There are two types of sauce cakes that I used to make when the children were small (they're now grown adults with their own families). One of them was the chocolate one you made. Another is called "Half-Hour Pudding", though I have no idea why - it takes 45-50 minutes to bake. The recipe has been in my family for a few generations, and I have no idea where it originated. Be warned - it contains raisins. So if you don't like raisins... Here is the recipe for any who would like to try it. All measurements are in the old Imperial, even though I'm Canadian and my country is metric. It's a thing. :D The recipe also assumes you know to mix the dry ingredients together in one bowl, cream the butter and sugar together in another, and then mix the two together with milk. Anyway, here goes: Half-Hour Pudding Sauce: 1/4 cup brown sugar 1 cup hot water 1/2 tablespoon butter Melt together and pour over the batter in the pan. Batter: 2 tablespoons butter 1/4 cup brown sugar 1/2 cup milk 1 cup flour 1 teaspoon vanilla 1 cup raisins 1 teaspoon baking powder dash salt Bake at 350 degrees F for 45-50 minutes.
We called this hot fudge sundae cake, always a winter dessert served over ice cream. It was great because it was something we kids could make to contribute to the meal.
Yeah, it's more of a student dish here because all the ingredients are cheap and you can cook it in the microwave. It's in the Edmond's Cookbook, which is the cooking bible that every NZ household should have.
I recognized this right away from my grandmother's recipe box. She called it a "Devil's float" which I think is an amazing name. My mom made this frequently when I was a kid, as well, and we called it hot fudge pudding cake. So many great memories, I may have to make this over the weekend. Thanks Emmy and Stephanie!
My grandmother used to make that cake quite often. She called it “poor man’s pudding”. She made it caramel flavour with raisins. Pretty much the exact same but no cocoa. Thanks Emmy, now I miss my gramma. ❤
Growing up in the 50s and 60s, this Hot Fudge Pudding was a favorite of my Mom’s. It’s in the 1950 Betty Crocker cookbook (page 222). We always had nuts (we used walnuts) in ours, never “flipped” it to serve it, and put a dollop of (real) whipped cream on top. The chocolate sauce does thicken as it sits (yours looked really runny).
I have grown up on this cake. My mom who is 80 ate it as a kid too. We never turned it upside down however. Just scooped out while warm and a scoop of vanilla. Crunchy top, warm sauce and cold ice cream. A trifecta
Throughout my husband's large family this was known as 'Aunt Max's Chocolate Upside-Down Cake.' First time I had it I was hooked. Her recipe(slightly different than this one) had chopped walnuts, making it even more brownie-like. It also called for boiling water to be poured on top of the batter. You can up the cocoa powder a bit to really please the chocolate lovers in your family. Vanilla ice cream, as was suggested in the video, is a great go- with, as is strawberry. But if you really want to paint the lily go for chocolate or peanut butter. This will become a much-requested dessert.
I’ve been baking for 55 years, and we call this hot fudge pudding cake - often with walnuts added and instead of cold water, use hot water. Perfect with a scoop of ice cream!
"Self-saucing?! Yes, please!" I remember these types of cakes as a child, but we used box mixes - usually lemon flavour or apple cinnamon. What a blast from the past!
I think I had that at a potluck once. It is really good. My wife and I have a recipe for you that is specific to a rice cooker. We have a small Black & Decker one, so our recipe is small, but it's very simple. My wife has gastroparesis, and so her diet is extremely limited. It kind of fits with your theme of simple recipes. So, basically it's steamed rice that tastes like fried rice. For a 2:1 rice, we do 1 cup of water, 1/2 cup of rice, 1 T of liquid aminos or soy sauce, 1 T of oyster sauce, 1 t of garlic powder, and 1 T of butter. Let that cook and then rest for 3-5 minutes, then add two eggs and enough water so that you can see it, scramble it up a bit and make sure to get all the stuff off of the bottom, and then cook it again. With ours, we sometimes have to cook it a third time. With her diet, she can't have very many vegetables due to the fiber, but you could easily add a few at the beginning if they're frozen. We love watching your show. Keep up the awesome work....[[|:-)
Is that real? Did you win something? I've been watching Emmy for a few years but I've never seen that before...maybe I don't read comments enough.🤷♀️💜✌🏼
In Australia we'd call this a chocolate self-saucing pudding and usually make it in a ceramic dish and just scoop it out and definitely serve with vanilla ice cream! You can also make a butterscotch version.
In my family we call this saucy fudge pudding! Its one of my top favourite easy desserts because its quick to throw together, uses only basic baking staples (no fancy/expensive ingredients), but so easy to add other flavours to your preference. You could throw in any kind of chocolate chips, any kind of nuts, marshmallows, coconut, crushed candy canes or peppermints, Orange zest and juice, instant coffee powder, toffee, caramel, mashed banana... the only limit is your own imagination :)
My Better Homes and Gardens cookbook (red and white checkered cover) 1973 edition has a recipe similar to this called “Brownie Pudding”. I’ve made this dessert off and on for years and it is delicious. The wet ingredients poured over the top do indeed go down to the bottom of the 8x8 pan and make more of a lovely smooth pudding than a loose sauce under the brownie topping. So yummy!
I've been looking for this cake for 20 years now! THANK YOU EMMY!! I had a vintage betty crocker cookbook for kids and this recipe was in it, it was called chocolate lava pudding cake or something, but I remember it being very simple ingredients and the sauce tasting like a ton of brown sugar and a little chocolate. I made it when I was like 12 for a rare family dinner and everyone loved it!
I cannot believe it!! My mom has that original cookbook! That cover is something I remember seeing on the kitchen counter growing up ❤️ Interesting fact: The original printing of that book, has the woman smoking a pipe while she's cooking and when she's in a rocking chair. Looks like they altered it for the reprint. 🥰🍽️
your videos are so soothing i love how you dont chew loud, i hate loud chewing/mouth sounds bcs i have misophonia but your videos are very calming and have minimal to no eating sounds its so nice
Oh I haven't made this in years. Our recipe came from Betty crocker and called hot fudge Sunday cake... Thanks for the nostalgia Edit to add. We always mix in the cake pan itself. No need for extra bowls and stuff.
Same! :D Even though it's falling apart a bit, I still have the old Betty Crocker cookbook from my grandma. This cake/dessert tastes great and is super simple, really yummy with vanilla ice cream too!
@@elenionalagos4001 I found it in my mother's Betty Crocker cookbook (1950 version) and it's called Hot Fudge Pudding. Thanks for mentioning that cookbook, it's the only one my mother used. ❤
You can buy any flavoured cheap cake mix. Make according to directions, in the bowl that you will cook it in. If chocolate, get a cup of boiling water, a couple of teaspoons of cocoa powder and some sugar. Mix an pour it on hot. Dump the lot into a preheated oven and just bake as long as recommended. Or chuck it in a microwave for about 8 minutes, then test. The top will be a bit gooey looking, but will dry while standing. Split it between 4 cups, if you want individual servings and a couple of minutes for each. Or in an oven for about 15. Greetings from Dimboola in Victoria, Australia.
this recipe was in a kid's cookbook i had called the "magic spoon cookbook", and it was one of the first cake recipes i made by myself. thanks for making this emmy!
I have made this cake for years…it was called baked fudge dessert. There was an option for 1/2 chopped walnuts. You can also use leftover coffee instead of water for a mocha treat! Try using boiling water instead of cold…the sauce will be more like a slightly runny pudding texture. Spoon the cake and sauce over ice cream.
My family calls this type of cake "Saucy hot-fudge pudding cake." It is a long-standing favourite of ours! It is really good served while warm with ice cream! 🤤
I made one of these and brought it to work for a potluck. Walked into the break room and found a coworker had eaten practically the entire cake by himself, straight from the baking dish. I knew it was good but dang, it was gone before everyone got a chance to try a bit.
I knew this as sponge pudding and, from fishing trips to Canada, we would buy a couple boxes of mix. Usually made one while on vacation and brought the others home since we liked it but couldn’t find the boxes in stores in Ohio. I have seen recipes for this in various cookbooks and Golden Corral used to serve a version of this in their dessert section. It’s really good served over ice cream. The evolved form of this is chocolate lava cake.
This was one of my family favorite recipes when I was in high school. It was in a little recipe book that was given to home ec cooking classes in central New York. All my cookbooks we're lost in an arson fire. So I'm glad to find this recipe. The chocolate pudding cake I made didn't have brown sugar in it...not so much Suger but more cocoa. I can't remember the full recipe, but after seeing yours I'm going to try it again. Thank you!
Tip for you Emmy...the cover on most vanilla bottles holds 1 teaspoon. My mom taught me this, and if you measure it you'll see for yourself. That way there is no waste, any remaining just dips back into the bottle. Also for imitation vanilla she said always use 2 teaspoons for the best flavor. Always double it. This recipe should make a pudding layer...not an icing. Used to make a cake like this for my dad and my husband. But it was called a pudding cake, and the pudding under it was just like hot homemade pudding. Thicker than your sauce, but oh so yummy.
I'm also from NZ kids love'self saucing choc pudding. Always used boiling water not cold and if u want a thicker sauce add some cornflour to sugar and cocoa mix .
My mom started making a cake like this in my teens and I still make it occasionally. We call it Hot Fudge Pudding Cake and our version is all mixed in the baking dish and for the "topping" we use just brown sugar, it makes a thicker fudgier sauce. We would usually have it with vanilla icecream or cool-whip, so good!
This seems just like the Sauce'N Cake instant cake mixes. I used to love them as a kid, and they had lemon, caramel, chocolate, and rum and butter. Super easy to make and very tasty.
I have this book and a few others all passed down through family, love them and the recipes they come with but what makes the books even better is all the illustrations and snippets of poems and sayings ❤🥰😊
We're sending Emmy cookbooks now? I've gotta find my copy of Patrick McManus's "Whatchagot Stew" cookbook. She'd have a blast flipping through that and trying some of the more unusual recipes.
This is similar to the chocolate lava cake my mom would make. It was super chocolaty, and had the consistency of a cross between bread pudding and a brownie with a thick, syrupy sauce.
@@sallycormier1383 , I did a search for "Lemon Pudding Cake" and found a few recipes using those search parameters. May try that and find one that you like.
I genuinely love your channel, I have been watching you for years and your creativity amazes me. You always know how to switch it up and keep your channel entertaining and I admire that!
A friend of mine made something like this but she mixed the batter and put it in the pan, then mixed the sugar, cocoa and water and poured it over top before baking it. She called it a lava cake. And another friend shared a "raisin pudding" recipe done in a similar manner where you make the batter (which if I recall is similar but used baking powder and no cocoa, and I always used dried cranberries cause I don't like raisins) and you mix boiling water with butter and brown sugar and pour that over before baking, it's a self-saucing puddle of deliciousness. Been too long since I've made that, time to go dig out that recipe!
Mom would make "one egg cakes" which were one layer snack cakes. If the hens were not laying you could make it. Ice with boiled fudge frosting which sets up in a firm layer like a fudge. My husband's Granny made the same thing and I am trying to find the boiled icing recipe.
Self saucing?! Yes please! My best friend and I were talking about this today. I used to make this for a quick warm dessert. I have also made the lemon version.
@@relax2dream164 I haven't found it yet but, I looked on Google for lemon pudding cake and found two that are a lot like mine. One is from NYT Cooking and the other is from Once Upon a Chef. I think you will be happy with either of these.
"upside down cake" wouldn't that suggest putting it on the plate upside down, so the sauce is on top. (tho I realize that it's rather soupy, but, like you said, maybe cook longer) Thanks for the recipe. I actually have all the ingredients for this. I'll have to give it a try next time I go to dinner at my friend's house. They love chocolate cake. (I'd rather have white or yellow. 😊)
This is one of the first recipes I learned as a kid. It's foolproof and the results are so satisfying. I got the recipe out of my mom's old Betty Crocker cookbook. I still make it from time to time.
My momma made this all the time growing up! We call it hot fudge cake. Our measurements are a tad different and no lard. We use hot water. The sauce is thicker than yours too. Served with vanilla ice cream. I always make it for company. Everyone loves it and it’s so easy to do. Don’t have to worry about messing it up. 😁
As an Appalachian I have to recommend you try biscuits with chocolate gravy. It's a cooked chocolate pudding poured on biscuits as a simple dessert and a lot of good childhood memories there
This is almost exactly like the Warm Fudgy Pudding Cake recipe from The Kitchn's website. Only differences are that they use 2 tablespoons of melted butter instead of 4 tablespoons? of shortening, the butter, milk, and vanilla were mixed together and poured into the dry ingredients, it was baked at 375F for like 40-45 mins in a greased 8x8 inch pan. I think the melted butter, even if it's a lesser amount than the solid shortening actually made the batter a bit looser so it spread more easily into the pan for me (it's been a few months since I last made this), but it baked up almost exactly the same, crackly/shiny top, cake that's nice and moist, and a layer of fairly thick pudding at the bottom of the pan. This cake is good from the fridge too, either as is with the even thicker pudding sauce or reheated for like 20 seconds in the microwave. My mom likes to eat it cold straight from the fridge when we have leftovers but I prefer reheating it. Great with vanilla ice cream too!
Betty Crocker 's hot fudge pudding cake recipe, except that one has nuts and a small bit of shortening. Also calls for HOT water, not cold. I love this cake! Next try her lemon pudding cake!
I made desserts at Cracker Barrel 20 years ago when chocolate cobbler was on the menu. It was the same as this. It was called cobbler because the top and bottom swap places during baking, that's the only thing it had in common with fruit cobbler. The batter came to the restaurant premade, where it was spread into a pan and topped with water before baking. It was then spooned out from the pan into a small bowl and topped with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. The batter contained nuts. If it had already cooled, the indivual serving was microwaved before topping with ice cream. It was the restaurant's most popular dessert at the time, and I'm sure many people grieved the loss when the menu changed.
I think if it cooled more ythe sauce would thicken up. You are supposed to flip it over when you serve it. I think I would put some flour in the sauce mix to thicken it up.
I have an idea for possibly a future $2 recipe, when I was young my dad would whip together this meal when he needed something fast and created it originally with whatever we had in the pantry at the time. It’s just spaghetti noodles, tomato paste, and any sort of cream cheese, I prefer Philadelphia. I like to add garlic too but that’s optional. Without the garlic it’s a three ingredient meal, and absolutely delicious. I still enjoy it to this day 😊
This is an old familiar recipe... It probably has as many names as there are bakers... I first tasted it in 1974. The lady who made it for us called it Chocolate Lush Cake. She baked hers in a 9 inch square cake pan & said the recipe didn't double well, just make more than one if you needed more. Also she didn't cut the cake, she served it with a large spoon. It was luscious! If you want to choc out, serve it with a scoop of chocolate ice cream & a drizzle of chocolate syrup!
I used to make this for my kids in the 80s. We called it Chocolate Pudding Cake. We mixed it all by hand in a 8" square pan. Very simple. There was also a lemon version.
For some reason I want to call this Hot Fudge chocolate cobbler. My mom made this when we were kids and I made it a few times as a teenager. I was thinking I needed her recipe the other day.
What a unique recipe! I'd love a vanilla or lemon or cinnamon version. I wonder whether the temperature in the recipe (357 degrees) was a transposition typo.
I found a recipe very similar to this one called Brownie Pudding. It's basically the same but the sauce is much thicker like pudding. it's pretty fantastic.
When I bake a chocolate cake I will use cocoa powder to flour My Pan rather than using flour so that way I don't have this white dust all over my chocolate cake .
As other of my fellow Australians and even our neighbours over in NZ, we call them self saucing pudding, my mum used to make these often, very delicious and great with vanilla ice-cream, great video Emmy 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘Cheers from Melbourne Australia
Chocolate pudding cake!! My kids ask for it ALL the time!! We mix it right in the baking pan and no dishes to wash!! Recipe is a bit different but same foundation. So good and easy
As others have said, we make something very similar to this in Aotearoa/ New Zealand and in Australia. We eat it warm/hot with icecream or whipped cream although l can testify it's pretty good cold for breakfast. 😋 Because it's served as a pudding, it doesn't matter so much about greasing the dish so, I use the same pyrex casserole dish to melt the butter, mix it and cook it. If you want a prettier pudding, by all means use a separate bowl to mix etc. and, if you like a softer top cover it with a lid. Here's a microwave version. If you prefer, this same recipe can be baked in the oven for about the same time as the "cake". Easy Self Saucing Chocolate Pudding Ingredients Pudding 1 Tbsp Butter, melted 1/2 cup Milk 1 tsp vanilla essence 3/4 cup White Sugar 1 cup Plain Flour (if using Self Raising Flour, omit the Baking Powder) 1 tsp Baking Powder (if using Self Raising Flour, omit the Baking Powder) 2 Tbsp cocoa powder Sauce 3/4 cup Soft Brown Sugar 1/4 cup cocoa powder 1 1/2 cups boiling water Method Pudding Melt the butter in a deep microwave proof bowl/serving dish. Add the Milk, followed by the vanilla essence. Sift in the flour, cocoa and baking powder (if using) - mix until "globby". Scrape down the sides and smooth the top. Sauce In a large measuring cup, mix the Soft Brown Sugar with the cocoa and sprinkle over top of pudding mixture. Use the same cup to measure the boiling water and pour it over the back of a spoon onto pudding batter. Microwave on high for 10 minutes. Enjoy!
My family has a recipe similar to this but is called chocolate pudding cake and the sauce is thicker like pudding and it cooks for 45 minutes and the cake batter is mixed in the pan you bake it in then the coco mixed with two types of sugar is put on top with the water and put in the oven. It's a quick dessert to make of you need one and the baking can be timed to be ready out of the oven hot when it's time for dessert. Nothing like seeing the pudding bubbling out of the cake. It can be served with ice cream or whipped cream. My grandma gave me the recipe.
We’d call this a self-saucing pudding. Serve warm with cream and/or ice cream. (A regular chocolate cake can be made into a self-saucing pudding. Just add brown sugar, cocoa and hot water on top and bake as normal. Even better with chunks of chocolate in the cake mix so you get melted chocolate chunks in the pudding too!)
My mom called it "brownie buckle". Substitute the cocoa to more flour and spoon batter over cut fruit. Sugar flour mixture on the top, then pour over the water. I've got a lemon and a maple version too.
This is like my grandmother's peach cobbler recipe. The dough went in the pan, then you poured the wet can of peaches on top of it. The peach is all synced to the bottom along with the sweetened juice and the dough floats to the top.
I actually cringed when hydrogenated vegetable was added to any recipe, instead of butter. Back in the day it was the way of saving money. I'd love to send you the recipe for my grandmother when I find it and have you try it.
I read a lot of these comments and I was surprised at how many people have actually heard of this albeit by different names. I have never ever heard of this cake before. I will have to make it for my family. Looks interesting. Thank you for sharing.
This reminds me of chocolate gravy! My southern-born husband raves about biscuits with chocolate gravy...have you ever made chocolate gravy, Emmy? We've watched almost every video you've ever made and I can't remember chocolate gravy, ever...anyway, it would be SO neat to see you do a chocolate gravy episode! (Red-eye gravy is a southern breakfast delicacy as well!)
When I was little, I would spend a week with my grandparents every summer. I remember my grandmother teaching me to make a very similar cake during those visits.
We call this chocolate cobbler in Mississippi. There is a restaurant called Seafood Junction in Algoma that always has it. It's amazing with soft serve.
We used to make this all the time when I was growing up, and we called it brownie pudding cake. Always served it with vanilla ice cream, with sauce over the top! Super tasty, very easy. And we never bothered cutting it, just served it all with a spoon, cake and sauce together.
I love this recipe! I love your videos. I wanted to know if you ever heard of or made a Sans Rival cake? It is basically layers of meringue with a rich French buttercream. It is gluten free and is amazing. I have looked up recipes and it seems way beyond my skill set, but you make everything look completely easy, that is why I asked. I have only ever had it once, but it is, in my opinion, without rival as its name suggests.
Yes, I have made this many times. In a 9 inch square pan. It was called a hot fudge cake. I use a boxed mix. Or a quick, flour, and oil , sugar batter.
My family makes a version of this but we call it "half hour pudding" pretty much the only difference is for the sauce we use boiling water and devolve the cocoa and sugar and then poor over top befor baking. One of my favorites 😍 we would always add a little bit of ice cream OR a splash of whipping cream
We make something like this called 'hot fudge sundae cake' in my house! It's soo good, we serve it warm on top of icecream 😋. I actually just made it a couple weeks ago for my sil, lol. Her mom's recipe is the one we use 😊.
We call this chocolate cobbler. Mine starts woth melted sticks of butter in the bottom, then a white batter, then the cocoa, sugar and boiling water. Then bake. Delish!
Ooh this is actually very similar to a self saucing chocolate pudding recipe we have in the UK. At the end you use boiling hot water (which is a bit scary to work with but such an easy foolproof recipe) to pour over everything and when it's cooked there's a lovely sauce at the bottom.
I found a cake like this in our church cook book, called a Hot Fudge Pudding Cake, and we love it! It's a great one to make for my husband because he can't have dairy, which can make icing a little tricky. Ours doesn't have brown sugar in the topping though, I'd like to try that!
There are two types of sauce cakes that I used to make when the children were small (they're now grown adults with their own families). One of them was the chocolate one you made. Another is called "Half-Hour Pudding", though I have no idea why - it takes 45-50 minutes to bake. The recipe has been in my family for a few generations, and I have no idea where it originated. Be warned - it contains raisins. So if you don't like raisins... Here is the recipe for any who would like to try it. All measurements are in the old Imperial, even though I'm Canadian and my country is metric. It's a thing. :D The recipe also assumes you know to mix the dry ingredients together in one bowl, cream the butter and sugar together in another, and then mix the two together with milk. Anyway, here goes:
Half-Hour Pudding
Sauce:
1/4 cup brown sugar
1 cup hot water
1/2 tablespoon butter
Melt together and pour over the batter in the pan.
Batter:
2 tablespoons butter
1/4 cup brown sugar
1/2 cup milk
1 cup flour
1 teaspoon vanilla
1 cup raisins
1 teaspoon baking powder
dash salt
Bake at 350 degrees F for 45-50 minutes.
Thank you for this recipe, I appreciate this
Thank you for the recipe! How nice! 😊
Thank you so much for sharing the recipe! Also raisins are good!
thank you!
Oh this sounds SO delicious!! I don't mind raisins. 😊😊
In Australia we call this a self-saucing chocolate pudding. It's delicious served hot with icecream!
That's what I was thinking it needed. Ice cream!
NZ too!
I was immediately sure this had to be a self saucing pud!
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We called this hot fudge sundae cake, always a winter dessert served over ice cream. It was great because it was something we kids could make to contribute to the meal.
Yes, hot fudge sundae cake. I think it was a Betty Crocker cookbook recipe. I loved it as a kid, and my kids loved it too.
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Can we turn this in to a Blondy?.
White chocolate and macadamia nuts. With a triple sec . Orange liquor. ...some canabu.....mint as a garnish.
@@russchamberlain8755 yum!
We call this Self-saucing Chocolate Sponge Pudding here in NZ. Pudding means dessert. It’s pretty funny to hear it referred to as hillbilly!
Yeah, it's more of a student dish here because all the ingredients are cheap and you can cook it in the microwave.
It's in the Edmond's Cookbook, which is the cooking bible that every NZ household should have.
@@this_is_not_my_real_name Your comment made me think of Winona Ryder's microwave brownies from the movie Reality Bites. Haha.
I love how people all over the world have some kind of version of this. It’s so fun to go through the comments with everyone telling their stories!
We call it self-saucing pudding here in Australia. But in my house we call it volcano pudding
Lol I was just about to comment the same thing!
I recognized this right away from my grandmother's recipe box. She called it a "Devil's float" which I think is an amazing name. My mom made this frequently when I was a kid, as well, and we called it hot fudge pudding cake. So many great memories, I may have to make this over the weekend. Thanks Emmy and Stephanie!
Now, that's a memorable name for a dessert.
That's a fabulous name! Kidding around kind of fun!😉😈
That is an awesome name 🙂. I now must find something else to call Devil's Float😁
My grandmother used to make that cake quite often. She called it “poor man’s pudding”. She made it caramel flavour with raisins. Pretty much the exact same but no cocoa. Thanks Emmy, now I miss my gramma. ❤
Oh god she put raisins in it?
You can do a date caramel version too, it’s my fave.
@@riverAmazonNZ dates are even worse D:
@@ksoundkaiju9256 I love medjool dates. I eat them every day!
@@riverAmazonNZ tried em once
Hated em, I’d rather have the unshriveled fruit it comes from
Growing up in the 50s and 60s, this Hot Fudge Pudding was a favorite of my Mom’s. It’s in the 1950 Betty Crocker cookbook (page 222). We always had nuts (we used walnuts) in ours, never “flipped” it to serve it, and put a dollop of (real) whipped cream on top. The chocolate sauce does thicken as it sits (yours looked really runny).
I have grown up on this cake. My mom who is 80 ate it as a kid too. We never turned it upside down however. Just scooped out while warm and a scoop of vanilla. Crunchy top, warm sauce and cold ice cream. A trifecta
Throughout my husband's large family this was known as 'Aunt Max's Chocolate Upside-Down Cake.' First time I had it I was hooked. Her recipe(slightly different than this one) had chopped walnuts, making it even more brownie-like. It also called for boiling water to be poured on top of the batter. You can up the cocoa powder a bit to really please the chocolate lovers in your family. Vanilla ice cream, as was suggested in the video, is a great go- with, as is strawberry. But if you really want to paint the lily go for chocolate or peanut butter. This will become a much-requested dessert.
I’ve been baking for 55 years, and we call this hot fudge pudding cake - often with walnuts added and instead of cold water, use hot water. Perfect with a scoop of ice cream!
same thing here in NC
We always used boiling water too.
DEFINITELY, BOILING.
Yep...the recipe used to be on the back of Hershey's cocoa powder.
Same, I use hot water.
Yes, hot fudge pudding cake! I use boiling hot water instead of cold. A true favorite at my house!
"Self-saucing?! Yes, please!" I remember these types of cakes as a child, but we used box mixes - usually lemon flavour or apple cinnamon. What a blast from the past!
Ohhhhhhhhhh....the Lemon one in the 70's🥰😁 Would love one again. My mom used a boxed mix one but cannot find them any more. Wishwishwish.
I think I had that at a potluck once. It is really good. My wife and I have a recipe for you that is specific to a rice cooker. We have a small Black & Decker one, so our recipe is small, but it's very simple. My wife has gastroparesis, and so her diet is extremely limited. It kind of fits with your theme of simple recipes. So, basically it's steamed rice that tastes like fried rice. For a 2:1 rice, we do 1 cup of water, 1/2 cup of rice, 1 T of liquid aminos or soy sauce, 1 T of oyster sauce, 1 t of garlic powder, and 1 T of butter. Let that cook and then rest for 3-5 minutes, then add two eggs and enough water so that you can see it, scramble it up a bit and make sure to get all the stuff off of the bottom, and then cook it again. With ours, we sometimes have to cook it a third time. With her diet, she can't have very many vegetables due to the fiber, but you could easily add a few at the beginning if they're frozen. We love watching your show. Keep up the awesome work....[[|:-)
Sounds delicious, and your wife is definitely a lucky woman with a caring husband like you.
Is that real? Did you win something? I've been watching Emmy for a few years but I've never seen that before...maybe I don't read comments enough.🤷♀️💜✌🏼
In Australia we'd call this a chocolate self-saucing pudding and usually make it in a ceramic dish and just scoop it out and definitely serve with vanilla ice cream! You can also make a butterscotch version.
Wow that sounds amazing 🤩
And there is also lemon ones. If I make up a lemon box mix one, I add extra lemon in the form of zest and juice in the boiling water.
Also with butter not shortening, and hot water not cold 😅
You are always such a joy to watch! Your 8”x8” pan is closer than you think ~ 7x9=63, 8x8=64 so just one square inch different, yay! 😉
I was looking to see if someone commented this lol she said "70" and I thought "that doesn't sound right"
Tactfully saying your math is bad.
In my family we call this saucy fudge pudding! Its one of my top favourite easy desserts because its quick to throw together, uses only basic baking staples (no fancy/expensive ingredients), but so easy to add other flavours to your preference. You could throw in any kind of chocolate chips, any kind of nuts, marshmallows, coconut, crushed candy canes or peppermints, Orange zest and juice, instant coffee powder, toffee, caramel, mashed banana... the only limit is your own imagination :)
My Better Homes and Gardens cookbook (red and white checkered cover) 1973 edition has a recipe similar to this called “Brownie Pudding”. I’ve made this dessert off and on for years and it is delicious. The wet ingredients poured over the top do indeed go down to the bottom of the 8x8 pan and make more of a lovely smooth pudding than a loose sauce under the brownie topping. So yummy!
I've been looking for this cake for 20 years now! THANK YOU EMMY!!
I had a vintage betty crocker cookbook for kids and this recipe was in it, it was called chocolate lava pudding cake or something, but I remember it being very simple ingredients and the sauce tasting like a ton of brown sugar and a little chocolate. I made it when I was like 12 for a rare family dinner and everyone loved it!
I cannot believe it!! My mom has that original cookbook! That cover is something I remember seeing on the kitchen counter growing up ❤️
Interesting fact: The original printing of that book, has the woman smoking a pipe while she's cooking and when she's in a rocking chair. Looks like they altered it for the reprint. 🥰🍽️
your videos are so soothing i love how you dont chew loud, i hate loud chewing/mouth sounds bcs i have misophonia but your videos are very calming and have minimal to no eating sounds its so nice
Oh I haven't made this in years. Our recipe came from Betty crocker and called hot fudge Sunday cake...
Thanks for the nostalgia
Edit to add. We always mix in the cake pan itself. No need for extra bowls and stuff.
Same! :D
Even though it's falling apart a bit, I still have the old Betty Crocker cookbook from my grandma. This cake/dessert tastes great and is super simple, really yummy with vanilla ice cream too!
Yes! I have that cookbook. I made it when my kids were little.
@@elenionalagos4001 I found it in my mother's Betty Crocker cookbook (1950 version) and it's called Hot Fudge Pudding. Thanks for mentioning that cookbook, it's the only one my mother used. ❤
@@gigidodson My mother has a really old book from back in the 60s and I bought mine in the 90s.
Both have definitely seen better days.
You can buy any flavoured cheap cake mix. Make according to directions, in the bowl that you will cook it in. If chocolate, get a cup of boiling water, a couple of teaspoons of cocoa powder and some sugar. Mix an pour it on hot. Dump the lot into a preheated oven and just bake as long as recommended. Or chuck it in a microwave for about 8 minutes, then test. The top will be a bit gooey looking, but will dry while standing. Split it between 4 cups, if you want individual servings and a couple of minutes for each. Or in an oven for about 15. Greetings from Dimboola in Victoria, Australia.
Been making it for years in South Africa , served hot with ice cream and custard as pudding. We call deserts pudding here!
this recipe was in a kid's cookbook i had called the "magic spoon cookbook", and it was one of the first cake recipes i made by myself. thanks for making this emmy!
Omg, I had that book as well! I loved it so much!
@@user-wm1oo4os7e ahhh i'm so glad someone else remembers it! 🥰
Hershey’s has a version of this with brown sugar instead of cane sugar and it creates a fudgey sauce. It’s so good!
Whereeee
I’ve always been told to use brown sugar
I have made this cake for years…it was called baked fudge dessert. There was an option for 1/2 chopped walnuts. You can also use leftover coffee instead of water for a mocha treat!
Try using boiling water instead of cold…the sauce will be more like a slightly runny pudding texture. Spoon the cake and sauce over ice cream.
My family calls this type of cake "Saucy hot-fudge pudding cake." It is a long-standing favourite of ours! It is really good served while warm with ice cream! 🤤
I made one of these and brought it to work for a potluck. Walked into the break room and found a coworker had eaten practically the entire cake by himself, straight from the baking dish. I knew it was good but dang, it was gone before everyone got a chance to try a bit.
tht would be me
I wish I could have the impulse to do that.
But then again, there'd be cake retaliation.
That's a bit rude of him
Yeah that’s super rude of him, he could have made sure everyone tried it first at least
"Have you ever eaten four feet of a six foot party sub?" is all i can think of
I knew this as sponge pudding and, from fishing trips to Canada, we would buy a couple boxes of mix. Usually made one while on vacation and brought the others home since we liked it but couldn’t find the boxes in stores in Ohio. I have seen recipes for this in various cookbooks and Golden Corral used to serve a version of this in their dessert section. It’s really good served over ice cream. The evolved form of this is chocolate lava cake.
This was one of my family favorite recipes when I was in high school. It was in a little recipe book that was given to home ec cooking classes in central New York. All my cookbooks we're lost in an arson fire. So I'm glad to find this recipe. The chocolate pudding cake I made didn't have brown sugar in it...not so much Suger but more cocoa. I can't remember the full recipe, but after seeing yours I'm going to try it again. Thank you!
You are so kind and your kindness knows no bounds. Keep going.x
Always blows my mind the recipes with the word water in it like water pie and water cake, love to watch your Depression era test cooking!
Tip for you Emmy...the cover on most vanilla bottles holds 1 teaspoon. My mom taught me this, and if you measure it you'll see for yourself. That way there is no waste, any remaining just dips back into the bottle. Also for imitation vanilla she said always use 2 teaspoons for the best flavor. Always double it. This recipe should make a pudding layer...not an icing. Used to make a cake like this for my dad and my husband. But it was called a pudding cake, and the pudding under it was just like hot homemade pudding. Thicker than your sauce, but oh so yummy.
It's also the same sort of concept as a cobbler. You put fruit on top, the pastry bakes, floats over the fruit, and it sauces the bottom.
Love that you help to resurrect these recipes 💕 so thankful for that ❣️❣️❣️
I'm also from NZ kids love'self saucing choc pudding. Always used boiling water not cold and if u want a thicker sauce add some cornflour to sugar and cocoa mix .
My mom started making a cake like this in my teens and I still make it occasionally. We call it Hot Fudge Pudding Cake and our version is all mixed in the baking dish and for the "topping" we use just brown sugar, it makes a thicker fudgier sauce. We would usually have it with vanilla icecream or cool-whip, so good!
This seems just like the Sauce'N Cake instant cake mixes. I used to love them as a kid, and they had lemon, caramel, chocolate, and rum and butter. Super easy to make and very tasty.
I have this book and a few others all passed down through family, love them and the recipes they come with but what makes the books even better is all the illustrations and snippets of poems and sayings ❤🥰😊
We're sending Emmy cookbooks now? I've gotta find my copy of Patrick McManus's "Whatchagot Stew" cookbook. She'd have a blast flipping through that and trying some of the more unusual recipes.
I made this all the time in my childhood! It was an absolute favorite recipe. Our recipe came from an ancient Hershey’s cocoa powder label.
This is similar to the chocolate lava cake my mom would make. It was super chocolaty, and had the consistency of a cross between bread pudding and a brownie with a thick, syrupy sauce.
I've seen this called "chocolate cobbler." You can substitute strong coffee for the water to cut the sweetness.
Emmy is like an stress reliever for me ❤
Same I’ve been sick the last two weeks (abscess, COVID, and now I ran out of stomach meds) and been binging her content to help relax.
This reminds me of the “lemon delicious” or “lemon self saucing” puddings I grew up eating here in Australia!!🥰
We used to get those in boxes here in Canada, like a cake mix but with the sauce business that happens.
Lemon?! Recipe please!!!❤
@@sallycormier1383 , I did a search for "Lemon Pudding Cake" and found a few recipes using those search parameters. May try that and find one that you like.
I genuinely love your channel, I have been watching you for years and your creativity amazes me. You always know how to switch it up and keep your channel entertaining and I admire that!
A friend of mine made something like this but she mixed the batter and put it in the pan, then mixed the sugar, cocoa and water and poured it over top before baking it. She called it a lava cake. And another friend shared a "raisin pudding" recipe done in a similar manner where you make the batter (which if I recall is similar but used baking powder and no cocoa, and I always used dried cranberries cause I don't like raisins) and you mix boiling water with butter and brown sugar and pour that over before baking, it's a self-saucing puddle of deliciousness. Been too long since I've made that, time to go dig out that recipe!
Instead of plain water, coffee
Mom would make "one egg cakes" which were one layer snack cakes. If the hens were not laying you could make it. Ice with boiled fudge frosting which sets up in a firm layer like a fudge. My husband's Granny made the same thing and I am trying to find the boiled icing recipe.
Self saucing?! Yes please! My best friend and I were talking about this today. I used to make this for a quick warm dessert. I have also made the lemon version.
what the lemon version
Please give us the recipe for the lemon version! I love anything lemon. ❤
@@relax2dream164 I will have to find it. I haven't made it in the last 30 years.
@@relax2dream164 I haven't found it yet but, I looked on Google for lemon pudding cake and found two that are a lot like mine. One is from NYT Cooking and the other is from Once Upon a Chef. I think you will be happy with either of these.
"upside down cake" wouldn't that suggest putting it on the plate upside down, so the sauce is on top. (tho I realize that it's rather soupy, but, like you said, maybe cook longer)
Thanks for the recipe. I actually have all the ingredients for this. I'll have to give it a try next time I go to dinner at my friend's house. They love chocolate cake. (I'd rather have white or yellow. 😊)
This is one of the first recipes I learned as a kid. It's foolproof and the results are so satisfying. I got the recipe out of my mom's old Betty Crocker cookbook. I still make it from time to time.
My momma made this all the time growing up! We call it hot fudge cake. Our measurements are a tad different and no lard. We use hot water. The sauce is thicker than yours too. Served with vanilla ice cream. I always make it for company. Everyone loves it and it’s so easy to do. Don’t have to worry about messing it up. 😁
As an Appalachian I have to recommend you try biscuits with chocolate gravy. It's a cooked chocolate pudding poured on biscuits as a simple dessert and a lot of good childhood memories there
she actually has a video of her making some! looks amazing 😊 ua-cam.com/video/IP_yEnSEq7c/v-deo.html
This is almost exactly like the Warm Fudgy Pudding Cake recipe from The Kitchn's website. Only differences are that they use 2 tablespoons of melted butter instead of 4 tablespoons? of shortening, the butter, milk, and vanilla were mixed together and poured into the dry ingredients, it was baked at 375F for like 40-45 mins in a greased 8x8 inch pan. I think the melted butter, even if it's a lesser amount than the solid shortening actually made the batter a bit looser so it spread more easily into the pan for me (it's been a few months since I last made this), but it baked up almost exactly the same, crackly/shiny top, cake that's nice and moist, and a layer of fairly thick pudding at the bottom of the pan. This cake is good from the fridge too, either as is with the even thicker pudding sauce or reheated for like 20 seconds in the microwave. My mom likes to eat it cold straight from the fridge when we have leftovers but I prefer reheating it. Great with vanilla ice cream too!
Betty Crocker 's hot fudge pudding cake recipe, except that one has nuts and a small bit of shortening. Also calls for HOT water, not cold. I love this cake! Next try her lemon pudding cake!
You have to have vanilla ice cream with it while it's still hot, it's a comfort dessert in my house.
Great review as always Emmy! Ty for staying consistent all these years! Ur the best!
Thank you!
@@emmymade my pleasure
I made desserts at Cracker Barrel 20 years ago when chocolate cobbler was on the menu. It was the same as this. It was called cobbler because the top and bottom swap places during baking, that's the only thing it had in common with fruit cobbler. The batter came to the restaurant premade, where it was spread into a pan and topped with water before baking. It was then spooned out from the pan into a small bowl and topped with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. The batter contained nuts. If it had already cooled, the indivual serving was microwaved before topping with ice cream. It was the restaurant's most popular dessert at the time, and I'm sure many people grieved the loss when the menu changed.
Family favourite, I definitely suggest adding coarsely chopped toasted walnuts and serving with fresh cream, it's a game changer
I think if it cooled more ythe sauce would thicken up. You are supposed to flip it over when you serve it. I think I would put some flour in the sauce mix to thicken it up.
I have an idea for possibly a future $2 recipe, when I was young my dad would whip together this meal when he needed something fast and created it originally with whatever we had in the pantry at the time. It’s just spaghetti noodles, tomato paste, and any sort of cream cheese, I prefer Philadelphia. I like to add garlic too but that’s optional. Without the garlic it’s a three ingredient meal, and absolutely delicious. I still enjoy it to this day 😊
This is an old familiar recipe... It probably has as many names as there are bakers... I first tasted it in 1974. The lady who made it for us called it Chocolate Lush Cake. She baked hers in a 9 inch square cake pan & said the recipe didn't double well, just make more than one if you needed more. Also she didn't cut the cake, she served it with a large spoon. It was luscious! If you want to choc out, serve it with a scoop of chocolate ice cream & a drizzle of chocolate syrup!
I used to make this for my kids in the 80s. We called it Chocolate Pudding Cake. We mixed it all by hand in a 8" square pan. Very simple. There was also a lemon version.
Any chance for the ingredient list for the lemon version, please? 👀🍋
Yes please!
I may need that lemon version. 🍋 😏
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My grandma's recipe of this cake bakes at 375 degrees and the mixture at the bottom is thicker. It is almost like a pudding consistency
For some reason I want to call this Hot Fudge chocolate cobbler. My mom made this when we were kids and I made it a few times as a teenager. I was thinking I needed her recipe the other day.
One of my cookbooks does call this one chocolate cobbler.
we make this cake all the time but we always called it hot fudge sundae cake. The cocoa and brown sugar make such a good sauce for ice cream.
What a unique recipe! I'd love a vanilla or lemon or cinnamon version. I wonder whether the temperature in the recipe (357 degrees) was a transposition typo.
I found a recipe very similar to this one called Brownie Pudding. It's basically the same but the sauce is much thicker like pudding. it's pretty fantastic.
When I bake a chocolate cake I will use cocoa powder to flour My Pan rather than using flour so that way I don't have this white dust all over my chocolate cake .
As other of my fellow Australians and even our neighbours over in NZ, we call them self saucing pudding, my mum used to make these often, very delicious and great with vanilla ice-cream, great video Emmy 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘Cheers from Melbourne Australia
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Chocolate pudding cake!! My kids ask for it ALL the time!! We mix it right in the baking pan and no dishes to wash!! Recipe is a bit different but same foundation. So good and easy
This looks pretty tasty! I bet this could be adapted into an AWESOME chocolate mug cake recipe!
As others have said, we make something very similar to this in Aotearoa/ New Zealand and in Australia. We eat it warm/hot with icecream or whipped cream although l can testify it's pretty good cold for breakfast. 😋 Because it's served as a pudding, it doesn't matter so much about greasing the dish so, I use the same pyrex casserole dish to melt the butter, mix it and cook it. If you want a prettier pudding, by all means use a separate bowl to mix etc. and, if you like a softer top cover it with a lid. Here's a microwave version. If you prefer, this same recipe can be baked in the oven for about the same time as the "cake".
Easy Self Saucing Chocolate Pudding
Ingredients
Pudding
1 Tbsp Butter, melted
1/2 cup Milk
1 tsp vanilla essence
3/4 cup White Sugar
1 cup Plain Flour (if using Self Raising Flour, omit the Baking Powder)
1 tsp Baking Powder (if using Self Raising Flour, omit the Baking Powder)
2 Tbsp cocoa powder
Sauce
3/4 cup Soft Brown Sugar
1/4 cup cocoa powder
1 1/2 cups boiling water
Method
Pudding
Melt the butter in a deep microwave proof bowl/serving dish. Add the Milk, followed by the vanilla essence. Sift in the flour, cocoa and baking powder (if using) - mix until "globby". Scrape down the sides and smooth the top.
Sauce
In a large measuring cup, mix the Soft Brown Sugar with the cocoa and sprinkle over top of pudding mixture. Use the same cup to measure the boiling water and pour it over the back of a spoon onto pudding batter.
Microwave on high for 10 minutes.
Enjoy!
you know, I was wondering about using same dish, thanks for clarifying
@@mimosveta No worries. Not sure if it's because it's pyrex but, been doing it for about 40 years and never had a problem. 😁
My family has a recipe similar to this but is called chocolate pudding cake and the sauce is thicker like pudding and it cooks for 45 minutes and the cake batter is mixed in the pan you bake it in then the coco mixed with two types of sugar is put on top with the water and put in the oven.
It's a quick dessert to make of you need one and the baking can be timed to be ready out of the oven hot when it's time for dessert. Nothing like seeing the pudding bubbling out of the cake. It can be served with ice cream or whipped cream.
My grandma gave me the recipe.
We’d call this a self-saucing pudding. Serve warm with cream and/or ice cream. (A regular chocolate cake can be made into a self-saucing pudding. Just add brown sugar, cocoa and hot water on top and bake as normal. Even better with chunks of chocolate in the cake mix so you get melted chocolate chunks in the pudding too!)
My partner makes this. It's a dupe for the old country buffet hot fudge sundae cake. Best served warm with vanilla ice cream.
Exactly. :)
@@emmymade omg Emmy responded and highlighted my comment. #madeit 😊❤️
"Never in my days", she says, while wearing a shirt that reads "these are the days."
My mom called it "brownie buckle". Substitute the cocoa to more flour and spoon batter over cut fruit. Sugar flour mixture on the top, then pour over the water. I've got a lemon and a maple version too.
This is like my grandmother's peach cobbler recipe. The dough went in the pan, then you poured the wet can of peaches on top of it. The peach is all synced to the bottom along with the sweetened juice and the dough floats to the top.
I actually cringed when hydrogenated vegetable was added to any recipe, instead of butter. Back in the day it was the way of saving money. I'd love to send you the recipe for my grandmother when I find it and have you try it.
I read a lot of these comments and I was surprised at how many people have actually heard of this albeit by different names. I have never ever heard of this cake before. I will have to make it for my family. Looks interesting. Thank you for sharing.
I live in Indiana & I've never heard of it before either...sounds like there are several flavor versions, like lemon!🍋 I'm definitely going to try it.
This reminds me of chocolate gravy! My southern-born husband raves about biscuits with chocolate gravy...have you ever made chocolate gravy, Emmy? We've watched almost every video you've ever made and I can't remember chocolate gravy, ever...anyway, it would be SO neat to see you do a chocolate gravy episode! (Red-eye gravy is a southern breakfast delicacy as well!)
Perhaps you have already found it, but she sure has made chocolate gravy! 😁 ua-cam.com/video/IP_yEnSEq7c/v-deo.html
When I was little, I would spend a week with my grandparents every summer. I remember my grandmother teaching me to make a very similar cake during those visits.
From the thumbnail I thought this video was going to be about brownies but I love that this was about chocolate cake instead! 🍰
We call this chocolate cobbler in Mississippi. There is a restaurant called Seafood Junction in Algoma that always has it. It's amazing with soft serve.
I make a recipe just like this but it is a pudding cake. Which is a cake that makes a self pudding layer under the cake.
That's the way we prepped cake pans before parchment paper. I still prefer that way as the cake doesn't stick & bakes better IMO.
I actually dust my pan with cocoa powder with or without tad bit of flour mixed in after greasing it. It actually works well.
This is like the Chocolate version of Pudding Chomeur which originated in Quebec, but instead of maple syrup it's water, sugar and cocoa powder
We used to make this all the time when I was growing up, and we called it brownie pudding cake. Always served it with vanilla ice cream, with sauce over the top! Super tasty, very easy. And we never bothered cutting it, just served it all with a spoon, cake and sauce together.
I love this recipe! I love your videos. I wanted to know if you ever heard of or made a Sans Rival cake? It is basically layers of meringue with a rich French buttercream. It is gluten free and is amazing. I have looked up recipes and it seems way beyond my skill set, but you make everything look completely easy, that is why I asked. I have only ever had it once, but it is, in my opinion, without rival as its name suggests.
Yes, I have made this many times. In a 9 inch square pan. It was called a hot fudge cake. I use a boxed mix. Or a quick, flour, and oil , sugar batter.
My family makes a version of this but we call it "half hour pudding" pretty much the only difference is for the sauce we use boiling water and devolve the cocoa and sugar and then poor over top befor baking. One of my favorites 😍 we would always add a little bit of ice cream OR a splash of whipping cream
We make something like this called 'hot fudge sundae cake' in my house! It's soo good, we serve it warm on top of icecream 😋. I actually just made it a couple weeks ago for my sil, lol. Her mom's recipe is the one we use 😊.
I also use a "glug" of vanilla for my recipes!
We call this chocolate cobbler. Mine starts woth melted sticks of butter in the bottom, then a white batter, then the cocoa, sugar and boiling water. Then bake. Delish!
My mom had that cookbook and i am pretty sure we had this cake growing up.❤️
Ooh this is actually very similar to a self saucing chocolate pudding recipe we have in the UK. At the end you use boiling hot water (which is a bit scary to work with but such an easy foolproof recipe) to pour over everything and when it's cooked there's a lovely sauce at the bottom.
It's also called Chocolate Brownie Pudding. I always add a bit more cocoa & we eat it with vanilla ice cream or whipped cream 😋
I found a cake like this in our church cook book, called a Hot Fudge Pudding Cake, and we love it! It's a great one to make for my husband because he can't have dairy, which can make icing a little tricky. Ours doesn't have brown sugar in the topping though, I'd like to try that!