@@Kermilion-xc3rg since I play Su-27S so well, I think this fighter is actually fun to play. However it only has 48 countermeasures, kinda suck a little bit :(
@@yuricuber6212 the 48 countermeasures are large caliber so use flare or chaff strategically then again most of the warthunder air rb players can't and rather spam flare and chaff
Let me remind you that the R-27R/ERs in the game are also nerfed. IRL it has the function of launch before target lock, and it can receive updates on target location from the mothership via datalink, i.e. be guided via TWS. It won't be imbalanced because all fox-3s already do it in game.
@@dragonlord2451 About R-27 or the fox-3 in game? Absolutely all missiles whose statcard says “Guidance: DL (i.e. datalink) should work this way. As for the R-27ER specifically, I heard that it even managed to make one air kill during the civil war in Yugoslavia. But at the moment in the game only Fox-3s work this way. There is a video on MiGan Fox-3 UA-cam channel that demonstrates it with explanations.
Funnily enough, the vikhrs in the Su-39 seems to work like that. Maybe it is bug but you can datalink at maximum two Vikhrs to two different moving ground targets
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y No laser required. I have videos on my channel showing it. The Vikhr follow only the radar lock of the TGP isn't enslaved to the radar.
They are the same br because of br compression, loads of planes the same br even though some are much better than others but not good enough to go up a battle rating.
I actually got to know his channel by a guy commenting on his profile picture in the comment section of a brazilian youtuber (in portuguese). I know this guy is just like me, except that he is way better in air RB than me.
Holy... somehow I think the kill at 7:27 is sooo impressive, the patient to strike at the perfect timing with R73 and dodged the incoming missile.... just perfect!
@crzyspirit literally the first half of the match you gotta let everyone waste their missiles then you start popping up taking out all those stupid f14s
The 27ER is still my favourite missile in the game, it's amazing how strong it is. Too bad this, the Su27, the J11A, F16A, F15A , F14s and MICA-less Mirage 2000 can't have their own matchmaker, those games would be great
This is currently my favorite plane, and maybe the one I have most final blows with. This is the plane that wins games for me. The way I play it is that I stay passive and defensive early game, maybe take on people far out on the flank, then when most people have used their missiles I go aggressive. Since I have so many of them s they can usually not handle that pressure.
Karma I’m a massive fan of u and I thought I might ask have u got any tips for grinding usa air tree also I don’t play sim only rb tysm if u do give tips bro
Getting used to dodging missiles takes a lot of details and discipline, some people take a while to get the hang of it, and ping does affect it, as long as you have high ping, the lower the ping, the easier it is to dodge the missile, the timing of when you actually fire the countermeasure is even affected until it registers on the server
I need you to do a video on positioning and early game air RB because I have everything else down, the missiles, flareing, notching, BVR, I just can’t get my early game positioning down
maybe you could show what the Swedish JAS39C looks like in the new update. As a Gripen player, I think that the addition of the Eurofighter and Rafale harmed the effectiveness of this Swedish fighter.
I have a question I can't really find the answer to for example 13:47 target is locked, the lines on right side are top max range 2nd line target range but idk what is the half square means and how important is it?
11:28 , 11:48 Hello Karma, how did you manage to avoid those radar missiles? I mean, i can see you're rolling but which conditions must present in order to pull it off? Like do you have to be above the missile launched at you or will it work even if you're under the missile launched at you? Do you have to point your nose at that missile before rolling or will it work even if the missiles comes from your 9s or 10s? Great video and gameplays as always
This is called a barrel roll, to pull this off, you need to hold the elevator (S key) and aeilrons (A or D) at the same time. You can perform this against aircrafts that launch the AIM-7F at you in the headon Since the F-20A and F-4S only has aim-7f's as radar missiles, they (aim-7f's) are very easy to outroll in the headon, at such ranges its not worth taking the risk of multipathing or going into a notch if he can just hold the elevator and rudder/aeilrons to dodge it This trick only works against sparrows, skyflashes and other early radar missiles, you should not attempt this against fox3/2's in toptier because they are menuverable enough to not let you outroll them that easily. I'd also like to add to watch your RWR always, if you see a missile coming your way and you do not have a RWR launch warning, that means its an IR guided missile, so flare the IR missile in the headon.
@@protwo6797 Thanks for all these advices, but i pretty much knew all of them, i'm not new to the game. What i don't understand is how Karma makes this manouvre as reliable as shown in this video. I managed to pull this off sometimes but not as reliable so i thought some particular conditions must be met in order to make this manouvre as reliable as shown in video (like maybe pointing your nose at the missile and then doing the manouvre, i noticed this "pattern" but i may be wrong), or is it just RNG? Also, i checked again those parts and i didn't notice that it was an F4S and not an ICE, so thanks😅
@devisucarlo7922 There is no condition to be met, I am not sure what you mean by "Point your nose at the missile" but if you mean by that headon, yes this is only reliable in a headon, its alot harder from rear aspect As long as its a sparrow or a skyflash and that you are facing the missile in a headon, this is do able in every plane with a working elevator.
Hi Bad Karma, nice vid ! So about the RWR, what is the best setting for this Jet, the setting that makes it less sensitive and ignoring some radiation stuffs ?
Regardless of the situation, i always set the twt sensitivity to 100%. I like to stay aware of everything happening, but unfortunately, sometimes i end up going crazy
Question: Su-27SM has datalink set to 2 in its radar, and the 27ER'S HAVE Datalink in their stat card too, but for some reason I cannot guide multiple ER's at the same time, is this a missing feature or am i doing something wrong?
Before getting into situations where energy retention is key, like dogfights and all that, make sure you’ve already eliminated a good amount of weight in weapons and fuel. The Flanker has great energy retention above 1000 kph, but below that, it’s hard to maintain energy. You can use small negative Gs with the W key to reduce the intensity of the turns a bit
The radar frequencies of some planes, like the AV-8 and F-4 ICE, are the same as the F-18's radar, or they might even be the same radar, the same happens with the su27 appearing as a mig29
It’s not that I don’t want to do it, but you can get this kind of information precisely on a website called Stat Shark, i really recommend it if you want to learn more about their performance, it’ll be better than any video here on the platform
ET are also very good and worth keeping even when spaded. They are great for those 20 km shots against targets flying high. They also have a lot of splash damage against targets flying low.
The video I was waiting for, I’m thinking I’m buying it for GE but as I now look at it I’m better off buying a different jet that’s actually premium like the mig-21s
I wish it was a tech tree version or hell even a premium plane. It being a squadron vehicle kinda kills this plane for me since there is a lot of better other vics out there that are worth grinding over it.
@domkirk4408 you dont play a lot of high tier then. 70% of matches are uptiers against fox 3 spam. You also have a far stronger jet just 0.3 below with the f14 fakour spam. Just cuz its high in BR doesnt mean its good. Id rather get the swiss hunter or the british harrier.
@@BlackWolf9988 I only play hightier. In top tier I have to face the same missiles anyways so Im used to them. The most missiles are avoided by terrain masking with little to no effort required. But im also a guy who gets kills in a BTR-80 in top tier GRB.
@@hellogoodbye388 its good but the biggest downside is that it lacks HMS which means you have to point your nose at an enemy in close range. Its worth more as a CAS plane for ground.
Hey can you share some of your keybinds with me for chaff and changing missile type, i changed my keyboard cause of the new update made my sensitivity very high so i swapped keyboards to fix my sensitivity but now i have an entirely different arangement and its pissing me off
Are you excited about the Su-30SM being leaked from a reputable source on the War Thunder forum 🙂 finally a Flanker with a powerful radar...and Thrust Vectoring engines 🥺 hopefully it shows up in the March update 🤞
can u play sweden new fox 3 wallet warrior. i bought for my sweden aviation grinding but i cant figure out how to play when i play aggressive i bleed speed quickly and get punished and when i play supportive i get punished juicy fox3
I like to see that your radar can lock on other jet´s but my eurofighter (german version ) just locks on air with Tws or straight up does not even like to lock on enemy planes , i even had some times that one from my team was near an enemy plane it it rather lock HIM up then the enemy plane , wonder how that works or why its that way .
a lot of youtubers: its a bad fighter, its heavy, no fox3s, dont fly it.
karma: it can fly it can make you happy
Im no where near as good as this guy and I have been a monster. It is slept on
Karma is built different
@@Kermilion-xc3rg since I play Su-27S so well, I think this fighter is actually fun to play. However it only has 48 countermeasures, kinda suck a little bit :(
@@yuricuber6212 the 48 countermeasures are large caliber so use flare or chaff strategically then again most of the warthunder air rb players can't and rather spam flare and chaff
Let me remind you that the R-27R/ERs in the game are also nerfed. IRL it has the function of launch before target lock, and it can receive updates on target location from the mothership via datalink, i.e. be guided via TWS. It won't be imbalanced because all fox-3s already do it in game.
do you have a source for that? loveto get that in game
@@dragonlord2451 About R-27 or the fox-3 in game? Absolutely all missiles whose statcard says “Guidance: DL (i.e. datalink) should work this way. As for the R-27ER specifically, I heard that it even managed to make one air kill during the civil war in Yugoslavia. But at the moment in the game only Fox-3s work this way. There is a video on MiGan Fox-3 UA-cam channel that demonstrates it with explanations.
Funnily enough, the vikhrs in the Su-39 seems to work like that. Maybe it is bug but you can datalink at maximum two Vikhrs to two different moving ground targets
@@noobhue1997I’m presuming one with radar and one with targeting system that doesn’t really sound like a bug unless there’s one laser
@@user-cs3qh1uv5y No laser required. I have videos on my channel showing it. The Vikhr follow only the radar lock of the TGP isn't enslaved to the radar.
The 27ER is just something else man. The pinnacle of all SARH.
The fact that the su33 and the mig29G are the same br is kinda wild. The mig29G aint bad but this is just it but better.
They are the same br because of br compression, loads of planes the same br even though some are much better than others but not good enough to go up a battle rating.
This man fragged 5:1 in the Su-33 playing 90% of his matches at 14.0 🤗
A moment of silence for those who don’t know this channel yet
I actually got to know his channel by a guy commenting on his profile picture in the comment section of a brazilian youtuber (in portuguese). I know this guy is just like me, except that he is way better in air RB than me.
i have a feeling this voice knows where it is at all times
Holy... somehow I think the kill at 7:27 is sooo impressive, the patient to strike at the perfect timing with R73 and dodged the incoming missile.... just perfect!
It actually performs really well in uptiers.. just gotta avoid the absolute barrage of fox-3's at the beginning of the match lol.... great video.
@crzyspirit literally the first half of the match you gotta let everyone waste their missiles then you start popping up taking out all those stupid f14s
@@Lavenderloki yeah literally aha
lol literally seeing the missile float behind you is spooky af
Yo Karma, nice video bro, keep up the good content
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR
imagine when the Su35S or Su30SM comes out, damn
@sfluanrek1234 that would be 15.0😭
@ lol 15.0 will probably be the f35😭
I would love to see you and Defyn dog fighting or collaborating
great vid
Thank you missile your knowledge of your position knows no bounds
Marvelous, cannot wait to see more sea flanker video!
Bro knows fox1s have fox3 tendencies
Karma is gonna be a sole reason for gaijin to put this poor jet at 13.3
04:18 You could try using the ER in BVR with the SM, i think with the speed it gained, the missile should be a lot more dangerous now
Yeah it is especially with DL
R77 is still better because you dont have to guide it. R27ER only works if enemy is out of position and is not targeting you so you can push him.
Thank you sm!! best youtuber
What a video, gentlemen
CINEMA!
Karma is just build different . Iam glad i found this channel.
This was interesting and satisfying to watch brother keep up the good work
The 27ER is still my favourite missile in the game, it's amazing how strong it is. Too bad this, the Su27, the J11A, F16A, F15A , F14s and MICA-less Mirage 2000 can't have their own matchmaker, those games would be great
I dream of this. I genuinely had fun before the fox 3 update. I see no reason why they couldnt
I just accept the challenge at this point.
1:40 man, when I am in this kind of situation, I have dozens of missiles climbing straight to me… 😭
It's a matter of timing, i knew it was unnoticed and there was a small attack window, sometimes, you really will just be defending with a 13.0
This is currently my favorite plane, and maybe the one I have most final blows with. This is the plane that wins games for me.
The way I play it is that I stay passive and defensive early game, maybe take on people far out on the flank, then when most people have used their missiles I go aggressive. Since I have so many of them s they can usually not handle that pressure.
10:10 which settings option allows you to change the control type temporarly to this one ?
Yo could you make a video on your graphics settings, love your content btw
i have it all on the description
@@Bad_Karma777 alright thanks
very nice video dude, i need one of MiG-23ML
CINEMA!!!
This was very helpful im struggling at the moment thank you
How do I toggle to full controls so quickly 10:01? I need to cycle through multiple settings to reach them.
its the software of my mouse, im using a g502 hero
I was fighting for my life in Mirage F1C-200 with two Magic-2 missiles against Su-33 and MiG-29G and other Aim-120s 😂
I'm glad I got Rafale now.
Karma I’m a massive fan of u and I thought I might ask have u got any tips for grinding usa air tree also I don’t play sim only rb tysm if u do give tips bro
Also I love ur vids bro
I swear I can't chaff to save my life. You make it look so easy. Do you know if ping affects countermeasures?
Getting used to dodging missiles takes a lot of details and discipline, some people take a while to get the hang of it, and ping does affect it, as long as you have high ping, the lower the ping, the easier it is to dodge the missile, the timing of when you actually fire the countermeasure is even affected until it registers on the server
@@larsf92 you should turn out even further than 90 like keep pulling away from the missile and it should instantly go for your chaff
Also, try and drop chaff in bunches, rather than 1 every second or so. The missile can do sort of a bread crumbing path and find your plane that way
I will try this.
When i launch my r27er at 40km the enemie chaffs straight away and i loose the radar lock
can we get some Sea Flanker duels? I just wanna see this thing (and the other euro canards) go low speed n put them canards to WORK
I need you to do a video on positioning and early game air RB because I have everything else down, the missiles, flareing, notching, BVR, I just can’t get my early game positioning down
maybe you could show what the Swedish JAS39C looks like in the new update. As a Gripen player, I think that the addition of the Eurofighter and Rafale harmed the effectiveness of this Swedish fighter.
I have a question I can't really find the answer to for example 13:47 target is locked, the lines on right side are top max range 2nd line target range but idk what is the half square means and how important is it?
11:28 , 11:48 Hello Karma, how did you manage to avoid those radar missiles? I mean, i can see you're rolling but which conditions must present in order to pull it off? Like do you have to be above the missile launched at you or will it work even if you're under the missile launched at you? Do you have to point your nose at that missile before rolling or will it work even if the missiles comes from your 9s or 10s?
Great video and gameplays as always
This is called a barrel roll, to pull this off, you need to hold the elevator (S key) and aeilrons (A or D) at the same time. You can perform this against aircrafts that launch the AIM-7F at you in the headon
Since the F-20A and F-4S only has aim-7f's as radar missiles, they (aim-7f's) are very easy to outroll in the headon, at such ranges its not worth taking the risk of multipathing or going into a notch if he can just hold the elevator and rudder/aeilrons to dodge it
This trick only works against sparrows, skyflashes and other early radar missiles, you should not attempt this against fox3/2's in toptier because they are menuverable enough to not let you outroll them that easily.
I'd also like to add to watch your RWR always, if you see a missile coming your way and you do not have a RWR launch warning, that means its an IR guided missile, so flare the IR missile in the headon.
@@protwo6797 Thanks for all these advices, but i pretty much knew all of them, i'm not new to the game.
What i don't understand is how Karma makes this manouvre as reliable as shown in this video. I managed to pull this off sometimes but not as reliable so i thought some particular conditions must be met in order to make this manouvre as reliable as shown in video (like maybe pointing your nose at the missile and then doing the manouvre, i noticed this "pattern" but i may be wrong), or is it just RNG? Also, i checked again those parts and i didn't notice that it was an F4S and not an ICE, so thanks😅
@devisucarlo7922 There is no condition to be met, I am not sure what you mean by "Point your nose at the missile" but if you mean by that headon, yes this is only reliable in a headon, its alot harder from rear aspect
As long as its a sparrow or a skyflash and that you are facing the missile in a headon, this is do able in every plane with a working elevator.
@@protwo6797 Yep that's what i meant, thank you
Su33, the first flanker of the game xd
Hi Bad Karma, nice vid ! So about the RWR, what is the best setting for this Jet, the setting that makes it less sensitive and ignoring some radiation stuffs ?
Regardless of the situation, i always set the twt sensitivity to 100%. I like to stay aware of everything happening, but unfortunately, sometimes i end up going crazy
Yow how do you switch to full real controls that fast without going through other controls?
Question: Su-27SM has datalink set to 2 in its radar, and the 27ER'S HAVE Datalink in their stat card too, but for some reason I cannot guide multiple ER's at the same time, is this a missing feature or am i doing something wrong?
How can you switch to full controls then back to mouse aim without having to cycle 4 times like what you did with that Gripen ?
I think I underestimated the 27ER s a tad bit.
The ERs let me tell you they can be deadly as hell if you put them to use. The same could be said with the R-73 if no flares are involved.
@@goldgamercommenting2990 i would say most ir missiles are deadly without flares😂
Ace Combat 6 is why i fly it
And how do you how in your Radar the alarm for fake missile and real missile because every time I’m shooter by missile and i spam the FLARE
Which missile is preferred, R-27ER or R-27ET ?
Recently got a 8 kill match with it on an operations map with a massive flank. truly a jet that should be reckoned with.
how did you keep your energy so well, i feel like when i turn i lose all my speed so fast, also im on controller and i dont have the best settings.
Before getting into situations where energy retention is key, like dogfights and all that, make sure you’ve already eliminated a good amount of weight in weapons and fuel. The Flanker has great energy retention above 1000 kph, but below that, it’s hard to maintain energy. You can use small negative Gs with the W key to reduce the intensity of the turns a bit
instructions unclear, I now have 3 hot Rafale coming my way (I am doomed, i just don't know it yet)
Can you please explain the missle IOG kills more please?
I wont be getting this plane for a while. But can these tactics be used on the regular 27 Flanker? Not the sm
yeah for sure
Idk if anyone noticed but at the start of the video why does his RWR say F-18? Is it a glitch or am I just crazy?
The radar frequencies of some planes, like the AV-8 and F-4 ICE, are the same as the F-18's radar, or they might even be the same radar, the same happens with the su27 appearing as a mig29
@ Ya after I put that comment out I remembered that they used the same radar. Still was kinda weird as first lol
can you make a video on the new angle gating mechanic? i genuinely feel helpless in BVR now
Simplesmente, o mais brabo.
1:26 I didn't know radar could guide missiles to such a low angle. Is this reliable?
If you know how to manipulate the missile's IOG, it's really worth for sure and can give you more confidence when defense is needed.
@@Bad_Karma777brasileiro homossexual
I love the sea flanker😩
I'm glad I found this video. Like one comment said. Other youtubers crap on this plane. Karma says it's gonna make you happy.
It's truly skill issue
15:02 R27ER turned into a Fox 3 💀
no.....
lmaoo fr
So I’ve been using missiles the whole time in the flanker
can you cover the premium Ariete on italy please? I personally think its a really powerful fighter if used right. Would love if u did! 😂
hi karma can you do a video explaining the MARs between all the flankers and the other top tier jets
It’s not that I don’t want to do it, but you can get this kind of information precisely on a website called Stat Shark, i really recommend it if you want to learn more about their performance, it’ll be better than any video here on the platform
Thabk you dor the advice but i haven't finished researching the r27ers 😭 so i only have 2 but i still have the et but im reaserching it rn
ET are also very good and worth keeping even when spaded. They are great for those 20 km shots against targets flying high. They also have a lot of splash damage against targets flying low.
@BlackWolf9988 I just finished spading it so I'm gonna look at it again and try to cook
what is the best loadout for it
excellent video!!
The video I was waiting for, I’m thinking I’m buying it for GE but as I now look at it I’m better off buying a different jet that’s actually premium like the mig-21s
Regular su27 is better imo. I wouldnt GE it.
@@BlackWolf9988 yeah I changed my mind now I’m not gonna GE it anymore
does it came with tailsman?
Hello, can i see you updated controll setting? thanks
I wish it was a tech tree version or hell even a premium plane. It being a squadron vehicle kinda kills this plane for me since there is a lot of better other vics out there that are worth grinding over it.
This airplane is easily the best squadron vehicle in game at the moment. The only squadron vehicle that itched me to buy it.
@domkirk4408 you dont play a lot of high tier then. 70% of matches are uptiers against fox 3 spam. You also have a far stronger jet just 0.3 below with the f14 fakour spam.
Just cuz its high in BR doesnt mean its good. Id rather get the swiss hunter or the british harrier.
@@BlackWolf9988 I only play hightier. In top tier I have to face the same missiles anyways so Im used to them. The most missiles are avoided by terrain masking with little to no effort required. But im also a guy who gets kills in a BTR-80 in top tier GRB.
What about the Jf 17?
@@hellogoodbye388 its good but the biggest downside is that it lacks HMS which means you have to point your nose at an enemy in close range.
Its worth more as a CAS plane for ground.
De fato, o su-33 é um dos aviões já feitos
Hey can you share some of your keybinds with me for chaff and changing missile type, i changed my keyboard cause of the new update made my sensitivity very high so i swapped keyboards to fix my sensitivity but now i have an entirely different arangement and its pissing me off
What is your keyboard layout for switching the radar and missiles, it looks like you make it easy
So if I’m on Xbox and fired a missile how do I view it after I fire it
i been thinking about getting su34 and running it with as many R27ET as it can carry, is it an idea worth trying out?
@@bananaborn4785 only 2 R27 ET
Carai sabia q se era br. Conteudo maneiro man
Haaach...
Hier schaut das Alles immer so einfach aus.
8:48 RaFail 🤣
@@glacier4286 ain’t that how it’s actually pronounced?
What is frag?
is the gripen 39E coming to Swedish tree
Can you do a vid on flying planes with lacking or missing fox1/3 capability's such as the belgan f16a?
I am now able to see flanker thank you karma
Resist the siren calls of the ocean flanker
poor wingman at 8:01
Hey, Karma! Can u do a video about German MiG-29? I would really like to see gameplay on it in today's reality in Air RB. Thanks! ❤
dude how did your pilot recover so fast from g lock
i always see ppl immediately going to full real control, for me i have to cycle through, how do you go to full right away
Are you excited about the Su-30SM being leaked from a reputable source on the War Thunder forum 🙂 finally a Flanker with a powerful radar...and Thrust Vectoring engines 🥺 hopefully it shows up in the March update 🤞
how working the 27ER from 40km ??? i only can use the hdn 20km :((
Are there any good strategies to prevent aim54's
Estava apenas esperando esse vídeo de você
is the a big different between
su-27 & su-33?
@tahat.u8602
Canards and the fact that no SU-33 in real life has ever carried R-77s
can u play sweden new fox 3 wallet warrior. i bought for my sweden aviation grinding but i cant figure out how to play when i play aggressive i bleed speed quickly and get punished and when i play supportive i get punished juicy fox3
I like to see that your radar can lock on other jet´s but my eurofighter (german version ) just locks on air with Tws or straight up does not even like to lock on enemy planes , i even had some times that one from my team was near an enemy plane it it rather lock HIM up then the enemy plane , wonder how that works or why its that way .
I believe i heard people complain that the radar for the eurofighter is a little bugged.
is this Flanker similar to old Su-27 FM in terms of losing and non-restoring speed? did anybody test it accurately in RB?
r27er still good
Its a good plane, but I will not mainly play it till all countries get their 14.0, at that time 13.0 wont be that many of uptier games
Esse avião é sensacional! Mal posso esperar pra desbloquear ele. Provavelmente daqui uns 5 meses kkkkkkk