a built in SSD also.
Weird that A6 can output DSD Multichannel and the A8 cannot
I wonder on sound alone how does the Naim Uniti Atom compare?
Looks great. Problem is it's nearly 2 grand in 'rip off Britain' and we all just know that within 3 month the competition will respond with a better product and cheaper.
That's TOTALLY true... and is the curse of anyone wanting to buy new technology. If you keep waiting 3 months for the newer cheaper thing, you'll never buy anything.
comapring the RS130 vs EVERSOLO DMP-A8 what connection did you use? I2S? please if you can answer
I2S is the best if you listen to hi-res DSD files or SACD. For common CD rips it is not needed.
I am excited to get one and install the nvme drive, then put my full res DSD files on it. That way I am not using Bluetooth, usb cables etc. Just straight to the amp.
What I would be interested in is, will the Eversolo (A6, A8) still work in 4 or 5 years? What happens if, like with cell phones, there are no more updates? Can these devices still be used at all? China is far away from Germany where I live.
Genauso wird es sein. Wahrscheinlich wird es gar nicht vier Jahre halten, sondern schon nach Ablauf der Garantie massenhaft Probleme geben. Die Geräte benutzen Android 11 wie mir bekannt ist , und das ist jetzt schon veraltet. Die Hersteller sind ja jetzt schon dabei mit ständigen Updates die Probleme in den Griff zu bekommen
My DMP-A6 has received a number of updates and even new features. I've also seen Eversolo responding to bug reports/feature requests on a couple of different audio forums. I'd contrast this with NAD who never delivered promised functionality for my C-658 and ignored bug reports for years. Forums are abuzz with similar complaints about some of their other products. I can't guaranty the A6/A8 will be receiving support in 4 years, but I can say that if you judge Eversolo by their actions and not their location you'll find that they already outperform some industry stalwarts with their responsiveness to customers.
It has a remote control, you do not need a phone.
Misses HQPlayer endpoint unfortunately :(
Will a TV power on/off the DMP A8 via its HDMI ARC input ?
It should do, thats standard arc's job....
Could I transfer my DSD files over to it and play them directly from it? Right now I play them from a desktop computer over usb. I’m assuming that this would be allot less “noise” than a computer. Thank you for your videos.
Yes that works fine. You can transfer to internal SSD (the Crucial P3 works fine / need to buy extra) and you can play DSF or ISO
I wish it would allow more than 4tb though ☹️
Where to buy in the US?
Thanks
I hear they been giving these products to reviewers to keep. Is that true for you?
You bet.
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How does it compare to Cambridge audio cxn100?
Great review.
Love those Christmas trees in your listening room.
If you are connecting to an AVR, for example Anthem MRX 1140, would you use the DAC in the A8 or the DAC in the AVR?
I have the same set up. The MRX doesn't process MQA files, so I use the Eversolo DAC. It sounds amazing. It probably isn't worth buying the A8 or A6 if you're using the Anthem DAC.
How do how do you bypass the Dac in the anthem? I have the MRX 740. I’m really interested in this.
@@jordanmacfarlane5807 if you use the analog out to the anthem, you’re using Eversolo dac and then anthem as the amplifier only. If connected via digital outputs like the hdmi or optical out, the digital signal will be processed via the anthem dac.
@@jordanmacfarlane5807 no idea, I’ve just heard people mention about bypassing it
@@jordanmacfarlane5807it’s the same way you would bypass most internal dacs of any product. You use the digital outs to your external dac.
Whitout a doubt
How does the Cambridge Audio CXN V2 compare ?
It really doesn't. It's outdated at this point. And over priced too now. ✌️
@@amb3cogsecond that. One of the most overrated pieces of gear of the last 5 years
Can you please compare it with Cambridge Audio CXN v2?
The CXN uses a DAC that's like a hundred years old. Seriously my Cambridge Blu-ray player from 10 years ago has the exact same innards... so this is going to blow the doors off that device.
@@scottmuhlbaier1945 I was talking using the CXN as a streamer only with a separate Dac. Please advise if streamers from different brands (DIGITAL SIGNAL) sound different
Supposedly yes it makes a difference... but it will be miniscule. Sounds like you're just using the nice screen and streaming software of the unit...that should be fine.
@@akispapasavvas9307
@akispapasavvas9307
Easch DAC has its own house signiture and depending on the parts used, they can sound many times better or worse depending on your budget.....
@mohammedisaa9952 still no answer if using the CXN or other units as streamers (transport ) only. No internal DAC. Is there a sound difference ?
Do you guys think there will be a master edition and one should wait buying?
If you want to pay 500 USD more for a logo in gold...
@@milanstastny6799 I see, you dont value quality. the master edition was a improvement over the standard A6 - the reviews basicaly agreed on that. or what is your argument?
@@jaempilang They choosed better clock ACCUSILICON = 65 USD X 2, better OPAMP TI OPA1612 = 5 USD x 2, the rest is gold for the logo.
This is not a desktop product, yet is just one more of dozens of streamers on the market without a 12V trigger. I'm reduced to buying the WiiM Ultra that isn't even out yet.
Hi! Does the A8 support MQA? MVH/Peter
Yes
How do you connect subs?
Buy a mini dsp hd, and use the audio trs outputs 🙂👍🏻
How does the Dac compare to the Pontus?
I’m curious about this as well.
Pontus is R2R DAC. Completely different technology.
Dosent the A8 use a ladder dac? R2R
@@mohammedisaa9952 A8 does not have R2R DAC like Denafrips. Only the volume control is R2R, that is something else.
@@7higer if you compare Denafrips 2000 USD R2R DAC to EVERSOLO 2000 USD streamer/DAC/preamp/memory storage/touch display what DAC do you expect will be better?
What about the Lumin U2 mini ver the 8 ?
Tested them both, looking for streaming. The a8 sounded better, yes also as a streamer
Can you use it as a streamer only and still use the dsp/eq?
Yes
Dsp dosent work on analogue connections..... only on digital inputs
Can Eversolo A8 play Apple Lossless with the original resolution?
Yes it can using the native app
"Everybody´s hustling"... What a song! :-)
I just got a Eversolo DMP - A8 and it sounds harsh!
I tried using the parametric EQ and everything that I could find on the unit to try and make it less harsh but it seems that most of it has zero effect. It seems as if they EQ and sound adjustment does not work. I downloaded Apple Music onto the unit.
It seems some of the Internet radio stations. The high-quality stuff is less harsh. I also watched and listened to TV through it.
How do you get this thing to not be so harsh?
Thank you.
Harsch? I have the a8 and the hifi rose rs130, both sound amazing, neither of them harsch. How did you connect them??
Check the digital filter setting. I like the slow roll off, sounds much better
If your ears are that sensitive, then bite the bullet and get a standalone DAC. You could get an excellent DAC and the A6 for the same price as an A8. Then every other digital source you might have, including bluetooth, will get the benefit.
There is one big miss: I headphone out/amp😢
Can you use the equaliser of the A8 when set as a streamer only?
What?
I assume they maybe getting confused with the graphic equaliser & dsp. For the information of @therollerkid, the graphic equaliser is just a display not adjustable although a very nice display but the A8 also has some dsp settings which you can use to adjust the sound to your liking.
@madds6678 it has an adustable parametric eq
@@madds6678 no its not a display. You can adjust the parametric EQ in the A8. I just need to know if it works when the A8 is used just as a streamer and not a dac. I have a better external dac.
Hi! Do you know if a8 supports MQA? MVH/Peter
I love my Cambridge Audio CXN-V2 streamer this is the 2023 HI-FI award winner. I’m using it as a preamp running separates.
Incredibly uses a Wolfson DAC from like 100 years ago. Seriously though.. it's the same one that's in my 2011 CA Blu-ray player so I just can't bring myself to pick that up no matter what awards it gets. The DAC makes too much of a difference.
But what power amplifier does one use??????
Hifi Rose blows this away. Not even close!
Analogue preamplifier?
have you heard both?
Can you stream SoundCloud?
Yes with the newest Firmware from yesterday :=)
Where is this for sale online. I can't find it anywhere???
Try your local hifi dealer they are advertised here in the uk for £1890 but stock not expected till month end.
engulfaudio
So they're available for pre-order at Dreammedia, and Summit HiFi. And probably many other's too. But those were at the top of my search. And they're shipping in December. ✌️
I bought mine at summit hi-fi. They’re in Canada and I’m in the US. No problem. I already have it!
@@alanrichey5745 Nice! How are you liking it? ✌️
why don't they make a transport only for those who already have excellent DACS. i would be interested. this is not an audiophile product.
true, it's a HIFI product, not an audioFOOL product.
There are some products out there that are transport only. I have a Lumin U2 which is transport/streamer only with no built in DAC since I already have a Berkeley Audio Reference DAC. Hope this helps.
They probably will but they probably prioritized this due to a larger market for all in ones vs a transport only device
Who decides what’s “audiophile”, and what isn’t? Do they give out certificates for this? Who is the arbiter? If they charged more would it be “audiophile” than? Are you “audiophile”? Am I? ✌️
Check Matrix Element S if you wish.
Geeks go raspi streamers with tons of hifi os. Symphonic-mpd is undisputed best I've tried: gentoo, volumio, moode audio etc.
Naim Uniti Atom , DCS Bartok, NAD M33 or M66
M66 should be doing well - awaiting the first serious test 😊
I just got the A6 too. 😢
Don’t worry - much different price points . A6 is best there is at its price point. You got a 3 series BMW in A6 and A8 is M5 BMW 😊
@@tomf1dublin1 thank you Tom, I did relax when I saw it was significantly higher. Quite like a 3 series
in 6 months a9 master
Oh stop crying! Ever watched phones? Every year a new model. Apple watch every year a new model, cars every year tweaks and new added features (because they tweak the cars hardware wise too)
Roon ready and MQA support?
Roon not, MQA yes
Not "yet" apperently..... ?
If Eversolo released a DMP-A8 without the preamp section (so basically a DMP-A6 with HDMI input and the AKM flagship DAC) I’m in
The preamp can be bypassed in the DMP-A6. You wouldn't want to use it anyway!
@@dontcare563 yup! I know, but my point if that if I’m not going to use it, I’d rather not pay for it! :)
To the OP. I think that would absolutely stink. That’s basically every other unit out there. This is exactly what makes this thing stick out. It has a real preamp, not just a digital volume control.
Besides they can’t please everyone. Nor is everyone able to be pleased. So that’s a fool’s errand anyway. ✌️
I do not question Steve's sincerity, but I think he is not really experienced to make recommendations in the high-end audio. Having spent so many years in audio listening does not make him a qualified person to do recommendation. So many times I see him saying the current one is the best. Then a few months later the unit gets surpassed. If you are following him and his advice, in fact you are following his audiophile journey. You can do that on your own.
What would make him qualified then? It's his fault better stuff comes out?
@@Pete.across.the.streetCompletely agree with you. Like it’s Steve’s fault for anything new that comes out. Every year there’s new stuff… must be Steve’s fault. 😅
???? No disrespect but hifi is a subjective hobby ....and there are thousands of audio companies around the globe making a mixed bag of hifi products ..that range in subjective performance, features and price! And each company also refines and improves their ranges with new models too!
So it's pretty obvious none of us - even those who professionally review - can know of, demo or compare everything or be an absolute authority !
Therefore we can only respond to what we have heard and have experienced like or dislike.
So there are always going to be "subjectively" better products out there to find.... so what's so hard for you to understand!
Damn shots fired! got to love youtube everyone’s a critic.
@@fadetoblack.- Including you.
compare that to the PS AUDIO perfectwave streamer dac one not two
Stop it. PS Audio is not even close.
If you are developing and / or manufacturing high end hifi products in the west, you have to take into account R&D costs. You also have to take into account reliability, i am still listening to Cyrus amps that are at least 15 years old.
Bought the A6 and connect to a separate DAC. Eversolo can make separate DAC irrelevant.
Depending on the quality of course. ✌️
NAD c658 is the king in my view. Please test it against this
Can you also have the screen just showing the cover artwork from an album Instead of the power meter?
The vu meters are a different screen option. The album art can show a spectrum analyzer in the background that moves with the music. It’s a very capable product for sure, many options.
Its unfortunately that Hifi rose not have a stand alone dac thats match with the RS130
At the time index 3.24 you use it with another component to say it sounds or performs better. This is very early on in a review.
This is disconcerting to the original component. As a fan of your reviews,
A bit early.
so whats next? A10?A12? A50? A1000000?
I hope so
As with everything else. Look at tv's for example, every year a new model. Technology is moving fast!