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- Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB Baker Mayfield led the Bucs to a playoff win over the favored Philadelphia Eagles in his first year as a starter for Tampa Bay. Baker went on to say that '"it's fun being counted out." Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy discuss if Baker has done enough to earn a long-term deal.
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He certainly has NOT. 1) 5 wins vs division foes. 2 vs bears/vikings 1 vs titans. That's 8 of 9 wins vs literally the worst teams in the NFL. Fact is he did enough to win the nfls weakest division against terrible teams. That's it. 2) When playing teams with winning records that leaves a nice 1-8 mark. With the solitary quality win vs a Philly team the entire world unanimously agrees didn't bother to try in any phase. He's yet to win vs a quality foe. 3) He's frequently off target. So many times he has his receiver wide open...and misses...and by a significant bit lol. And when he playing from behind he withers.
I think he's done enough to merit a better payrate...but still on short term. Unless he cab string wins together vs contenders it's a wasted venture
@@shiny4ujesus447it's the first season he's been there, with a new coordinator, new coach, recievers. Jeesh man, you'd think his last name was trump. 😂😂😂
No wonder these people are on the c show.
For some context, Baker gets drafted 1st overall to the Browns, a bad team (a story that never ends well for any QB). He actually does a pretty good job but suffers some injury setbacks. He then gets shuffled to the Panthers, an even worse team. He then gets shuffled to the Rams, his first good team, and he learns the playbook in a couple days and plays great. Since the Rams have Stafford, he gets shuffled to the Bucs, a bad team (went 8-9 last year with Brady, the GOAT)....and yet he's now 10-8 heading into the divisional round of the playoffs. Think about all that change taking place during your 20's with different teams, coaches, coordinators, playbooks, fans, cities, relationships, etc. Whatever he lacks, it's not mental toughness.
The Bucks are not a bad Team they were 2 years removed from the Super Bowl and a playoff team what are you smoking on.
@@blackdynamiteSJCVegas projected the bucs to win 3-4 games, do u really think the bucs were a good team ? They went 8-9 with the goat and had 80 mill in dead money. Ur crazy if u think they had a good team.
@kevinpacher4831 Vegas is wrong a lot the had the Texans at less. The Fuax GOAT was old and tired.
Exactly
@@blackdynamiteSJC so before the season when every analyst was predicting the BUCS to win two games, you were saying "naw they're a good team"?
Horrible takes. Bakers had 8 head coaches in 6 years. 5 of those years were with the Browns and Panthers the two most unstable organizations in football.
It’s ok..these same morons said Hurts was the 2nd best quarterback in the NFL
He has, but he's not the only guy ever who's went through that. Alex Smith went through that (if not worse) in his career too. Not only with coaches, but with coordinators too and 17 different starting WRs before Harbaugh
@@jctsliceill Tell you as a long time KC Fan.. Baker is Better than Alex
@@jctsliceAlex Smith did not go thru that and worse. Not only that but his only great season was under one of the best coaches ever
@@TawandaTD97 how so ? Based on what ?
This was a throwaway year with 80 mil dead cap, and they got to the playoffs, aaannndd got a win. C'mon man
@@user-tn8uu2cu8g allah is satan
Baker has earned a Geno Smith-like deal. They were supposed to be a 4-5 win team. Now they don’t have to do a full blown rebuild.
Naw they had talent on both sides
@@MrEmmanuelmacksame talent that was trash before TB12??
Get real you dumb mf 😂
@@MrEmmanuelmackthey have the worse run game in the league a new oc. The defense is slightly above average this isn’t a winning formula without good qb play
@@yohancemosley4470so you are saying those 219 YAC and 3 TDs against the Eagles are QB play?? 👀
@@Joker.9.9.9You don’t know football
Acting like Tampa isnt playing with 80 mil in dead cap and a roster that's a ghost of itself even from 2 years ago is wild...
You're mad at a team that went 9 and 8 that was projected to win 4 games before the season started.
Nah they’re mad because the Bucs beat the Eagles at home in the playoffs 😂😂😂
who is mad ?
@@princecheck11did you listen to how mad joy be when she talking about baker?
@@gladiator1348 she wasnt mad you clearly dont know what mad is she was providing context thats it
@@princecheck11she definitely salty
Shady isn’t looking at this in context…they Bucs wernt supposed to be good. Baker elevated a team. Acho is right, they’re moving goalpost. All that matters is they made it to the playoffs and they beat a team that they wernt supposed to. Shady being a hater right now.
You're asking too much of Shady. He doesn't think further than the next 5 yards... and never had to. And as it worked out so well for him, he'll never change.
Facts no matter how well Baker plays he will get discredited. He’s a guy people love to play with. If Baker played this year went 4-13 19 TD 15 INT everyone would would be like oh we expected him to play like this, etc. If he could stay in a constant system he could absolutely shine but nobody wants to see that. Hoping he can make it to the conference championship so all of the doubters can keep doubting him
@@Kodie128 I still hope Tampa are going to offer a decent contract (3 years, 90 mil guaranteed).
@@jeanfourcade I think that's the perfect contract for him
Shady is a baker hater.
I love how they always mention Shady with the Bucs Super Bowl run like he did anything! 😂 he had 10 Carries for 31 yards all season and 0 Carries in the playoffs
I definitely agree with your stance but I think they do it because he was ballin in his prime so it gives him a lil bit of a run way to say he's a champion
It's sad that he would even acknowledge a ring he didn't earn 😂
I think it’s more funny that Shady went ring chasing with the best teams as soon as the Eagles got bad but he still acts like he’s ride or die for the Eagles
Careful he's a hofer
@@drexlightsworn2654 well to be fair he spent a few more seasons with the Bills and had some good seasons there but it’s just annoying how thy mention it every single time! And it’s like let’s not act like dude was a playoff performer he had 1 total playoff rushing TD
Joy: I swallow everything I just said. No pause!
Pervs: WOOOOOORD lol!
I love her man lmao!
My face: 😮😮
I’m no baker faithful but dude is balling idk what they talking about his numbers were not bad this year.. he’s went through more coaches than most and still has 2 playoff wins under his belt he’s got a real chance to beat the lions imagine baker in a championship game lol
The "no pause" moment earned my respect.
you caught that too Lol
😂😂😂She's definitely one of the guys. She's like that one girl that can hang with the guys.
Y’all know what that means
Homie, I was cooking and said "Wait, what she say??"
Yeah and of course shady was giggling too 👀👀😂😂
It crazy that Deshaun Watson get a pass for doing literally nothing.
Watson is 8-4 as the Browns starter playing through injuries. Justin Herbert is the qb who gets a pass for doing nothing
Shady might skip work on Monday if Baker finds a way to beat the Lions and ends up in the NFC Championship game😂😂
Shady is just hater. He's still salty about the "Dream" team in Philly that flip flopped 😂😂
@@Fuckmeltzer1and he’s mad Big bad Bienmy is going to be a HC
@@Fuckmeltzer1he ain't hatin, they all made some good points....jus because you don't agree wit his comment dont make him a hater
@@georgeevans1149fr everyone these days labeled a hater when you differ in opinion
@@georgeevans1149Like how he was talking mad sh** all season long
When Tom wins in Tampa it’s cuz he’s that dude, but Baker wins with a lesser version of Tampa it’s cuz that team has ballers. Cmon man
Bro this tampa team is actually a better team than last year, wtf are you talking about. More healthy and better play calling. Brady wouldve run away from this division easily.
To be fair, Brady won a Super Bowl. I still think this conversation is disrespectful to Baker. Baker has more playoff victories than most of the younger QBs getting paid more than him, has been the only QB in decades with any success with the Browns, and is a big reason why the current Bucs are in the playoffs and won a game. Baker deserves the credit for the success he has had. The only real knock against him is his time with Carolina and his last season with the Browns where the team went out of their way to harm Baker (playing him injured, front office comments on him, Odell's dad stirring up issues) to get Watson. The Rams team he played for last year was massively injured and didn't have most of their best weapons, there is a reason the Panthers were bad last year and the year before, and Tampa was a losing team the year before in an arguably weaker division. Baker is a good QB and if you can secure him to a deal making $30-$40M a year, he may be worth it and allow for the Bucs to build around him amd fill their other holes. The other question is who would the Bucs get if they don't keep Baker. They draft too late for the top talent QBs, any trades would possibly cost more, and draft trades would prevent the Bucs from filling other holes. A couple year deal would be good for both the Bucs and Baker, giving Baker some consistency with a team that wants him and has some faith in him and giving the Bucs a chance to build a better team.
Did yall forget that Baker Mayfield is 2-1 in the playoffs?
Same wins as Dak Prescott let that sink in.
Just think if Baker and Love win this weekend just think what Jerry Jones will be thinking. Love and Baker in the NFC championship where Dak has never gotten to.
I don't understand why Love's being mentioned here. Dude is legitimately playing as good as any QB in the NFL in his first year as a starter.
@@heyohworld4067maybe because he doesn’t have a lamb as wr1 or had a mvp like season and has the chance to make it further than dak in his first year as a starter lol
Dak isn't the best Black quarterback in the State of Texas.
Man a green bay vs Bucs championship game would be crazy after how the season has been. But I'm hoping for a lions vs Packers NFC title game just because of that rivalry in a championship game would be off the charts
@@theboxingboy7422 not gone happen I’ll bet 1k my niners win we ain’t Dallas yall forget how many nfc championships we been too in the last years regardless of win /lose they make it
“The Bucs barely got in” then put a whooping on the Eagles Shady needs to stop
The eagles didn’t have aj brown and had a hurt Jalen hurts 😂
@@MysticalLlama nawl don’t make no excuses for the eagles.. the fans was so confident this was a easy game
Are you forgetting bakers' hurt as well? @@MysticalLlama
The same eagles that lost to cardinals in giants 1-6 could have finished the season 0-7.
the same eagles who were running their mouths all season about the 49ers in the nfc title game then got destroyed and never recovered yes those eagles
They keep bringing up that a 9-8 Bucs team are average and got lucky blah blah. The New York Giants were 9-7 during the regular season the year they beat Tom Brady in the Super Bowl.
And beat three top teams to get there
If Baker wins a Super Bowl this year then he is worth whatever Tampa pays him. Until then he's not worth $100 Million in my view.
The only 9-7 team in history to win a sb? If bucs win the superbowl they would be the only team ever to lose 8 games and win. Looking at history yes u should doubt the bucs if u think every team can win the Super Bowl ur just being a lazy analyst. If bucs win the superbowl props to them they deserve it but they going to have a long way to go. Good news is they do play the lions so they have a decent chance of winning.
Tom Brady went 9-8 with thd buccs the year they won so...
@@lanceneol865 they were 11-5 lol.
I need Joy and Shady to understand how the Bills got into the playoffs because they weren’t even supposed to make it in had the Dolphins taken care of business and the Jaguars didn’t lose the last game of the season
The Bills though....man you talk about a turnaround...just as much as Philadelphia crumbled in the last couple of months, The Bills turned on the afterburners. I don't even like the team, but you have to respect that kind of effort.
No, they still make the playoffs even if Jaguars and Dolphins take care of business lol. With a 11-6 record, they'd be 6th or 7th seed. This just would have meant Steelers and potentially Texans miss the playoffs. Also, not like that was particularly lucky or hard to see happening, especially with the Dolphins. 1-6 against teams with a winning record.
@MultiJm82 he might have meant if the dolphins beat them and the bills had 10 wins
@@MultiJm82 no, they literally would have missed the playoffs in the Jags and Dolphins won (meaning a Bills loss) in week 18. It was literally one of the scenarios
@@JD-jz5gu I mean sure, but as long as the Bills controlled their own destiny and won out, they were in. As long as they won out, they were in. This isn't really an own, especially with how Bills own Dolphins in the Josh Allen era.
Some people clearly misremember Baker's exit in Cleveland. A washed OBJ blamed his struggles on Baker (but the team was better when OBJ didn't play). Then Baker was forced to play hurt. He never had consistency in the front office. He brought the team from 0-16 to 11-5 and beating a division rival in the playoffs. Let's not act like it was Baker's fault. Cleveland got enticed at the prospect of Deshaun Watson and tossed him aside like trash
You’re dumb if you think Obj was the problem with that team. Baker clearly played hisself out of Cleveland
@@oseokoyo someone didn't watch the season. The Browns made Baker play hurt. He had to have shoulder surgery right after the season. That organization is a cesspool. They tossed him out like trash. All so they could get massage parlor papi for their QB
Is that you, Skip Bayless?
Ask the Rams if OBJ was washed.
Baker was and is an average qb who has benefited from an extraordinary amount of hype. He is in the category of Carr, Minshew, and Jimmy G. Decent qbs who can get you some wins but not the long term answer.
@williejohnson5172 I'm a Ravens fan and yes, OBJ is washed and has been since NY
Thank you Acho only one who really spoke the truth man💯💯
Baker might be the most underrated QB the only reason the browns let him go was because of Odell Beckham and his dad. Baker is going to prove what kind of QB he really is.
Exactly. And I hated that bum even though he came to LA
Lmao! Dude was missing open Receivers in a Browns loaded offense. Look at Njoku's numbers with Flacco, compared with Baker. Dude had Landry, Beckham, Njoku and Chubb. Bucs won a terrible division and now Baker is underrated. Lol! He's the white version of Geno Smith.
Yea and when baker was there njoku was the backup TE because austin hooper was a better run blocker. @Misternobody1999
Always be a Baker fan, Browns did him dirty, that being said...his last season he played hurt what the entire season? OBJ was possibly the worst thing to come to Cleveland, whatever happened between them he was not catching balls that were directly to his hands or catchable by his standards. Not saying Bakers throws are all good cause he missed alot but those in the last season were 100% catchable. Saw way more from Baker with multiple coaches then I have seen from Watson with one.
@@DadefreshXL
@@DadefreshXL look at their numbers with Watson lol. It wasn't just Baker. And Flacco is a better thrower of the football than either of them honestly.
The "no pause" was immaculate 😂
We gotta stop moving the goal post for players we don’t like. Joy said baker needs to go to the conference championship to be a franchise QB. Thats never been a qualification. Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert, Dak Prescott, Daniel Jones, deshaun Watson all got paid without going to a conference championship.
Facts
Another bad shady take jeez… baker was forced out of Cleveland cuz they thought he couldn’t win. All he’s done since is win. Browns played him with a torn labrum bashed him cuz Odell wanted to be a cry baby. If u wanna talk about baker talk about all he over came too he’s led two different franchise to the playoffs he even got the browns their first playoff win since 2000 ad
Shady is not aware of what you're describing, he's too lazy to do his homework.
Baker got more playoffs wins than LJ,Herbert and Lawrence not saying he better than Lamar ijs
It’s pretty irritating how all these experts say “he doesn’t have to do much because they have good players around them” 😳 you absolutely have to do a lot of it’s the NFL. Too many examples of having good players and QB still not able to do something. Give QB’s their credit.
Joy "if the bucs win this weekend ill swallow everything i just said no pause"
Shady "Whoahh😳" LMFAO
He just took a team that was supposed to win 4 games to the playoffs and a playoff win following in the footsteps of the GOAT. Acho is correct they moving the goal posts however a nice short team deal should be longer if he wins this weekend!
Baker has got more playoff wins than a lot of other quarterbacks in the league and some don’t have a playoff win at all~just sayin😊
Like Herbert
like dak 😂
I’m not even a baker fan but shady is hating man. lol
Shady is hatin. Pay Baker for 2 years.
3 years, 90 million, 3rd year team option
I would say 4 years 140 with a 5th year option.
James Jones says consistency. What was Rogers record his last year at Green Bay? Remind me again?
Thanks for ignoring the three years of 133-3 wins, take his last season as the bench mark.
“They beat a bad Eagles team” the Eagles team that was in the Super Bowl last year?
Eagles team finished the season1-6 even against teams with bad records and even got blown out, this is from a Baker fan
if the season was to start over eagles might not have gotten to 6 wins they were broken. Anythjng more then a geno deal from bucs will be stupid in my opinion. Then if he proves he can do it again with a harder schedule next year you could talking about extending him again.
lbh the 49ers beat the eagles for everybody 😂😂
Who knew playing for the Browns people would treat you like you are the Browns no matter who you play for......
He’s earned another year for sure, but he hasn’t proven anything really aside from that he can play well when he has a GREAT receiving core to throw to and relies on the good defense as well.
If he can play like this next year then he’s earned a 2-4 year contract
As a baker fan I rooting for him to win on sunday
Baker got farther than dak did with more talent. Eat that haters.
Tomlin barely posting over 500 records for 7 years straight: is this guy a hall of famer?
Baker posting a top 7ish statistical year his first year at a franchise that is trying to eat 80mil in dead money in one go: but what have you actually done?
Tomlin had zero franchise QB since Big Ben, what he did with the Steelers has been a plus. Baker looks like a franchise QB but these days teams are looking to sign ELITE QB, not just franchise QB. Bakers deserve the same deal as Geno Smith, but I doubt if he think hes only worth that much.
Joy a freak she let everybody know no pause
no pause at all!!!!! 👀
Baker is proving alot of doubters wrong this year. He was brought to Tampa to be a bridge and he exceeded expectations and against the eagles him and the defense showed out and they got that win. If it wasn't Damar Hamlin's year I'd deffo say baker would be the comeback player of the year without a doubt
He won 9 games in the worst division!!!
@@DrPhill96he won 9 games when Vegas projected to win 3 games. And Vegas is almost never wrong. Let’s be honest , baker made them better!
@@DrPhill96 yet every analysts and sportsbook favoured him to win alot less.. so like i said he exceeded expectations and won his division and won a playoff game and if he somehow beats the lions aswell and makes a championship game again people will move goalposts. Not saying he's one of the best QBs in the league he isn't but he's definitely made a good comeback this year
@@theboxingboy7422 - So “every analysts and sports book”? How do you know what “every” analysts and sports book favored? 😂🤣 You sound clownish. And Baler is still trash, just played in a horrid division and beat a team that lost 5 of 6.
They need to keep this energy when Lamar drops another egg and gets dusted by a rookie.
Baker is 2 and 1 in the playoffs, 7 tuds and 1 int, 104 passer rating
Lamar is 1 and 3, 3 td and 5 picks. And like 70 passer rating in the playoffs.
Amazing how Lamar gets all the love and accolades when he’s as bad as Dak Presscot has been with the ravens
They are consistent about anything other than reinforcing whatever bias they have for or against certain players. Joy is the worst about it...though Shady is not far behind her.
Here's another way to see things...Baker carried his teams to the playoffs 2 time in 6yrs...Lamar carried his Team to the playoffs 6 time in 6 yrs
Well Lamar bouta win MVP numba 2, no comparison lol
@@KClouisville Joy is the worst every time she opens her mouths. Goos thing she's embarrassing herself a little further evey week.
Lamer is the correct color
Shady saying "Woah" hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@user-tn8uu2cu8g I'm team Jesus.
All Baker has to do is play a good game
Happy Birthday, Joy! 🎂
"So you say it's your birthday, well it's my birthday too." No really it is. Happy Birthday.
Brady had the same players last year and they were out round 1?
Not to mention went 8-9. Losing record.
@@adambeahan3200 The offense with Baker compared to Brady is night and day. The offense is infinite times better than last year.
I love how joy talks like she actually played. Like me giving advice about to do ur nails
Basically all Baker conversations can fall into two categories: honest conversations about the fact that he’s clearly not a bum but might still need to prove a bit more, and haters.
How can you tell the difference? One will talk about his statistical outputs given the immediate context of the season as well as the historic context of the place he is at. The other will say “psh! Really? What he even do tho? Nuh uh, is he as good as Aaron Rogers? Trash.”
The problem with today is QB gets way too much blame and way too much credit. If you actually watched Bucs games all year, you could probably throw 2-3 losses on Baker specifically. The one argument any of them made against Baker that I agree with was when Jones talked about his consistency. Baker does have those stinkers a little too often. But the rest was just noise based on judging a young QB growing up in terrible organizations.
Yeah, none of them brought up any statistics to prove their point, it was pure conjecture. Also, we can assume that they haven’t really been watching any of the Bucs games based on the conversation as well. So, what they did was look at the Bucs record and regurgitated media talking points ie “the NFC South is the worst division in the league” I’m honestly not so sure about that and “they had a bad year” they did not have a bad year they had some really decent showing even in loses. Baker had over 4,000 yrs passing 26 TDs and like 10 ints those aren’t bad stats they’re above average. However, I do agree that he is a bridge QB for now unless he goes off next year.
Shady...how many years did it take Stafford to get to the SB? Edit: Shady, thePro Bowl is a popularity Contest. Antoine Winfied didnt make the Pro Bowl this year, yet he made 1st Team All Pro. What does that tell you?
Were these haters saying dak deserves his money a few years back?
Baker is on a team similar to Cleveland with a good defense & good receivers.. they’re a running game away from being
perennial contenders..
I mean he was a missed headshot against the Chiefs from taking the Cleveland Turds and their 21st ranked scoring defense to the conference championship in 2020. Wouldn't be shocked if they beat the Lions this week.
My Cowboys had a great regular season, but now look at us. Baker went 9-8 and in the divisional round 1 game away from NFC Championship game
James Jones nailed it at 2:30. Mike Evans is a FA next year so the more you pay Baker, the less you have to keep Mike. So now you have to ask is Baker worth it without Mike? If I'm Baker, I'd be fine taking a K Cousins type deal if it means they can keep Evans.
They had 80 mill in dead money, they will have money to pay players next year. I think he is worth 30-35 a year for 3 years. I won’t pay Evan that much, He is past 30 even though he is great.
Baker won the division and is having playoff success with virtually the same team that the "goat" Brady had. Shocker.
Cleveland didn't treat Baker Mayfield so well and now they are crying in their beers because the Browns are out and the Bucs are still in the playoff dance.
Every team tht succeeds has very good players around them
Did they forget Baker had a different coordinator in Cleveland every year? So it's his fault a bad franchise drafted him and didn't give him any stability?
Lmaooo she said No pause HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SWALLOWED HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SWALLOWED UP
Here's the thing about Baker...he shown you how well he plays based on the franchise he's with...Browns had bad coaching but decent talent and he got to the playoffs. He went to Carolina with no help on offense with a injured CmC....Point is baker needs help, and if he has help on offense he can succeed. He's not a player who needs a run game to be good. He can sit back and throw
The Bucs ranked 31st in rushing during the season btw
He had the coach of the year in 2020 when he made the playoffs in CLE.
He also had Nick Chubb, who was a 1000 yd rusher who averaged 5.6 YPC.
He needed both to win in CLE.
@@XlenceCwell now he has the worst run game in the league and a mid defence and look, dude has evolved and he's always had one of the best arms in football
@@XlenceCwrong stefanski didn't coach the playoff win so try again...amd name a QB that don't need no one I will wait cuz you can't....this be the dumb responses I'm talking bout like baker the only one that win with talent cuz NONE WIN WITHOUT IT
@@itsmyopinion9479 they didnt have bad coaching, they had the coach of the year that season. They didn’t have “decent” talent. They had a top 3 line and top 3 RB. That was what I responded to. I’m not sure how well you comprehended that point.
The defense that forced five TO in that playoff game vs. PIT was led by an All Pro. He had dogs around him, which was also my point.
If you don’t understand complimentary football just say that.
The Bucs have the 31st ranked rush offense hasn’t he done enough
I hope Baker plays like he did that 11-5 season for the rest of his career, but with more consistency, I promise there are few people who love Baker as much as I do, but he does have many off games
@user-tn8uu2cu8g I'm a Christian
As a Bucs fan, I wasn’t on board with adding Baker but understood why because of dead cap money issue. Wasn’t impressed during the but he looked really good in the playoff win. He surprised me, but I think he should get a 2-3 year deal. This is what Bucs should have done with Winston if he cut his interceptions in half. Hope Baker keeps surprising me the rest of the playoffs.
I was all in on bake he's the most mobile QB we had in years and he's got a gun all these other teams overpaid for mid level QBs jimmy g got paid to sit on the bench Derek Carr got 100mill to not make the playoffs
@bucemall3273 Saints still beat the Bucs 2nd or 3rd to the last week of the season
Joy’s “I will swallow everything I jus said” “NO PAUSE” is craaaazzzyyy!!! 😅😅😅
I believe the Bucs are going to win this weekend. Baker had earned a long term contract. I think he deserves a 5 years $190 - $200 milllion contract. You have to remember, this is his first year in this system. He is still learning the offense and getting to know his receivers. $40 million a year for a good to very good QB in today's dollar is not a big amount. How much did the Giants give Daniels Jones? Baker is much better than Daniel Jones.
I agree but I'm kind of worried because there's rumors that Canales, Bucs OC, might leave for a HC job
You have unrealistic expectations of Baker my brother😂 So if they lose this weekend, you still gonna give him that??
@@lesterduncan2914 Yes, I will give him that money and build on this success next season. Which unemployed QB or backup QB out there that are better than Baker? $35 - $40 million next season is like $30-$35 million this season because the cap goes up. So $35 million to a better than above average QB is about right. Daniel Jones got paid 40 million per year and Baker is a whole lot better than Daniel Jones. Sign him and draft a QB in later rounds and hope you hit a lottery. Otherwise, who are out there that would give you a better option? I don't count his season with the Panthers because look at what happened to Panthers QBs the past 4 plus seasons. None of the QBs including Cam Newton did good. This year the number one pick looked like a huge bust. Are we already saying Trey Young (I think) is a bust because he sucks this year with the Panthers? If not, then we have to do the same for Baker. Baker was decent with the Rams for a few games and they don't want to pay him big money to backup Stafford who just got paid. But if Stafford retired this year, I am sure the Rams will sign Baker. Bakers did a really good job for the Bucs this season.
You couldnt be a gm because you can't take data and make an intelligent decision. Baker is good when there is no expectation and teams arent scheming for him!!!
That is a fact. The reason the browns traded him was because they knew that.
If you believe that a team that won 1 game above being 500 is good, you need to go back to preschool since your ambition is at a all time low.
Even Tebow was better than baker and for some reason they kicked him out of the league . Tebow actually beat a great team and a great qb, not a team that lost its last 6 games
Bruh the lions are going the demolish the bucs they have no chance
Bucs had a better record this year and went farther in the playoffs than they did last year with Brady
Acho is a dawg for continuing to stand up for Baker. These haters woukd still hate if he won a superbowl
You forget that while playing in Cleveland Browns he hurt shoulder and was never the same
Didn't have the chance, they got rid of him after his surgery
7:26 Jesus Christ I love Joy Taylor. A true lady 👏🏾
What does Jesus have to do with it
Cuz God made her
He did more than Carr for my Saints so he deserve some money
that,"no pause" on the swallow comment, still got me. ooowee, Just like it did mcoy
Yo they were only picked to be the worst team in the worst division at the beginning of the season.. that man deserve a 3 year deal
Simple, he deserves the Geno deal. Their numbers are comparable and so are their stories
The longer the segment went, the deeper into the hedges Ocho went.
I think its funny whenever McCoy doesnt know what to say he just starts hating
so shady hating but no one else?
Wish the Jets had atleast a baker mayfield 😢
Long term deal? Probably not. 3 years, maybe 50 guaranteed and 75 total doesn't sound too unreasonable. The one thing I will say in defense of Baker is that it's hard for him to be consistent if the team around him isn't or if he's hurt like he was his second season with the Browns. Give him an opportunity to build with coach Bowles and the players around him, build confidence and trust, and if his play improves and elevates year after year, then you know it's time for that long term deal
35 mill a year is going rate for an "average" nfl QB. So even at that 105m contract.
@@finefeeling4825 but the caveat is that he has played on 4 teams in 6 years. I wouldn't commit that much money to him just yet. Enough to keep him happy that he's well taken care of, but also to make him hungry to go out and prove he can get to that level with consistency
75M still a lot of money
@@cjfrm3658 not when only 50 is guaranteed
I'd say you sign him 3-5 years but make only 1 or 2 year guaranteed, because how many QB's are going to come across better than him - not many. And this team is a win now team...
“No pause” ☠️
Whoa whoa whoa?!?! Bakers play? We're talking about the guy who shouldn't of been out there playing at all. The guy who had a brace on his shoulder that didn't allow him to complete his full throwing motion and a brace on his opposite knee. The dude is a warrior and at some point it is the coaches job to save him from himself and make him rest. While I agree the Eagles arent good, it is odd that they choose to acknowledge that now finally. Lets discredit 300 yards and 3TDs in the playoffs by saying his opponent is bad but that same team ride their D all season. At the very least he earned a hefty 2 year deal. It is crazy to say otherwise.
I agree with James. You give him a short term deal because other than this year, he hasn't shown he's a franchise QB. Give him a figure that shows appreciation for how he played this year and that you don't want him to leave, but don't give him so much that if he reverts to his old self, you feel like you got robbed.
Tf you talking about clown
What was his old self? He was injured
False. Dude balled in 2020 and his rookie year
I know and Mike Evans a Free agent this year
They're comfortable paying Dak? These are the same people who say Dak will never take the Cowboys to the SuperBowl ever!! I'm not even a Baker Mayfield fan.
I love every take. This show is my go to show for excellence.
Yea A Short Term Deal Is Reasonable
He definitely does, he is just a the starting qb we need, his not as expensive and a leader.
WE NEED TO SIGN HIM!!!
What is bro yapping about
No pause 7:24 😂😂😂 that’s crazzzzzyyyyy 😂😂😂
So media praises geno for making playoffs last year and say he deserves a starting job... But when baker makes playoffs with a worst team and WINS a playoff game he gets hate for it??? Makes no sense
Joy's logic is 100% on this topic
No, it's really not. Her whole bit about Baker being "comfortable" and being bad is ridiculous....he went from his best year to playing with a shoulder that needed surgery for 3/4 of the year? That's comfortable? Lol.
Great sport show hands down.
Funny because none of them took Bucs over Eagles last week. Shady said it was no chance because Bucs scored 9 against Carolina
3/4 on this panel had their mind made of when baker was drafted. Their mind won’t change.
Let’s be honest. Barely winning the word division in the NFL playing for a team that reached the Super Bowl 2 years ago doesn’t really grant you a long term contract but being honest during prisoner of the moment hours isn’t really a popular thing to do this days. If he beats the Lions then he earns it.
Yeah but 2 years ago they had Brady gronk and Antonio brown and Godwin and Mike where younger
@@kianbozorgmir2183and there defense was way better and they had a power running back
I bet if Baker was black your tone would be different. 😂
@@kianbozorgmir2183 The defense is still there, the receiving core is still there. The coach and GM is still there. He was going against Carr and two teams basically rebuilding.
@@enigma13ffThen why did they go 8-9 last year with Brady if everybody was still there?
Joy is killing it with great questions
No she is not
@@user-lt1fx2he5s She's an idiot who speaks confidently when she's not actually saying much and just reinforcing her biases.
Shoutout to baker mayfield im really happy for him give him some kinda deal 💪🏿
Show me the shahada in the Quran and I become Muslim today? Or the Ten Commandments? You need Jesus your lost
So he’s gotta take a team who was picked to be in contention for a top 10 draft pick to a conference championship in order to earn y’all respect? 🤔
As a long time Texans fan, Baker has always reminded of a young Case Keenum!🤔Got the heart, got the grit, got the spectacular MOMENTS but can't ever get those consistent wins...
Don't ever put Keenum and Baker in the same sentence. I'm a vikings fan that appreciates Keenum but don't do that
@@lf2856 LMFAO RESPECT!👊🏾I GOT MAD LOVE FOR THE MIRACLE!
Case keenum never had the arm talent that Baker does, so that's a terrible comp
Lmao Case Keenum?? Whaaat
Cleveland played Baker instead of Case, even with a torn up shoulder Cleveland played Baker because torn up shoulder and all, Baker was still better
Baker is baking up some love in Tampa! 🎉 NFC Championship here we come!
James. Is on fire. Great. Job. Man y make this show so much. Better
Leave it to Acho to defend and claim a dude who was the #1 pick with most expectations but had the least success deserves a long term contract while he was the #1 vocal dude claiming Ravens shouldn’t pay Lamar Jackson who was the last pick of the first round who has achieved more with less expectations.
🧢🧢🧢
Mayfield, of course, will want a long term deal....however, I'd bet anything he's not going to be asking for Lamar money...there's a big difference there.