To admit that it is justified to punish someone by killing in Islam and then at the same time to say Islam is a peaceful religion is the epitome of madness.
Do you know there is a theory that Islam is actually a rip off of Christianity and Judaism, where do you think all this killing comes from if not from the bible. God punish, God isn't as peaceful as what humans or Christian want it to be even the symbolic of sacrifice of Jesus also by being crucified till death , you think the God is peaceful for human eyes ?
What happened to non-Muslims in Islamic countries say the truth how islam treat with non-Muslims... afganistan Bangladesh Pakistan are wiped out of non-Muslims by Islamists...they are the most hypocritical people in the world 😢
I was born, raised, and forced to be a Muslim for 25 years. But I couldn’t take it anymore and I converted to Christianity. I can never go back to my birth country Iran and my family disowned me, but I don’t regret anything. I am going to live once, and I refuse to be the slave of other people’s beliefs.
I’m happy you found Christ!..but I would seriously question why your family disowned you!..I know a few middle eastern girls that soon as they came over here they went wild sleeping around and being whores!..that’s a big thing in the west in terms of freedom!!..I happy you found Christ and freedom to live how you want but some people lie just to justify their disgusting life style
Anyone who leaves their family for Jesus Christ the Lord, will surely be blessed by him his grateful and peaceful love 💞 no matter where you living in the world Jesus Christ will never leave you alone because you choose him to be your saviour ❤️✝️
They are not calling for the death of one another. The Muslim is approaching this from a philosophical perspective. Robert is claiming that his biggest grievance with Islam is that apostates (people who leave a religion) are to be put to death. However there is no way that Robert can logically prove that ordering an apostate is an objectively immoral act since his own religion claims the exact same thing. Jake is proving a point, not calling for the capital punishment on Rachid. Keep in mind this would need a full sharia government, with witnesses, trial, etc. none of these people have the authority to carry out capital punishment on Rachid under Islamic law.
@@yassineelyacoubi2430 He is Christian, Christianity does not call for the death of apostasy. This is false. The man when asked said apostates should die.
@@turdferguson7504 did you listen to the christian scripture that was read? about killing the family member, friend, etc, who tempts you to leave the religion? Or am i misunderstanding it because it seems very clear that even christianity has this order, even if it is not practiced.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
@@Theyellowbosss People often say, “I’m not hurting anyone so it’s ok to sin (lying, stealing, sexual sins, disrespecting parents etc)” The same God who said to love your neighbour first said to love Him to the best of your ability. If you carry on sinning, then you do not love God but are selfish like the devil so you will be joined to your father in hell or repent of your sins and believe in Jesus as God so Jesus adopts you as His child and you will join Him in Heaven forever.
Christianity: God is our judge and offered us a gracious pardon and actively does miracles _to bless us,_ but we have a choice whether we will follow God or Satan. As a representative of God, we are commanded to show His kind of true love even to people who are our enemies, seeing them as created in the image of God and with a desire to lead them to repentance from living in sin and salvation. Expectation of eternity is that the sinful parts of you that you still struggle with will be purified, leaving Godly character and the good and wholesome fruits of the spirit as your character and new nature. vs Islam: people are the judge and should be tricking, coercing, killing, and any other deceitful or violent tactic to force people to follow a person who claimed to be god, but didn't do miracles and did things like threaten someone into letting him marry a pre-puberty little girl. Oh, but that's ok, because this warlord _might_ have waited until she was 13 to use her. Blow yourself up to kill others and you'll get women for your selfish desires in the afterlife.
@@nemitv1157Christian’s are pretty honest. If you don’t repent and follow Christ and the commandments your going to hell where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. See. However he made a way for you.
A Muslim can live here relatively peacefully, but can a Christian live in a Muslim state peacefully under the same circumstance? This is something that must change and we as Americans need to come to grips with Islam is not compatible with America today or ever.
islam doesnt seek to be compatible with ever shifting morality and modern day liberalism and hedonism. Islam is for all times and a perfect book nuanced in its approach covering all judicial topics. Islam is simple , easy to practice, and its not overbearing at all.
We have many Christians in our country (Oman) who never faced any burning of their book or any attacks to what they wear while on the other side Muslim women get attacked in western countries because of the hijab or group of men getting attacked because they are praying. Our neighbours are Christians and we meet on daily basis never did they say that we are scared to live here. Besides religion, they feel safer living here since the percentage of crime is way more less than USA and bullying is barely known. Alhamdullilah for Islam and i always say you got to search of Islam not from the enemies but from the people of Islam themselves.
Actually, yes, in many Muslim countries when the population is 80, 90%, Muslim and 10% Christianity or other religions Muslims do not go out their way to harm those are the people at all unless they are provoked first. Know your rights know your facts before talking that bullshit
Being born in a Christian country doesn't get you into Heaven. Only accepting Christ as personal Savior does. Don't let good fortune send you to Hell because you never saw a need for a savior.
U think ur lucky cuz ur pastors teaches u life is just a phase and everyone will end up in heaven cuz jesus christ dies for our sins even if youre a serial killer. If its like that then why are we here on earth? What is the point exactly
You cant even spell it. We don't live in a "Christian" country. If we did, I would be a practicing Christian. But I am not, and I can still go about my day. Name the passage from our Constitution that describes establishing a "Christian" country. Its not there. Only a reference to "God" . What God? It doesn't say.
You will know a tree by its fruit. The way the Muslim could not have a peaceful conversation and respectful, the Christian remained levelheaded as an indication of the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
I always think about that. Watch any muslim in argument on social media, they can never speak peacefully or calmly . they always shout or be aggressive.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
16:25 Rashid said that “if Muslims are a majority today, these two brothers would witness my killing in front of the people and they will be happy, cheering the crowds that I was killed”. The two brothers did not refute or interrupt his statement there like they did everywhere else. I don’t know enough about Islam to hate it but this ☝🏾 is concerning
the bible says the same to kill the apostate if you watched the whole podcast you would have known if you believe in bible then this should not be a concern for you
@@ibrahimhajji6210 Find out the origin of Islam then you will know its not near what you thought. Because your Prophet wasn't as good as you thought. Forget what anyone said about him and research, you'll realise what I mean.
Well you can’t be born saved, that’s a conscious decision you have to make for yourself. But yes, being born into a Christian family is such a blessing 🥰🥰
@@nunya54Iam from majority Muslims nations and what u hear from this podcast were only 1, percent of the real issues about how evil islam faith teaching could be. And yes when they are majority the non Muslims but will always be in threat. The only religious not allow to criticize are islam. But it okay for them to criticize others. It only one way but can't be both side. Stop sugar coating your religion sweety, look at Europe now.. Eventually what the guy said about the sharia law when they become majority were right all this time
As an Orthodox Christian from Balkans, we have an almost of 500 years of history with Islam. The moment they are majority or stronger force, you can see their true colors. Islam is not a religion, its a political movement masked as a religion.
As someone from Balkans, youre full of bs. You dont know leaders use religion as excuse to divide and conquer? You know muslims christians and orthodox christians lived peacefully for centuries until it was time for corrupt leaders to listen to their masters to divide and conquer them? So living for centuries peacefully shows you nothing right? Get real
And you know whats amazing, in that crowd, only Jesus was without sin, so He had the right to cast the first stone. The Law Himself chose forgiveness, chose Grace and chose love, all He said to her was "go and sin no more" , this is the new covenant we follow that was promised by God in the Old Testament.
Welcome, brother. I tried to be amicable to Muslims online, but after the way i have been treated by so many of them, i don't think they are trust worthy.
You laugh but your soul cries. You really believe God dies so that he can forgive? That he eats, poops and cry? What kind of pathetic God is that? According to Pagan logic, Hitler goes to Heaven..
@@El_Deen what kind of after life would rather have: 1-To be forever in the presence of God. Live in bliss and love. 2-Get laid with a bunch of virgins and be a slave to your fleshly desires for the rest of existence. I would rather be filled by divine inspiration,but to each their own.
I’m Iranian and lived in Iran for 23 years in a Muslim community. I think when a person looks a certain way because of their religion, for example, having specific beard style or anything representing a religious belief, it is sign of radicalism. One of the guests said that 95 percent of Quran is talking about good things, and why we are just focusing on the other five percent; of course that we focus on the five percent part because that’s where the violence is coming from. I can talk about many other things, but it will take forever to type it here .
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@charlottens3409 God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
@@charlottens3409 God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
actually, althought that might be true now, during the old testement which was commanded by the same (God), it was commanded that who ever leaves their religion is to be killed. Yes, the same thing you guys are crying about is quite literally in the bible, but worse. ironic isn't it? as iff christans cant be honest to their faith. i recommed you wathc the full video, the christans got put on show.
bro apostasy killing rule is in every abrahamic religion not just islam but christainity and judaism to unlike u guys their at least honest about it Deuteronomy 13:6-9 If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife [a]you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
@@thepublicpotato3887 Have you looked at the context in this verse? Here Moses warns the people against listening to a close relative or a dear friend who may entice them secretly to serve other gods. He then commanded that the tempter must be put to death. This needed to be done to ensure that such a wicked act is not repeated among the Israelite community. Remind you all of the isrealite comunity were at the time Gods chosen people so they knew of his existence yet still worshiped other "Gods". Also by christian standards Moses is not the most important figure in the bible because in christian perspective every human did some sort of evil doings. except Jesus Christ of Nazareth. So When you look see that verse Moses isn't speaking in general for all people. Only to the isrealites. Which indeed was wrong. Just goes to show how much evildoing humans can commit. This is why we need Jesus. He is our perfect example of a pure good human. I hope you understood
These arteists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
These atheists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
well I'm afraid of getting blown up by someone who never met me because im white and don't dress like a stone age caveman or i have gf/wife/ sister who isnt covered in clothes 😮
The anger and malice that the Muslim has in the conversation. It truly speaks volumes. I pray for him. Christianity is the greatest thing to happen to mankind since our fall in Eden.
@@ramona283 Only some Christians think it's not (some sects some Christians think are as well). It was paganized after the third century. Worshipping Jesus, a Jew, a man is idolatry and worshipping God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, Mary or saints is polytheism (i.e. paganism).
@@WaryOfExtremesOriginalin Nigeria Pakistan it happens every month. Recently Nigerian Christian girl was killed by Muslim mob coz they think she disrespected pedophile Mohammed. Many translator of satanic verses book killed stabbed attacked by Muslims all over the world. Islam is dangerous political ideology and dangerous cult parading as a religion
I wish you would hold Christian countries like UK accountability when they give away land that's not theirs to give, or when America lies about weapons of mass destruction just so they can collapse a society. The irony
No, you are happy that you live in a christian/western country IN THE 21th century. When christianity was practiced more stricytly (unlike now) you would be stoned to death probably.
You would have survived in East too because there are countries like China , India , Japan ,Korea , etc where being atheist isn't wrong . In fact there are hindu atheists in India
@@ObsidianSpearhead They say "western" but what they mean is liberal, not the geographic location. Japan, India and Korea are all liberal. China is different; in China you can be ended for NOT being atheist.
In a world controled by a false religion you are being forced to beleive and also forced to worship. Atheist are persecuted as they proclaim it is a refuge for different beleifs. Deceivers do not want to be questioned, because questions invoke truth..and remembering the lie is compromised by tiny little slip of the tongue.
The audacity of saying that Muslim's lives are in danger within America to the same extent that Christian's lives are in danger in muslim countries is absolutely a wildly hypocritical statement.
@Agn0sticAthe1st Really what? It seems the message you are responding to isn't there but if you're responding to the first statement, Muslims are more in danger, as are Christians as well, in Christian countries of being raped, murdered, kidnapped and assortment of other crimes as those societies are generally less safe (partly due to the fact that Christianity, in practice, has no real laws or consequences for breaking laws, after abolishing Jesus' or Moses' laws). The countries with the most murders are Christian countries. Why would Christian's lives be more in danger in Muslim countries than Muslims in Christian countries or Christians in Christian countries?? Living under Islamic law is far more safe than living under no religious law in so-called Christian countries. And Let's not act like that group and others are doing something their religion allows; they're being evil and disobedient just like Christians who do the same (well, there's Deuteronomy y 21:10-14 is pretty questionable) and also let's not act like Christians haven't always lived in Muslim countries peacefully. They did seek refuge in Muslim lands from their own oppressive rulers as did the Jews away from the Christians (who were killing them out of existence).
@@mikeholmed7029 any religion, or how your parents raised you. I’ve literally seen ppl have to accept at 30 years old that their parents are or were ignorant when they was growing up and unfortunately society had to show them that.
👉❤to all Muslim out Please and ❤Christians out there Please this 👉👉Jesus is very clear about the law he came to fulfill all the law and to accomplished and the law will pass after Jesus fulfill it Jesus fulfill all the law on behalf of all of us so we are not under law but grace (Romans 6:14) 👉read Matthew 5:17-20 Christ Came to Fulfill the Law17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,thisc an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished 👉👉Romans 6:14For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
“Certainly! Matthew 5:17-18 is a passage from the New Testament, specifically from the Gospel of Matthew. Here is the text of those verses (ESV): "17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished." In these verses, Jesus is speaking, and He emphasizes that He did not come to abolish the Law (which includes the Old Testament laws and teachings) but to fulfill them. He goes on to say that not even the smallest part of the Law will pass away until all is accomplished. This indicates the continuity between the Old Testament (the Law and the Prophets) and Jesus' mission as the fulfillment of that divine plan.” ------ “Samuel 15:2-3 (NIV): “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” These verses are part of a passage where God commands King Saul to punish the Amalekite people, including both humans and animals, for their actions against the Israelites” --- Deuteronomy 13:6-10 (NIV): “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’ (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.”
@jllj9231 As an ex Muslim I have to say that Quran needs a very serious overhaul... it's a book a terrifying book like old Tora and Bible used to be, it needs censorship ASAP! but it will NEVER happen since UK-US and their other allies capitalize on the trrst potential of Islam to have military presence in many regions. I have a theory that the british empire is responsible for keep Muslims conservative just in case.
I am also ex muslim from Iraq "kurdistan" and scared to go back there. But I am free and joyful to know that I will not go to hell as islam says almost all women will end in hell. All glory to God Almighty for Jesus Christ our great Redeemer who fills us peace and love. Let's pray for muslims to be delivered from darkness islam
Islam does not say almost all women will end in hell. Muhammad said he saw most of the inhabitants of hell were women but they're also most of the inhabitants of paradise as well. Is Jesus not also going to throw people in hell for not accepting his free gift of salvation? If most people in the world are women, won't he be throwing mostly women into a lake of fire?
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you” (Matthew 5:43-44)
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
@@amyassyassin7909 Jesus is not describing the sword of God's judgment, nor one of military action, or of personal violence. The item Jesus refers to here is the Greek term machairan, most often used for large knives such as those used by fisherman. The main purpose of those blades was to separate different parts of a cut of meat-this is the same term used in the book of Hebrews to depict Scripture's ability to separate truth and error (Hebrews 4:12). In other words, Jesus' message will naturally create division; this "sword" will divide the world into those who believe in Him and those who do not. His arrival will bring great conflict as those who reject Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God will turn in hatred against those who hear and believe (1 Peter 4:3-4; John 15:18-21), including the members of one's own family. 1 Corinthians 2:15-16 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
It seems to me (as a novice) the Muslim gentleman doesn’t seem to understand that the Old Testament was a precursor to complete forgiveness through the blood of the Christ.
The Old Testament makes up approximately 65 to 70 percent on the Christian Bible. Most Christian teachers of it do not cover the authority to take the lives of others under the Old Testament concerning apostates. They will teach how Jesus came to give eternal life by teaching love for God ( and accepting His son as savior)and man ( your neighbor). Jesus established the New Covenant by fulfilling the laws of the Old Testament and Old Testament (OT)prophesy.This was done by becoming incarnate, performing miracles described in OT prophesy , being sacrificed on the cross to forgive mankind’s sin, then being resurrected. Belief in Him, these 2 new commands he preached and His biblical teachings which include the beatitudes were to direct mankind to righteousness, salvation and eternal life after earthly death. From what I have learned Judaism and Islam do not accept Jesus as a savior to man. Islam accepts Him as a prophet. I believe, but I am not totally sure of His status in Judaism. I have heard different opinions from different folks who followed the faith. This discussion centers mostly about writings in the OT, much of which in Judaism is the Pentateuch, which are basically Mosaic law and writing of the prophets. There are other elements of the OT, but I will leave that to the rabbis and theologians. Interestingly this conversation comes at the right time. There are many faiths on earth. These three faiths have had significant impact on worldly events and spiritual offerings. Interesting, the father of each faith is Abraham. These are considered Abrahamic faiths by many, Each faiths ancient elements include the Pentateuch as much of its moral code and law. The Christian Bible also includes the New Testament which centers around the life of Jesus , His mission on earth, His works and His apostles etc. Islam has Mohammed and his life and teachings along with updating writings and its Imam. I believe all three have Eschatology prophecy (end times)teachings which have differences. This discussion is a good one to have to many can understand the secular and spiritual aspects of each faith and how they affect daily lives and emotions. Please continue these discussions. Thanks to all willing to discuss the issues presented during the debate.
Mathew 5: 43-45 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust
Allah says in Surah Fussilat (Verse 34): "And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that which is best. And thereupon, the one whom between you and him is enmity will be like an old friend."
The difference between the attitudes of the Christians and Islams panelists is astounding. In itself it truly depicts the difference betweeen Christians and Muslims.
Just to clarify it is in hadeeth not the Qur'an, people confuse the Qur'an with the hadeeth.....Qur'an is the book of Allah SWT, hadeeth is what was delivered at certain times it's not a direct commandment...
@@andreaguilar6685Do you not understand that Leviticus is the Old Testament? Christians follow the New Testament as that was when Jesus was introduced into the Bible. You’re confusing Catholicism which teaches both old and new Testament. Jesus came as man in order for Father God to understand the evils and sins of mankind because in Old Testament he kept destroying peoples of the earth due to their evil disobedience but then said he would send his son in flesh to become as man in order for God to understand humans weakness to sin. God is so good that without Jesus coming into human form, he could not understand because God has no evil in him to see just how or why humans did have evil within themselves. That is why Jesus said “ please Father do not judge them for they do not know what they do”.
@@Luvothrsmor22Catholicism also is about the New Testament. Isn't that why they called Christians aka "Christ-like"? The level of ignorance in these comments is heartbreaking.
They are blind! How can you believe in killing a human being just because they don’t believe or want to follow your religion. Clearly they don’t believe in love or peace! This is not even a debate, these people love death and oppression and us Christian we love life and liberty. ❤
“Sa’b bin Jaththamah said: ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) was asked about the polytheists who are attacked at night, and their women and children are killed.’ He said: ‘They are from among them.’” Grade: Sahih (Darussalam) Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 2839 In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 87 English translation : Vol. 4, Book 24, Hadith 2839
Lady u shud read the old testament or about the Christian conquests in history..u are full of hate even now for polytheist..or people who don't believe in your god..example a hindu ..😂😂😂
because they think different. to them, being ruled by a none muslim leader (awlia) is “oppression”, and that “oppression” must be changed. they also believe that the law in none muslim countries are made by man, and not by “god”. that is why countries that have muslim minorities always create trouble. islam in other words is not compatible with democracies.
I want to comment on why, when anyone talking about Islam, they talk about 5% bad instead of 95% of good? Because of what is living condition of Islam majority countries population whose are non Muslims? Second, many Muslim countries conditions of the general Muslim population? I believe nothing wrong with the religion and problem is people who follow. Any religion, if any person or group, took to extreme level, and it will spoil that religion's holiness.
Well I think a lot of Christians who leave the church experience some kind of fear and loss... But they aren't afraid that community will literally murder them for leaving.
@@fireheart5004 95% of Islam is not good. It is the opposite. 95% of Islam is terrible and there is maybe 5% good things. Islam is a religion that has violence, rape, mass murder, child marriage, sex slavery etc. inherent in the very core. There is no Islam without those terrible beliefs as espoused by the quran and Muhammad. That's like saying "why do those people always focus on the 5% bad stuff about Nazism, instead of the 95% of good things"?
@@ahnafsayem4991no if you watch the video the Christian guy has specifically explained that the Old Testament is an old covenant and because Jesus Christ came to save us from sin by dying on the cross the New Covenant and the New Testament are the rules that are supposed to be followed. It’s pretty straightforward if you’re not looking to always argue 😂
@@Panaghhiaa with all due respect we don't have to take this guy's words as the truth. I don't think there is a verse in the new testament that tells the Christians to disregard the old testament. In fact you can find the contrary in the new testament in the following verse: The New Testament demonstrates that this ruler is Jesus, and He said, “Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose” (Matthew 5:17, NLT). I have a question. Why do you guys have so much trust in the words of paul who had been a persecutor to the early converts and then suddenly he miraculously had a "vision” that changed his life to the course of being an apostle. Firstly Paul has a failed prophecy which suggests that the then alive christians will be alive at the time of the 2nd coming of Jesus which surely did not happen. Also paul has distorted verses of the old testament to suit his own agenda. After everything how do you guys risk your afterlife on the sayings of a man whose truthfulness is a matter of doubt.
The worst thing you can do to a child is tell the child to memorize or recite a “Holy book,” written or inspired by God-Any book! It impedes the child's critical thinking regarding that book.
It's not insane because all morality is taught. Empathy and morality are not the same; when you are young you only have empathy but as you grow up you need to be taught morality, which supercedes your empathy, or else you will never have it or you will develop it by your own philosophies. The Christian ethic from which the American concept of human rights comes from is unique to the Christian worldview, it's not the default innate morality of mankind and in fact most of the modern American youth have no understanding of it and are being taught an oppressor/oppressed-based morality wherein the lease privileged is always the morally superior.
@@gorkyd7912 But you are mistaken, because Morality is derived from somewhere depending on your way of thinking. So, if you, as a christian lets say, say you are a moral entity, your morals come from god, which is itself an amoral entity, and in that mindset, morality is a dictate from authority. But if you are an atheist, your morals dont come from there, the base of it was inherited from social behavior on apes and other mammals, we complemented them and enhanced them, putting emphasis on social and individual well being. So, if your religion says it is moral to kill some one for say, adultery, I would say that adultery is immoral by itself, because it disrupts both social and individual well being, but killing some one for it is even more immoral for the same reasons. The moral compasses are entirely different.
@@Alientcp Sorry to say you're not demonstrating any understanding at all. If you are a Christian your morals come from being raised up and educated by other Christians. They may be trying to interpret the concept of morality through an understanding of the nature of God from writings in scripture but they are not being given morality directly from God. And it's never a dictate from authority for anyone because every person has the choice to disobey any authority at any time; they weigh the consequences. The morality that comes directly from God is empathy and conscience and everyone has these whether Christian or not. If you are an atheist you are taught your set of morals by the people you study and admire, same as Christians but they are atheists. Morality is not inherited it is taught, so any atheist saying they inherited morality from the social behavior of apes probably has no concept of morality. An atheist who says some behavior is immoral but the punishment for it is also immoral can't really claim to know anything about social well-being. If you don't defend morality from violation then you don't support it and your society will self-destruct it will not have greater well-being.
We were put on earth by God to learn, not to repeat the same behavior again, and again. By doing that we would have stayed up on the trees. It´s time for Islam to move forward, to learn to respect the free election of people.@@gorkyd7912
When I was uni in Malaysia, there were a few Pakistani students at my cafeteria seated at the table directly behind. They were talking about non-Muslim nations and how people of those nations are vile and they deserve bad treatment. I turned around and said to them “is that what you think of me”. They all went quiet and eventually one of them responded “yes, that’s what we have believe firmly”. I was gobsmacked.
We invited this evil into the west and its only gonna keep growing until some sort of tipping point when Europe realizes "Oh shit, these people ALL want to rule us", and by that point most likely the US is gonna have to go in to clean up Europe's mess a third time.
It's not their fault tbh. It's the narrative that has got them. They must have grown listening to this narrative again and again. And now that they aren't in Pakistan, they probably live with/around people who share the same belief as them. That's why it is so important to spend time with people who aren't from the same background as you. You learn a lot that way. It changes your perception of the world. Hopefully these guys learn this someday. Or else they will end up teaching the same narrative to their children and they'll grow up to become the same as their fathers.
in our (western) countries, we don't do shit that the porn industrie controls the teens and all the people, we don't do shit that the media, the music brainwashes our kids to be hedonistic animals. We brainwash whole society to think of us "liberal and free" and better than all the people who still live in villages in africa or middle east. And you think they are bad for thinking our countries deserve bad?
I am an ex Muslim. I haven’t seen my parents or siblings in 27 years as l don’t trust them. I am female and l am so glad to have left a false pagan religion. I became a Christian two decades ago, and l love Jesus. I am save by the blood of Christ and l know how much he loves me. I don’t care that my family has rejected me, as l know that only Jesus can save me, and the love l feel from God.
I'm glad that you left. This is finally the first time I see a female testimony that was a muslim but then converted to Christianity and Im glad for you. Because you left a male-supremacist system that oppresses Women.
Im sad that happened with your family, but im glad Jesus touched your heart and blessed you. “Let not your heart be troubled” Jesus is with you and all of us
God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
@@TomasSchmidt00 Jesus is exclusive John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. “; right here Jesus called every religion a lie He is the truth. Believe what you want but the fact of the matter is humans are sinners in need of the saviour. Jesus did not only die on the Cross, but He also rose again from the dead. This is huge and you ought to listen to Him today.
@@MrZach012 In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
That's what Islam calls Taqiyya. It permits deceit and plays victim. Thats why the radical left is in bed with Islam because victimhood mentality is one of their core techniques.
I’m so thankful that I was born in a Christian family, and in the United States. Don’t take it for granted. Imagine being born in an Islamic country where you will be killed for leaving Islam. Don’t take your freedom for granted.
If the USA becomes majority Muslim... 'God' help the world 😢 I think you're right, it makes me sad/angry looking at many of the American youth of today that don't know how lucky they are being American with religious freedom... I mean all countries have flaws but a Christian raised USA has contributed lots of good to the world!
mohammed was the messenger of Hubal(lah) also know as allah and huballah. Mohammed message was the everyone should bow down and worhsip the Kabaa temple and moon rock in the kabaa that belong to huballah the pagan god. That huballah had talked to mohammed to in a dream telling mohammed he was the one true god not Jesus. The Kabaa was a small temple that had various pagan god statues and Huballah was the top pagan god, the name hubal mean god of gods and allah means king of gods. Even back than Huballah was considered the top true god of the Meccan people in Saudia Arabia and even to mohammed. Mohammeds father and granddad owned the statue of Huballah that was in the center of the Kabaa and the moon rock belonged to huballah and it was passed down to mohammed whose mission was to say that Huballah was the true god and that he mohammed was the messenger of Huballah. The moon and star the muslims use was used to represent Huballah the moon God and the black moon rock in the Kabaa the muslims fall down and worship to belonged to Huballah the moon God.
@@KINGandWINNER Thank you very much for bringing some briefly information like this of previous faiths of the islam religion, which origins are very obscure. I remember back in 2011 I think, I was intrigued to read a book in my native language I cannot exactly remember the title, but it sounds something like: "The prophetical signs of the end of times". It must have been translated from English. It wasn't very thick, about 200 pages but the information presented in the book was quite interesting, even if I wasn't totally agree with some things. I can remember it was largely exposing in its subject the role of Vatican and its revelations at Fatima. On the other hand it was a little about the islam and its origins and the author of the book criticized it by saying that muslims must ask themselves if they are honest, how islam worship the true God, if Mecca and Medina was built on the ruins of previous notorious, most important pagan temples of that times? And it was mentioned in the book the name of that previous pagan temples but I cannot remember. If you consider you can help me somehow to remember, you're wellcomed.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
No, not so fast! These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better: 1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed? 2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life. 3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them? 4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD. 5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it. Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worshiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
@@tommybond8630lol you don’t convert that many people Muslims have always been dishonest. It is what they teach you in the Quran, that you can lie to achieve your goals… it’s called Taqiya. Imagine your holy book teaching you that it’s okay to lie to get what you want. That’s why Muslims are dishonest! Taqiya : concealment of one's thoughts, feelings, or character; pretence for a religious goal … in this case conversion.
@@ritagitau-ck9it Is that God Jesus? If so, when God, Jesus, said in the Old Testament to kill disobedient children, to burn daughters alive, to stone adulterers, was that law coming from him or not?
@@nunya54you're getting it wrong Jesus is God in flesh that is the word of God which is God (John 1:1) God never said all this, those who burned their children were those of the Abomination of the Amorites and because of this God told his people to utterly destroy them.. The church on the long run has had bad days and the church traditions is so wrong that even Christ criticized the Jewish laws, because they were getting it wrong. If you choose to follow the law then you need to bear the consequences the Israelites choose to follow God and they need to do it all whose heartedly the Israelites were stiff necked people even God wanted to destroy them if not that Moses pleaded. Christ's sacrifice came and the law was abolished cos even Our creator said an age will come when men will seek knowledge times have changed and human disposition has changed too even if God hasn't Changed. The whole message is that of love , humanity is love. Religion should not be a reason to kill. God told the Israelites to kill those who worship idols but with repentance it's abolished,the wages of sin is death this is in the new testament,but Christ redeems us so we don't have to die. Even in the old testament when you sin,you sacrifice animals for your redemption so it's not a complicated issue.
@@awetoyosi No New Testament scholar believes John is authentic. It's a Johannie literary developed product. They don't consider it a historical source because it is late, highly developed gospel. It is a developed rather than an original gospel. Even conservative Christian scholars no longer believe that Jesus actually said the words attributed to him in John. John presents a radically different presentation of the life and ministry of Jesus. All the great I Am Sayings are only in John. They're only found in John. All the amazing, weighty statements are only in John. What did he say about himself, the only places he describes himself as a divine being is only in the gospel of John? Doesn't make sense. If it's true that Jesus was going around saying it to his disciples and people, how is it that three of our gospels don't mention it or their sources q, l and m? It should be an important thing to mention if he actually did but they don't say it. Most critical scholars suspect this is a view that develops later and is not historically what Jesus is saying. The author is putting words on the lips of Jesus. The gospels were not held in high regard by the early Christians, They were not verbally exact and none was authoritative (John Bartman). They were not originally scripture. They became scripture. Only over time did collections even out and come to be see as two components on an equal level. They didn't hold those manuscripts to be exact revelation or divine like the Torah. If you followed the eyewitnesses to Jesus' life, you would not believe the New Testament was the word of God because early Christians did not believe that. No one in the first century had the New Testament as a compiled work (A History of the Bible. The Book and Its Faiths, John Barton). It doesn't reflect the beliefs of the early Christians who held Jesus as a prophet for three centuries.
My Grandfather killed his own daughter (my aunt) and got away with it because of the Islamic Sharia law. She (age 15) had to marry someone that she didn´t love and when her husband(around 30) was sentenced for life in Jail for killing another person , she reconnected with her first love from her youth and my grandfather found out about it and she was beaten half dead and burried alive. I was born in Iran but thank to Jesus I came to Germany as a child and I can tell you that ISLAM as a relligion and Idiologie is the pure EVIL ...
that's the saddest part of following religion more than human values. In Islam there is not much of scope to debate it. whatever is written is the final truth. that's it
Mein herzlichstes Beileid 💔 Hoffentlich dürfen wir hier noch etwas länger in Sicherheit leben, angesichts der Gefahr, die wir nun auf deutschen Straßen erleben 😢 Unfortunately it's getting more dangerous even in Germany.....
@@mzion4686what do you mean? My daughter has to go there in the spring with the military and wants to go see some places. I lived in Stuttgart in the early 70s and it wasn't bad that I can recall
to rebuttal his argument at 9:25: Deuteronomy 13:6 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend SECRETLY ENTICES you, saying, 'Let us go and worship other gods...'" God is commanding Israel to nip at the bud immediately anyone who comes with malicious intent to entice THEM to come with them and worship foreign gods and abandon and renounce YHWH. God is not saying if someone among them makes the personal decision to walk away from worshiping Him that they should kill them for their rejection of YHWH. In fact, time and time again Israel worshiped many other gods and they did receive judgement from God but you never saw them slaughtering one another for their unbelief. God has always desired from the beginning that His people would freely love Him and choose Him and just as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 2:4 "My speech and my preaching were not with ENTICING words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power" it is God's heart that people would not only hear the Good News of Jesus but experience it and that THAT alone would cause them to come to Him. Not out of fear that if they don't, they will be murdered.
@@mohiruddin8207 there's no jesus in Quran, fool. only isa, that guy whom no one knows the location of his birth, when was he born, how long did he live... isa is a character made up from the imagination of Arabs to deceive people from coming to the True Messiah YESHUA
Brother Rachid really nailed it when he says "even Jesus does not kill adulterer woman in New Testament, giving example that Old Testament murderous law is replaced with forgiveness"
It wasn't replaced. It was fufilled when Jesus died. God's wrath was taken out on Jesus. Those laws still applied which He took the punishment for. The point to that was, nobody is righteous TO kill someone for their sins, as we ALL have sin. Nobody has the ability to kill ANYONE for sinning. We are all unrighteous made righteous through Jesus' blood.
God sent a messiah to save us from the consequences of our sins...death! 1 Corinthians 15:55-57 King James Version 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better: 1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed? 2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life. 3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them? 4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD. 5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it. Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worsiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
This ex Muslim man speaks the honest truth. "HONOR KILLINGS" really are a standard recognized practice in all Muslim countries at times. Most muslim countries have few or even no laws against "honor killings", because tragically the general populace supporrs that kind of practice. Honor killings have even been done in non-muslim countries, such as Canada, Brazil, the U.S. and even Japan. A prime example happened here in the U.S about ten years ago. A taxicab driver had two beautiful well behaved daughters. He became more and more incensed, and then enraged, because in his view they were becoming gradually ever more "westernized" and he believed that was sinning against Islam's teachings. He murdered both of them , then fled to the protection of other muslims that sympathized with that belief. After a number of years he was finally discovered hiding with his brother. He was arrested for the murders Amnesty International, and the U.N. both say that around 5,000 honor killings, mostly of women, happen every year. And the trend is gradually rising. The people that do the murders are almost always family members, typically a father or brother. Let's ask ourselves, .. is that what a true religion would condone and actually promote ?!?
No, it's backed up by the religion. There's lot of verse in Quran say things like that and ur stupid muhammad prophet the one who do that. I'm from Indonesia, people can get killed by stupid muslim just cause they mocked stupid muslim prophet, not only that the punishment for religion mockery is apply only for non-muslim. Example there's a case of Christian debate about Muhammad behavior and callout muhammad is a pedophiles, which this argument is true anyway and he get jail time for 10 years, even before get sentence he was planned to be killed, luckily this was discovered before he even died, last time we heard this guy couldn't walk anymore. The perpetrator of this act is a police officer and has never been detained until now. and as usual, stupid Muslims praised his actions. on the other hand there's muslim mocking Christian get jail time for only 3 month and there's a lot of case that never get to court. if muslim do that, the whole country suddenly deaf.
@@bluelightmoon777the Quran explicitly calls for nonbelievers to be killed. It also states that a woman's worth is less than that of a man's. Their "prophet" Muhammad, if he existed, forced himself upon a literal child and kept sex slaves. So, this violent mysogyny is intertwined with Islam.
That complete dodge and deflection at 17:44 was EPIC. A thing of beauty! If you can't answer the question ... just answer another one that no one asked.
The Christians in the video reject their own scripture and its rulings while claiming to be Christians. this is called apostasy in Christianity. How can they sit there and deny the words of God and say they have come with something better than it and say that his rulings are outdated/not needed.
@@shadowstorm5261 that's largely old testament, jesus came down you idiot. What did he say to the women who comitted adultery? He said do not stone her, SPARE her. Jesus does not believe in such punishments, and he is him. That was revolutionary at the time and in fact when he said that the jewish leaders(pharises) at the time were appalled and questioned jesus. Islam is a joke, unlike the bible, it allows for child marriage at the age of 6. and sex at the age of 9 or 10. That's sick, and muslims by and large believe this too and praise Muhammed for marrying aisha at age 6 and penetrating her at age 9.
@@shadowstorm5261 It's called freedom. You should try it. Feels good and be able to live a peaceful life without someone wanting to kill you cause you don't agree with them.
@shadowstorm5261 when Jesus came, He said the old will pass away, meaning the old testament and He replaced it with the New Testament....thus, the Christians in this video were not going against the Bible
I’m a Ex-Muslim that found Jesus. The greatest decision I’ve made for myself. I still have a lot of respect and love for my Muslim brothers and sisters because the ones I’ve met and crossed paths with, were genuine people.
@@2006amran Jesus and Prophet not exist in Islam, those all are Jews. The false stories in Islamic teachings are as false as any claim in Islam. 95% of Islamic teachings about worshiping god with 100% imitating and following whatever Muhammad said and did, a pedophile, cheater, fornicator, rapist, robber, murderer and all the barbarity that humans can think of. In the context of praising God, you can see that every terrorist will shout ALLAHUAKBAR, kill and behead people, rob, rape as has just been demonstrated by HAMAS where Muslims all over the world are praising God by shouting ALLAHUAKBAR. Islam is a disgusting religion that teaches every Muslim to be a terrorist and racist and they are praising god... yes, the god of Islam is the real DEVIL.
Amen hallelu Yah! 😊 Jesus is the way the truth and the LIFE ❤ God bless all who seek the truth with every inch of their soul and understands it when they see it! Peace and mercy on you, in Jesus name, Amen ✝️🙏
They are no longer your brothers ,dont know where you arrive at this mindset,it is not scriptural. And if you find yourself back in a Muslim country ,you WILL be murdered as an apostate.
16:17 this brother said it all. I truly felt his pain and sadness. This is the gospel. I don't understand why these muslims think they understand what Christianity is because they read some old testament books.
@@ngozinwankwo5051they try to find any passage that can possibly relate or even agree with theirs , but then when the Bible disagrees with them , they say the Bible is corrupted 😂
In the First Testament (as Scot McKnight likes to call the Hebrew scriptures), YHWH was claiming both the land as sacred space and the Israelite people as a nation of priests to the Nations to live in His land. That's why when the Israelites abandoned YHWH and were doing evil things including child sacrifice, YHWH kicked them out of His sacred space to Assyria and Babylon as a way to clean out sacred space. This was temporary.
The Christian might extend that to why the remaining people of the tribe of Judah were temporarily kicked out again after Babylon in 70 AD until 1948 after rejecting Jesus as YHWH's promised suffering servant and representative to accomplish what Israel was supposed to accomplish (e.g. Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness success was representative of Israel's 40 years in the wilderness failures, etc...). Could it happen again? I hope not... but are they being a nation of priests to the world? Destruction of the nation would mess with all the Dispensational interpretations of Biblical eschatology. I have a different interpretation framework so it's not inconceivable to me that God could do this again without messing up the framework.
@@nunya54 God can rewrite his laws, as he did on the cross. clearly the old law was not working so God has created a new law that works for him and sorts out the sheeps from the goats
Except this goes against what most Christians say that God cannot change@@williesreserve7475 God did change right? He changed his laws, became Jesus? coming to earth because he couldn't understand humans any other way and killed himself to pay the price he himself set. Why does God need the blood sacrifice of himself to forgive sins?
@@williesreserve7475 If Jesus is God, he set the cost and then paid the price himself? This does not make sense. God cannot die and this would make God an unjust, not loving God. God can do anything which means He can also forgive sins. If this is true, that means God required a blood sacrifice which means he's not loving. He wanted an innocent person to die for things he did not do. Who believes that about God? Good thing there is no evidence this is true. The first followers of Jesus during that time did not believe Jesus died. The people that actually saw Jesus did not believe that. James, the disciples, the early sects of Christianity, all closest to him in time, did not believe he died. It was common knowledge in the first century that he did not. It's not true. There's much evidence against it. It was another made up story of the gospel writers.
I am a former Muslim too I converted to Christianity. It’s love, peace and unity. Even tho I suffered and still suffering from where I was living, society, relatives and even my own family until today while I live in the USA and I’m still suffering because according to their faith and Islam I’m ( kafer) which described in Quran that I should be prosecuted! Meanwhile I’m sad because the US government is issuing visa, green Card and citizenship to these radical islamists who are on the streets and protesting against US and Israel. They ruined the asylum process, most of these people not in danger in anyways while when they get here they lie over lie that we are in danger back in their country the only reason they are here is because their countries doesn’t have good economy so they get here they get rich, they buy houses, they get citizenship, they send money back to their country, they eve go and visit the country they came in after getting Green Card and citizenship and they advertise Islam, they want to change the society and communities and no one is getting their way! While those who are really in danger because of their ideology and believe they are living a life where you can’t have status, no work authorization, no place to live, no support from NGO’s and unfortunately this is the reality of today so far in USA.
Okay as a Muslim I’m wishing you the best of luck in your next life but don’t consider all Muslims being like that. Nowadays we tend to believe that it’s Allah (God) who’s going to judge you. I’m half American half Djiboutian. I do have Christian Djiboutians friends back home and they live in a 99% muslim country and it doesn’t harm them. I will still make dua for you personally and wish for you to come back to Islam someday, but not wishing you harm as well. Take a chill pill!
I love being a Christ follower. I love everything about Christinity. God is not interested in religion but in a relationship. My Muslim family is so lost . They need Jesus. I will never give up praying for them.
Why didn’t Jesus show up and what is Jesus waiting for? Jesus actually is a slave of a God and he’s a messenger. He will never do anything to you or respond to your messages as long as God didn’t give him the order.
They are lost and did lose. They can never win since they literally have no evidence to support their religion. They even seem confused that just because they don't follow their scripture doesn't mean they don't believe in it. And if they don't believe in it, then why are they even Christian and what do they base their beliefs upon? They either don't know their religion or scripture or they're being hypocritical though it's hard to blame them; Christianity is very illogical and hypocritical.
I hope we watching the same video listen carefully to their words These 2 Christians have no back bone atleast these 2 brothers stood their ground The christians oh no we also get threats and Muslims are more uncontrollable so yea. Oh no we don't do old testament No back bone
tell that to the nutjobs in Pakistan oppressing and killing Christians mate; all well and good in theory until you get some crazed mob on your door step@@hassanbadrek2726
Islam does not mean peaceful like some say but rather it PRODUCES peace when practiced. It's often repeated because many people, particularly now with seeing Islam grow, are often spreading misinformation or just ignorant about the religion and countries that rule by it (like saying they're war-torn, violent countries which is very false). The propaganda and misinformation about Islam only grows, so, yes, people will continue to repeat it to correct the misinformation or lies people spread about it.
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims...
@@danielbarry5547 In the Quran, Jesus is taken to heaven, but no record says mohammd is in heaven, not even the Quran. There are 26 different arabic versions of quran( u can google it), which one is real? Mohammd has disobeyed all commandments of God, which means he disobeyed God himself. Mohammd has killed, raped, did child marriage, married his sons wife, owned sex slaves and so on. Mohammd drastically died from poison, a very normal human. Even God didn't warn him and mohammd can't predict. Jesus never did any sin. Like Jesus said he is next to his father in Heaven.
@@danielbarry5547, No they don't say the same thing at all. Infact, Islam says the opposite of Christianity. Plus, Islam fundamentally and vehemently denies the Incarnation, the Trinity, the Crucifixion and Resurrection, which sets the bench mark for Christianity. So, how are they the same thing? Islam hasn't got a problem with child brides, chopping people limbs off in the opposite direction if anyone steals anything, slavery, taken another man's wife etc etc, Christianity opposes such practices. How are they saying the same thing? Islam has apostasy laws where if someone leaves Islam, under Shariah Law, they would be put to death, there is also the killing of homosexuals etc. Christianity opposes such practice. How are the saying the samething? If a woman has affairs outside her marriage (which she often doesn't bc her husband wanted to get rid of her), she would be put to death by stoning. When a large group of men wanted to stone Mary Magdaline, Jesus stepped in and stopped it by telling them those without sin cast the first stone. Jesus then told her to go and sin no more. How are they the same? There are so many examples, but I've given you a few why they're not the same as they're in direct opposition to one another! Islam took the Torah aka Old Testament and the New Testament and between Muhammad and Allah they both butchered and twisted the characters and themes of the bible that its almost become unrecognisable. That's called plagiarism and theft. As I said at the top, they're not at all the same.
In the Northern part of Nigeria where it is mostly dominated by Muslims. Thousands of honest Christians have died due just being Christians in peace. It’s so sad to think that it was seen as a crime of being themselves and living to what they believe in.
thats very upsetting, whats even more upsetting is that these people who r representing islam. It is against the religion to kill people for simply being a different religion or have a different belief system. People like those damage the image and name of islam.
@@nunya54, unfortunately Boko Haram has free reign on murdering Christians. Teenage Christian girls are continuously being kidnapped and forced into marriage to Muslim men. If they resist, they are killed. Christian children in Egypt are continuously being kidnapped by Muslims and being raised as such. This is why so many Christian parents have crosses tattooed on their child’s arm to remind them that they are Christians.
I am a Muslim, and what I have learned is the importance of peace and empathy towards our fellow humans. I have been taught never to harm anyone, regardless of the situation. I will not harm any human or animal, even if someone tries to kill me, because I believe that I cannot give life, and therefore, I have no right to take a life. As the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Whoever kills a soul unjustly, it is as if he has killed all of humanity." (Sahih Muslim). This teaches us the sacredness of life and the importance of compassion and restraint in all circumstances. While it is true that war and violence were permitted in some cases during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), this was due to the specific context of his time, when the early Muslim community was under threat and needed to defend itself. However, Islam always emphasizes the importance of choosing the peaceful path whenever possible. We are instructed to seek peace and reconciliation, and to resolve conflicts through dialogue and understanding, even in the face of adversity.
Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.
There is no bridge to bring the Muslims and the Christians together. The Muslims' side agreed that apostate should be killed. The Christians disagreed. The Muslims said, you are not following the Old Testament command to kill apostate. The Christian asked the Muslim, you are an apostate. Should I kill you? The Muslim answered, yes. 😅
@@bluesky45299 Yo bro you seem like you know a lot about religion. May I ask why islam denies the crucification of Jesus. Because from what I've heard of religious and secular sources it seems to be a historical fact. Btw I'm just curious this question isn't to trigger anyone.
What I see from the 2 Muslim brothers is the classic counter argument, which is not addressing questions directly but rather deflecting and redirecting the argument to try to create a false equivalence.
It's not a false equivalence. If Christians claim the Old Testament is from God and the Word of God, then to be critical of Islam for the same laws would be critical of their own God.
Because it is the Bible does not mean it is prescriptive Yes, it is the word of God, but also God in flesh has fulfilled that law 2000 years ago. Hence that law is descriptive and prescriptive in its historical environment and context but not in the new covenant brought by Jesus Christ who fulfilled and was innocently put to death by the law
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@@nunya54 It is when Christ came back and corrected the old laws. Thats the difference your using a whatabout but Christ already dissavowed the thing your whatabouting. It proved Christ corrects the ild testament and by effect your viewpoint as well.
@@nunya54 That is wrong. The Old Testament is the story of the Lord's chosen people. The laws were revealed in Exodus for Moses and his Israelites as they travelled to the land of Canaan. Levitical laws are for the tribe of Levi, the priests. Leviticus are laws that the priests follow and mete out. Deuteronomy were rules that the Israelites followed as they travelled through Zin. Once you get to Joshua, you see how the nation of God's chosen people rises and falls and break their covenant. The New Testament is the story of Christ and his followers, and how they establish the way for people to be saved from sin. The previous laws had not applied for ages because their era came, rose, and fell into corruption.
@@easydayvlog1743 hmm.. a Christian with a new heart, perspective, principles.. turning away from the old me and being born in faith through Jesus. Yes, if this is what you meant c:
@@CrislanieDelosReyes Here in this world under the Sun anything happen to you is by your own choice. With your choice it shows how good is your heart. Muslims (Islam) claim that Muhammad is the last prophet and he was given a book called Quran. But if you ask them question who was they witness of all this? They become very angry and aggressive. If you read the Bible, Moses introduced God to Israel and God Himself showed up by descending from Heaven on top of the Mount of Sinai with flame of fire when He gave them 10 commandments. More than 1 500 000 of people of Israel witnessed that event. When the Lord Jesus Christ came He told His disciples that you are my witnesses. When He came back to life after death more than 500 people saw Him. This truth is indisputable. That makes the Bible the only trustworthy source of belief. Any claim of belief that provides no evidence of witness at least 2, it's self defeated. There are many sources in Arab culture that shows that Allah is a Pagan god meaning a demon deceiver, a liar and murderer. That's why you can see anything in Quran is about killing and violence. Haven't you ever asked yourself a question why all terrorists are Muslims? Because Islam is a satanic sect. The devil was very happy to create Islam because no demon can match Islam when comes to evil on this planet.
They are missing two points here… They are missing that there was a progressive revelation of God through prophets throughout Old Testament history. The true nature of God is then finally revealed in Christ. (He rebukes his disciples for wanting to call down fire on people just like Elijah did) The other thing that they are missing is that there was no other way to deal with sin or inherited demons before the death of Christ and total defeat of sin.
How so? This seems a typical intra-religious argument where a conservative islamicist tried to equivocate the barbarism practiced today by creating straw-men arguments and reaching back in antiquity to laws which haven't been sanctioned in millennia.
What part of "we think you deserve to die because of your apostasy" is incredible to you, I'm baffled at ya'll. Chirtians as an exmuslim atheist like what are you trying to do??
Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they are.@@negaro9113 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Matthew 7:21
I'm so jealous of people born into Christian families and countries. I was born and raised Muslim, then realized Islam is not true later in life. I've lost so many people because of this decision.
Luke 14:25-27 '25 Many people were traveling with Jesus. He said to them, 26 “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters-even more than your own life! 27 Whoever will not carry the cross that is given to them when they follow me cannot be my follower.'
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this: Deuteronomy 13:-> "If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you." and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen. And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY
@@kappamancan4903 All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363yeah right God created us, then sent himself on earth, then died for us so save us from himself😂 completely makes sense also God is something we can’t imagine. He is not limited to time or location. He IS everywhere and all the time. Now Jesus was a human being staying in one place, using toilet, eating like normal human being. Also he didn’t KNOW when’s the day of judgement. How „God” can’t know this? If you won’t leave your comfort zone and discover other religions, you can’t be sure yours is the ultimate truth. May Allah guide you.
When he says that the guy who converted from Christianity to Islam is not under threat of death and he who went from Islam to Christianity is, that was the mic drop. They can bring up the old testament, but it doesn't matter. Your life is not in danger for leaving Christianity. In many other religions, it is.
U do understand that the only reason u are not in danger for leaving christianity is because they changed the word of god in to their on beliefs wich means that whatever rules christians follows these days is not the rules of god its the rules of a human. We shouldn’t question god we should only follow his rules no matter what and unfortunately christians think too much with their emotions instead of what has to be done. We muslims have been following the same rules since day one because we know for a fact that changing something about quran is not permissible because it would mean that we are not pleased of what god has told us to do simple as that.
@@Asureofficial the Bible is progressive revelation. The former passes away and the example from Christ on is pretty clear. Christ is very clearly the fulfillment of the OT prophecies. Length of time is irrelevant when the belief system is wrong from the beginning. There's no need to execute unbelievers, they will be judged accordingly at the end. There's not one example in the NT of someone being executed for leaving the church. Not one. The closest might be Ananias and Sapphira. I don't know the reasons God commanded it in the OT. Most likely it was because the Messiah had not yet come, so humans carried the full ramifications of their sins. God invites questioning in the Bible, he says, "come let us reason together." The truth does not fear questioning.
@@Asureofficialobjectively false. It’s infuriating when people like you pull nonsense out of their butt when they don’t even know basic theology. Why speak up if you’re this clueless? I really don’t get it.
@@Asureofficial And thats exactly why you are a terrorist and a terrorist supporter. Atheist dont believe in Islam, nor any other religion, its not a matter of choice, its a matter of logical principle, we cannot deceive ourselves with imaginary beings that do not exist. We believe in freedom of thought. At least christian nations understand that simple concept, but its impossible to live with muslims because you kill people who do not accept your BS. Thats why muslim countries are backwards, you cannot progress because actually using the brain removes religion and faith.
I recall hearing that there were people who tried to warn Muhammad that he was likely receiving his prophecies from a Jinn rather than God. I think that’s a fair point given what I’ve heard spoken today.
Muhammad, if he did exist, sounds like a seriously mentally ill man who heard delusional voices in his head. Jinn's, angels, demons, and God's don't exist. Mental illnesses where people hear delusional voices in their heads do exist. The concepts and proof of mental illness didn't exist 1,300 years ago.
Quran came from an angel, well Bible written hundreds of years before Islam even started says this. Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
MO was possessed by a demon. After the first encounter with entity in a cave he said was Jibril-Gabriel. He ran out of the cave frothing with an epileptic fit. His wife told him it was a demon. Quran is from Satan. He is their God.
When Muslim bro starts quoting at 9:29 it’s literally an old scripture when Christian bro said that those types of scriptures aren’t valid in today’s Christian values. This is exactly what Jesus came to die for.
But Jesus came to uphold and fulfil those laws and scripture and he said those laws could not be abolished. Only Christians after him said they were and invented the story of his death to attract pagan converts to the new religion Paul created. Even if Christians don't follow those laws, they still believe in them and believe they were from God or were upheld by Jesus. So being critical of them in Islam means also being critical of them when God revealed, allowed and legislated the same and when Jesus upheld the same. It's hypocritical.
@@nunya54you’re wrong, respectfully. Jesus literally was performing miracles on the day of Sabbath, talking to women, touching lepers, and denouncing the authority of the religious leaders of the time, so no, he did not come to uphold the law.
@@joelmacias8818 Jesus said in his famous sermon of the sermon on the mount. Matthew, Chapter 5, verse 17 "Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill."
@@nunya54 Yes you are right Jesus came to fulfill the law. In the Old testaments sacrifices were made for forgiveness of sins. Jesus came and lived a sinless life to fulfill the law and requirements of God. So that he may be the perfect Holy sacrifice for once and for all for all people. Fulfilling the will of God and fulfilling the law of God. Now once Jesus died and fullfilled God's will. The new covenant is in effect now. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." So the scripture is clear here Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law which humans cannot fulfill in their own power. So those who believe in Christ and live according to the spirit are under the grace of God. But those who reject Jesus and live according to the flesh will be judged according to the law. Which will prove them to be guilty and deserving of spiritual death according to the Bible. So what do I mean by all this, Christians do not live under the law as Jews did in the old testament. We live under grace and we are called to be Holy. Now we don't stone people to death or kill someone for not believing in God. Bc Jesus himself set the standard when he was on earth. He forgave the lady who was caught in adultery. He did miracles on the sabbath. He healed the untouchables and lepers. He ate with sinners who religious people thought lowly of. He even disproved the religious Pharisees who were hypocrites. The thing he came to prove was love. He said if you love your God and love your neighbor you have fulfilled all the commands of God. So Christians live their lives under the grace of God not the law of God. For no man can stand before God and boast in fullflling the law. For the word is clear, all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.
@@nunya54The laws aren’t abolished, but we aren’t the ones who can give punishment because we all have sin. Jesus made that clear when he saved the adulterer and told her to sin no more. Meanwhile Islam is a fusion of Christian, Judaism and mostly Paganism which is why the punishments are so different.
In the Muslim's holy book, there is this verse, "There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from the wrong way." Surah Al-Baqarah (2:256). This verse is often cited to emphasize that faith should be a matter of personal choice without coercion. Scholars interpret this to mean that individuals should not be forced into or out of the religion.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
Yes, because Islam is religion rules and law that’s why is being hated and who cares if our religion is hated nothing will ever decrease at all and those will be the losers. If you believe in Christ why you don’t follow him can you explain, am talking about life style
@@Umatulmuhamad In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
@@TruthCademy Unclean person is a sinner Have you ever lied, desired something that belongs to someone else, stolen anything (big or small), used God’s Name in vain, been sexually immoral like looking with lust, watching poor, fornicating (premarital sex), had unforgiveness, hated someone, disrespected your parents, insulted someone or gossiped about someone, had evil thoughts. If you’ve sinned once you need to repent today and Believe in the good news of Jesus Christ. Romans 3: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
I am from the Uk 🇬🇧 Speaking from a former Muslim standpoint. I was a Muslim since childhood till around 15/16 I am 24 years old as of now. Living in a Muslim ideology is one of the most lifeless experiences I ever had. So you’ve just finished school at 3pm and you have until 5 before you begin the brainwashing till 7. And in that brainwashing there’s a lot of violence. Being bullied in school is another bad thing but then being physically abused at mosque is on another scale. When reading in the mosque you’re basically reading Arabic without any translation for what so ever. It’s so pointless you can’t even imagine. No child should be living in this slavery camp is what I call it. The amount of times I was afraid of my mosque life while being at at school I remember practicing my Arabic lines rather than what actually mattered was school. Islam just ruins your life because in a way you don’t even have a life no freedom for yourself. Wake up To school and then you have one hour of freedom after school and then it’s slavery time. There’s also another thing when I was around like 10-11 they then started doing some Saturday-Sunday events where they have some kind of preacher talking and I was only a kid remember that. The guy like shouts and screams violently into the mic and through a ton of speakers they had. I remember putting some tissue into my ears and you could still hear him. Anyway he talked and talked and spoke such heinous words speaking about why violence is the way of life and oh if somebody is lost in directions and they ask you. Your response should be that you tell them the wrong way even if you know that’s one example he gave which I thought really? I could go on and on but it pisses me off typing this negative energy. Jesus Christ died on that cross in Calvary and died for everyone’s sins through his own blood. The Way The Truth The Life
I felt goosebumps when he said Jesus came to stop the old testament , felt electrified maybe in the way he truly believes in Christ as a convert . These people act more christians than those who were born as christians or in a liberal country. These people appreciates peace and salvation most since they truly can testify the difference of both worlds .
They disapprove bible for being evil, but their own book says the same evil stuff, and much more. They can’t defend Islam. It isn’t possible. Islam was created to make warriors. To conquer land. NOTHING more.
I felt this statement is what won the argument. The Islamists kept going back to the OT on verses that were meant for a young nation of Israel, none of these are practiced by Christians. Furthermore, Jesus did stop the OT with His teachings of love your enemy as you love yourself, turn the other cheek, he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc. It was also scary hearing the 2 say that the Christian convert should be put to death based on Islamic law.
Jesus fulfilled the law of the Old Testament & set us free from it's wrath but taking it upon Himself.He was the only one who could do it as He was the pure & Holy Son of God in human form.
As a Christian, anytime, anywhere I'd be happy to discuss "slavery in the Bible", punishment for blasphemy, and the other issues he mentioned. Any Christian should be ok to discuss that. The problem with Islam is that there is to be NO discussion of Mohammad, or the nature of Allah.
You can discuss it. It's just that Muslims will not see the need to scrutinize what their God revealed compared to how Christians scrutinize their own religion and changed from it. It's not the same standard.
That's absolutely false. You do realise the Islamic golden age under the abassid Empire in Baghdad was exactly for the purpose of discussing religion of all types, belief systems, and philosophy.
It seems like the best way to convert someone to Christianity is to show them Islam. I think and hope that applies to current Muslims too, who would have so much to offer us in joining with Christ.
@@standard-user-name If they're a pagan perhaps due to some similarities Christianity has with some pagan faiths (which is due to Paul and the Church borrowing those ideas to easily attract them into Christianity). Otherwise, it is far too difficult for people to go from believing in one God who is all powerful, has complete knowledge and power and cannot be contained by the heavens (like the Bible says) to believing He can be contained inside a woman's uterus, lose power and knowledge and is three in one. Christianity has found it far too difficult over the years to convert Muslims (like Jews with similar beliefs about God). In Islam, God is Most Merciful and Just and loves to forgive the sins of the repentance whereas in Christianity he dies to pay the price of those sins. That and God being a person or three persons and changing so drastically is far too illogical for most people to believe if they're not raised up in the religion. The Trinity alone stumps many Christians raised in Christianity and causes them to leave the religion often.
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@@standard-user-nameFirstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state. In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system. DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted. DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS , AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON , WITH UR LOGIC TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA) FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
Never ever want to live in q Muslim country….like ever. This video really made me appreciate my country even more. Now I see why England is having so many problems.
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims...
I once struggled to understand nor accept Christ as God, I am a Christian, born into a Pentecostal Christian family but after hearing the reading of Deuteronomy from this Muslim guy, it further cement my believe in Christ Jesus as God Almighty in human form. Only God Himself can cancel such believe system. Thank You Jesus for rescuing us from the darkness of the dark ages, I hope the Islamic nations catches up soon. seeing the anger and annoyance in these muslim guys, I can see the ego and annoyance towards Christ Jesus as God....the male ego pupping. Its shocking how they have suspended their brain just to obey the command to kill anyone who leaves islam. Am so grateful God actually gives Christians the right to question Him and He is willing to answer back.
You probably should study your religion and Jesus then because Jesus followed the Torah all his life and so did the disciples and the first Christians after them for centuries and none of them believed Jesus was God btw.
I had a friend that was Muslim and become a Mormon. He tried to go on a mission but the church finally had to send him home after sending him to three different states because his uncle kept trying to kill him.
It’s crazy that every single time I see a Muslim debate anything about Islam they’re always angry and you can see the hatred in their hearts. I pray Jesus softens their hearts.
@@nunya54 lying? Who lies about knowing who God is 🙄? The fact that you say “they are lying about who Jesus is” instead of “they believe Jesus is God” sound like u purposely choose to be angry…
The early Church fathers, Paul . . . they were all known and established as liars. I'm not angry. I'm just saying people should be, if they claim to love and want to follow Jesus. @@Hanichoye
@@nunya54 ummm those are your beliefs and it’s okay but you should also respect ppl beliefs. In your logic others should be angry you think claims about Jesus being God are lies and believes he isn’t God. Would you be okay w that? Respect other’s beliefs as you want them to respect yours.
What are my beliefs exactly and what was disrespectful? Why would anyone be angry at the truth? The claims about Jesus being God ARE lies. Do you know the people who wrote those claims and what is known about them?@@Hanichoye Paul was established to be a liar. The gospel writers are not known but they have many parts in their writings that are considered false.
This man left Christianity without actually knowing Christ. His arguments make that evident. ”They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.“ 1 John 2:19
First, I believe that the Bible is the word of God. Since that is the case, the Bible says that they went out from us but were never of us. It also says that He who began a good work in the Christian will bring it to completion. It says that whoever believes in Christ will have *eternal* life. It says that nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ. Christ tells us that we will not perish and that nobody will snatch us out of His hand. Second, if I told you that I knew you and then started describing you in a way that does not represent who you are or made claims that don’t reflect your mind, can I say that I know you? There is no evidence of any knowledge of who Christ is as He has revealed Himself in His word. Repent and believe the gospel, the free gift of salvation to unworthy sinners through the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, not of our own works so no one can boast.
@@StillWatersFarm-w4z 1.firstly u made the claim that this man not knowing christ is the reason he left Christianity, even tho u do not know the guy whatsoever meaning there could be 101 reasons for the guys conversion. 2. The bible WAS the word of god. Humans then came and altered it and created different testaments and different bibles making it not 100% the word of god. There are many contradictions that are in the bible and u can find with a quick search however I can also myself identify them for u if u please. 3. I just want u to reread that last sentence u wrote and try and make sense of it " death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ" death of the lord? the all-knowing all-powerfull omnipotent dies?? this claim is faulted and makes no logical sense. Lastly, I believe that this guys conversion was simply because he actually found the true Jesus. I challenge u to learn about jesus peace be upon him the son of Mary in the Islamic point of view and why Muslims dont believe that a man who was given birth to be a creature of the universe and the almighty god. Dont know what is would cost u as I assume u already know Jesus peace be upon him and maybe u learn things that u havent even known about Jesus himself. ua-cam.com/video/na8aDYS8XXw/v-deo.htmlsi=vYbFqFu7or0HnIjq heres an interesting vid u might care to watch
Right!?!?! They are debating whether or not it is morally correct to murder people for their religious beliefs, for blasphemy, for apostasy. WTF?! In the absence of Islam, that's not even a debate, and it hasn't been for 300 years. The West came so far with the enlightenment, and now Islam is dragging us back to the middle ages where murder is seen as a good thing that makes god happy.
Here's something to remember though: ONLY in the Judeo-Christian founded nations you can live freely as an Atheist. In the Islamic ones, you'd be killed or forced to convert into Islam under the strict religious laws. Maybe just a tiny thing to appreciate about the left side of the screen's culture.
To admit that it is justified to punish someone by killing in Islam and then at the same time to say Islam is a peaceful religion is the epitome of madness.
Its perfectly logical. Islam is a peaceful religion for Muslims....not for those who aren't.
@@mvj1153That’s pretty damn good
Do you know there is a theory that Islam is actually a rip off of Christianity and Judaism, where do you think all this killing comes from if not from the bible. God punish, God isn't as peaceful as what humans or Christian want it to be even the symbolic of sacrifice of Jesus also by being crucified till death , you think the God is peaceful for human eyes ?
What happened to non-Muslims in Islamic countries say the truth how islam treat with non-Muslims... afganistan Bangladesh Pakistan are wiped out of non-Muslims by Islamists...they are the most hypocritical people in the world 😢
Not a peaceful religion that’s what they want people to think
I was born, raised, and forced to be a Muslim for 25 years. But I couldn’t take it anymore and I converted to Christianity. I can never go back to my birth country Iran and my family disowned me, but I don’t regret anything. I am going to live once, and I refuse to be the slave of other people’s beliefs.
Amen
Good for you Shay.
It must be so difficult, I hope that the overwhelming love of God compensates and is some comfort to you..❤
I’m happy you found Christ!..but I would seriously question why your family disowned you!..I know a few middle eastern girls that soon as they came over here they went wild sleeping around and being whores!..that’s a big thing in the west in terms of freedom!!..I happy you found Christ and freedom to live how you want but some people lie just to justify their disgusting life style
Anyone who leaves their family for Jesus Christ the Lord, will surely be blessed by him his grateful and peaceful love 💞 no matter where you living in the world Jesus Christ will never leave you alone because you choose him to be your saviour ❤️✝️
I find it disturbing how much respect is being given to this discussion when they actually call for one of these men’s death.
We need to pray.
They are not calling for the death of one another. The Muslim is approaching this from a philosophical perspective. Robert is claiming that his biggest grievance with Islam is that apostates (people who leave a religion) are to be put to death. However there is no way that Robert can logically prove that ordering an apostate is an objectively immoral act since his own religion claims the exact same thing. Jake is proving a point, not calling for the capital punishment on Rachid. Keep in mind this would need a full sharia government, with witnesses, trial, etc. none of these people have the authority to carry out capital punishment on Rachid under Islamic law.
Cont. Essentially they are exposing the hypocrisy of these two Christians
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He is Christian, Christianity does not call for the death of apostasy. This is false. The man when asked said apostates should die.
@@turdferguson7504 did you listen to the christian scripture that was read? about killing the family member, friend, etc, who tempts you to leave the religion? Or am i misunderstanding it because it seems very clear that even christianity has this order, even if it is not practiced.
Patrick is a good moderator
He just listens and he intervenes when necessary
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
He alone is immortal who lives in an inaproachable lighter no man can see or have seen. This is not Jesus I guarantee you.
@@Theyellowbosss People often say, “I’m not hurting anyone so it’s ok to sin (lying, stealing, sexual sins, disrespecting parents etc)” The same God who said to love your neighbour first said to love Him to the best of your ability. If you carry on sinning, then you do not love God but are selfish like the devil so you will be joined to your father in hell or repent of your sins and believe in Jesus as God so Jesus adopts you as His child and you will join Him in Heaven forever.
Religion is acceptable or unacceptable depending on the agenda it serves.
he's a christian
The fact that they clearly believe that people whom leave their religion should be put to death is HIGHLY disturbing.
Atleast they are honest.
That’s satan for you
Christianity: God is our judge and offered us a gracious pardon and actively does miracles _to bless us,_ but we have a choice whether we will follow God or Satan. As a representative of God, we are commanded to show His kind of true love even to people who are our enemies, seeing them as created in the image of God and with a desire to lead them to repentance from living in sin and salvation.
Expectation of eternity is that the sinful parts of you that you still struggle with will be purified, leaving Godly character and the good and wholesome fruits of the spirit as your character and new nature.
vs
Islam: people are the judge and should be tricking, coercing, killing, and any other deceitful or violent tactic to force people to follow a person who claimed to be god, but didn't do miracles and did things like threaten someone into letting him marry a pre-puberty little girl. Oh, but that's ok, because this warlord _might_ have waited until she was 13 to use her.
Blow yourself up to kill others and you'll get women for your selfish desires in the afterlife.
@@nemitv1157Christian’s are pretty honest. If you don’t repent and follow Christ and the commandments your going to hell where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. See. However he made a way for you.
@@nemitv1157how so? Because many hide from this fact
A Muslim can live here relatively peacefully, but can a Christian live in a Muslim state peacefully under the same circumstance? This is something that must change and we as Americans need to come to grips with Islam is not compatible with America today or ever.
Bingo.
islam doesnt seek to be compatible with ever shifting morality and modern day liberalism and hedonism. Islam is for all times and a perfect book nuanced in its approach covering all judicial topics. Islam is simple , easy to practice, and its not overbearing at all.
We have many Christians in our country (Oman) who never faced any burning of their book or any attacks to what they wear while on the other side Muslim women get attacked in western countries because of the hijab or group of men getting attacked because they are praying.
Our neighbours are Christians and we meet on daily basis never did they say that we are scared to live here. Besides religion, they feel safer living here since the percentage of crime is way more less than USA and bullying is barely known. Alhamdullilah for Islam and i always say you got to search of Islam not from the enemies but from the people of Islam themselves.
@@omaniomani6178false!
Actually, yes, in many Muslim countries when the population is 80, 90%, Muslim and 10% Christianity or other religions Muslims do not go out their way to harm those are the people at all unless they are provoked first. Know your rights know your facts before talking that bullshit
I'm not a religious person but I feel so lucky that I was born in a Christian country 🎉
Being born in a Christian country doesn't get you into Heaven. Only accepting Christ as personal Savior does. Don't let good fortune send you to Hell because you never saw a need for a savior.
U think ur lucky cuz ur pastors teaches u life is just a phase and everyone will end up in heaven cuz jesus christ dies for our sins even if youre a serial killer. If its like that then why are we here on earth? What is the point exactly
Christian is peace, you can do what you want, you can do it with freedom
You cant even spell it. We don't live in a "Christian" country. If we did, I would be a practicing Christian. But I am not, and I can still go about my day. Name the passage from our Constitution that describes establishing a "Christian" country. Its not there. Only a reference to "God" . What God? It doesn't say.
I hope you’re not referring to the United States as a Christian country because it’s definitely not one…
You will know a tree by its fruit. The way the Muslim could not have a peaceful conversation and respectful, the Christian remained levelheaded as an indication of the fruit of the Holy Spirit.
I always think about that. Watch any muslim in argument on social media, they can never speak peacefully or calmly . they always shout or be aggressive.
Just see your hypocrisy when you people lost you cry Go search aramaic word for god lil kid
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
when was the holy spirit mentioned in the bible
@@days23411read it and you’ll see. God bless
16:25 Rashid said that “if Muslims are a majority today, these two brothers would witness my killing in front of the people and they will be happy, cheering the crowds that I was killed”. The two brothers did not refute or interrupt his statement there like they did everywhere else.
I don’t know enough about Islam to hate it but this ☝🏾 is concerning
Watch ex-muslim conversations and you will find lot of concerning stuff.
the bible says the same to kill the apostate if you watched the whole podcast you would have known
if you believe in bible then this should not be a concern for you
@@shykhsaif8781Where does Jesus say to kill apostates?
Watch David wood and apostate prophet
@@shykhsaif8781the old testament law was done away with in the new testament and the coming of Jesus. Jesus made a new covenant
To be born a Christian or just to be born in a Christian nation is a blessing a lot of us take for granted.
Same here, glad to be born Muslim
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Find out the origin of Christianity then you will know its not near what you thought.
@@ibrahimhajji6210 Find out the origin of Islam then you will know its not near what you thought. Because your Prophet wasn't as good as you thought. Forget what anyone said about him and research, you'll realise what I mean.
@sarahrose7269 if you thought Islam started with prophet Muhammad you have a long way to go...do your homework and get back to me.
I thank God to be born a Christian. What a blessing
i thank god to be not a hypocrite like you.
Faith come by hearing, and hearing by the word of God
Well you can’t be born saved, that’s a conscious decision you have to make for yourself. But yes, being born into a Christian family is such a blessing 🥰🥰
@@journeybug3050 those guys on the left got exposed as liars and hypocrites in this podcast.
@@journeybug3050 yea because they are using the bible
This video says everything you ever need to know about Islam.
Seek better sources. It really doesn't. DUS Dawah is good.
@@nunya54 the miracle of reinterpretation on Iman.....are you shia or sunni?
Sounds like one of the catchy phrases Christians use to distract from not actually having any proof Islam is false.
How tho?
@@nunya54Iam from majority Muslims nations and what u hear from this podcast were only 1, percent of the real issues about how evil islam faith teaching could be. And yes when they are majority the non Muslims but will always be in threat. The only religious not allow to criticize are islam. But it okay for them to criticize others. It only one way but can't be both side. Stop sugar coating your religion sweety, look at Europe now.. Eventually what the guy said about the sharia law when they become majority were right all this time
As an Orthodox Christian from Balkans, we have an almost of 500 years of history with Islam. The moment they are majority or stronger force, you can see their true colors. Islam is not a religion, its a political movement masked as a religion.
As someone from Balkans, youre full of bs. You dont know leaders use religion as excuse to divide and conquer? You know muslims christians and orthodox christians lived peacefully for centuries until it was time for corrupt leaders to listen to their masters to divide and conquer them? So living for centuries peacefully shows you nothing right? Get real
Sure, it's a complete way of life unlike Christianity which can't rule societies or govern the lives of individuals well.
What are "their true colors"?
@@HSarwar422Slavery, child marriage, war and domination
To eliminate others@@HSarwar422
"He who is without sin may throw the first stone"~ Jesus Christ
And you know whats amazing, in that crowd, only Jesus was without sin, so He had the right to cast the first stone. The Law Himself chose forgiveness, chose Grace and chose love, all He said to her was "go and sin no more" , this is the new covenant we follow that was promised by God in the Old Testament.
@@Chartail1never looked at it this way so cool
That's an interpolation not found in the oldest manuscripts of the 4th Gospel
He who throws a stone at me, I will reply with a rock. Muslim, Christian or fish.. Jimboslice
John 16:2
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
Rachid is a hero. I am moroccan as well. Ex-muslim and now I am christian.
Welcome, brother. I tried to be amicable to Muslims online, but after the way i have been treated by so many of them, i don't think they are trust worthy.
You laugh but your soul cries.
You really believe God dies so that he can forgive? That he eats, poops and cry? What kind of pathetic God is that?
According to Pagan logic, Hitler goes to Heaven..
@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT stop lying. Just read the Bible then you will no longer be a Christian..
@@El_Deen what kind of after life would rather have:
1-To be forever in the presence of God. Live in bliss and love.
2-Get laid with a bunch of virgins and be a slave to your fleshly desires for the rest of existence.
I would rather be filled by divine inspiration,but to each their own.
I’m an ex Christian who reverted to Islam along with 26 members of my relatives & friends - Alhamdullilah !
I’m Iranian and lived in Iran for 23 years in a Muslim community. I think when a person looks a certain way because of their religion, for example, having specific beard style or anything representing a religious belief, it is sign of radicalism. One of the guests said that 95 percent of Quran is talking about good things, and why we are just focusing on the other five percent; of course that we focus on the five percent part because that’s where the violence is coming from. I can talk about many other things, but it will take forever to type it here .
All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
Woww so 95 % is good talking, poor you go read it again and open your eyes , you made me laugh 😂😂😂😂
@@charlottens3409 God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
@@charlottens3409 God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
The violence comes from politics. For example sunni and shia
When someone leaves or denounced Christianity, you'll never be killed by another Christian...
In fact, we'd probably give you a hug and pray you come back.
actually, althought that might be true now, during the old testement which was commanded by the same (God), it was commanded that who ever leaves their religion is to be killed.
Yes, the same thing you guys are crying about is quite literally in the bible, but worse.
ironic isn't it? as iff christans cant be honest to their faith. i recommed you wathc the full video, the christans got put on show.
Thanksgiving might be weird. But you’ll be there.
bro apostasy killing rule is in every abrahamic religion not just islam but christainity and judaism to unlike u guys their at least honest about it
Deuteronomy 13:6-9
If your brother, your mother’s son, or your son or daughter, or the wife [a]you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul, entice you secretly, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods’ (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end), 8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him; and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him. 9 But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
@@thepublicpotato3887 Have you looked at the context in this verse? Here Moses warns the people against listening to a close relative or a dear friend who may entice them secretly to serve other gods. He then commanded that the tempter must be put to death. This needed to be done to ensure that such a wicked act is not repeated among the Israelite community. Remind you all of the isrealite comunity were at the time Gods chosen people so they knew of his existence yet still worshiped other "Gods". Also by christian standards Moses is not the most important figure in the bible because in christian perspective every human did some sort of evil doings. except Jesus Christ of Nazareth. So When you look see that verse Moses isn't speaking in general for all people. Only to the isrealites. Which indeed was wrong. Just goes to show how much evildoing humans can commit. This is why we need Jesus. He is our perfect example of a pure good human. I hope you understood
Bruh this convo was deep; so happy I am Christian and live in a Christian country.
These arteists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
These atheists need to watch this video to see the true enemy. You're lucky you're in a liberal country that allows you to think how you want. Muslims...
True and what country do you live in?
Soon U will be ruled by Islamist
What country? Cause the US is def not a Christian country lol
There is no such thing as islamophobia, Phobia is an irrational fear of something
Poor Israeli people 😢 they've been trying to tell the world for almost a century. I lost all my sympathy for PALESTINE Oct. 7
well I'm afraid of getting blown up by someone who never met me because im white and don't dress like a stone age caveman or i have gf/wife/ sister who isnt covered in clothes 😮
10000000% correct
There's nothing irrational about fearing a fascist hateful religion.
Your hate can't overpower God's will.
The anger and malice that the Muslim has in the conversation. It truly speaks volumes. I pray for him. Christianity is the greatest thing to happen to mankind since our fall in Eden.
Christianity is modern paganism
@@nunya54 no it's not
@@ramona283 Only some Christians think it's not (some sects some Christians think are as well). It was paganized after the third century. Worshipping Jesus, a Jew, a man is idolatry and worshipping God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit, Mary or saints is polytheism (i.e. paganism).
@@nunya54 We don't worship Mary or the saints. Common misconception. Catholic Christianity is not polytheistic. We believe in the One True God.
@@nunya54 define "some" Christians? All Christians would agree were not pagans
Poor guy feels threatened when he talks about killing everyone that doesn’t think like he does… what a crazy world we live in
He’s got a target on his back, if he ever travels to a Muslim country or has some Muslim in the West go after him.
This guy is proof Islam is dangerous. He's openly calling for the execution of someone who left his religion.
That actually sounds exactly like Trump worshipping fake Christians.
@@WaryOfExtremesOriginalin Nigeria Pakistan it happens every month. Recently Nigerian Christian girl was killed by
Muslim mob coz they think she disrespected pedophile Mohammed. Many translator of satanic verses book killed stabbed attacked by Muslims all over the world. Islam is dangerous political ideology and dangerous cult parading as a religion
I doubt he has an ounce of self-awareness.
There is no double standard. The reason Islam is criticized is because people are currently and actively committing atrocities on humanity today!
Very often these atrocities are committed with the connivance of the Islamic countries.
Pakistan is a glaring example.
Ohhh but the Israeli.jews aren't?? And haven't been for the last 100 years??
I wish you would hold Christian countries like UK accountability when they give away land that's not theirs to give, or when America lies about weapons of mass destruction just so they can collapse a society. The irony
Thank you!
And Christians aren't?
As an atheist, Im so glad I live in a Christian/Western country, If I didn't I would be dead just for not group thinking.
Amen to that. Thought the same 😂
No, you are happy that you live in a christian/western country IN THE 21th century. When christianity was practiced more stricytly (unlike now) you would be stoned to death probably.
You would have survived in East too because there are countries like China , India , Japan ,Korea , etc where being atheist isn't wrong . In fact there are hindu atheists in India
@@ObsidianSpearhead They say "western" but what they mean is liberal, not the geographic location. Japan, India and Korea are all liberal. China is different; in China you can be ended for NOT being atheist.
In a world controled by a false religion you are being forced to beleive and also forced to worship.
Atheist are persecuted as they proclaim it is a refuge for different beleifs.
Deceivers do not want to be questioned, because questions invoke truth..and remembering the lie is compromised by tiny little slip of the tongue.
The audacity of saying that Muslim's lives are in danger within America to the same extent that Christian's lives are in danger in muslim countries is absolutely a wildly hypocritical statement.
Muslims and Christians lives are way more in danger in America than in Muslim countries; Christians are more safe in Muslim countries too.
@Agn0sticAthe1st Really what? It seems the message you are responding to isn't there but if you're responding to the first statement, Muslims are more in danger, as are Christians as well, in Christian countries of being raped, murdered, kidnapped and assortment of other crimes as those societies are generally less safe (partly due to the fact that Christianity, in practice, has no real laws or consequences for breaking laws, after abolishing Jesus' or Moses' laws). The countries with the most murders are Christian countries. Why would Christian's lives be more in danger in Muslim countries than Muslims in Christian countries or Christians in Christian countries?? Living under Islamic law is far more safe than living under no religious law in so-called Christian countries.
And Let's not act like that group and others are doing something their religion allows; they're being evil and disobedient just like Christians who do the same (well, there's Deuteronomy y 21:10-14 is pretty questionable) and also let's not act like Christians haven't always lived in Muslim countries peacefully. They did seek refuge in Muslim lands from their own oppressive rulers as did the Jews away from the Christians (who were killing them out of existence).
One of The hardest things in life is to accept that what you believe or was taught your whole life was wrong or a lie.
Exactly. That's why I left Christianity. Lol. See how that works...
Yep. That's why I became a protestant.
@@blackseed9293l think he may mean all religions.
@@mikeholmed7029 any religion, or how your parents raised you. I’ve literally seen ppl have to accept at 30 years old that their parents are or were ignorant when they was growing up and unfortunately society had to show them that.
Yup, like liberals or democrats. That's why I became a Republican.
I am from Nigeria. People flee from Northern Nigeria to Southern Nigeria to escape the death penalty. The barbarism in Islam is something else
Do you think that the country will fracture in two parts?
@@anon2034 i don't see that happening.. Nigeria is way too diverse...
@@ulehgodstimedabest2174 I mean something like The Biafra War for example but today.
i don't think it will happen. am from Nigeria and a Biafran @@ulehgodstimedabest2174
@@anurishmodak941 Hopefully not, Islam needs to recede
I'm a christian and i've never seen this topic of conversation remain this civil. Great job by the guests and PBD you did an awesome job moderating.
👉❤to all Muslim out Please and ❤Christians out there Please this 👉👉Jesus is very clear about the law he came to fulfill all the law and to accomplished and the law will pass after Jesus fulfill it Jesus fulfill all the law on behalf of all of us so we are not under law but grace (Romans 6:14)
👉read Matthew 5:17-20
Christ Came to Fulfill the Law17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away,thisc an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished
👉👉Romans 6:14For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
15What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not!
“Certainly! Matthew 5:17-18 is a passage from the New Testament, specifically from the Gospel of Matthew. Here is the text of those verses (ESV):
"17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished."
In these verses, Jesus is speaking, and He emphasizes that He did not come to abolish the Law (which includes the Old Testament laws and teachings) but to fulfill them. He goes on to say that not even the smallest part of the Law will pass away until all is accomplished. This indicates the continuity between the Old Testament (the Law and the Prophets) and Jesus' mission as the fulfillment of that divine plan.”
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“Samuel 15:2-3 (NIV):
“This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”
These verses are part of a passage where God commands King Saul to punish the Amalekite people, including both humans and animals, for their actions against the Israelites”
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Deuteronomy 13:6-10 (NIV):
“If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and worship other gods’ (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.”
civil? Those two Jihadi's literally said they want the guy who converted away from Islam to be put to death. Thats not civil
@jllj9231 As an ex Muslim I have to say that Quran needs a very serious overhaul... it's a book a terrifying book like old Tora and Bible used to be, it needs censorship ASAP! but it will NEVER happen since UK-US and their other allies capitalize on the trrst potential of Islam to have military presence in many regions. I have a theory that the british empire is responsible for keep Muslims conservative just in case.
@@oldmedstudent1750 Yes, you probably have that on your mind as well. Are you a Jedi?.....Jidahi?.....Really?
I am also ex muslim from Iraq "kurdistan" and scared to go back there. But I am free and joyful to know that I will not go to hell as islam says almost all women will end in hell. All glory to God Almighty for Jesus Christ our great Redeemer who fills us peace and love. Let's pray for muslims to be delivered from darkness islam
Islam does not say almost all women will end in hell. Muhammad said he saw most of the inhabitants of hell were women but they're also most of the inhabitants of paradise as well.
Is Jesus not also going to throw people in hell for not accepting his free gift of salvation? If most people in the world are women, won't he be throwing mostly women into a lake of fire?
“But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you” (Matthew 5:43-44)
Timothy 2:12
“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s foes will be members of one’s own household” (Matthew 10:34-36).
Follow the religion and dont use it like a Google quotation to justify your comments. Follow completely or say you dont follow Christianity
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Jesus is not describing the sword of God's judgment, nor one of military action, or of personal violence. The item Jesus refers to here is the Greek term machairan, most often used for large knives such as those used by fisherman. The main purpose of those blades was to separate different parts of a cut of meat-this is the same term used in the book of Hebrews to depict Scripture's ability to separate truth and error (Hebrews 4:12).
In other words, Jesus' message will naturally create division; this "sword" will divide the world into those who believe in Him and those who do not. His arrival will bring great conflict as those who reject Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God will turn in hatred against those who hear and believe (1 Peter 4:3-4; John 15:18-21), including the members of one's own family.
1 Corinthians 2:15-16
The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
@@amyassyassin7909 lol do you understand this verse??
It seems to me (as a novice) the Muslim gentleman doesn’t seem to understand that the Old Testament was a precursor to complete forgiveness through the blood of the Christ.
So Moses went on to murder babies on his own according to you?No God involved?
Aka bs💩😭
Seems you don’t understand that Muslims are killed every day in the name of freedom lol
Very true 😂😂😂
The Old Testament makes up approximately 65 to 70 percent on the Christian Bible. Most Christian teachers of it do not cover the authority to take the lives of others under the Old Testament concerning apostates. They will teach how Jesus came to give eternal life by teaching love for God ( and accepting His son as savior)and man ( your neighbor). Jesus established the New Covenant by fulfilling the laws of the Old Testament and Old Testament (OT)prophesy.This was done by becoming incarnate, performing miracles described in OT prophesy , being sacrificed on the cross to forgive mankind’s sin, then being resurrected. Belief in Him, these 2 new commands he preached and His biblical teachings which include the beatitudes were to direct mankind to righteousness, salvation and eternal life after earthly death. From what I have learned Judaism and Islam do not accept Jesus as a savior to man. Islam accepts Him as a prophet. I believe, but I am not totally sure of His status in Judaism. I have heard different opinions from different folks who followed the faith.
This discussion centers mostly about writings in the OT, much of which in Judaism is the Pentateuch, which are basically Mosaic law and writing of the prophets. There are other elements of the OT, but I will leave that to the rabbis and theologians. Interestingly this conversation comes at the right time. There are many faiths on earth. These three faiths have had significant impact on worldly events and spiritual offerings. Interesting, the father of each faith is Abraham. These are considered Abrahamic faiths by many, Each faiths ancient elements include the Pentateuch as much of its moral code and law. The Christian Bible also includes the New Testament which centers around the life of Jesus , His mission on earth, His works and His apostles etc. Islam has Mohammed and his life and teachings along with updating writings and its Imam. I believe all three have Eschatology prophecy (end times)teachings which have differences. This discussion is a good one to have to many can understand the secular and spiritual aspects of each faith and how they affect daily lives and emotions. Please continue these discussions. Thanks to all willing to discuss the issues presented during the debate.
He changed the subject as soon as the former muslim turned Christian laid down the simple plain truth.
Which part?
@@Enormoussaa I think it was about if US became majority Islamic. Daniel switched it to himself being threatened.
This is a standard tactic of someone who is cornered. Either admit you are wrong or jump far away to a new spot.
Mathew 5: 43-45 You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust
Allah says in Surah Fussilat (Verse 34):
"And not equal are the good deed and the bad. Repel [evil] by that which is best. And thereupon, the one whom between you and him is enmity will be like an old friend."
The difference between the attitudes of the Christians and Islams panelists is astounding. In itself it truly depicts the difference betweeen Christians and Muslims.
To be fair, they pitted academics against extremists.
And the crazy thing is that you don't have to be a scholar to see it. It is as plain as day.
@@bradleybrunner5698these men are salafis dont try and excuse them you wahabbis and salafis are nothing but cavemen
judge a tree by the fruit it bears
That's just not true. Both of the angry Muslim men are well educated they just choose to be intolerant and see others as the problem
When you openly call for an innocent man's murder just because he has a different opinion than you, you reveal your savagery
Just to clarify it is in hadeeth not the Qur'an, people confuse the Qur'an with the hadeeth.....Qur'an is the book of Allah SWT, hadeeth is what was delivered at certain times it's not a direct commandment...
Like in leviticus right?
@@andreaguilar6685Do you not understand that Leviticus is the Old Testament? Christians follow the New Testament as that was when Jesus was introduced into the Bible. You’re confusing Catholicism which teaches both old and new Testament. Jesus came as man in order for Father God to understand the evils and sins of mankind because in Old Testament he kept destroying peoples of the earth due to their evil disobedience but then said he would send his son in flesh to become as man in order for God to understand humans weakness to sin. God is so good that without Jesus coming into human form, he could not understand because God has no evil in him to see just how or why humans did have evil within themselves. That is why Jesus said “ please Father do not judge them for they do not know what they do”.
@@msfy-q4w كل ما تتزنق اقلع.
@@Luvothrsmor22Catholicism also is about the New Testament. Isn't that why they called Christians aka "Christ-like"? The level of ignorance in these comments is heartbreaking.
I can't believe they didn't kick those guys out of the building after literally saying a member of the panel should be killed. No excuse for that.
They will say '' its what islam teaches, so its not their fault ''
It’s very eye opening to know that friendly neighbor may just be waiting to take you out….
@Belovelyava You forgot the quotation on "friendly ".
@@Belovelyavatheir religion teaches them to lie in sake of themselves and Allah. Pure Satan worshippers.
If their so willing to self expose their violent positions I suppose they should be given a megaphone.
The Muslim guy who claims to get death threats every day is the very one give a death threat on a talk show
They are blind! How can you believe in killing a human being just because they don’t believe or want to follow your religion. Clearly they don’t believe in love or peace! This is not even a debate, these people love death and oppression and us Christian we love life and liberty. ❤
God bless you. But you see all the comments of the people here ? This was not a debate. Those muslims dont understand the basics of our religion.
“Sa’b bin Jaththamah said: ‘The Prophet (ﷺ) was asked about the polytheists who are attacked at night, and their women and children are killed.’ He said: ‘They are from among them.’”
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 2839
In-book reference : Book 24, Hadith 87
English translation : Vol. 4, Book 24, Hadith 2839
Lady u shud read the old testament or about the Christian conquests in history..u are full of hate even now for polytheist..or people who don't believe in your god..example a hindu ..😂😂😂
I agree.
because they think different. to them, being ruled by a none muslim leader (awlia) is “oppression”, and that “oppression” must be changed. they also believe that the law in none muslim countries are made by man, and not by “god”. that is why countries that have muslim minorities always create trouble. islam in other words is not compatible with democracies.
I’ve never felt like any Christian in today’s society is afraid to leave the church. Not the same for Islam
I want to comment on why, when anyone talking about Islam, they talk about 5% bad instead of 95% of good? Because of what is living condition of Islam majority countries population whose are non Muslims? Second, many Muslim countries
conditions of the general Muslim population? I believe nothing wrong with the religion and problem is people who follow. Any religion, if any person or group, took to extreme level, and it will spoil that religion's holiness.
@fireheart5004 it's not 5 percent bad 🤣 bro
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If you're a Muslim making that claim then you don't really have a right to speak about the minorities in those countries.
Well I think a lot of Christians who leave the church experience some kind of fear and loss... But they aren't afraid that community will literally murder them for leaving.
@@fireheart5004 95% of Islam is not good. It is the opposite. 95% of Islam is terrible and there is maybe 5% good things. Islam is a religion that has violence, rape, mass murder, child marriage, sex slavery etc. inherent in the very core. There is no Islam without those terrible beliefs as espoused by the quran and Muhammad. That's like saying "why do those people always focus on the 5% bad stuff about Nazism, instead of the 95% of good things"?
I live in a Christian majority place,and one of my cousins decided to stop believing,but we all still love him,no hate.
time to pray for that man ^^ and have some good convos when the time comes
Yeah for real. God gaves us free will.
that means you do not believe in your scriptures
@@ahnafsayem4991no if you watch the video the Christian guy has specifically explained that the Old Testament is an old covenant and because Jesus Christ came to save us from sin by dying on the cross the New Covenant and the New Testament are the rules that are supposed to be followed. It’s pretty straightforward if you’re not looking to always argue 😂
@@Panaghhiaa with all due respect we don't have to take this guy's words as the truth. I don't think there is a verse in the new testament that tells the Christians to disregard the old testament. In fact you can find the contrary in the new testament in the following verse:
The New Testament demonstrates that this ruler is Jesus, and He said, “Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose” (Matthew 5:17, NLT).
I have a question. Why do you guys have so much trust in the words of paul who had been a persecutor to the early converts and then suddenly he miraculously had a "vision” that changed his life to the course of being an apostle. Firstly Paul has a failed prophecy which suggests that the then alive christians will be alive at the time of the 2nd coming of Jesus which surely did not happen. Also paul has distorted verses of the old testament to suit his own agenda. After everything how do you guys risk your afterlife on the sayings of a man whose truthfulness is a matter of doubt.
The worst thing you can do to a child is tell the child to memorize or recite a “Holy book,” written or inspired by God-Any book! It impedes the child's critical thinking regarding that book.
Does that apply to memorizing anything or just the Quran?
To even need to argue about the morality of murdering someone for changing their mind is just insane.
It's not insane because all morality is taught. Empathy and morality are not the same; when you are young you only have empathy but as you grow up you need to be taught morality, which supercedes your empathy, or else you will never have it or you will develop it by your own philosophies. The Christian ethic from which the American concept of human rights comes from is unique to the Christian worldview, it's not the default innate morality of mankind and in fact most of the modern American youth have no understanding of it and are being taught an oppressor/oppressed-based morality wherein the lease privileged is always the morally superior.
@@gorkyd7912 But you are mistaken, because Morality is derived from somewhere depending on your way of thinking. So, if you, as a christian lets say, say you are a moral entity, your morals come from god, which is itself an amoral entity, and in that mindset, morality is a dictate from authority.
But if you are an atheist, your morals dont come from there, the base of it was inherited from social behavior on apes and other mammals, we complemented them and enhanced them, putting emphasis on social and individual well being.
So, if your religion says it is moral to kill some one for say, adultery, I would say that adultery is immoral by itself, because it disrupts both social and individual well being, but killing some one for it is even more immoral for the same reasons.
The moral compasses are entirely different.
@@Alientcp Sorry to say you're not demonstrating any understanding at all. If you are a Christian your morals come from being raised up and educated by other Christians. They may be trying to interpret the concept of morality through an understanding of the nature of God from writings in scripture but they are not being given morality directly from God. And it's never a dictate from authority for anyone because every person has the choice to disobey any authority at any time; they weigh the consequences.
The morality that comes directly from God is empathy and conscience and everyone has these whether Christian or not.
If you are an atheist you are taught your set of morals by the people you study and admire, same as Christians but they are atheists. Morality is not inherited it is taught, so any atheist saying they inherited morality from the social behavior of apes probably has no concept of morality. An atheist who says some behavior is immoral but the punishment for it is also immoral can't really claim to know anything about social well-being. If you don't defend morality from violation then you don't support it and your society will self-destruct it will not have greater well-being.
We were put on earth by God to learn, not to repeat the same behavior again, and again. By doing that we would have stayed up on the trees. It´s time for Islam to move forward, to learn to respect the free election of people.@@gorkyd7912
Islamist never understand that they follow a disgusting medeval ideology
When I was uni in Malaysia, there were a few Pakistani students at my cafeteria seated at the table directly behind. They were talking about non-Muslim nations and how people of those nations are vile and they deserve bad treatment.
I turned around and said to them “is that what you think of me”.
They all went quiet and eventually one of them responded “yes, that’s what we have believe firmly”.
I was gobsmacked.
We invited this evil into the west and its only gonna keep growing until some sort of tipping point when Europe realizes "Oh shit, these people ALL want to rule us", and by that point most likely the US is gonna have to go in to clean up Europe's mess a third time.
It's not their fault tbh. It's the narrative that has got them. They must have grown listening to this narrative again and again. And now that they aren't in Pakistan, they probably live with/around people who share the same belief as them. That's why it is so important to spend time with people who aren't from the same background as you. You learn a lot that way. It changes your perception of the world. Hopefully these guys learn this someday. Or else they will end up teaching the same narrative to their children and they'll grow up to become the same as their fathers.
@@architbhagat- well said! Agree 100%
in our (western) countries, we don't do shit that the porn industrie controls the teens and all the people, we don't do shit that the media, the music brainwashes our kids to be hedonistic animals. We brainwash whole society to think of us "liberal and free" and better than all the people who still live in villages in africa or middle east. And you think they are bad for thinking our countries deserve bad?
be so real with yourself right now most non muslim nations specifically the west have no morals left yall literally have girls doing onlyfans
I am an ex Muslim. I haven’t seen my parents or siblings in 27 years as l don’t trust them. I am female and l am so glad to have left a false pagan religion. I became a Christian two decades ago, and l love Jesus. I am save by the blood of Christ and l know how much he loves me. I don’t care that my family has rejected me, as l know that only Jesus can save me, and the love l feel from God.
I'm glad that you left. This is finally the first time I see a female testimony that was a muslim but then converted to Christianity and Im glad for you. Because you left a male-supremacist system that oppresses Women.
Im sad that happened with your family, but im glad Jesus touched your heart and blessed you. “Let not your heart be troubled” Jesus is with you and all of us
May Allah swt guide you back to the truth. La ilaha illallah! There is only one God. That’s the one true God that Jesus prayed to
@@misszuleika Jesus never worshipped anything, he just prayed to the father for our sins and taught us how to pray to Jesus. u need Jesus bro.
@@misszuleika😂😂
5 minutes in and you can clearly see who is calmer by answering
God is the epitome of Holiness because He is sinlessly perfect, A sinner (liar, sexually immoral, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, thief etc) cannot be in the presence of God or else he will be utterly consumed therefore repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus as your Lord and Saviour to go to Heaven.
i converted to islam because it is the truth
@@TomasSchmidt00 Good luck to you 😂
@@TomasSchmidt00 Jesus is exclusive John 14: 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. “; right here Jesus called every religion a lie He is the truth. Believe what you want but the fact of the matter is humans are sinners in need of the saviour. Jesus did not only die on the Cross, but He also rose again from the dead. This is huge and you ought to listen to Him today.
@@MrZach012 In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
When Christians have people leave the faith, we start praying harder for them. ❤
Because Christians don't follow Jesus who followed laws of killing apostates.
😂😂😂😂 better pray for ur self
@@Free_Palastine_01 I do pray for myself, thanks. Just like I pray for others.
no you dont, you dont even notice or pray, u keep eating bacon the next morning and drinking beer
@@alymohammed681Muslim Detected⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️hide all 9yo childs named Aisha
Brother casually admits he would kill a man for changing religions and then plays the victim because his religion is targeted with violence…
Bananas.
LOL! Statistically, Christians were the most persecuted religious people in history... Muslims playing the victim card is hilarious...
Very Ridiculous!!!, he didn't even answer the question of Muslim becoming the majority in USA...
just what happens when humans try creating their own religion of relationship, there’s always holes and questions. With God He’s always right.
That's what Islam calls Taqiyya. It permits deceit and plays victim. Thats why the radical left is in bed with Islam because victimhood mentality is one of their core techniques.
@@concernedcitizen3254 Absolutely!
I’m so thankful that I was born in a Christian family, and in the United States. Don’t take it for granted. Imagine being born in an Islamic country where you will be killed for leaving Islam. Don’t take your freedom for granted.
Amen praise God
If the USA becomes majority Muslim... 'God' help the world 😢
I think you're right, it makes me sad/angry looking at many of the American youth of today that don't know how lucky they are being American with religious freedom... I mean all countries have flaws but a Christian raised USA has contributed lots of good to the world!
Please then pray for our brothers and sisters in muslims countries and don't forget about yourself.
mohammed was the messenger of Hubal(lah) also know as allah and huballah. Mohammed message was the everyone should bow down and worhsip the Kabaa temple and moon rock in the kabaa that belong to huballah the pagan god. That huballah had talked to mohammed to in a dream telling mohammed he was the one true god not Jesus. The Kabaa was a small temple that had various pagan god statues and Huballah was the top pagan god, the name hubal mean god of gods and allah means king of gods. Even back than Huballah was considered the top true god of the Meccan people in Saudia Arabia and even to mohammed. Mohammeds father and granddad owned the statue of Huballah that was in the center of the Kabaa and the moon rock belonged to huballah and it was passed down to mohammed whose mission was to say that Huballah was the true god and that he mohammed was the messenger of Huballah. The moon and star the muslims use was used to represent Huballah the moon God and the black moon rock in the Kabaa the muslims fall down and worship to belonged to Huballah the moon God.
@@KINGandWINNER Thank you very much for bringing some briefly information like this of previous faiths of the islam religion, which origins are very obscure.
I remember back in 2011 I think, I was intrigued to read a book in my native language I cannot exactly remember the title, but it sounds something like: "The prophetical signs of the end of times". It must have been translated from English. It wasn't very thick, about 200 pages but the information presented in the book was quite interesting, even if I wasn't totally agree with some things. I can remember it was largely exposing in its subject the role of Vatican and its revelations at Fatima. On the other hand it was a little about the islam and its origins and the author of the book criticized it by saying that muslims must ask themselves if they are honest, how islam worship the true God, if Mecca and Medina was built on the ruins of previous notorious, most important pagan temples of that times? And it was mentioned in the book the name of that previous pagan temples but I cannot remember. If you consider you can help me somehow to remember, you're wellcomed.
a orthodox saint once said "God has nobility, he doesn't force anyone, but devil hasn't , he wants to force everyone , because that's his nature."
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
God bless that man who converted to Christianity ❤
He exposed to whole islam problem
No, not so fast! These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better:
1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed?
2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life.
3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them?
4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD.
5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it.
Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worshiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
Congrats, for every Muslim who converted to Christianity, 1000 Christians convert to Islam 😂
I think that is pretty good exchange rate for Muslims 😂😂😂
@@tommybond8630 Only a son of the Devil like you will laugh about the Deception and Destruction of yourself and the rest of you.
@@tommybond8630hahaha u mean force to convert to Islam or misguided and after a short time they leave with a huge sigh of relief
@@tommybond8630lol you don’t convert that many people Muslims have always been dishonest. It is what they teach you in the Quran, that you can lie to achieve your goals… it’s called Taqiya. Imagine your holy book teaching you that it’s okay to lie to get what you want. That’s why Muslims are dishonest! Taqiya : concealment of one's thoughts, feelings, or character; pretence for a religious goal … in this case conversion.
Old testament: living under laws
New testament: living under grace
Are they both from God or not?
@@nunya54 Yes
@@ritagitau-ck9it Is that God Jesus?
If so, when God, Jesus, said in the Old Testament to kill disobedient children, to burn daughters alive, to stone adulterers, was that law coming from him or not?
@@nunya54you're getting it wrong
Jesus is God in flesh that is the word of God which is God (John 1:1)
God never said all this, those who burned their children were those of the Abomination of the Amorites and because of this God told his people to utterly destroy them..
The church on the long run has had bad days and the church traditions is so wrong that even Christ criticized the Jewish laws, because they were getting it wrong.
If you choose to follow the law then you need to bear the consequences the Israelites choose to follow God and they need to do it all whose heartedly the Israelites were stiff necked people even God wanted to destroy them if not that Moses pleaded.
Christ's sacrifice came and the law was abolished cos even Our creator said an age will come when men will seek knowledge times have changed and human disposition has changed too even if God hasn't Changed.
The whole message is that of love , humanity is love.
Religion should not be a reason to kill.
God told the Israelites to kill those who worship idols but with repentance it's abolished,the wages of sin is death this is in the new testament,but Christ redeems us so we don't have to die.
Even in the old testament when you sin,you sacrifice animals for your redemption so it's not a complicated issue.
@@awetoyosi No New Testament scholar believes John is authentic. It's a Johannie literary developed product. They don't consider it a historical source because it is late, highly developed gospel. It is a developed rather than an original gospel. Even conservative Christian scholars no longer believe that Jesus actually said the words attributed to him in John. John presents a radically different presentation of the life and ministry of Jesus. All the great I Am Sayings are only in John. They're only found in John. All the amazing, weighty statements are only in John. What did he say about himself, the only places he describes himself as a divine being is only in the gospel of John? Doesn't make sense. If it's true that Jesus was going around saying it to his disciples and people, how is it that three of our gospels don't mention it or their sources q, l and m? It should be an important thing to mention if he actually did but they don't say it. Most critical scholars suspect this is a view that develops later and is not historically what Jesus is saying. The author is putting words on the lips of Jesus.
The gospels were not held in high regard by the early Christians, They were not verbally exact and none was authoritative (John Bartman). They were not originally scripture. They became scripture. Only over time did collections even out and come to be see as two components on an equal level. They didn't hold those manuscripts to be exact revelation or divine like the Torah. If you followed the eyewitnesses to Jesus' life, you would not believe the New Testament was the word of God because early Christians did not believe that. No one in the first century had the New Testament as a compiled work (A History of the Bible. The Book and Its Faiths, John Barton). It doesn't reflect the beliefs of the early Christians who held Jesus as a prophet for three centuries.
My Grandfather killed his own daughter (my aunt) and got away with it because of the Islamic Sharia law. She (age 15) had to marry someone that she didn´t love and when her husband(around 30) was sentenced for life in Jail for killing another person , she reconnected with her first love from her youth and my grandfather found out about it and she was beaten half dead and burried alive. I was born in Iran but thank to Jesus I came to Germany as a child and I can tell you that ISLAM as a relligion and Idiologie is the pure EVIL ...
Thanks for speaking up.
that's the saddest part of following religion more than human values. In Islam there is not much of scope to debate it. whatever is written is the final truth. that's it
Mein herzlichstes Beileid 💔 Hoffentlich dürfen wir hier noch etwas länger in Sicherheit leben, angesichts der Gefahr, die wir nun auf deutschen Straßen erleben 😢
Unfortunately it's getting more dangerous even in Germany.....
@@mzion4686what do you mean? My daughter has to go there in the spring with the military and wants to go see some places. I lived in Stuttgart in the early 70s and it wasn't bad that I can recall
Please pardon my ignorance, but what was she supposed to do? With no husband to support her, how was she supposed to survive?
to rebuttal his argument at 9:25:
Deuteronomy 13:6 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend SECRETLY ENTICES you, saying, 'Let us go and worship other gods...'"
God is commanding Israel to nip at the bud immediately anyone who comes with malicious intent to entice THEM to come with them and worship foreign gods and abandon and renounce YHWH. God is not saying if someone among them makes the personal decision to walk away from worshiping Him that they should kill them for their rejection of YHWH. In fact, time and time again Israel worshiped many other gods and they did receive judgement from God but you never saw them slaughtering one another for their unbelief. God has always desired from the beginning that His people would freely love Him and choose Him and just as Paul says in 1 Corinthians 2:4 "My speech and my preaching were not with ENTICING words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power" it is God's heart that people would not only hear the Good News of Jesus but experience it and that THAT alone would cause them to come to Him. Not out of fear that if they don't, they will be murdered.
Any capital punishment according to the Torah would require two witnesses and a court to provide guilt anyway.
Its when you are won over by the love of Jesus is when you understand what true love means❤
i call BS
@@blixerie9317 Bloody Sensational?
Please please just 🙏 come to Jesus come to Islam ☪️ Jesus a beloved prophet of Islam ☪️
But Jesus is Muslim😅 Doesn’t he said he pray by putting his head on ground like Muslim does? Did you read Bible?😂
@@mohiruddin8207 there's no jesus in Quran, fool. only isa, that guy whom no one knows the location of his birth, when was he born, how long did he live... isa is a character made up from the imagination of Arabs to deceive people from coming to the True Messiah YESHUA
Brother Rachid really nailed it when he says "even Jesus does not kill adulterer woman in New Testament, giving example that Old Testament murderous law is replaced with forgiveness"
It wasn't replaced. It was fufilled when Jesus died. God's wrath was taken out on Jesus. Those laws still applied which He took the punishment for. The point to that was, nobody is righteous TO kill someone for their sins, as we ALL have sin. Nobody has the ability to kill ANYONE for sinning. We are all unrighteous made righteous through Jesus' blood.
That story is not authentic it was added as a good example
God sent a messiah to save us from the consequences of our sins...death!
1 Corinthians 15:55-57
King James Version
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
@@virk734you either made that up or got it from a “source” that’s not a source.
These pseudo-Christians are doing what they are known to do - betraying Christ with their lies! Noticed how the panel comprises of Muslims only - whether ex or y? And notice, how the conclusion was drawn in collective agreement and undeniably taking on the hue of political nature and with a common enemy apparently?!! Draw your own conclusions from here on...and for Heaven's sake, Christians STOP trusting Muslims at all. Read the following and understand better:
1. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend that which Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated - both in Word & Deed?
2. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend Mosaic laws when Christ has Himself refuted, rebuked and repudiated it by replacing it with Grace, Truth and surpassing Righteousness of God which was since the very beginning, even before mankind were created? To which, all genuinely faithful servants or prophets of God pointed to, constantly reminding the peoples to retrace their steps back to the crossroads, where the Gospel (God-spelt) and Manspel (man-spelt) diverge, that they may seek out the Ancient Path which leads to Righteousness & Life.
3. Why do these Christians feel obliged to defend the wolves who masquerade as sheep in their midst? It isn't as if Christ hadn't been faithful to forewarn the world of them?
4. Why do these Christians on the other hand FAIL TO feel obliged to show how Moses had ended up lifting up & upholding the Serpent (symbolic allusion to the Devil) instead of God, and how he had replaced the Power of God's Word with his own rebellious spirit of aggression - thus forfeiting his Calling & Election to lead the people into Canaan? Thus also exposing how Islam follows the same path of rebellion, even upholding Satan as 'God', as was espoused by not just Moses but going all the way back to their so-called 'first prophet' Adam who is in fact the one to set the ball rolling by CHOOSING DEATH OVER LIFE IN SPITE OF FAITHFUL FOREWARNINGS FROM GOD.
5. Lastly, and most importantly, why do these Christians FAIL TO feel obliged to make it known loud & clear that God has clearly not entrusted Judgement to man, that it is NOT PERMITTED to men to take God's Judgement in their own hands? The coming Judgement of God is a Reality waiting to take place at its Appointed Time, and Christ has clearly exhorted and taught to all who will heed Him to patiently & prayerfully wait for it.
Islam is the most deplorable of all manspels, next to Catholicism. One the pretentious Satan worsiper, conveniently forgetting Satan is also but ONE. The other openly profaning the holy Name of God by taking His Name in vain and adding the Same in a vain bid to validate themselves, even as they add It to their collection of pagan deities comprising of mortal men & women, going as far as to relegate the Lord as a mere man like them to justify their exaltation of them on par with Him.
This ex Muslim man speaks the honest truth. "HONOR KILLINGS" really are a standard recognized practice in all Muslim countries at times. Most muslim countries have few or even no laws against "honor killings", because tragically the general populace supporrs that kind of practice. Honor killings have even been done in non-muslim countries, such as Canada, Brazil, the U.S. and even Japan. A prime example happened here in the U.S about ten years ago. A taxicab driver had two beautiful well behaved daughters. He became more and more incensed, and then enraged, because in his view they were becoming gradually ever more "westernized" and he believed that was sinning against Islam's teachings. He murdered both of them , then fled to the protection of other muslims that sympathized with that belief. After a number of years he was finally discovered hiding with his brother. He was arrested for the murders Amnesty International, and the U.N. both say that around 5,000 honor killings, mostly of women, happen every year. And the trend is gradually rising. The people that do the murders are almost always family members, typically a father or brother. Let's ask ourselves, .. is that what a true religion would condone and actually promote ?!?
there are some good points against islam, but honor killings is not one, its a cultural thing and not backed up by the religion
No, it's backed up by the religion. There's lot of verse in Quran say things like that and ur stupid muhammad prophet the one who do that. I'm from Indonesia, people can get killed by stupid muslim just cause they mocked stupid muslim prophet, not only that the punishment for religion mockery is apply only for non-muslim. Example there's a case of Christian debate about Muhammad behavior and callout muhammad is a pedophiles, which this argument is true anyway and he get jail time for 10 years, even before get sentence he was planned to be killed, luckily this was discovered before he even died, last time we heard this guy couldn't walk anymore. The perpetrator of this act is a police officer and has never been detained until now. and as usual, stupid Muslims praised his actions. on the other hand there's muslim mocking Christian get jail time for only 3 month and there's a lot of case that never get to court. if muslim do that, the whole country suddenly deaf.
@@bluelightmoon777watch the video bro it's clearly stated and admitted
@@princejohn1358 you only get the death penalty when you cheat on your spouse
@@bluelightmoon777the Quran explicitly calls for nonbelievers to be killed. It also states that a woman's worth is less than that of a man's. Their "prophet" Muhammad, if he existed, forced himself upon a literal child and kept sex slaves. So, this violent mysogyny is intertwined with Islam.
That complete dodge and deflection at 17:44 was EPIC. A thing of beauty! If you can't answer the question ... just answer another one that no one asked.
"I am in danger because I want non-believers to be murdered".
- Daniel, the good Muslim
The Christians in the video reject their own scripture and its rulings while claiming to be Christians. this is called apostasy in Christianity. How can they sit there and deny the words of God and say they have come with something better than it and say that his rulings are outdated/not needed.
@@shadowstorm5261 that's largely old testament, jesus came down you idiot. What did he say to the women who comitted adultery? He said do not stone her, SPARE her. Jesus does not believe in such punishments, and he is him. That was revolutionary at the time and in fact when he said that the jewish leaders(pharises) at the time were appalled and questioned jesus. Islam is a joke, unlike the bible, it allows for child marriage at the age of 6. and sex at the age of 9 or 10. That's sick, and muslims by and large believe this too and praise Muhammed for marrying aisha at age 6 and penetrating her at age 9.
@@shadowstorm5261 It's called freedom. You should try it. Feels good and be able to live a peaceful life without someone wanting to kill you cause you don't agree with them.
Your referring Judaism not Chirstianity brother. Don't get them confused.
@shadowstorm5261 when Jesus came, He said the old will pass away, meaning the old testament and He replaced it with the New Testament....thus, the Christians in this video were not going against the Bible
I’m a Ex-Muslim that found Jesus. The greatest decision I’ve made for myself. I still have a lot of respect and love for my Muslim brothers and sisters because the ones I’ve met and crossed paths with, were genuine people.
I'm a Muslim and I also found Jesus and many other great prophets peace be upon them all
@@2006amran
Jesus and Prophet not exist in Islam, those all are Jews.
The false stories in Islamic teachings are as false as any claim in Islam.
95% of Islamic teachings about worshiping god with 100% imitating and following whatever Muhammad said and did, a pedophile, cheater, fornicator, rapist, robber, murderer and all the barbarity that humans can think of.
In the context of praising God, you can see that every terrorist will shout ALLAHUAKBAR, kill and behead people, rob, rape as has just been demonstrated by HAMAS where Muslims all over the world are praising God by shouting ALLAHUAKBAR.
Islam is a disgusting religion that teaches every Muslim to be a terrorist and racist and they are praising god... yes, the god of Islam is the real DEVIL.
Amen hallelu Yah! 😊 Jesus is the way the truth and the LIFE ❤ God bless all who seek the truth with every inch of their soul and understands it when they see it! Peace and mercy on you, in Jesus name, Amen ✝️🙏
They are no longer your brothers ,dont know where you arrive at this mindset,it is not scriptural.
And if you find yourself back in a Muslim country ,you WILL be murdered as an apostate.
I was a Christian who became a Muslim, Alhamdulilah. Does this mean you believe in the trinity now and not Tawheed?
16:17 this brother said it all. I truly felt his pain and sadness. This is the gospel. I don't understand why these muslims think they understand what Christianity is because they read some old testament books.
Exactly
@@ngozinwankwo5051they try to find any passage that can possibly relate or even agree with theirs , but then when the Bible disagrees with them , they say the Bible is corrupted 😂
Context is everything.
In the First Testament (as Scot McKnight likes to call the Hebrew scriptures), YHWH was claiming both the land as sacred space and the Israelite people as a nation of priests to the Nations to live in His land. That's why when the Israelites abandoned YHWH and were doing evil things including child sacrifice, YHWH kicked them out of His sacred space to Assyria and Babylon as a way to clean out sacred space. This was temporary.
The Christian might extend that to why the remaining people of the tribe of Judah were temporarily kicked out again after Babylon in 70 AD until 1948 after rejecting Jesus as YHWH's promised suffering servant and representative to accomplish what Israel was supposed to accomplish (e.g. Jesus' 40 days in the wilderness success was representative of Israel's 40 years in the wilderness failures, etc...). Could it happen again? I hope not... but are they being a nation of priests to the world? Destruction of the nation would mess with all the Dispensational interpretations of Biblical eschatology. I have a different interpretation framework so it's not inconceivable to me that God could do this again without messing up the framework.
Galatians 2:21 NIV
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”
I am so happy he finally said Jesus saved us from the laws of the old testament as far as killings
If Jesus is God, he wrote those laws which one has to say are just if they're from God/Jesus.
@@nunya54 God can rewrite his laws, as he did on the cross. clearly the old law was not working so God has created a new law that works for him and sorts out the sheeps from the goats
Except this goes against what most Christians say that God cannot change@@williesreserve7475 God did change right? He changed his laws, became Jesus? coming to earth because he couldn't understand humans any other way and killed himself to pay the price he himself set. Why does God need the blood sacrifice of himself to forgive sins?
@@nunya54 the cost of sin is death and Jesus sacrlflced himseIf in our place out of Love and grace but he rose in the 3rd day and lives forever..
@@williesreserve7475 If Jesus is God, he set the cost and then paid the price himself?
This does not make sense. God cannot die and this would make God an unjust, not loving God. God can do anything which means He can also forgive sins. If this is true, that means God required a blood sacrifice which means he's not loving. He wanted an innocent person to die for things he did not do. Who believes that about God?
Good thing there is no evidence this is true. The first followers of Jesus during that time did not believe Jesus died. The people that actually saw Jesus did not believe that. James, the disciples, the early sects of Christianity, all closest to him in time, did not believe he died. It was common knowledge in the first century that he did not. It's not true. There's much evidence against it. It was another made up story of the gospel writers.
I am a former Muslim too I converted to Christianity.
It’s love, peace and unity.
Even tho I suffered and still suffering from where I was living, society, relatives and even my own family until today while I live in the USA and I’m still suffering because according to their faith and Islam I’m ( kafer) which described in Quran that I should be prosecuted! Meanwhile I’m sad because the US government is issuing visa, green Card and citizenship to these radical islamists who are on the streets and protesting against US and Israel.
They ruined the asylum process, most of these people not in danger in anyways while when they get here they lie over lie that we are in danger back in their country the only reason they are here is because their countries doesn’t have good economy so they get here they get rich, they buy houses, they get citizenship, they send money back to their country, they eve go and visit the country they came in after getting Green Card and citizenship and they advertise Islam, they want to change the society and communities and no one is getting their way!
While those who are really in danger because of their ideology and believe they are living a life where you can’t have status, no work authorization, no place to live, no support from NGO’s and unfortunately this is the reality of today so far in USA.
May Christ guide and protect you.
Okay as a Muslim I’m wishing you the best of luck in your next life but don’t consider all Muslims being like that. Nowadays we tend to believe that it’s Allah (God) who’s going to judge you. I’m half American half Djiboutian. I do have Christian Djiboutians friends back home and they live in a 99% muslim country and it doesn’t harm them. I will still make dua for you personally and wish for you to come back to Islam someday, but not wishing you harm as well.
Take a chill pill!
And you forgot to tell us that your dad was Imam in Mosque😂
Lol...bullshit
If you are an ex Muslim then why keep the name Mohammad, I mean it doesn't get more Muslim than the name Mohammad
I love being a Christ follower. I love everything about Christinity. God is not interested in religion but in a relationship. My Muslim family is so lost . They need Jesus. I will never give up praying for them.
Why would god in his infinity perfection be “interested” in relationship. He’s whole and doesn’t need anything 😅 you got it all wrong maam
Why didn’t Jesus show up and what is Jesus waiting for? Jesus actually is a slave of a God and he’s a messenger. He will never do anything to you or respond to your messages as long as God didn’t give him the order.
No I don't. Every knee will bow down and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is LORD. You will see
bla bla bla nobody cares about fake person Gay Jesus
@@charlenejulius8501Amen sister in Christ. Don't pay attention to fools, they will bow down to a true living God.
JESUS IS LORD
#JESUSOVERMUHAMMAD
“Don't Tread on Me” is a phrase that conveys a message of independence, defiance against oppression, and the right to self-determination
So scarry for someone to tell you in the face you be killed. 😢
لانه دين اجرام، سبي، نهب، عبودية ، اغتصاب
Please, most muslim countries apply this to ex muslim haters, especially when they gain some kind of credit for spreading very false information.
This is real islam
@@nooralgroonand you support such stupidity?
but it's ok because they said it politely!
It's crazy how Muslims see this debate and think the Christians lost.
They are lost and did lose. They can never win since they literally have no evidence to support their religion. They even seem confused that just because they don't follow their scripture doesn't mean they don't believe in it. And if they don't believe in it, then why are they even Christian and what do they base their beliefs upon? They either don't know their religion or scripture or they're being hypocritical though it's hard to blame them; Christianity is very illogical and hypocritical.
As a muslim, those 2 extremist should be put in jail or deported
@@reiza9255 very clearly you are a muslim 🤣 yeah the Muslims won massively showing your hypocrisy
not sure weather i should call this gaslighting or brain farting bro
I hope we watching the same video listen carefully to their words
These 2 Christians have no back bone atleast these 2 brothers stood their ground
The christians oh no we also get threats and Muslims are more uncontrollable so yea.
Oh no we don't do old testament
No back bone
They both just said they would kill him in a heartbeat, and he wonders why they’re on a watchlist…I’m done☠️ 19:37
Hey but it’s a religion of peace…
Forest for the Trees
??????
No one said that
In Islam you could not apply the law in your hand
Only rulers or government
tell that to the nutjobs in Pakistan oppressing and killing Christians mate; all well and good in theory until you get some crazed mob on your door step@@hassanbadrek2726
@@hassanbadrek2726 Tell Salman Rushdie.
Having to repeat your religion is peaceful means it is not peaceful.
Islam does not mean peaceful like some say but rather it PRODUCES peace when practiced. It's often repeated because many people, particularly now with seeing Islam grow, are often spreading misinformation or just ignorant about the religion and countries that rule by it (like saying they're war-torn, violent countries which is very false). The propaganda and misinformation about Islam only grows, so, yes, people will continue to repeat it to correct the misinformation or lies people spread about it.
i converted to islam because it is the truth
@@TomasSchmidt00 based on what evidence exactly? Other than Islam claiming itself to be true.
Without the death penalty for leaving Islam it would have faded away long ago.
As it rightfully should.
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims...
Islam and Christianity are damn near cousins they both say the same thing
@@danielbarry5547
In the Quran, Jesus is taken to heaven, but no record says mohammd is in heaven, not even the Quran.
There are 26 different arabic versions of quran( u can google it), which one is real? Mohammd has disobeyed all commandments of God, which means he disobeyed God himself. Mohammd has killed, raped, did child marriage, married his sons wife, owned sex slaves and so on. Mohammd drastically died from poison, a very normal human. Even God didn't warn him and mohammd can't predict.
Jesus never did any sin. Like Jesus said he is next to his father in Heaven.
@@danielbarry5547, No they don't say the same thing at all. Infact, Islam says the opposite of Christianity. Plus, Islam fundamentally and vehemently denies the Incarnation, the Trinity, the Crucifixion and Resurrection, which sets the bench mark for Christianity. So, how are they the same thing? Islam hasn't got a problem with child brides, chopping people limbs off in the opposite direction if anyone steals anything, slavery, taken another man's wife etc etc, Christianity opposes such practices. How are they saying the same thing?
Islam has apostasy laws where if someone leaves Islam, under Shariah Law, they would be put to death, there is also the killing of homosexuals etc. Christianity opposes such practice. How are the saying the samething? If a woman has affairs outside her marriage (which she often doesn't bc her husband wanted to get rid of her), she would be put to death by stoning. When a large group of men wanted to stone Mary Magdaline, Jesus stepped in and stopped it by telling them those without sin cast the first stone. Jesus then told her to go and sin no more. How are they the same? There are so many examples, but I've given you a few why they're not the same as they're in direct opposition to one another!
Islam took the Torah aka Old Testament and the New Testament and between Muhammad and Allah they both butchered and twisted the characters and themes of the bible that its almost become unrecognisable. That's called plagiarism and theft. As I said at the top, they're not at all the same.
In the Northern part of Nigeria where it is mostly dominated by Muslims. Thousands of honest Christians have died due just being Christians in peace. It’s so sad to think that it was seen as a crime of being themselves and living to what they believe in.
thats very upsetting, whats even more upsetting is that these people who r representing islam. It is against the religion to kill people for simply being a different religion or have a different belief system. People like those damage the image and name of islam.
There is no law in Islam that calls for killing innocent people or Christians.
@@nunya54Yea but sadly, this is what’s happening currently in Nigeria
@@nunya54 if they walk away from islam or disrespect islam yes there is
@@nunya54, unfortunately Boko Haram has free reign on murdering Christians. Teenage Christian girls are continuously being kidnapped and forced into marriage to Muslim men. If they resist, they are killed. Christian children in Egypt are continuously being kidnapped by Muslims and being raised as such. This is why so many Christian parents have crosses tattooed on their child’s arm to remind them that they are Christians.
I am so thankful to God for being born into a Christian family in a Christian country.
There is no Christian countries anymore they are all on their way to becoming Islamic lol
America ain’t a Christian country
so what is your point you stay your place and we stay our place
Amen
@@pishro09the problem is you want your way of life on others by force. Thats ridiculous.
I am a Muslim, and what I have learned is the importance of peace and empathy towards our fellow humans. I have been taught never to harm anyone, regardless of the situation. I will not harm any human or animal, even if someone tries to kill me, because I believe that I cannot give life, and therefore, I have no right to take a life.
As the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Whoever kills a soul unjustly, it is as if he has killed all of humanity." (Sahih Muslim). This teaches us the sacredness of life and the importance of compassion and restraint in all circumstances.
While it is true that war and violence were permitted in some cases during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), this was due to the specific context of his time, when the early Muslim community was under threat and needed to defend itself. However, Islam always emphasizes the importance of choosing the peaceful path whenever possible. We are instructed to seek peace and reconciliation, and to resolve conflicts through dialogue and understanding, even in the face of adversity.
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This truly is valuetainment. How does he bring all these people together? It’s amazing.
yes, just like "Europa the last battle"
Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.
There is no bridge to bring the Muslims and the Christians together. The Muslims' side agreed that apostate should be killed. The Christians disagreed. The Muslims said, you are not following the Old Testament command to kill apostate. The Christian asked the Muslim, you are an apostate. Should I kill you? The Muslim answered, yes. 😅
@@bluesky45299 Yo bro you seem like you know a lot about religion. May I ask why islam denies the crucification of Jesus. Because from what I've heard of religious and secular sources it seems to be a historical fact. Btw I'm just curious this question isn't to trigger anyone.
@@User47HD Because the Qur’an talked about that and said that he was not crucified
What I see from the 2 Muslim brothers is the classic counter argument, which is not addressing questions directly but rather deflecting and redirecting the argument to try to create a false equivalence.
It's not a false equivalence. If Christians claim the Old Testament is from God and the Word of God, then to be critical of Islam for the same laws would be critical of their own God.
Because it is the Bible does not mean it is prescriptive
Yes, it is the word of God, but also God in flesh has fulfilled that law 2000 years ago.
Hence that law is descriptive and prescriptive in its historical environment and context but not in the new covenant brought by Jesus Christ who fulfilled and was innocently put to death by the law
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state.
In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system.
DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS
Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted.
DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS ,
AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY
THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON ,
WITH UR LOGIC
TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA)
FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@@nunya54 It is when Christ came back and corrected the old laws. Thats the difference your using a whatabout but Christ already dissavowed the thing your whatabouting. It proved Christ corrects the ild testament and by effect your viewpoint as well.
@@nunya54 That is wrong. The Old Testament is the story of the Lord's chosen people. The laws were revealed in Exodus for Moses and his Israelites as they travelled to the land of Canaan. Levitical laws are for the tribe of Levi, the priests. Leviticus are laws that the priests follow and mete out. Deuteronomy were rules that the Israelites followed as they travelled through Zin. Once you get to Joshua, you see how the nation of God's chosen people rises and falls and break their covenant. The New Testament is the story of Christ and his followers, and how they establish the way for people to be saved from sin. The previous laws had not applied for ages because their era came, rose, and fell into corruption.
Im just so happy to be a Born Again Christian right now. I thank God for it.
Born again. Means you where Christian but born as a new Christian again. Is that correct? 😁
@CrislanieDelosReyes Best decision ever. May God bless you! John 3:16 the door of Salvation.
@@easydayvlog1743 hmm.. a Christian with a new heart, perspective, principles.. turning away from the old me and being born in faith through Jesus. Yes, if this is what you meant c:
@@Bible-Since1500BC True. The best thing that ever happened to me is Jesus
@@CrislanieDelosReyes Here in this world under the Sun anything happen to you is by your own choice. With your choice it shows how good is your heart.
Muslims (Islam) claim that Muhammad is the last prophet and he was given a book called Quran. But if you ask them question who was they witness of all this? They become very angry and aggressive.
If you read the Bible, Moses introduced God to Israel and God Himself showed up by descending from Heaven on top of the Mount of Sinai with flame of fire when He gave them 10 commandments. More than 1 500 000 of people of Israel witnessed that event.
When the Lord Jesus Christ came He told His disciples that you are my witnesses. When He came back to life after death more than 500 people saw Him. This truth is indisputable. That makes the Bible the only trustworthy source of belief.
Any claim of belief that provides no evidence of witness at least 2, it's self defeated.
There are many sources in Arab culture that shows that Allah is a Pagan god meaning a demon deceiver, a liar and murderer. That's why you can see anything in Quran is about killing and violence.
Haven't you ever asked yourself a question why all terrorists are Muslims? Because Islam is a satanic sect.
The devil was very happy to create Islam because no demon can match Islam when comes to evil on this planet.
They are missing two points here…
They are missing that there was a progressive revelation of God through prophets throughout Old Testament history. The true nature of God is then finally revealed in Christ. (He rebukes his disciples for wanting to call down fire on people just like Elijah did)
The other thing that they are missing is that there was no other way to deal with sin or inherited demons before the death of Christ and total defeat of sin.
I’m Christian, but this was an incredible debate. Thank you Valuetainment.
How so?
This seems a typical intra-religious argument where a conservative islamicist tried to equivocate the barbarism practiced today by creating straw-men arguments and reaching back in antiquity to laws which haven't been sanctioned in millennia.
If you think that's a debate, wait till you hear an actual debate.
@@CERBERUS300ify nah it was a debate with two anti-muslim dumbasses though lmao
What part of "we think you deserve to die because of your apostasy" is incredible to you, I'm baffled at ya'll. Chirtians as an exmuslim atheist like what are you trying to do??
Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they are.@@negaro9113
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Matthew 7:21
I'm so jealous of people born into Christian families and countries. I was born and raised Muslim, then realized Islam is not true later in life. I've lost so many people because of this decision.
If they persecute you, remember that they persecuted Jesus first. You’re in good company. Stay strong.
What a true blessing 🙌 God was able to work within you and lift the veil. Walk in peace for Jesus loves you.
You’re not alone xx 😘 we got u
Luke 14:25-27 '25 Many people were traveling with Jesus. He said to them, 26 “If you come to me but will not leave your family, you cannot be my follower. You must love me more than your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, and sisters-even more than your own life! 27 Whoever will not carry the cross that is given to them when they follow me cannot be my follower.'
All these christians who are enjoying in comments should watch the whole debate and realise that their own scripture bible has worst than this:
Deuteronomy 13:->
"If your brother, the son of your mother, your son or your daughter, the wife [c]of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, ‘Let us go and serve other gods,’ which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, 7 of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, 8 you shall not [d]consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him; 9 but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. 10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. 11 So all Israel shall hear and fear, and not again do such wickedness as this among you."
and All these liberals,Athiests or people of other rekigions who are saying that if islam is so peaceful then why punishment of killling. I have some questions for you , will you be killed you go against the Government of a country or against the constitution of the country or you are found guilty of treason ? The answer is yes, so why do you guys have no problem in that law but have a problem against this Law of Islam. Why these double standards ?Similary The reason you will be killed is because you are going against the Governmen.
And remember guys A person will be killed only if he openly goes and makes it public so if you keep it within yourself noone will know it and you will be living your life then .Only when he makes it public there are consequences still after that, He will be given three chances to come back , his doubts will be clarified. But if he persists then yes he will be killed.
The calmness of the left side speaks volumes
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 Why is the human sacrifice needed for salvation ?! Can't God almighty forgive you if you ask him sincerely ?! and how is it just for an innocent man to die for the sin of others ?!
𝟏 𝐉𝐨𝐡𝐧 𝟏:𝟗
𝟗 𝐈𝐟 𝐰𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐬, 𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐟𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐡𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐮𝐬 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐩𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐟𝐲 𝐮𝐬 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐮𝐧𝐫𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬.
4:110. 𝐖𝐡𝐨𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐰𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐯𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐤𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡’𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐝 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡 𝐀𝐥𝐥-𝐅𝐨𝐫𝐠𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐌𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐌𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐢𝐟𝐮𝐥.
4:111. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐡𝐨𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐚 𝐬𝐢𝐧-𝐢𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐧𝐥𝐲 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐥𝐨𝐬𝐬. 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐡 𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥𝐥-𝐊𝐧𝐨𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐠, 𝐀𝐥𝐥-𝐖𝐢𝐬𝐞.
4:112. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐰𝐡𝐨𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐚𝐧 𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐥 𝐨𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐝𝐞𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐛𝐥𝐚𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐢𝐭 𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐧 𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐨𝐧, 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐛𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐬𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭 𝐬𝐢𝐧.
Amen
@@kappamancan4903 All Humans need to repent & Believe in Jesus as their God. Why? Because all Humans have sinned (lied, lusted sexually, stolen, dishonoured parents, unbelief etc). Avoid the fires of Hell (justice of God) and choose Heaven today. Jesus defeated death by rising from the dead. GOD IS HOLY
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363yeah right God created us, then sent himself on earth, then died for us so save us from himself😂
completely makes sense
also God is something we can’t imagine. He is not limited to time or location. He IS everywhere and all the time.
Now Jesus was a human being staying in one place, using toilet, eating like normal human being. Also he didn’t KNOW when’s the day of judgement. How „God” can’t know this?
If you won’t leave your comfort zone and discover other religions, you can’t be sure yours is the ultimate truth. May Allah guide you.
So where is the full podcast?
When he says that the guy who converted from Christianity to Islam is not under threat of death and he who went from Islam to Christianity is, that was the mic drop. They can bring up the old testament, but it doesn't matter. Your life is not in danger for leaving Christianity. In many other religions, it is.
U do understand that the only reason u are not in danger for leaving christianity is because they changed the word of god in to their on beliefs wich means that whatever rules christians follows these days is not the rules of god its the rules of a human. We shouldn’t question god we should only follow his rules no matter what and unfortunately christians think too much with their emotions instead of what has to be done. We muslims have been following the same rules since day one because we know for a fact that changing something about quran is not permissible because it would mean that we are not pleased of what god has told us to do simple as that.
@@Asureofficial the Bible is progressive revelation. The former passes away and the example from Christ on is pretty clear. Christ is very clearly the fulfillment of the OT prophecies. Length of time is irrelevant when the belief system is wrong from the beginning. There's no need to execute unbelievers, they will be judged accordingly at the end. There's not one example in the NT of someone being executed for leaving the church. Not one. The closest might be Ananias and Sapphira. I don't know the reasons God commanded it in the OT. Most likely it was because the Messiah had not yet come, so humans carried the full ramifications of their sins. God invites questioning in the Bible, he says, "come let us reason together." The truth does not fear questioning.
@@Asureofficialobjectively false. It’s infuriating when people like you pull nonsense out of their butt when they don’t even know basic theology. Why speak up if you’re this clueless? I really don’t get it.
@Kevinoffficiall lol so killing someone is following God's order?
@@Asureofficial And thats exactly why you are a terrorist and a terrorist supporter.
Atheist dont believe in Islam, nor any other religion, its not a matter of choice, its a matter of logical principle, we cannot deceive ourselves with imaginary beings that do not exist.
We believe in freedom of thought.
At least christian nations understand that simple concept, but its impossible to live with muslims because you kill people who do not accept your BS. Thats why muslim countries are backwards, you cannot progress because actually using the brain removes religion and faith.
I recall hearing that there were people who tried to warn Muhammad that he was likely receiving his prophecies from a Jinn rather than God. I think that’s a fair point given what I’ve heard spoken today.
Muhammad, if he did exist, sounds like a seriously mentally ill man who heard delusional voices in his head. Jinn's, angels, demons, and God's don't exist. Mental illnesses where people hear delusional voices in their heads do exist. The concepts and proof of mental illness didn't exist 1,300 years ago.
Yes, great discovery. These punishments are mentioned in the Bible and Torah too. All from the same Jinn I'm assuming? Amazing.
@@ziokeye2679No dummy
Name one Christian country where apostates are killed liar?
You people are so evil
Quran came from an angel, well Bible written hundreds of years before Islam even started says this.
Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
MO was possessed by a demon. After the first encounter with entity in a cave he said was Jibril-Gabriel. He ran out of the cave frothing with an epileptic fit. His wife told him it was a demon. Quran is from Satan. He is their God.
When Muslim bro starts quoting at 9:29 it’s literally an old scripture when Christian bro said that those types of scriptures aren’t valid in today’s Christian values. This is exactly what Jesus came to die for.
But Jesus came to uphold and fulfil those laws and scripture and he said those laws could not be abolished. Only Christians after him said they were and invented the story of his death to attract pagan converts to the new religion Paul created. Even if Christians don't follow those laws, they still believe in them and believe they were from God or were upheld by Jesus. So being critical of them in Islam means also being critical of them when God revealed, allowed and legislated the same and when Jesus upheld the same. It's hypocritical.
@@nunya54you’re wrong, respectfully. Jesus literally was performing miracles on the day of Sabbath, talking to women, touching lepers, and denouncing the authority of the religious leaders of the time, so no, he did not come to uphold the law.
@@joelmacias8818 Jesus said in his famous sermon of the sermon on the mount. Matthew, Chapter 5, verse 17 "Don't think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets. I didn’t come to destroy, but to fulfill."
@@nunya54 Yes you are right Jesus came to fulfill the law. In the Old testaments sacrifices were made for forgiveness of sins. Jesus came and lived a sinless life to fulfill the law and requirements of God. So that he may be the perfect Holy sacrifice for once and for all for all people. Fulfilling the will of God and fulfilling the law of God. Now once Jesus died and fullfilled God's will. The new covenant is in effect now. "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." So the scripture is clear here Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law which humans cannot fulfill in their own power. So those who believe in Christ and live according to the spirit are under the grace of God. But those who reject Jesus and live according to the flesh will be judged according to the law. Which will prove them to be guilty and deserving of spiritual death according to the Bible. So what do I mean by all this, Christians do not live under the law as Jews did in the old testament. We live under grace and we are called to be Holy. Now we don't stone people to death or kill someone for not believing in God. Bc Jesus himself set the standard when he was on earth. He forgave the lady who was caught in adultery. He did miracles on the sabbath. He healed the untouchables and lepers. He ate with sinners who religious people thought lowly of. He even disproved the religious Pharisees who were hypocrites. The thing he came to prove was love. He said if you love your God and love your neighbor you have fulfilled all the commands of God. So Christians live their lives under the grace of God not the law of God. For no man can stand before God and boast in fullflling the law. For the word is clear, all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.
@@nunya54The laws aren’t abolished, but we aren’t the ones who can give punishment because we all have sin. Jesus made that clear when he saved the adulterer and told her to sin no more.
Meanwhile Islam is a fusion of Christian, Judaism and mostly Paganism which is why the punishments are so different.
In the Muslim's holy book, there is this verse, "There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has become distinct from the wrong way." Surah Al-Baqarah (2:256). This verse is often cited to emphasize that faith should be a matter of personal choice without coercion. Scholars interpret this to mean that individuals should not be forced into or out of the religion.
“I am the way, the truth, and the life, no ones comes to the Father except through me” John 14:6
To be born as a non-Muslim, especially to be born as a non-Muslim girl, is the greatest blessing of today.
In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
Yes, because Islam is religion rules and law that’s why is being hated and who cares if our religion is hated nothing will ever decrease at all and those will be the losers. If you believe in Christ why you don’t follow him can you explain, am talking about life style
@@thereisnonegoodbutgodjohn363 you are unclean if you write comments like this on youtube
@@Umatulmuhamad In heaven no unclean person is allowed in, you are unclean if you have sinned just once like lying, stealing, sexual immorality, taking the Lord’s Name in vain, evil thoughts etc Jesus (God manifest in the flesh) can put his sinless righteousness on you since He died on the cross, rose from the dead so REPENT AND BELIEVE IN HIM TODAY.
@@TruthCademy Unclean person is a sinner
Have you ever lied, desired something that belongs to someone else, stolen anything (big or small), used God’s Name in vain, been sexually immoral like looking with lust, watching poor, fornicating (premarital sex), had unforgiveness, hated someone, disrespected your parents, insulted someone or gossiped about someone, had evil thoughts. If you’ve sinned once you need to repent today and Believe in the good news of Jesus Christ.
Romans 3: 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
This needs to be viewed all over the 🌎 so people know the truths🙏🏼
Yes that Islam is evil
Yes Christianity is evil too
Islam means who submit to god will
Jesus is prophet Allah is the most merciful
@seanyt14984 do you mean God Lah
I am from the Uk 🇬🇧
Speaking from a former Muslim standpoint. I was a Muslim since childhood till around 15/16 I am 24 years old as of now. Living in a Muslim ideology is one of the most lifeless experiences I ever had.
So you’ve just finished school at 3pm and you have until 5 before you begin the brainwashing till 7. And in that brainwashing there’s a lot of violence. Being bullied in school is another bad thing but then being physically abused at mosque is on another scale.
When reading in the mosque you’re basically reading Arabic without any translation for what so ever. It’s so pointless you can’t even imagine. No child should be living in this slavery camp is what I call it. The amount of times I was afraid of my mosque life while being at at school I remember practicing my Arabic lines rather than what actually mattered was school. Islam just ruins your life because in a way you don’t even have a life no freedom for yourself. Wake up To school and then you have one hour of freedom after school and then it’s slavery time.
There’s also another thing when I was around like 10-11 they then started doing some Saturday-Sunday events where they have some kind of preacher talking and I was only a kid remember that. The guy like shouts and screams violently into the mic and through a ton of speakers they had. I remember putting some tissue into my ears and you could still hear him. Anyway he talked and talked and spoke such heinous words speaking about why violence is the way of life and oh if somebody is lost in directions and they ask you. Your response should be that you tell them the wrong way even if you know that’s one example he gave which I thought really?
I could go on and on but it pisses me off typing this negative energy.
Jesus Christ died on that cross in Calvary and died for everyone’s sins through his own blood. The Way The Truth The Life
There is no physical bullying in Islam. It's unfortunate if that happened to you but that's not part of the religion.
I felt goosebumps when he said Jesus came to stop the old testament , felt electrified maybe in the way he truly believes in Christ as a convert . These people act more christians than those who were born as christians or in a liberal country. These people appreciates peace and salvation most since they truly can testify the difference of both worlds .
They disapprove bible for being evil, but their own book says the same evil stuff, and much more. They can’t defend Islam. It isn’t possible. Islam was created to make warriors. To conquer land. NOTHING more.
Yeah the converts argument was so fascinating than Roberts.
I thought Robert will bring such a lightening point.
I felt this statement is what won the argument. The Islamists kept going back to the OT on verses that were meant for a young nation of Israel, none of these are practiced by Christians. Furthermore, Jesus did stop the OT with His teachings of love your enemy as you love yourself, turn the other cheek, he who is without sin cast the first stone, etc. It was also scary hearing the 2 say that the Christian convert should be put to death based on Islamic law.
People are not born a Christian. It is a personal decision to follow Jesus Christ and is necessary in order to be saved
Jesus fulfilled the law of the Old Testament & set us free from it's wrath but taking it upon Himself.He was the only one who could do it as He was the pure & Holy Son of God in human form.
As a Christian, anytime, anywhere I'd be happy to discuss "slavery in the Bible", punishment for blasphemy, and the other issues he mentioned. Any Christian should be ok to discuss that. The problem with Islam is that there is to be NO discussion of Mohammad, or the nature of Allah.
You can discuss it. It's just that Muslims will not see the need to scrutinize what their God revealed compared to how Christians scrutinize their own religion and changed from it. It's not the same standard.
Didn’t you know allah is a foot
So let’s discuss about this biblical slavery, what are your personal opinions about this and do you think it wasn’t horrible??
I found this links regarding the islam and who Allah is:
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That's absolutely false. You do realise the Islamic golden age under the abassid Empire in Baghdad was exactly for the purpose of discussing religion of all types, belief systems, and philosophy.
After the old testament,Jesus came with the New Testament and Jesus never ordered us to kill but He said we should love one another.
Jesus supported Mosaic law which had lots of killing.
It seems like the best way to convert someone to Christianity is to show them Islam. I think and hope that applies to current Muslims too, who would have so much to offer us in joining with Christ.
@@standard-user-name If they're a pagan perhaps due to some similarities Christianity has with some pagan faiths (which is due to Paul and the Church borrowing those ideas to easily attract them into Christianity).
Otherwise, it is far too difficult for people to go from believing in one God who is all powerful, has complete knowledge and power and cannot be contained by the heavens (like the Bible says) to believing He can be contained inside a woman's uterus, lose power and knowledge and is three in one. Christianity has found it far too difficult over the years to convert Muslims (like Jews with similar beliefs about God). In Islam, God is Most Merciful and Just and loves to forgive the sins of the repentance whereas in Christianity he dies to pay the price of those sins. That and God being a person or three persons and changing so drastically is far too illogical for most people to believe if they're not raised up in the religion. The Trinity alone stumps many Christians raised in Christianity and causes them to leave the religion often.
Firstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state.
In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system.
DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS
Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted.
DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS ,
AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY
THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON ,
WITH UR LOGIC
TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA)
FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
@@standard-user-nameFirstly, it's essential to understand the concept of due process. In an Islamic state, like any other, due process is crucial. This means that an individual cannot simply be condemned without a fair trial. There must be a court hearing where any objections are presented and addressed. This ensures that justice is served according to the laws of the state.
In an Islamic state, the leader holds the same weight as governmental laws being passed in other countries. For example, just as the US government can pass laws regarding treason, in Islamic states, the laws of Islam are the country's laws. These laws, including those regarding apostasy, are upheld as part of the legal system.
DONT BE A HYPOCRITE WITH DOUBLE STANDARDS
Secondly, it's often pointed out that similar laws are found in Deuteronomy, a book in the Bible. This is clear double standards, especially when those who claim to be Christians do not necessarily practice their religion. However, it's essential to note that while these laws exist, they are often ignored or falsely interpreted.
DONT SIT ON THE HIGH HORSE CHRITIANS , AND SAY ITS BABERIC, YOURLL HAVE THE SAME F'N ,LAWS ,
AND DONT CLAIM YOURLL ARE IN A GREAT COUNTRY
THE PREMISE FOR KILLING AN APOSTATE IS FOUND IN CRIMES LIKE TREASON ,
WITH UR LOGIC
TREASON IS GUD , WHY ARE THEY KILLING HIM ,HE HAS FREEDOM OF SPEACH AND FREEDOM OF TAUGHT ,IE SAME THING , OH HE IS AGAINST US (USA)
FOR BEING TERRORISTS, FOR WHAT WE DID IN THE MIDDLE EAST , WHEN WE CLAIMED WEPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION .
One of the main differences between this two religions is free will. One believes in free will the other don’t.
Imagine how incompetent a human being has to be to go out and kill other people because the story book they like told them to do it
Ignorance is the reason.
It’s savage behavior. Disgusting. Jesus is the truth and the light.
😅
@@Wanker527search quran numerical miracles
@@chaosff5539Miracles? what miracles? that you can have sex with children and 72 wives after you kill people?
That book is Satan's book
This is an AMAZING debate! I love this, THANKS BE TO JESUS
Never ever want to live in q Muslim country….like ever. This video really made me appreciate my country even more. Now I see why England is having so many problems.
They will migrate, multiply and takeover your country when they become 33%.
yaa, your country just too kind by keep accepting those immigrants.. once they become the majority, england is done!!
1000000% correct
In the Quran and The Bible it's clear that Jesus is in heaven. But when it comes to Mohammed it's unknown what happened to him after death. So if he is in hell whoever believes him and his religion are going to hell...right. Think Muslims...
Yeap, the crime rate is so high in your country, where it is in muslim countries like saudia and katar lowest in the world!! Happy living
I once struggled to understand nor accept Christ as God, I am a Christian, born into a Pentecostal Christian family but after hearing the reading of Deuteronomy from this Muslim guy, it further cement my believe in Christ Jesus as God Almighty in human form. Only God Himself can cancel such believe system. Thank You Jesus for rescuing us from the darkness of the dark ages, I hope the Islamic nations catches up soon. seeing the anger and annoyance in these muslim guys, I can see the ego and annoyance towards Christ Jesus as God....the male ego pupping.
Its shocking how they have suspended their brain just to obey the command to kill anyone who leaves islam. Am so grateful God actually gives Christians the right to question Him and He is willing to answer back.
You probably should study your religion and Jesus then because Jesus followed the Torah all his life and so did the disciples and the first Christians after them for centuries and none of them believed Jesus was God btw.
I had a friend that was Muslim and become a Mormon. He tried to go on a mission but the church finally had to send him home after sending him to three different states because his uncle kept trying to kill him.
This is so specific you're probably telling the truth 😂
Horrendous
you know whats funny? comment like this those muslim doesnt show up and say something about it. so typical of their kind
his own family. thats wild
And the law Jesus followed would have had the same happen to him
It’s crazy that every single time I see a Muslim debate anything about Islam they’re always angry and you can see the hatred in their hearts. I pray Jesus softens their hearts.
That's probably the anger they have at polytheism and Christians lying about Jesus. Everyone should be angry and hate falsehood.
@@nunya54 lying? Who lies about knowing who God is 🙄? The fact that you say “they are lying about who Jesus is” instead of “they believe Jesus is God” sound like u purposely choose to be angry…
The early Church fathers, Paul . . . they were all known and established as liars. I'm not angry. I'm just saying people should be, if they claim to love and want to follow Jesus. @@Hanichoye
@@nunya54 ummm those are your beliefs and it’s okay but you should also respect ppl beliefs. In your logic others should be angry you think claims about Jesus being God are lies and believes he isn’t God. Would you be okay w that? Respect other’s beliefs as you want them to respect yours.
What are my beliefs exactly and what was disrespectful? Why would anyone be angry at the truth? The claims about Jesus being God ARE lies. Do you know the people who wrote those claims and what is known about them?@@Hanichoye Paul was established to be a liar. The gospel writers are not known but they have many parts in their writings that are considered false.
This man left Christianity without actually knowing Christ. His arguments make that evident.
”They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.“
1 John 2:19
Thank you .read the whole chapter... Wonderful revelation
It is very worrisome, what is happening to people who are not serious about Christ and Christianity?
u dont k wether he knew christ or not
First, I believe that the Bible is the word of God. Since that is the case, the Bible says that they went out from us but were never of us. It also says that He who began a good work in the Christian will bring it to completion. It says that whoever believes in Christ will have *eternal* life. It says that nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ. Christ tells us that we will not perish and that nobody will snatch us out of His hand.
Second, if I told you that I knew you and then started describing you in a way that does not represent who you are or made claims that don’t reflect your mind, can I say that I know you? There is no evidence of any knowledge of who Christ is as He has revealed Himself in His word. Repent and believe the gospel, the free gift of salvation to unworthy sinners through the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, not of our own works so no one can boast.
@@StillWatersFarm-w4z 1.firstly u made the claim that this man not knowing christ is the reason he left Christianity, even tho u do not know the guy whatsoever meaning there could be 101 reasons for the guys conversion.
2. The bible WAS the word of god. Humans then came and altered it and created different testaments and different bibles making it not 100% the word of god. There are many contradictions that are in the bible and u can find with a quick search however I can also myself identify them for u if u please.
3. I just want u to reread that last sentence u wrote and try and make sense of it " death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ" death of the lord? the all-knowing all-powerfull omnipotent dies?? this claim is faulted and makes no logical sense.
Lastly, I believe that this guys conversion was simply because he actually found the true Jesus. I challenge u to learn about jesus peace be upon him the son of Mary in the Islamic point of view and why Muslims dont believe that a man who was given birth to be a creature of the universe and the almighty god. Dont know what is would cost u as I assume u already know Jesus peace be upon him and maybe u learn things that u havent even known about Jesus himself. ua-cam.com/video/na8aDYS8XXw/v-deo.htmlsi=vYbFqFu7or0HnIjq heres an interesting vid u might care to watch
I always came back to these type of videos to remind myself why I am atheist
Right!?!?! They are debating whether or not it is morally correct to murder people for their religious beliefs, for blasphemy, for apostasy. WTF?! In the absence of Islam, that's not even a debate, and it hasn't been for 300 years. The West came so far with the enlightenment, and now Islam is dragging us back to the middle ages where murder is seen as a good thing that makes god happy.
Here's something to remember though: ONLY in the Judeo-Christian founded nations you can live freely as an Atheist. In the Islamic ones, you'd be killed or forced to convert into Islam under the strict religious laws. Maybe just a tiny thing to appreciate about the left side of the screen's culture.