Anything to keep our projects going man! Thought l shared some of my experienced and knowledge. But sometimes I still making mistakes but you'll see soon, good lesson though, that's the reason why I want to share. Later man and thank you for watching.
Yes and it'll be g22. The engine will be similar to a H23a (bluetop) they have same 95mm crank except your f22 is 50mm main bearings. I'm not very familiar on g22 build as far as w/c piston to use but for timing belt areas, use H22.
@@sagittnet2158 thank you for the quick and detailed reply! I'll do more research on the G22 now. Love your videos been watching a bunch after stumbling across your channel today. As far as I know I can use the k20a2 pistons in reverse like you did but need to use aftermarket f22/h23 rods for the wrist pins.
Are you able to put h22 pistons on a f23 block stock sleeve?? I am afraid to use them since I have been told that h22 pistons comes with a coating(FRM) and I am not sure if they are compatible with iron sleeves. Also, it is ok to use h22a1 vtec head? Or I need to find a a4?
Using H22 piston have no effect on iron sleeve. It's the H22, H23avtec block have the FRM coating. You need a special piston material to use on H block other than OE piston. So no worry using H22 piston on F23. You can use 92-2001 H22 or F20b, H23avtec cylinder head. If you decide to use the kstuned plug or anything similar, make sure to use a Hondabond or MegaGrey sealant on it. Hope these help you out.
Never tried Cometic, I used Felpro one time and we found out it was the caused of oil leak and never used any other brand after that other than Honda headgasket. Not sure w/c cost more than Oe or Cometic. If it's about same price maybe 1 day l'll give Cometic a try.
Yes, coz f20b cyl head thermostat housing is the same as H22, H23a. Unless you buy the Tracktuff water coolant pipe w/c plug n play, no cutting require.
Kstuned have a instructional video for different block. I did it on one of my f23 block before using their instruction. Maybe one of these day l might do a blog about it, showing my diy plug.
@@lucygelz no worries man! I'll be making a blog about it soon. It'll be on the cyl head and l'm going to use a expandable rubber also, just like what l did on the oil pump.
Hondapartsonline.com, there are 2 F23 headgasket they sell (12251-paa-a01 and a02) either one can be use but always check the copper rivets, if it's will be sandwhich by 2 surfaces, simply remove it. The 2 dowell pins on the block will guide it center. You can also check Amazon, someone is selling it. If you cant buy it online, there's always stealership ( more $$ of course) but less headache in the long run. You dont have to worry about oil leaks. Not sure what type of plugs did you use on cyl head, in case you use kstuned plugs. I recommend to smear some sealant on top and bottom part for added assurance. Seen others complain about oil leaks still. I use sealant called Mega grey, it's same stuff as Hondabond.
K20a2 Cp piston or Arias, that way you dont have to deal w/ wrist pin offset. Cp and Arias doesnt have wrist pin offset. Visit www.zealautowerks.com to figure out your comp ratio.
Yes, weld it shut then send it to get resurface. If your plan is welding it, might as well add a material on the #2 oil drain. Its on the intake side. That way you can use a aftermarket headgasket if you wish. I found out that using other than OE headgasket, it leak oil on that side. You can watch one of my vlog about it. I showed where it was that aftermarket gasket not covering oil drain much.
Variety of piston brand off the shelf to use actually. I'm using k20a2 Cp piston coz it does'nt have a wrist pin offset. No need to install piston backwards to orient the piston pin offset like regular F23 piston. Are you thinking of boosting the g23? Pick a k20a2 piston that is advertise to have a of 9.1 to 9.6. 1 ratio for example and visit www.zealautowerks.com, type all information together w/ k20 piston dome CC value. From there that'll give you an idea.
@@sagittnet2158 sorry one more question, even with a big cam like a skunk pro 1 you don’t think k20 piston exhaust relief needs to be opened up a little?
@@Gee2b_civic lf you use a CP piston no need, there's plenty of room. If Oem piston is use and require to be install backward coz of the offset then l think it wont hurt to widen the exhaust relief. But it's better to clay it so to be sure. What piston are you thinking of using on f23 block? Nippon racing jdm piston or Cp piston?
Awesome video. Thank you! I just picked up my h22a4 head. I just need a f23 block and k20 pistons now. I am putting a g23 in my accord wagon.
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Thanks, just take your time when its time for build man. Later
@@cbdreamer1709 CD. Technically chassis code CE1 1994
Awesome. I love both
Thank you so much man. Your videos are a wealth of knowledge for the Honda community.
Anything to keep our projects going man! Thought l shared some of my experienced and knowledge. But sometimes I still making mistakes but you'll see soon, good lesson though, that's the reason why I want to share. Later man and thank you for watching.
Thank you for this information! I will be building mine for my ek soon
Your welcome and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the knowledge man!
Anytime brother, any little thing can help.
Could you do this build with a bored f22a block? Have a couple of those laying around and want to build something NA.
Yes and it'll be g22. The engine will be similar to a H23a (bluetop) they have same 95mm crank except your f22 is 50mm main bearings. I'm not very familiar on g22 build as far as w/c piston to use but for timing belt areas, use H22.
@@sagittnet2158 thank you for the quick and detailed reply! I'll do more research on the G22 now. Love your videos been watching a bunch after stumbling across your channel today.
As far as I know I can use the k20a2 pistons in reverse like you did but need to use aftermarket f22/h23 rods for the wrist pins.
@@Grocery_Wagon_Racing Thank you and yes, k20a2 can be use on those rods.
This was a great video thanks
Thanks bruh!
Love your videos!
Thank you!
Are you able to put h22 pistons on a f23 block stock sleeve?? I am afraid to use them since I have been told that h22 pistons comes with a coating(FRM) and I am not sure if they are compatible with iron sleeves.
Also, it is ok to use h22a1 vtec head? Or I need to find a a4?
Using H22 piston have no effect on iron sleeve. It's the H22, H23avtec block have the FRM coating. You need a special piston material to use on H block other than OE piston. So no worry using H22 piston on F23. You can use 92-2001 H22 or F20b, H23avtec cylinder head. If you decide to use the kstuned plug or anything similar, make sure to use a Hondabond or MegaGrey sealant on it. Hope these help you out.
Have u tried cometic multi layer head gaskets they come in different thicknesses
Never tried Cometic, I used Felpro one time and we found out it was the caused of oil leak and never used any other brand after that other than Honda headgasket. Not sure w/c cost more than Oe or Cometic. If it's about same price maybe 1 day l'll give Cometic a try.
If I'm use the f20b head cylinder do I need to cut the f23 water pipe?
Yes, coz f20b cyl head thermostat housing is the same as H22, H23a. Unless you buy the Tracktuff water coolant pipe w/c plug n play, no cutting require.
Do you have an Instruction on plugging the oil galleys for the block
Kstuned have a instructional video for different block. I did it on one of my f23 block before using their instruction. Maybe one of these day l might do a blog about it, showing my diy plug.
@@sagittnet2158 please update me if you do
@@lucygelz no worries man! I'll be making a blog about it soon. It'll be on the cyl head and l'm going to use a expandable rubber also, just like what l did on the oil pump.
@@lucygelzPlugging the h22 cylinder head is uploaded! You'll see it on regular day time show. Thanks man!
Where u finding oem honda f23 headgaskets??
I usually order it on online Hondapartsonline.com or Honda dealership.
@sagittnet2158 cool. I appreciate it man
Hey Sagitt. Where can i find an Oem F23 head gasket. Cant seem to find an Oem gasket.
Hondapartsonline.com, there are 2 F23 headgasket they sell (12251-paa-a01 and a02) either one can be use but always check the copper rivets, if it's will be sandwhich by 2 surfaces, simply remove it. The 2 dowell pins on the block will guide it center. You can also check Amazon, someone is selling it. If you cant buy it online, there's always stealership ( more $$ of course) but less headache in the long run. You dont have to worry about oil leaks. Not sure what type of plugs did you use on cyl head, in case you use kstuned plugs. I recommend to smear some sealant on top and bottom part for added assurance. Seen others complain about oil leaks still. I use sealant called Mega grey, it's same stuff as Hondabond.
@@sagittnet2158 thank you. Found it! I will be using the ks tuned plugs.
awesome video!! question, you said this was a NA build, would I need to change parts for a turbo setup?
NA setup and yes, it's best to install a turbo piston w/ forged rod if going boost.
@@sagittnet2158 damn thanks for the advice my man! I'm thinking of seriously doing this build and your videos are invaluable!
@@BlackAx33 thanks brother!
If I already have a running f23 in my car can i just use the f23 pistons? Why switch to k20?
The compression ratio is too low and it'll be too slow to accelerate at low rpm. When k20 piston is use it'll bump your comp ratio to 11:1
That's when using a H22 cylinder head on F23 block.
Which pistons for turbo
K20a2 Cp piston or Arias, that way you dont have to deal w/ wrist pin offset. Cp and Arias doesnt have wrist pin offset. Visit www.zealautowerks.com to figure out your comp ratio.
@sagittnet2158 thanks man love videos
For the oil drain plugs could i weld before i get the head resurfaced
Yes, weld it shut then send it to get resurface. If your plan is welding it, might as well add a material on the #2 oil drain. Its on the intake side. That way you can use a aftermarket headgasket if you wish. I found out that using other than OE headgasket, it leak oil on that side. You can watch one of my vlog about it. I showed where it was that aftermarket gasket not covering oil drain much.
@@sagittnet2158 thanks man 🙌♥️i love your videos,I'll go watch that video as well 🙂
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@@stevenjames3356 it's right at the beginning/ headgasket.
What pistons should we use for low compression?
Variety of piston brand off the shelf to use actually. I'm using k20a2 Cp piston coz it does'nt have a wrist pin offset. No need to install piston backwards to orient the piston pin offset like regular F23 piston. Are you thinking of boosting the g23? Pick a k20a2 piston that is advertise to have a of 9.1 to 9.6. 1 ratio for example and visit www.zealautowerks.com, type all information together w/ k20 piston dome CC value. From there that'll give you an idea.
What did you use for engine harness and ecu (obd1 or bod2)?
I used a 1996 Civic lx harness(obd2a) and extended some wires and change some connector for IAT.
@@sagittnet2158 I am also considering using my stock harness for my Eg.
@@jasonphilips4731 it'll work, just need to extend or add some wirings. I found that obd2 connectors are much easier to depin compare to obd1.
@@sagittnet2158 Ok thanks 👍
So do I need to modify reliefs on my nippon k20a2 pistons for my g23 or can I just drop in?
Drop in, l just shaved the relief back then just for a R&D. There are plenty of p2v clearance .
@@sagittnet2158 thank you so much, love the videos
@@Gee2b_civic thank you brother
@@sagittnet2158 sorry one more question, even with a big cam like a skunk pro 1 you don’t think k20 piston exhaust relief needs to be opened up a little?
@@Gee2b_civic lf you use a CP piston no need, there's plenty of room. If Oem piston is use and require to be install backward coz of the offset then l think it wont hurt to widen the exhaust relief. But it's better to clay it so to be sure. What piston are you thinking of using on f23 block? Nippon racing jdm piston or Cp piston?
Cost to build me one n shipping to hawaii
lf only l can help you out cousin! Sorry brother