DCS: Chinook CH47F Pre-order is here, but what can you do with it?
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- The DCS Chinook CH47F is now available for pre-order with a release date of 26th June 2024. If you're like me you've either got it ordered already or you're about to! This aircraft I believe will be a game changer for DCS World, especially in multiplayer which I enjoy and think is the best part of DCS. But I'm sure there's plenty of people who are undecided or on the fence and are wondering, what can you do with this aircraft? So in this video, using the new pre-order video and documentation I explain the various roles and capabilities of this amazing heavy lift helicopter and try and determine what the DCS version can/could do from what we've seen so far. I know they say more information will be released before it comes out:
*All info freely available on the internet*
The roles the real-life Boeing CH47 Chinook can perform are:
Cargo - external - multi hook (Under slung loads - 'sling loads')
Cargo - internal:
Troops
Cargo
Parachute drops
Vehicles
Forward refuelling - FARP/FARE
Special forces
Fast roping
Water landings - Helicasting
Long range
Pinnacle landing
Night Ops
Air to air refuelling - mid-air refuelling - Certain variants only e.g. MH47 of the 160th SOAR
Can you think of any more?
What do you think the release version will include?
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Soldiers conduct sling load operations with a CH-47 Chinook at Petrochori Training Area, Greece, Oct. 10, 2022.
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Night Exercise
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U.S. Army paratroopers jump out the back of a CH-47 Chinook helicopter during a joint parachute training jump near the city of Pordenone in northeast Italy, July 16, 2013
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U.S. Army paratroopers jump out of a Boeing CH-47 Chinook during airborne operations in support of Operation Skyfall USA
U.S. Army Soldiers assigned to B Company 3-82 General Support Aviation Battalion (WDDRB0), 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C., participate in a training exercise on how to employ the versatile extended range fuel system, known as the “fat cow”, name in reference to the large CH-47 Chinook helicopter
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Members of Echo Company, 1-189th General Support Aviation Battalion were tested on their proficiency at setting up and manning Fat Cow Operations on November 2, 2019. The exercise uses a CH-47 Chinook as a portable refueling system called a Fat Cow.
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Members of the 321st Special Tactics Squadron, RAF Mildenhall, U.K., fast rope out of a 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, Fort Campbell, Ky., MH-47 Chinook helicopter
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A special forces noncommissioned officer from 1st Battalion, 10 Special Forces Group (Airborne) rushes toward the ramp of an MH-47G Chinook helicopter for a fast rope insertion - Ігри
The CH-47 is so useful that the Aussies used their budget allocation for more C-27Js, to buy more CH-47Fs after their experiences with them in Afghanistan. They made the case to the Gov't that the CH-47s were actually more useful than the shorter C-130Hs and the smaller C-27Js in the battlefield. In the end, the Gov't decided to buy both CH-47s and more C-130J-30s. The sheer utility of the CH-47s even caused a re write of doctrine where the CH-47s took on the tactical support role of the old C-130H and newer C-27J models (which were the replacement for the Caribou), and the C-130J-30s took on the Theater support role. They can operate at much higher altitudes with heavier loads than the UH-60Ms, which struggled to carry more than four troops to mountain tops in Afghanistan. This new DCS module looks like it's going to be a lot of fun.
In real life maybe but what use is it in DCS without properly simulated infantry and ground forces?
I'm a Chinook maintainer in the armu, I'm still in AIT and learning my job, but I love to see it being added to DCS, its a real beautiful aircraft
Hanging out at Fort Useless, huh?
@@hook86 yup, living the life rucking and being a phase 5
you can call yourself something when you finish. make the most of it and have fun!
In Sweden we used a Boeing Vertol 107 to hunt for submarines with sonar
"Just don't tell the maintainers you've done it" possibly the best thing I've heard this month.
great breakdown and coverage!! Yes, I am looking forwards to this.
Thanks for the feedback!
It sounds really cool, but without logistics fixes and ground AI improvements, I don't see it being fun in multiplayer. Right now we're all relying on user mods and scripts to fake logistics actions, resupplies, etc. and loading/unloading troops is just horrible without CTLD.
Yeah, someone would need to actually use the script options to create a CTLD 3.x that utilizes all the new logistics features to add or remove weapons/fuel/ammunition/equipment from the FARPs, Warehouses and airports... ED has added a whole set of logistics features to the script engine in DCS World 2.8 last year. 😉
If I can potter around in my Huey then I'm sure a Chinook will be better, but yes there's the extra gameplay/mechanics side of things which will truly allow the Chinook to show it's full potential.
Erm herc can load individual weapons around and resupply an air base, see gray flag. Using the already unbaked system of the warehousing, click onto any airbase in the game and select resources at the bottom.
CTLD is also pretty diverse itself even. For Example how different servers add weight or not add weight to the helo when using troops / crates. This really needs a more standardised system that still is fun to use (not needing 100 crates to ship an Abrams Ikea style for example)
totally agree ctld is a good stop gap but it cant remain as the way things are done .this bird needs to actually be able to pick up psychical vehicles an move them around otherwise there is no point buying it, The huey can do everything via ctld already this has to be better or just no point
I might buy it when it’s in sale im going to be far more picky with DCS pre-orders
need better infantry like arma style
Yea I really hope this is coming the the troops are immersion breaking as they are
cold war chinook is coming in arma 4, cant wait
Am i the only one who'd love the A model and analogue gauges ? Pre purchased anyway. Ex 7 Sqn Erk.
I glad to see more helicopters in general, that should be added. This will really round out the gameplay and the C-130 will also be a welcome sight. Sometimes you just want to do logistics, not duke it out with the enemy. It’s why I fly MSFS, to get away.
Do we know if it will be multi crew yet?
@@fatal8446 nothing on that yet, but I would think it will be. Maybe not on release.
Too right mate! Sometimes I just want to fly around and do other things.
C-130 is already in the game. ED just wanted to make money on it so put an end to the free mod.
Mission profiles for troop insertion into contested territory aren't dissimilar to bombing anyway...
Advise against preordering anymore DCS modules. We've seen no evidence of what we can do with this there's a lot of the cockpit still to be done.
Devs have been abusing the early access and preorder as of late to release half baked product
It's a personal choice for sure. Regards the cockpit, the only panel I don't recall seeing is the overhead panel, but that's not that complicated and has no indications, only switch panels really.
Finally, a reasonable comment on this upcoming release.
I am so sick of early access with DCS. We don’t even know what’s going on with the f15E at this point yet people still willing to shell out for it.
It won’t end though. ED said they wouldn’t be profitable without early access
@@Rokaize It's a personal choice, and people should be allowed to enjoy a new module coming to DCS. If people don't want to pre-order then they can wait and see how it goes, no harm in that.
I'm going to because 1. I'm gonna get it anyway. 2. I'm so invested in dcs not to. If daddy gray wants my 50 bucks he has it. 3. I enjoy doing logi in my servers so this is a welcome addition, even if it has a few kinks.
@@ChrisUK27 The more people pre order the longer this game will be in the poor state it’s in. Pre orders do not incentive ED to fix the base game
Buen video, gracias!!
Thanks!
I've read the CH-47F is no longer allowed to do water landings, as the modernized avionics bays in the bottom compartments would have an immensely high risk of water damage to vital components.
The older analogue versions could water land, but required preparation and a thorough check and maintenance each time, as water inevitable found its way into the hull...
Water would find its way up to the pilot’s feet during water exfil operations.
@@AndrewS-ht3uo - They fit a 'Dam' inside the forward part of the cabin to prevent water flowing up to the front.
@ChrisUK27 yep, and that kit had a very high failure rate...and when it failed it trapped water behind it.
@@ChrisUK27 they had them on the D model's -17 but never used them.
you gotta basically rip up the entire floor after every water landing
Most of the things you mentioned are not shown and if they were possible they definitely would be.
We didn’t see multiple items slung, nor did we see a close up of what was being slung. We didn’t see parachute drops or animations for troops walking on or vehicles driving in. We didn’t see the chopper actually land on the tanker ship. We didn’t see fast roping or water landings.
The version of if I remember correctly is a niche Italian version with maybe a 24 versions produced.
It will be an Mi-8 with some extra forward farp capabilities, A2A refuelling and a glass cockpit. Still very interesting but people should manage their expectations.
The 1 thing i think we will still struggle with is rooftop landings when ever i do a 1 skid landings on the edge of buildings like the marines do the skid blows of or the building blows up .
i asked ED about the 3 hooks an will we get full use as expected ie vehicle lifting an multi hook loads as all we've seen so far is the single rope gun that we already have in the editor an the answer was if we can do we will.
so i think its safe to say we don't have it yet but we will down the road a bit. The troops thing i think is a lot closer if not already in testing but will have to wait an see .
I'm really looking forward to it
Agreed, without the guidance of someone in the back will be a challenge, almost needs a 'Jester' type rear crew for those situations.
The CH-47F is a minimum 3 man crew per the -10-2. So having a crew member to call you onto loads or pinnacle landings (the same as rooftop) would be immensely beneficial.
@@ChrisUK27 hello Chris, I totally agree with you. We need a Jester Crewman. Looking forward to flying the CH47 in DCS. I am currently a CH47 pilot in the RAF (exchange officer) and I am very glad I will be able to continue to "fly" the beast after my tour is over. Keep up with your videos
@@damcopter - The Miltech version in MSFS uses a hover-meter of sorts to account for this, the load shows up as a red dot and you manoeuvre over the top of it for 5-10 seconds, no audio guide.
yes it will just be a big huey to start with but I'm sure well get multi hook loads an so on down the track
Thanks for this! Great vid.
Thanks!
"What can you do with a CH-47 in DCS?"
I CAN FLY IT! PERIOD. 😊
Fat cow is what I want because the idea of having a fuel point were fighters and others could land refuel and then continue mission for like a long distance ones sounds really great to me
While I admire your enthusiasm, anything SOAR related is not likely to make its way into DCS any time soon. That's one of the reasons, as I understand it, why an AH-6 hasn't come to DCS despite being a simpler airframe than any other helo in DCS. Also, those SOAR Chinooks aren't CH-47s, they're MH-47s and it's a little more complicated than just throwing a IFR boom on the front of a CH-47F, some bigger sponsons on the sides and "Hey presto, Special Forces!".
Some of what you hypothesise could be achieved though. Just have to wait and see come June.
Ordered it, cant wait to fly it in Greyflag servers
I've not tried those yet, any good?
@@ChrisUK27 the server is a banger
Thanks for the video.
I understand all the comments about lack of info regarding it's capabilities, but I'm a major Chinook fan, so I've pre-ordered, coz I'd buy it whatever! (I used to work on them when the RAF first got them)
Im going to wait till the last day to preorder. Was really hoping the Kiowa would come first but I guess not.
Love the Nookie! How would this play out on Servers (e.g., 4YA)?
a nice round up of the capabilities & in-game options for operating this long awaited airframe....
looking forward to giving the big girl a run, in Aussie livery of course
until we see some better ground unit (particularly infantry) animations etc. we will be a bit restricted on the 'SF' style elements.
beyond being to fast-rope troops into place, if its a big enough are to land, the de-bus is far quicker.
I like how the F model entered service after the M60 machine gun was removed, and yet they are in the doors on this video
The RAF still uses M60's although mostly on the ramp with M134 on the sides.
Anyone remember the Hawk and how the people who bought that in good faith were all looked after so well.
You could use a pop filter my brother. Looking forward to this module!
Yeah, I have a real basic mic on my headset, might well have to invest in something more suitable for the job.
I am so happy that CH47F will be released! I love transport helicopters and the Chinook is No.1 on my list! This is truly great times to be a helicopter simulator pilot :) And yes I will buy the sexy Kiowa aswell! The amount of work and detail in the Kiowa in mind-blowing!
I've got my eye on the Kiowa too, recent look inside the cockpit was pretty cool.
although i would really love the mh-47 i highly doubt that will come to dcs because of its classified system. but i do hope they can find another way to implement AAR to the chinook
Hopefully a modder has got their eyes on it.
You forgot to mention "Livestock" carrier for the Ghurkas... O.o :)
What I like most is it's a fly-by-wire hybrid. In the real thing, it's mechanical input so the inputs feel like traditional helos but how it handles is different. Move the stick left and the Chinook moves left. Move the stick back to center and the Chinook stops moving left. No counter input to stop movement. Stick forward won't require more collective to keep altitude. The APAS system takes the inputs to know what the pilot wants and then does the remainder of the work. This cuts down on training time and will make it a lot easier to learn for us Sim-Pilots.
The CH=53K is the same way. Look up "CH-53K fly by wire demonstration" to get an idea of how they handle different than traditional mechanical helo controls.
Last time I checked, they have flight control linkages not fly by wire. There are 4 axis going into an ILCA(integrated lower control actuator) system in the flight control closet which then goes up into the second stage which goes from four flight control linkages into two linkages. From there it goes to the front and aft swashplate via control linkages, pitch and swivel actuators, and then up to the PC (pitch control) links, and so on. They also have Advanced Flight Control Systems (AFCS) computers that assist/intagrate with the flight controls, another long topic I won’t go over. I could go on and on but hopefully you get the idea.
@@scottv3337 I was at Sun n Fun Aerospace Expo this past weekend and the pilot there was showing me that all the linkages go to a computer now. The CH47F was the first military helo to get the system. The linage goes to a box behind the left pilot's seat that he pulled the cover off of and showed the linkages going to it. He was explaining to me how it changed the handling to how I described above.
You misunderstood him. The links go directly into the ILCA’s which work with the AFCS, but the linkages go all the way to the rotor system. I use to be an instructor at the CH-47 school and have worked on both the D and F models. Trust me, there are linkages all the way up. To long a subject to explain extensively all the in’s and out’s. You can easily google CH-47F flight control system and clearly see all the linkages even on top of the tunnel running alongside the drive shafts.
You definitely have to put in counter cyclic to halt movement unless your native modes are active. She can be a dream to fly, but there is a reason CH-47Fs go to the top of the class OML and not the bottom like the 60 and 64.
@@theshawnmccown @scottv3337 - Is correct, DAFCS has made flying the aircraft 'easier', however the physical flying controls are pretty much unchanged from previous versions.
If they do no combat mission then Fire fighting also the interior decked out for trama medivac would be nice
I want to get into dcs to fly this, and I don't have any head tracking. Would I need that for flying the Chinook in your opinion?
I'm sure there's endless Reddit post etc. on this but my take is that VR is made for helicopters, your head is on a swivel most of the time, same for many other aircraft. So yes you can switch the view with the joystick stick-top but it's not ideal and your views are limited to its range of movement. If you're not planning to go VR then there's plenty of head tracking kit out there, this is also probably a cheaper option. Personally I favour VR as for Situational Awareness it's ideal and the immersive gameplay it brings it can't be beaten.
@@ChrisUK27 Thank you for your response! I have a quest 2 and didn't realise that was an option. thank you once again 💙
I hope they also give us the option to build something like the ACH-47, even tho that was only done to the A model
Only role I can think you missed was MERT not sure if this could be implemented in DCS though
You can already do CSAR with Huey etc. whilst not exactly the same its similar, so yes good shout 👍🏻
Its not for me but if it adds to the player base and leads to better scenarios and the grail. The campaign generator Im good. :)
At this stage your EA is getting you helicopter you can probably fly and if it hooks into the logistic systems that ED has provided it will do nothing.
Only through 3rd party developers does the logistic system work in DCS (CTLD, Moose & MIST) so I'm expecting it to work with that but only if the mission makes add it in.
Jtac team insertion?
I hope the avionics are realistic
Yeah, let's see the new logistics system first.
Do we know if it will be multi crew?
Almost certainly. They went back and added it to the HIP and Huey so I can’t imagine this not being multicrew.
What I'm planning to do with it is to ignore it. At least until they'll say AH-64D is finished.
By then CH47F should be in quite advanced state.
And then you can fly around trying to catch up with the Chinook ;-)
@@ChrisUK27 Catch up is the name of my game.
I like to think I'm fortunate because I started with DCS not long ago. I spent most of the time in Ka-50 and a little in AH-64D and SA-342 variants. I'm yet to set up controls for utility helos, so I didn't even bother buying Hind.
@@dienicy The Huey is fun and perhaps worth downloading in the trial format to see if you like it, you can fit Miniguns and rockets to scratch that 'I want to hit some targets itch'.
@@ChrisUK27 Yeah, I got Huey and Hip. I just didn't had time to get into these yet. Good logistics will probably change my mind though.
However, I would like lighter machines, so I'm looking forward to Kiowa while Little bird would be just awesome.
@@dienicy - Huey is pretty simple all things considered. A little bird would be ace!
I want to see a ch47 mission of extracting the hind
Nice now even bluefor have a better transport heli than redfor...and outclasses them on everything
But what can you do with it... when the enemy ground AI is laser accurate because it's ancient code from Lock On?
The same stuff you do in the Huey or Mi-8, just better, faster and higher! 😇
I have always been fascinated by this chopper, but I'm very much on the fence about buying this module. I've become slightly jaded from buying early access modules in the past. I'm just not sure what I can do with this chopper in dcs world.
dcs need alot fixes frst, last important is modules😢
FASTEST PRODUCTION HELICOPTER IN THE WORLD! 🤘
Nice video.
Not preordering. Also as of now, since i have the Huey and only play multiplayer, the only real advantage i see is a faster speed.
I wonder if they could do a Rapid Dragon thing? Maybe 4 on a pallet?
Possibly but I’m not sure it would be worth it for the limited numbers it could carry and the altitude it would have to deploy them at.
They dont do water landings with the newer model chinooks.. many of the flight control systems electronics are now under the floor of the aircraft and dont really appreciate the salt water bath
Yes that's correct, rather they perform helicasting and the like. DCS wise they might still let you do it.
I’m excited for the chinook but I’m feeling a lot of red flags about this release. I’m sure it’ll be great eventually but I’m betting on rough release.
Hello! What the red flags are for you? Im mostly concerned that there is not a proper logistics system for it to be used in its max potential.
@@ankilo5519 m60 in the window of an F model. The cautions displayed on one of the screens while it running imply the systems aren’t worked out yet. There was at least one typographical error on a panel. I’ve flown CH-46s and sat in a few 47s but never flew one. But somethings that are hard to put a finger on didn’t look right. Taken with the Razbam ED payment Drama and the weird release model they have for Afghanistan I’m worried they’re in financial trouble and rushing this one out the door. This does not look like it’s two months from release. I hate to say it because it’s rude but it’s either going to be a train wreck or they are planning on delaying the release already. I’m going to wait for this one to be reviewed before buying. Apache, Hind, and Mosquito have all been good releases so hopefully I’m wrong.
@@ankilo5519 I’m sorry I answered your question but my post was deleted and I have no idea why! I didn’t say anything rude or inappropriate so I don’t know how to edit it for approval. But if your scroll down someone makes some legit criticisms that were similar to mine.
@@Fred-rv2tu Maybe it was an automatic delete? Sometimes that happens.
Anyways thanks for answering althoug it was deleted haha
@@Fred-rv2tu - No edits from me (OP), maybe a YT thing?
Take my money
I don't see the point in buying this when the embarking never seems to work in this game.
Please stop falling for these scams. Just stop pre-ordering and buy it when it's out.
Well, that’s all well and good if you don’t want to take advantage of the pre-order discount. It’s not a scam, and nobody is being forced to pre-order.
I'm getting it regardless, so buying at a 30% discount seems like a good idea to me. Personal choice.
@@pauljrixthe pre order sale that will also be the summer sale and Christmas sale?
@@Mandatoryuser It won't be in any of those sales this year. I really don't understand why some people get so torqued about Early Access..bottom line, if you don't like EA then wait to purchase, but it seems very bad form to be telling others when they should, or should not, purchase a product. In fact it makes me just want to pre-purchase even more out of principle.
Same preorder discount 1 day before release. I'll be doing that so ED have more time to showcase why we should preorder it
160th isnt using a CH-47F, its using MH-47G
Correct, but there may be Mod options?
Why a glass cockpit when an earlier variant would fit with more battlefield… from Vietnam to today’s environments!!
I’m sure it’s something they looked at but the constraints could be the information that’s available to them. I’m no software guy but creating a D model for example from the F I’d say is possible, physically they’re very similar, some may not even notice the differences. The cockpit and how it flies (Analogue AFCS) would be the challenge I think.
Sorry Im not going to have a Hip fly for the US Army. We need a blue heavy cargo helo. also need a CH-53 for the Marines
US used them to supply troops in Afghan and several NATO partners operate them.
I don't think that the regular ch47 has the capability to refuel mid air. Also I don't think the gun is accurate, the only gun I've seen mounted are the m240 for the CH version.
Yeah I’ve seen M240s for the door guns but on the RAF Chinooks they do have an M-60 for the rear door gun. I don’t know if that’s the same in the U.S.
the 160TH SP use a moddified version of the CH-47F that can have bigger side fuel tanks and the air refuel capability, all their systems are made for their mostly night hot drops and special ops, they also use miniguns. aka the cool shit
What you can do with your purchase is... nothing. You can wait for an actual product to show up. Right now, you're paying for the privilege of waiting.
The pre-order "features list" doesn't actually promise you *anything*. The features promised are literally limited to "it'll have a 3d model, it'll fly, and there will be a cockpit". But there are no specific promised features. Will it actually have any logistics system? Who knows, it's not promised anywhere, so they don't really owe you much of anything.
The video has a lot very conspicuously missing from it. You can't really see any avionics or displays actually working. They never shoot the guns, and it's not clear if they can be crewed, or if they just put the "camera" behind a non-functional model of the gunner station. Nothing actually is shown in the process of mounting or dismounting (or loading or unloading) the helicopter.
The sling loads you show at around 1:38 are all the same object by the way: they're M119 105mm howitzers, just some are rotated to different angles. Interesting there's no humvees in that lift (to tow them once landed) or ammunition bundles. I wonder if anything else has been modeled for sling loading yet.
Edit: Absolutely nothing of the fat cow fueling capability has been shown *in game* whatsoever. It's all theoretical at this point; we haven't seen it being done in the game, we haven't seen any 3d models of it, and the early access feature list doesn't include it (or anything else, really). Stop counting chickens before they've hatched; we have no reason to have any confidence that capability is or is not coming. Same for fastroping: we have seen zero indication it will be a capability in the game.
That was the aim of the video, what can the Chinook do in the real world verses what have we seen so far, which you could pose for any aircraft module in DCS. I'm certainly not expecting all of this to be there day one, some may take months/years, what I'm looking forward to is flying a Chinook in DCS, something we can't do not, barring Mods.
In the Eagle Dynamics info this is what they say:
Highly detailed external and internal modelling, including cockpit and cargo hold - Good
Unmatched helicopter flight dynamics that only DCS can provide - At the moment the Miltech version in MSFS isn't right, so I hope this gets it right first time!
Fully interactive, VR-ready cockpit - I fly VR
Full set of features will be announced prior to early access release - I can live with that
I love the chinook. I built some in stormworks, flyout and flew the shit out of it in Arma 2 and 3 and I'd love to fly it in DCS, but as things stands, it is useless without CTLD, MIST, and even then, it just feels VERY HALF BAKED. I would've instantly bought it a couple of years ago when I still had faith in ED fixing core game mechanics, but right now, honestly, I'd feel like an idiot for spending another dollar in the newest shiny thing while I see no significant work being done in the modules I already own (F/A-18, UH-1H, Supercarrier, Combined Arms), and the core game itself... If someday ED decides to treat me with some respect and resume working on the features they reneged, then this will definitely be a MUST HAVE for me... For now, I'm really tired of getting crumbs.
Expect Disappointment
Pronounced shee-noo'k :)
No it’s Cab. 😀
jesus..........................................
There’s no legitimate use for this module AT PRESENT apart from learning to operate/fly. I’m not paying ED for development time as they work out a use for this over months years. I’m tired of DCS pre-order BS
2 reasons not to buy:
- pre-order now, we'll tell you the features later !!!
- I'm not buying anything until they ED pay Razbam what they owe them.
So you're taking Razbam's side. OK, great. But we don't know what really happened. The other third-party developers don't have any problems. So it could also be that Razbam didn't do their job and therefore didn't get paid. The thing is. We don't know.
@MrDagobert666 Razbam didn't get paid for any module for the last 9 months.
In the meantime, they provided support for current modules, delivered F-15E and regular improvements on this module.
So no matter what the matter is, not paying Razbam out of proportion and it's a death sentence.
The F-15E was a solid early access launch with good follow-on updates, the sales were probably very successful and Razbam didn't get paid for it.
like mrdagobert666 said you have no idea what happened nobody but ED an razbam know that ED didn't just not pay them if that's even what happened for no reason infact ED said razbam did not adhere to the contract . so are you going to back a side that breaks the rules then complains about the consequences. you only back razbams side because that's all you've heard . an that's another failing on razbams part the public should never have been told the private dealings of a contract ever. shody business practices an careless PR like dealing with a fargone child packing a tantrum
Literally just a big Huey in terms of what you can do with it in DCS. It doesn't really bring anything special to the game.
Annoying sounds, sorry...
Sorry about that, I have a really basic headset, might have to invest in something better!
ED is famous for teasing things that takes years and years to appear or never appear …. It is extremely poor.
It is (shi-nook) not Chin nook
Anything but Shin-ooook and I'm with you, anyway it's a Cab.
@@ChrisUK27 The Ch is pronounced Sh
@@stephendecatur189 - Nope, it’s called a Cab 😀