How Total War ROME 2 Proved Everyone WRONG
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- Is Total War ROME II worth playing in 2021 now that Total War Rome Remastered is here? The answer is a resounding YES.
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What game is special to you? The game you always find yourself coming back to?
AOE3
If I would be honest, Kingdom Come Deliverance. Great game. If I would just say for total war games, empire.
@@laingram8337 AOE3 is underrated imo.
@@magako_v.3 I haven't played KCD. I gotta get around to trying it!
Star Wars Empire at War and Rome TW, Rome 1 will always have a special place in my Heart
*Talks about Rome II*
*Plays Rome I’s superior music in the background*
Just as Jupiter intended.
some of the rome 2 music is great such as de bello but ofc rome 1 music is better.
Total War Rome 2 menu theme is great
Everyone knows rome 1 europa barbarorum had the best music
I like that rome 2 pre battle song that goes, “ AHHHHHHHHHH AH! Dun dun dun dun dun a dun a”
Total war Rome 2 literally gave me my passion for history
That's awesome to hear. AoE 2 and Medieval Total War 1 inspired mine :)
Yep same here, but my passion was only for Modern (1500s-2000s) history until it released
Me too
Me too. Then started watching all youtube videos about rome. Long live Rome!
I started in Rome 1, then Napoleon, then shotgun 2, then Rome 2, now I play crusader kings 3 like heroine
Can we just take a moment to applaud Medieval 2 in how its still one of the most played TW games! Absolute god tier game. We NEED a remaster of that
Agreed. We also need a Med 3.
@@happycompy I'd take M3 over a remaster but no reason why we can't get both :)
We are getting a remaster of it eventually
@@Sol-hd7pz depends on the rtw remaster success probably
See now if anyone has played the RTW remaster now, it's good but it's still just RTW with a modern texture polish & ui overhaul. In my personal opinion and I love Medieval 2 as much as anybody, but I do NOT think a Medieval 2 remake will be able to top the hard work that the modding team of 1212AD have done on Atilla.
Rome 2 is the total war I reinstall when I'm in the feeling for total war.
I'm guessing you never uninstall Medieval 2
@@JudoMoniz thats right
@@Nigel1Powers good man
@karo tref sounds stupid but its kind of the most modern for a historical total war player. Three kingdoms and Troy went to far in the "hero units" aspect it doesn't even feel like a total war game and Atilla isn't everyone's cup of tea not to mention it runs a lot worse then Rome 2 unfortunately or I would be playing 1212 mod on it.
your other options are all older then 7 years
@karo tref of course. Best theme for a total war besides middle ages
The roman period is just the coolest
I love it.
Medieval also.
Exactly. The variety of factions, the history. Its just incredible. I've always been totally fascinated by the Romans and ancient history.
Medieval times is also cool because of the armours and cruzades
I think the Victorian era would be neat.
I like Rome 2 in the fact that the scale feels larger with the garrisons and able to play with double size armies. It feels more alive with the factions like the world is more populated
Completely agree, especially after playing Rome: Remastered.
The fact that you put rome 1s music in it is another area that game is superior. The soundtrack will never be topped
I agree.
The music composer for Rome 1 has his own UA-cam channel, u guys should check him out if u don't know it yet.
@@billielachatte4841 what’s it called?
@@Cluadiusmaximus Jeff van Dyck
Rome I soundtrack was legendary. I still get goosebumps to this day. Its unparalleled
"they left Total War:Attila"
1212 mod: *hey*
Ancient Empires: you up?
1212 kicks ass
Not gonna lie, ROME II does change my life as well. When I saw your fan-made Seleucid and Pyrrhic War trailers 7 years ago, those videos have inspired me to make history-related videos and it still lives up! Honestly, sometimes I kept coming back watching your old videos for the sake of nostalgia!
Note: For any of yous who are new sub to this channel, I recommend watching his old cinematic stuff especially his Pyrrhic War intro. It still ages well!
You are the one behind all the cutscenes on Kings and generals channel Thats cool
Wow, I had no idea! The work you do is absolutely fantastic my friend. Creative Assembly should hire you to take their official in-game screenshots!
@@happycompy Haha thanks but I don’t think I would reach that far. However, I’m still waiting for you to reupload fan-made Seleucid intro 😀
wow only 42 thumb ups, not too many Kings and Generals watchers
@@nomooon one of my favorite YT channels
This gonna sound odd, but one of the things I love more about Rome II is the voice models, they really hype me up. In other Total War the soldiers seem "too calm", but I love that sometimes when you select a unit it says in a motivated way "ROMA INVICTA" , "FOR MAKEDON" , "BAAL HAMMON HAS BLESSED US".
Yeah some of the voice acting is epic. Some of it, like the barbarians on campaign map however ....spare my arse.
@@happycompy Yeah the barbarian voices are terrible in rome 2. Voice acting in rome 1 was much better in my opinion, especially the dude that voiced the roman speeches.
@@450b I prefer Rome 2's voice acting overall but the generals speeches and the barbarians go to Rome 1 no contest.
Yeah, and then they didn't exploit it by not having general speeches nor campaign intros
@@juanjoseph I really like HATG's intro: "Hannibal, my son..."
Combined battles are epic. They need to bring them to future total wars
Agreed. I used to dislike them due to their jankieness but they really grew on me.
@@happycompy Total war Attila is also amazing game, you have 2 of the greatest mods ever made 1: Rise of Mordor which is a remake of Third age mode and 2: Seven Kingdoms mod which is Game of Thrones , also Attila has better blood and death animations then Rome 2
Antiquity does feel foreign in many ways, but to me, it also feels more akin to our modern world. The importance of republics, politics, philosophy and culture over just religion, institutions over individuals, wars for profit instead of religion, etc. I think it’s that balance of familiarity in an unfamiliar world that makes me love the ancient setting. And also the legions and hoplites look really cool.
Wow that was really well said. You know, I never thought of it like that...the similarities to our modern world. Like you alluded to, maybe that's what makes it so relatable? It's fantastical yet familiar in some ways as well.
Dude....you are totally correct....
But you also have to think that most republics or democracies back then have almost nothing in common with our modern form of it. The population of Athens for instance was made up vastly of slaves and only a small part were actually considered citizens. Also in the middle ages most wars were fought for lets say pragmatic reasons + a religious background.
That's because after the downfall of Christianity as an ideology they needed to take something as base, so people copied the ancient world on purpose. Funnily enough it's ending up the same way it did back then.
You know the Middle Ages had the best government type?
The Divide et Impera mod made me fall in love with this game
Mods are 100% what keep me coming back again and again. DEI is fantastic.
Divide et impera is essential for rome 2. And medieval kingdoms 1212ad for atilla.
Thoughts on graphics and playability AE vrs DEI?
Both ancient empires and dei are both very good. They have totally different styles tho try both and see witch u prefer
Would you say that Divide et Impera is the best way to play Rome 2? I never managed to click with Rome 2, although I loved Rome 1 and pretty much every other Total war. Any advice?
"The only thing that may kill rome 2 is rome 1".
It seems that rome 2 is now immortal.
this game is so much more historically accurate compared to all other total war games maybe apart from shogun 2
edit
also Atilla
Truee
Good point.
As an history interested person I cant play vanilla Rome 1 any more. Just having a divided Rome and United germanic tribes makes me sick
Shogun 2 historically accurate? Wtf? Heck no with that Katana Samurai unit.
@@christopheralfonsocastro1523 .at least Close to Accurate and you don't have to answer for that
Shogun II for me. Strategic, tactical, multi-layered, seiges are great, naval combat is different and at least good - and surprisingly quite optional, the entire map uniting against you just as you are about to turn into that "late game steam roller" is well done, and it has ninjas!!
This was one of the few TW that didn’t even need a MOD to feel great. The MODs just made it GOAT tier. Shogun 2, Med2, and Rome 1/2 are my favourites
Shogun 2 and Rome 2 will always have a place in my heart. I wish they kept Shogun 2's "drop in battles" even though 29 times out of 30 you'll just end up being dropped in a battle hopelessly outmatched by your human opponent, but there are the odd fair fights and even the lopsided defeats are strangely fun, despite being curbstomped in "regular" multiplayer not being very fun.
No realm divide mod saved shogun 2 for me
So proud of Bulgaria and the people in CA Sofia that they actually managed to do something cool. I saw that Total War Saga Troy has been developed by CA Sofia and I think it's a solid game as well
I really need to play Troy again.
We know from the imperivm saga thar bulgaria does great things for the gaming comunity,
Isn’t the combat for that game absolutely awful though?
You're in Bulgaria...
*Starts to cry* NO NO NOOOO
@@unspeakable6661 The campaing is amazing but the battles are meh yes. Unless they fixed them since the last time I played and checked reviews.
Bought this game back in 2014 and loved it ever since. Its literally the only game i come back every time and will do so for many years to come.
Same. It's just got that magic to it somehow.
Be glad you missed out in 2013 lol
Only the Imperials and thalmor can dislike *S K Y R I M*
My man!
Imagine your entire nationalist movement just being a Thalmor proxy war to weaken the Empire lmao
While I make no secret of how much I like Rome Remastered, R2 is still my preferred title.
A true chad can enjoy both.
Peoples nostalgia for Rome 1 blinds them to Rome 2 being fundamentally a better game.
Wrong.
If we're talking combat, I think Rome 1 has the edge. But the complete lack of reliable diplomacy kills the imperial campaign for me. This hasn't (yet) been addressed in the remaster.
So I'd agree, Rome 2 is just better.
I like rome 1 because I don't need a ton of system resources to play it. Just a straight to the point game with little fluff. Sometimes that's all you need.
Simplicity has its own charm, when ifirst played Rome 1 I hated the bright colors and historical inaccuracies. Now? I love those brightly colored Egyptians fighting Legionaries
they should've worked on the ai for the remaster
I grew up with rome1, Rome2 had to wait until I was able to open up to, but once I got it, years after launch, patched, fixed… damn, it’s a work of art. I can say playing as any faction gets you so attached to it to a level not even rome1 did. Yeah, it’s way more accessible and one lost army can be replenished pretty fast, money is pouring way easier etc. But There’s a feeling of passion coming from this game. A love that allowed the devs fixing it to make it arguably one of the most successful late success stories. I tip my hat to them.
Amen filip.
I'm playing Rome 2 every now and then. I came back to it everytime I got bored. There is something special about the era that fascinates me. Made me feel like a roman emperor, a senator a rebellious roman general or even a devious pharaoh. It's what I feel everytime I play Rome 2.
Role playing is awesome in Rome 2
I just want naval battles and naval siege battles that only Rome 2 has in all the other total games
Attila is also a gorgeous game which is really underrated
Agree, I love it more than 1212 mod
I’m sorry, I really tried to like Attila, but I just can’t deal with how unoptimized it still is to this day...
@@JohnSmith-bs9ym Hey it is not for everyone
@@lazystahlhelm5243 Yeah, just wish they didn't just up and abandon it lol...If my computer can run WH2: Mortal Empire smoothly, it "should" be able to run this relatively old game. CA is lazy lol
As of now, 1878 hours I've sunk into this game on Steam.
It has kept me coming back since it's release and still does. Endless replayability with the diversity of factions and units, often quite difficult strategy and economic management keeps it challenging and the setting is the most interesting of any Total War game.
The mods then elevate the game to legendary status.
Fantastic vid. The script writing for this was top notch. Your channel deserves way more subs. You should make vids on age of empires too!
Thank you! I considered making a video on Age of Empires 4 after its trailer was released, I didn't want to come off as overly negative so I decided against it. What did you think of the trailer?
@@happycompy I enjoyed seeing some features like the difference in playstyles among different factions, being able to ambush and hearing that sweet WOLOLO! However the graphics are a bit cartoonish and the unit scaling compared to buildings is a bit off. However I will judge the game when I play it and I hope there will be good modding!
Algorithm blessed me with this video 10 months later. As a fellow content creator I wholeheartedly agree with you on this video. After getting frustrated with WH3 I came back to Rome 2 and it just feels like home despite its problems. I’ve played TWW2 for so long I forgot how good it feels to play a historical total war. You’ve earned this sub and I appreciate your work.
Thank you man!
@@happycompy of course man!
Yeah, I really like Rome 2. I suffered at launch, but so few games really allow you to divide and conquer the map like Rome does (As Romans.) Getting to play as Octavian was a stroke of genius too.
Yeah I've played the Imperator Augustus campaign almost as much as the Grand Campaign.
Well Rome II has :
-Big uniques cities wich level visual changes according to its tiers
-Big armies on the field so you feel like you have 2 actual armies encountering each other
-Awesome matched sync animations between models wich is immersive af and is no more in modern TW
-Each units have their officer and banner
-Army can evolve through won battles thanks to the xp system
-Lots of diplomacy options
-Lots of differents factions with differents playstyle
-Stamina and moving carefully your units matters because you don't have nukes, magic, machineguns and everyone being a marathonian like in newer games
When you just can't let go of this precious gem
Big mood.
Yep I Play one Campaign for about 300 turns, then get bored and delete the game . 3 Months later I want to play this game again 😁
Gauls in Rome 1 - more men per unit
Gauls in Rome 2 - everyone has the same unit count even Pikemen
@Berserking Bishop oath sworn are just unfair
You know what I would want to blow me away? Alexander 2. Its just too good of an idea, come on CA!
I'd love an Alexander DLC for ROME 2!
@@happycompy no, not Alexander dlc, a full game. A full game with diadochi, rise of persia, and phillip II DLCs.
@@aleaiactaest6503 hmm. I'd buy it, but it smells a bit too much like a Napoleon to me, which would mean it would lack in the replayability department. Vaguely saga-ish. Lol.
I want to play as Persia and prevent Alexander from happening.
Not everything needs to focus on Alexander for that matter
NightyKnight they already have an Alexander mod on steam workshop
The fact that I had a slight smile the entire time just proves what he was saying... these games, this one in perticular, feel like home. I couldn't have said it better myself.
I'm glad you agree!
I'm more than guilty of making Rome 2 a top played game on steam. I love the game, and for sure, the classic period, also earlier, like the DLCs "Wrath of Sparta" and "Rise of Rome". The AI is very predictable, yes, but the troop models are super cool, and the idea behind on the campaign, playing a focused region like Italy or Greece makes me more sense. I like to see dozens of known settlements all over the greek world rather than being compacted into 1 single region of the province in the grand campaign, and ignoring tens of battles that would be needed to really conquer any place in the world. And I also like the huge impact on season effects behind sparta's DLC. Of course you will get no wealth from farms on winter xDD
Rome II has very good optimisation for me. Playing a game smoothly + playing an excellent game = unlimited replaybility!!!
Agreed the game runs really well 👍.
The number 1 thing I love in Rome 2 is the combat animations they make the game so much nicer
That was the exact reason why I wanted Rome 2 when I first saw it. I had Rome 1 when I was quite young and I enjoyed it (mostly just did custom battles though haha), and when I saw Rome 2 with its synced fighting animations I was awed. They really do bring a lot of life into the fighting.
This channel is criminally underrated, this was the first video I saw and based on the quality I thought you'd have way more subs. Great stuff!
Thank you! Very kind of you to say :)
We need to start a massive campaign asking for MTW III and Rome III if possible!
I'm game!
Medieval 3 would be so good. The historic enthusiasts are waiting Warhammer 3 to drop to see what next. I'll enjoy warhammer but nothing can't beat history
@@joaquimliengme4989 best comment ever! I coudn't agree more with this!
I would prefer a Empire Total War 2. The first had a very fun campaing with the best navals battles in the history of the game.
I never played Rome 2 at launch so I’ve only ever known it as a good game.
Rome 2 + Atilla got some best variety of factions and campaign maps.
Agreed.
Yes I would love it if they brought back the thing where anything u built showed up on map and city view of Rome 1 to the maps of the rome 2 era
The passion with wich you made this video, you not only made a good video, but you left a bit of your soul in it, thats why I tend to come back here each few months
Thanks Leo ❤️ I appreciate it
Observations:
1:59 - Never been happy about the Carthage map in Rome II - I'm sure we wish that you could at least go to the Acropolis and have some parts of Carthage expanded.
3:27 - CA Sofia def gave Rome II the updates they needed - but the cutscenes were really lacking. To this day I am disappointed of the lack of cutscenes in Rome II for that matter.
3:54 - Let's not forget CA Sofia also introduced new artwork for the Desert Kingdoms, the Empire of the Third Century actually had a neat narrative for each faction - playing as the Sassanids you got your own unique campaign stories as such. They have to be commended on this.
I would also point out that there is no TED/battle map editor for Rome II, but apparently LOTR team for Attila is working on a modding tool which will go for older total wars like Rome II - however first before anything that happens, LOTR mod has to be completed first.
This video will blow up MASSIVELY - your channel's gonna grow.
I agree with all of your points my friend :). I wish they had put in more cutscenes as well. Still, The three latest patches compared to the previous three really shows the talent and dedication that CA Sofia put into Rome 2. Here's hoping that we get a rome 3 ;)
@@happycompy Thank you! I hope so too! I'll predict that there will be a Rome 3. Not now, but in a couple of years. CA knows full well that the Classical Setting is too tempting. It all depends on where they go because after Warhammer 3, the next announcement for the new fantasy franchise is going to be massive. I wouldn't be surprised if they said they're gonna do LOTR - the fantasy franchise will also take the franchise forward in a way as well - sorry if I'm going off in a tangent, but much relies on what new titles/sagas and fantasy titles will be announced for the next 5 years
CA Sofia pulled a No Man Sky's approach on Rome II - and quite frankly they are one of the best developers with Feral combined. And CA the major studio has to be commended - they still listen to their fans no matter what.
@@MedjayofFaiyum I’m not sure if CA will be able to do LotR, because iirc the rights for that are still with the Tolkien estate. EA had the rights at one point (games like the hack’n slash for the movies, Battle for Middle Earth, and such), but not anymore. Not sure if the estate will lend the rights to CA, especially given that Christopher Tolkien had voiced great displeasure at PJ putting a greater emphasis on action in the movies (which the game would most likely be based on) and skipping over things like the songs and poems (the more literary aspects); not that he has a lot of room to talk, given that he endorsed the video game War of the Ring (which is arguably even less accurate than the movies). Basically, a game about grand strategy and conquering your enemies while managing public order and your economy doesn’t seem like it would be up the Tolkien estate’s alley.
@@jordinagel1184 CA did say they're in touch with several IPs and they're quite well known now, so I wouldn't put it too far out of the realm of possibility that they could be discussing with the estate. But EA has been..yeah.
I mean look at the Rise of Mordor team they haven't got much from the estate, and tbh the Estate has made huge money out of the franchise even if they disagree with the way it's being marketed in games or books.
I don't see a problem with CA for that matter making a total war game on it
Great video my friend! I'm a veteran of Rome 1 and I'm really excited about the remastered. I have purchased Medieval 2, Rome 2, Attila, and Shogun 2 in steam but I haven't invested time in any of them except Medieval 2. I tried shogun 2 for a couple of hours but I didnt have the motivation to learn it. I really want to try Rome 2 and invest some time in order to learn it but I am stuck at the beauty of Rome 1. Time will tell, if remastered is not what I expect it to be, I'll definitely gonna try Rome 2.
If you loved ROME 1, then the Remaster will likely be a no-brainer. You're in for a treat either way :)
And after Rome I Remastered, Rome II it’s still going.. again, another wrong prediction.
It's nice to be wrong
I love the way you narrate this video "the last hurrah of the ancients". My man this is some very good writing and voice over. The scenes you chose complement that very well and you made me want to play Rome 2 already (I quit Total War at Rome 2s launch and came back just now because of the Rome 1 remaster). I also very much like the personal spin you take near the end. If you keep making videos of this quality your channel is gonna become very very big in the near future! Anyway. Well done, you got one more subscriber here, keep it up and good day! :)
Thank you so much for this comment! I'm glad to hear you've come back to the series in honor of the remaster. How've you been enjoying it so far.?
@@happycompy Honestly not that well. Mostly I have had loading times that make it unplayable really. Which is super sad because I really like the improved graphics for the most part. However I've been playing Shogun 2 alot lately and that has been a blast!
Even in a video singing Rome 2's praises, we're using Rome 1's OST for background music.
That's because it's the GOAT.
I absolutely love Troy and wished they did an expanded Bronze age total war game around the middle east with the different players that fight for the Tigris, Euphrates, and Isreal. Like you said there is something completely new about the maps and factions in antiquity that medieval and more modern era games lose. As an American with a rough understanding of European history I can point out the nations of England, France, and HRE but I would have no clue about Carthage, Pontus, or Sythia.
I would KILL for a Bronze Age TW!
It's nice to see your dream come true after 2 years
@@fabianhak8300 true! I completely forgot about this comment
i still have it installed and play it semi regularly just cause its set in my favourite era of history
Me and my college friend played this game. We played it for one year and put 800 hours into it. I'd come home from class and he'd already be in my dorm working on the campaign. We would go to parties to try and be social college dudes, but eventually we'd get bored and go play rome 2 together. So many hazy college nights subjugating lesser factions. Now I'm a boring workaholic with a wife and kid. I haven't seen that friend in 7 years. Idk where I was going with this but I'm really sad now.
Thanks for sharing man. I too have memories playing Rome 2 with a friend for the first year of its launch.
The Antiquity was also a glorious period for Europe. Roman, Carthaginian, Macedonian armies and empires were massive and were only surpassed by 17-18th century counterparts.
"Glorious" is a great word to describe Antiquity, agreed.
Rome 2 was my first total war game. I picked up the Emperor edition after all the bugs had been fixed. I later abandoned it for Warhammer I & II, but it's still the best historical title IMO.
Rome 2 is still awful. My main criticism is the unrealistic morale system. A levy unit will typically hold its ground even after losing 80% of its men. This would be miraculous for an elite unit.... However, DEI is amazing!
Great video! Rome 2 has been the same for me I was 13 when it released being playing it since then now my life entirely different yet I still find myself returning to games like Rome 2 and Minecraft. The nostalgia hits very hard and it also hit very hard during this video. I think I'm in the minority that even though I tried Rome 1 after Rome 2 to see what the fuss was all about, I didn't like it so a remaster of it for me isn't anything special but I recognize it will be for a lot of people. For me Rome 2 the the total war game I grew up with and after all these years I do still come back to it every now and then for the reasons you said, to march my army into epic battles and the huge variety and massive world that it offers!
Thank you for sharing! Glad to know I'm not alone having a soft spot for ROME 2 :)
Thank you so much for this video. I never left Rome II. I stumbled onto Rome I late in life, around 2009. I'm 68 now, but I loved the game, still do, but don't play it anymore since Rome II arrived. It just felt like going back to "Junior-high" after reaching High School. A lot of complaints about this game. I never suffered from any of the bugs that others have, and at the time - I had a pretty "low-end rig" (i5 4670, GTX 660), although I did encounter occasional crashing. Sega let me know that I needed to verify the integrity of the game cache. Something I knew nothing about, since I'm not only a dinosaur, but usually a console gamer. After that, I never had any issues. I run the game on a newer (and better) rig now, and hope that I can live at least another ten years to keep playing this game! It's my favorite video game of all time! I've always felt that the game deserved a lot better than it received from the gaming community.
Rome 2 is by far my favourite TW game. Rome 2 and Shogun 2 are the only ones where I've really liked the feel of the combat (maybe because of synced animations, idk), units just feel slippery in the later games. And Rome 2 has a ton more unit and faction variety. It does still have its annoyances (like the inability to raze combined with tax inefficiency), but my Egypt campaign was my favourite of any TW game.
dude. This video was so well made you easily got my sub. Quality content, keep it up!! You got me so nostalgic i went and started a new campaign.
Thank you so much man!
The total war series gave me even more passion for history and although it’s not history rlly waiting for Troy a total war saga
Amazing video. I never played Rome 2 much but you make same very good points and open interesting perspectives I hadn't considered yet. Your passion for the game is very much tangible and I always love listening to people talk about what they're passionate about
Much appreciated! I'm really glad that my love for the game shone through in the video, great to hear. I also love hearing people talking about things they're passionate about, it's so much better than hearing a rant video imho.
Mate, I wouldn’t worry about Rome 2. I play a heavily modded version with DEI and quite frankly I couldn’t care less for Rome Remastered. I’m having too much fun playing Rome 2 with huge armies and fleets. Thanks to DEI, SaveParser and a plethora of DEI compatible mods, as well as my own mod tinkering.
Sounds like you have quite the epic mod list running.
@@happycompy I do. 😊😉
@@happycompy The only time I’ll consider getting Rome Remastered is if DaC converts over from Medieval 2. Otherwise I just won’t bother.
I think Warhammer was the death of the francize to be fair. all that magical jazz really ruined it all
If they make mediaeval 3 and make it good then they have a good chance of coming back
Spot on! I've played all the Total Wars, and Rome II has had tremendous staying power. I recently downloaded a mod that took the Attila terrain and environments and put them in Rome II... I will probably never go back to Attila TBH (and Attila still has serious performance issues too). I also love how you bring up Skyrim. For me, the 4 or 5 games that I always end up reinstalling tend to be Empire Total War, Rome II Total War, Star Wars Empire at War, and Skyrim.
Completely agree! I never got to play Empire At War though :(
Beautifully put. I haven't played Rome 2 yet as I'm still playing STW atm but I'm looking forward to it!
You're playing STW? The OG?
@@happycompy Yessir! After watching TW on UA-cam for years without actually ever playing the game I’ve finally decided to play the series starting from the beginning. So far I’m loving Shogun! But I sure am looking forward to trying out some of the newer games and their fancy new control schemes one day 👍🏼
@@khanofsteppe1667 Wow, you're a true chad.
Just watching the soldiers marching and fighting.... its beautiful. Units like like Sacred Band, Heroes of Sparta, Praetorian Cohort,Nuragic Warriors or Thracian Nobles,they look and fight so different.
Agreed. I love the unit design.
DEI Macedon campaign was low-key the best historical gaming experience ever.
Once I've played enough to make a review for Rome: Remastered, I'll be back to playing Rome 2 modded again :)
DEI Epirus is better in my opinion. You get to conquer Italy as Pyrrhus
I'm playing Rome 2 Emperor edition still today in 2023. It's fantastic, especially if you are an history nerd. I bought Attila the other day on sale but havent played it yet.
This was a great video, I feel the same way about Three Kingdoms. I've been playing Dynasty Warriors and Romance of the Three Kingdoms since I was a child. I was in disbelief when CA announced that they gave up on it.
I think most of us were :(
I never had to deal with the bad version of rome 2. Only been playing total war series for a few years but rome 2 has become my favorite and I own most of the titles.
I like epic walls and I like Roma Surrectum's building chains...
Great video! Rome 2 was my introduction to the franchise and while it has its errors and some mechanics are kinda outdated, I still enjoy it a lot. Also I agree with your statement about Attila and CA Sofia.
Yup, it's got jank. But it's our jank.
If CA made a 64-bit version of Rome II and optimize the performance I'll be a happy man
Attila is by far the better game, but the campaign setting is frustrating if you like playing as rome.
Agreed that Attila is a better game mechanically, but it chugs like a mother and the turn times kill the Grand Campaign pacing for me.
The 1212ad mod fixes it.
I really enjoy the antiquity setting of Rome, but I also really enjoy the Warhammer setting they’ve been doing.
Damm now I have to reinstall Rome 2 again. But I agree to all of your points. When stuff like Familiy tries, desert tribes and especially rise of rome dropped, I was moved to tears. They made me interested in factions I did not know exist, despite being a history buff. And the sheer diversity of cultures, armies fighting styles and more makes it so diverse and fun to play. More than Atilla and especially more than civil war titles like shogun 2 and 3k.
Well said. The civil war style Total Wars don't hold my attention like the grand scale games like Rome 2 and Empire do.
Amazing video man, keep up the great work!
Thank you brother! I appreciate your support.
Since Rome Remaster came out I have been playing a lot of ......DEI for R2 :D. I really love the more complex population system and the huge amount of unit variety and province specific units. Guess I just wasn't there for the original but the battles feel to fast right now at least without mods. for both me and the enemy I feel like my battles are over with a minute of the lines clashing and the rest is just watching groups of units rout for seemingly no reason. Although I was really enjoying having my dynamic general grow as I played along it was fun watching his speeches get more and more epic.
The campaign holds up in Rome Remastered, but the battles are clunky imo.
My fave Total War is Shogun 2. Because having a XVc campaing together with a XIXc campaing is unbeatable. Attila being a different game ruins Rome 2 for me, to know what could have been ruins what It is.
WH3 came out and with all the bugs on the first day. I reinstalled Rome 2 and enjoyed playing it to get my Total War fix. I love Rome 2 even though I own all the other TW games. Great video!!!
I didn't get WH3 yet. Probably going to wait until Mortal Empires eventually comes out. Maybe it'll be in a better place then. But yeah, Rome 2 and Warhammer 2 I play the most.
ur so good at narrating stuff and just talking, good job
I don't know what it is about Rome 2 but every time I play I just get incredibly bored like 5/6 turns in and uninstall it again...
Fair enough. You weren't the first person I've heard have that exact same complaint. I do think that the game lacks character in its UI, sound and visual design, and maybe that's what fails to capture some people in the first few hours of gameplay.
@@happycompy Yeah that could be it, I've only played the main campaign so maybe I'll give the others a shot and see if they hook my attention more quickly. It's weird because I love the roman period and a lot of the factions involved and I quite enjoy attila from time to time which is fairly similar (imo)
Same
I love this game like you wouldnt believe, i was a paradox fan before going full deep into rome 2, now i think rome 2 is the best game in all of human history
"There was a youtuber by the name Reynold Sanity" - how hard it is to hear when he is still on my subscriptions list for 5 years and I am waiting if he maybe comes back again some day...
Miss that guy.
There is so many mods it's very confusing for someone like me picking up the game after years.
The most confusing part is how the keywords on the Workshop don't work properly, and lead to pages and pages of extremely specific, often unrelated submods.
Imo, it's lacking user friendly small packs of comforts mods. Not heavy on modifications, no 2000 new units ( which DEI actually offers I think? ) and a long list of potential conflicts, no strict rules of installation, and available through sub click directly, as other mods are too big for that, and require old school installation.
It's not a critic towards modders, I appreciate that you have apparently gave your opinion on the base game ( and its DLC ) for most of the video, and don't assume that everyone will run a heavely modded Rome 2, which is an experience that honestly, most new comers can't bother with for obvious reasons.
It's almost two different games. I had that problem with Empire : I never recommended it to new players, because my experience with the base game was shitty, until I've spent hours and hours looking for mods, modding it, fixing interaction issues etc.
That's not what I call a game one can recommend.
To be fair, Rome 2's moddability is lightyears ahead of Empire's in terms of user friendliness. The workshop is clunky , but it combined with the game's built in mod manager are huge improvements over pre-Shogun 2 titles on Steam. I take your overall point, though.
I got into this game because of ancient history and is so interesting, I never thought I would enjoy RTS but I do and rome 2 is by far my favorite and I don't care if people trash it =)
What an unexpectedly emotional video. Great one too! I like Rome 2, but it's a shame that Attila didn't release as an expansion for Rome 2, because it has some cool features that would improve Rome 2 even though it's already fantastic.
I got Rome 2 the year it came out, I think. I was still little back then so I never had any problems with it. It included Ancient Rome, has epic battles, and that was enough for me. Great video man! Keep it up.
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed it :)
3 games have a special place in my heart. AoE2, Skyrim, Medieval 2. But rome 2 is becoming one of them. I bought that game in 2019/20, so I have never seen it in its release state. Which makes it easier to love this game I guess
Great choices, Attila!
Excellent points throughout well done. It's difficult to describe how disappointed I was with Rome 2 on its release, and yet now the game is at a stage where it's better than I would have expected before it's launch. It's a go to game for me to this day, and with mods it's probably my favourite strategy game of all time.
I'm with you there brother.
I think Total War: Persia would be great! India in the east and some unbending Greeks in the west. You can have Babylon and Egypt. You can either play the rise of the empire or travel around as rebels rise everywhere and kingdoms try to become independent. You could have homogenized armies or have it be put together by different troops, that you gather around your Empire. A bit like in Troy but cooler.
It would be a world the average player knows very little about, but we all heard of it.
EDIT: grammar
maybe an expansion for rome 2 or medieval but on its own it could be a bad launch
@@bugrilyus Everything could be a bad launch, that's why I only buy games that are fully patched. Never buy at launch!
I desperately believe Empire deserves a justice for its abysmal delivery and drastically cut content.
Same here
I almost cryed at the final :( good vid man, apreciate it, rome 2 it s like first coop game that i played with my old friends and it will allways bring me some memories
Hell yeah man, I'm glad to hear it.
Finally, someone speaks the truth about this. Thank you
You're welcome! Glad to hear someone else agrees :)
I can honestly say whilst I'm excited for Rome Remastered, i love Rome 2. It has become a great total war that is the last of the historic titles that I continue to play despite its age.
I share you feelings exactly.
I have played Rome II for approximately the amount of hours as you. I bought it back in 2014, when I was in the US. And to be honest, I barely played it back then, so I kinda missed the huge disappointment that it was back then. I guess the studio that made it what it is today and the game that I still really, really enjoy is the one based in my home country - Bulgaria. Btw, it's pronounced SOfia, not SofiA, it's the capital :D (they also made Troy, which I am still to try, got it for free from EG)
I guess I'll be commenting more on your videos from now on.
I hope we can play together one of these days.
Cheers!
Thank you for sharing your story! I need to look up how to pronounce it so I get it right next time :) Troy is definitely worth the price of free, I really enjoyed it.
This is the first time I watch on one of your videos, and I'm already subbing, and I'm in 3 minutes of video, what you said about total war Attila hurted me in the exact same way I feel about it. Good job
Oh, and yeah, Rome 2 is my second childhood game that every time brings me back to 2013. I was a freshmen in Uni, just got a laptop as a gift from my parents to use in Uni, an i5 second generation with the revolutionary Intel HD graphics and the rise of steam, my first two games? Total War Rome 2 and batman arkham City. I have such found memorys of this, from the shitty launch to its ever improving gameplay, I've done every campaing, every victory condition to Rome, one campaing as Macedon, other as the Suebi, and another campaing with divide et impera. And tô this day, every time I want to play a total war game, Rome 2 its my choice.
Thank you for sharing! I'm glad the game has a special place in your heart, too :).
Rome Remastered will not lay rome 2 to its rest.... it will show how glorified the view of most people at rome 1 is while proving how advanced Rome 2 is at the same time... i recently played Rome 1 at IOS.... man its just so simplified
I think most people will play one or two campaigns and than return to rome 2
Think It comes down to what you prefer, If you like more cinematic battles and historical accuracy you play Rome 2. But for a sandbox strategy game you play Rome 1 imo, simply because the battle engine is better and all armies can be independent without a general allowing more tactical freedom.
We will see :) I tend to agree with you.
Nah sorry, it anoyes me to much that every body is running around with full stacks in rome 2. It's just a grind to fight against 100 one-city factions with full stacks.
Why don't you post this on reddit?
It'll be a storm fest xD!
I did :)
@@happycompy awesome!
What an excellant video. You have spoken quite well and clearly. I agree with everything except mods because I havnt actually tried any for Rome 2.
Another point I would add also is that I love the diversity of units in Rome 2 in contrast with countless spear militias and mounted knights in Medieval 2.
Agreed about the spear militias.
Excellent video and well stated! This now-great game defintitely deserves its status as a titan in the Total War line of titans! I also agree with your assessment that Rome 1 still did some things better, and I am anticipating the Remastered release of that classic!
Thank you for the feedback, I'm glad you enjoyed! Sounds like we're both similarly hyped for the Rome Remastered, too!
Honestly Rome II, Napoleon and Empire Total War are in my opinion the best of the entire series!