I have lot of respect for anyone admitting his fail and to put that on UA-cam. We ALL fail at one time or another and talking about it, honestly like you did, helps the others. Your video is a perfect example of one of the mother rules of wilderness: "Know when to call it quit. The mountain will still be there tomorrow". Respect!
I hike in the High Desert of Wyoming. I ALWAYS take more water then I think I might need. Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. I learned that once the hard way, when hiking in Yellowstone National Park, years ago.
Thanks for Sharing. Bailing out on a Bushcraft trip isn't bad; priorities and safety over fun, always. Some may not show their failures but should; it is part of learning. Stay Safe.
Hello there. Bailing out on a Bushcraft trip is not bad; priorities, safety, over fun. Some may not tell if their Bushcraft failures but they should; you learn from them. Thanks for Sharing and Stay Safe.
Well that is a bummer! Sorry to hear the hike with your daughter did not work out! Always another day for sure! Gregory are great packs and that’s a nice kit! Look forward to the next one. Trip failures are part of the process. We have all been there. At least you spent time with your daughter and that’s what matters most! Thanks for sharing brother!
It's definitely been a good pack so far. Hope it lasts a while still. Was kinda a bummer, but you're right. At least we spent some time. I think I'm gonna schedule another in the fall. Didn't know summer was here already 😄. Summer is for sure my least favorite weather to camp in. Thanks for the encouragement, and thanks for watching! God bless, brother!
@@awayinthewilderness4319 yeah I love the fall Sept-Nov is my favorite and early spring in the desert is awesome too! Keep up the good work! Love the Badger Claw Gear. Got a bunch of John’s stuff. God Bless!!
@@Riverbugger I'd love to do some desert camping. Never been. My wife has some family in the Phoenix area. Maybe we can do that sometime. Badger Claw gear is some of the best gear I own. Working on getting the whole line of products 😄
Don’t feel bad. Better safe than sorry. Don’t want your daughter to hate camping/backpacking. I’ve had to bail several times. Most memorable was back in late ‘70’s (yes I’m old!). Friend of mine and I went to Adirondacks in early April to do a couple day backpacking trip during a spring break from college. We knew there would still be plenty of snow on the trails and were prepared with snowshoes, etc. Weather forecast was pretty good with chance of some snow flurries but supposed to be mostly nice. This was back before the internet, readily accessible weather radar, cell phones and things like that. About 20 mins before arriving at the trailhead it started snowing pretty hard. We arrived at the parking area and there was four inches of fresh snow and it was coming down hard. We started out anyway towards a lean to about two miles away but turned back after a half mile or so because we were having serious problems seeing the trail and trail markers. There was still a few feet of old snow on the trails and several inches of fresh snow but mostly just no visibility. Decided to stay in car overnight with our sleeping bags since it was still snowing. In morning there was over a foot of fresh snow. Fortunately, I had a snow shovel in the car (always did in winter back then) and we dug a path to the road. Road was somewhat plowed and we drove back to my parent’s cabin about 20 miles away. Spent rest of spring break drinking lots of beer at parent’s cabin and doing several day hikes instead.
@@mspellyt1 Glad you're still here to tell the story. Thanks a lot for the encouragement. My daughter and I are planning the trip again for this fall. 👍
I try not to camp in the summer because I’m just done with it……. Haha but 2 years ago I took a trip and bushwhacked my way to a camp in some thick woods that are owned by a friend of mine from church. By around sundown I was just being eaten by mosquitoes!! I did not have a bug net! And literally tried everything. Even burned some green pine branches so create some smoke to get rid of them. Nothing worked! It was early and I decided to call it. Around 10 o clock. Pitch black I hiked out and slept in my truck. And to make it worse every time I put my headlamp on I would get attacked!!! Hahah literally left all my stuff and had to get it in the morning. SUCKED! That was my worse experience. I also bailed once with a buddy of mine because we heard what sounded like a women screaming 😱 later we were told it was probably a rabbit. But 🤷♂️ it was freaky. Haha 😅 yeah man it happens…..
I was not expecting the bugs to be that bad right now. I thought about smoking them out with a fire, but only for a second. As soon as we were about to set up camp we were being absolutely eaten alive. By this point it was dark and we were using our headlamps. Another thing was I did not expect the grass to be a foot tall already. I was just there not long ago. Summer definitely started early in my neck of the woods. It's hands down the worst time to camp. I'm about there with you as far as camping in it any more. People, and definitely creepy screams at night would be freaky 😄. Hopefully none of that is in my future. Happy camping! God bless, bro!
great video. While I cant say much for the heat issue, other than maybe wear a bigger hat to keep the sun off better. Id recommend bringing a bug suit and a second water bottle. You're strong, so what's a little more weight?
👍 The Katadyn that I have actually carries 1L. So technically I did have 2 containers, but that one was not filled before I left. Bigger hat would help. Thanks for watching!
I've had many trips postponed for water reasons, usually too much falling to hard! I don't call them failures, simply experience. I'm used to camping in the rain tho, haven't had a too little water experience.
I've had to bail at the trailhead or into a hike tons of times. Floods, fires, stomach bugs....they can all end a hike. If I've made the drive out there, I'll usually try to at least camp out near my vehicle for a night. I usually keep water and other drinks in a cooler for after the hike, so that might have worked for you. That pack looked immaculate. All of the ones I've used have some sort of snag or stain on them.
That's a great idea to keep a cooler in the car. I do generally have a couple bottles of water, but a cooler would be great! I try to take very good care of my gear. I'm kinda OCD, but I clean everything after each trip as well. When I'm hiking I try very hard to keep from snags and such. Thanks for watching! I'm definitely learning as I go.
desert hiking... 1 gallon per day per person .... if every one carries two 2ltr of water and keep them topped off .... PHILMONT bsr august back in early 80s one quart of water for a full day hike for 8 scouts and 1 guide... when we got to base camp 2 went to infirmery for dehydration 4 under observation for 3 hours the 3 west desert rats gatorade and shade for 30 min p38 is small p52 is large can opener you cannot take thru TSA
Wow! That's a lot scarier situation than we had. I haven't been to the desert, but I would love to. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it! 👍
Nothing more fustrating than needing water but not being to access a stream or river which you can hear and perhaps see, but can't get a way into it. Exasperating !
Don't go chasin' waterfalls Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all But I think you're moving too fast
You were right to call it. Water is Critical and obviously what you encountered at the first 2 sources did not look promising for continuing. Thanks for sharing- a good lesson to keep in mind.
Very nice setup. The only things I would add is a mesh bug net. I'm from the generation that didn't have cheap water filters. So we always carried lots of water. Because of that I always camped in the winter. Only recently am I getting into summer camping. I carry a alcohol stove and a twig stove. I don't like the can stoves because you never know how much fuel you have. Plus they are so loud. As for a suggestion on bugs. I'm from Maryland and camped around the eastern shore where mosquitoes are so big they could carry off. Well maybe a exaggeration but not by much. I coat my tarp,bag, outdoor clothes with Sawyer permethrin, then I carry sawyer picaridin. It is the best I've found works great even in Florida swamps. I can't use Deet it burns my skin. Another thing I learned years ago. Is never sleep in your clothes you wore all day. I believe camping and hiking should be enjoyable. If your not having fun nothing wrong with packing up. In my years we've had a few late night drives home. For the life of me I don't remember why or what. Some said we could go home and next thing we're in a vehicle. Lol. Even after all these years just gotta keep trying things until you find what you like. Nowadays is the greatest time to be a bushcraft outdoors person. In the 80s-90 we didn't have anything like the stuff now. One last question I didn't see a folding saw. They are incredibly useful. Depending on the type of camping your doing.
Love this comment! I've heard of Permitherin, but not Picaridin. The bug situation is one thing I have not figured out. This year I plan on finding what works for me. I'll keep these things in mind. I also love alcohol and twig stoves, but generally carry the cannisters on hiking trips just for the speed of boil really. This was a lesson learned and plan to get back out there when the weather cools off again. I might stick to mostly camp sites this summer until I find out what will make camping in the Backcountry more enjoyable in the hot weather with the bugs. Thanks a ton for the advice and for watching! 👍
Forgot to mention that I do carry folding saws a lot, but was just trying to trim some weight on this trip and figured we would have plenty of downed twigs for a fire. 👍
When we try we never truly fail, we only learn.
For sure, bro! Thanks for the encouragement. ✌️👍
I have lot of respect for anyone admitting his fail and to put that on UA-cam. We ALL fail at one time or another and talking about it, honestly like you did, helps the others. Your video is a perfect example of one of the mother rules of wilderness: "Know when to call it quit. The mountain will still be there tomorrow".
Respect!
Thanks so much! I really like that quote. I'll be using that. Thanks a lot for watching!
Well, there's next time! ❤ I love that set up though.
It's a great kit! Thanks for everything! ❤️💗💕
Lovely set up man, we only keep learning not falling! Lovely upload!
Thank you! Definitely learned a lesson on this one. Thanks for watching!
I hike in the High Desert of Wyoming. I ALWAYS take more water then I think I might need. Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it. I learned that once the hard way, when hiking in Yellowstone National Park, years ago.
Great advice! I've been there once before this. Genuinely was not expecting the trail to be that dry already. Thanks for watching! 👍
Thanks for Sharing. Bailing out on a Bushcraft trip isn't bad; priorities and safety over fun, always. Some may not show their failures but should; it is part of learning. Stay Safe.
Well said!
You made the right decision at the right time. Safety first. Nice dialled in pack. Take it easy bud.
It's hard to set aside your pride as a man and make that decision, but I think it was a good idea. Thanks for watching! 👍
Hello there. Bailing out on a Bushcraft trip is not bad; priorities, safety, over fun. Some may not tell if their Bushcraft failures but they should; you learn from them. Thanks for Sharing and Stay Safe.
Totally agree. I'm definitely still learning a lot and hope to keep learning and growing in this hobby. Thanks a lot for watching!
You had your plans and God had his. I always find it best to acquiesce to the will of God. Happy you came out safe and well.
Amen to that! Thank you! Looking forward to heading out there again in the fall
Well that is a bummer! Sorry to hear the hike with your daughter did not work out! Always another day for sure! Gregory are great packs and that’s a nice kit! Look forward to the next one. Trip failures are part of the process. We have all been there. At least you spent time with your daughter and that’s what matters most! Thanks for sharing brother!
It's definitely been a good pack so far. Hope it lasts a while still. Was kinda a bummer, but you're right. At least we spent some time. I think I'm gonna schedule another in the fall. Didn't know summer was here already 😄. Summer is for sure my least favorite weather to camp in. Thanks for the encouragement, and thanks for watching! God bless, brother!
@@awayinthewilderness4319 yeah I love the fall Sept-Nov is my favorite and early spring in the desert is awesome too! Keep up the good work! Love the Badger Claw Gear. Got a bunch of John’s stuff. God Bless!!
@@Riverbugger I'd love to do some desert camping. Never been. My wife has some family in the Phoenix area. Maybe we can do that sometime. Badger Claw gear is some of the best gear I own. Working on getting the whole line of products 😄
Don’t feel bad. Better safe than sorry. Don’t want your daughter to hate camping/backpacking.
I’ve had to bail several times. Most memorable was back in late ‘70’s (yes I’m old!). Friend of mine and I went to Adirondacks in early April to do a couple day backpacking trip during a spring break from college. We knew there would still be plenty of snow on the trails and were prepared with snowshoes, etc. Weather forecast was pretty good with chance of some snow flurries but supposed to be mostly nice. This was back before the internet, readily accessible weather radar, cell phones and things like that. About 20 mins before arriving at the trailhead it started snowing pretty hard. We arrived at the parking area and there was four inches of fresh snow and it was coming down hard. We started out anyway towards a lean to about two miles away but turned back after a half mile or so because we were having serious problems seeing the trail and trail markers. There was still a few feet of old snow on the trails and several inches of fresh snow but mostly just no visibility. Decided to stay in car overnight with our sleeping bags since it was still snowing. In morning there was over a foot of fresh snow. Fortunately, I had a snow shovel in the car (always did in winter back then) and we dug a path to the road. Road was somewhat plowed and we drove back to my parent’s cabin about 20 miles away. Spent rest of spring break drinking lots of beer at parent’s cabin and doing several day hikes instead.
@@mspellyt1 Glad you're still here to tell the story. Thanks a lot for the encouragement. My daughter and I are planning the trip again for this fall. 👍
I try not to camp in the summer because I’m just done with it……. Haha but 2 years ago I took a trip and bushwhacked my way to a camp in some thick woods that are owned by a friend of mine from church. By around sundown I was just being eaten by mosquitoes!! I did not have a bug net! And literally tried everything. Even burned some green pine branches so create some smoke to get rid of them. Nothing worked! It was early and I decided to call it. Around 10 o clock. Pitch black I hiked out and slept in my truck. And to make it worse every time I put my headlamp on I would get attacked!!! Hahah literally left all my stuff and had to get it in the morning. SUCKED! That was my worse experience. I also bailed once with a buddy of mine because we heard what sounded like a women screaming 😱 later we were told it was probably a rabbit. But 🤷♂️ it was freaky. Haha 😅 yeah man it happens…..
I was not expecting the bugs to be that bad right now. I thought about smoking them out with a fire, but only for a second. As soon as we were about to set up camp we were being absolutely eaten alive. By this point it was dark and we were using our headlamps. Another thing was I did not expect the grass to be a foot tall already. I was just there not long ago. Summer definitely started early in my neck of the woods. It's hands down the worst time to camp. I'm about there with you as far as camping in it any more. People, and definitely creepy screams at night would be freaky 😄. Hopefully none of that is in my future. Happy camping! God bless, bro!
great video. While I cant say much for the heat issue, other than maybe wear a bigger hat to keep the sun off better. Id recommend bringing a bug suit and a second water bottle. You're strong, so what's a little more weight?
👍 The Katadyn that I have actually carries 1L. So technically I did have 2 containers, but that one was not filled before I left. Bigger hat would help. Thanks for watching!
I've had many trips postponed for water reasons, usually too much falling to hard! I don't call them failures, simply experience. I'm used to camping in the rain tho, haven't had a too little water experience.
Was definitely a learning experience. Thanks for watching! 👍
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I've had to bail at the trailhead or into a hike tons of times. Floods, fires, stomach bugs....they can all end a hike.
If I've made the drive out there, I'll usually try to at least camp out near my vehicle for a night. I usually keep water and other drinks in a cooler for after the hike, so that might have worked for you.
That pack looked immaculate. All of the ones I've used have some sort of snag or stain on them.
That's a great idea to keep a cooler in the car. I do generally have a couple bottles of water, but a cooler would be great!
I try to take very good care of my gear. I'm kinda OCD, but I clean everything after each trip as well. When I'm hiking I try very hard to keep from snags and such. Thanks for watching! I'm definitely learning as I go.
desert hiking... 1 gallon per day per person .... if every one carries two 2ltr of water and keep them topped off ....
PHILMONT bsr august back in early 80s one quart of water for a full day hike for 8 scouts and 1 guide... when we got to base camp 2 went to infirmery for dehydration 4 under observation for 3 hours the 3 west desert rats gatorade and shade for 30 min
p38 is small p52 is large can opener you cannot take thru TSA
Wow! That's a lot scarier situation than we had. I haven't been to the desert, but I would love to. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it! 👍
Nothing more fustrating than needing water but not being to access a stream or river which you can hear and perhaps see, but can't get a way into it. Exasperating !
For sure! Thanks a lot for watching! 👍
Don't go chasin' waterfalls
Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to
I know that you're gonna have it your way or nothing at all
But I think you're moving too fast
😂. Nice one!
That stinks! 😢
🥲 Next time ❤️
You were right to call it. Water is Critical and obviously what you encountered at the first 2 sources did not look promising for continuing.
Thanks for sharing- a good lesson to keep in mind.
Thank you! Hoping for a quick summer and some colder weather to get back out there. Thanks for watching!
Very nice setup. The only things I would add is a mesh bug net. I'm from the generation that didn't have cheap water filters. So we always carried lots of water.
Because of that I always camped in the winter. Only recently am I getting into summer camping.
I carry a alcohol stove and a twig stove. I don't like the can stoves because you never know how much fuel you have. Plus they are so loud.
As for a suggestion on bugs. I'm from Maryland and camped around the eastern shore where mosquitoes are so big they could carry off. Well maybe a exaggeration but not by much. I coat my tarp,bag, outdoor clothes with Sawyer permethrin, then I carry sawyer picaridin. It is the best I've found works great even in Florida swamps. I can't use Deet it burns my skin.
Another thing I learned years ago. Is never sleep in your clothes you wore all day.
I believe camping and hiking should be enjoyable. If your not having fun nothing wrong with packing up. In my years we've had a few late night drives home. For the life of me I don't remember why or what. Some said we could go home and next thing we're in a vehicle. Lol.
Even after all these years just gotta keep trying things until you find what you like. Nowadays is the greatest time to be a bushcraft outdoors person.
In the 80s-90 we didn't have anything like the stuff now.
One last question I didn't see a folding saw. They are incredibly useful. Depending on the type of camping your doing.
Love this comment! I've heard of Permitherin, but not Picaridin. The bug situation is one thing I have not figured out. This year I plan on finding what works for me. I'll keep these things in mind. I also love alcohol and twig stoves, but generally carry the cannisters on hiking trips just for the speed of boil really. This was a lesson learned and plan to get back out there when the weather cools off again. I might stick to mostly camp sites this summer until I find out what will make camping in the Backcountry more enjoyable in the hot weather with the bugs. Thanks a ton for the advice and for watching! 👍
Forgot to mention that I do carry folding saws a lot, but was just trying to trim some weight on this trip and figured we would have plenty of downed twigs for a fire. 👍