First time running Advanced and I am instantly humbled! Barber Motorsports Park 5/5/24 STT Session 1
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- I was surprisingly bumped to Advanced on 3/31/24 and sadly lost all my footage that day as my X3 blew off my bike never to be seen or heard from again (RIP). This is my first day and first session riding with these absolutely insane riders. This was also a special weekend in particular as there were a bunch of MotoAmerica riders practicing for the upcoming races in mid May. Suffice it to say, I was wayyy out of my league. Still fun af though!
2008 Honda CBR600RR
Dynojet PCV with custom fuel map and spark correction
Quickshifter w/ gear-dependent kill times
Toce Exhaust w/ cat delete
15/42 sprocket configuration (-1 front from stock). Speedo was corrected.
Filmed using Insta360's X3 & Go 3 cameras
Onboard telemetry was compiled using Telemetry Overlay and Race Render
Multicam editing was done using DaVinci Resolve
You might have been humbled . But you werent a rolling roadblock.
Best compliment I've received on any of my videos lolll
@@alixvandurandmeant to say that your content was superb.
@@ssaafur it's alright I mean. It's just some dude in way over his head 🤣🤣
@@alixvandurand You will never learn to swim, if you don't go to the deep end. Best thing about being passed by faster riders, is watching their line and their brake points.
Was gonna say, he did wicked good I thought!
This was better than any movie I’ve seen in the last 3 years. The sounds, multiple angles, HR monitor, lean angle, and just a beautiful track and scene.
Keep going brother. Your humility is admirable. Pursue the passion.
Blessings,
-JE
This is the best comment I've gotten on this channel, thank you so much! My original intention for these videos was to make it like a movie and focus on other riders or points of interest and whatnot. Quite a lot of work goes into the recording and editing of everything so I am truly grateful to hear that it is appreciated and enjoyed!
@@alixvandurand It was exactly as you intended. I think these will catch on and many people will like them.
Sometimes it doesnt happen overnight but you should see great traction within a year. I can tell a lot of time and effort went into it.
...What he said!
How did you get the HUD? Is that from GoPro or insta360? I have both and the gps remote from insta.
@@PsychoFreak33 I use Telemetry Overlay and Race Render to add all the data displays. TO is compatible with the GPX files from Insta360 and Gopro cameras.
I just turned 54 - me and a friend started racing a couple of years ago. We both didn't get any faster until we moved up to A-group. I learned more about corner speed and race craft on a Ninja 400 than I ever did on a 600/750/1000. My friend is now racing MotoAmerica at 53! Look for him in the 600 Supersport class at Laguna Seca. AFM #47x Jeremy Taubman.
Great vid - your bike sounds amazing!
I’d love to hear how you explored your venture into racing. I’m 57 and getting my first bike in this category. Rode motorcross when I was a teenager, then didn’t ride for decades., then inherited a Harley. And now… love the idea of getting on a track
@@ssaafur As I got older with injuries (4 back surgeries in 5 years!) I was getting physically and mentally exhausted on the bigger bikes - so I went down to a Ninja 400 and racing became fun again where I could go an entire session or race at 95 to 100%. Plus, racing is expensive and the 400 is way more cost effective. Can go a race weekend on 1 set of tires and then a track day or two! I did probably 10 - 12 track days then felt comfortable to race novice class and came in 2nd in the 450 Superbike, 450 Superstock and light weight twins championship with AFM in Northern California. Now for 2024 I have to race in the expert class which will help me improve my lap times. There's guys in the expert class that do a 1:59 at Thunderhill Raceway on a Ninja 400 😮. I'm at 2:08's for reference so I have a ways to go. If you decide to race - most clubs have a new racer program where someone can walk you thru the process on your first race weekend. Good luck!
I do track days at Thunderhill on my Ducatis. 1299 and V4S. I feel like I'm a lot slower because I don't want to yard sale my $35k bike. Rode my buddies CBR 600 for 2 heats and it felt like I was just too big for it. I'm 6-215 and anything under a liter seems too small. But I'm also really tired of tossing around those big bikes and the maintenance costs. I have a Huracan and it costs less to run than those two Ducatis.
@@88Heckenlivelyexcellent feedback! Thank you. And in my mind, I’d rather start with something I can work my way into. So starting at lower cc’s sounds logical as opposed to over powering my ability. I’m in NJ, so I need to see if something similar is offered locally. Thanks again!
@@jasonpatterson2143also great feedback. I have a friend out there that races and he’s recommending big 4 bikes. I’m 5’8, 215 so I have to see what fits my stature. I also have car and other hobbies so I can’t throw money at too many bikes. Sounds like a midrange ride is the way to go for cost and maneuverability without exhaustion. Thank you!
Every lap faster than last = progress 👍. Great video. Thanks.
Good video. Straight to the action, no bs. All of the telemetry and camera angles were a nice touch.
I thought there was a lot bs in the beginning being in the paddock, waiting in the pits to go out, slow ass outlap xD For real though, thank you!
I absolutely loved watching this. The data capture / logging displays you have were very interesting. Thank you so much for sharing this with us!
Thank you so much for this comment, I never thought this would get so many views and people would actually enjoy watching it I just did it for the shits and giggles xD
First time watcher and all I can say is amazing stuff.
The onscreen stats and different camera angles and that screaming engine was exhilarating to watch.
And seeing your heart rate almost hit 200bpm?
Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Cheers man! Thank you so much for this comment. It's amazing to hear that these videos are enjoyed and appreciated. I just did these for fun, never thought anyone would watch them xD And yeah my heart rate is a little scary, going to try to find ways to relax a bit more but I gotta say, it's a hell of a rush for me going out on the track!
Idk man, you look pretty damn fast to me. Not the fastest out there but definitely qualified to be there. 👍🏼
600cc?
@@Rogue_Wave5150 yes sir. 600RR
Great riding! I think you had a respectable showing for your first spin in the A group. I just bumped up to intermediate and although the pace is not what the A group is, the speed differential is there too. Watch and learn. Good job making to A group!
Oh, first time in Intermediate was nuts. Absolutely chaos in that group especially because of the large skill gaps from the slowest to fastest riders. Almost every first session there was a wreck like the first lap. Advanced seems oddly more controlled and smooth, even though they're flying.
And that weekend was littered with really fast pros practicing for the race the following weekend.
I dunno if I could do 190+ heart rate for prolonged periods of time anymore. Way to go dude.
It really doesn't feel like it's that high weirdly. After I come back in the paddock it just feels like I did a good work out (in body) but don't feel any discomfort or pain in my chest. I feel great haha
Either they’re in really good shape to maintain this HR or in really bad shape. I’m going to lean towards the former
It might be a faulty reading. The real figure might be lower by 30-40 bpm. 190 would be high for even a teenage athlete for any prolonged period of time.
@@sid.h polar is one of the best fitness brands for monitors. As far as what's "typical" for heart rates, I've found that everyone is different. Motogp did a few tests showing different riders' heart rates, some never went above the 130s, others surpassed 200. Most averaged around the 160s-170s.
Heart rate much !
Every day is a school day, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with being humbled, learn from it, and improve, that’s the name of the game.
You did good 👍
Thrilling video. The track position info was great for seeing upcoming turns and the racers coming up and passing was edited beautifully. Great stuff!!
Thank you so much! I put a lot of time into the editing of everything so it's great to hear that it is appreciated!
Great video and sound! Get to 3rd gear before you enter the chicane then get 2nd before you jump the rumble strip into the corkscrew. Get to 3rd gear before entering the second S turn and carry 3rd all the way to the last 2 switch backs. Depending on your speed you could carry 3rd all the way through or drop to 2nd before you make the sharp righ/left. You'll have better drive coming out in both scenarios and gain several seconds. I miss riding these tracks.
I agree, I was thinking about doing this too. I'm definitely not in the correct gear in a several sections. I'm sure it will bring me a little closer to those 1:30s!
What a beautifully edited video and very solid and consistent riding, keep up the work, subbed!!
Thank you, wow. That's a hell of a compliment. I'm blushing over here xD I'm happy you enjoyed it! I got more videos on the way, just did another track day today!
You’ll be humbling other riders soon enough. Ride smarter not harder and remember to breathe…looking good!!👍🏼👍🏼
I got a ways to go before then. For now I'm just aiming to not be the slowest guy out there 🤣 remembering to breath is more difficult than it seems!
That heart is pumping
That was pretty darn good, I thought you held your own out there. Nothing to be ashamed of. Great footage too.
Riding in advanced, consistency and being a predictable rider is just as important as pace. From watching the video coach made the right call in bumping you to A group.
Nice riding!
I‘m at the start of the vid, your heart rate tells you‘re crazy nervous 😂 must feel amazing afterwards!
There are no secrets with the heart monitor 🤣 It's such a rush. Absolutely addicting. Although, I do need to relax a bit. I'm a little too stressed out during the session.
IOM TT helmet and master cylinder cover. Perfect
You're the first person to notice both!
Once upon a time not too many years ago I held an AMA Pro race Supersport license and won a lot of WERA regional races during that time. Before I got to that level I was humbled in the same way. One weekend early in my riding career I was bumped to Advanced at a Roebling Road trackday and couldn't believe how much faster the white background numbers were than me. Passing me out the outside of the last turn at Roebling at well over 100mph making me feel like I was standing still. It was demoralizing, but I kept pushing and within a couple years was running with them. Started with a two piece suit and everything.
Reminisce about those days all the time - there really isn't a whole lot that can top the feeling of pushing a powerful motorcycle to the limits of traction on a circuit track.
This is so rad. And even more so you got to that level of competition. It is extremely demoralizing when I'm pushing myself to what feels like the absolute limit when I have these dudes 30 years my senior just dancing around me without breaking a sweat. But keeping at it track day after track day, unlocking new secrets and raising personal limits I find I'm now staying about the midfield in advanced without pushing much when just 6 months ago I was struggling to maintain even an intermediate pace.
11:03: That’s Dr. Carl Price getting around you there. “World’s fastest plastic surgeon,” lol. He’s also the chief medical officer for MotoAmerica. Awesome guy. Still can kicks some ass. That was lightweight / Twins Cup bike (Aprilla RS 660) he was on…
Your heart rate is through the roof holy cow. Is that safe?
It’s definitely in the maximum area depending on age. Doing lots of cardio exercise away from the track will bring it down. I started cycling 5 miles/day a few weeks before my season this year. I’m a month in now and its making a huge impact on how tired my legs get and my endurance is improving.
For long periods of time, I don't imagine so xD I'm 33 so my max should be around 187 according to norms. After the session, I don't feel any pain or discomfort in my chest so as far as that goes, I'd say I'm alright. The heartrate will decrease almost instantly if I'm not pushing as hard or as soon as I pit, etc. I was very stressed this day as it was my first day in advanced, plus very used tires, plus motoamerica riders smokin me left and right haha I'm not surprised I almost hit 200 but I've heard some motorbike racers will hit this routinely during a race, especially if they're younger.
@@sonny9608 I agree the subtract your age method is too generic. I was definitely jacked up that day. I was holding my breath too. I know I should "calm down" but someone who doesn't have necessarily a whole lot of hours on the track it's easier said than done. And remember it was my first time in this class. It's not exactly a walk in the park. I'll get smoother and more relaxed with time.
@@alixvandurand Unless its a quality heartrate chest strap the data is bogus. If its a fitbit or something on your wrist take it with a big grain of salt. If it is accurate definitely get your heart checked. Even with adrenaline/nerves your heartrate should build up into it not be 170+ in the pits. I don't even think my heartrate would shoot up like that if I started sprinting.
@Sam-ob8xc my fitness watch is dead nuts accurate with chest straps etc. This dude needs to see a cardiologist ASAP
Awesome video and great riding! Nice of you to stop by to say hi.
You know that guy with the bike laying in museum corner? That was me at Jennings in T10 years ago. Laying right across the race line. Red flag. Damn. Sorry guys. We we're having a blast up until my bike decided to just disappear out from under me mid corner! Must have been the tires....Lol....nope. I finally got past FZ1 guy in T8 and stupidly looked inside for him in T9. By the time I looked up I was running wide. My front tire just dropped off the pavement into Florida sand and it was an instant low side.
stay dedicated and an increase in pace will evolve naturally without you even noticing. beautiful track.
I remember thinking I could never reach the 140s and here I am. Now I'm thinking the same about the 130s hahaha
@@alixvandurand Lol cheers man best of luck, you have such a nice bike. Love to see its getting track time.
Man I really want to experience track day once, and being a resident in HSV,AL this track is like an hour half from me.
Sir, if those are are Lee Parks Deerskin gloves, please consider getting something with sliders in the palms. I was fortunate enough that my only crash in a pair of Lee Parks Sumo R gloves came at Barber at Charlottes' web while I was moving at a slow rate of speed and it was a lowside. One of glove burst open but did keep me from getting skinned up.
The bigger problem though is that that they "grip" the pavement rather than sliding. That sent me tumbling. In a more harsh crash, the lack of sliders would likely have caused my wrist to be torqued by the grip between the glove and the pavement, most likely leading to wrist damage.
I learned my lesson and moved on to Alpinestars.
I only spotted your glove in the very beginning of the video, so maybe I didn't identify the glove correctly.
Best of success in your track adventures!
@@kirkpierce5546 damn that's a wild story! Glad you're okay man. Charlotte's web is very tricky but at least it's pretty slow. They were Sedici gloves I was wearing in the video, but I have a new pair of Alpinestars now 😊
Heart rate is wild....160sh just getting ready...damn bro. I race off road and havent seen 190 bpm...yikes
I think we may have chopped it up before in Intermediate group at Barber. Running very similar pace, and remember playing w a Repsol a year or two ago.
I didn't get bumped to Intermediate until August of last year I think. My first day at Barber ever was almost exactly a year ago. Might not have been me but if you're ever at Barber again let me know! Would be down to say hello and check out your setup and all. I'll be there June 2nd.
It's not a race, I never understood why people are comparing themselves with other riders on a random trackday. I always have fun and learn something new.
If you or the other people there are that good they are not riding there ;).
Yeah definitely no winners at track days, well, maybe riders that didn't wreck are winners haha But there were at least 8-10 MotoAmerica riders there that day practicing for the races that happened this last weekend so they were goin balls to the wall.
I found i learnt faster and gained confidence by finding another rider each session who was just a bit quicker than me, and sticking behind them, then once you are as quick as them, find the next rider a bit quicker than you etc.
Dont try following someone who is clearly way faster than you, or you'll crash trying to match their braking points.
idk how you don't have way more subs. This content is quality
Oh wow thank you so much!! I honestly wasn't thinking anyone would ever watch these. I just did it for the hell of it, so I can go back and learn what I'm doing wrong for next round, also for other riders around me to see themselves if they were riding in same session. I'm flabbergasted how this ended up getting 40k+ views x.x Course, now I feel judged af cause I was way out of my league hahaha
There is a Russian dude on youtube named Misha Charoudin that drives all kinds of cars on a racetrack. His footage is set up in a way that i think might interest you. He has the front view camera at about 85% of the screen and the rest is the rear view camera. Just thought you might want to check that out. Great riding btw and awesome work on your videos. Lots of info which is nice.
Mate that telemetry is next level, awesome stuff! 🙌
Thank you! I'm elated people actually like watching these videos. I'm just a noob riding with a bunch of pros to be honest haha
Got that shaded VIP spot 👏
Out there with motoamerica riders and holding ur own, lookd pretty damn good to me
Are you holding your breath? You revving higher than the Honda :). Nice footage, excellent data set!
Most definitely. Focused on breathing and relaxing my next track day and managed to bring down my max and average by about 25% by the end of the day.
This is so sick. Love the on screen hud.
I was there. I couldn't figure out how dude was down at the bump. Someone told me his front brake piston was stuck.
One of the marshalls working turn 7 said his chain broke and made his bike swing around in a low side. I suppose that or a stuck front brake would mess you up either way!
Having the heart rate on screen is pretty sick
Thank you! I thought it would be cool, I always liked watching others' track day vids and was curious what hr they were running. They say riding or racing a motorcycle isn't an athletic sport but I really beg to differ. It's the most physically intense thing I've ever done, and I used to play ice hockey haha
@@alixvandurand it’s an awesome touch man, that alone made me subscribe keep the videos coming 🤝
Reminds me of my first day in Advanced. Got ate up by just about everyone in every turn by every size bike there is. Just destroyed.... but thats what you need to progress... a rabbit to chase and a serving of humble pie.
hahaha hell yeah, it was an amazing experience though and I got to talk with a lot of the junior cup kids that were there practicing that day. I definitely prefer being the slow guy in Advanced over the fast guy in Intermediate cause it forces you to look at what you're doing to improve. You ride at Barber too, or were you there that day?
great video ! i need to get my "rear" in a track day too ... for what is worth looks like you are doing a great job there .. stay safe
Have you been to a track before? And thanks!
@@alixvandurand have been riding for decades but never on track...
You need to try use all of the road and put the bike upright faster while using that road to open up up your corner exits, you look very slow on corner exits, i think thats where you will find several seconds, use that road bro its there for a reason, also when you show the back camera you clearly see you contact patches at the apex are like a meter of the curb, try gettin closer to the inside before opening up the throtle, be safe and stay in advanced group, others will slow you down, advanced riders like a lil slower rider in theyre group, makes us help find passage points much better 😀
Thank you for this, all great points. Corner exits are definitely not my strong suit. I go back to Barber in a week, first and foremost will focus on tightening up my lines. I will stay in advance for now, I like that it forces me to figure out what I'm doing wrong and improve. Although it's a bit jarring to be passed that much, you really got to trust the other riders that they know what they're doing. But I would sooner trust you guys than the intermediates. Those cats are crazy and not in the good ways haha
You did great yo keep up the grind👍
I would be happy with that first exposure. It's very interesting to compare this 600 and you ride to being in a "cage". In a way I would have thought your terminal V would have been higher on all of BMP short "straights". It did look like folks were "pinching" out of the kink T11 on the back straight. In the car I intend to be on the concrete about halfway down it's curbing. I would not be in a hurry to get over to the right into T12. I cheat it actually I stay more track center in the car as I approach that. Not that any of this may help a rider. My heavier car and 4 traction patches I can get to 1:40, when the slicks are optimal. I think I need a shorter diff, I am tallish for the motor. Almost to 100mph thru T10/11. Anyway looks like fun! Keep at it the times will drop!
My buddy ( he's in the Chasing the Ducati V4 vid) runs car track days too and he says it's a wildly different experience. Everything from braking points to lines you take through corners have to be entirely relearned. I see you got some vids up, I'll check them out!
@@alixvandurandBraking points definitely, lines maybe at the utmost. Your lines looked good for the most part, and not much different than in car. But those things I poked at may help, may not :). Jackie Ding a well known time attack guy was there recently, he used alot of concrete, that suprised me, and didn't but no racer could do that as it would be too risky, in a group of cars. hahahahaha. I have a 600 from 2000 but never bought the leather. Maybe some day!
Heart rate through the roof dude! Dope video. Keep 'em coming.
Thanks man! Someone said it got linked to the RPM hahaha I was stressin like a mofo out there. But the excitement and rush is unreal so even if I was more relaxed I'd still be pushing in the 170s.
@@alixvandurand I just moved up to intermediate and I was nervous the first time out, but it all worked out.
@@scottoutdooradventures2779 Congrats man! I remember my first day in Intermediate was very similar feeling as this. The skill gap is insane in that group so it was pure chaos. Advanced, everyone just leaves you in the dust so at least it's consistent xD Do you have any footage of your first time out?
@@alixvandurand not my first time in B Group. I didn't have a camera adapter for the triple clamp (I usually ride nakes). I have another track day in two week and I'll make sure to run the camera and the RaceBox.
@@scottoutdooradventures2779 oh hellll yeah. I'll sub and check that out when you upload it.
Very cool. I think you held your own! Ride safe…
You went so fast your telemetry couldn't keep up
Oh please, I could have been outrun by a pocket bike 😂😭
That was so smooth my guy 👍
I need to get back out there. I use to could do a 1:36 back in my hay day.
That is wicked fast. Would love to have seen some footage of that! If you come back out let me know! I'll be there June 2nd.
You did fine. I remember a few times for a WERA race some old WSBK and motoamerica super bike guys came out and just shit all over us haha
That was humbling because I was used to being front pack of expert field
Hahahaha best way to put it. Was definitely shat on. Not the best outing for my first time, not to mention I had my throttle get stuck open in session 3 which caused me to call it an early day. I got it all fixed plus new tires so I'll hopefully get some better lap times next time around!
Great job bro! You’ve got to get some legit tires and warmers
Funny you should mention that. I was on a pair of very spent S22's that day (had about 7 track days on them without warmers) and in the second session which I'll upload here in the next day or two I nearly got thrown off in a high side coming out of 17 trying to keep up with one of those motoamerica kids xD it was bad dude.
What app do you use or did you code this yourself?
God no, but I did custom make the template and gauges through layering (and a small portion coding for the gear indicator). The apps I used were Telemetry Overlay and Race Render. I'm putting together a video showing how I do it all soon.
Nice video! Nice riding, Stay out of those yard sales LOL
Thanx for the great video. Like your helmet, got the same😃
Best helmet they ever made. I get compliments on it all the time, part of me doesn't want to wear it to the track for fear of damaging it but fuck it, it's meant to be worn right?
Wait though 🤔...Rev it jacket, Dainese pants...did they actually zip together? The jacket moved a lot 😬
Haha yes, most jackets come with a spare attachment zipper that you can sew onto another pair of pants. It moves around but don't worry it has a zipper going almost all the way around. Funny enough, I think you're the first person to realize my upper and lower dont match 🤣
I'm the one who hand sewed the new zipper in to attach the jacket to the pants during my vacation in Childersburg last June. Took me two days since the first try didn't work and had to be redone. I witnessed the annual motorcycle race day at Barber with Alix and his dad. Wow!
What a nice track!
What camera are you using?!?!
that heart rate tho lol bro breath in breath out have fun. hahah :) happy riding
My next track day that was a major focus for me and I managed to get my max and average hr down by about 25% at the end of the day! And the main difference was I was telling myself to breath haha
Nice riding man!
What did you use to pull in tach, lean angle, and heart rate data(wahoo) to your overlay? Must be merging and syncing three maybe 4 data tracks? What software?
Thank you! The bike telemetry such as tach, gear, throttle and speedo is with Dynojet's POD-300 that works with the PCV. Lean angle, gyro/accel, lap times, GPS/track map and true speed is captured with a Racebox Mini S. I also wear a heart monitor that works with Wahoo app on my phone. I have 3 different CSVs from those devices that I sync up and overlay using Telemetry Overlay and RaceRender. It's a long story but half the stuff was compatible with one and vice versa with other so I was forced to use both when first starting out. I've since worked with dev of Telemetry Overlay who added Dynojet support so technically I could put it all using that but I really like the custom gauge I made with RR (and the track map/position looks cooler too) so I just quickly import into my template, sync up data and export. The most time consuming part of my videos is reframing my 360 camera and doing the multi edit of my two cameras in Davinci Resolve.
@@alixvandurand Nice - I know this isn't an easy process, so was curious how you were doing it. Definitely makes for an excellent viewing video! Pretty hard to appreciate how difficult this is to do until you try it yourself, so I appreciate your efforts, videos, and the sharing of the knowledge. Cool stuff. Ride safe!
@@bigairdude5238 Thanks big air dude, I appreciate your very kind words. It really is a steep learning curve trying to figure everything out for the first time. Even now being used to the process and using templates I've made, it still takes some time to make these videos. I was thinking of doing a vid or two showing the whole process and setup. How I record the videos and telemetry then doing all the work in post. Not an easy undertaking, I'm sure it will take me several hours to do.
better cardio than any stair master!
This stuff looks great, man! I have SO many questions about your HUD set up. I see what you have in the video description. I looked up the GoPro Telemetry Overlay and I see where it's using the camera's accelerometers. And I looked up RaceRender and I see how that's getting your GPS position on track (I think).
Where is your heart rate coming from? It looks like RaceRender runs on your phone. And, your phone can track your heart rate. Are you running something like a smart watch, or are you running a chest censor?
Going to dive through your videos. Hoping to see something on how you set up your HUD in the video feed! It's really impressive, man!
Just a suggestion, if you have multiple camera angles, it may be useful to do a tiny picture in picture of the opposite camera. So, if you're showing the front ... have something somewhere that shows the rear view. You've already got the footage. A lot of car channels do separate footage for front, rear, feet, and dash. Your HUD footage is so detailed I don't think you need to worry about the dash. But, since you do already have front and rear facing cameras ... in my opinion, it would be nice to always be able to see both regardless of which is the main focus.
Keep it up, man!
What type of bike is this why does it rev so high but it’s accelerating seems slower
It's a 599cc inline four, that's why 🤣 they're not known for having a whole heck of a lot of power but they scream like an old F1 car. It's a Honda CBR600RR to be exact.
Which GPS with gyroscope are u using?
Racebox Mini S.
Funny, I was there that exact same weekend doing my first track day ever (novice group obviously). Wish I had filmed it so I could send to you. You’d feel much better about yourself 😂
@@chrismoffett803 haha oh believe me, I was there first time as a novice just a year ago. I don't think I've really improved all that much between you and me shhh 🤣🤣
which camera are you specifically using for inside the helmet?
Insta360's Go 3. There's a guy with a video here on UA-cam who mounted it using a magnet he installed into his cheek pad but that didn't work for my helmet which is an Arai. So I put it on the magnetic stem mount and wedged it between my cheek pads, it fits almost perfectly where it doesn't move around at all.
@@alixvandurand awesome! Thank you! I live about 2 hours north of Barber and haven’t been back in 3 years now. I was normally going about 4 times a year down there with STT. This video was fun to watch and really makes me miss doing track more regularly.
Nearly 200 bpm is insane 😂
I just did another track day today and passed 200 trying to get a new personal best. I guess I did in a way😵💫
@@alixvandurand That is absolutely insane lmao
What’s BPM?
@@daytonasayswhat9333 heartrate, beats per minute
@@Cam-i oh, that’s right. I feel like we debunked this in some other video. It’s obviously not reading correctly.
doing pretty good. intermediate this past saturday was a shit show in the rain. i didnt go down any but plenty people did all over the track especially the last turn for some reason. i didnt push hard due to weather but for my first time at barber when i go back and its dry i will eat this track up. might get bumped to advanced seeing how youre fairing out. we have two different riding styles as im on a naked bike (1290 super duke) but i was 3 seconds off from running advanced times at ncm in bowling green ky on dot tires. i have slicks now and cant wait to see the improvement. also i need that helmet camera link?
I heard. So sad hearing how many people went down. I was there Sunday, forecast was rain and it turned out to be a great day. You just never know with Alabama weather. You got any footage of your day? If you get bumped would be cool to ride with you! I'm still on DOTs as well, figure if I can keep up with those then I should be def quicker on full slicks. And the camera is the Insta360 Go 3.
@@alixvandurand no footage as i forgot all my cam equipment at the hotel in huntsville.
@@jaredallen8054 oh man that's really sucky. Next time get it recorded! Will you be at Nashville the 15th?
@@alixvandurand no. But I plan on being at ncm motorsports park the 22nd
@@alixvandurand driving to tail of the dragon tomorrow morning.
Epic all round dude🤘
You flatter me xD my ass was handed to me that day haha but thank you. Hoping next time will be a bit better of a showing on my part!
What software are you using for speed / rpm, etc?
Race Render. It's also the track map/position. All the other data was done with Telemetry Overlay.
Nice riding, as long as you have fun. thats the ultimate goal. Im on a CBR 1000 2006 and the guys on the new bikes are much quicker, but its still fun.
@@jean-paulmarques2400 yeah but our old CBRs were built like tanks. Guys with the newer bikes always seem to be fixing something 😜 definitely had a blast riding with those guys that day.
You where pretty good on all front except for 2
- Braking before corner? Are you even using the front brake at all?
- throttle application on corner exit.
Your corner speed is pretty good, very much up there, but you are missing alot of speed upon corner exits, where you just dont apply the throttle.
The corners itself and body position is really good, but alot of time to gain on those 2 points! Loved all the telemetry! Would love to see more and improvements
I love Barber Motorsports Park!
Just an observation.... Hug that tank, and tuck more.
Good riding! I’m in cullman, do they offer track lessons? I’ve never been on track.
I've been racing GP bikes for over 20 years. The best advice I can give you is, get a 1 piece suit and in the rain...Do all your braking in a straight line.
This is sick and I love all the info but I cant help but think your heart rate is off a a bit?
Looks to me like you have several really good teachers out there who you can go to school on right when they pass you.
Otherwise it almost seems like you were a little later getting to WOT than some of the other guys - seems like they got on the throttle a little right at apex vs you may have been a bike length or two later than them.
For your first run in advanced I’d say solid success man!
Then when ever someone else asks just say you were running a 600 with the 1,000’s for a good challenge lol
its all about experience first you get humbled then you win the next race hehehe 😛
Cool track and good riding dude! Enjoyed the vid.
Apologies if you addressed this elsewhere and I missed it but... how are you getting that shot from inside your helmet? I'd love to film my races like that
No worries! I'm using Insta360's Go 3 camera with the swivel stem mount which fits perfectly between the cheek pads of my Arai. Another guy on UA-cam gave me the idea who had a scorpion which the pads are quite different and he fit a small but strong magnet in the cheek pad to mount it. But the way the pads are in Arai the magnet way doesn't work. I'll make a video showing how I do it but it's actually really simple. I'd love to see your races!
@@alixvandurand Thanks for responding! I race a vintage bike (mid-70's yamaha 2 stroke road bike) with AHRMA. Got a couple of races uploaded to my channel. I'm going to give this a shot and see what tech says about it - I have always been bummed that we can't do cameras mounted to the outside of our helmets. The movement of your head makes these videos so much more engaging and dynamic.
Also - nice riding! Go race that bike with WERA!
Fix your lines and quit looking at ur gauge cluster bc every moment you look away from where you're going you have to gain focus again.. just feel the road out eyes forward
@@S1k18 I had a baaaad habit of looking at my cluster for rpm. wind noise and earplugs sometimes it's hard to tell where exactly the bike is at when it's screaming and I really don't want to redline it. I've been getting much better about this lately. It's a matter of knowing what gear to be in and where so it's second nature. At one point I taped something over it for a few sessions 🤣
Wow, great video, Sean. What was that laying in the middle of the road at 11 minutes, 28 seconds? How old are the other men or boys on the track with you? Scary watching my boy here on this video today, Mother's day. Sean was filming and riding this on Cinco de Mayo, Mother's Day in Spain. I'll send this link to your aunt in Madrid via whatsapp, Sean. She will be really scared! Sorry you lost your X3. Glad you finished your day safely, before the rain!
That's a crashed bike that brought out a red flag and ended the session.
Thank you and Happy Mother's day mom!
Flying bro!)
Nah man. I was falling with style! ;D Those other cats were the ones flying!
That helmet camera is insane, what is it?
@@arnoldb0620 it's an Insta360 Go 3 camera. Used the stem mount that's included and basically shove it between the cheek pads lol
Holy shit, 186 BPM? Heat, track riding, heavy bike? Why? Are you okay? That’s almost max heart rate..😅😮
All the above haha It was a very hot day, I was likely dehydrated, holding my breath in several sections each lap, stressed, nervous, excited.. Bike isn't very heavy but it is a workout moving the thing back and forth 17 times a lap lol But to answer your question, I think I'm okay? xD
@@alixvandurand damn. I feel like if I was riding and I was at that level I would not be okay. Then again I never have used a heart monitor and have gotten the adrenaline plenty high before ❤️ ♥️ ♥️
@@wackolovesyou8203 It's definitely the nervousness and excitement. I mean it's physically exhausting to track a bike but for sure the adrenaline that's kicking in is what's making my HR skyrocket. My next time at Barber is on sunday and one of the things I'm gonna be working on is relaxing a bit and bringing the HR down. I think one major factor is I'm holding my breath in certain sections
Where did you get that gear indicator you mounted on your cbr?
Follow their lines, you are trying to run the insides. That might work for blocking, not for the speed as you can see when they run away. They are running very far outside to enter the corners and using the whole track. It takes time. What is your age? From your max HR I am guessing in your 20's?
I noticed that too, definitely need to rework how I run the whole track. I was also very sloppy because of lack of trust in the rubber. I wrecked in turn 7 last June so I'm still getting over that mental block and taking my time pushing my personal limitations. I'm recently turned 33, max HR is supposed to be 187 according to norms but I guess I'm not normal. I feel great after a session though, no discomfort, just like a did a heavy workout.
Great vid but genuinely lost trying to grasp the front-facing POV. Like am I looking at your eyebrow and nose? Lmao
Yes haha you're seeing the edge of my eye and brow/nose. The camera is mounted inside the helmet just next to my cheek but it has a wide FOV setting.
Im right here as well. Consistently top of b+ but when i do get on track with A group riders....
Were you there that day? It's true there's quite a large gap going from Int to Adv. If I went back to Intermediate I'd easily be one of the faster guys but I prefer riding Adv, more intense, no rules on passing, forces you to improve, etc.
@@alixvandurand not barber. I'm located out west but my situation is similar
@@gerbel01 where at? I do track days out in California as well with my buddy. We both ride B together.
@@alixvandurand my home track is Utah Motorsports Campus currently but I plan on trying to get around eventually to some surrounding states.
@@gerbel01take some footage! I'd like to see the track out there. I love Utah. Might move there someday.
Hey man how do you have the go3 mounted inside the helmet?
I have an Arai Corsair X and there's a tiny crevasse between the pads at the sides of the visor and cheek area. I basically just have the small Go 3 (unmounted from the Pod) attached with the little magnetic stem mount and fit the stem into that crevasse. When I put the helmet on, it holds surprisingly well and I feel confident that during a wreck it won't come out.
@@alixvandurandI would actually love a video about this specifically
congrats... takes a pretty decent rider to make the "adv" group.... Took me a year of trackdays to get that silly sticker...
Good run beautiful track 👍
The great thing about motorsports is that you will always be humbled so it's a ego checker... That even applies to vr46 or mm93
I love this about doing track days. I wrecked in turn 7 last year and I'm still ego checked from that.
You nervous af for a heart rate to be at 160 before the event even starts 😂
Like a fat kid in a lion's den 😵
Is that heart rate monitor working well? A healthy person would not have almost 200 bpm doing a low intensity activity. If you are under 20 years old and have trained a lot of cardio, for example running marathons it maybe normal, If not, I would really go to a heart doctor.
What do you mean instantly humbled on your first advanced group session? Were you expecting to go out and dominate?
I wAnT tO Be MaRc MArquEz ;) I was expecting exactly what happened in this video. Was hoping it wasn't gonna be as bad as it was xD
Every time you get out of a corner and you go through the gears, anybody that’s behind you becomes very small very quick. What kind of bike are you riding a Honda but what type?
2008 CBR600RR, I baby it haha it has a cat delete full system, custom tune and front sprocket is -1 so it pulls like a 750. Barber is a slower track so I technically could go +2 on the rear but then it would be screaming too much on the freeways.
Barber is definitely not a slower track, if you wanna run decent times then switch to 15/44,45 @alixvandurand
@@Drewrides89 stock gearing on 600RR is 16/42..so telling me to gear down to a 15/45 is a huge difference in acceleration (less top speed) and definitely shows barber is indeed a slower track. Pretty much every other track I've been to I've had to hit 6th with my current gearing. Barber, typically I don't go above 5th.
@alixvandurand I've been riding that track for awhile man, most racers run 15/43 15/44 15/45 at barber but don't listen to me, just gave a suggestion, once you ride track long enough you will eventually understand gearing
@@Drewrides89 What bikes are they riding cause 15/43-45 on a CBR600RR is definitely gearing for more acceleration/less top end. As I mentioned in my original comment, I'm running -1 on front (15T). I could go even further adding 1 or 2 on the rear but I'm really not trying to top out my bike at 135mph cause I still ride this on the street and I'd be hitting stupid revs just cruising down the highway. Besides, there's still a ton of other things I can improve on to get lap times down before needing to mess with my gearing further.
In the second corner, you are entering too slow, you decide to pick up gas earlie going more into lean angle while the circuit drops. your front looses alot of pressure because your earlie gas pick up. While forcing more speed and leanangle. Take care on that. Rest of this looks so far fine at your level. If your BPM is correct you have to slow down longer in the turns driving. Thats not like 80% driving - thats 110% lol 196 BPM. Keep Up. Good Grip
You're talking turns 2 and 3 yes? You're saying to enter faster then maintain a little longer so I don't increase lean angle on the downhill coming out towards 4?
@@alixvandurand yea turn 2 and 3, if so get in faster, you can brake in later and you will be more safe while beeing faster. Because you are to slow you start acceleration earlie - front gets loose - and than you tighten the lane with a loose front beeing on the gas. Of course for you it feels easier and safer but if you think about forcing leanangle while going down with a more loose front, that makes no sense.
Good riding