The Molotovs, Anya, Laurie Wright, Another Day, the entire rock scene is immense!!! Clarissa, Lucy, Young Athena, everyone! - on and my nephew Elijah is flying in from Australia next week! 😆❤️❤️❤️ Always with you! ❤
Neil Peart switched to a traditional grip after he had already been in Rush for over 20 years. As great as he was he went and took lessons from Jazz great Freddie Gruber and reinvented his entire style because he felt the need to improve. Most of the people that criticize you probably can't play a kazoo let alone the drums.
As a drummer, I have never understood the controversy about how you hold your sticks. Whatever feels best and allows the best drumming is the right answer.
Andrés Segovia has entered the chat... As a young man, I went down the Stevie Ray Vaughan/ Malcolm Young rabbit-hole: .14-68 strings on an electric guitar, with a ridiculously high action. Even used a wound G-string! It DID, at the time, improve my "tone", but what I didn't understand was: I was to aggressive on the strings, particularly with my right-(picking) hand. And, while it worked at the time, I'm now paying the price... Ergonomics are important. Everybody should take lessons from a classically trained tutor, otherwise there's a price to pay down the line..
Iam so sorry to hear this Sina make sure you are taking vitamin D3 with K . And get the good stuff not all is good. How could anyone tell you how to play you know best that's pretty obvious so naturally pretty and good music to our ears. ❤️🇺🇸✝️🇺🇸❤️
@@sherryanimallover7506 You are wrong... People have been playing all kinds of musical instruments, for millenia. But, there are ways to play most, without ruining your tendons. Naturally, as a drummer, you WILL eventually fry your hearing, and get tinnitus, before it's totally gone. Same happens to electric guitarists.... There was a saying, back when I was young: "If it is to loud, you're to old" Well , better than going Deaf, don't you think??
You won't hear any older drummers (I'm 70) complaining about your grip. I played traditional grip most of my life. I am now learning matched just because it's different (Gordy Knutson). Being a musician, for me, isn't about the goal or achievement, it's about the journey and just plane enjoyment! Love your playing style!
Hi Sina, I was taught the traditional grip when I was 12 Years old, and I can tell you 60 years later I can still play as well as I could then. Thank you for telling why it’s good. Congratulations move to the UK to increase your musical journey. Cheers
The internet is full of people who just love to mind everyone else's business. The "well, actually" contingent is always at the ready to correct someone. You are a phenomenal drummer and I thoroughly enjoy every video you put out. Glad you found what works best for you!
This old drummer, who has always used both grips 'just because' they are both useful, says "Go for it! and ignore all the internet 'advisors' who waste time criticizing things they don't understand. Love your music! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for keeping us informed about your health Sina, please take good care of yourself! 💗 Also best wishes for your move to London, I hope all your dreams come true :)
Thank-you for talking to us about your big move and your journey with your hands and grip. I think that everything that you told us just solidifies that you are not just an awesome drummer, but a truly awesome person as well. I am sure that we are all eager to see your dreams come to fruition.
You are a phenomenal drummer!!! I don't understand why people have given you such a hard time about the way you choose to hold your drum sticks! Goodness!!! Continue to heal and I wish you all the best in London! God bless you!!!😊
You have been my favorite drummer on UA-cam for years. Keep having fun and doing what you love and many more will tag along on this ride with you as you show the world what gives you joy.
I am sure many of us feel your pain. As a guitarist I suffered an injury to my right hand and have not been able to play to the same standard as before the injury. At least you caught this condition before it was too late. I wish you much success Sina.
Thank you Sina. I am sorry to hear all those years of enjoying your music, you were in such pain. How wonderful you found the solution, and the courage to share this part of your life with us. Of couse no one is perfect, but you continue to impress. I look forward to those ideas you have for future. With many decades to come, of doing your thing and making as many changes as you want or noeed to along the way. Your hard work, skill, and determination will always be highly appreciated here. Thank you Sina. Best wishes. How forturnate we are to be able to hear you work, and cheer you on.
Since finding this channel a few years back, I wondered about either tendonitis or carpal tunnel syndrome. I worked in manufacturing for about 40 years so I know the pain. The way I dealt with it was to make changes to how I handled the product or equipment as soon as I felt discomfort. Changing the grip on the sticks and being comfortable with being able to go from one style to another can likely go a long way in eliminating the problem. You are on the right track.
Hallo Sina, danke das Du uns erklärt hast, warum Du zum traditionellen Griff gewechselt bist. Ich wünsche Dir viel Gesundheit , und wundervolle Momente in London, und natürlich freue ich mich weiterhin Deine tollen Covers zu sehen.
As another drummer with tendonitis issues, I can tell you that there is no "one size fits all" treatment. When I met Max Weinberg, I asked him how his hands were, and he said they were good, and he uses both traditional and matched grips to this day. I played traditional grip for about 5 months when I was 18 and had to stop traditional grip due to tendonitis issues. When I went back to matched grip, I really had to figure out how to play without pain, and the grip I am using now is really working and helping me play better as opposed to hindering my playing. Thank you so much for posting this. We are all different drummers and we all know what's right for us. Individualism is important. As far as the people saying you're doing it wrong? Well, they don't know you. While my experience was the direct opposite as to yours, I can say that I am happy you are not feeling any pain. Keep doing what you're doing.
Sina, thank you for sharing your struggles with others. I'm sure it will be very helpful to fellow musicians who may be physically suffering in the same way. Best of luck on your future projects. And, most importantly, keep on rockin'!!
Congratulations Sina on your move to London. I am so excited for you and I am sure you will have a great opportunity to grow as an artist and as a person. Thank you for taking the time to explain your move to traditional grip you do what you need to do to stay healthy and strong. Sina everything that is happening to you, you deserve your dedication and determination has paid off. I wish you the best. You keep jamming and I'll keep watching. Don't forget to keep smiling as well. Be safe.
Thanks for the explanation Sina, it must be a relief to have not much pain now. Though for me, an explanation wasn't necessary. But i understand why you decided to share your story now, it must be a weight off your mind. Enjoy London, lets hope you find a studio soon, and some talented musicians to make music with.
Buddy Rich, one of the greatest drummers of all time used traditional grip. Keep doing what you're doing Sina. You produce great content and you're a wonderful, heartfelt, talented musician. Cheers from Canada.
Actually, both Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa occasionally used the matched grip when they were mainly playing the tom-toms. The traditional grip originated when drummers were marching as they played.
Glad you didn't quit. I feel bad people were busting your chops about the switch in styles. I remember when you did it but never thought anything about it, as far as I could tell you never missed a beat or thought your work suffered. I think you're one of the best people in the world. I loved hearing you swear it made me laugh. Try not to let the negative comments get you down, do what's best for you, and create the music you love. I know I love most of what you do, if it's something or a cover by someone I don't care for. I just complement your effort and time it took to do the job. Congratulations on your move to London. I know it's what you wanted, happy for you. Sina, best of luck and take care.
I'm not a drummer, but I've been listening to you for a long time! I enjoy your sound. I recall you changing your grip and playing with it on your channel. I sat back and listened again because something was different. The sound was so crisp and precise, so I considered it a vast improvement. Thank you for sharing your story. Just keep on doing that thing you do! Always take care of your health!
Thank you! Very inspirational. It's almost as if these "My life is over" crises can be the very event to make our life better, if (as occasionally happens) we have the courage to step back and feel the bigger picture. Just as you so eloquently described. I needed this reminder right about now, so thank you.
I’ve used both grips all my life in all styles of music and all volume levels. When I got into my early 40’s I started having pain in the joints of my fingers so I spent a few years learning to eliminate ALL tension in my hands and basically let the sticks float in my hands while I play which allows the mechanical energy/force to dissipate into the air rather than into my fingers/hands/arms (that took a lot of getting used to!). I’m 56 now and my hands feel fantastic and the sound I produce on the drums is bigger and fuller than it ever was before I revamped my grip. Best of luck in your drumming journey.
Enjoy your success. You play from the soul. You do for you! As age creeps,we adjust. I pounded skins less than 2 monthsback in 70's. Now,pushing 65. So refreshing to see. All the years.
Take care of yourself and use what ever grip works best for you, I will have to take a better look at my grip and how i move. It's cool that you are now in London where so much of the music I have listened to all my life comes from. I wish you lots of success in your new city and I look forward to all of your future videos, they have helped me so much in the past.
Sina - Thanks for the courage of sharing - I've always been impressed with your skill and obvious talent. As a pianist, one of the things I first learned was correct hand position, something that has translated into many other areas of my life. Enjoy your time in London, and best wishes on your musical and life journey.
I can't see the reason why people would bug you about the way you play... The final result has always been great, so it doesn't matter how you hold the sticks ! Good luck in London and best wishes from Brazil ! Keep on rocking !!
You demonstrated quite perfectly in your playing that traditional grip is just as powerful as matched grip. Your example of Stewart Copeland is a great example of why traditional grip is cool 😎 👌🥁 Have a great time here in the Uk 🇬🇧 😀
Sina, I never paid too much attention to which grip you were using. Some of the great drummers in music over the years switched grips depending on what the music called for. I took a drum camp years ago taught by a man named Ed Shaughnessy. For those that don't know, Ed was the Tonight Show's drummer. He preferred the traditional grip, but would use the matched grip on occasion. His take was, use whichever grip feels comfortable. Greats like Todd Sucherman, Buddy Rich, and Neil Peart use or used both grips. I'm glad you didn't quit drumming, and look forward to seeing you for years to come.
You’ve done more than any of those that find fault in your technique. I did notice the change when it happened but you never let the pain show or make excuses. Just love your music and hope to hear more success in your life! I think London is ready for you now.
Congratulations on your move to London! You've grown up so much since I first discovered your incredible drumming. I noticed that you kind of disappeared for a bit, so this makes sense about your wrist pain. I'm so glad you're doing better and enjoying the feel of traditional grip. Best wishes, Sina! 🥁
Thank you for sharing such a personal, sensitive subject with us. For what it's worth, I think the traditional grip looks cool - and it never held Buddy Rich back! I'm glad you're on the mend and that you found a solution that allowed you to continue doing what you love and are so good at. Also, your English is incredibly good!
Sina, you totally rock by following your heart and sharing this with your music. I'm proud to have been one of your (many) teachers at ArtEZ Arnhem and can't wait to hear and see more from your London-adventure. ❤🎶🌟
Thank you also for being one of her amazing teachers. Your Art of the Trio performances with Sina at ArtEZ will I'm sure be wonderful memories for her from her time there.
glad u ok use grip which serves best, i played drums my self many years ago , not gonna h8, your technique has always been outstanding, just rest when your bod says you need to, iam more guitar and bass, love jamming to your drum work as a work out thank you for what you do you have made my bass work and lead guitar work better)
I wish you all the Best Sina , Do not let anything get you down , Life is too short... do what you do that makes you feel better and Follow your heart and intuition , You do not need to explain to anyone but I am sure a lot of people can Appreciate it because not only are you an Amazing Drummer and Artist you are an Amazing individual. I have seen Amazing people who Drum with their Feet and they Rock. Rock and Roll will never Die , all the Best , The Rebel Yell Cover will Always be my Fav 🤘
i’m so happy you figured out the other grip helped with your pain and that you’re feeling better! you are doing what’s best for YOU! & enjoy your new adventures in London ❤
At 72, now, still drumming, I was taught in the 1950's the traditional grip. When I was younger it is all I used and I'm still using it today. When I do sticking practice, I always use traditional grip. On jazz tunes it is easier to do 5/4, 6/8, 7/4 signatures and some of the other syncopated beats with traditional grip. In the past 10 years on faster rock beats I find that switching to what I call over-hand grip (matched grip) is easier to get around the kit more smoothly and rhythmically with steady even beats on fills. As a right-handed drummer the last paid gig I did in 2018 for a three night stand in Nevada, I was beating my right wrist on hi/hat so hard on fast rock tunes, my wrist swelled up and had to ice it on breaks and use *coban wrap to continue the set/gig . It is my belief how one was trained and learned the 13 basic rudiments and the grip taught, is a discipline thing in playing. I began with classical orchestration symphony music and of course rock in my teens. More important than how one holds sticks is to learn music theory and be able to read music. The real gift is just being able to sit in cold on a song never played and be able to make it all sound professional just using what God gave you. You Sina, do a great job at that.
I am SOOOO glad for your testimony; I was for a while going to praise you for the traditional grip you started using. It would communicate that you appeared more professional and serious about your craft! I'm sorry I didn't comment positively earlier, as I guess I was too lazy to do so. I didn't realize that you received negative responses to the switch, and it bothered me that people would be so obtuse in their reactions. I also was happy to hear that you felt strongly about your choice and wasn't swayed by the ignorant public opinion! I have newly subscribed, and look forward to seeing more of you professional and personal growth as you move on in this venue! Thanks for what you are doing!
I'm so sorry to hear that you had a lot of wrist problems, and I wish you good healing! It was very brave of you to keep this private and therefore not being able to share it with your audience. But all the while your spirits seemed to be high, you radiated happiness and you were very dedicated to the music - very strong! Congratulations on your openness now and for your bold move to London (but a bit sad that you had to leave your splendid house boat behind). I don't have a good suggestion on who to meet, but I loved to go to the Ritzy Cinema in Brixton. Enjoy London and all the best!
Glad you are feeling better. Happy that you moved to London. Meet as many ppl as you can as this could lead to some great connections and collaborations.
Thanks for the update and your openness. Honestly, I always thought it was your school in NL that forced you to switch, but I was wrong. Btw, you could also mention Charlie Watts from the Stones, he also played traditional grip. Have fun and success in London, music has no borders - and give me a reason to fly over and see London again combined with a gig of you
I totally get it. One of my heroes and teachers, Les Paul, the man himself, showed me what arthritis did to his hands... but shared the secret of getting emotion into his wrists and the night he played for us, he went from only one finger (and it was awesome) to two and then 3 fingers working. He looked me right in the eye from the stage and said, "this doesn't happen much these days.. but this is the power of our optimism" Everyone in the room was crying at his melody playing. ... we were weeping. He taught me that the power of music is the power of emotion, whether we are fully healthy, slightly sore of fully wracked with age, we can still bring beautiful meaningful feelings to people who love and need music. *** I remember when you switched to traditional grip, and I commented right away. I think I said that I loved the new FEEL you had. When you play matched you got a certain feel.. and when you switched you got a different one.. and they are both beautiful. Thank you for reminding me and inspiring me to keep making music no matter what the body does or fails to do. I'll be here for your next phase.
I was always curious about this. In fact, I almost asked about it in your last Discord livestream. Thank you for enlightening us. Please don't feel bad in any way. I mean, you can't help what your body does. Whatever works best for you! I'm sorry you had to suffer. Keep drumming the way you want! Looking forward to hearing about your future projects.
You do whatever works and pay no attention to anyone who criticizes in negative fashion. I love watching you play. Your execution of Inna-godda- davida just blew me away. Best of luck to you with your health, personal life and career. We here in the USA love you.
Grip doesn't really matter, it's the musician behind the drums that makes the difference. Since subscribing 8 years ago or so ago, you were already atop of the drumming game. Your ability to mimic and make the precise beats of legendary drummers says a lot of your skill. You're one of the best.
I had to do the same as a guitarist. I have switched from playing the acoustic guitar in holding the guitar sideways sitting or standing position. Now I hold my guitar in the classical position sitting or standing. Since I have made the changes my wrist doesn't hurt. And playing chords in strumming or fingerstyle is even better and easier. I too will stretch my fingers and forearms and warm-up with scales and Etudes for 30 minutes before I go to repertoire for three to four hours. You have been blessed by our Lord God with a wonderful gift to share.
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad to hear you're getting better! Health comes first, and you sharing your story hopefully helps others watch their bodies before it's too late. Also, it's never wrong to expand and learn new things. I'm consider myself still a beginner at the drums and still have lots to learn, but I have traditional grip and open handed drumming on my to-learn list, and be it only to challenge myself outside of my comfort zone. I wish you a fantastic time in London, it's a great city!
To be honest, I was always mesmerized by the extreme talent that I was watching, not by the way that you held the sticks. Keep doing what you are doing. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Sina, I am really pleased you have found the real issue with your wrists, and have been able to make changes that are giving you the freedom to drum the way you love to. I also have had ganglions, and needed to get one surgicallly removed as a child. They can hurt and are limiting, and that can be quite scary when you are so committed to a career that requires full movement like you are. Just great to hear about your new direction and location. I can't wait to see what comes next. Thanks for the personal video. It is great to know a little more about you, which makes soaking up your amazing drumming even better!
Thank you so much for sharing your story and I glad you're talking steps to protect your self against physical pain and discomfort. Gotta look out for yourself sometimes no matter what. I'm glad you didn't quit, it'd be an huge loss of talent and passion for the musical world. I hope your move to London serves you well and allows you to meet your dreams and goals for the future. Again thank you for sharing your story. Much love and respect to you.
I'm not a musician but have been following and admiring you for years. It was very heartwarming that you shared this intimate story with us. Thank you. Best wishes for your move to London, I hope all your dreams come true. From Backwoods Texas, USA
Thanks for the update. You were born to play drums with excellence. No one has a right to criticize how you play. You have learned great lessons through your adversity and will continue to excel in what you do. Keep building on your great body of work!
Bless you for making this video, I've seen far too much hate for the traditional grip and never understood it. Seeing you fly on the kit with traditional grip is so inspirational! I'm a couple years into drumming and instantly found the traditional grip more comfortable for me personally, and started drumming with lessons with a Jazz drummer that encouraged it. I have had this constant mental battle to transition to matched grip because of videos and comments I see, but you've solidified my love for traditional grip. I wish you all the best, you have a new fan from the states. 😄
I switched when I was diagnosed for Osteoarthritis in my left shoulder. It started when I would get shooting pains in that shoulder. I thought I could either try traditional grip or sell my kit and become strictly a hand drummer but I thought I'd give traditional grip a shot. It was clumsy and my strokes were weak for two years ( Online drum teacher Rob " Beat down" down said it takes four years to get comfy doing traditional grip). However I have gotten decent at it to the point where most musicians can't tell which grip I'm using). I lost a lot of my old tricks from the switch ( between the new grip and my messy shoulders I can't do a double crash hit very well now) but gained some new ones. I can't circle around the toms as easily but my fills have become more snare centric if you will and are more Jazzy overall plus I've gotten more into brushes and I truly think that traditional grip is the only way to get the nuances of brush work. I don't play out as much but I'm glad I'm still able to play, even if it's more for my own pleasure these days.
Welcome to my home city! Hope your wrists continue to heal, Ganglion Cyst can be very painful, so it is good you've figured out the cause and a solution to it. I love listening to your music. Looking forward to hearing more. London has a lot of music both past and current. But it is a hard area to get into. I just play music for my own enjoyment, but my son has been trying to get into the music business ever since leaving university, and still can't get a job doing what he wants. You probably have a better chance than he does, because of your UA-cam channel. So, good luck!
Thank you for everything! You just rock, Sina, Welcome to the UK. Several years of looking at your vids,....you are a stunning musician. Whatever you need to do to keep yourself healthy, is good by me. Love every post you have ever made.
I switch back and forth. Teaching students want for marching and left handed main right open playing. Getting the stick to take all the shock is the best. Glad you’re doing better. Missed seeing your vids.
Thank you for this information Sina you always treat your fans with true kindness and care, very fortunately for us through your love of music and your dedication to your craft you have brought us so much incredible entertainment over the years. Wishing you every success in London and looking forward to future projects 💕💕💕
Sina your the best, you do what is needed for your health, so you can carry on with your passion, your the best, and is a good warning to others to use the best grip for your drumming and listen to your body. I have no qualms with what grip you use, as it is none of my business or anybody else's, but i just to enjoy your music and commitment to your drumming. Do you still play Bass Guitar? love knowing your now residing in London. Good luck and best wishes and wish you well with success in London.
I have a background in the science of Kinematics from my work thirty years ago. It is a branch of physics that describes the relative motion of objects or groups of objects in a system. I remember seeing your previous work and thinking, "That's going to hurt someday." While I don't know much about drumming, I always thought that your style (pure directed power) and motion would reflect pain in your neck, the shoulder, and the nerves down into your wrists. I wish that I had commented on it. Be well!
Who should I meet in London? Put some suggestions in the comments below!
Hello sina❤
Paul McCartney/ Ringo Starr ❤
The Molotovs, Anya, Laurie Wright, Another Day, the entire rock scene is immense!!! Clarissa, Lucy, Young Athena, everyone! - on and my nephew Elijah is flying in from Australia next week! 😆❤️❤️❤️ Always with you! ❤
The King
I'm in London! Sina Drums meet and greet soon please! Welcome to the greatest city for music in the world. xoxo
Neil Peart switched to a traditional grip after he had already been in Rush for over 20 years. As great as he was he went and took lessons from Jazz great Freddie Gruber and reinvented his entire style because he felt the need to improve. Most of the people that criticize you probably can't play a kazoo let alone the drums.
He did, and then went back...to match...
😂😂😂😂 A Kazoo lol
How dare you .. I'm an expert kazoodalist and paper and comb player 🤣🤣
And he quickly switched back to matched.
RIP GOAT
This shouldn't even be a debate. Sina you play the best way you feel comfortable.
Exactly
As a drummer, I have never understood the controversy about how you hold your sticks. Whatever feels best and allows the best drumming is the right answer.
Do whatever makes you comfortable 😊
As long as the job is done, who cares which grip is used?
Andrés Segovia has entered the chat...
As a young man, I went down the Stevie Ray Vaughan/ Malcolm Young rabbit-hole:
.14-68 strings on an electric guitar, with a ridiculously high action. Even used a wound G-string!
It DID, at the time, improve my "tone", but what I didn't understand was:
I was to aggressive on the strings, particularly with my right-(picking) hand.
And, while it worked at the time, I'm now paying the price...
Ergonomics are important.
Everybody should take lessons from a classically trained tutor, otherwise there's a price to pay down the line..
Iam so sorry to hear this Sina make sure you are taking vitamin D3 with K . And get the good stuff not all is good. How could anyone tell you how to play you know best that's pretty obvious so naturally pretty and good music to our ears.
❤️🇺🇸✝️🇺🇸❤️
@@sherryanimallover7506 You are wrong... People have been playing all kinds of musical instruments, for millenia.
But, there are ways to play most, without ruining your tendons.
Naturally, as a drummer, you WILL eventually fry your hearing, and get tinnitus, before it's totally gone.
Same happens to electric guitarists....
There was a saying, back when I was young:
"If it is to loud, you're to old"
Well , better than going Deaf,
don't you think??
You won't hear any older drummers (I'm 70) complaining about your grip. I played traditional grip most of my life. I am now learning matched just because it's different (Gordy Knutson).
Being a musician, for me, isn't about the goal or achievement, it's about the journey and just plane enjoyment! Love your playing style!
I am glad you are feeling better. I wish nothing but the best for you.
Hi Sina, I was taught the traditional grip when I was 12 Years old, and I can tell you 60 years later I can still play as well as I could then. Thank you for telling why it’s good. Congratulations move to the UK to increase your musical journey. Cheers
The internet is full of people who just love to mind everyone else's business. The "well, actually" contingent is always at the ready to correct someone. You are a phenomenal drummer and I thoroughly enjoy every video you put out. Glad you found what works best for you!
agree because it sure wasn’t match grip.
@@kadster65 There's no way I could tell you how to play you are incredibly talented.
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Well actually...whatever style feels good for her she should use.
Exactly!
Mind everyone else's business? U mean the business the person is posting for ALL to see on social media?? Are u serious??
This old drummer, who has always used both grips 'just because' they are both useful, says "Go for it! and ignore all the internet 'advisors' who waste time criticizing things they don't understand. Love your music! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much for keeping us informed about your health Sina, please take good care of yourself! 💗
Also best wishes for your move to London, I hope all your dreams come true :)
Thank you for being honest and coming forward about the importance of fundamentals... You rock!
Thank-you for talking to us about your big move and your journey with your hands and grip. I think that everything that you told us just solidifies that you are not just an awesome drummer, but a truly awesome person as well. I am sure that we are all eager to see your dreams come to fruition.
You are a phenomenal drummer!!! I don't understand why people have given you such a hard time about the way you choose to hold your drum sticks! Goodness!!! Continue to heal and I wish you all the best in London! God bless you!!!😊
You have been my favorite drummer on UA-cam for years. Keep having fun and doing what you love and many more will tag along on this ride with you as you show the world what gives you joy.
glad to hear that you overcame some major obstacles to continue doing what you love and we love what you do
I am sure many of us feel your pain. As a guitarist I suffered an injury to my right hand and have not been able to play to the same standard as before the injury. At least you caught this condition before it was too late.
I wish you much success Sina.
This discovery is absolutely brilliant. Best of luck with your new journey in London...
There is no blame or shame. Thank God you listened to the pain and found a work around.
Thank you Sina. I am sorry to hear all those years of enjoying your music, you were in such pain. How wonderful you found the solution, and the courage to share this part of your life with us. Of couse no one is perfect, but you continue to impress. I look forward to those ideas you have for future. With many decades to come, of doing your thing and making as many changes as you want or noeed to along the way. Your hard work, skill, and determination will always be highly appreciated here. Thank you Sina. Best wishes. How forturnate we are to be able to hear you work, and cheer you on.
Excellent comment 🥳🥁👍
I'm so glad you figured it out and can continue with less pain or pain free!! I love you and your work! rock on Sina!!
Since finding this channel a few years back, I wondered about either tendonitis or carpal tunnel syndrome. I worked in manufacturing for about 40 years so I know the pain. The way I dealt with it was to make changes to how I handled the product or equipment as soon as I felt discomfort. Changing the grip on the sticks and being comfortable with being able to go from one style to another can likely go a long way in eliminating the problem. You are on the right track.
I'm so glad yoou're healing and feeling better!
Sina, thank you for sharing your life and skills with us. You know you have a huge online family here that only want the best for you!
Hallo Sina, danke das Du uns erklärt hast, warum Du zum traditionellen Griff gewechselt bist. Ich wünsche Dir viel Gesundheit , und wundervolle Momente in London,
und natürlich freue ich mich weiterhin Deine tollen Covers zu sehen.
You do what is right for you. Regardless, you play,you rock im so fortunate. Its in your heart.
Heart.
As another drummer with tendonitis issues, I can tell you that there is no "one size fits all" treatment. When I met Max Weinberg, I asked him how his hands were, and he said they were good, and he uses both traditional and matched grips to this day. I played traditional grip for about 5 months when I was 18 and had to stop traditional grip due to tendonitis issues. When I went back to matched grip, I really had to figure out how to play without pain, and the grip I am using now is really working and helping me play better as opposed to hindering my playing. Thank you so much for posting this. We are all different drummers and we all know what's right for us. Individualism is important. As far as the people saying you're doing it wrong? Well, they don't know you. While my experience was the direct opposite as to yours, I can say that I am happy you are not feeling any pain. Keep doing what you're doing.
Excellent comment 🥳👍🥁
@@PortsladeBySea Thank you so much.
Max Weinberg is amazing and hilarious. I love watching him on Late Night and The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien
@@kiwiangeldust6912 Me too. I miss the old Late Night with Conan O'Brien show. The PSA's and The Poetry of Max Weinberg are hilarious.
Thank you for sharing. There is nothing to be ashamed of. I am happy that you found a solution to the problem. Many happy hours and days of drumming!
Good look finding a new studio & wish you great health!
Sina, thank you for sharing your struggles with others. I'm sure it will be very helpful to fellow musicians who may be physically suffering in the same way. Best of luck on your future projects. And, most importantly, keep on rockin'!!
Congratulations Sina on your move to London. I am so excited for you and I am sure you will have a great opportunity to grow as an artist and as a person. Thank you for taking the time to explain your move to traditional grip you do what you need to do to stay healthy and strong. Sina everything that is happening to you, you deserve your dedication and determination has paid off. I wish you the best. You keep jamming and I'll keep watching. Don't forget to keep smiling as well. Be safe.
Thanks for the explanation Sina, it must be a relief to have not much pain now.
Though for me, an explanation wasn't necessary. But i understand why you decided to share your story now, it must be a weight off your mind.
Enjoy London, lets hope you find a studio soon, and some talented musicians to make music with.
I'm glad your wrists are fine now and you are coming back to play the amazing drums! Good luck!
Buddy Rich, one of the greatest drummers of all time used traditional grip. Keep doing what you're doing Sina. You produce great content and you're a wonderful, heartfelt, talented musician. Cheers from Canada.
Also Canadian , ..Sina , could you cover 1940's "Sing , Sing Sing"? Terrific drum piece. Do it in black and white!!
Actually, both Buddy Rich and Gene Krupa occasionally used the matched grip when they were mainly playing the tom-toms. The traditional grip originated when drummers were marching as they played.
Good for you Sina! I am happy for you and this change and look forward to more amazing drumming videos on your channel! I wish you continued success!
Glad you didn't quit. I feel bad people were busting your chops about the switch in styles. I remember when you did it but never thought anything about it, as far as I could tell you never missed a beat or thought your work suffered. I think you're one of the best people in the world. I loved hearing you swear it made me laugh. Try not to let the negative comments get you down, do what's best for you, and create the music you love. I know I love most of what you do, if it's something or a cover by someone I don't care for. I just complement your effort and time it took to do the job. Congratulations on your move to London. I know it's what you wanted, happy for you. Sina, best of luck and take care.
I'm not a drummer, but I've been listening to you for a long time! I enjoy your sound. I recall you changing your grip and playing with it on your channel. I sat back and listened again because something was different. The sound was so crisp and precise, so I considered it a vast improvement. Thank you for sharing your story. Just keep on doing that thing you do! Always take care of your health!
Sina is both talented and brave ❤️🥁🥳
We all love hearing your drumming. Keep up the great work
Thank you! Very inspirational. It's almost as if these "My life is over" crises can be the very event to make our life better, if (as occasionally happens) we have the courage to step back and feel the bigger picture. Just as you so eloquently described. I needed this reminder right about now, so thank you.
Awe love your explanation and, most of all your drumming and your cool accent!!! Keep on rocking Sina!!!
So happy for you that you can continue doing what you love. Keep rocking and congrats on the move to London. Its a great city!
I’ve used both grips all my life in all styles of music and all volume levels. When I got into my early 40’s I started having pain in the joints of my fingers so I spent a few years learning to eliminate ALL tension in my hands and basically let the sticks float in my hands while I play which allows the mechanical energy/force to dissipate into the air rather than into my fingers/hands/arms (that took a lot of getting used to!). I’m 56 now and my hands feel fantastic and the sound I produce on the drums is bigger and fuller than it ever was before I revamped my grip. Best of luck in your drumming journey.
You're an awesome person and I'm so glad you were able to continue you're one of the best things to happen to music.
Thank you for sharing and best of luck to you in your new adventure!!
Enjoy your success. You play from the soul. You do for you! As age creeps,we adjust. I pounded skins less than 2 monthsback in 70's. Now,pushing 65. So refreshing to see. All the years.
Thank you Sina! Very inspirational and instructive. I hope your wrist heals eventually. All the best!
Glad you are feeling better and glad you are in the UK now.
Take care of yourself and use what ever grip works best for you, I will have to take a better look at my grip and how i move. It's cool that you are now in London where so much of the music I have listened to all my life comes from. I wish you lots of success in your new city and I look forward to all of your future videos, they have helped me so much in the past.
Sina, it doesn't matter which grip you use, your professionalism will carry the day!
Sincerely,
Andy, Annmarie's husband.
Sina - Thanks for the courage of sharing - I've always been impressed with your skill and obvious talent. As a pianist, one of the things I first learned was correct hand position, something that has translated into many other areas of my life. Enjoy your time in London, and best wishes on your musical and life journey.
I can't see the reason why people would bug you about the way you play... The final result has always been great, so it doesn't matter how you hold the sticks ! Good luck in London and best wishes from Brazil ! Keep on rocking !!
Wow, can't believe your grip would be criticized. You're a brilliant drummer!!
You demonstrated quite perfectly in your playing that traditional grip is just as powerful as matched grip.
Your example of Stewart Copeland is a great example of why traditional grip is cool 😎 👌🥁
Have a great time here in the Uk 🇬🇧 😀
Neil Peart would like a word. He switched back to match due to a lack of power.
Bonham wouldn't be Bonham with traditional grip.
I just love watching you. You look like you're having so much fun. Plus seem to be a natural at it. Thanks and don't put down your sticks for no one.
Sina, I never paid too much attention to which grip you were using. Some of the great drummers in music over the years switched grips depending on what the music called for. I took a drum camp years ago taught by a man named Ed Shaughnessy. For those that don't know, Ed was the Tonight Show's drummer. He preferred the traditional grip, but would use the matched grip on occasion. His take was, use whichever grip feels comfortable. Greats like Todd Sucherman, Buddy Rich, and Neil Peart use or used both grips. I'm glad you didn't quit drumming, and look forward to seeing you for years to come.
You’ve done more than any of those that find fault in your technique. I did notice the change when it happened but you never let the pain show or make excuses. Just love your music and hope to hear more success in your life! I think London is ready for you now.
Congratulations on your move to London! You've grown up so much since I first discovered your incredible drumming. I noticed that you kind of disappeared for a bit, so this makes sense about your wrist pain. I'm so glad you're doing better and enjoying the feel of traditional grip. Best wishes, Sina! 🥁
Thank you for sharing such a personal, sensitive subject with us. For what it's worth, I think the traditional grip looks cool - and it never held Buddy Rich back! I'm glad you're on the mend and that you found a solution that allowed you to continue doing what you love and are so good at. Also, your English is incredibly good!
Sina, you totally rock by following your heart and sharing this with your music. I'm proud to have been one of your (many) teachers at ArtEZ Arnhem and can't wait to hear and see more from your London-adventure. ❤🎶🌟
Wow, ein Lob von kompetenter Stelle 👍 !
Thank you also for being one of her amazing teachers. Your Art of the Trio performances with Sina at ArtEZ will I'm sure be wonderful memories for her from her time there.
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So ein toller Lehrer gefällt mir auch sehr gut.
Teacher 👌 !
Thank you so much Jasper, for all the wisdom and music you taught me!! ❤🎶🌟
@@sina-drums it was my pleasure!!!
I believe your playing will begin to reach new and higher levels and you have joined an elite core of great drummers who play traditional. Right on !!
Welcome to Britain, and you play how you want and we'll love it!
glad u ok use grip which serves best, i played drums my self many years ago , not gonna h8, your technique has always been outstanding, just rest when your bod says you need to, iam more guitar and bass, love jamming to your drum work as a work out thank you for what you do you have made my bass work and lead guitar work better)
I wish you all the Best Sina , Do not let anything get you down , Life is too short... do what you do that makes you feel better and Follow your heart and intuition , You do not need to explain to anyone but I am sure a lot of people can Appreciate it because not only are you an Amazing Drummer and Artist you are an Amazing individual. I have seen Amazing people who Drum with their Feet and they Rock. Rock and Roll will never Die , all the Best , The Rebel Yell Cover will Always be my Fav 🤘
I hope you are better now I used to play but I have started to get back but you are the best
i’m so happy you figured out the other grip helped with your pain and that you’re feeling better! you are doing what’s best for YOU! & enjoy your new adventures in London ❤
At 72, now, still drumming, I was taught in the 1950's the traditional grip. When I was younger it is all I used and I'm still using it today. When I do sticking practice, I always use traditional grip. On jazz tunes it is easier to do 5/4, 6/8, 7/4 signatures and some of the other syncopated beats with traditional grip. In the past 10 years on faster rock beats I find that switching to what I call over-hand grip (matched grip) is easier to get around the kit more smoothly and rhythmically with steady even beats on fills. As a right-handed drummer the last paid gig I did in 2018 for a three night stand in Nevada, I was beating my right wrist on hi/hat so hard on fast rock tunes, my wrist swelled up and had to ice it on breaks and use *coban wrap to continue the set/gig . It is my belief how one was trained and learned the 13 basic rudiments and the grip taught, is a discipline thing in playing. I began with classical orchestration symphony music and of course rock in my teens. More important than how one holds sticks is to learn music theory and be able to read music. The real gift is just being able to sit in cold on a song never played and be able to make it all sound professional just using what God gave you. You Sina, do a great job at that.
I am SOOOO glad for your testimony; I was for a while going to praise you for the traditional grip you started using. It would communicate that you appeared more professional and serious about your craft! I'm sorry I didn't comment positively earlier, as I guess I was too lazy to do so. I didn't realize that you received negative responses to the switch, and it bothered me that people would be so obtuse in their reactions. I also was happy to hear that you felt strongly about your choice and wasn't swayed by the ignorant public opinion! I have newly subscribed, and look forward to seeing more of you professional and personal growth as you move on in this venue! Thanks for what you are doing!
Thank you for all the great music over these years! Looking forward to more.
Glad you found a way that works for you Sina. It isn't good to be in pain doing what you love
Great success on your move to London. You are an exceptional musician, an exceptional person and strong enough to follow your own path; Play On!
You do what you gotta/wanna do! The only thing that matters is that you're happy about what you do.
I'm so sorry to hear that you had a lot of wrist problems, and I wish you good healing! It was very brave of you to keep this private and therefore not being able to share it with your audience. But all the while your spirits seemed to be high, you radiated happiness and you were very dedicated to the music - very strong! Congratulations on your openness now and for your bold move to London (but a bit sad that you had to leave your splendid house boat behind). I don't have a good suggestion on who to meet, but I loved to go to the Ritzy Cinema in Brixton. Enjoy London and all the best!
Glad you are feeling better. Happy that you moved to London. Meet as many ppl as you can as this could lead to some great connections and collaborations.
Thanks for the update and your openness. Honestly, I always thought it was your school in NL that forced you to switch, but I was wrong. Btw, you could also mention Charlie Watts from the Stones, he also played traditional grip.
Have fun and success in London, music has no borders - and give me a reason to fly over and see London again combined with a gig of you
Sina you're a. wonderful young Lady full of an incredible talent. Thank you so much for everything.
I totally get it. One of my heroes and teachers, Les Paul, the man himself, showed me what arthritis did to his hands... but shared the secret of getting emotion into his wrists and the night he played for us, he went from only one finger (and it was awesome) to two and then 3 fingers working. He looked me right in the eye from the stage and said, "this doesn't happen much these days.. but this is the power of our optimism" Everyone in the room was crying at his melody playing. ... we were weeping. He taught me that the power of music is the power of emotion, whether we are fully healthy, slightly sore of fully wracked with age, we can still bring beautiful meaningful feelings to people who love and need music. *** I remember when you switched to traditional grip, and I commented right away. I think I said that I loved the new FEEL you had. When you play matched you got a certain feel.. and when you switched you got a different one.. and they are both beautiful. Thank you for reminding me and inspiring me to keep making music no matter what the body does or fails to do. I'll be here for your next phase.
I was always curious about this. In fact, I almost asked about it in your last Discord livestream. Thank you for enlightening us. Please don't feel bad in any way. I mean, you can't help what your body does. Whatever works best for you! I'm sorry you had to suffer. Keep drumming the way you want! Looking forward to hearing about your future projects.
You do whatever works and pay no attention to anyone who criticizes in negative fashion. I love watching you play. Your execution of Inna-godda- davida just blew me away. Best of luck to you with your health, personal life and career. We here in the USA love you.
Grip doesn't really matter, it's the musician behind the drums that makes the difference. Since subscribing 8 years ago or so ago, you were already atop of the drumming game. Your ability to mimic and make the precise beats of legendary drummers says a lot of your skill. You're one of the best.
I had to do the same as a guitarist. I have switched from playing the acoustic guitar in holding the guitar sideways sitting or standing position. Now I hold my guitar in the classical position sitting or standing. Since I have made the changes my wrist doesn't hurt. And playing chords in strumming or fingerstyle is even better and easier. I too will stretch my fingers and forearms and warm-up with scales and Etudes for 30 minutes before I go to repertoire for three to four hours. You have been blessed by our Lord God with a wonderful gift to share.
Welcome to UK - hope you enjoy yourself!
Thanks for sharing and I'm glad to hear you're getting better! Health comes first, and you sharing your story hopefully helps others watch their bodies before it's too late. Also, it's never wrong to expand and learn new things. I'm consider myself still a beginner at the drums and still have lots to learn, but I have traditional grip and open handed drumming on my to-learn list, and be it only to challenge myself outside of my comfort zone. I wish you a fantastic time in London, it's a great city!
To be honest, I was always mesmerized by the extreme talent that I was watching, not by the way that you held the sticks. Keep doing what you are doing. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Sina, I am really pleased you have found the real issue with your wrists, and have been able to make changes that are giving you the freedom to drum the way you love to. I also have had ganglions, and needed to get one surgicallly removed as a child. They can hurt and are limiting, and that can be quite scary when you are so committed to a career that requires full movement like you are. Just great to hear about your new direction and location. I can't wait to see what comes next.
Thanks for the personal video. It is great to know a little more about you, which makes soaking up your amazing drumming even better!
Rock on, Drumming Lady! Viel Erfolg - und hoffentlich auch viel Spaß - in London! 👍💥
Thank you so much for sharing your story and I glad you're talking steps to protect your self against physical pain and discomfort. Gotta look out for yourself sometimes no matter what. I'm glad you didn't quit, it'd be an huge loss of talent and passion for the musical world. I hope your move to London serves you well and allows you to meet your dreams and goals for the future. Again thank you for sharing your story. Much love and respect to you.
I'm not a musician but have been following and admiring you for years. It was very heartwarming that you shared this intimate story with us. Thank you. Best wishes for your move to London, I hope all your dreams come true. From Backwoods Texas, USA
You go girl! Really a fan of your vids and joy of music that cames through.
Thanks for the update. You were born to play drums with excellence.
No one has a right to criticize how you play.
You have learned great lessons through your adversity and will continue to excel in what you do. Keep building on your great body of work!
Bless you for making this video, I've seen far too much hate for the traditional grip and never understood it. Seeing you fly on the kit with traditional grip is so inspirational! I'm a couple years into drumming and instantly found the traditional grip more comfortable for me personally, and started drumming with lessons with a Jazz drummer that encouraged it. I have had this constant mental battle to transition to matched grip because of videos and comments I see, but you've solidified my love for traditional grip. I wish you all the best, you have a new fan from the states. 😄
Keep up what you are doing , you are one of a kind.
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Wunderbar, Danke schoen
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Awesome explanation and new adventures ahead Sina, my best for your successful journey 🩵
I switched when I was diagnosed for Osteoarthritis in my left shoulder. It started when I would get shooting pains in that shoulder. I thought I could either try traditional grip or sell my kit and become strictly a hand drummer but I thought I'd give traditional grip a shot. It was clumsy and my strokes were weak for two years ( Online drum teacher Rob " Beat down" down said it takes four years to get comfy doing traditional grip). However I have gotten decent at it to the point where most musicians can't tell which grip I'm using). I lost a lot of my old tricks from the switch ( between the new grip and my messy shoulders I can't do a double crash hit very well now) but gained some new ones. I can't circle around the toms as easily but my fills have become more snare centric if you will and are more Jazzy overall plus I've gotten more into brushes and I truly think that traditional grip is the only way to get the nuances of brush work. I don't play out as much but I'm glad I'm still able to play, even if it's more for my own pleasure these days.
Sina you are fabulous as is your fellow musicians in all of your videos.
Welcome to my home city! Hope your wrists continue to heal, Ganglion Cyst can be very painful, so it is good you've figured out the cause and a solution to it. I love listening to your music. Looking forward to hearing more. London has a lot of music both past and current. But it is a hard area to get into. I just play music for my own enjoyment, but my son has been trying to get into the music business ever since leaving university, and still can't get a job doing what he wants. You probably have a better chance than he does, because of your UA-cam channel. So, good luck!
Thank you for everything! You just rock, Sina, Welcome to the UK. Several years of looking at your vids,....you are a stunning musician. Whatever you need to do to keep yourself healthy, is good by me. Love every post you have ever made.
I switch back and forth. Teaching students want for marching and left handed main right open playing. Getting the stick to take all the shock is the best. Glad you’re doing better. Missed seeing your vids.
Your drumming is awesome no matter which grip you use, Sina. Rock on!
Thank you for this information Sina you always treat your fans with true kindness and care, very fortunately for us through your love of music and your dedication to your craft you have brought us so much incredible entertainment over the years. Wishing you every success in London and looking forward to future projects 💕💕💕
Sina your the best, you do what is needed for your health, so you can carry on with your passion, your the best, and is a good warning to others to use the best grip for your drumming and listen to your body. I have no qualms with what grip you use, as it is none of my business or anybody else's, but i just to enjoy your music and commitment to your drumming. Do you still play Bass Guitar? love knowing your now residing in London. Good luck and best wishes and wish you well with success in London.
I have a background in the science of Kinematics from my work thirty years ago. It is a branch of physics that describes the relative motion of objects or groups of objects in a system. I remember seeing your previous work and thinking, "That's going to hurt someday." While I don't know much about drumming, I always thought that your style (pure directed power) and motion would reflect pain in your neck, the shoulder, and the nerves down into your wrists. I wish that I had commented on it. Be well!