How to Play 3-BET Pots When You MISS The Flop!

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  • @PokerCoaching
    @PokerCoaching  11 місяців тому +7

    What is your favorite hand to 3-bet preflop?

  • @geovaniraffaelli4508
    @geovaniraffaelli4508 8 місяців тому +2

    The BTN calling range agains the SB was an eye-opening moment for me. Thank you Jonathan!

    • @letsinvestigateit
      @letsinvestigateit 3 місяці тому

      That is a 3b calling range vs a gto bot not a human player. Your 3b calling range changes depending how aggressive your opponent is post flop. And then if they are aggressive and 3b to much you can start putting in 4b range and whether they call fold or shove you have to adjust accordingly. The solver is only solving vs what you are putting in as ranges. If your playing a nit who doesn't 3b a lot those 3b calling ranges are going to make you lose a lot of money vs that player. And most players these days are pretty nitty. The ranges are only that wide based on what he thinks their 3b range is. But again johnathan does't play cash games enough to know what ranges are for typical grinder in 2024. They are in general pretty tight and few laggy players but not as many cause they are trying to beat the rake using tighter ranges.

  • @ianclark2665
    @ianclark2665 11 місяців тому +24

    I have recently finished reading Jonathan's 'Mastering Small Stakes Hold'em' and 'Live No-limit Cash Games' and I can't recommend them highly enough. Especially, the 'Small Stakes' book as that is the game I play the most. I'm playing the best poker of my life, so I can't say fairer than that. Thank you.

    • @whosRickyy
      @whosRickyy 11 місяців тому +1

      Where can I read those?

    • @ianclark2665
      @ianclark2665 11 місяців тому +1

      @@whosRickyy I purchased both books from Amazon. I've recouped the price of purchase many times over.

    • @davidoberry5309
      @davidoberry5309 10 місяців тому +3

      I believe he’s one of the best for sure. You can tell he really wants us to win. He’s VERY passionate about training and it shows. He is my new go to Polk used to be. 👍🏼 I shouldn’t say new cause it’s been a minute but with bad health atm I haven’t been able to play but got some money coming and enough for a br so I will be grinding soon.

  • @tysonkennethlo3753
    @tysonkennethlo3753 8 місяців тому +2

    @pokercoaching why are my SB 3bet vs. button from GTO wizard so different and much more linear? my ranges are like A4s+, ATo+, KJo+ K7s+, Q9s+ and 3 betting about 14.4% of hands... im using cash ranges for 75-50 bb but the ranges quite different..

  • @DwightHayles
    @DwightHayles 4 місяці тому

    One of your best Jonathan - thank you very much! Great content - sorry it took me so long to get to it. And your darn funny throughout, maybe sometimes not intentional - but I find humor in your exaggerations. Thanks again.

  • @MikeStanto
    @MikeStanto 6 днів тому

    If you have the time, Can you do a lesson on button and utg staddles . It's very common here in AZ to $5 in a 1 /2 please.

  • @FrankOGStack
    @FrankOGStack 11 місяців тому

    Thanks Jonathan for the free content i just finish your tournement Masterclass and i always like to learn more and your Free youtube content are just perfect with my morning coffee
    Thanks for everything can't wait for the next one

  • @bibe94
    @bibe94 11 місяців тому

    @PokerCoaching on 6:39 shows that SC (54s,65s,76s etc) should range bet on flop BUT previously these hands are not in the BTN 3bet range.

  • @jesseclinton7779
    @jesseclinton7779 4 місяці тому +1

    Sorry if you touched on this and I missed it, but what happens in the off chance that you’re IP without the RA and your opponent donk bets you? Is it raise your best hands and draws, call most everything and fold the trash?

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 11 місяців тому +1

    Yep, I made it through. Your previous book has finally arrived Mr L!
    Looking forward to getting your latest one too, but stock in Australia seems limited.

    • @eman2517
      @eman2517 11 місяців тому

      What book? Ty

  • @charlottedawn7334
    @charlottedawn7334 11 місяців тому +1

    I love this lesson! ❤ Thank you for the excellent and informative content! Having the GTO solver charts is very helpful. And, I really like how you go through and explain them in detail.

  • @NaokiYamashiro
    @NaokiYamashiro 11 місяців тому +1

    Which contents on poker coaching do you teach the same topic but for deeper stacks like 100BB/200BB?

  • @TheDragonTuba
    @TheDragonTuba 11 місяців тому +2

    This all makes perfect sense to me as you brilliantly explain it. But how do i start to LEARN it?

    • @雪底下
      @雪底下 11 місяців тому +1

      Learn what? Things like range advantage? You can use equity calculators and study

    • @TristanSune
      @TristanSune 11 місяців тому +1

      It's hard to get started if you don't know where to look. How to know if a program is good or not etc?

  • @linus5885
    @linus5885 9 місяців тому +1

    great video, cashed my biggest online cash last week for 6,3k and wanted to say that your videos have been a big help and have improved my game significantly! Much love from germany

    • @PokerCoaching
      @PokerCoaching  9 місяців тому +1

      Congratulations!! I'm so glad I could help 🎉

  • @DavidTURNER-we4ek
    @DavidTURNER-we4ek Місяць тому

    Hello. Just bought the book and read a few chapters and coasted to 2nd place in a small stakes tournament! Won $145 in a $11 tournament. Thanks

  • @deviongants3724
    @deviongants3724 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video kinda rough but you have to make the sacrifice if you want to improve thank you and all your team for the time yall spent helping us improve and thumbs up 👍 keep up the great work

  • @MauiQ1967
    @MauiQ1967 11 місяців тому +1

    Always learning from shared experiences, thanks Jonathan❣️

  • @garyspear4480
    @garyspear4480 11 місяців тому +1

    Loved this video! I learned a lot. Thanks!

  • @andrewchisholm3476
    @andrewchisholm3476 11 місяців тому +1

    I keep thinking about a recent 3 bet flop I was in where I was the caller of the huge 3 bet, In the BB, w A Q suited. Flop comes Q 8 4 rainbow. SB bets half pot, I call. Then he 3x pots the turn on a brick. He had pocket 8s. I called pre-flop, the flop, and then shoved for a little bit more on top of his bet on the turn. What should I have done?

    • @schmariusapp
      @schmariusapp 11 місяців тому +1

      I think 3x pot (depending on what exactly the game is and what types of people are playing) is either a set, AQ or a pure bluff. I think i would fold sometimes but make the call most of the times with AQ. Stack sizes and ITM considerations might make me lean more towards one or the other side, but i just started playing so please do not roast me 😅

    • @schmariusapp
      @schmariusapp 11 місяців тому +1

      He might randomly have some suited 2 pairs like Q8s but pretty rarely

    • @schmariusapp
      @schmariusapp 11 місяців тому +1

      Assuming the 3 bet was very big as you said i think a set, AQ or overpairs are the most likely to be shown

    • @schmariusapp
      @schmariusapp 11 місяців тому +1

      But then there are many combos with a queen ypu are ahead of so i would say its still a call often because otherwise youre gonna get bluffed off your hand quite often

  • @joshr9503
    @joshr9503 8 місяців тому

    Looking at the 3-bet range for SB when button raises to 2.2, why are K7s and K6s always 3Bets? Is it to mix up the range? If so, I'd expect to 3bet those hands some portion of the time like K9s. Also does the range change vs something like the HJ vs the button?

  • @connorcrump3825
    @connorcrump3825 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jonathon I have seen in other videos and on your charts online that usually you say to either three bet in the SB or fold but in this scenario you had a calling range and three bet polarized. Is it because of the 60bb stack size or is this video assuming there is an ante? The chart I usually study is the 100bb cash game.

    • @PokerCoaching
      @PokerCoaching  11 місяців тому +1

      Adding an ante and no rake changes strategies a lot.

  • @gwhitener
    @gwhitener 11 місяців тому

    How would you all handle a monotone flop with same configuration as Jonathan uses (heads up OOP w/o RA like at 44:15) and you hold AsKd in the SB but flop comes Qh9h3h? Had this spot recently. Checked. Folded to a 1/2 pot size bet from a normal reg on the BTN. Nitty or the right thing to do?

    • @omarfromthewire603
      @omarfromthewire603 11 місяців тому

      I'd lead small, like 20-33%, cuz we have that Ah and Kh nut advantage and hope to just take it down there. I dont ever want to chk-call here, so ima go for it w the cbet. If I don't cbet? I feel like I'm surrendering the pot right there...Boom, you win. I 3bet pre and aired the flop, i give up. Which is fine, sometimes, but I'm going to at least try here..

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 11 місяців тому

      You were the OOP bettor or caller?
      From what I understand OOP would rather 4 bet then call.
      IP is more likely to flat.

  • @coryaw95
    @coryaw95 10 місяців тому

    Why is A3s at 11:31 for the LJ a higher 3-bet than A4s and A2s?

    • @miketang8719
      @miketang8719 2 місяці тому

      Higher kicker than A2s and suited gappers are just as good as connectors, A4s double gapper though is far worse

  • @comcast9216
    @comcast9216 11 місяців тому +12

    Thank you Jonathan. Need more post flop videos like this

    • @ImperiumLibertas
      @ImperiumLibertas 11 місяців тому

      Pre flop is so easy. Understand the odds and follow the charts. Play you're range. Standard bet size. That's it.

    • @comcast9216
      @comcast9216 11 місяців тому +5

      @@ImperiumLibertas that’s why I said “post flop” 🤣

    • @genisbartusiak8791
      @genisbartusiak8791 11 місяців тому

      @@comcast9216yeah someone needs to take a reading class which to me is super easy 🤣

  • @mortalcombata123
    @mortalcombata123 11 місяців тому

    In many scenarios it's GTO to bet big with total junk. Is that because we're unblocking the vilain's middle strength hands? On AJ9r I guess a 9 might fold, but probably all J and A continue, as well as some draws?

    • @brandonkellner2920
      @brandonkellner2920 8 місяців тому

      I don't know holdem that well, but generally in information games, you bet big with nothing to get your opponent to call you when you bet big and have something. Basically, you disguise your great hands.

  • @Food-Journeys
    @Food-Journeys 11 місяців тому +2

    This is exactly the video I needed right now!

  • @TheDonkanator
    @TheDonkanator 11 місяців тому +1

    Hope this reaches you .. I think it’s important to point out that as you move up in stakes it doesn’t mean that all the players get better . It mostly just means they have bigger bank roles . I believe most of the tighter players are playing in the lower and mid stakes . You don’t have to grind as hard or it won’t seem as hard because people with bigger bankrolls give more action more times than not

  • @ependis6972
    @ependis6972 11 місяців тому

    what are those combo below bet meaning?

  • @RecoveredRidleyTruther
    @RecoveredRidleyTruther 11 місяців тому

    Where do you see the bet size? You keep saying "this says pot size, shove, half pot etc., but it doesn't say thay anywhere. It just Says "Bet 512"... what the heck is a bet 512? 41:53

    • @ComebackKid-exe
      @ComebackKid-exe 3 місяці тому

      In the beginning of the video he says "just put a decimal before the last number" So bet 512 becomes bet 51.2 aka all in. I'm 7 months late and I can't be bothered to find the time stamp

  • @JohnDavidson-qu4eo
    @JohnDavidson-qu4eo Місяць тому +1

    I dont have a favorite hand to 3 bet but aa is good q10 j10 k10 a10 is good but no hand is a winner everytime so try to only bet big when you can afford to lose ❤so 3 bet when you have seen players who play any 2 ❤cards

  • @vsanden
    @vsanden 11 місяців тому

    If the flop is Ks2h3h which percentage of 45s will you bet? Only the 45h? This is unclear to me and also why; i think 45 is a nice hand to continue with.

  • @RecoveredRidleyTruther
    @RecoveredRidleyTruther 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Jonathan. Joining PC Premium has dramatically helped cut my learning curve down. High suggested to anyone, regardless of knowledge base, newbie or seasoned vet

  • @92Aleksander
    @92Aleksander 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! Found out I get run over when i check back flop IP as 3bettor. Time to plug the leak!

  • @Scottjf8
    @Scottjf8 11 місяців тому

    Curious how this compares to an MTT with similar effective stacks

  • @rubenchavarria2135
    @rubenchavarria2135 10 місяців тому

    Hi, i will like a video of how to combine poker with family, how you do it, i have 3 kids and a job, but poker is my passion, i go once a week or twice to play cash, but tournaments are too difficult to participate because of the time

  • @MrCguy24
    @MrCguy24 11 місяців тому +2

    It would be cool if there was more of a visual representation of the cards

  • @Pakodot
    @Pakodot 11 місяців тому

    This is really helpful. Thanks!

  • @manoelquirino5081
    @manoelquirino5081 11 місяців тому

    I didn't understood why Js-7h-3s is bad for our range when Ts-6h-3d is good. it's because of the flush draw? so Ts-6h-3s would be bad?

    • @henrybasilarabamad5537
      @henrybasilarabamad5537 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes I believe it’s because of the flush draw and potential back door straights.

  • @grandmasterkevv
    @grandmasterkevv 11 місяців тому

    Jonathan, In online micro stakes tournaments i usually get pretty far and usually have a big stack. But in cash games I do horrible...😢
    I do good in Sit n Go's also but my cash game sucks. I realized that I win more against players in tournaments because i have more fold equity in some spots and i apply lots of pressure. I guess im just better in tournaments and should take advantage of that.
    If i can beat micro stakes tournaments online, are live $100 tournaments beatable as well? I'd assume they play the same as online micro stakes tournaments

    • @jeffshackleford3152
      @jeffshackleford3152 11 місяців тому +1

      Generally the online pool is better than the live player pool.
      I would maybe go scout a tournament and see how they play.
      I only play cash games, so I wouldn't be able to tell you anything about tournaments, but 1/2 cash players are about equivalent to 5 or 10NL players online.
      The frustrating part about those games is the players are so passive, that you will have a hard time getting paid.
      They can be quite sticky and stationy though, so sometimes you can get paid.
      I would be willing to put a lot of money on the bet that...
      You would likely have an easier time convincing some of those players to allow you to pull one of their teeth with pliers than it is to get them to willingly put money in the pot.

    • @雪底下
      @雪底下 11 місяців тому

      @@jeffshackleford3152depends on the table, sometimes it’s people who just want to give their money away at 1/2 😂 once I flopped quads and this 18 year old goes all in with KQ into a board of 3/3/3 😂

  • @LIONTAMER3D
    @LIONTAMER3D 7 місяців тому +2

    You save money & fold, multi-way. Heads up? Stab occasionally, but don't get crazy auto-stabbing. That's it, don't overthink it.

  • @TheDonkanator
    @TheDonkanator 4 місяці тому

    Doing a cross country Donkey Tour I was able to watch the entire video .. Excellent work here Sir

  • @neopromise
    @neopromise 11 місяців тому +1

    Great teacher

  • @bobmcglone6676
    @bobmcglone6676 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Jonathan. Wish I had an “Ah ha “ moment when discussing ranges. Not there yet!

    • @davidoberry5309
      @davidoberry5309 10 місяців тому

      Ranges is nothing but a group of hands that someone (probably) has. Instead of thinking he has to have aces you need to think of a group of hands he could possibly have according to how the hand has played out so far and that players tendencies. Don’t overthink it cause there’s nothing to overthink. I used to not get it either just like everyone. Just think of what group of hands should be played in a certain spot unless the guy is aggro and that’s a range 🤷‍♂️ easy peasy. Kinda lol.

    • @Jondongalong
      @Jondongalong 7 місяців тому

      I had the same struggle. Eventually I realized it was logic more than anything. utg opening range is so tight because you are out of position and you want to have higher strength cards than your opponents before the flop. If you only play monsters utg you are in better shape than if you play anything and try to bluff high card flops, because it's likely that your opponents have a better starting hand than you. If you have aces and 3 bet and get 4 bet, you could assume they have KK or QQ, but you're dominating. If you 3 bet UTG with JJ and get 4 bet by someone in position, they most likely have KK QQ or AA. Obviously anyone can hit or miss the flop but at least knowing range and position gives you some information rather than just going by luck or feel.

  • @JeffKotz
    @JeffKotz 7 місяців тому +3

    After you told me to put on my adult pants, I knew it was too easy. Good stuff.

  • @Hellosir-uh5ek
    @Hellosir-uh5ek 11 місяців тому +1

    Now we need to know the turn and river for 3 bet pot when they call 😅

  • @jamesbowman913
    @jamesbowman913 7 місяців тому

    I don't really understand how we can be without the range advantage if we 3-bet and our opponent called?

  • @LePingouin92
    @LePingouin92 10 місяців тому

    Hi 👋 nice nice content 😊

  • @losyart
    @losyart 10 місяців тому

    I had a movie hand today 4way allin after flop 2 players with flush draws nut one and jack high one guy with nut str8 and one with top set. Nut flush won it was James Bond hand Cash game six max

  • @mcgaughey333
    @mcgaughey333 10 місяців тому +1

    Congrats on your recent PokerGo Cup Win.

  • @mastodon781
    @mastodon781 11 місяців тому

    Is there situation where you dont c bet flop HU oop?

  • @paulmossa2766
    @paulmossa2766 2 місяці тому

    Why is A5 always bluffing and not A6

  • @kaisaarnio7208
    @kaisaarnio7208 11 місяців тому +1

    Jonathan u been skiing lately? 😎

  • @carlr2438
    @carlr2438 11 місяців тому

    Good video

  • @arnekribeiro
    @arnekribeiro 10 місяців тому

    thanks coach

  • @flaviocrispim4720
    @flaviocrispim4720 6 місяців тому

    ty

  • @_GandalfTheGrey_
    @_GandalfTheGrey_ 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m at the level where i don’t even know all the terminology you are using. What is 3-bet? What is ‘out of position’? I know lots of the terms but not all of them.

    • @joshuabradley2105
      @joshuabradley2105 8 місяців тому

      The order of betting is Raise, reraise, 3 bet, 4 bet etc… It’s just the number in which they bet. I was confused when I first heard it too. Out of position is typically the person who is betting first. For example if you have the dealer chip you will typically be in position cause you bet later than most players.

    • @_GandalfTheGrey_
      @_GandalfTheGrey_ 8 місяців тому

      @@joshuabradley2105 so the person to the right of the dealer is out of position?

    • @joshuabradley2105
      @joshuabradley2105 8 місяців тому

      @@_GandalfTheGrey_ the person to the right of the dealer is only out of position relative to the dealer but in position to those In front of him.

  • @Dustin_Platt
    @Dustin_Platt 7 місяців тому +1

    Easy.
    _Play it like a set_
    - Tony G... probably

  • @nathanielcochrane9116
    @nathanielcochrane9116 10 місяців тому

    I made a grave mistake yesterday Teach.
    I had 10C7C
    Villain had AKo
    I had over 700K
    He had over 900K
    Blinds are 7k/14k
    I'm utg+2 I raise to 32k
    Everyone folds to the button who 3bets to 75k
    SB & BB fold
    I call
    Flop was 10D 3C 5S
    I raise 50k
    He calls
    Turn was 4C
    I check He raises 125k
    *I CALLED* 😮‍💨
    River is 2D
    *I SHOVE* 🤮
    *He calls and turns over his AKo*
    This hand is haunting me 😢

  • @Snowball_Earth
    @Snowball_Earth 10 місяців тому

    Hello

  • @connormacdonell732
    @connormacdonell732 11 місяців тому

    hello

  • @brianm1219
    @brianm1219 11 місяців тому

    22

  • @LifeisA_Dream
    @LifeisA_Dream 8 місяців тому

  • @TomRauhe
    @TomRauhe 11 місяців тому

    Take max advantage of being uncapped

  • @eonslimafoxtrotgolf1759
    @eonslimafoxtrotgolf1759 11 місяців тому

    Nice-J 10 s

  • @DavidTURNER-we4ek
    @DavidTURNER-we4ek 7 місяців тому

    Hey. I don't want any problems. 😂😂😂

  • @vandal280
    @vandal280 11 місяців тому

    Giggling at all the talk of the king highs getting naughty 🤭

  • @busfahrer09
    @busfahrer09 2 місяці тому

    You need sun lotion when you're hiking Johnny, never forget the lotion in Vegas!

  • @SamScaffide
    @SamScaffide 5 місяців тому

    Bringing Jamie Gold on board is a big mistake, big mistake

  • @fredsmith5074
    @fredsmith5074 10 місяців тому

    I'm still trying to figure out what in the hell does range advantage do against someone who doesn't know the first thing about ranges or just doesn't care about GTO.

    • @andyroid9
      @andyroid9 9 місяців тому +1

      I wonder this myself

  • @stanleycarvalhof
    @stanleycarvalhof Місяць тому

    Where do the americans play? I don't see them at pokerstars

  • @kenrobinson1188
    @kenrobinson1188 10 місяців тому

    You seem like a class act....how'd you get involved with the degenerates (poker players)?

  • @parkerkip6599
    @parkerkip6599 3 місяці тому

    This is huge issue for me

  • @linus5885
    @linus5885 9 місяців тому

    i m still awake :)

  • @Fable892
    @Fable892 8 місяців тому

    Not sure what my opening comment range should be when the youtuber puts me under the gun.

  • @bekipoo1197
    @bekipoo1197 11 місяців тому

    This ranges don’t help in 1/2 games and against bad players there no ranges there haha

    • @kezman82a
      @kezman82a 11 місяців тому

      Its your job to find out what range they got.

  • @owenpfaff627
    @owenpfaff627 5 місяців тому

    I am awake

  • @E-Long-Muck
    @E-Long-Muck 11 місяців тому

    Dont use guns, people can misunderstand haha
    JK

  • @JohnDavidson-qu4eo
    @JohnDavidson-qu4eo Місяць тому

    Of course this is for table players n does not apply for wpt online play LMAO 🤣 people go all in with 23 on sites so ????❤

  • @ryandarby1538
    @ryandarby1538 18 днів тому

    hello