I think this is an overstatement. TM Hi-Capas have better tolerances than this and thus, less wear. The challenger also has several design flaws, the TM doesn't have. Good video none the less.
ICS sometimes has very bad ideas like making a proprietary hopup and other bits that they don't support a year later. ICS sometimes has very good ideas like a split gearbox that makes working on stuff a dream. This looks to be somewhere in the middle.
for me its ok if they discontinued the hop chamber. i can still use the afternarket parts. but i hope someone copy it with better material. like steel or brass
@@clyde_santos I am not talking about this particular replica. ICS has made a whoooollllleee lotta stuff over the years and finding parts for the more niche stuff is near impossible, there is no aftermarket. This is a problem with airsoft in general. The only company I know that does a good job supporting their products is Classic Army.
We can always find better airsoft guns than Tokyo Marui, because technology is inevitable. But saying goodbye? I don't think so... I assume 100 years from now, Tokyo Marui will be in the airsoft gun industry😇
Absolutely,,I like ics rifles seem very reliable so far and I've been using 274 hog for 7 yrs...BUT this challenger pistol is badly put together and not much thought into the hop up adjustment but once set you can cover a good distance on a .36 bb but the base gun seems to be abit of a mismatch of shades of black.. tbh stick with tm 5.1.
me, looking at the 3 pistols in front of me while watching the video: hindi ko 'to kailangan, hindi ko 'to kailangan, hindi ko 'to kailangan... may TM AKM GBBR pa akong pinag iipunan... haha Grabe sulit ng price nito given ung pre-upgraded internals and metal parts. Ito na po ba ung naayos nila ung magwell issue kapag ginamitan ng orig TM hicapa mag, sir Clyde?
@@clyde_santos I actually lost the include spare bucking .... And since I use .20~.25 bbs, I need to change it to softer one. Thanka for letting me know!
Planned on doing the same para pasok sa field requirements. What hopup did you replace it with? Would like to ask if you have any suggestion on how to replace the r hop rubber contact accidentally damaged mine during adjusting the hopup. Tia
sir clyde will you recommend Kimber warrior r28 by army armament? :D saw your vid gandang ganda ka din eh hehe pero ngayon kaya yung latest release ok padin kaya?
Hello po ulit sir. Ung Master Mods TDC Hop chamber na gamit nito, kasya ba ang mga TM spec inner barrels and buckings? or dapat un R-hop inner barrel and bucking lang ng Master Mods din? Mag iistock po ba kayo nung chamber lang in the future?
Sir saan po ba nakakabili ng wholesaller ng airsoft. Or website po saan na ka order. Balak kopo bumili kahit 4pcs man lang panimulang paghahanap buhay. Sana matulungan mo po ako.
Gun is actually pretty shit... I tried shooting it at my local airsoft range... Air Consistency is bad some parts are proprietary... Also for hicapas TM will always be king
I think this is an overstatement. TM Hi-Capas have better tolerances than this and thus, less wear. The challenger also has several design flaws, the TM doesn't have. Good video none the less.
ICS sometimes has very bad ideas like making a proprietary hopup and other bits that they don't support a year later.
ICS sometimes has very good ideas like a split gearbox that makes working on stuff a dream.
This looks to be somewhere in the middle.
for me its ok if they discontinued the hop chamber. i can still use the afternarket parts. but i hope someone copy it with better material.
like steel or brass
@@clyde_santos I am not talking about this particular replica. ICS has made a whoooollllleee lotta stuff over the years and finding parts for the more niche stuff is near impossible, there is no aftermarket. This is a problem with airsoft in general.
The only company I know that does a good job supporting their products is Classic Army.
@@spider0804 ahh yeah.. thats why i ignore most of there products 😅😅😅. only this one
@@clyde_santos Appreciate the video and replies. Have a good one.
Good day sir Clyde stay safe and happy shooting 👍😁 GODBLESS 🙏
We can always find better airsoft guns than Tokyo Marui, because technology is inevitable. But saying goodbye? I don't think so... I assume 100 years from now, Tokyo Marui will be in the airsoft gun industry😇
Absolutely,,I like ics rifles seem very reliable so far and I've been using 274 hog for 7 yrs...BUT this challenger pistol is badly put together and not much thought into the hop up adjustment but once set you can cover a good distance on a .36 bb but the base gun seems to be abit of a mismatch of shades of black.. tbh stick with tm 5.1.
narinig ko na ulit sa wakas yung shoofers and eggsofters
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Ganda! Indeed a practical choice for a beginner who still isn't addicted with building pistols 😅
Kasya po sya sir confinement box?
good question. will try it and update you
Agree, nut the design is good
Thanks for the review 😀
Ganda naman nyan sir clyde👍👍👍
sir, ask ko lang kung anong front and rearsights ang compatible sa kanya? mejo awkward kase ung stock sights nya... thank you in advance :)
Based on your review, 😁I ordered it. If it's alright with you guys, I'll give updates on how it performs. Liked. Subbed. Thanks
thank you enjoy your pewpew
Any update sir?
@@rolandozarajr8650 Sir sori, bz s work
Thank you dami kopong natutunan sainyo
Would you recommend this over Cz Shadow 2?
Good review 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
After a year a TM still better than that... Now a new "gane changer" maybe be a SSP5.. But for sure no ICS...
me, looking at the 3 pistols in front of me while watching the video: hindi ko 'to kailangan, hindi ko 'to kailangan, hindi ko 'to kailangan... may TM AKM GBBR pa akong pinag iipunan...
haha Grabe sulit ng price nito given ung pre-upgraded internals and metal parts. Ito na po ba ung naayos nila ung magwell issue kapag ginamitan ng orig TM hicapa mag, sir Clyde?
kaylangan mo yan promise :))
@@clyde_santos oh tukso! layuan mo ako! haha hanap muna ako ng airsoft competition group dito sa amin sir para testingin ung mga meron akong 1911s.
thx for the video! how heavy is the rmr mount?? is it aluminum?
Maybe aluminum? But it's light
Sir clyde can u pls make a review of the src babayaga beta?
if mag karoon why not
I'd love to know your thoughts on this gun, too! @@clyde_santos
Ilan po fps nya?
Does it take standard gbb type bucking? Planning to swap it out with a maple leaf one.
I guess so. But why you are going to change it? 🤔 The hop system and the rubber are already good.
@@clyde_santos I actually lost the include spare bucking .... And since I use .20~.25 bbs, I need to change it to softer one. Thanka for letting me know!
Planned on doing the same para pasok sa field requirements. What hopup did you replace it with? Would like to ask if you have any suggestion on how to replace the r hop rubber contact accidentally damaged mine during adjusting the hopup. Tia
@@rwddionisio8604 I haven't touch the inside the hop..I guess I need to consider looking at it.
@@clyde_santos Stock setting is like 0.40+ BBs where it's of limited use in a side arm
100% TM compatible?
sir clyde will you recommend Kimber warrior r28 by army armament? :D saw your vid gandang ganda ka din eh hehe pero ngayon kaya yung latest release ok padin kaya?
Ok lang 😅 mura naman
@@clyde_santos buhay paba yung sayo? HAhaha ano mods na gnwa mo para tumagal
@@nealbernal9083 collectors item hehe ok lang sya for starter and for its price. Aangal pa ba ako..pero Wala din akong expect sa.army.hehe
@@clyde_santos hahahaha lol check ko muna visualy baka kasi ma wobble tulad nong nsa yt vid din
Hello po ulit sir. Ung Master Mods TDC Hop chamber na gamit nito, kasya ba ang mga TM spec inner barrels and buckings? or dapat un R-hop inner barrel and bucking lang ng Master Mods din?
Mag iistock po ba kayo nung chamber lang in the future?
Good question.un ang di ko pa nakalkal. Pero mukang pwde
@@clyde_santos new comparison with AM or stock TM chamber video in the future? haha
Sir Clyde magkano Po nio naavail ung unit ✌️😁
sa CS pro Custom sir :) 10500 :)
@@clyde_santos kapareho Pala Ng EMG combat master ✌️😁♥️thanks boss Stay safe and bless Good luck to your upcoming events 👍❤️😁
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Saan nyo po napurchase yang unit sir? Wla kasi ako mahanapan nyan dito sa area namin.. Thx..
CS Pro Custom sir 😁
helo sir posibli po kaya meron kayang magazine yan .177 o .22 png airgun na pde sa ICS chalenger. hehe tnx po
Wala po sir 😁. Di po sya airgun
Sir saan po ba nakakabili ng wholesaller ng airsoft. Or website po saan na ka order. Balak kopo bumili kahit 4pcs man lang panimulang paghahanap buhay. Sana matulungan mo po ako.
pm cs pro custom sir
@@clyde_santos d ko maintindihan. Ano ibig ninyo sabihin pasensya na po.
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@@clyde_santos oky na sir nakita kona wholesaller po ba sya
@@clyde_santos d pwedeng pang resaller. Sir.
Gun is actually pretty shit... I tried shooting it at my local airsoft range... Air Consistency is bad some parts are proprietary... Also for hicapas TM will always be king
Are you sure it was original branded?! This gun is pretty solid and accurate...