I made a 3D printed bass oboe!
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Huge thanks to Stephen Fox for his help with this project!
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Thanks to Richard Murry for making me a fantastic reed.
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1:13 Design
6:48 Chromatic Scale
8:09 Sound Demo
Without knowing the exact interior dimensions of your bore, I'd have to say just by sight and sound you've actually 3D-printed a Heckelphone. While it is similar to the bass oboe, they are in fact very different instruments, and it's an important distinction to make. The bass oboe has a much smaller bore - it's essentially identical to the bore on an English horn, the bass oboe just keeps the same ratio of conicity as it extends down the further length of the instrument. The bocal bore and reed are also much smaller for a bass oboe, and the bell shape is also vastly different between the two. The resonance and projection between the two instruments as a result is vastly different - the bass oboe tends to have a smaller sound, and can be harder to hear in an orchestra during loud spots, whereas the Heckelphone has a very penetrating sound in any dynamic. All that said, this is a super cool print! It'd be interesting to see how you can further refine this!
For a first prototype, it sounds surprisingly good.
Finally, I've been wanting to compose for Heckelphone and or bass Oboe for AGES. Now they're way more accessible. Great initiative and well done!
This is an extremely exciting development, I'm anxious to see where this leads us. Having access to instruments like this one are like a fever dream of mine.
Hey Jared, I have to say I'm blown away by this! I'm a first year Uni student studying Oboe Performance, and I've always wanted to give the Bass Oboe a serious shot, so to me this seems like a massive improvement in availability! Best of luck going forwards with this, and please keep us all posted if these instruments ever go on sale
I’m not even a woodwind player. I play low brass instruments, but man this is pretty cool. More importantly affordability using 3d printing is something that needs to be pursued. Used Euphoniums cost usually like a thousand and I can’t spend money like that 😢 so making the struggle easier for anyone is great
Yeah unfortunately playing instruments is definitely a rich person hobby
Whooo children's march!
Thank you! I recognized the tune, but couldn't quite place it.
You should try the Lupophone. There's almost no recordings of it but from the few that I've found it has an incredible sound unlike the bassoon! It's essentially a Bass Oboe that goes to low written F. I'm surprised more composers don't write for Bass Oboes or Lupophones.
I bet there’s densities of materials approaching (ebony? ) woods used for traditional instruments that would render a 3D printed unit indistinguishable.
Outstanding project!
Wow Jared! I'm really impressed by your talent and building creativity! I'm waiting for the final bass oboe to be done so I can buy the build information and have my friend who has a 3D printer build one of these for me! You are doing great things! And boy do I want a octobassclarinet if you can figure how to print that beast out!! Bravo!!
Of all the songs that you could have chosen for the starting demo, I don't think that could have been more excited than this one.
Dude! This is ridiculous, in all of the best ways! Loving watching your innovation!
This is incredible!!!! I am an oboe player, and I hear and see massive potential!
If you at all start selling these PLEASE let me know (then I can justify composing for more bass oboe)
we think alike! very exciting to see prototypes like this for instruments that lack a "budget option."
Hoping an extension all the way down to the Low F can be made, giving us the full range of the Lupophone as well.
I'll definitely look into buying one of these when there's a chance.
This is amazing!!! Hope we can collaborate on a low b-flat extension for English horn someday!
This is incredible. I would love to have one.
Exciting project!
Personally I would like a instrument more akin to a traditional Bass Oboe, something more akin to what an oboe player would play without those characteristics from the bassoon that Heckelphones and Lupophones had.
Aside from that, I hope to see what you're going to do with this project in the near future.
Sounds great! I love the hecklephone!
What a great idea! I'm very interested to see what you'll do next.
Very cool project!
I would love to see a little bit of close ups on the mechanisms or the assembly.
I'll post a short tomorrow
@@Jared_De_Leon hooray!
Amazing ! ( try looking into undercutting techniques - as practised on woodwinds and flutes during the Baroque Era - when you start adjusting some of the tuning-inconsistencies
im not an oboe player but i think this sounds nice :]
anything to make music accessible !!
No itvdoesnt. It sounds like cheap plastic
@@Teladian2 He expressly mentioned that he's not much of an Oboe player and that it's highly likely that the issues are with him, not the instrument. I have a Yamaha 861 Oboe that used to sound quite similar to that because I wasn't a very good player
Amazing work and insights! Thanks for sharing. Your channel is inspirational.
Sounds really fantastic!
This is amazing, dude.
Heckelphones sound so good
Incredible man!! Loved it!! Regards from Brazil!
I've been waitin for this since the short w the prototype body in yellow ^_^
Make an english horn next.
awesome project!
Sounds great!
Awesome!!!!
Hello! great video, you need to have a very big 3d printer in order to do that ? or how big should be the printer for this or for a bassoon for example? thanks greating from Mexico
Hello Jared. Very impressive! What resin/polymer was used for the body and keys? PLA? ABS? PETG? I’m in the plastics industry and dabble in woodwind playing.
I use PLA+, mainly as I find it gives be the best quality and dimensional accuracy while being a little less brittle than PLA.
Inspiring, thanks.
I’d be interested to hear what a true professional could do with this thing. Where’d you get the reed? Can you get that person to have a go?
Richard Murry made it. Unfortunately he’s quite far from me.
@@Jared_De_Leon Is he far from a 3D printer?
@@cmw12 I don’t think he has a 3D printer.
Do you have the 3d print files available to share?
Awesome!
does the surface of the print, wich is always a little rough affect the sound and how ? i hear the instrument makers take it very serious to get a polished surface inside the bore
sounds awesome & what an excellent idea to 3d print it! obligatory bassoonist sad face, though xD
wow nice
What about a serpent or cornetto? Or even a baroque oboe?
I’ve seen all of those 3D printed before! Though personally I am more interested in modern instruments so they are probably not something I will make anytime soon.
@@Jared_De_Leon maybe a contrabass oboe then?
@@Inventio13 definitely something I’ve thought of quite a bit!
I'm an oboist and I have a 300x300x300 3d printer. Would you consider selling the 3d printing files? I'm very interested in trying by myself if possible. I play bass oboe too. If you have questions about reeds I'm happy to discuss as well.
Yes they will be for sale eventually and yes that printer is more than big enough. Right now I’m having someone beta test the files, if that goes well the files could be available by later this year.
@@Jared_De_Leon Thank you. Keep us posted
do you sell lorée low b flat extensions?
is 3d model for sale?
I know this video is old but how do you know where the tone holes go?
Someone provided me with measurements from another instrument.
Is 3D printing expensive? How much does it cost you to make one of these?
There's probably about $40 worth of plastic and on top of that maybe like $5 in energy costs. There's also the cost of all the rods, springs and pads which I would say is roughly $100. This doesn't take into account all of the time and energy needed to fit and assemble everything though.
Can you do the same with the Lupophone?
Probably not since there are so few to measure, but also it's a very recent design and I wouldn't want to just copy it.
Could you please sell these?
When can we buy the files to make one of these?
Still working on them. Just finished the upper joint of the second prototype!
Awesome can’t wait
Do you have any intentions of releasing/giving out/selling the files to make one of these ourselves? I would love to be able to make a bass oboe for myself!
Yeah, that would be very cool 🙌
Yes once I finish refining the design they will be available on my website.
@@Jared_De_Leon awesome!!
Ok I will buy that how much do you want? I’m serious.
You'll probably want to wait for the final version with a low A! Once I get everything finalized I was thinking around $3000.
would you be open to orders for you to print these and put them together
Yes once I'm able to refine the design.
What 3D printer do you use?
I use an Ender 3 Pro with all the upgrades, though I am looking at an X1 Carbon for my next printer.
Is it possible to make a clarinet one octave higher than the common soperano Bb clarinet
Yes, the Kalison mini clarinet is in Bb and tuned an octave above the standard Bb clarinet.
@@Jared_De_Leon how to buy
@@BasedBC1984 they’re pretty rare, it would be hard to find one.
@@Jared_De_Leon how to make
Where did you get a heckelphone reed from?
From Richard Murry. Link is in the description.
Bro stop moving your hand randomly when you speak it’s driving me crazy.
Other than that it’s fantastic!
So what you've designed is a Hecklephone and not a true bass oboe. And Im sorry but this thing sounds terrible. Its super bright and sounds like its made of cheap materials.
So is your homemade bass oboe better? Please do share it.
Are you planning on releasing the designs?
Yes once they are finalized they will be available for sale.
Will you be putting the .stl files for everything on your website? I only see the Denner copy bass oboe on there.
Eventually yes. I’m currently building the second (and hopefully final) prototype. If that goes well I will have the files available on my website. I’m also working with a bocal maker to hopefully have a source for high quality bocals which will make them play even better!
@@Jared_De_Leon Cool, will the bocals be made from copper tubing or make some kind of cast so we can make them from Stirling silver? Or something else entirely?
I have 3 EH bocals made from Stirling silver from Laubin.
@@xxxBradTxxx they’ll be nickel silver. Unfortunately they can’t be cast.
Was this a resin print?
FDM.
@@Jared_De_Leon Fox oboes are resin, it makes me wonder if they print them or if they have traditional molds?
@@xxxBradTxxx most likely they are made in the traditional manner.