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Thank you!!! I have a small cleaning kit I just bought from them and have not tried. I was going to clean some pennies and nickels that have some corrosion on them. You just saved them!!
The composition of small dollars is a cladding of manganese brass (containing about 77% copper, 12% zinc, 7% manganese, and 4% nickel) over a pure copper core. E-Z-est is a weak concentration of sulfuric acid and thiourea. I think what you are seeing is the sulfuric acid reacting with zinc to form zinc sulphate and hydrogen gas, but I’m not sure why it looks black. It would be interesting to repeat the experiment without the other silver and clad coins present. I think that sulfuric acid needs to be more concentrated and heated in order to affect copper.
Thanks Daniel. When you dropped those coppers in, I cringed 🤐 but I knew you did that to show folks what would happen to them. The silver was interesting to see after 24 hours. I've used E-z-est sparingly before on silver for a quick dunk. Just gotta know to rinse the heck out of them. Thanks for sharing this.
I messed around with eZest around 20 yrs ago & did the same type of experiment. I really don't care for it. I've always noticed that it leaves that crystal effect on most coins even clad, especially where the copper edge is shown. It leaves the copper looking almost pink instead of a red. It's probably best to just use on silver & maybe nickels but it seems that I can tell on the nickels that there's that crystal effect on them too. Great video for those who aren't aware of its effects on coins.
Chemistry can be fun and cool ! Thanks for the experiment Daniel. The copper results were wild !! I wonder how many valuable copper cents, half pennies, large cents, etc have been destroyed using ezest. Sad to think of.
Another great information video, Daniel, about cleaning coins. Now we all know what happens to copper coins in E-Zest. I was just wondering if you are going to make a video on how to remove the crystals off of the copper coins. Thanks again, Daniel, for helping educate everyone about coins and have a great day.
If you put a copper penny, pre-8,2 in with a 1943 steel penny in a solution of CLR, the copper will transfer to the steel penny effectively plating it.
Cool idea . . . 🥶 But I think I'll just use a chunk of copper pipe I have laying around the house. People will think I have one of the rarest of coins. Though, I'll be sure to mark it as a fake.
@@StarATL Yes it does. But a surprising number of ill-informed buyers still manage to get scammed. It's happening every day on eBay - especially with Morgan silver dollars.
The '21 morgan looked burnt. Dipped coins are weird looking when they've been in too long... as short as a couple minutes sometimes. At one angle they're fine and then you turn it and see the haze "uhhh what's that!? 😵💫🤮" It's more noticable on proof coins because you expect a certain level of mirrorness that just isn't there. I've found E-Zest works great on 100% pure nickel. Any time I get an older nickel coin that's high enough grade for my set but has oxidized, E-Zest brightens it way up. That's the only things I use it on is 100% nickel and decent purity silver.
Once you learn to recognize that "burned look" it's hard to forget. Though to me, it's more of a "haze," and it's visible on a lot of silver coins if you hold them at the right angle. I have dipped a few coins but I almost always dilute the solution by 50% with distilled water and watch the coin as the solution starts to work. Once the problem areas are dealt with, I'll leave the rest of the toning on the coin. I've had some "eye-popping" results - turning some of them into fantastic looking coins.
@@rvalens2 I hear a lot of people talking about either diluting the dip, or buying a weaker dip like the lighthouse brand one. I'm kind of scared of the idea because weaker acid means it's going to take longer to get it off, and I just want it in and out as soon as possible. I hold the coin with rubber tongs and watch the tarnish/oxidation dissolve off and then go right to the tap to rinse it. Rarely does it take longer than 8 seconds.
@@TheWinstonDouble I dilute it because I want the reaction to occur slowly, and I want to be able to stop it at just the right point. Because I rarely want to remove all the natural toning - just some of it. I've been able to create some really nicely toned coins from ones that were way too dark or just plain ugly by doing that. Since the toning is usually much heavier around the rim of the coin, it takes longer for the chemical to affect that area. While the center of the coin - where the toning is often thinner - lightens up, creating an eye-dazzling effect. It's too bad UA-cam doesn't allow us to post images. I'd show you some coins I did that too that are stunning when compared to what they originally looked like. Were I to sell them, I've no doubt, I could get twice what I paid for them. I've enjoyed this discussion. Best of luck to you in your future coin endeavors. - Richie
@@TheWinstonDouble Neither. Whatever toning the coin originally had is what you are stuck with. By removing some of the toning, it increases the "contrasting" effect between the light and dark areas - making the visual appeal of the coin more dramatic. Imagine a Morgan silver dollar where the center area of the coin is lighter in toning, but then radiates out into darker tones as it gets nearer the edge. That's what I am after. To me, it makes the coin really "pop." When done correctly, it's really hard for most people to detect - as most of the original toning is still there. To me, the lighter center area looks natural as those tend to get the most wear and handling during circulation. Please Note: I only do this to dark or mottled looking coins. If a coin already looks decent, I leave it alone. By the way, I'm going to delete the word sunburst from my previous post because it seems to have misled you into thinking there would be some coloring to the coin afterwards or that it would become blast white. It doesn't. I hope the above information helps explain why I do this to some coins. - Richie
I've posted before about how I used ezest on copper but obviously not for 24 hours (lol), it's maybe 5 seconds or even less (sometimes just a dunk) just to get that initial layer of off the top of them.
Hi, what type of camera do you use for your coins also I was reviewing your video about the gas bubble coin. I have a dime that the gas bubble looks different. I appreciate your response, thank you.
I didn't know the dollar coins since 2000 are made of copper. I've had the stronger silver dip ruin coins when not washed off right away. I think it's called Speed Dip.
Those coins that are messed up you can take them to your bank and still deposit them if you don’t want them. The bank will send them to the Federal Reserve Bank and they’ll be destroyed. You could make a video telling people what to do with their mutilated money coins/notes.
My guess was emp😂ty container like on the magic show I use a q tip sometimes a little Colgate after to remove dullness. there 25$ 21 Morgan's totally Black
Daniel do you know around what year or decade cleaning a coin become verboten? I think of like Antiques Roadshow and imo it really raised the consciousness for leaving an original surface or patina intact on an item.
I don't know the answer to that either, but in the 70s, my dad and I cleaned a lot of coins, reducing their value by half. We didn't realize it then, but we ruined coins that were already in very nice condition.
@@ulexite-tv thanks, but does that mean at all or not for 24 hrs? I think I saw someone only dip coins in for like 30 seconds, but I've only watched one other video and it was a few weeks ago.
@@CoinHELPu you can’t set an “range of focus” that would allow you to move in and out? The hunting and pecking of the autofocus is nauseating to watch and indicative of a cheap camera.
@@ableaquariums5480 You cannot set a range of focus with a webcam and it's not indicative of a cheap camera either. Auto range focus is for DRLS camera images not video. If my videos are nauseating to watch then you have a personal issue, like some people have with strobe lights. So I recommend you stop watching the videos or take a Dramamine or anti nausea medicine.
@@CoinHELPu I had no idea you were running a webcam. With the size of your channel and the number of videos you have pumped out over the years one would of thought you would have invested in a quality DSLR to provide the best content possible. Something you might want to consider. A 4K DSLR will run you sub $1k and is tax deductible. Tks for sharing what you share.
@numismaticstacker current is generated from metals interacting with each other. That's what a battery is. That's like the most central idea of electronics. You don't get electricity from fire....I mean you do, but only if the energy is captured and used to move metals. That process generates electricity.
I seen a couple vids now an I think it makes them look worse! Not talking about the copper ones. But the silver ones I see that haze your calling it an its visible it just don't look right in my opinion. 🤷
Newbie here, but I've understood that you shouldn't be cleaning coins. Did I miss something or not understanding how you should or shouldn't clean them and when and why to clean them?
I’ve taken off the white milky looking spots and some corrosion spots on steel cents with ezest. The trick is to just pour a little in a bowl and dilute with distilled water 1:1 ratio. I only dip for about 2 seconds and then I gentle rub with a vinyl gloves in a circular motion very lightly. Then rinse in a separate bowl of water and pat dry. Sent off to the grading companies with no problems.
I had gotten my hands on several hundred steel cents in varying stages of terminal rust. Used CLR, just let set until the bubbles stop, which is the zinc oxide corrosion getting removed, then test with a qtip how well the rust comes off. Put back in for 10-15 at a time. When done and dry, you will need a light touch of 3 in 1 oil to coat and wipe off to seal the metal from oxidation resuming, ie rust. Many come out near BU looking.
Agree, 💯% Mothers Aluminum Mag Wheel Polish is very good. I use it too! First, it's always good to start with 120 grit sandpaper. This removes all the stubborn trash on the surface, making less work for the polishing compound. 😊
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What does gold do? I may be wrong but I don't think I've ever seen a video on restoring gold
@tomsrandomness Gold is Gold,let it be.
No Pre 1933 gold? Lol.
@@Manshara2012 That's funny
Do you have a site to recommend where I can send some of my error coins?
Thank you!!! I have a small cleaning kit I just bought from them and have not tried. I was going to clean some pennies and nickels that have some corrosion on them. You just saved them!!
Great information. It's amazing what happened to the copper pieces.
And that’s why you don’t mess with copper! Lol. Thanks for sharing Daniel. Hope you have a great day as well. 😎👍
Interesting experiment. Now we all know what happens. Thanks for sharing, Daniel. 👍👍
(Slow motion) "Noooooooooooooooooooooo!" 😂
Cat hit the keyboard , WOW , sure killed a few. Thank you for the experimental vid , very enlightening , Thanks again
Now I know what happened to many of the cents I have found. Thanks Daniel.
The composition of small dollars is a cladding of manganese brass (containing about 77% copper, 12% zinc, 7% manganese, and 4% nickel) over a pure copper core. E-Z-est is a weak concentration of sulfuric acid and thiourea. I think what you are seeing is the sulfuric acid reacting with zinc to form zinc sulphate and hydrogen gas, but I’m not sure why it looks black. It would be interesting to repeat the experiment without the other silver and clad coins present. I think that sulfuric acid needs to be more concentrated and heated in order to affect copper.
Dag gone that was a great and informative video,that video probably just saved a lot of copper coins lives.
Very useful information. Thanks.
I'm intrigued here Daniel..
Thanks for sharing with us! Those modern dollar coins were toasted, haha.
Thanks Daniel. When you dropped those coppers in, I cringed 🤐 but I knew you did that to show folks what would happen to them. The silver was interesting to see after 24 hours. I've used E-z-est sparingly before on silver for a quick dunk. Just gotta know to rinse the heck out of them. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks for sharing your experimental results!
I messed around with eZest around 20 yrs ago & did the same type of experiment. I really don't care for it. I've always noticed that it leaves that crystal effect on most coins even clad, especially where the copper edge is shown. It leaves the copper looking almost pink instead of a red. It's probably best to just use on silver & maybe nickels but it seems that I can tell on the nickels that there's that crystal effect on them too. Great video for those who aren't aware of its effects on coins.
You don't leave it in but for a few seconds. I did this on purpose.
Chemistry can be fun and cool ! Thanks for the experiment Daniel.
The copper results were wild !! I wonder how many valuable copper cents, half pennies, large cents, etc have been destroyed using ezest. Sad to think of.
Interesting that the edge of the clad coins appeared not to receive the similar reaction that the surface of the other copper based coins.
They will reoxidize to their normal color over a few days.
These will not reoxidize back to normal, they will never be normal again.
@@CoinHELPu those certainly will not. Lol. I was referring to doing it the normal way.
Interesting experiment. Have a great day Sir Daniel!
Ouch.I am surprised there was a coin left.Kinda fun though.😊
Why no effect on clad edges?
Another great information video, Daniel, about cleaning coins. Now we all know what happens to copper coins in E-Zest. I was just wondering if you are going to make a video on how to remove the crystals off of the copper coins. Thanks again, Daniel, for helping educate everyone about coins and have a great day.
Interesting experiment. Thanks for sharing.
Great experiment...loved it!
Very cool thank you Daniel....hope u did not inhale too many fumes.
Interesting experiment.
I did that with a 1910 S wheat penny. Sad mistake to leave it in that overnight. It’s in the landfill now.
For copper you could use CITRANOX cleaner made of oranges
Great educational video as always
What causes pvc stickiness on coins?
Great product. It's helped me a lot turning great coins into beauties.
If you put a copper penny, pre-8,2 in with a 1943 steel penny in a solution of CLR, the copper will transfer to the steel penny effectively plating it.
Cool idea . . . 🥶 But I think I'll just use a chunk of copper pipe I have laying around the house. People will think I have one of the rarest of coins. Though, I'll be sure to mark it as a fake.
@@rvalens2 The magnet test resolves that concern.
@@StarATL Yes it does. But a surprising number of ill-informed buyers still manage to get scammed. It's happening every day on eBay - especially with Morgan silver dollars.
Thx so much for doing this
What happens when I have paint on one side of the coins
good one Daniel!!!
Wow crazy what it does to copper
Thanks mate great information
The '21 morgan looked burnt. Dipped coins are weird looking when they've been in too long... as short as a couple minutes sometimes. At one angle they're fine and then you turn it and see the haze "uhhh what's that!? 😵💫🤮" It's more noticable on proof coins because you expect a certain level of mirrorness that just isn't there.
I've found E-Zest works great on 100% pure nickel. Any time I get an older nickel coin that's high enough grade for my set but has oxidized, E-Zest brightens it way up. That's the only things I use it on is 100% nickel and decent purity silver.
Once you learn to recognize that "burned look" it's hard to forget. Though to me, it's more of a "haze," and it's visible on a lot of silver coins if you hold them at the right angle. I have dipped a few coins but I almost always dilute the solution by 50% with distilled water and watch the coin as the solution starts to work. Once the problem areas are dealt with, I'll leave the rest of the toning on the coin. I've had some "eye-popping" results - turning some of them into fantastic looking coins.
@@rvalens2 I hear a lot of people talking about either diluting the dip, or buying a weaker dip like the lighthouse brand one. I'm kind of scared of the idea because weaker acid means it's going to take longer to get it off, and I just want it in and out as soon as possible. I hold the coin with rubber tongs and watch the tarnish/oxidation dissolve off and then go right to the tap to rinse it. Rarely does it take longer than 8 seconds.
@@TheWinstonDouble I dilute it because I want the reaction to occur slowly, and I want to be able to stop it at just the right point. Because I rarely want to remove all the natural toning - just some of it. I've been able to create some really nicely toned coins from ones that were way too dark or just plain ugly by doing that. Since the toning is usually much heavier around the rim of the coin, it takes longer for the chemical to affect that area. While the center of the coin - where the toning is often thinner - lightens up, creating an eye-dazzling effect. It's too bad UA-cam doesn't allow us to post images. I'd show you some coins I did that too that are stunning when compared to what they originally looked like. Were I to sell them, I've no doubt, I could get twice what I paid for them. I've enjoyed this discussion. Best of luck to you in your future coin endeavors. - Richie
@@rvalens2 Wait so they're dark toned and then they come out blast white? Or with colours?
@@TheWinstonDouble Neither. Whatever toning the coin originally had is what you are stuck with. By removing some of the toning, it increases the "contrasting" effect between the light and dark areas - making the visual appeal of the coin more dramatic. Imagine a Morgan silver dollar where the center area of the coin is lighter in toning, but then radiates out into darker tones as it gets nearer the edge. That's what I am after. To me, it makes the coin really "pop." When done correctly, it's really hard for most people to detect - as most of the original toning is still there. To me, the lighter center area looks natural as those tend to get the most wear and handling during circulation.
Please Note: I only do this to dark or mottled looking coins. If a coin already looks decent, I leave it alone. By the way, I'm going to delete the word sunburst from my previous post because it seems to have misled you into thinking there would be some coloring to the coin afterwards or that it would become blast white. It doesn't.
I hope the above information helps explain why I do this to some coins. - Richie
After a day or two the clad metals tone to an off yellowish/orange color. Good video 👍
I've posted before about how I used ezest on copper but obviously not for 24 hours (lol), it's maybe 5 seconds or even less (sometimes just a dunk) just to get that initial layer of off the top of them.
I still don’t recommend it, not even for a second. It takes seconds to rinse off.
Hi, what type of camera do you use for your coins also I was reviewing your video about the gas bubble coin. I have a dime that the gas bubble looks different. I appreciate your response, thank you.
Webcam
@@CoinHELPu thank you😊
I seem to recall someone doing a similar 90-hour test. 🤔
What do you use for copper coins?
Nothing but acetone
Daniel how do I get tape off of a copper coin can I use nail polish removal?
Acetone
@@CoinHELPu thx for always answering me u r the best
Daniel, the Mad Scientist 😂
Lol
wonder what it does to steel cents.
All in the sacrifice for SCIENCE!!!!!!
I didn't know the dollar coins since 2000 are made of copper. I've had the stronger silver dip ruin coins when not washed off right away. I think it's called Speed Dip.
Those coins that are messed up you can take them to your bank and still deposit them if you don’t want them. The bank will send them to the Federal Reserve Bank and they’ll be destroyed.
You could make a video telling people what to do with their mutilated money coins/notes.
My guess was emp😂ty container like on the magic show I use a q tip sometimes a little Colgate after to remove dullness. there 25$ 21 Morgan's totally Black
thanks...great info. have you ever tried ultrasonic? or is that a no no?
Neat crystals
Yes, and i wonder what their chemical composition is.
The instructions say to only leave in for 15 seconds. Is it a surprise this happened to the nickels and pennies?
Daniel do you know around what year or decade cleaning a coin become verboten? I think of like Antiques Roadshow and imo it really raised the consciousness for leaving an original surface or patina intact on an item.
I don't know the answer to that either, but in the 70s, my dad and I cleaned a lot of coins, reducing their value by half. We didn't realize it then, but we ruined coins that were already in very nice condition.
I would say about 1980, the alarm was raised.😊
I believe e z est has a sulfuric acid based compound.If I can remember my chemistry, it actually speeds up the oxidation process with copper
So are you saying don't use E-Z-est?
On copper.
@@ulexite-tv thanks, but does that mean at all or not for 24 hrs? I think I saw someone only dip coins in for like 30 seconds, but I've only watched one other video and it was a few weeks ago.
@@mbecker163 At all. E-Z-Est is for silver, not for nickel or copper.
@@ulexite-tv I'm confused because it says on the container that it's for copper, gold and silver. Can you use this on regular clad coins then?
@@mbecker163 He did use it on clad coins, but ut must only be on for a few seconds. He explains it.
When using chemicals it is always important to use the product as directed from the chemical directions. But a very interesting experiment.
Ah, the voice of reason! But, creepy though the results were, it is always satisfying to see a pro conduct a managed disaster, right before your eyes.
This should be interesting…
You can lock focus on that camera so it’s not continuously hunting auto focus.
I don’t want a set focus. I want the freedom of getting closer if I want any too.
@@CoinHELPu you can’t set an “range of focus” that would allow you to move in and out? The hunting and pecking of the autofocus is nauseating to watch and indicative of a cheap camera.
@@ableaquariums5480 You cannot set a range of focus with a webcam and it's not indicative of a cheap camera either. Auto range focus is for DRLS camera images not video. If my videos are nauseating to watch then you have a personal issue, like some people have with strobe lights. So I recommend you stop watching the videos or take a Dramamine or anti nausea medicine.
@@CoinHELPu I had no idea you were running a webcam. With the size of your channel and the number of videos you have pumped out over the years one would of thought you would have invested in a quality DSLR to provide the best content possible. Something you might want to consider. A 4K DSLR will run you sub $1k and is tax deductible. Tks for sharing what you share.
Have you dipped pre-33 gold coins?
Yes, good results but usually not needed like silver.
Interesting
Probably not good to mix different metals, you’re making a bunch of anodes and cathodes.
@numismaticstacker the ez-est is mild acid if I remember correctly and will generate current between the dissimilar metals.
"not good"... Could you please elaborate? Is it gonna 💥?? 😂
I think I remember in an older video,that Daniel took chemistry!
@numismaticstacker current is generated from metals interacting with each other. That's what a battery is. That's like the most central idea of electronics. You don't get electricity from fire....I mean you do, but only if the energy is captured and used to move metals. That process generates electricity.
Wow. I'm shocked at the damage to the copper.
I seen a couple vids now an I think it makes them look worse! Not talking about the copper ones. But the silver ones I see that haze your calling it an its visible it just don't look right in my opinion. 🤷
Only 1 coin at a time for sure...but I wouldn't use that stuff at all
Cleaning coins is like turning back the odometer of a classic car ..should be illegal
Under normal circumstances, do you dip war nickels?
No
PCGS will send it back,
“ CLEANED “
Hello Daniel
This is basically a battery with no leads!
Newbie here, but I've understood that you shouldn't be cleaning coins. Did I miss something or not understanding how you should or shouldn't clean them and when and why to clean them?
Daniel has several videos about cleaning coins. Watch them, and you'll have a much better understanding.
@@lindanelson8400 I figured he probably did haven't looked yet. Thanks, I will go on that adventure. Cheers!
I’ve taken off the white milky looking spots and some corrosion spots on steel cents with ezest. The trick is to just pour a little in a bowl and dilute with distilled water 1:1 ratio. I only dip for about 2 seconds and then I gentle rub with a vinyl gloves in a circular motion very lightly. Then rinse in a separate bowl of water and pat dry. Sent off to the grading companies with no problems.
Steel cents are not the same as silver. You can’t remove milk spots off silver without harming the surface.
I had gotten my hands on several hundred steel cents in varying stages of terminal rust. Used CLR, just let set until the bubbles stop, which is the zinc oxide corrosion getting removed, then test with a qtip how well the rust comes off. Put back in for 10-15 at a time. When done and dry, you will need a light touch of 3 in 1 oil to coat and wipe off to seal the metal from oxidation resuming, ie rust. Many come out near BU looking.
i don't see no harm in it
Omgosh
The haze can be cleaned. I use Mother's Compound used on car rims with a dremel felt wheel
Agree, 💯% Mothers Aluminum Mag Wheel Polish is very good. I use it too! First, it's always good to start with 120 grit sandpaper. This removes all the stubborn trash on the surface, making less work for the polishing compound. 😊
@@lindanelson8400Good God.People this is a joke.Do not do that to any coin!!!!!!!
The metals mixed by themselves cause corrosion .
Never copper. Silver...10 seconds max.
It can be longer than 10 seconds, it doesn’t react with silver that fast.
I am cringing here....
Have not even seen the results yet but I bet cross plating!!! 👀
Nope I was wrong 😂
Sorry Daniel but I may have to report you to the authorities for cruelty to coins...
I'm afraid to look...
Thank you Daniel - I gotta get me one of those Saq`s , 777777777777777777777777777777777777777
Interesting