I was feeling unsure of the video. I was asking myself is this real, or a simulator? Then, I realized I wasn’t connected to my wi-fi. Then after connection, details and smoothness improved. Lol what are the odds that I’ve only found VRF yesterday. And as a child, plus one trip as adult, I’ve taken the southwest chief from Los Angeles to Ft. Madison to see family in Keokuk, Is. so, I browsed and found FRF. I should go to Vegas and bet the house. Or did I use up my luck finding this. 😂
@@michaelrasmussen426 The train stopped so quickly because the friction of the train against the bridge or whatever is far greater than braking. It probably would've stopped at about that point regardless of braking, assuming the brakes were not applied until the derailment occurred. If there were no brakes, the cars behind might've pushed it a bit further- but once a train is off its tracks it stops real quick!
I just made the same comment about the crew potentially “messing their drawers” when the locos started to tip towards the end, ESPECIALLY with this happening on a bridge, when I e-mailed the link to a railfan cousin of mine. Cleaning this mess up is going to be really tough with it happening on a bridge, hopefully VRF will be covering that the same way they did the Horseshoe Curve derailments NS had last year. Thankfully looks like no injuries at least.
Virtual Railfan just paid for itself! Because of these cams, they will prove vital for UP in the investigation of this derailment. What a great system VR is! Hope more and more go up!
True - I hope the recognize how much this will help them, I get the sense usually railway companies regard railfans as a nuisance. In any industry it seems fans who video things are regarded as a nuisance until they manage to catch something important on video, then they are extremely valuable - though sometimes the companies still won't admit it.
Not as helpful as you think. UP will download inward and outward cameras, engine telemetry from all units and sync all the data for crew train handling. The video is a bonus but not necessary to determine cause. Signal. Track and Mechanical are also investigated.
No offense but I think Jim Bridge is right. It might be a "little something more", but the rail company isn't going to be thankful than we hope for. News networks might be willing to pay though...
@@nkt1 Not necessarily. The initial cause may be concealed by damage caused by subsequent axles going over the same point. Imagine when you poke a bust zipper, the hole spreads from the initial problem.
Holy cow! I can't imagine what the engineer was thinking as the motor started tilting to the right. I'm very glad the train did not leave the bridge. My goodness!!
I just imagine "shitshitshitshitshit!" Was probably afraid it could tumble off the bridge, which would have been quite the wild ride. Maybe debating if he'd be better off to try to secure himself in the cab or jump overboard before the train took it's tumble.
@@mrbluesky2050 Right. Until they verify damage to the trestle won't cause it to collapse onto the tracks below. Talk about bringing a whole yard to a standstill.
Glenn Cartwright Yards. BNSF Argentine in KCK, BNSF Murray in North KC and UP Armourdale in KCK. Plus trains parked up and down several subs. Namely BNSF Fort Scott, Mercelinne, possibly the Transcon out of Argentine to Chicago.
I must agree. The only rail line with dirtier engines that UP is CSX. With CSX it’s not as noticeable because of their dark blue paint scheme, but they are filthy.
They are so lucky that nothing toppled over or accordioned through the railings. They would've fallen right off the trestle! I can't even begin to imagine the pucker factor for the crew as those locos started to lean over. It's gonna take some big cranes to re-rail this mess. The normal crawler cranes won't work that high off the ground. I also can't help but wonder how many cars broke loose inside those carriers and went crashing forward into each other.
One Leighberr LR 1100 has a lift capacity of 200,000 lbs at a hoist height of 225ft. It's not even a big crawler either. They have crawlers ranging from 10T to 600+ Ton hoist limits. Up to 600ft hoist height.
@@aquilarossa5191 nah, it was secondary to having the golden spike repossessed. ;) Seriously though, yeah, totally looks to be track maintenance related - specifically, the lack thereof.
I thought the same! All it needed was the engines to slip and pull the whole set down and those guys most probably wouldn’t have made it out unscathed...
Also note the timestamp at the top. The train came to a halt at 7:50. The workers started by inspecting the far side of the train at 8:03, and didn't start on the close side till 8:17, giving things plenty of time to finish settling into a stable position.
That's several hundreds thousand in lost time, repair and damage. Could be millions if they need to replace bridge sections. Never good to see this kind of thing, Hope everyone is alright both physically and psychologically. This is why trains sometimes go slow so anyone bitching about slow trains at rail crossing should watch this and imagine what would have happened if that train had been going even 10% faster. Hope those beautiful engines get fixed up and back in service ASAP.
@@michaelbardwell6398 but the profits! The profits come first, unfortunately. Have a friend who works for one of the southeastern rail companies and it's all profit over safety and paying the employees a good wage.
In this country,highways have priority,and railroads are second or third class citizens! Everyone is equal,but some are more equal than others,( a slight change from Orwell)! The public knows what makes the nation tick,but the aroma of money,keeps the political class happy! Empires fall from within,and the rot is particularly deep now!
@@roberthuron9160 Well, the highways are supposed to be paid for out of the taxes paid on every gallon of fuel sold. Do the railroads have a similar tax to pay for their upkeep? Not as far as I know. The railroads also tend to be privately owned which makes it the responsibility of the property owner to keep it working. Of course the corps don't want to spend on upkeep.
The problem is,that most of the highway taxes,DO NOT COVER THE COSTS! The Highway Trust Fund is only for building the roads,NOT MAINTAINING THEM(OOPS)! To pave(or repave),currently,costs about $10,000,per lane,per mile,and that cost comes out or GENERAL REVENUE,i.e,the non-users,and railroads,and transit passengers! Translated- Cross Subsidies,not accounted for,and buried in the books! See CAFIRS,( Consolidated Annual Financial Returns- the governments real books)!
A piece of something gets thrown up off the track immediately in front of the lead locomotive at 1:13 - that is the point where the trrain goes off the tracks. I wonder what the speed limit is for this stretch of tracks. It seems like this train is going around 20 MPH. What is the chance two people would be watching the exact location where a train derails?
The locomotive derailed about 100 feet before hitting that piece of something. You can hear the locomotives hit the ground at 1:02. Likely a hotbox detector or a signal switch that got smashed off due to the derailed locomotives.
Perfect example on why there are the inner rails on bridge crossings. Good grief that could of been catastrophic for engineer and conductor. Awesome catch VR.
My dad was a track inspector for BN/BNSF. And he had about a 100 mile section of track that he inspected/worked on every morning 5 days a week, sometimes every day when it gets cold, for years on end. I dunno if UP does the same thing, but I do know that theres other specialized guys that do inspections/work on other things like bridges, electrical, etc.
This is a prime example for rail fans to not get too close to the tracks! could you imagine some place like La Plata and that happened at the Amtrak platform!? Run for your lives! Or be the first car at a grade crossing? Thank God no one was hurt? I hope!
That track is destroyed though annd some damage to the beridge but yea if the train was heavier the carriages could have pushed it further and it may nave fallen off the bridge.
The derailment starts at 0:14 on the first scene, then at 1:05 on the second scene, then at 1:55 on the third scene. You cab hear it, even though you can’t see it for a few seconds after the initial derailment. Before the derailment starts the train is running smooth and not making that grinding sound that starts as soon as something derails. I watched it several times and it looks like it starts with the rear truck on the lead engine.
Looking at Google Earth, there's a track switching point right there. My guess, it's a junction failure, so the tracks weren't aligned which caused it to jump the rails.
Good investigation! We can see just before it derails something being kicked up in front of the locomotive, would suspect that maybe something got caught on the locomotive's plow, either a piece of damaged track or this caused damage to the track.
Good find. That's the most interesting track junction I've ever seen, very cool! I think your guess is pretty spot on, happened right inside the Kansas side of the border.
So, How did they fix that?? Do they have a crane on a train flatbed with outriggers, or do they just use wood blocks to get a regular truck mounted crane over the rails without damaging anything?
It’s a wonder the whole bridge didn’t collapse under the inertial and gravity loads placed on it during this event. Are there any videos of the cleanup of this mess?
All the derailments that happen all over the country, and we get a very small fraction of them on video. It's more of a testament to the proliferation of cameras than anything else.
@@macgyveratlarge2133 I guess. I have no fear / hate / love / opinion on cops, other than that they are human, and this idea we hold that they should be infallible is crazy. Humans will do bad things, and we need humans to do police jobs. We don't have Robocop yet. So, yes, cameras will catch humans doing bad things. Police, civilian, military, and other. "Us vs. Them," or should I say, "The Public vs. Police" can take a friggin' leap off the nearest cliff, though. Humans need to seriously learn - right now, today - that the actions of the few don't really give you any information about the actions of the whole. I learned this when I was seven years old (about 40 years ago.) It's depressing that the rest of the adult world cannot catch up. Really sad.
This should be a good reminder when rail fanning to be aware of how close we stand to the tracks. I know its cool to get them close ups, but we never know what can happen at any giving moment! Be safe guys and girls! Glad no one was injured! A little bondo and some paint on them engines they will be back to work in no time!
You can derail at 5 miles per hour on a straight, looks like the tracks were not secured any longer going off the end of the video, if they were out of line that would do it
Rails roll all the time because the class ones are too busy trying to cheap out on maintenence so that upper management can get quaterly bonuses but yet they will do every thing in their power to place blame on the train crew first instead of their shotty rail. Railroads really are the epitome of corporate greed.
any number of things could have done it...sudden break in one rail as the loco went over it...could have been a broken rail or open joint before the train got there...could have been a combination like a marginal loco wheel and a place where the gauge was barely in spec...could have been wide gauge...could have been a bunch of sketchy ties allowing the rails to spread...a hole in the deck could have let ballast drain out and create a "soft" spot in the track under one rail
Yep. I have no idea how they're gonna rerail the locomotive and cars ON A BRIDGE! The locomotive tilted so much, it will be impossible to use the frogs.
@@sleeptyper Actually they just brought in a crane capable of lifting 500t and lifted it right up. Watching it on the livestream now, started around 03:00 CDT
Yeah, I was glad to see the person walking around in the lead engine - and hope there was nobody else hurt. I also think as soon as the engines started making sounds, that they hit the emergency. I think it's a very good example of why people should be extra careful around railroad tracks - look how far after the original problem that the train traveled with the cars and engines ripping up tracks and ties (and maybe had brakes activated). Accidents happen - and the good news is that this one didn't jump off of the bridge!
@@peterhaan9068 (LAUGH!) I wouldn't be at all surprised that he or she was pretty shook up. The way the engine was shaking and swaying and bouncing - I'd be surprised if they could stay in the seat or on their feet, unless they had seat belts. I'd like to see a condensed version of the rescue and cleanup. It would be very interesting to see how they would deal with them all being on a bridge.
Lol actually it was the BNSF guys because they are the ones who have to make the repairs. It was on the KCT railway but is maintained by BNSF. UP is responsible for the costs.
I liquidated the Union Pacific Railroad office building in St. Louis, MO (formerly the Mo-Pac Building). I have tons of UP train decals that they left behind.
This should be an important reminder that if you are standing near the tracks with a bicycle, stroller, or anything, and you are in a car, stay back in case you hear that derailment sound...I was about 8 or 9 years old when I saw a train derail; there actually was two at the same time. The trains had a meet, but one set of railcars leaned on the other train. What a mess. This was a bit scary though. The bridge held up.
I was expecting to see the guy with the tripod on his phone to call for help. I realise the train has communications, but just saying. Is he a spotter/enthusiust or just a surveyor or someone who happened to be there?
I rarely experience derails, what really annoys me is forgetting to press the acknowledge button when passing the yellow signal and triggering the emergency brake
There's a freight line that runs through my town and part of it goes right past my neighbors houses a few blocks away. Something like this is always a mild anxiety whenever I hear an improperly lubricated wheel squeal as a train rattles through town. Then again, that anxiety has deep roots that go back to my childhood when we lived in a house that was a half block from a railroad track that ran on top of a 20-some foot hill of ballast and every night for the first couple months we lived in that house I would lie in bed and worry that the train was going to derail, roll down the hill and wipe out every house on that block (it was actually a triangular half block with our house on the corner and two duplexes flanking it to either side like Canadian geese in formation.)
There’s no such thing as a lubricated train wheel. They have sealed bearings that never need lubrication and routinely outlast the wheel itself. That squeal is the steel wheel flange running on the steel rails.
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but people are always at this camera getting pictures of the trains passing in that exact spot, it's quite the spot.
Wow! That could have been so much worse. I have a double line that runs 15 yards behind my house, derailments are the only fear I have from the train. So far in 7 years, so good.
Unfortunate for railroad that it happened on a bridge and it will cost even more to re-rail those locomotives but thankfully everyone walked away. Whoever took the video was lucky to be in the right place at the right time to catch it all. It would be interesting to know exactly what caused it.
One thing's for sure: nobody can accuse VRF of clickbait!
I was feeling unsure of the video. I was asking myself is this real, or a simulator? Then, I realized I wasn’t connected to my wi-fi. Then after connection, details and smoothness improved. Lol what are the odds that I’ve only found VRF yesterday. And as a child, plus one trip as adult, I’ve taken the southwest chief from Los Angeles to Ft. Madison to see family in Keokuk, Is. so, I browsed and found FRF. I should go to Vegas and bet the house. Or did I use up my luck finding this. 😂
But rail sabotage is still fair game!
The sons of Bin Laden and the sons of Baghdadi sabotage the magic carpets made of steel!
@@Cjnw go play with your Qanon idiot friends
So who put banana skins on the track and then set up cameras to get the clickable video? Come on, own up :D
Disaster Recovery - Step one: Clean and disinfect driver seat.
@@rylencason4420 i'm liking the best i can but it wont go over 9000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL just throw it away
rear speaker imagine the fine they’ll cop
I think they looked for it and couldn't find it anywhere!
@@Chris-qg6kc you are on a bridge in a 300,000+ lb locomotive, and you think that they maybe should jump off?
To where, may I ask?
I'm so grateful for the hard working people who do this job on a daily basis!!! God bless them!!!
As long as no one got hurt, that’s what matters. Amazing how well it was documented.
not that your everyday catches aren't catches... But HOLY COW, legit caught the whole derailment in amazing quality. This is A CATCH!
Almost like he knew it was going to happen...... hmmmmm
Very suspicious....2nd camera pointed at wrong place on purpose.
Kind of makes you wonder when a train derails and someone just happens to be there video recording .
The quality of the picture is PHENOMENAL!
Looked like they were going to fast and tried to slow down too hard making the kead engine jump the tracks.
The real MVP is the guy who built that guard rail.
No the conductor stoping on a dime before the bridge...
@@michaelrasmussen426 The train stopped so quickly because the friction of the train against the bridge or whatever is far greater than braking. It probably would've stopped at about that point regardless of braking, assuming the brakes were not applied until the derailment occurred. If there were no brakes, the cars behind might've pushed it a bit further- but once a train is off its tracks it stops real quick!
Yes, because without that guard rail, no guard rail would have been bent.
@@michaelrasmussen426 Conductor doesn't operate the train. It's the engineer that does.
That guard rail did almost nothing at all. It is there for workers and light equipment.
A derailment is never something anyone wants, the most important thing is this, no one was injured or killed, right now I'd be changing my shorts.
Got that right !!
Shorts , pants , socks , shoes
I just made the same comment about the crew potentially “messing their drawers” when the locos started to tip towards the end, ESPECIALLY with this happening on a bridge, when I e-mailed the link to a railfan cousin of mine. Cleaning this mess up is going to be really tough with it happening on a bridge, hopefully VRF will be covering that the same way they did the Horseshoe Curve derailments NS had last year. Thankfully looks like no injuries at least.
especially if you're the engineer or conductor!
Exactly!
Virtual Railfan just paid for itself! Because of these cams, they will prove vital for UP in the investigation of this derailment. What a great system VR is! Hope more and more go up!
True - I hope the recognize how much this will help them, I get the sense usually railway companies regard railfans as a nuisance. In any industry it seems fans who video things are regarded as a nuisance until they manage to catch something important on video, then they are extremely valuable - though sometimes the companies still won't admit it.
Not as helpful as you think. UP will download inward and outward cameras, engine telemetry from all units and sync all the data for crew train handling. The video is a bonus but not necessary to determine cause. Signal. Track and Mechanical are also investigated.
Won’t it be obvious what caused the derailment just by looking at the wheelsets and track?
No offense but I think Jim Bridge is right. It might be a "little something more", but the rail company isn't going to be thankful than we hope for. News networks might be willing to pay though...
@@nkt1 Not necessarily. The initial cause may be concealed by damage caused by subsequent axles going over the same point. Imagine when you poke a bust zipper, the hole spreads from the initial problem.
Not only did they derail, but they derailed on a BRIDGE. As if going off the rails wasn’t scary enough.
Now play Ozzy crazy train
I was the Engineer on this and the scary part was rolling and going off the side of bridge.
Yea
Chapeau to those who designed this well-built bridge holding the derailed train in one piece! 😊👍
Holy cow! I can't imagine what the engineer was thinking as the motor started tilting to the right. I'm very glad the train did not leave the bridge. My goodness!!
Probably "UNDERWEAR!!!"
I just imagine "shitshitshitshitshit!" Was probably afraid it could tumble off the bridge, which would have been quite the wild ride. Maybe debating if he'd be better off to try to secure himself in the cab or jump overboard before the train took it's tumble.
@@quillmaurer6563 It's not a bridge, it's a viaduct.
pmailkeey You know what he means...
@@millomweb : Why a duck?
I'd say the engineer and conductor were poopin' bricks as the locomotive were leaning over. Holy smokes!!
They'll need new underwear for sure!
I did this at 42mph on a curve. We thought the train was going to come over the top of us. 17 coal empties stacked 3 high behind the rear engine.
S. Michael DeHart aka WVUmounties8 ......yes bricks were layed today
Alco Power ...with razor blades
@Dra6onfly ahhh, the keyboard warriors are out.
The way that there’s so much grinding metal which is heard and then it suddenly goes silent is a little eerie.
Helo
I like how the last sound you hear from the derailing train is "shave and a haircut...", then silence.
I know right? It's so much noise just for a sudden silence. It is eerie.
David Payne That made me laugh.
@@davidpayne4310 I had to go back and listen it, daang you are right
Finally, a video,where the cameraperson doesn’t point at the ground when the event actually happens!
I'm struck by how oddly silent it is once the train hits a full stop.
Welp, no trains over the bridge for a while...
. . and probably not under too. . .
@@mrbluesky2050 Right. Until they verify damage to the trestle won't cause it to collapse onto the tracks below. Talk about bringing a whole yard to a standstill.
wonder what track department guy is on the street now
Glenn Cartwright Yards. BNSF Argentine in KCK, BNSF Murray in North KC and UP Armourdale in KCK.
Plus trains parked up and down several subs. Namely BNSF Fort Scott, Mercelinne, possibly the Transcon out of Argentine to Chicago.
@@mrbluesky2050 haqa
They derailed their only set of semi-clean locomotives!
Ha Ha you're right
The 9104 I believe is the last Sd70AH unit delivered.
next second kiwirail derails the dl 9224
I must agree. The only rail line with dirtier engines that UP is CSX. With CSX it’s not as noticeable because of their dark blue paint scheme, but they are filthy.
now you know how they break them in
They are so lucky that nothing toppled over or accordioned through the railings. They would've fallen right off the trestle! I can't even begin to imagine the pucker factor for the crew as those locos started to lean over. It's gonna take some big cranes to re-rail this mess. The normal crawler cranes won't work that high off the ground. I also can't help but wonder how many cars broke loose inside those carriers and went crashing forward into each other.
One Leighberr LR 1100 has a lift capacity of 200,000 lbs at a hoist height of 225ft. It's not even a big crawler either. They have crawlers ranging from 10T to 600+ Ton hoist limits. Up to 600ft hoist height.
@@LastExile1989 those locos are somewhere around 400k pounds each
@@katokagome4670 well that wouldn't be a guess now would it...🙃
@@bergydermeister5616 from the looks of it it looked like there wasn't anything in the cars
There's cars in those carriers?
Driver: honest boss, it wasn't my fault. It was them pesky kids putting a stack of pennies on the track.
The FBI might want to question that guy that was photographing/taping, at the beginning of the video.
Some of coins were half dollar.
More likely some company scrimping on pennies and not performing adequate track or loco maintenance.
@@aquilarossa5191 nah, it was secondary to having the golden spike repossessed. ;)
Seriously though, yeah, totally looks to be track maintenance related - specifically, the lack thereof.
@@spvillano i think there was a banana on the track
Can’t believe those workers walked under engines listing that much!
I thought the same! All it needed was the engines to slip and pull the whole set down and those guys most probably wouldn’t have made it out unscathed...
More interested in looking tough than being safe.
Also note the timestamp at the top. The train came to a halt at 7:50. The workers started by inspecting the far side of the train at 8:03, and didn't start on the close side till 8:17, giving things plenty of time to finish settling into a stable position.
That's why they make the big bucks! lol
@@starfuryms582 I'd hope that was sarcasm because anything leaning and out of its standard position is never stable unless it is shored up.
The words you never want to say:”Dispatch, we’re on the ground.”
Technically, they weren’t on the ground...
@@norcaldeemichaels Good point
For a train, yes. For an airliner it’s not bad at all.
@@norcaldeemichaels Uh, technically ya they were...
In Australia we say in the dirt
That's several hundreds thousand in lost time, repair and damage. Could be millions if they need to replace bridge sections. Never good to see this kind of thing, Hope everyone is alright both physically and psychologically. This is why trains sometimes go slow so anyone bitching about slow trains at rail crossing should watch this and imagine what would have happened if that train had been going even 10% faster. Hope those beautiful engines get fixed up and back in service ASAP.
That whole area is worn out. To many band aids on a gushing wound
@@michaelbardwell6398 but the profits! The profits come first, unfortunately. Have a friend who works for one of the southeastern rail companies and it's all profit over safety and paying the employees a good wage.
In this country,highways have priority,and railroads are second or third class citizens! Everyone is equal,but some are more equal than others,( a slight change from Orwell)! The public knows what makes the nation tick,but the aroma of money,keeps the political class happy! Empires fall from within,and the rot is particularly deep now!
@@roberthuron9160 Well, the highways are supposed to be paid for out of the taxes paid on every gallon of fuel sold. Do the railroads have a similar tax to pay for their upkeep? Not as far as I know. The railroads also tend to be privately owned which makes it the responsibility of the property owner to keep it working. Of course the corps don't want to spend on upkeep.
The problem is,that most of the highway taxes,DO NOT COVER THE COSTS! The Highway Trust Fund is only for building the roads,NOT MAINTAINING THEM(OOPS)! To pave(or repave),currently,costs about $10,000,per lane,per mile,and that cost comes out or GENERAL REVENUE,i.e,the non-users,and railroads,and transit passengers! Translated- Cross Subsidies,not accounted for,and buried in the books! See CAFIRS,( Consolidated Annual Financial Returns- the governments real books)!
Imagine being the railfan down there, that’s some content he just got
how did he know?
@@andreikashin He didn't know.. smh. He was just raiflanning who happened to get lucky.
I bet this footage was used in the ensuing investigation!!
@@the_minimalistic_adventure railfanning*
Car Dealership: Sorry Sir, Your new car won't be ready for pickup on friday.
Those vehicle carriers appeared empty
@@RickJohnson Like you head.
@@kishascape *your
@All Seeing Eye "BRAND-NEW CAR! Top-notch condition. Only derailed once!"
@@RickJohnson the car carriers are actually autoracks
"Welp, time to go home; we'll leave that for the night shift."
“Now how exactly are we supposed to get off this, jump off and die?”
Union Pacific have become the new CSX: Moving Yesterday's Freight Tomorrow.
El Ectric wait isn’t that csx?
WE WILL (not) DELIVER!
@@tomnook2612 no, CSX's is How Tomorrows Freight moves Next Week
@@rearspeaker6364 Crash, Spill, eXplode.
LOL
That must be terrifying for the crew
You know it's happening your just along for the ride
Hope they were wearing Depends!!
Especially a bridge, where you're worried you could get pushed from the behind cars over the edge.
@@roadmonkeytj Just riding it out and hoping for the best. I still imagine it wouls be rather scary.
@@cup_and_cone - it looks like the airbrake system worked to stop the behind cars. !
Wow glad no one was hurt & it didn't fall off of bridge. Thank God.
Crazy, not even sure why this was recommended to me, but that’s about 15 miles from my house.
Google moves in mysterious ways.
You answered your own question. They see all.
The hills have eyes.
@@rickdavis3593 And heads, shoulders, knees and toes!
Knees and toes
Just curious, when was the viaduct last inspected, or were management going to do it the next day.
Retired Irish Rail Craftsmen.
Ur a riot Irish🤣🤣🤣
Coming to a grinding halt makes a tremendous racket.
Only sounds like that when you're in the ground...
more noises from a container double-stack starting to move with coupling slack "Big Train Goes BOOM and Shakes Camera
Wait till ya get around 60 years old and ya find yourself making same noises like that every morning...
Probablythe best catch I've ever seen. Unbelievable. Hope the guy on the ground uploads his video.
I think the footage from 1:43 is the ground camera.
Maarten Deen no, it’s from higher up and further away than that guy is.
Excellent video. I hope to see a follow up (time lapse) of the removal and repair.
Talk about being in the right place at the right time, that is, if there ever IS a right time for something like this. Fantastic video!
A piece of something gets thrown up off the track immediately in front of the lead locomotive at 1:13 - that is the point where the trrain goes off the tracks. I wonder what the speed limit is for this stretch of tracks. It seems like this train is going around 20 MPH. What is the chance two people would be watching the exact location where a train derails?
The locomotive derailed about 100 feet before hitting that piece of something. You can hear the locomotives hit the ground at 1:02. Likely a hotbox detector or a signal switch that got smashed off due to the derailed locomotives.
Perfect example on why there are the inner rails on bridge crossings. Good grief that could of been catastrophic for engineer and conductor. Awesome catch VR.
I am totally blaming this one on those birds 😜
@Fntoons Studio Relax UA-cam Police. It was a joke. Now take a deep breath and let out a good laugh. Have an awesome day 😎
@@rearspeaker6364 These days we all need a little goofy in our lives.
Fntoons Studio K but there probably wasn’t anything on the tracks and was due to poor maintenance.
@@linkfan95 The only thing on those tracks was the train.
There innocent
When was the last time those rails were inspected?
@@sahlomonic KCT owns the tracks. BNSF are the maintainers. UP has track rights.
My dad was a track inspector for BN/BNSF.
And he had about a 100 mile section of track that he inspected/worked on every morning 5 days a week, sometimes every day when it gets cold, for years on end.
I dunno if UP does the same thing, but I do know that theres other specialized guys that do inspections/work on other things like bridges, electrical, etc.
@@V_E_X_OFFICIAL Thanks for the clarification.
right place at the right time! ? so what did you put on the track to make that happen ?
There was a train derailment just outside of Hope, British Columbia, Canada a week ago. Big mess.
Keep us posted. I would like to see the clean up and re-railing.
Could you imagine the equipment
My first thought, too.
This is a prime example for rail fans to not get too close to the tracks! could you imagine some place like La Plata and that happened at the Amtrak platform!? Run for your lives! Or be the first car at a grade crossing? Thank God no one was hurt? I hope!
I bet the Engineer and Conductor both had a brown moment lol
As fast as the train was going, I'm surprised the damage wasn't any worse.
May well have been if it was fully loaded.
That track is destroyed though annd some damage to the beridge but yea if the train was heavier the carriages could have pushed it further and it may nave fallen off the bridge.
The derailment starts at 0:14 on the first scene, then at 1:05 on the second scene, then at 1:55 on the third scene. You cab hear it, even though you can’t see it for a few seconds after the initial derailment. Before the derailment starts the train is running smooth and not making that grinding sound that starts as soon as something derails. I watched it several times and it looks like it starts with the rear truck on the lead engine.
It's like watching 2020 in review. Only thing missing is a dumpster fire.
rear speaker was it filled with rotting garbage?
Looking at Google Earth, there's a track switching point right there. My guess, it's a junction failure, so the tracks weren't aligned which caused it to jump the rails.
Good investigation! We can see just before it derails something being kicked up in front of the locomotive, would suspect that maybe something got caught on the locomotive's plow, either a piece of damaged track or this caused damage to the track.
@1:12 you can see something
Looks like a points failure, a few reasons why this can happen, dont like to speculate...train was passing over trailing points at the time.
@@thegazman19 looking at the area on google maps and it seems like those points are facing the train
Good find. That's the most interesting track junction I've ever seen, very cool! I think your guess is pretty spot on, happened right inside the Kansas side of the border.
Honestly thought the 2nd car was going over at the end but glad it didn’t
@@bergydermeister5616 I'm pretty sure he was talking about the cars, not the locomotives
Bergy der Meister thanks for the reminder
@@bergydermeister5616 No he wasnt talking about the engines he was really talking about the 2nd car in the consist.
I subscribed cuz this is the first video I’ve seen that wasn’t clickbait
How long does it take to get the odor of the expelled fecal matter out of the cab?
So, How did they fix that?? Do they have a crane on a train flatbed with outriggers, or do they just use wood blocks to get a regular truck mounted crane over the rails without damaging anything?
Bet the engineer and conductor were praying the whole way those locomotives didn't tip over
Amazing that the driver managed to stop like that.
Saved that train 👍
Engineer to wife and kids "UM, Honey, the Choo-Choo had a Boo-Boo."
In my pants...
@Frank Roberts You both have made my day 😆
Station, the Choo-Choo had a Boo-Boo. Over.
Roger. Dispatching cleanup team now.
That rail is jacked up !!! Luckily they weren't going fast. Any video footage of them fixing the derailment ? Thx...
It’s a wonder the whole bridge didn’t collapse under the inertial and gravity loads placed on it during this event. Are there any videos of the cleanup of this mess?
And people just happened to be there with cameras and tripods when this unpredictable event occured.
Take enough video and pictures and you are bound to be in the right spot some time.
All the derailments that happen all over the country, and we get a very small fraction of them on video.
It's more of a testament to the proliferation of cameras than anything else.
Yes. Hence the myriad of compilations of "caught on video" car, train, bus and plane accidents on any video hosting service.
@@mrmustard-mp6ij it's also the item that cops hate and victims of them love.
A great equalizer.
@@macgyveratlarge2133 I guess. I have no fear / hate / love / opinion on cops, other than that they are human, and this idea we hold that they should be infallible is crazy. Humans will do bad things, and we need humans to do police jobs. We don't have Robocop yet. So, yes, cameras will catch humans doing bad things. Police, civilian, military, and other. "Us vs. Them," or should I say, "The Public vs. Police" can take a friggin' leap off the nearest cliff, though.
Humans need to seriously learn - right now, today - that the actions of the few don't really give you any information about the actions of the whole.
I learned this when I was seven years old (about 40 years ago.) It's depressing that the rest of the adult world cannot catch up. Really sad.
VRF.... Time lapse clean up and re-railing / repair vid.... that would be pretty sweet
I hope he makes a time lapse video of the cleanup, once it's done.
What happen on Union Pacific?
I read recently that the preliminary cause was switches in the crossover being out of correspondence, maybe with another circumstance involved.
This should be a good reminder when rail fanning to be aware of how close we stand to the tracks. I know its cool to get them close ups, but we never know what can happen at any giving moment! Be safe guys and girls! Glad no one was injured! A little bondo and some paint on them engines they will be back to work in no time!
it was actually in Kansas when it derailed, the camera is in Missouri.
Way I understand it, Santa Fe Jct., sits on the boarder near the 2 Kansas City’s.
Man with tripod/ camera is in Missouri, engines came to stop in Kansas.
@@MartinMazur *border Thanks for the info.
no problem. Just checking the railroad map app I have, looks like the BNSF Transcon runs through or near it. So does their Fort Scott Subdivision.
The road in the right foreground that crosses 3 tracks while curving right is W. 25th St. turning into State Line Rd. [Edited to correct street name]
How? How did this train derail? Doing barely 20mph on a straight section...
You can derail at 5 miles per hour on a straight, looks like the tracks were not secured any longer going off the end of the video, if they were out of line that would do it
looks to me like there was a tire or something on the rails and that caused the lead loco to jump off...
Rails roll all the time because the class ones are too busy trying to cheap out on maintenence so that upper management can get quaterly bonuses but yet they will do every thing in their power to place blame on the train crew first instead of their shotty rail. Railroads really are the epitome of corporate greed.
any number of things could have done it...sudden break in one rail as the loco went over it...could have been a broken rail or open joint before the train got there...could have been a combination like a marginal loco wheel and a place where the gauge was barely in spec...could have been wide gauge...could have been a bunch of sketchy ties allowing the rails to spread...a hole in the deck could have let ballast drain out and create a "soft" spot in the track under one rail
@@I.T_Worx tracks were not secured that makes no sense Ed🤔
I photographed that bridge from that same vantage point about twenty years ago. Bad timing on my part?
I wonder how long and hard that clean up was.
Am I the only one thinking about clean up and repair already? It's going to be horrible.
Yep. I have no idea how they're gonna rerail the locomotive and cars ON A BRIDGE! The locomotive tilted so much, it will be impossible to use the frogs.
@@kelanianwesterndayser112 Live stream currently shows 2 cranes on the ground below reaching up to the train.
Cranes can easily lift off the empty(?) 20ton cars, but not 100ton locomotives. This is going to tickle a bunch of braincells...
@@sleeptyper Actually they just brought in a crane capable of lifting 500t and lifted it right up. Watching it on the livestream now, started around 03:00 CDT
@@uzlonewolf Well that's excellent. I bet they want the underlying lines open asap.
Yeah, I was glad to see the person walking around in the lead engine - and hope there was nobody else hurt. I also think as soon as the engines started making sounds, that they hit the emergency. I think it's a very good example of why people should be extra careful around railroad tracks - look how far after the original problem that the train traveled with the cars and engines ripping up tracks and ties (and maybe had brakes activated). Accidents happen - and the good news is that this one didn't jump off of the bridge!
If you listen carefully and look into the engineers cab around the 4:17 mark it appears/sounds that the engineer finally turned the engine(s) off!
@@peterhaan9068 (LAUGH!) I wouldn't be at all surprised that he or she was pretty shook up. The way the engine was shaking and swaying and bouncing - I'd be surprised if they could stay in the seat or on their feet, unless they had seat belts.
I'd like to see a condensed version of the rescue and cleanup. It would be very interesting to see how they would deal with them all being on a bridge.
The dislikes are from the UP workers
LIRR Trainspotter oh ya
Or... maybe from the folks who had to wash the poopy pants of the crew !
Lol actually it was the BNSF guys because they are the ones who have to make the repairs. It was on the KCT railway but is maintained by BNSF. UP is responsible for the costs.
And the bnsf guy that gave us the bird lol
@@jmcrossland is there a payment plan?
I liquidated the Union Pacific Railroad office building in St. Louis, MO (formerly the Mo-Pac Building). I have tons of UP train decals that they left behind.
How do they fix something like that?
That would have been terrifying. I can just imagine being in there hoping beyond hope that we don't go over the edge.
This should be an important reminder that if you are standing near the tracks with a bicycle, stroller, or anything, and you are in a car, stay back in case you hear that derailment sound...I was about 8 or 9 years old when I saw a train derail; there actually was two at the same time. The trains had a meet, but one set of railcars leaned on the other train. What a mess. This was a bit scary though. The bridge held up.
can only imagine what that radio chatter was like
What was the cause of the derailment?
I was expecting to see the guy with the tripod on his phone to call for help. I realise the train has communications, but just saying. Is he a spotter/enthusiust or just a surveyor or someone who happened to be there?
I WAS WATCHING IT LIVE OMG
Really.. how exciting.
was that you in the grey suv?
dockterp1 oh no not at all I was just watching the stream
So was I. How do you get to ptz #2?
For train lovers, we never want to see a derailment!😢🚂
Me on Train Sim World 2020 when I accidentally switch from dynamic braking to automatic
Yep
I rarely experience derails, what really annoys me is forgetting to press the acknowledge button when passing the yellow signal and triggering the emergency brake
so what was the cause of this? or is this still under investigation
did the bridge brake ?
Ozzie, did you inspect those rails?
Ozzie: Umm
Train: *crashes*
YIU HAD ONE JOB OZZIE
Hi ozzy I am nuts and crazy and cool
Like you
I've always feared what would've happened if a train derailed on the bridges, luckily nothing fell off the brigde.
Every time, I go under a bridge that a train travels on, I pray that it doesn’t derail!
That's why most bridges have checkrails to stop them getting too close to the edge if they do derail, these days.
Engineer: I think I broke it
Engineer: I write that bad spot up each day I go over it and nothing happens. Well, now they HAVE TO fix it!
Ha lol😂😂😂
Was the derailment / track malfunction caused by the e brake pull or was the track defective?
Speaks volumes of the quality of the track and bridge. Good nobody was hurt.
There's a freight line that runs through my town and part of it goes right past my neighbors houses a few blocks away. Something like this is always a mild anxiety whenever I hear an improperly lubricated wheel squeal as a train rattles through town.
Then again, that anxiety has deep roots that go back to my childhood when we lived in a house that was a half block from a railroad track that ran on top of a 20-some foot hill of ballast and every night for the first couple months we lived in that house I would lie in bed and worry that the train was going to derail, roll down the hill and wipe out every house on that block (it was actually a triangular half block with our house on the corner and two duplexes flanking it to either side like Canadian geese in formation.)
There’s no such thing as a lubricated train wheel. They have sealed bearings that never need lubrication and routinely outlast the wheel itself. That squeal is the steel wheel flange running on the steel rails.
Dang that’s crazy good thing it didn’t fall off the bridge
Suspect #1: the guy in the silver truck who just happened to be there with a camera on a tripod BEFORE it happens...
i know right? seems suspicious to say the least
and what's about the camera man of this video?
I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but people are always at this camera getting pictures of the trains passing in that exact spot, it's quite the spot.
@@wrothgar okay, i don't Know-how that
@@PeachTube That's okay, it was why I was informing you! :)
Wow! Great catch! 👍👍👷♂👷♂
Camera just happen to be there at the right time ? hey where did you get those rail spikes?
The SD70ACe: " Ooh, a Conrail Autorack! Let me take a look.
This video has officially gone off the rails.
GROAN but I'll give you the thumbs up for it. ;-)
You win!
I would love to see the vid of them cleaning this up
Wow! That could have been so much worse. I have a double line that runs 15 yards behind my house, derailments are the only fear I have from the train. So far in 7 years, so good.
Conveniently derailed on the bridge. How do you fix that mess?
Of all the places to derail and getting the equipment necessary to get the back on the rails will be a Challenge.
This is why I tell new guys on the railroad to carry an extra pair in their grip.
Never know when, but, one day, you WILL need them
Unfortunate for railroad that it happened on a bridge and it will cost even more to re-rail those locomotives but thankfully everyone walked away. Whoever took the video was lucky to be in the right place at the right time to catch it all. It would be interesting to know exactly what caused it.
It's not a bridge, it's a viaduct.
Access to the site is fairly good to get cranes in. It could have happened in a lot worse places!
What caused the derailment? Bad or broken track? Looked like they were tooling along just fine until the first loco jumped the rails...
Did you get the video of the clean up