ENDLESS BUFFS!! ...is Phastos a perfect fit or a fail??
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Phastos is Marvel Snap's newest cards, and he's been one of the most anticipated cards of the month. Does he live up to the hype in a greedy Silver Surfer deck?
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Power Estimate: This deck had a positive win rate for me at 56%, but I can't say it felt especially smooth to play. Phastos seemed good when played on turn 3, but really suffered any time he was drawn or played later, which gives me concerns about his viability in general. If he isn't perfect for a deck that should utilize him so well, how does he fare elsewhere? We'll need to see more decks and data to know for sure.
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Marvel Snap | ENDLESS BUFFS!! ...is Phastos a perfect fit or a fail?? - Ігри
The auto decks recommends me Thor/ Asgard deck, which is actually really great imo. Put a bunch of 1 cost and then phastos will reduce their cost to 0, draw them all with Jane, turn 6 play could be those 0 cost cards + Odin or 0 cost cards + Hit monkey.
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised with the Auto deck.
That’s pretty interesting. I guess the theme is zoo For the month.
Hmmm your comment made me think of a Phastos Thanos deck
It looks annoying keeping your hand empty enough for the play to be worth
@@BOKOam I have been enjoying him in a Thanos Destroy deck
I think the general people have with new cards, is that people want to be game changing. Like Thena gave the Kitty deck like this whole new life, whereas here it just gives you more options.
You don't need the card, but can be good if it lines up. If you have like Forge + Brood, that's fantastic, that doesn't mean Phastos is bad, you just hit the curve dream.
He is very solid when played, and if you don't get him in time or have a better play, that's perfectly fine as well. You don't take out Magik or Okoye because you might not pull them fast enough.
Thena is a card that you absolutely want t2 or t3, if you don't, you are in much worse shape. Here it feels like you got so many great cards, that you always got something solid to play.
I tried to run Phastos in a Nimrod Deck and it’s pretty fun. Sometimes you get a 8 power Nimrod or a 3 cost Shuri and you can put a Nova down before it.
But you need to have Phastos on curve.
11:42 Regis with the first time revenge shade throw I love it screw that guy haha
I'm having a blast with Phastos in my Thanos deck at least until they give him the minimum of 1 tag. His RNG feels good in that deck because either buff is good and Sera on 4 or 5 makes things even cheaper.
It looks like he applies the effects on each card separately so I doubt he will get nerfed because of the RNG
@Commentar1000 it's not done separately it's 1 or the other. My deck only runs him 1 time and every card gets the same effect. Seriously when I can have my deck be half 5's and 6's and still dominate most decks that's a major problem that needs to be addressed. Granted the only card that counters my deck is Mobius due to my deck being a cost reduction style.
Would you reveal your deck?
@@greatjensen yeah I will post it
@greatjensen 1 cost Uatu, 2 cost Jeff, 3 cost Phastos and Gladiator, 4 cost War Machine, 5 cost Professor X, Sera, Black Bolt, Mockingbird, and Stature 6 cost Thanos and Sasquatch. It's actually 7 cards of 5 or 6 cost It's all based on cost reduction plays though.
Jane's back and badder then ever!!!
Yeah, turning 1-drops into zeros for a ridiculous turn 6 is pretty gross.
7:32 When I see the celestial emote I feel BMed 😅 so idk
I feel like he is better when you look at it from an opportunity vs sunk cost aspect and play the game of keep the opponent guessing. Only you will know what is what until it gets revealed on board. Some plays will be better and make more sense, especially if you have the Brood-Absman line. But in a game where board space is already limited or there is a Sinister London location, you're gonna get almost guaranteed return on your investment and have room for better and more unpredictable plays.
Maybe I just tend to overthink stuff, but he really screws with me when I play against him. I tend to math out my turn 6s with a couple combinations of cards I think the opponent is likely to play, but that's so much harder when I don't know whether they have extra power or enough discounts to play another card.
It feels like I play worse when I'm up against Phastos - I don't know how true that is, but it FEELS that way for 100% sure.
He works great in surfer, tribunal/iron man and Thor decks
thanks regis for sitting through the 999th deck of silver surfer for a 3 cost card comign out AND STAYING POSITIVE and just realistic af
That’s an amazing deck
Hey what should I do if I don’t have plastid? I’m running hazmat and like cage and that’s been doing well for me
Seeing some of the woes here with Phastos is making me more sure I’m saving my spotlight caches to get Arishem next week (what can I say, I’m a sucker for random)
I skipped makkari for phastos and arishem
if you’re planning on picking up arishem u need to pick up Phastos bc he’s perfect with arishem
I already made the choice to use tokens for Arishem so blew it here instead. Saving the next weeks for Copy Cat.
If you're a sucker for random, Phastos should be right up your alley! :P
@hounds556 Idk seems like unless you draw him at a decent curve he's not going to have a chance to do much. And the draw is already low with Arishem adding 12 cards to deck. I do like the idea though. 🤔
I wanted Spider-Ham but got Phatos on the first pull 😩 Saving for the new big bad now
Ngl, the first deck I tryed with Phastos is in a black panther Zola/Taskmaster. Plus I can active 2 or more time Phastos ability using Zabu, Wong or Grandmaster
29:50 if they switch Demon and Kitty, they win, fun game!
Phastos reminds me of hope summers, it's great if you pull it before 3, late it doesn't feel to great but both are good cards and good at what they do
Can they buff Adam warlock
Nerf super skrull 🤬
He has no place in any decks
He's supposed to make sure you get your combo cards but he also needs you to have the early power, it doesn't really fit into any combo deck because most of em don't have that much early power and you wont get much out of him in a deck with Early power like zoo
@@samialivand1511 Ik bro but he’s such a cool character thought they could give him a decent ability:(.
I feel they should just rework all the draw cards, since they always tell us drawing is sooo op.. 😅
@@samialivand1511 I have him waiting in a deck for Arishem. That seems like the only viable place for him.
I've been planning on getting Phastos for like two months and now that it's here I might just save my keys, haha.
I find really fascinating comparing Phastos with Ocoye, some say its a better version some say its a worse version
Because you read it at first and its like "well +2 power or -1 cost are both better than just +1 power" but is the fact that it is a 3 cost instead of a 2 cost that big? So the card would be straight up better than Ocoye if it was also a 2 cost card with 2 power? Or is it because of the uncertain of what it will roll for each card?
LMAO @ 11:28 I LAUGHED WITH YOU 😂😂😂
Is he good? no idea tried to summon him twice and got a variant and a copy of a BASE card which converted to 1000 tokens ...
How often do you *not* have a positive win/cube rate with a deck?
Is a good card if u have it at turn 3
Was looking forward to this card. Saved up 3 keys for this spotlight and ended up with every card but Phastos 😅 at least I know I’ll get him from my next key that I have to get now…
Legit in the same boat, didn’t have Corvus so ig that’s a win, also got Blob and That Ham Variant which I actually like.. despite what people are saying I’m still very excited about getting him. 17 away
@@SalemSettoyeahhh same I got Corvus for the first time which is a win… not sure if I want Phastos now after watching this video 😅 but the fact I’ve already spent 3 keys to get him means I kinda have to get him now…
I was running a surfer deck and instead of playing groot on turn 5 I played phastos and then next turn shangchi costed 3 and my opponent played devil dino and gamora in the middle so I was able to play surfer and Shang chi to win the game
What if you tried a more greedy deck with Phastos grandmaster and a lot of 4 or 5 drops to try to milk the most out of his discounts?
The Auto Deck uses that. Thor + Jane Foster + Grandmaster.
Why you don't use any tech card like Killmonger, Red Guardian or Rogue?
Is there a sub for bastian
13:13 thats not a sunshine word regis!
I am an average player so i cant say much but, i always enjoy surfer lists that play for the 6 turns.
Its where i think the deck takes the most advantage.
Been running Makari and Nakki and been enjoying it. Even if i go phastos turn 4 is fine, although i admit, that i am mostly after the buffs rather then reductions, cause i dont run Sera lol
I also lack Sebastian which is a core card for surfer decks
How did the opponent in the 1st game have a makkari come down on the same turn as a turn 4 sera. Wouldn't the makkari insinuate they drew it that turn. But also the only way they played sera was to top deck it after phastos. Why did both happen that turn?
They drew sera as their draw for turn, and then they drew the makari from the asgard, and then it ran out of their hand
the closest explanation here would be the asgard drew them the makkari and makkari triggered her effect after the asgard draw. perhaps location effects happen first even for the end of turn stuff
I feel like Phastos will fit well with Arishem. Thoughts?
Absolutely, the minus 1 cost and the plus 1 energy will let you play a lot of cards
Only reason I snatched him 🤣
why not use grand master instead of absorbing man? for cost angle ?
Better on brood specifically (4 power broodlings)
@@Kniightisa Abs man has a more natural curve
I have been using Grandmaster in a more hand buff Surfer list , it's fun when it works 😜 . Chavez , Forge , Nakia and of course Phastos , along with Wong Odin and Lad , Brood ,Shaw, Majik .
He's good but doesn't feel deck defining. You could add him into a bunch of decks that already work but if you didn't they'd still be good. I'd like to get him but I'm saving for Arishem next week because he does define a deck, don't know if it'll be good lol but the chaos will be fun
The deck I'm playing phastos in is fun and feels strong. Hes definitely a better fit than the card I switched out for him. That being said he's more bad than good in most decks.
Would it be crazy if Phatos was a 1/3 or 2/3 instead? I feel like reduced cost would be a better exchange since his buffs are random. He reminds me of Nico but she feels better cuz of cost and versatility. As he is now he’s okay
Just stick a sunspot in if your finding off curve plays happening a lot ?
wait, Ms Marvel is BM? I've been playing using her unironically all this time. I fistbump more often, but I use her too.
Man, I'm too old for this. Now I feel like a jerk.
Yeah it's been toxic for a long time. It's the wink that does it. It's belittling.
Same i used to always use here to compliment a good play, im sad people decided it's an insult
Grandmaster Phastos is my jam right now .
What could replace sebastian shaw in this deck?
I'm assume you don't have shaw then? Shaw is a staple in Silver Surfer's deck.. so it's a hard choice to replace anything.
Hazmat + luke cage
Damn, 20 power shaw 🤯
Thanks for the video and the deck.
I feel that the random nature of Phastos' effect is what hold him back the most. If he just did one or the other, it would make him much more consistent and easier to build around.
He seems like a very good cube thief
Was very excited for Phastos, but hes not feeling as fun as I had hoped. If he affected hand instead I think he’d probably be better and feel less awful outside of turn 3.
honestly with how underplayed okoye is, i can see her being taken down to a 1-cost and phastos becoming a 2 cost for an extra draw with his ability
Thank you for using base card art with infinity border 🙇
9:52 should have abs man the odin
I was wondering how about this card work with adam warlock😂
So does Sebastian Shaw’s card trigger even while he’s still in the deck?! That’s awesome!
yes "wherever this is"
Phastos can make 1 costs into zero costs that could be draw with Lady Thor
any alternative for shaw?
shaw is must for surfer to be competitive
Hazmat + luke cage combo
Currently running him in my Gilga deck along side Chavez, Forge, Okoye and Nakia.
I've noticed he does best if you can repeat him somehow, with Wong/Grandmaster/Absman.
don't mean to be a dick but you've "noticed" that doubling an effect is better than the effect on it's own??
@@KolbyNS Yes. Because his effect on it's own is not massively game changing, especially on Turn 3. The types of cards you play with him to truly take advantage of him usually mean you're using HUGE cards, so +2 power or -1 cost really aren't big deals. He needs a double up or to at least not be the only method of empowering cards to be truly effective. Otherwise he's rather unreliable. When you use Chavez, you know which card you're hitting. When you use Okoye, you know the whole deck is getting 1 effect. With Phastos you don't know which cards got which hit. That's why using it once can seem pointless while doubling it or more really makes a difference. For instance I put him on Sinister London, got 2 hits. Then put down Absman and got a third. Out popped a 1 cost/16 power Mockingbird from my deck (her cost was partially due to the cloned cards).
@@RoadWulf sure, doesn't seem that revolutionary of an "observation" i mean isn't Wong the king of doubling effects? Isn't abs man ? It's like saying i've noticed that playing wong is good for on reveals, or that using abs man after surfer or brood gets you a stronger board. let alone the fact that doubling phastos' effect (provided you have the optimal draw) will give you this buffed effect only on 2 cards... i mean it seems pretty obvious to me but hey who am i to say what you are allowed to find surprising
Me: Gets Phastos
Also me: Makes deck
Also me: Plays matches
Phastos: *Stays at the bottom of my deck 90% of matches*
It's funny that people were hyped on Phastos and he feels bad while people were down on Makkari and she's really fun
Makkari is hogwash
Not really no one was down on makkari it was just not worth picking up unless you wanted her...
Take out okoye and put in grand master for double discount possibility.
Phastos on turn 4, grand master and Magik on turn 5
I'm memeing with the greediest Phastos/Negative/Pixie/Surfer deck 😂
Ngl, I initially thought his ability gave the same buff of either -1 cost or +2 power to the whole deck, not individually. Not sure if that’s better or not anyway🤔
I think your curve would feel better if you replaced Okoye with a 1 or 2 cost that can be played later. I dont think Okoye adds enough value if you dont have her on 2 and even if you do Forge is more often the play if you have both.
Ive tried Quake and Grandmaster and both felt better than Okoye looked in this video. I also like Nico for her ability to buff Shaw/Brood or to draw additional cards Phastos has buffed. I can see cards like White Widow, Spider-Ham, even Psylocke making the curve feel better and helping the turns after Phastos feel more efficient.
Is there a replacement for Shaw?
another 3 drop. not much thinking there…
Big 3 Drop but Shaw is the best card for surfer next to Brood.
maybe gambit
Destroyer
Gladiator
Phastos pixie deck?
10:41 you could have absorbing maned the Odin
legit what I was saying out loud while watching lol
Phastos got me out here playing Crystal
Phastos fits quite well in Thanos and Arishem decks. Yes, if you don't play him on curve it hurts. The exact same as it would for all the other support cards. I don't know why people seem to expect the world out of Phastos...
Like any card game people see the absolute best case scenario and get hung up on that being the norm.
Yeah but competitively I can see why you wouldn't be excited for the card. It's why if you could gurnateee okoye on turn 2 it would be the most busted card in the game.
@user-tr1ui4fx1g He's just like Mr. Negative, Hope Summers, Elsa, Mobius, Pixie. It's just stupid people judging him so harshly for no reason.
@Khay-77 yeah I can see that. However I will probably be saving my keys for another card. Not even arishem because the other cards in that cache are not good.
@@Khay-77that's not harshly wth 😂😂😂
Silver Surfer decks always feels clunky too me too. You float so much energy because you have so many damn 3 drops I just never enjoy playing this style of deck.
But that’s why Phastos helps so much, pmay my things earlier
i always wonder why hope isn't more popular in surfer decks but i never play surfer decks so i haven't actually tried it
@@at0mlyshe doesn't really help that much aside from turn 5. You play her turn 3, play a 3 drop turn 4, two 3 drops turn 5, and two 3 drops turn 6. Overall you're still wasting energy when instead you could play a better 3 cost like shaw or brood on turn 3. Also she only helps if you have her by turn 3
i agree. next time i cook with surfer i might try to fit a couple extra 1 or 2 cost cards
@@CheeseGhosts Yea just draw Phastos by turn 3 every game *and* get the cost reduction every time simple.
He works amazing in a surfer deck
You need to play My Phastos Deck it is REALLY off the Wall.
Why is it even a question? He's insanely good
Well, no, not so far. He's actually trending towards bad, not just mediocre like I expected. He has a 49.7% win rate, -.02 cube rate on average. And that's being bolstered by stuffing him in good decks.
His best performing deck is a Surfer list with a .33 cube rate, but the same list WITHOUT him has a .63 cube rate. He's making it NOTABLY worse.
What is the opinion of the author of this channel about this card? Briefly
I beat you today regis! I was colt 45. I played prof X on your Wong lane lol
And destruction
Wait till gwenpool gets added to this😎
Why not try Phastos in a High Evo deck? If your curve gets thrown off, you'll actually be chill with it.
Feel like this might be good when arishem comes out
aren't the odds of drawing him on 3 exponentially lower with arishem??
@@KolbyNSyes.
Though technically Arishem's cards added to deck would mean Phastos' ability affects more cards, it doesn't change the number of cards you draw meaning the actual number of cards affected by Phastos that you can play doesn't change.
@@ryanryan8849 ya that is what I meant though I do see how it might be tough to get him
@@X3N43 what I'm saying is that Arishem has functionally no synergy with Phastos.
I feel like he would be a good fit with grandmaster, to get two guaranteed procs
You know what bothers me about this game? Is they show ZERO gameplay or combos of how hes "supposed" to be used. Or am i missing that? 😅 like, other games (duel links) give you hints like this works well with ___ so and so....im curious as to what theyre testing is and why they justify these cards as series 5 when theyre clearly underwhelming 😮
He needs to be a 2/2 or a 4/1 where the ability affects your hand, not your deck. Reminds me of the Grandmaster issue. The card was thought to be really strong, hence 0 power. That was obviously wrong, so it went from a 2/0 to a 2/2. This card only feels good on turn 3, extremely limiting its viability. Changing it to a 2 cost would definitely help.
rest in peace okoye in that case
@@mrmurloc6167 Not really. Running them in the same deck is pretty strong. But a Series 5 card should outperform a Series 2.
@@faceman3585it's called unbalanced
@@Nama-rz8kv Do you have the card? Have you played the card? If you are not able to play him on turn 3, he's almost useless. If played on turn 3, he is consistently a 3/5 while also discounting a card 1 energy. Out of the 20 games I played with him, I was able to play him on curve 3 times! The overwhelming majority of my games, he was either a 3/5 or a 3/3 that discounted a card. That's extremely underwhelming for a Series 5 card!
he is great in hazmat combo
2 cost would be busted
@@Rob0_ play him on 3 play wong on 4 serra on 5 and hazmat with cage or surfer and if you weaved in a magik add mystique for a turn 7 dump in the mix , deck is dead to cosmo and enchantress but otherwise just murders oponenrs generating stupid numbers or massive negative numbers for your oponent depending on if you draw cage or not
I think he’d fit better as a 2-1
Yeah having to play him on 3 doesn't seem that worth it
@@MrBigCheeeseyou think they’ll bring him down to a 2 cost? I hope
We wish 😂😂😂😂
This is a silver surfer deck with Phastos in it.
So far he is more like Pass-tos
It's not to bad on turn 5 with Grandmaster
High Evo, my friends. High Evo.
You wanna Heard my luck ?😢😢 On turn 1 KAMAR TAJ (On reveal double ) Turn 2 PROJECT PEGASUS ( PHASTOS + OKOYE + FORGE ON KAMAR TAJ ) . TURN 3 WIERDWORLD... Bro .. bro ... Really?? This game Hate me so much .. I had brood + abs + galactus + Nimrod+ shaw in deck 😢😢😢
phastos is BUSTED on my thanos deck. I´m getting great results on conquest
Using absorbing man on odin is always more power than using him on surfer.
Hrmm Grandmaster seems good here
He might be broken with Arishem ngl
If you're very lucky keep drawing him every game😂😭
Yeah, playing Phastos on turn 2 is quite the high-roll, but not going to happen much.
Idk what wong does in this deck feels like it’s to slow
Phastos buff debuff opp
I got Makkari, I skipped Phastos. Nuff said.
Phastos buffing a gladiator or galactus isn't going to be pretty
I tried him in Thanos and was equally unimpressed.. if i didn't need Corvus and Ham this week would've been a Phast skip for me.
If Phastos doesn't get a buff or find a place soon I can see it sitting proudly and collecting dust in my collection with Black Swan and Herc.
Just use grand master if that’s what you’re using absorbing man for .
Abs man is way better on curve
I think Phastos is a pretty poor fit in Surfer just because forge brood is to good.
upload a minute ago.... Noice....
yikes imagine playing tribunal onslaught and BMing
Where’s you kid I love her
Never saw someone complain so much while winning.
Yando cable Wong
Way too many counters for that Shaw deck. I don’t think phastos should he played with that deck.